YOU’RE TROUBLE Ft. EJ Marcus
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1 hour and 5 minutes
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196.2124
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Summary
On this episode of the comment section, we have EJ Marcus on the show. EJ is a stand-up comedian, YouTuber, podcaster, and podcaster. He's also the creator of the TikTok account .
Transcript
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I was on a plane recently and I was sitting in the exit row and the flight attendant came
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and was doing the spiel of, you know, are you willing and able to help or whatever, stopped
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Hey everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring
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me, your favorite, everybody knows me, who cares about me?
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Today we have the hilarious, the amazing, the talented EJ Marcus.
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I'm so happy that you're here, especially being a fan of your content.
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My sister and I are both really big fans of your content.
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My sister used to send me your videos all the time.
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I actually, that is my favorite when people are like, my family and I enjoy your stuff.
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I sort of joke that I'm like a really family friendly comedian.
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I think you're, what I love most about your content is that, and for those of you who don't
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know, why don't you know, first of all, but second of all, I love that you're, you have
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a very specific, like niche, like perspective on your skits a lot of times.
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A niche joke that nobody gets unless you get it.
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You posted a TikTok, I remember so distinctly, and my sister sent it to me, and it was like
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someone who's very clearly afraid of their own cat.
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It's just a bunch of cuts of someone being like, well, no, like, I mean, that's just like,
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And they're like, oh, these scratches, they're just, she does that.
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So often with that kind of thing, I'm just like, I worry, you know, will it find its
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You're like, if they get it, they're going to laugh.
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If they, if they've ever experienced something like this, I mean, I, it's also so related
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Like with that kind of video, I'll just like immediately get a text from my partner and
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I, you, my sister and I are actually quoting a recent one of yours where you're talking
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about your recently unemployed roommate and then they're like, oh, wet paint.
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I know that my sister and I keep quoting when you say like, can I come in?
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And you're like, oh, and then you step forward and you're like, and that's 10,000 steps.
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Well, the 10,000 steps thing I just learned about.
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Somebody, well, honestly on a different podcast that I was listening to was like, you're supposed
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How would I get anything else done if I was hitting 10,000 steps a day?
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You have to, that has to be your whole personality.
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I think with the, I saw something similar to that, but I saw on, I also saw TikTok, me
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constantly being like, I think I saw a steady once and I'm talking about a TikTok.
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I once read this really long, thick intellectual book and it's just a bunch of TikToks.
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TikToks I saw, but it was, uh, this girl talking about how she found out recently how
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much fiber you have to eat every day or fiber and protein.
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And then she was like, and I think I have to quit my job.
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Like, I don't know how I'm going to get all of that done in one day.
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The amount of protein you should be eating every single day.
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And then it's sort of like, and then what's the end goal?
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That, that kind of niche humor is like some of my favorite kind of humor.
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And then I love a joke that's so stupidly obvious.
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Like, like a, like a Joe mama joke, huge fan or like a Ligma, Segundi's trying to think
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of all the ones I always say, these nuts, I say these nuts joke, like my life depends
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So speaking of comedy, like, how did you get into comedy?
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Have you always dreamt of being like, I know you were telling me earlier, you did stand up
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So it's like, has that always been kind of your goal or just entertainment in general?
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There was no assumptions, although it would be so safe.
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I, um, I would say that I've been sort of entertaining my whole life in the way that
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You gotta get attention and you can't, you're never off, you know, like it's never, the
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No, I was like, I'm the youngest of three by kind of a lot.
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Um, which is like, it's no worries if I was mom.
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I, um, you know, I just look, I could, I wanted to break the tension wherever I could.
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So if that meant that I was sort of standing on the table, doing a little, you know, whatever
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was going to get people laughing kind of thing.
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And then, and then it's just too much encouragement.
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I think at that point, um, they thought I was chasing the high, right?
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You felt that rush and you're like, I can never not feel that ever again.
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And then, and then, yeah, just kind of stand up.
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I mean, I, and I feel like we were kind of talking about this before stand up.
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I love it and I love to do it, but also it is like one of the sickest ways that you can
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make people laugh and that it's just, you want to stage with a microphone.
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Like that's so like circus, you know what I mean?
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It's kind of like, and it's also, I feel like the energy is so different because especially
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if you go into like random comedy clubs, which is how everyone starts, like they kind of
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just start trying to work their way into sets and it's just a bunch of people just looking
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They're, they're either, they either want to just be up there with you or they want you
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Do you ever get like unsolicited when you were doing stand up a lot too?
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Do you get like, you said earlier that, you know, sometimes it's like, you know,
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there's just three men and they all want to give you jokes to put in your set.
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You know, um, I, I think I've been lucky in that I haven't been faced with like that
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many brutal, like I've been so fortunate to come up in live comedy in a time where I think
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it's becoming less male dominated, less like there's more queer people.
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But I will say the first like intro to stand up comedy class I ever took, um, there, it
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was me and my partner and then the rest of the class was just like these like sis, I would
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Um, but, um, it was like, it was kind of like, even when they weren't on stage, they were
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And on the first day we were going around saying names.
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Um, and then like, as we were going, the teacher sort of like clocked me and my partner and
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And then, um, this guy was the first to go and he was like, Hey, I don't remember his
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It's not like his, no, he, she, he's like, and we, and, and all of us and us together.
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Everyone's like, wait a minute, Adam, you're so smart.
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So, you know, like moments like those, I was kind of like, this is actually, to me, that's
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By the way, I had, um, this is like not, Oh shit.
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This is not the same thing necessarily, but I do remember when I was in college, I was
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a journalism and communications major and I had to take a bunch of column classes and
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There's just like a million fucking classes you have to take in order to graduate with the degree.
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So I had random classes with like random people.
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It wasn't always like the same core people, but I always had dudes that were like, they
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And they were like, uh, my fucking counselor said communications.
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So I had lots of dudes like that in my classes.
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I remember there was this one guy who was like super popular on my campus.
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Um, and I, I will never forget this, but I remember we were in one of my intro classes.
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I think it was like my freshman year and it was kind of a big class.
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And my teacher was like, yeah, you know, let's just go.
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Um, um, we'll go through this syllabus really quick.
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He's like, okay, so what, what do you guys, why do you guys think, uh, certain industries
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are really popular in certain geographical areas?
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Cause it was a communications, but specifically around media and how it communicates to culture
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So he was like, like, for example, the video game industry is really, really huge in Asia.
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Um, and he was saying like, there's just a huge market there.
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I mentioned this man that I'm about to talk about is white, obviously.
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No, he had one singular shaker cup and that should have told me everything.
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I feel like it gave me enough information just off that alone.
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And then he had one of those like, uh, stringers that like the nipples are out.
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So it's hard pointy and he's sitting there and he's like, yeah, uh, okay.
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So fucking, I guess like, he's literally talking like that.
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Um, I would probably say, you know, probably cause of games like fruit ninja, like those
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Probably because like they have ninjas and I'm dead serious.
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And my teacher's like, okay, so does anyone else have an answer?
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Like he just like completely didn't acknowledge it.
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And he was like, like laughing with his buddy.
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And I was like, oh, I fucking hate that guy.
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Those are my favorite kinds of guys to get in class.
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And just kind of like, I mean, the thing is, is like, I was going to say, I wonder what
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he's up to now, but it's like, he's probably super successful.
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It's like, he's probably somewhere, unfortunately making so much money.
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And you know, what's funny is you're probably right because I know for a fact he came from
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And you don't walk into, of course he came from money.
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You don't walk into a classroom like that unless you come from money.
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He's like, I just thought this is what everybody does.
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Like, have you ever, uh, cause this kind of alludes to our topic, but like, have you
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ever gotten like unsolicited advice when you were in comedy theater, whatever it was
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from men specifically, where they're kind of like, you know what you got to do?
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And they just start, you're like, I didn't ask, but I mean, it is kind of like one of
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those things that I do think it, I think it spills out of them.
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I think that they don't even, almost like a, they can't help it.
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I think it's just the way that they think to relate to people.
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Well, and, and in the comedy space, it's always fascinating because it is so rare that
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I find men funny just generally, like, and I mean that like, not even in a way where
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And I mean, and obviously you explore this in your work, but it's like, it is often well
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because they have nothing to say or they're like grasping at things to say, but I,
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or they do say has been said thousands, if not millions of times.
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And they're sort of like in their brain and I genuinely think it's like, because of their
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Like they, they do believe that they are reinventing the wheel.
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Like they're saying it and they're like, I actually am the first person to say that.
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They're like, wait, has nobody ever talked about like, why aren't more people talking
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Like, has anybody noticed that my girlfriend's kind of annoying?
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Wait, has anybody talked about this on stage before?
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Like, so it's, that element is always super fascinating.
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And I mean, I think that again, because I've been like lucky enough to be in this comedy
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spaces that I've been in, I haven't interfaced with it a ton, but I did have like, and thank
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Um, but I did, I have had like, like I did a show, um, I was doing, I'm have like a longer
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And I did, um, a version of it in New York last year.
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And I did have this guy come up to me after my show and he was being like, I really felt
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like he was speaking from the bottom of his heart.
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It was also like so classic that it was like immediate, like the show had just closed.
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And I, and out of nowhere, of course, comes in a man I've never met before in my entire
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Thinking like, maybe I don't, maybe I don't know him.
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And he's, um, and he kind of proceeds to just, he's like, he explains my show to me just in
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He's kind of like, he's like, gives you like a synopsis.
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He's like, so your show was about like coming of age and, and gender by the way.
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And then he just kind of explains to me that it's towing the line between many genres.
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Like, he just like sort of starts lecturing me as though we're in a class discussing a
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different, like, and genuinely like, what was the goal?
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Cause it was one of those moments where I sort of started to like lose myself in his
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You're like, like you see yourself looking down at yourself and you're like, right.
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While he's talking and you're like, damn, I missed the last two minutes of what he was
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And, um, basically his point was that I should, I should just think about that.
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That was kind of where he was like, and just, and just, you should know that, which I.
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Men have said like definitely like weirder and worse things to me, but it's also like
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in that moment, it just felt so incredible that like he, he was making like, like people
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were waiting for him, you know, like he was like holding up people.
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Like the point wasn't like, and you did it so well.
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And I was like, thank you so much for coming needle in the haystack, but I picked it up.
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Ironically, it's like, I enjoy it so much more when men like genuinely believe they're
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I'm like, when they, when they talk to me and they're like, yeah, it's just like, here's
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And it's very, it's also so insulting to your intelligence.
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Cause they're like, they're not going to get it.
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So they like, he's explaining your show to you and you're like, okay.
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And then he's like, yeah, anyways, you're welcome, dude.
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It's always so fun to think about like what they wanted to happen.
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Uh, yeah, I think that's, that's my favorite kind of like weird advice.
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But I would love to hear your thoughts on, I, I, that's why I was curious if you had
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Cause I feel like, especially when you do any fashion of like entertainment, when it comes
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to like either live performance, comedy, whatever it may be, there's always one that like when
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they watch you perform, they want to tell you what they think you could do better.
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And they were sitting in the audience the entire time.
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They sat down and they watched, like that was it.
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I think that I also get that version of it, which is like people and it feels really well
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Um, and I, I do, you know, not to victim blame myself, but I do think that like I, people
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Um, but I, you know, a lot of people who have never seen like a trans person in their life
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I'm like nothing, trans people have nothing more than you paying way too close attention
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They love that we, and I think we should all kind of more, we should take out our
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microscopes, um, and just kind of ask the hard questions.
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But I, um, but yeah, when people have never sort of seen anyone like me, you know, they
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think that genuine, like it happens in a lot of versions.
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I was on a plane recently and I was sitting in the exit row and the flight attendant came
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and was doing the spiel of, you know, are you willing and able to help or whatever?
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Um, and then she sort of looked at everyone in the row and then stopped at me and goes,
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And I, and I always include this detail cause it feels so critical.
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They're like, Inspector Gadget, are you 18 or older?
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Then you flash them and you're all, does this look 15?
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I feel like 14 year olds in New York are wearing really cool clothes.
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So just like moments like that where I'm like, okay, so the world is viewing me in a lot of
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Not in any of, and I wouldn't say any of them are accurate, but they are very different.
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They are really interesting to kind of take stock of, but, um, I, so, and I'm like, what
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Um, the, so I think that people give me advice in a way where they think you're like young.
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Even if they're literally at a standup show that I'm doing in a 21 plus venue, they're
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like, there's a kid on stage who needs my help and he needed my help.
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And I think I have something, I think I can help.
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Like, I think I have things to tell him that might be useful.
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And so I think the tone is kind of sometimes that where it's very condescending.
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That's like, I feel like it's similar but not like for me.
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The very few times I am in settings where there's like, it's like my family and then
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I never really do stuff like that anymore because I do this for a living now.
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But sometimes when I go, like no one really says anything to me, which I appreciate if
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it's just like a family party or something like that.
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But sometimes I'll go and there will be random men there whose wives or girlfriends are like
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And then when men come and talk to me, which is so strange because I'm like, I would rather
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you come up to me than send your man who doesn't give a fuck about me.
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But more specifically, a man who I know and can tell does not like me.
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Like, I just know they don't fuck with the content.
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But sometimes they'll come up to me and they'll be like, hey, like my girlfriend's like really
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No, it's like those videos of dogs when they like you're videoing them and then they're
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like, that's literally how I feel when they come up to me.
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And if it's a personal setting, like, like a setting where we're like both at a party or
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something, sometimes they'll literally sit with me and they'll be like, yeah, you know,
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If it's a man and they say it in that tone and I'm like, oh yeah.
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And then they're like, oh, you know, I don't really watch social media like that.
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If you don't want to tell me to my face, that's cool.
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You can actually just keep doing your thing and I'll do my thing and we'll ignore each
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That's always like most marginalized people would prefer that you just ignore them.
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It's like, and I, I've joked about this with my mom too, but I'm like, sometimes when
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someone will come up to me and I could tell, like you said, there are good intentions there,
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but there's also a very clear ignorance that I can see too, to which I'm like, I'm not
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going to get mad at you, but also I don't want to waste time talking to you.
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It's like you just doing like giving me unsolicited advice or like talking about shit like that
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And I don't want to have to disagree with you here.
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Trying to like start sort of an intellectual debate.
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They're like, well, I mean, let's have a discussion about it.
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I tell people that too when they're like, oh, why don't you debate people?
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I say this with all the love in my heart, but like my partner was a nationally ranking
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But like, there's something so crazy about that to me that people like to debate.
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I, my body's like firing off signals that I don't even, you know, I'm like sweat dripping
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Like, I'm like, I'm like crying a little bit, you know, like it's a really intense moment
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My sister, she makes the funniest like quips about anyone trying to debate her about
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Like if someone, if she says something and someone's like, no, I think it's this.
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Like if they get intense like that, she goes, oh, I don't care.
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That's why, that's how I feel about like the debate shit.
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I have nothing else on the, on the agenda, but that.
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The debate thing is so hard because a lot of people are really, really good at talking.
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They're so good at talking and I just like, I just don't care.
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And they're quick and they've got the facts and it's really, it's really hard.
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I know Pisces men get a bad rap, but my dad's a Pisces.
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I will say like, since honestly transitioning is the first that I've heard about Pisces men
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getting a bad rap, which is sort of understandable as that now I am one.
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Which I really appreciate because I mean, first of all, Pisces, you know, we're just feeling
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I think that's why from my understanding of it is like Pisces men are, are almost too
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emotionally in tune to a point where they can be manipulative.
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Like they have too much information about emotions and how they work with women, especially.
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Pisces men, I see how they could be totally problematic.
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I was going to say as a Virgo, because I'm a Virgo, I'm a huge know-it-all.
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Like that's part of me being a Virgo, but also just like me as a person, unfortunately.
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So when I was a kid, I used to like get really upset about like being wrong.
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As I got older, I was kind of like, hey, who gives a fuck?
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Like I have way too many things going on up here to care that much about that.
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Like about things that don't matter, like debating about things that don't matter or debating
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people who are committed to misunderstanding you and trying to change their mind.
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What's the, there's a saying, you mobilize comrades and you forget about the other people
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Because you're going to know if someone wants, if you're going to have a productive conversation
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Like, I mean, for me personally, and maybe this is related to me being a Pisces, like, I
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feel like if I'm going to have a productive conversation with someone about something important,
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it's going to have to be like the tenderest environment in the world.
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It's going to have to be like, they're complimenting me every other sentence.
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I'm like, oh, you know, oh, there's a loud noise, you know, that kind of thing.
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It's very, so that's basically, I think my stance on like politics and debate.
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A little bit more physical touch in a nice, calm way.
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I think it's like, I've actually seen that before with like relationship, like therapists.
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They've talked about when you're arguing, if you both sit down or hold hands, it immediately
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I feel like, like you said, it's like the safe environment thing is very true, especially
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if you want to have an actual honest conversation.
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But when you're talking to someone who just wants to wait till you're done talking so they
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That's why my sister's attitude of like, oh, I don't care.
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Like you say that to any man, like, I don't give a fuck.
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They're like, well, you're supposed to give a fuck because then I have to give a fuck.
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And that's why sometimes when I say that, they'll say things like, oh, it's because you're afraid.
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I was like, you do scare me in other ways, but like, I'm just like, I don't give a shit
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I think I know peer pressure is a thing that happens.
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I don't succumb to peer pressure literally ever because no one's ever going to tell me
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So if someone's like, oh, it's because you're a chicken.
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I'm always like, no, I'm really not going to do it.
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Nothing's going to make me not do it more than that.
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Like people trying to like, I don't know, like strong arm you or bully you and stuff.
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I'm not taking anything from this conversation.
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Yeah, but I, but I love you and I believe in you.
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So that's actually a good transition into our topic today.
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Cause we're going to be talking about why do horrible men online think they can give unsolicited relationship advice?
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And EJ has a video where he's like, the prompt is your friend who's never once been rejected giving flirting advice.
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You got to look at them first and then that's it.
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Brett Neustrom was on the show and he posted a video recently where he was talking about how like people are always like, oh, you can't be with anyone until you love yourself.
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I honestly, how long have you been with your partner?
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I joke about, um, like at the start of COVID, my boyfriend and I both got COVID even though
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I never fucking left my house and we still got it.
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And that was when isolation was like fucking 19, 20 days.
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Girl, you want to test the strength of your relationship?
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And I was like, sometimes I was like, I'm, I need to go somewhere.
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And I would go in the bathroom, just sit in the tub, fully clothed, just sitting there
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Just to get, I mean, just physically get out of my face.
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I was like, it's cause we're living in a shoe box.
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Like we were like easily going to kill each other at some point or another.
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The boundaries that kind of break down in moments like that.
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They're just, they're not even saying anything.
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But even like, you know, we've been in relationships for a while now.
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Like, I don't ever give advice about that unless someone asked me.
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And even then I'm always like, it, it's very specific to the person.
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I can feel myself losing like the thread of what I was about to say while I'm saying it.
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Like, I'm like, oh, that's so fun because that means that he thought about you enough to pick the restaurant.
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You know, and I'm like, what am I, what am I saying?
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My mind's like very like, especially if there's someone who dates men, I'm always like, I mean, break up with them.
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But if you're not willing to do that, maybe we can try something else.
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I always find myself like, like when my friend's like dating a new guy, I'm like, I have to resist actively being like, and what about him is hot to you?
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Some people are physical and some people are more of a mental.
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Well, because most, I feel like most people who date men, especially if you're cisgendered and heterosexual.
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If you're, if you're a woman who's like dating men who are cis and a lot of times you're better than them.
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So that's just where my fallback is always like, we'll break up with them.
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I'm like, it sounds like he is boring and not as fun as you.
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That's a huge thing for me too, is being funny.
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Isn't that like, I'm always like, I can't carry this loan for the two of us.
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I'm exhausted from making people crack up all day.
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So we're going to watch some TikToks that are having to do with men who are giving horrible
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In this video, a man's wearing a white t-shirt, a suit jacket, and he's sitting in a chair
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Uh, and he's talking to the camera and he says, the number one flirty thing you can say
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And he teaches this to men in his coaching program.
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When you start flirting with a woman, look her in the eyes and say,
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Does the coaching program have follow-ups after?
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Like maybe if she gets mad, this is what she does.
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You say it like that, but like in a way that's like, you're trouble.
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You have to have a deep darkness in your soul to like say that in a way that he's kind
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Like I have to say like you're trouble because it's because I know that what he's talking
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about is this sort of, you know, man who's got like, like he thinks he is so sexy.
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Like he actually, he thinks about himself very sexually.
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Like he's like, oh God, this is so sexy of me to say.
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I'm like, I'm like flustered by myself and my body.
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And it's like, ah, and then he's the only one reacting.
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Everyone else is like, he's like, stay away from him.
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I was, um, just talking about this the other day about the sexy part.
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But men who are like, look at me being sexy.
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There's nothing that makes my butthole go further into my body.
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And I don't mean before everyone gets like, and why aren't men allowed to feel that?
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I'm talking about men who are like, I look so good right now.
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And they like need to show other people and they need to be acknowledged about how sexy
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It's the same thing about male strip clubs.
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I will never go back to another one ever again.
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And men like actively like grinding and feeling sexy and then like trying to talk to you at
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I've never been more overstimulated and upset in my life.
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Cause it's, it's a very different, like to when a man is demanding kind of a response
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But when he's kind of making it everybody else's problem, it's so different.
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Like compared to like when a woman is like feeling good and comfortable in her skin.
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Like, I'm like, yeah, you, I don't, I can't even actually think of an example of that
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happening or making it everyone else's problem.
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Well, and a perfect example of that too, is like when women are feeling themselves, like
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And you're like, you look so cute today or something.
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Like they're like shocked to hear it when men are doing that.
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And like, you should make it everyone's problem.
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It's almost like someone who tells a joke and then looks around and waits like that.
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That's a very different, different journey to walk.
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This one says, I've used, oh my God, this comment.
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First of all, like when it's working, what is happening?
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I joked about this on my podcast with my sister, but we talked about how like, I'll tell the
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story here because I haven't told it here, but one of my friends told me she went and
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saw that movie, Anyone But You, whatever the fuck, the Sydney Sweeney movie.
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And it will never grace mine personally, but it's okay.
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But she told me she was watching the movie and she said there was a couple behind her
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And then she said that when they have like that first scene where they're like about
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The guy behind her goes, oh, we're going to see some tits out loud, like to his date.
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To which I'm, I have so many questions already.
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And then she said, she said she couldn't pay attention to the movie because she was only
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listening to that guy after that, obviously.
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And then she said past that, like her, you did in fact see her tits.
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So in the show with my sister, yeah, you're like, ah, ah, right.
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Like, and in the, in the episode with my sister, we were laughing because I was telling
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her like, if you get like audibly excited at the thought of seeing titties, maybe you
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Like maybe you shouldn't be around other people.
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Like, I feel like you're terrorizing the community.
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You need to work through stuff in private, in private, in a padded cell, probably.
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And so I was like, you need to be locked away somewhere far from the rest of us, wherever
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they, wherever the fuck they put black Adam.
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I don't know if anybody saw that with me, but there was a part where like they lock him
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up in this underwater prison and they literally submerge him in water and they put a little
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thing on him so he can still breathe and stay alive.
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But he is literally like in a catatonic state and he's a thousand leagues under the sea.
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And that includes men who say, you seem like a good girl.
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Cause that one, it's sort of the first one where you're like, that's a little threatening,
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but it's like, this one is literally, that's a threat.
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He's like, get out of my sight or bad stuff is going to happen.
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This next one says that was my go-to like 10 years ago.
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You just better have something good to say when you do get their attention.
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Because every time I say that they're confused.
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He's like, so are there any tips for just like talking as though she's also a person?
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I'm like, okay, well clearly this is introductory steps.
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I bought all the books you told me to buy and there's nothing about her.
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I just figured maybe it would get me dates, but, um, no worries.
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Have yet to see any results, but, uh, patiently waiting.
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They should have like reviews like they do on Amazon or something.
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My favorite kind of Yelp reviews are when they're like, I would give this zero stars if that was an option.
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Cause whatever it's coming next is going to be on me.
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They should have that for like specifically almost like rate my professor, but specifically for like men who give dating advice, like dating coaches.
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They're like, this worked for me because, but most times it'll be like, I don't know.
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I spent thousands of dollars and on now I'm in prison.
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Which like, I, you know, I guess back to square one, but I'm just like a little confused.
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And this did not help me as much as I thought it was going to, I've actually, I've actually met one dude in my entire life that actively bought like dating coach books.
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Um, this was my very first interaction with him.
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And it was a man that like, I met through my boyfriend.
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Like they worked in this similar environment and he just happened to be at something we went to anyways.
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He talked to me and he said, I don't think we've ever met before.
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We've met at least five times up until that point.
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I was like, I don't know why you're negging me as if I'm not in a relationship.
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So like it wouldn't work on me if I was single.
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And honestly, it would only work on me if I had no eyes.
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Like that's the only way it would work probably.
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And he was like, oh, OK, well, I forget your name.
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And he was like, oh, Drew, like that's like a boy's name.
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We're like when I tell them my name, they try to think of the first Drew that they know.
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I don't know why that's the guy, but like, wait, it's so genius.
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And then sometimes I'll sometimes if they're like a man's man, I'll be like, oh, yeah, like Drew Brees.
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I was like, do you need me to be here while you do this?
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Do you mind if I turn my back while you do this?
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He's like, you're different over and over again.
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And then as soon as I left that interaction, I was like, I don't ever want to hang out with that guy ever again.
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I mean, it's sort of like I, I guess if I was giving advice to someone in this situation.
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I would say I would I would let that question sort of linger and I would sit with myself and really ask myself, what do I mean?
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Honestly, I would just like genuinely like I think most men should do that.
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And then and if you do mean something sort of flirtatious or sexual, I would just sort of ask, like, why do you feel into why do you?
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Because if they've made it this far into this podcast, you know, they might really be looking for something.
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I would like let it kind of like wash over you and awaken whatever awakens inside you.
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Which is so funny because that's exactly what I said.
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If someone like me says something like that, then I would say I said, what's your name?
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I was like, it's even like when Caleb was on the show, he was like, you really just need
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to like get a hobby or like an interest, like take an interest and like listen and you will
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If you just ask normal bitch questions, like I promise it will probably go somewhere.
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It's more so really about your heart because I'm like in my mind, I'm like, OK, like genuinely
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like sometimes I think if you're like actually feeling socially awkward in a situation, I
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think like sometimes it can be helpful to like have like, oh, like what's something cool
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But this is a dangerous piece of advice to give to men because that can quickly turn into
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sort of like lecturing and being weird about it.
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But like if you do have like a heart that is good and you offer like, oh, you know,
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There's a lot of really interesting facts about birds.
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Like if you have like a fact like that where you're like, I learned this.
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And then that actually like if you're doing that with the purest of intentions.
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It could lead somewhere, you know, you might seem a little weird, but like you have something
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Besides like forcing it on her to be like, I made a weird comment to you.
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So like you go ahead and take the reins from there.
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But this is also an example of like sort of circling back.
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You know, I do give like horrifying dating advice because I'm so rusty.
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So I'm sure that like you're not wrong in the sense of like what you said earlier,
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which is like if you talk to them like they're a normal human being.
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Like if you just find that in your soul, kind of.
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And even if it doesn't, most women will be polite to you regardless.
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They'll have the conversation even if they aren't like attracted to you or don't want
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You could be the weirdest bitch in the world.
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And if you strike up a conversation with a girl, she's going to find it endearing if you're
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He came up to me, started talking to me about fucking birds or some shit.
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And if they are, then that's not the person for you.
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Like he seemed nervous and he was talking to me about birds.
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And then like, and then I started talking to him and we exchanged phone numbers.
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I've said so much, so many times I'm like straight men like that, like they are so like, well,
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first of all, entitled to women, obviously, but they also like over complicate shit.
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It's like you make it so much more complicated than it actually is.
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If you just talk to her like a normal person and get a favorite song or band, like I promise.
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Just have a fulfilling life of your own that someone would maybe be compelled to join in
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Because that's also key is like you have to bring something to the table, right?
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And I also feel like, but it's also hard because then, you know, if, if we're sort of toying
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with the idea of entitlement, like if you, you can't expect that every woman is going
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to even have like any, I, even a semblance of wanting to be with you, which is hard, a
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hard first step because then it just like, then you have to want to make friends.
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Which I also think a lot of men are like not really interested in doing.
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Like I've talked about that before where I'm like, some men are like, women are just so
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high maintenance these days and blah, blah, blah.
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And it's like the, the high maintenance part is like, just like, don't be mean to me.
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And I was like, the reason why that's like such an impossible idea to conceive for them
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is literally because they would have to like be nice to women.
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Like, it's like, I want to be able to like, just like tell you like.
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Like they want to be able to do that shit.
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And that's just like, not how it works anymore.
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So they're like, what do you fucking mean?
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And then I just metaphorically get to take her back to my cave.
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You're like, has anyone ever thought about the fact that my girlfriend's annoying?
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And that's, it sort of comes, it's a beautiful, they get on stage, they've got a microphone,
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But you've, like, you've dabbled in, I feel like, a lot of different forms of comedy.
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Um, so, like, for, I know your journey is kind of, like, uh, still being written, like
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But you, obviously, you've developed, um, a platform because people find you so fucking
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So what's your, what would you say is, like, a really great piece of advice you want to
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give people who are pursuing maybe different avenues of entertainment?
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Especially if they're in LA and, like, pursuing it actively.
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You know, I really feel like, because honestly, and, you know, maybe this is annoying to say,
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but I, for me, the social media thing did kind of feel like it happened on accident.
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I feel like someone gave me a phone on accident and I, you know.
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Like, I feel like that's, that's the funniest thing about having these, like, sort of platforms
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suddenly is you're like, you're like, oh, who let me do this?
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Um, but I feel like, so, but I think that the reason why that didn't, like, fizzle out
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or whatever is I think that, like, if you can find something that feels generative to you,
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like, on your own, like, I have always been obsessed with people, like, I have always
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loved, like, you know, sitting in, like, a public park or, like, a coffee shop or something
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and, like, listening to two people having a conversation.
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And being like, oh, my God, like, she works at a museum and she does not like her new
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Like, I'm like, you know, like, I'm like, it's people just talking about their lives in
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Which is why you're a good writer, because you're very observant.
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And so, like, that's why I think it just feels, like, that feels so exciting to me.
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And I feel like the hardest thing is when people know that maybe they want to do comedy or
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they want to act or something like that, but they just, like, can't figure out what's
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And that doesn't mean that there's, like, not something exciting about it, but I think
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it's just, like, it has to come from a place of, like.
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And so, that's why, that's why I'm saying, like, your writing is so brilliant because
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you talk about things that are so specific, but they're so relatable, like, applicable to
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Which I think makes really great comedians, whether you're on TV, stand-up, whatever it may be,
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Like, everyone I've met that I genuinely find so hilarious, yourself included, have
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a very specific lens that they've just observed over time.
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Like, it's like, and then people can relate to it, so they laugh about it, and they can,
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like, love it and share it and all that stuff because they can relate, which I think is great.
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Well, I feel like it's so true of what you do as well.
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Like, not to, you know, men are horrible, and that's my thread line.
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Well, it's, you know, men are horrible, but also, like, you are just really, really observant
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with it in a way that's, like, it's, you're very intentional.
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And it's, like, amazing how, like, you do have, like, a new take on it with every single
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Like, that's why it's, like, I'm watching your videos.
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And it's not, like, oh, she's saying the same thing over and over again.
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I'm, like, I'm, like, oh, my God, that's crazy.
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Like, it's so, so I feel like it's very much coming from that place of, like, yeah,
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if you think something is interesting and funny, other people are probably going to.
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But that's why I love your content so fucking much.
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Thank you so much to EJ for coming on this episode of the comment section.
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You can follow me on, like, all the social medias.
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My name on the ones that I do have is EJ Having Fun.
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Thank you all so much for watching this episode of the comment section.
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Please make sure y'all go follow EJ on literally everything.
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I can't wait to see all the wonderful, amazing things you do.
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Thank you all so much for watching this episode of the comment section.
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Don't forget the comment section episodes come out every Wednesday.
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You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, and the video lives for free exclusively on Spotify.
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Please stop asking me where the video lives, bitch.
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I love you so much, but please don't ask me that question anymore.
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I love you so much, and I'll see you next week.
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Make sure y'all go follow him, and I'll see you on the next episode.