Alberta Independence Rally Recap ｜ A Critical Compass Clip
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In this episode, we talk about the recent rally for Alberta Independence at the Alberta legislature in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. We cover what we saw, heard, and saw on both sides of the Alberta independence movement.
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yeah just to kind of fill everyone in who who may not be aware so in Edmonton on
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geez what day was it was it uh was it the first weekend of May um right after the election yeah
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it would have been uh the third yeah yeah uh there was a rally for Alberta independence at
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the Alberta legislature and uh yeah we we went we took uh we took some photos and some uh we took
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some video you guys may have seen the video we posted a couple weeks ago of uh just some
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clips of the the speakers we were seeing on both sides and um yeah I don't know James what did you
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think what did you like what was your what were your overall thoughts this is kind of the first
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time we're like actually debriefing it so yeah it was great to get some footage and great to get some
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interactions and comments uh felt it wasn't a bad turnout uh for something that wasn't planned
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very far ahead ahead of time it was kind of maybe just a casual mention on social media
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a few days before and dovetails from the election itself and kind of the distaste of
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carny winning Alberta independence is nothing new we've had you can go back to the early 1900s
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even to see some historic examples of this movement still having the same grievances that we see today
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um but I I feel like this is a good peek into some of the support and some of the momentum that
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is growing and we'll likely see more of these rallies but with larger and more kind of uh more momentum
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each time that's what I that's what I think yeah I think so I think so so uh so this first photo is
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holding a sign uh Alberta USA for 51st state our our only choice for prosperity uh this was uh I would
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say probably um this would be probably a minority view uh of most of those in attendance or at least
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uh uh we didn't see a whole lot of this we saw some signs one one flag one American flag yeah and
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then I think I've got a photo of this uh somewhere else down the line here of uh there was a couple
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holding a sign I think something like like country or 51st like first or 51st something like that so
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so the the tricky thing about this is any 51st state messaging is not actually going to help
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partially because of on the outside they think it's just a instant switch and now you're part of the
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states and I from my understanding the United States has queer like they have clear stipulations
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on what a territory needs to be before they even get into full talks about statehood right um and
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so Alberta would have to go through a successful referendum with a clear question on independence
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yeah that would have to be sorted out and then they would have to gauge public support for another
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referendum on statehood in conjunction with conversations um so I I feel like the idea behind it is
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they have freedom they have a robust constitution they they're not going down the same path as Canada
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in some ways and people are very excited about that but from the outside it doesn't seem like it's
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it's not helping from from the optic standpoint yeah yeah I think so I think so and actually
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so I think this goes right from so our next photo here basically from one one extreme to the other
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excuse me maybe not extreme but this was a this is a nice lady she smiled at us most people yelled
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at us but this lady was smiling um we see uh we see a very different side this is actually
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about uh uh pretty much exactly 180 degrees from from where I took the the previous photo so you
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can kind of get a an idea of the the difference of uh uh color palette maybe a lot less uh a lot less
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red white and blue and a lot more uh rainbow and and orange um of course a woman signed here saying
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my grandkids will know I was not silent so this was a sentiment that we saw a lot of James and I I don't
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know what your uh you know what your thoughts might be on this but my immediate thought I think we kind
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of had the same idea anyway was that like this seems a little bit you know if you're gonna say
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that the idea of Alberta independence is like uh you know such a far-flung you know long-term idea
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well this seems like an even more like why are we worried about this right now when wouldn't it be in
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in the indigenous groups best interest to just kind of see how it plays out and see if they can
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if they're concerned about their treaties and their lands well in the first place their their treaties are
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with the crown they're not even with the federal government anyway and wouldn't you know considering
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their you know decades long history of of being at odds with the federal government about you know
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their lack of uh you know lack of services lack of uh support lack of consideration um I just don't
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really buy the like sudden surge of patriotism and I would wonder why their initial instinct wouldn't be
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uh well let's just see how this plays out and let's see if we can actually renegotiate better treaties
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with a uh you know a smaller nation that would be more able to directly address our exact concerns I
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I don't know does that does that kind of ring true at all to you yeah like I it is an opportunity
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so that's one way of looking at it but um and and part of me thought the same thing like why wouldn't
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if they like why wouldn't they take this opportunity to negotiate a better deal if they have such hatred
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towards Ottawa and everything that has led to them being in this position and broken promises and they
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don't feel like they got a good deal but if we take a step back and we observe what the left has done
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the left has co-opted the indigenous movement yeah made it part of them and with that by extension
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the conservatives are a threat to the indigenous either indigenous rights or indigenous sovereignty
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even if there's no solid evidence or logic behind that just by proximity and by opposition I feel like
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people automatically assume that independence which is supported higher like more more of the
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supporters are conservative so it leans conservative would inherently be harmful to indigenous rights
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right yeah that's the line of thinking that I think many I suppose many might fall into because you see
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the pride flag there we saw yeah a lot of socialist messaging yeah um and the the the the irony behind
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this is you see like well what is a what is more socialist than a universal basic income or yeah and what we've seen
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is like well in reservations where they're given this money they haven't even in some cases there's been
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corruption that's prevented that money from being properly utilized yeah so this experiment and socialism
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hasn't even yeah hasn't even played out yeah yeah well there's more of that to come um we are we are now have the
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the we now have the benefit of seeing a wonderful shot of james himself taking some beautiful very steady
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video on my iphone can't go wrong with a uh with a gimbal and this kind of stuff yeah that's right
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yeah and then in the background here we see some alberta flags we see some uh that uh i'm not sure what it was
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on that flag but uh but certainly lots of alberta flags on this uh this side of the blue bit of red
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lots of blue and red yeah yeah here's uh here's another shot of the i guess you i don't know i
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guess you'd call them counter protesters um i'm not sure who this individual represented on the flag
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is but it's very obviously a an indigenous message on the canadian flag so some you know some display
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that it's leaning into the thought that canada is like the indigenous is canada they are canada
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sure yeah um which now symbolism and potentially trying to reclaim sure like well we don't want
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to leave canada because we are canada and it's these other people that don't belong and they're
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like trying to take it back in a sense yeah and actually this uh this next photo here you can see
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some some very very clear messaging so uh this lady on the left she was doing uh some interviews with
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uh with a couple uh news outlets that were there um i i don't actually know what the sign means
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because this is sort of like what we were talking about she definitely seemed to be against the uh
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the protest but this is actually what we were just talking about like yeah let's let's do a treaty
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with alberta um this woman saying you are on treaty land i'm not sure what the bottom of that sign
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said but just another you know indigenous message i gotta say like really nice colors here
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they really popped like i i didn't have to do anything to these photos man like this is just
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you got to give it to them for for just look how fun all these designs are it was uh some good
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lighting nice sunny day great great colors it was yeah and and i think that's the point that's the point
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of the messaging here's another one of you coming up uh getting some good shots and of that the
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previous lady with uh with that that um symbolic flag there uh this this was kind of a cool shot i
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thought um i guess i couldn't really pin down what this guy you know this is some interpretation
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there's some interpretation here national citizens listen learn understand and and i don't know like
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i don't you know mean to cast judgment or anything he kind of looked like a homeless man uh you know i
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don't know could just be just be like a kind of a hippie older guy but like do you know anything
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about this uh like just even this term in this context of national citizens like is that a term
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people are using for this movement or i don't i don't know if it has any specific like i haven't seen
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it come up in any other discussions so i don't know what that means um yeah like it's got kind of the
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stripes on the shirt i i just feel like this guy has seen some shit and he's like i'm done i'm done
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yeah yeah now's the time for change so that that's the sense i'm getting yeah no doubt it's a good
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just whatever it is it kind of seemed like but listen learn understand that's that's a it's opening
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a branch to to others i'm sure if a counter protester went up to i'm sure he'd have a great
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conversation with them yeah yeah we didn't bring we didn't um really know what this would be like
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but uh next time one of these happens we'll be sure to bring our our audio recording equipment
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too so here's another i guess i got a lot of shots uh at this precise moment of in time of uh the
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counter protesters so here's here's a couple signs um there's maybe like 30 or 40 counter
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protesters to the one or two thousand people there yeah i think i think most people figured
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there was between 1500 and 2000 um protesters and yeah that sounds seems about right maybe
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between 30 and 50 counter protesters um uh so yeah here's we have a sign this land was given to us
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to look after uh not on indigenous lands i don't know this is an indigenous word
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this one is kind of funny i like the why separate just leave and i kept every time i saw it i just kept
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being like yeah that's what we're trying to do they they mean move away and physically move away
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um so there is this thought and this comes up in conversations well that people will say well you
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alberta independence can't happen because the bands will veto it the indigenous have a veto
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veto and that's not that's not a thing there's no right that's not a constitutionally there's no
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mechanism for a veto on a clear majority they don't have that extra power uh then you can argue about
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well what does a seated land means then there's still um arguments on the interpretation of they
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thought they were sharing the land but they didn't fully understand what they're signing
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right but that's also a convenient excuse if you have a bad deal you just say well i didn't
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understand a deal yeah yeah it's hard to say it's yeah i don't know that's a whole episode unto itself
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but thankfully a um i think what what may be the best photo i took in the whole afternoon
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is coming up you know which one i'm talking about
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the uh there there's two good ones but we'll see if they everything is the same thing
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so yeah we said there was some socialist slash marxist people there that yeah yeah we got a whole
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lot of uh interesting messaging here we got some tax rich we got fuck fossil fuels
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uh oh man bl blm yeah you got some blm right there yeah more blm here every child matters do you
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think we are the 99 do you think he supported uh vax mandates oh certainly absolutely you would
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have to imagine the like the the rage against the machine types are now raging for the machine
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that's right yeah so this guy was funny uh this in a in a complete contrast then we got this guy
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so this is in the um all the photos of the counter protesters they were sort of at the i guess it would
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be the uh east side of the legislature and then the kind of the central central south area was was all
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the all the um protesters so yeah speaker on the on the steps of the legislator that's right yeah and
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you can see them right back here yeah yeah so this is kind of a kind of a neat little very very
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burda style brand isn't it um okay here's that sign coming up that i was thinking about so alberta
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first or 51st so that's kind of a neat sign uh yeah i mean that that seemed to be a lot of the
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sentiment was was either like if if not independence then 51st state or if not 51st state then at least
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independence you know it seems to be whatever the case is we just can't keep doing whatever it is
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we're doing with the eastern part of the of the country i mean do you kind of get that that feeling
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yeah they they need some way out from a uh abusive relationship yeah yeah and i mean i don't think
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like you know when you look at we might have to do an episode on this we might have to do a deep dive on
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um you were talking to me the other day of like kind of the most recent um uh global uh you know
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world politics example of a um creation of new nations and uh we can look to um the czech republic
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in the in the mid 90s or early mid 90s uh you know the czech republic obviously um splitting into
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several but rather czech slovakia splitting into several different nations czech republic uh czechia
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now uh bosnia uh croatia um montenegro i think you know lots of different nations so we we have that
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as a very recent example of what happens when a when a nation you know believes that it has
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irreconcilable differences with the the various uh you know people in its confederation so you know i
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i i just don't i don't really feel like i've always sort of been uh you know obviously identified as a
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canadian but it's it's pretty hard to argue nowadays anyway that it seems like albertans
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certainly have much more in common with several uh like i can think of several u.s states that are
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more similar like the type of people in the in the province of alberta are much more similar
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to many different states than maybe even to most other provinces yeah it's also depends what you
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what you define as canadian because for a while that was a kind of a shape-shifting definition that
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didn't really it wasn't solidified and you could see that through comments like canada being a post
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national state yeah and um the fact that immigrants did not need there was no pressure to assimilate they
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did not need to assimilate so if those two things exist then you're like well if you're if albertans
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are being shamed for wanting to leave they're saying well you're not a real canadian like first of all
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what is a real canadian yeah but if you look at some of the values if we the canadian that
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the canadian spirit that we maybe we like look back 50 years is living through alberta more than it is
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through any urban town in like urban mega center in toronto or mississauga or ottawa even so
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it feels like the independence movies is trying to preserve the canadian identity in essence
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protecting that by leaving you're like well we're taking the essence of what we believe
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what we're it's just manifesting in an alberta way um yeah but i i feel like there's some grieving
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towards we've lost the canada that we thought we had and they don't want to be if being can being
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canadian means all these other things if it means a global estate then like well why be canadian then
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yeah yeah it's true i mean that's that's a that's an interesting way to put it where it's
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yeah you know sometimes in order to preserve your identity you might have to
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sequester it right yeah is it is the identity just the is it just the brand colors like what is
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what's the underpinning of that identity like if you're flying different colors like it's not just
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a facelift like what's at the what's at the core yeah yeah that's right that's right
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um yeah interesting okay we got another sign here we got uh we got an f trudeau and a trudeau 2.0
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that was pretty fun um i oh sorry don't know what happened there um i'm trying i was trying to zoom
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in on this guy's shirt but it's uh something about when the government's boot is on your throat
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something something something so yeah this guy's this guy's not messing around wearing a wearing a
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uh i think a moose jaw warriors hat i think that's what that is or no maybe that's red deer rebels
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i don't know anyway tough guy now this is a fun one this is an interesting play you remember this lady
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all right i remember seeing but i don't know if we uh i don't know we don't think we chatted with her
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do we yeah no no i don't think so but so what we have is a lady wearing a essentially a cape here of
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of a flag made half alberta flag and half usa flag and actually i just noticed this guy's hat
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alberta usa so there's another there's your three people the other thing to remember is uh
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if you go down to the south part of alberta there are a lot of americans and canadians that
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well there you have family members just 20 kilometers south of the border like there's a bit of overlap
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it's not like the border happens and you just like cut off ties to the family like people
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yeah that's right it it gets a little bit fuzzy there yeah for sure for sure as it would with
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they maybe they may be even like dual citizens even so true yeah true uh yeah we did talk with a
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with a a couple and two or three people uh who were were up from uh red deer so yeah i wouldn't i
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wouldn't be surprised if people came up from from the southern uh parts of the province too even more
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south this is that lady again um with the treaty alberta sign i'm not sure we we tried to figure out
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what this uh radio or tv or radio station is i don't think we ever did but maybe if anyone can
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recognize that logo um we um should i show the mark car anyone yeah i'll show the mark car anyone
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we don't have to dwell on it this was kind of a kind of a fun sign so i don't know i don't know
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about the claim but uh but uh certainly a certainly a passionate woman uh this one was i just i included
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this one in because it just was funny to me because so this is a city city news uh journalist i i didn't
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actually recall her like interviewing anyone that's her cameraman there um i don't really recall her
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interviewing anyone you know we were there for probably around two hours or so and they were
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just kind of like meandering around the outside um i don't do you recall her doing anything of note or
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just kind of being there um the thing is if they did like a one minute spot uh we could have missed
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that so that's true that's true they may have taken all their b-roll that they needed um because i saw
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some of the overviews like they got different shots of it um like the they were pretty faithful
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to the crowd sizes on some of their coverage so they didn't okay that's good they weren't
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super deceptive but it was also like a couple shots to the crowd a couple things and then it was just
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all about the like a lot of the counter protesters sure yeah yeah so this was um another another shot
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just of a guy this was ctv i just took these ones in because these were the only two i don't know if
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we saw maybe we did see um cbc but i didn't see a any signage or anything so city city news or or
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whatever that was yeah city news and uh ctv there's pants again back there you recall you oh i guess he
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was the guy holding the uh the gigantic pride flag he has a lot of pride he has a lot of messages he
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wants to get across um this guy was uh was fun so here's a uh again i i'm not in any position to
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you know make this call either way but this is it was a very white looking gentleman who was very
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very active on the uh in the indigenous uh portion of the uh the debate talking about uh he was mo if
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you recall james he was uh uh mostly uh yelling about how uh like daniel smith would would not be
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trusted if she would uh if she would agree to separation or something like that yeah it's uh
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arguing about anything productive and or like it's not if they actually understood
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what people were there and like the referendum process or the clarity act they would have
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it would be different things they would actually be yelling about so i feel like there's a lack of
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understanding coming from the side yeah that's right that's right uh we had a couple ladies here
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who were uh fairly um boisterous let's say uh i think we captured one of these ladies in the
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overview video that we had i think that's right she was had some very harsh things to say about the
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white man indeed indeed yeah that was uh yeah that was something that was certainly something
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um yeah fun people so here's another sign this was a uh this one was is an interesting because at least
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it attempts to address some point so alberta separatism is uh a waste of money unrealistic
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illegal and a distraction and so and you can kind of see here this little this is i i just can kind
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of noticing this this like fold it up portion point points for uh a realistic page fold that's
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the proportions are actually pretty good yeah the shadow is nice yeah that's good so we got ahs
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scandal coal mining ucp i think that's probably gonna say corruption this is actually a a good
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good thing to touch on we can always unpack it a little bit more later but um you can you can
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talk about each of those individual claims but the fact that ahs and the ucp keep on coming up um i
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think is a is a big thing to be aware of because on the within the independence movement there's a lot
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of talk about um on a political thing political side of the movement being harmed by either an
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independence party or by all these things but they don't fail there there's a failure to talk about
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how the ucp and their own actions could hurt the the movement and there's no getting around it right
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now that it is more right-wingers more conservatives that are kind of fronting this movement uh from all
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the non like all the organizations that are not not affiliated with any government like you've got
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the alberta prosperity project it's not a government organization um so they're not getting smeared with
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any of these but it's not going to stop people from using the ucp's own action to discredit the movement
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yeah yeah so this is where like you can't rely on the ucp to get you through all this like they
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well the ucp has already claimed well daniel smith's claimed her number one job is to keep albert a part
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of canada and we'll see if that messaging changes if there's a clear majority and a clear mandate maybe
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she would revise that but right now she's saying that she's like it's not her job to support the
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wishes of a lot of the members of the ucp yeah it's interesting that if she's i don't know maybe
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there's a long game here but it seems odd to me that you would be literally like the day after the
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election she's got legislation tabled to lower the the threshold for uh citizen-led initiatives and
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like it it seems like you know she's i don't know i i you know if i'm giving her the benefit of the
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doubt what i would what i would hope anyway is that she's playing the rhetorical game to keep the feds
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off her ass while actually kind of helping usher along you know her true wishes but i don't know
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she could be a she could be a filthy federalist at the end of the day who knows um okay we got two
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photos left here i'm gonna i'm gonna skip to the last one and then we're gonna go back to what
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actually uh what we were talking about earlier was actually the best photo of the day so this one was
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just kind of a cool shot i thought this is one of the speakers um i should have got his name but
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he uh very passionate speaker kind of a neat uh kind of a neat uh shot these guys are lucky there
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it was a really hot sunny day uh that day and these guys were in the nice uh shadow of the ledge
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there so that was a good idea to hold it at this hour but uh okay you ready for the best shot of the
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whole day i'm you're gonna have to read it out loud for for the folks at home are you ready james
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only thing that's separating are you are cheeks your cheeks
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yeah that's a highly effective counter protester he had it so close for r as well i don't know what
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he was like i feel like he had the original are written really well and then crossed out tried
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to turn it into a q or something i'm not sure what happened there but but thankfully he crossed
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it out it's lowercase g yeah yeah and then and then he he certainly knows what a contraction is he
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just didn't know how to use it properly in this case maybe the thing is maybe he wrote it without
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the apostrophe and he's like oh i can't forget the apostrophe so he remembers the apostrophe there but
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he forgets the apostrophe up there yeah yeah that's right only thing that's separating are
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your cheeks that's i love it i'm just gonna leave this one up for the rest of our chat here i think
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because that's that was my favorite sign so um yeah that one i mean it's hard to argue
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if if all the signs were like that i probably would i'd have to hand it to them but not all the signs
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were like that most of the signs were treaties respect it yeah the there's gonna be no shortage
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of like hostility and some other um well you're gonna hear all kinds of rhetoric and demonization
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