Holmes Sisters： Alberta Needs to SAVE ITSELF Before it Can Care About Canada
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Summary
In this episode, the brother and sister duo of the and sit down and discuss their views on the independence movement and its impact on the rest of Canada. They discuss the reasons behind their opposition to the current political dichotomy and how they see the future of Canada in a united canada.
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my point is is that a lot of the opposition that we've been seeing to the alberta independence
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movement stems from not just a lack of education on the or lack of knowledge or study on the
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particulars you know like about the the economic aspect and the resource aspect and things like
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this but it comes from an emotional place where they people are um nostalgic for a for a canada
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that doesn't really exist anymore and may not have ever existed how they're portraying it
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when you are talking to your friends specifically in the younger demographic where are you pointing
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them to sort of bypass that maybe that initial emotional response and kind of get down to the
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core of the of the logic and the rationale behind it that's actually really funny because in order
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what is the line macy you always say i mean nobody cares about your facts until they know how much
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you care and so no one cares how much you know until they know how much you care yeah yeah and so
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which is why again me and macy our whole family we don't like the left versus right political
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dichotomy because also knowing the brain everybody has a brain everybody has a left hemisphere and the
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left hemisphere likes to come to grandiose conclusions with small amounts of information
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and people do this on both sides there's a reason there's extremes and then there's a bell curve in
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between and so when it comes to the conservatives they like to claim oh we're so factual and we don't
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care about feelings you know facts don't care about your feelings and it's such a catchy slogan
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and you know we've had it on cups but when you actually watch yourself interact with these people
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when when a protester is in front of you you don't you don't hit them over the head with the
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independence bible you don't do that you ask them why are you why are you here and what are you worried
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about and you you wear your heart on your sleeve and you treat them like a normal human being until
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they show you that they're not treating you like a normal human being then you know all bets are off
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but till that point you treat everybody with good faith and so the people that are looking at
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canada with a nostalgia and we we did an interview with a young gentleman from after our
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the last ucp agm and he's not for independence uh he said you know i i agree with daniel smith and
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in a united canada alberta within united canada yeah um still absolutely respectful even though
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quite an opinionated as most young people are we're very opinionated we think we have the answers to
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everything but still very respectful and that feeling of wanting to stay a united canada and
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wanting to be a charitable neighbor and care the welfare state you know because economics are so hard
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no the canada needs our wealth more now than ever because things are so terrible economically and so
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the answer isn't to talk about i mean i find anyway if i were to tell them and i haven't thus far
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oh this is how poorly and how victimized alberta is you have to understand we are victimized more than
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the rest of canada i don't think that's a good approach thus far the poor me poor me i mean
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leaving canada doesn't mean we hate canada you know it doesn't make us traitors it just means that
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we want to renegotiate the deal put ourselves in a better position to be more charitable in the
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future and that's something that people don't consider it's like did you what if we just want
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to be able to help people better i mean that's why i started doing any listen who what what 18 year
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old listens to podcasts about canadian history and the railroads and like it's not something i was
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interested in but i went i want to be able to help that one that's funny you're an anomaly i did it
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because i wanted to help my family and i thought and then my friends because some of my friends had
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questions and i thought how do i become a smarter person and just a more skilled person that's why i
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lift weights it's not because i had this picture about madison holmes being this specimen i thought oh my
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gosh my mom might have a hard time lifting this box or we're cleaning and we have to move some sort
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of furniture and i'm like i'm this weak woman and i can't do that and my mom's back is gonna go
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sooner than i want it to so it's like okay let's lift some weights and same with doing research
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lifting some mental weights same with alberta independence in my brain we're just trying to
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put ourselves in a better position to do the things it is that we want to do and that can include
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helping canada but right now we're not really helping canada as the constitution is as the
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equalization payments are they're not actually helping but we could put ourselves in a better
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position to help ourselves and then that's the rest of canada that's so that's not necessarily
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fighting feelings with facts it's finding somewhere in the middle just a like tiny little point to hit
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her point home it's like a cute little reiteration exactly what she just said but it's like if you're
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in your own household you all have the same name you share the last name you have the same blood
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but if you feel like you don't have a say like you as a young person perhaps can't talk to your parents
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or the parents feel like they can't get through to their children right then there is a huge discrepancy
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on how that family dynamics going to play out that's true and so it's kind of the same thing is like
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i i don't think that any albertan leaving canada would feel like the canadians like they may call
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themselves that but the human beings that we have been thus calling ourselves as canadian with those
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human beings we do not have any sense of regard that you are not our brethren still that you are
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not our family it's just as many was alluding to and in the analogies is we don't feel like we have
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any sort of voice and quite we literally don't as we've seen with the number of seats that we have
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and the representation in the senate and the house of commons we just don't and so we feel like there
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is a discrepancy in the family unit and so if we can kind of like take the reins a bit ourselves and
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feel like we have that individualization which i think any person would understand and respect is this
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is a matter of trying to determine our individualization again then we can be a bit
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as maddie said a good neighbors act we can start making those decisions of like okay i can breathe
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now so what do you need you know what i mean i'm not suffocating anymore right so there's literal
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statistics even like environmental stewardship that only goes up when your overall prosperity as an
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individual in a household goes up so i mean we need to economically and our energy and our production
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needs to go up before we can think about being more charitable and more hospitable towards the
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environment let alone the rest of our neighbors right now people might call us so that you're the
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big bad bully and you're trying to pull it's like well maybe we'd be less of a bully if we could like
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macy said breathe and right now we can't so just give us a minute to recuperate and then maybe we can
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come back around well you can dispel some of these uh claims pretty quick with so the claims of
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albertans being victims and that's a little bit different than saying like oh poor us we need this
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from you give us give us give us like that's a completely different scenario than us saying
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we want to live our lives we want to thrive we want to work we want to be able to chart our own
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destinies and we want to not be restricted in that process so can you let us do our own thing
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so we can thrive and contribute to the world that's a different mindset that's not that's not a victim
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mindset and what you're describing with with your family and your yourselves of well you're keeping
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yourselves physically and mentally healthy you're seeking new information you're growing and i that's
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a contrast to a lot of people who have come to a lot of their ideas through like osmosis where
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they were just like absorbed from the people around them they never actually critically examined
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any of their core pillars and not everybody wants to