The Critical Compass Podcast - Candace Owens, Antisemitism & Carbon Tax Protests

00:00:00.000 Zionism as a concept was fairly new, and there were many Orthodox Jews who did not even hear about the concept or didn't agree or had nothing to do with that.

00:00:13.300 So the fact that anti-Semitism is now a concept that's defined, partially it's tied to the state of Israel, seems strange because that doesn't even represent all of Jewish people.

00:00:32.140 So it feels like it's this new definition serving the state more than it's serving the people living all around the world, because it's not just Jewish people living in the state.

00:00:43.300 Hello and welcome to this week's Critical Compass. My name is Mike and this is James.

00:01:04.260 This week we've got a couple topics to discuss from events during the week that have happened in the general podcastosphere that we live in.

00:01:15.600 The first one being the firing of Candace Owens by the Daily Wire. That was kind of, I don't know, you can let me know what you think here, James, but kind of sounds like they tried to make it sound like it wasn't a firing and that it was maybe a mutually agreed upon departure.

00:01:34.760 But as the week kind of went on and more information came out, it started to look more and more like a firing.

00:01:41.720 Yeah, it's hard to know if she kind of wanted out or if she was forced out or you never know the little conversations that happen behind the scenes.

00:01:53.320 But I think that was a shock to a lot of people considering that the Daily Wire is a platform of free speech, or so it was.

00:02:05.700 At least built itself to be, yeah.

00:02:07.360 Kind of been inching towards this with Candace Owens come October 7th. She didn't seem to have the same kind of views that you'd expect from, well, Ben Shapiro being very adamant and very vocal about his support of Israel.

00:02:26.520 So that's already creating an issue. And I guess, is the Daily Wire, they're not editorizing the content like a news station would, but I do feel like there are certain views that are more acceptable than others.

00:02:44.300 Mm-hmm. Well, at least that's the argument that, actually, maybe I'll pull this up from Twitter here.

00:02:51.160 This is the, that's at least the argument that Ben Shapiro made on Dave Rubin's podcast.

00:02:58.360 They talked about this a little bit. I'm just going to share the screen here. Let's see what I've got.

00:03:04.500 Yeah, so this is Alexandros Marinos on Twitter saying that here's a beautiful teaching moment.

00:03:10.840 And the Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin clip is one of the most important recorded interactions for people who care about hypocrisy in the public sphere.

00:03:18.840 Four-minute video here. I won't play at all, but we'll obviously link this in the, in the description.

00:03:24.260 But generally speaking, Shapiro makes the argument that Daily Wire is a publisher, like a magazine or a newspaper, and not a platform, like Locals.

00:03:33.360 Interestingly, he implies that the Daily Wire was subsidizing Candace Owens.

00:03:37.420 This would imply they were taking a financial loss to have her there.

00:03:40.060 Doesn't she have 3.5 million subscribers? I don't think, she's like, she was one of the top hosts, other than like Jordan Peterson.

00:03:50.320 Yeah, she was, if not the best, if not the first, if not the, like the most popular, then at least the second.

00:03:57.380 I think, I don't know, would you say that, would Shapiro still be number one, or do you think JVP would be number one now?

00:04:05.100 I think Jordan Peterson's probably up there.

00:04:10.060 Yeah, yeah. Well, and he says, you know, he goes through a few, few different points here, but one of the things that Shapiro said was that,

00:04:18.060 no one ever says to me, you can't say this. No one ever said that to Walsh. No one ever said that to Candace.

00:04:23.760 But the reality is, there's an Overton window at the Daily Wire. Obviously, there is a non-meeting of the minds. That's all I can say on this.

00:04:30.580 So, what do you think about that, James?

00:04:35.380 I, I think there was a wider Overton window when nobody talked about certain issues, and now that there is disagreements on that,

00:04:46.200 I feel like he can't advocate for it being a free speech platform.

00:04:53.360 I feel like when you have people advocating to like, you can't touch that subject, like, well, why can't you touch it?

00:05:03.040 Or why can't you explore it?

00:05:05.780 Or it'd be different if there's malice behind the exploration of a topic, but I think Candace Owens has, especially with her exploration of BLM,

00:05:15.740 when Black Lives Matters first came out, she spoke up about it and got lambasted by, basically, she's called a traitor to,

00:05:31.420 like, she's a self-hating Black at that point.

00:05:37.720 She's pointing out that, like, oh, maybe there's some corruption in BLM as an organization.

00:05:42.600 They said, well, it's hurting the movement, it's the message behind the movement, but even with making distinctions between the organization and a movement and people,

00:05:53.020 she's still got a lot of hate for that and proved to be right.

00:05:58.080 So, her instincts have been decent on other issues, and she seems to, she's not careless with her words by any means.

00:06:07.500 And she seems to, I don't think she's said anything too reckless that would even fall into, like, with claims of anti-Semitism.

00:06:21.720 That depends on who's defining it.

00:06:25.260 Oh, yeah, well, that's a good segue, because you have a clip lined up for that, too, I think, hey?

00:06:29.980 Yeah, the, well, just to give a little bit of context, we, so...

00:06:40.700 No context, James, just action.

00:06:43.380 Gotta jump right in.

00:06:46.660 Candace has been kind of, like, been kind of in this little feud with Rabbi Shmuley,

00:06:53.460 and maybe, maybe we pull up one of his videos.

00:06:58.040 He is, he is a clown.

00:07:01.780 Of the highest order.

00:07:03.160 Or, or Link.

00:07:04.140 If anything, he is not representing, as a rabbi, he is not representing his people very well.

00:07:11.780 And likely causing more anti-Semitism just, just through his actions.

00:07:16.880 Um, I think it's safe to say that, like, he is not doing anything to increase good relations.

00:07:24.460 And he's been, so Rabbi Shmuley has a business with his daughter selling dildos.

00:07:31.980 And they've been back and forth.

00:07:34.880 That is so weird, man.

00:07:35.820 He's been, he has been attacking Candace Owens for certain positions.

00:07:39.440 And Candace Owens, um, called him an unholy rabbi, from her perspective, from her Christian perspective,

00:07:47.020 which maybe, uh, doesn't sit well with other people.

00:07:51.400 But I think that's an accurate assessment to be, that's kind of a strange family business to have.

00:07:57.780 Um.

00:07:58.440 That seems like a pretty, like, I feel like even people of all different faiths can agree on,

00:08:04.640 and that's probably, that's probably not kosher, to put it in, in terms that Shmuley might be familiar with.

00:08:12.060 Yeah, so, that's been an ongoing feud.

00:08:15.720 And Candace Owens has been very critical of, of Shmuley and his, well, kind of, they've been going back and forth.

00:08:23.300 And, um, Shmuley called Candace the N-word.

00:08:27.240 And Candace liked a post where somebody said he's getting drunk off Christian blood.

00:08:34.380 Like, some silly things on Twitter.

00:08:37.460 But you see how these are enough to add fuel to the fire of claims of, uh, targeted payment and targeted harassment.

00:08:45.780 Yeah.

00:08:46.040 Um.

00:08:47.740 So, and that's where we have Rabbi Barclay writing an article, uh, being very critical of Candace and accusing her for some things.

00:08:57.660 So she, this was before she got fired.

00:09:00.060 She decided to sit down and she's like, well, let's have an honest discussion.

00:09:03.280 Let's fully just go over, here's what you claim.

00:09:07.140 Let's watch the clip that that's based off of and go through.

00:09:09.720 And the, and it all starts out with her asking what antisemitism is.

00:09:16.480 And the first part of that is a, it is a discussion about, he spends the first five minutes talking about more of the history of like blood libels.

00:09:26.480 And the kind of the myths behind Jewish people that were perpetrated in kind of the more medieval times and how some of those things fueled hatred towards Jewish people as a group.

00:09:41.460 But he also specifically says that antisemitism is a hate that mutates.

00:09:50.260 And he's kind of, can't really pinpoint a definition.

00:09:54.540 So let's just, uh, I want to show this little part here.

00:09:58.860 Quazit, you said it's a hate that mutates.

00:10:01.980 Correct.

00:10:03.400 So your belief then is that the definition of antisemitism can necessarily change.

00:10:10.160 Is that correct?

00:10:10.680 It's not just my belief.

00:10:12.240 It is the commonly accepted understanding in both the Jewish and academic worlds.

00:10:16.200 Okay.

00:10:16.640 This isn't, okay.

00:10:18.040 As I said, that's why I quoted, this is a quote.

00:10:20.200 It's a great thing from Lord Sachs, uh, you know, Jonathan Sachs.

00:10:23.680 It's a great thing from Naya Lechik.

00:10:24.800 This, this is just accepted as the understanding of, you know, a cultural anthropologist.

00:10:30.320 So I, I would just say off the bat, I do not accept that definitions can just mutate.

00:10:36.400 That is something that I could debate that on.

00:10:38.660 Like the definition of a woman.

00:10:39.520 I mean, and I'm saying not just about Jewish people.

00:10:41.400 I think that we have to have a concrete definition to work with because then you can just update

00:10:45.000 and say, actually, I've changed that.

00:10:46.920 And now this is what constitutes antisemitism.

00:10:49.880 But Candace, that is the horror of antisemitism.

00:10:53.420 So what you are saying to me is that antisemitism is this and does not change.

00:11:01.160 What I am saying to you is that the entire world and scholars about antisemitism recognize

00:11:09.020 that it is a unique hate, that if you define it as the, the, the, the, that, that you should

00:11:17.260 not be able to exist collectively.

00:11:18.980 Mm-hmm.

00:11:19.580 Okay.

00:11:20.580 Okay.

00:11:21.580 As a collective.

00:11:22.580 They shouldn't have that right.

00:11:23.580 That changes from the middle ages with religion, the 18th through 20th centuries about race.

00:11:30.220 And then after Israel is created, it's a hatred based on the nation.

00:11:36.100 But until that's, until that is understood, that, that, that it is, this isn't something

00:11:42.240 that's really questioned about among academics, theologians, Jewish scholars, I'm not presenting

00:11:48.620 it.

00:11:49.020 This is why I thought I'm so optimistic about a dialogue.

00:11:51.860 But I think part of it is you view that the hate can't mutate.

00:11:56.740 And what I'm trying to tell you is that we have 2000 years of history that demonstrate

00:12:01.240 the exact opposite.

00:12:02.460 So, and I, I'm going to just push back very, just gently here for me personally, if I thought

00:12:10.040 that racism could just be an ever shifting, uh, definition based on the experience of

00:12:16.140 black people, it would be a remarkable power.

00:12:18.660 And I would be able to create something like BLM, which could say that everything was racist.

00:12:22.940 So I am not going to be able to agree that definition should be able to transform according

00:12:30.040 to what's happening during the day.

00:12:32.620 But here's what I will say.

00:12:33.980 If you could, just because I think it's really important, um, for us to get to going through

00:12:39.500 this article, because then you might be able to-

00:12:42.620 And then she does ask him to clarify it a little bit more and they do go into it.

00:12:47.180 Um, after that, they do mention, well, can Jews be anti-Semitic towards themselves?

00:12:55.720 And that's where they do talk about safe, self-hating Jews.

00:13:00.180 So what I would just say for, cause I hadn't seen that clip, my initial reaction to that,

00:13:07.620 like, regardless of the, of the truth value of the argument that he's making, the way that

00:13:13.620 he's arguing it is not, it's, it's suboptimal the way that he's arguing it because sort of

00:13:19.840 rather than defining what he means by why the shifting definition is relevant in this

00:13:27.240 particular type of hate, um, all he really said there was, well, other Jewish scholars

00:13:33.060 agree that this is the case.

00:13:35.180 So that, that, that whole kind of segment was really just one big appeal to authority.

00:13:40.060 It felt like without really much like meat on those bones.

00:13:44.520 You know what I mean?

00:13:45.460 What do you think there?

00:13:46.480 Yeah, he, uh, he does refer to the Jewish scholars defining it.

00:13:51.680 And then the only problem with that is, is that a collective worldwide definition or what

00:13:58.000 if black scholars define racism towards blacks in a different way that people from different

00:14:05.440 continents, like isn't, isn't the scientific process, isn't the kind of social, the, this

00:14:12.980 exploration of, of, of, of humans and these concepts that emerge, isn't that a universal,

00:14:19.300 like you shouldn't have to be part of the group to be able to study and understand and

00:14:23.240 or define the, these concepts.

00:14:25.880 So that, that's the first.

00:14:27.320 Yeah, it's a little convenient.

00:14:29.560 Yeah.

00:14:30.000 That, that, that's the first issue that you get.

00:14:32.400 Um, the next issue is he very much says that he cannot define what racism is like to Candace,

00:14:43.880 who is a black woman, since he is not part of that group.

00:14:48.540 I hate, I hate that, that's such a bad argument too.

00:14:52.260 In the same way that Candace cannot, cannot define anti-Semitism for herself or cannot,

00:14:59.460 because she's not Jewish.

00:14:59.960 Can't reject that because she's not Jewish.

00:15:01.580 That's so silly.

00:15:02.080 That's, yeah.

00:15:02.740 Is, here's the thing, is that not, like he, this rabbi is a conservative, but is that not

00:15:08.920 the woke playbook in action?

00:15:12.440 This is why, this is why, like, this was blowing my mind of like, this felt like a struggle

00:15:17.880 session based on these very far left kind of tactics.

00:15:24.220 This, this is the, this is the, the, the pedagogy of the oppressed, right?

00:15:28.000 This is the, you can't, uh, you can't, uh, uh, the, the oppressed can never, can never,

00:15:34.380 uh, you know, ascend to the level of the oppressor.

00:15:36.980 And like, that's all it is.

00:15:38.160 It's, it's just a reframing of that type of, um, woke power struggle dynamics that I'm

00:15:44.760 sure as a conservative, he would be against in another context, but he doesn't apply it

00:15:48.420 to his own circumstance.

00:15:49.920 And that's where, if these things are helpful to you, you're likely to, if you think of this

00:15:57.600 from power, it's like, yeah, that's, that's the thing is like, this still feels like these

00:16:03.860 are the, still the ultimate trump card.

00:16:06.540 Um, in this case, if it's a hate that mutates and if you define it by opposition to the state

00:16:14.180 of Israel, because the state of Israel would equal the right to be a group or the right

00:16:20.660 to have kind of this national identity, well, that kind of shields Israel from a bit of

00:16:30.780 criticism.

00:16:31.740 If you can just label people criticizing as anti-Semitic.

00:16:37.660 Well, that's the thing.

00:16:38.840 I mean, I would, I would love to know, and I don't know, maybe, maybe she says this later

00:16:42.300 on, but like, I would love to know for somebody making the argument that he is making, would

00:16:49.200 there be, would there be anything that Israel could do that would warrant a critical response

00:16:57.220 that wouldn't be classified as anti-Semitic?

00:17:02.500 Because if, if there, if there can be, then, okay, then we can have a discussion about that

00:17:07.800 and the, you know, the, the breadth of, of those types of actions that are, uh, worthy

00:17:12.600 of constructive criticism.

00:17:14.300 And if it can't be, well, then you know that you're not actually making any sort of good

00:17:17.640 faith argument.

00:17:18.120 You're just espousing a religious belief, essentially.

00:17:21.560 Well, that's where it gets tricky because he tries to differentiate because of, between

00:17:27.160 the criticism of like leaders of Israel now with the saying that Israel should not have,

00:17:34.480 well, a right to exist, not that, not that he says that exactly, but that's that common

00:17:40.940 kind of wording or the common trope that people say is like, well, we have a right to exist.

00:17:47.220 And I'm like that as a nation, we've talked about this before, like, like nations don't

00:17:52.860 really have a right to exist.

00:17:56.080 Like nations don't have a right to anything really, except as, except as defined in international

00:18:02.020 law, which can change throughout time.

00:18:06.320 Like people generally don't speak of nations in the same way they speak of, uh, humans having

00:18:13.500 intrinsic rights.

00:18:14.940 Yeah.

00:18:15.100 And, and human rights being more based on a natural law and states are more of an invention

00:18:22.180 in a way.

00:18:23.760 Ah, but you know what?

00:18:24.640 That's so that could be, and that's probably is the argument is that, well, being that as

00:18:31.680 they would say, being that Israel is a holy land, then it as well is imbued with the same

00:18:37.960 natural rights that humans are.

00:18:41.340 Yeah.

00:18:41.400 You could, you could argue that.

00:18:44.120 Um, so it, I guess the part of the crux of the matter is he focuses on a lot of the

00:18:54.340 post-1948 as the defining motion.

00:18:58.240 Well, obviously since Israel was declared a nation in 1948, before that it was all, um,

00:19:04.800 still British mandate, Palestine.

00:19:07.700 Um, but it feels like a lot of this hinges on this idea of, well, it's this antisemitism

00:19:17.380 is a unique hate and the actions are a unique action.

00:19:24.120 It's a unique evil.

00:19:25.340 It's a unique, it's very special and it exists outside of other moral, our other moral framework.

00:19:33.300 And that feels like we've, as a society, we've given a lot of special treatment and

00:19:38.620 special consideration that, well, we would speak in one way about other groups.

00:19:43.520 And when it comes to some particular groups, we have to be very specific or measured or

00:19:51.660 it, since they're special, we have to, we have to measure every single word because their

00:19:57.900 experience is very unique.

00:19:59.860 Um, again, very reminiscent of how, uh, leftist groups treat, uh, their, their particular oppressed

00:20:10.280 minority.

00:20:10.900 Well, then you get into this question of, can a oppressed group become an oppressor?

00:20:19.780 And does any level of being oppressed within a group grant you immunity from being an oppressor?

00:20:29.540 Like, and, and the obvious answer is, well, like, no, there's shouldn't be any immunity.

00:20:35.700 And you see this already with intersectionality that, um, people who seem to be ranking a

00:20:41.680 little bit higher on this oppression scale.

00:20:44.840 Well, if you're white, but only gay, then like, well, you're, you're still like, you're

00:20:51.940 just barely gay then.

00:20:53.800 Yeah.

00:20:54.260 You're, you're, you're, uh, gay men may as well, not even be oppressed at all.

00:21:00.620 Right.

00:21:01.560 Yeah.

00:21:01.800 Because they're, they're still sis at this point.

00:21:04.640 So, um, and a gay, a gay white man is pretty much like a, pretty much like a, like a, like

00:21:13.600 a straight white female.

00:21:16.140 Really?

00:21:17.280 Yeah.

00:21:17.920 So that's where like you start rank ordering these oppression dynamics and you start to

00:21:24.440 get this ladder and we see there where when convenient people will, will use their card

00:21:31.740 and say, well, that person's a repressor and I'm granted special treatment because of my

00:21:37.860 status in this oppressed group.

00:21:40.600 And, and what did, what did, I would say that I hate to bring them up again, but I don't,

00:21:45.620 I love bringing them up.

00:21:46.600 What did Jordan Peterson say about this exact scenario, like six or eight years ago or whatever?

00:21:52.000 Uh, eventually you will reach a point where you fractionate down to the level of the

00:21:57.280 individual, which is what you should be doing in the first place anyway.

00:22:01.180 So these, these whole like a group oppression dynamics don't, they have a very short half

00:22:08.440 life before they become just meaningless and replaced by something else.

00:22:12.080 So we're sort of straying off track here, but that's just, yeah, no, there, there, that

00:22:16.180 is worth kind of, uh, touching on is like the reason racism is like, and this kind of discrimination

00:22:25.840 is, is like not even that useful is that you have so much variation between individuals of

00:22:31.040 any group to paint any, any group with a, like with one stamp and to assume qualities is

00:22:37.980 like, it's kind of a fool's errand at this, at this point.

00:22:43.260 But even in the case of Jewish people, you have people who are ethnically Jewish people

00:22:49.700 who are culturally, you have some religiously Jewish people.

00:22:55.600 Um, yeah.

00:22:56.700 And Ashkenazi versus Middle East.

00:22:58.920 Yet you have a range of beliefs and a range of, um, range of people within that.

00:23:08.080 And not all of them agree with, like we even talked about like Zionism as a concept in the

00:23:15.760 early, early 19 or early 1900s, late 1800s, where it was fairly, Zionism as a concept was

00:23:25.680 fairly new and there were many Orthodox Jews who did not even hear about the concept or

00:23:33.280 had, didn't agree or had nothing to do with that.

00:23:38.460 So the fact that antisemitism is now a concept that's defined, partially it's tied to the state

00:23:46.100 of Israel seems strange because that was never, that, that, that doesn't even represent all

00:23:55.080 of Jewish people.

00:23:57.200 So it feels like it's this new definition serving the state more than it's serving the

00:24:02.760 people living all around the world because it's not just Jewish people living in the state.

00:24:08.800 Yeah.

00:24:09.380 So, and part of this is, is if you're looking for unique treatment, you kind of need unique

00:24:19.360 leverage or unique, like the wording I've noticed from some of them is very much like, well,

00:24:24.400 well, the rabbi in this case even talks about, is trying to get Candace to admit to October

00:24:34.120 7th being a unique evil above and beyond.

00:24:37.600 Yeah, you had that clip.

00:24:39.220 Yeah.

00:24:39.800 Yeah.

00:24:40.540 And that's kind of strange because like, well, how do you, that's actually very difficult to

00:24:46.080 quantify the moral weighting behind certain events.

00:24:51.000 I'm like, well, what do you do, uh, a count, a head count of how many were affected by one

00:24:56.800 tragedy versus another, or can you say that, well, certain actions are evil no matter who

00:25:03.580 perpetrates them.

00:25:04.500 And like, you could say that children, innocent children getting hurt, like that's, that's

00:25:11.920 pretty bad no matter who does it.

00:25:13.480 Um, so yeah, let me just pull up here.

00:25:19.780 Miscommunication happens.

00:25:20.740 So I'm going to ask you simple questions that, that would define antisemitism with the vast

00:25:27.620 majority of rabbis, Jews, and theologians.

00:25:30.140 Do you believe October 7th was uniquely evil and on a whole other level that anything going

00:25:38.660 on, especially anything going on in Gaza or anything else right now, from the moral, ethical,

00:25:43.580 your point of view as a Christian, I am asking you point to blank.

00:25:48.040 Do you feel that October 7th, what happened is uniquely at a whole other level and depth

00:25:54.420 of evil?

00:25:55.200 Yes or no?

00:25:56.280 I believe that what happened on October 7th is evil.

00:25:59.640 We've seen-

00:25:59.960 Do you believe it is a whole other level than anything else, especially what is going on

00:26:03.900 in Gaza?

00:26:04.220 I think that there have been things that have happened historically, like the Holocaust,

00:26:11.340 like what the Bolsheviks did to Christians, the Christian Holocaust, that I don't-

00:26:15.120 You're not answering.

00:26:16.140 I'm trying to answer your question.

00:26:17.460 I guess I would like you to explain to me, in your own context, Holocaust versus what happened

00:26:23.040 on October 7th.

00:26:24.220 Why is October 7th uniquely evil compared to the Holocaust?

00:26:27.640 Maybe you can educate-

00:26:28.500 And in October 7th, there was, you don't know your history about the Holocaust then.

00:26:32.760 And October 7th, the Holocaust was a machine that was made and cost Germany the war.

00:26:38.780 So you'd say October 7th?

00:26:39.680 October 7th was a specific intention.

00:26:45.100 Remember that on the Holocaust, the first attacks are war attacks because it's all about a war

00:26:50.420 effort and world domination.

00:26:51.520 October 7th is about to torture and do such horrific things to civilians, to the weak, the innocent, the old.

00:27:06.500 So I'm asking you a very simple question.

00:27:09.040 I am-

00:27:09.140 I'm honestly-

00:27:10.540 Wait, wait, wait.

00:27:10.980 You asked it.

00:27:11.920 I'm ready to answer it.

00:27:12.860 I think it was evil.

00:27:14.340 And, you know, if you feel it's uniquely, we've bombed a million Iraqi civilians.

00:27:19.260 You're talking about just like if you're weighing against civilian costs.

00:27:21.580 And again, I think how you said about when you read the-

00:27:23.820 You know, you watch The Passion of the Christ and you have, you know, your eyes when you watch

00:27:28.260 and I have my Christian eyes.

00:27:29.780 Very difficult for me to say when the greatest Holocaust that ever happened was against

00:27:32.580 Christians and what the Bolsheviks did to us, drowning us in barges.

00:27:35.280 I cannot, like, I cannot discount the things that have happened to Christians.

00:27:40.480 We are actually the most persecuted religion in the world and it's never described as uniquely

00:27:44.500 evil.

00:27:45.380 And so what happened on October 7th is evil, full stop.

00:27:48.400 What has happened in the past to Christians, what is happening currently to Christians in

00:27:52.220 Armenia, it's evil.

00:27:54.120 So I-

00:27:55.140 And they go back and forth on that.

00:28:00.620 Interesting.

00:28:01.980 What are your thoughts on that, Mike?

00:28:03.080 It's interesting that he needs, that he needs to hear that, that October 7th was uniquely

00:28:10.420 evil.

00:28:10.860 Like, I don't really know, I don't really know what he's driving at.

00:28:13.980 Like, why?

00:28:16.020 I also don't really know why that, why it would be.

00:28:18.680 Like, of course, I agree, you know, with both of them that it, of course it was evil

00:28:23.780 and it was a, you know, one of the worst, you know, horrific terrorist attacks that have

00:28:28.260 ever happened.

00:28:28.660 But, like, as opposed to what?

00:28:32.400 Like, and by what metric?

00:28:34.800 Because, kind of by definition, like, all terrorist attacks are aimed at civilians and the weak and

00:28:40.520 whatever.

00:28:41.120 Like, they're aimed to cause, their goal is to cause terror and discord and death and suffering.

00:28:46.940 And so, like, how do you measure that?

00:28:49.900 Like, you know, I presume what he's saying is the fact that it's directed against Jews and

00:28:56.440 Israelis by a militant Islamic force that, you know, that basically exists to eradicate

00:29:06.540 Judaism, makes it uniquely evil, which I don't know if maybe somebody who is better at crafting

00:29:16.360 arguments than him might be able to make a good argument for that.

00:29:19.520 But, like, I just don't see how that's necessarily, why that is necessarily the case.

00:29:24.160 If you, like, let's say you compare it against, like, 9-11 or something, because there was

00:29:27.380 another Islamic attack from a group specifically, you know, dedicated to causing terror to Westerners

00:29:34.000 generally, like Americans generally.

00:29:36.560 So, and that, you know, that had a death toll.

00:29:40.020 I don't know, I can't remember exactly what, maybe it was around 3,000 people or something

00:29:44.200 like that.

00:29:44.680 Maybe it was more, but for some reason 3,000 stuck in my head.

00:29:48.280 But, so, like, do you use death toll?

00:29:51.780 Like, what do you, what, by what metric do you define uniquely evil?

00:29:56.160 I guess, is my question.

00:29:57.480 Yeah, it's, it seems really important that she gave that specific answer.

00:30:05.480 And the thing is, this is not a intellectual discussion.

00:30:10.000 This is a struggle session.

00:30:11.420 It feels like he's in there to get her to admit and speak a certain way.

00:30:17.500 And very much, she says that later on, that she does not want anybody to police her speech.

00:30:23.800 Yeah, and, oh yeah, she's the wrong target, if that's what you're trying to do.

00:30:29.480 Yeah, she does not like being told what you can and cannot say.

00:30:35.180 And she is very adamant on like, well, here's what I said, here's what I believe.

00:30:42.420 It's pretty clear cut.

00:30:43.740 I, she condemns Hamas, she condemns the attack, but she still feels for the innocent people

00:30:52.380 getting harmed right now, which is, that's not a very popular stance right now.

00:30:58.260 And it seems like you do have leftists right now using identity politics and oppression

00:31:05.440 dynamics and their cling to Hamas and the Palestinian people, almost as a symbol of like proof of

00:31:15.820 their whole ideology, their worldview of these oppression dynamics.

00:31:20.400 And they're using that to advance their like neo-Marxist ideas.

00:31:25.800 And they're protesting in horrible ways and they are not making any friends by doing it,

00:31:31.400 which kind of sucks because it's making it harder for people to talk about the experience

00:31:37.100 of the Palestinian people because now they have this, the, like these bad actors protesting

00:31:45.240 in very disruptive and not even helpful ways.

00:31:49.720 Yeah, for the sake of it, um, quick aside, that was a pretty good guess.

00:31:59.780 You're, I would say you're right on your memory served well, so my memory did not fail me

00:32:06.280 in this circumstance.

00:32:07.800 Uh, so yes.

00:32:09.680 So actually here, let's do this.

00:32:11.060 Um, okay.

00:32:14.500 Okay, so was 9-11, uh, uniquely, uh, 300% more evil than October 7th?

00:32:27.840 The, it depends if you're counting individuals or if you're counting the history or in, in

00:32:38.340 each of these cases, you can make justifications.

00:32:41.280 So there are some that will say, yeah, uh, for the towers, while the Middle East policy

00:32:49.040 and these wars and the funding and training of groups and some, there were some actions

00:32:56.660 that led it, this didn't happen in a vacuum in either case.

00:33:02.720 Um, and, and almost to treat this as like, it came out of nowhere.

00:33:07.340 Well, and, and also like, you still have the, uh,

00:33:11.280 you sure you have an event, but you also have like, well, what were the actions of the

00:33:16.100 governments around this event?

00:33:17.460 And, and I guess even Viva Frye and others and Dave Smith have asked, well, okay, well

00:33:24.180 this festival was moved a few days before it opened.

00:33:27.200 And then, uh, this is one of the most advanced networks, like security networks, and they have

00:33:34.480 a high-tech army and they have literally everything.

00:33:39.380 Yeah.

00:33:39.860 They have literally everything fenced off and they have cameras everywhere and it took them

00:33:45.180 seven hours to get to this festival for response.

00:33:49.340 So even asking questions like that is like, it's the same.

00:33:53.260 Yeah.

00:33:53.760 It's, it's the same thing when they talk about like, oh, you know, it took the U S military,

00:33:58.260 you know, however many hours to scramble jets when, you know, usually it takes this many

00:34:02.740 hours.

00:34:03.000 Like you can have these sorts of discussions about all of these attacks.

00:34:07.280 And, and I don't think, I don't think it takes a particularly conspiratorial mind, nor

00:34:14.520 does it, does it mean that you're discounting the seriousness and the, and the reality of

00:34:20.160 the events to, to have these discussions and ask these questions.

00:34:24.020 And you don't have to, you know, you don't like, we talked about, you know, just a few

00:34:29.740 minutes ago with, you know, rank order of oppression, how are you going to rank order

00:34:34.740 terrorist attacks?

00:34:35.700 Like, because, because the victims were more, they were more worthy victims on one than the

00:34:41.240 other.

00:34:41.820 Like, yeah.

00:34:43.260 So in the case of Candace Owens, um, this was just a fascinating real time struggle session.

00:34:50.560 And it's hard to know how much of this sentiment is shared between other rabbis and, or other

00:34:58.300 leaders.

00:34:59.500 Um, but if he's kind of the representative in this case, trying to, uh, set the record straight

00:35:07.300 with Candace Owens, I, I feel like he's not, he's not doing a good job.

00:35:13.020 He's not convincing.

00:35:14.580 He's not a really good one though.

00:35:16.000 Yeah.

00:35:16.300 Yeah.

00:35:16.760 If he's too emotional, he's yeah, he's, he gets very emotional and he's playing with

00:35:23.060 leftist, um, tactics at this point.

00:35:27.120 That's right.

00:35:27.760 Yeah.

00:35:27.980 And you can see it.

00:35:28.680 You can tell when people are doing that too.

00:35:30.540 I mean, at least when like, I, I don't think that he's telling the truth, but at least when

00:35:36.040 Ben Shapiro says stuff like, Oh, well, you know, we were, you know, we, you know, we have

00:35:41.020 editorial power over whatever, like, uh, at least, you know, you can believe that at

00:35:46.640 least he probably thinks he's approaching it from an objective standpoint and from like

00:35:50.920 a, well, according to the letter of the law, you know, like that's sure I'll take that

00:35:57.160 more.

00:35:57.480 I don't believe that that was the case, but I will, I will consider that more readily than

00:36:02.860 I would somebody who, you know, uh, holds their head in their hands and, you know, boy,

00:36:07.640 they, you know, whenever you, you know, like that's, that was a bit much, I think.

00:36:11.020 But yeah, it's maybe he is actually emotional.

00:36:14.780 Um, the other thing is how, how much, how much do like some of the military commanders

00:36:24.020 or some of the troops in Israel feel like they are the oppressed while like bombing kilometers

00:36:34.240 and kilometers of, of Gaza.

00:36:36.420 Like maybe it's the stories and these ideas of, well, it's a unique evil that's trying

00:36:42.880 to, they feel all alone in the middle East and they're like, well, we're surrounded by

00:36:48.320 evil and they're trying to get us.

00:36:50.560 And therefore our actions are justified because it's either us or them.

00:36:56.020 And these, anytime a pushback or these attacks happen, they're given more justification.

00:37:01.700 Well, of course we've, we can't let them out of Gaza.

00:37:05.340 Like they're, they're little, the walls that we've set up, we can't let any of them out

00:37:11.720 because they look what they'll do to us if they, if we do that.

00:37:16.380 So it, it does get tricky.

00:37:19.060 It's hard to put yourself in the mindset of others, but I can definitely see how, if there's

00:37:24.740 an example of these, these thoughts on, on victimhood, I wouldn't be surprised if, uh,

00:37:30.160 if that's a ongoing motivator for some.

00:37:36.760 Yeah.

00:37:37.600 Well, I think that's a good, um, that's a good end point on that one for now.

00:37:44.120 I think, yeah, I would agree on that.

00:37:46.360 So you, you had a, we usually do solve, I do have a couple of the things.

00:37:51.720 Um, we usually do solve these world issues when we talk about them, but today I think

00:37:57.260 it might take two episodes for this.

00:37:58.780 So we'll go on to our second topic today.

00:38:01.640 This is, um, this is some, uh, some interesting developments in the Canadian, more, more

00:38:10.980 developments, developments in the Canadian saga of policing, uh, post, uh, freedom convoy

00:38:16.620 2022, uh, for our, uh, Canadian listeners, we don't have to tell you this for our non

00:38:22.720 Canadian listeners, uh, on April 1st, uh, Canada experienced a, another increase on our

00:38:28.920 carbon tax.

00:38:30.200 Uh, the carbon tax, of course, if you're unfamiliar being, uh, a, if you were a liberal, you would

00:38:36.940 call it a price on pollution, quote unquote.

00:38:42.320 If you are a conservative, you would call it, um, making life unaffordable.

00:38:48.900 Uh, and if you were a business owner or if you were a, uh, if you were an oil and gas

00:38:54.340 producer, um, you would probably describe it as essentially meaningless.

00:38:59.740 Uh, I don't know if you were, if you were an economist, but, uh, what it does do, and

00:39:04.600 we know this because of the parliamentary budget office, uh, and the Canadian taxpayer

00:39:09.220 federation, we do know that, uh, despite what anyone will tell you, uh, you do not get

00:39:15.640 more money back in rebates on your carbon tax or it wouldn't be because you can't or

00:39:22.460 yeah, well, it wouldn't, it wouldn't function as a tax and it wouldn't be a rebate.

00:39:25.740 So no, no, none of the terms would make sense if that were the case.

00:39:30.100 Um, but it's, so anyway, uh, there was a, of course there's a response to this and in,

00:39:38.860 uh, high on highway one, uh, and I think this is outside of Banff.

00:39:44.000 I'm going to share my screen here.

00:39:46.560 Yeah.

00:39:46.700 Highway one being the trans Canada highway and it kind of connects Vancouver all the

00:39:52.080 way, all the way to the East coast.

00:39:55.440 Um, this is a care of our, uh, hopefully future friend of the channel.

00:40:00.640 I'd really like to, to meet and interview this guy cause he's doing great work.

00:40:03.800 Mocha.

00:40:04.720 Uh, I'll, I'll just play the short clip here.

00:40:06.800 Uh, get the sound on.

00:40:08.140 Police involvement here at this hubby.

00:40:09.960 This could elicit an even bigger response.

00:40:12.520 Like what we saw at milk river.

00:40:14.160 Is that what they want?

00:40:14.940 Uh, what are they going to do?

00:40:16.060 You know, they've got too many people down here that just elicits a negative response and,

00:40:22.060 and it turns people against them.

00:40:23.860 And then they wonder why we saw what happened in Ottawa.

00:40:26.200 We see what happened here.

00:40:27.300 And we saw what happened.

00:40:28.940 We saw what happened in milk river.

00:40:30.420 It's atrocious that this much money is being spent on this, and we've got as much rampant

00:40:35.000 crime in these communities.

00:40:36.840 And they won't do anything about it, but they'll, they'll stand arm in arm against civilians who

00:40:43.260 are just exercising their God given rights to actually protest.

00:40:46.380 The taxes, the carbon taxes, the cost of living, and we've had it.

00:40:52.060 The protest started yesterday and it's still going on on the second day.

00:40:55.100 When is it going to end?

00:40:56.320 Well, I've, I've packed for three weeks.

00:40:58.740 Uh, there is a few of us who have packed enough food for three weeks.

00:41:02.120 Uh, there are some really nice people in the town close by in Cochran that have volunteered

00:41:06.760 to come and do our laundry for us.

00:41:08.500 So we would like to stay here for as long as it takes to end the carbon tax.

00:41:11.560 Uh, so obviously that's disgusting.

00:41:14.500 Uh, I can't, uh, I can't believe that that type of police presence or response is necessary,

00:41:22.280 uh, for an acts, the tax rally.

00:41:24.520 I mean, these are, you can even see the, the context, the, the scale of this.

00:41:30.700 So they, for those who have never been between like, this is not a blockade.

00:41:37.000 Let's just be clear, right?

00:41:37.960 This is not a, not a blockade.

00:41:39.440 This is between, uh, just outside of Calgary.

00:41:42.740 Uh, there is a, a, I think a petrol can in the background there, and this is kind of a

00:41:48.600 little side road and that that's kind of a major hub.

00:41:53.200 And a lot of people fuel up before going to the mountains there.

00:41:55.600 So that's on, on your way to Canmore.

00:41:57.860 And it seemed like they had one lane as they were standing out there, uh, on one lane to

00:42:04.440 wave to cars as they go by.

00:42:06.340 So they didn't block traffic.

00:42:07.500 Like, I think once the police came in, they cleared that one lane and they pushed everybody

00:42:12.720 off, um, towards where the RVs are.

00:42:16.120 And they were, they would have been, the police line would have been sitting on, like on that

00:42:21.660 dirt there, uh, to get everybody off, off the road.

00:42:25.700 Okay.

00:42:25.740 So this is a side road then that, that most of the, that traffic is on.

00:42:29.100 Yeah.

00:42:29.380 That's a side road being to the right.

00:42:31.120 And the major highway there.

00:42:32.700 So yeah, just to give that context, I think is good because now you're asking, well, maybe

00:42:38.920 that was preliminary.

00:42:41.180 Maybe they were worried about a coots or another blockage of a major artery.

00:42:47.320 Uh, it feels like in this case, this is more of a awareness versus a disruption, um, kind

00:42:57.160 of process where they wanted to get the support of people.

00:43:00.820 And I think generally they, with that being such a major highway to the mountains, I don't

00:43:06.400 think the intention is to make life miserable for all the people you don't, you don't win

00:43:10.700 people's favor by like pissing them off.

00:43:14.680 In this case, uh, where coots, that blockade was very much, well, people couldn't travel

00:43:20.380 between the border anyways.

00:43:21.440 And there's other ways to get over the border.

00:43:23.460 So it wasn't directly choking, um, somebody's access for somebody going on the weekend or

00:43:31.560 enjoying the mountains, et cetera.

00:43:33.680 So, um, yeah, yeah, that's kind of just the context.

00:43:36.980 So like, I was just going to say, we, we saw some weapons there.

00:43:40.340 Like, is that a, is that like, are those necessary for this kind of a, like this kind of a protest?

00:43:49.340 This is more of a gathering, like lawn chairs, you have signs, you have people hanging out

00:43:53.220 like half the time, you'll get flags and family members.

00:43:57.740 And I wouldn't be surprised if there's a barbecue and some smokies like fired up behind, like

00:44:03.700 no bouncy castles.

00:44:05.240 And then that, no, and that, uh, uh, God, I got to pull it up again here.

00:44:10.500 That, uh, that, uh, officer holding the, uh, holding her, uh, with her trigger.

00:44:19.340 Rigor discipline there on that.

00:44:22.500 Cool.

00:44:23.260 Like, look, yeah, you're, that's real, uh, look at that, look at that steely glaze of,

00:44:30.940 uh, of a police officer.

00:44:32.700 Just the other, like, what, what do you think is going through her head right now?

00:44:37.820 Well, it's, they must feel like either they're just following orders or maybe they believe

00:44:45.280 they're doing the right thing.

00:44:46.120 The problem with this.

00:44:47.620 Well, does she think she's going to stand there and like unload, like a, a magazine's

00:44:52.400 worth of bullets at some protesters today?

00:44:54.300 Like, I don't know what the point of that is.

00:44:56.180 You know, that's, that's so far and away above intimidation at that point.

00:45:00.240 Like, it's just.

00:45:01.500 Well, I think those are rubber bullets on that particular gun.

00:45:06.400 I don't know for sure.

00:45:07.240 Like, there were some threads of people comparing, um, like if those were assault weapons versus

00:45:13.300 right, like suppression.

00:45:15.860 Um.

00:45:16.460 And some were, some were pistols, right?

00:45:18.180 With, uh, just extended grips or something.

00:45:20.480 Yeah.

00:45:20.980 Or extended stocks.

00:45:21.940 But at the same time, is that, does that follow the proper kind of the, these ideas of like

00:45:29.320 de-escalation policing?

00:45:31.180 Like, is that building relations?

00:45:32.940 Is that, and, and do you have the same response for other protests?

00:45:37.020 Like, is that.

00:45:40.120 Yes.

00:45:40.520 Good question.

00:45:41.640 Good question, James.

00:45:43.560 Well, let's look up another, uh, another, uh, tweet here by our future, future friend

00:45:48.760 of the, of the channel.

00:45:49.740 That's what I'm going to call him.

00:45:51.340 So, Mocha, this is on, uh, when did he post this?

00:45:54.880 Uh, April 3rd.

00:45:55.620 Yeah, today.

00:45:56.500 Canada is a weird country.

00:45:57.760 You can bring swords, daggers, and spears to a protest while masking your face.

00:46:01.580 But if you dare to peacefully, peacefully protest against taxes, oh boy.

00:46:04.860 Anyway, 100 plus RCMP and full riot gear will show up with tactical teams ready to go.

00:46:10.660 And, uh, here's, uh, here's what he's referring to.

00:46:13.320 This is the, these are these, uh, the Kalistani protests from a couple weeks ago.

00:46:17.980 I don't know that we talked about them, but, uh, this was, this was wild.

00:46:21.100 I mean, look, so you got one guy there.

00:46:22.620 You got one guy there.

00:46:24.480 Meanwhile, you got guys literally with daggers.

00:46:26.400 Legis weapons?

00:46:28.300 Like, yeah.

00:46:28.760 I mean, like, that's.

00:46:34.860 Oh, and they're cutting up a flag.

00:46:38.140 Yeah.

00:46:42.440 There may be only those two cops there.

00:46:46.900 And look at the, like, look at the action here that's happening versus what we just saw.

00:46:53.260 They're visibly agitated, like they're, like the, the protests on Highway 1 seemed a little more chill.

00:47:00.980 People are just waiting in place.

00:47:02.920 Yeah, well, this, like, this literally could have popped off at any second, you know, and there's, there's, from what, from what at least we can see from this video.

00:47:08.400 What if another, another group comes in and they have a disagreement and they're holding daggers, like.

00:47:14.300 Yeah, I mean, that's.

00:47:15.240 The difference between.

00:47:17.320 You can, you can carry, like, you can carry daggers.

00:47:20.120 I mean, you can carry pocket knives and stuff in, in Canada.

00:47:23.500 Depending on the province, they have to be certain, you know, under a certain number of inches.

00:47:27.380 But, like, that type of action, like, you know, the guy, like, stabbing that flag and cutting it.

00:47:32.140 Like, I mean, that's, right in front of the cop, too, who was, he wasn't even really paying attention.

00:47:36.820 He was just sort of, like, in the area.

00:47:40.220 I, I would have, I guess, just to say it a different way.

00:47:43.380 I would have a hard time believing that if anyone at that acts of tax protest pulled out a knife to do anything with it, to cut up an apple.

00:47:52.260 So, I have a hard time believing the response would be as nonchalant as it was in the Kalistani protests that we just saw.

00:48:00.020 Yeah, the, it's not, it's not an equal, equal treatment between these different protests.

00:48:07.360 You have, you can point to other examples of pro-Hamas and people who are literally, like, supporting the terrorist entity of Hamas and saying what they're doing is justified.

00:48:22.540 And them getting preferential treatment from the cops and not the same as, this is where it gets tricky, is, like, wire, like, are there optics associated?

00:48:37.300 Like, well, we can't be too hard on this group because we'll be called racists and look at the history of cops.

00:48:42.720 And, um, they, like, they don't want to be, they don't want to stain on their reputation.

00:48:51.880 But in this case, it feels like full riot gear is maybe just trying to motivate people to stay home and not come out to, like, to protest these kind of things.

00:49:05.560 That's exactly right.

00:49:07.500 Especially, especially when we have two people still in coots, um, or two people from the coots protest still in jail.

00:49:16.160 Um, they're still working out some procedural stuff.

00:49:18.640 So it's been maybe 750 days, um, pre, like, pre-trial.

00:49:24.860 They're not convicted and they've been jailed.

00:49:28.840 So I think between that and then this massive police presence, I feel like there's almost, it's that intimidation of, like, well, you wouldn't want another coot, so don't come out.

00:49:42.040 Like, we're here, we're, like, we'll, we'll do the same thing.

00:49:47.260 Yeah.

00:49:47.860 Yeah.

00:49:48.340 Well, that's right.

00:49:49.440 And here is, uh, here's an example of what you were talking about there about the, um, Hamas protests.

00:49:54.900 Well, uh, I swear one of these days I'm gonna, I'm gonna learn how to share my screen quicker.

00:50:01.240 Here you go.

00:50:02.200 There's a, there's, uh, I don't know if you want to call it a pro-Hamas protest.

00:50:10.240 Uh, apparently they were chanting, globalize the Intifada.

00:50:12.760 So I'll go ahead and say that, in fact, this was a Hamas protest.

00:50:17.240 Uh, literally blocking traffic.

00:50:20.180 There's, there's, you know, there's a disruption being caused here.

00:50:23.040 Uh, you can see the traffic backing up there.

00:50:26.640 See this huge group of people.

00:50:28.160 Hardly any police presence.

00:50:29.800 In fact, earlier on, it almost looked like, uh, uh, being escorted more than anything.

00:50:36.860 It's certainly not a, um, you know, uh, uh, uh, armed force group ready to, you know, ready to act at any moment.

00:50:43.720 Here's some cops on bikes.

00:50:45.520 You know, it's just a very, very, very different response.

00:50:50.060 And I don't, you know, maybe I missed it, but certainly don't remember that being discussed in the media or being, or being talked about in the way, in any sort of way as being, uh, um, being talked about as a disruption or a blockade or any of the usual suspect terms, you know?

00:51:09.900 Yeah.

00:51:10.460 Yeah.

00:51:11.040 And considering if we take the convoy, the convoy is an example, like you still had access to all major streets in Ottawa.

00:51:22.060 Like it was not a, it did not choke, did not set up choke points and prevent like by design from the beginning by, by design.

00:51:32.040 And they worked with the police to make sure, and this is something that like, is still kind of one of these myths that's still said casually by people of like, oh, they, they gridlocked, they gridlocked Ottawa and they shut down all these streets.

00:51:46.220 And it's like, well, there was complete ambulance access.

00:51:49.820 There was a lane open on all these major streets.

00:51:51.920 You can see it in the live streams.

00:51:53.540 And the way that media talks about that protest versus cases where the entire road is blocked, or you have just stop oil.

00:52:04.160 And these are just protests that conveniently aligned with the stories that government and, and the media are, are promoting and championing.

00:52:15.820 So it feels like it's a, it's a double standard.

00:52:19.960 Mm-hmm.

00:52:20.920 Yep.

00:52:21.280 That's for sure.

00:52:22.880 Well, I think, um, I think that pretty much covers what we wanted to cover today, James.

00:52:27.260 What do you think?

00:52:28.300 I think that's a good place to wrap it up.

00:52:30.040 And, uh, it's.

00:52:31.780 Wow.

00:52:32.080 I'm all worked up.

00:52:32.880 I'm all, I'm all hopping mad now, but thinking about unjustify, unjustifiable, unjustifiable cops.

00:52:40.660 But I, uh, that's, that's a good place as any to end.

00:52:44.560 So, um, of course, as always, we'll put links to all this, uh, uh, links to the videos, links to the articles that we, uh, that we talked about timestamped, all that, uh, in the description, in our sub stack.

00:52:56.740 Thank you again, everyone who watches, uh, and who reads our sub stack and who is subscribed to it.

00:53:01.160 We, um, we, um, I love to see the, the, uh, view counts and the, the open, uh, statistics on the email.

00:53:08.100 So that's pretty cool.

00:53:09.780 Uh, thanks as always, guys.

00:53:11.820 And, uh, and we'll see you next week.

00:53:13.740 Yeah.

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The Critical Compass Podcast - April 15, 2024

Candace Owens, Antisemitism & Carbon Tax Protests ｜ A Critical Compass Discussion

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