The Critical Compass Podcast - March 01, 2026


Holmes Sisters： Alberta Needs to SAVE ITSELF Before it Can Care About Canada

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Danielle Smith
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Length

9 minutes

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166.15

Word count

1,538

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In this episode, the brother and sister duo of the and sit down and discuss their views on the independence movement and its impact on the rest of Canada. They discuss the reasons behind their opposition to the current political dichotomy and how they see the future of Canada in a united canada.

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00:00:00.000 my point is is that a lot of the opposition that we've been seeing to the alberta independence
00:00:07.660 movement stems from not just a lack of education on the or lack of knowledge or study on the
00:00:14.420 particulars you know like about the the economic aspect and the resource aspect and things like
00:00:19.060 this but it comes from an emotional place where they people are um nostalgic for a for a canada
00:00:25.860 that doesn't really exist anymore and may not have ever existed how they're portraying it
00:00:30.760 when you are talking to your friends specifically in the younger demographic where are you pointing
00:00:37.740 them to sort of bypass that maybe that initial emotional response and kind of get down to the
00:00:44.160 core of the of the logic and the rationale behind it that's actually really funny because in order
00:00:52.220 what is the line macy you always say i mean nobody cares about your facts until they know how much
00:00:59.060 you care and so no one cares how much you know until they know how much you care yeah yeah and so
00:01:04.940 which is why again me and macy our whole family we don't like the left versus right political
00:01:12.200 dichotomy because also knowing the brain everybody has a brain everybody has a left hemisphere and the
00:01:18.840 left hemisphere likes to come to grandiose conclusions with small amounts of information
00:01:23.840 and people do this on both sides there's a reason there's extremes and then there's a bell curve in
00:01:28.600 between and so when it comes to the conservatives they like to claim oh we're so factual and we don't
00:01:34.940 care about feelings you know facts don't care about your feelings and it's such a catchy slogan
00:01:38.800 and you know we've had it on cups but when you actually watch yourself interact with these people
00:01:45.300 when when a protester is in front of you you don't you don't hit them over the head with the
00:01:51.540 independence bible you don't do that you ask them why are you why are you here and what are you worried
00:01:56.900 about and you you wear your heart on your sleeve and you treat them like a normal human being until
00:02:01.700 they show you that they're not treating you like a normal human being then you know all bets are off
00:02:06.320 but till that point you treat everybody with good faith and so the people that are looking at
00:02:13.060 canada with a nostalgia and we we did an interview with a young gentleman from after our
00:02:19.780 the last ucp agm and he's not for independence uh he said you know i i agree with daniel smith and
00:02:27.420 in a united canada alberta within united canada yeah um still absolutely respectful even though
00:02:36.060 quite an opinionated as most young people are we're very opinionated we think we have the answers to
00:02:41.400 everything but still very respectful and that feeling of wanting to stay a united canada and
00:02:48.680 wanting to be a charitable neighbor and care the welfare state you know because economics are so hard
00:02:55.980 no the canada needs our wealth more now than ever because things are so terrible economically and so
00:03:04.340 the answer isn't to talk about i mean i find anyway if i were to tell them and i haven't thus far
00:03:11.620 oh this is how poorly and how victimized alberta is you have to understand we are victimized more than
00:03:17.720 the rest of canada i don't think that's a good approach thus far the poor me poor me i mean
00:03:23.800 leaving canada doesn't mean we hate canada you know it doesn't make us traitors it just means that
00:03:28.740 we want to renegotiate the deal put ourselves in a better position to be more charitable in the
00:03:34.300 future and that's something that people don't consider it's like did you what if we just want
00:03:38.220 to be able to help people better i mean that's why i started doing any listen who what what 18 year
00:03:46.060 old listens to podcasts about canadian history and the railroads and like it's not something i was
00:03:52.760 interested in but i went i want to be able to help that one that's funny you're an anomaly i did it
00:04:01.900 because i wanted to help my family and i thought and then my friends because some of my friends had
00:04:06.820 questions and i thought how do i become a smarter person and just a more skilled person that's why i
00:04:13.320 lift weights it's not because i had this picture about madison holmes being this specimen i thought oh my
00:04:19.680 gosh my mom might have a hard time lifting this box or we're cleaning and we have to move some sort
00:04:25.280 of furniture and i'm like i'm this weak woman and i can't do that and my mom's back is gonna go
00:04:30.820 sooner than i want it to so it's like okay let's lift some weights and same with doing research
00:04:36.240 lifting some mental weights same with alberta independence in my brain we're just trying to
00:04:40.900 put ourselves in a better position to do the things it is that we want to do and that can include
00:04:45.320 helping canada but right now we're not really helping canada as the constitution is as the
00:04:51.040 equalization payments are they're not actually helping but we could put ourselves in a better
00:04:56.420 position to help ourselves and then that's the rest of canada that's so that's not necessarily
00:05:02.340 fighting feelings with facts it's finding somewhere in the middle just a like tiny little point to hit
00:05:10.600 her point home it's like a cute little reiteration exactly what she just said but it's like if you're
00:05:16.000 in your own household you all have the same name you share the last name you have the same blood
00:05:20.980 but if you feel like you don't have a say like you as a young person perhaps can't talk to your parents
00:05:27.200 or the parents feel like they can't get through to their children right then there is a huge discrepancy
00:05:32.420 on how that family dynamics going to play out that's true and so it's kind of the same thing is like
00:05:37.320 i i don't think that any albertan leaving canada would feel like the canadians like they may call
00:05:43.720 themselves that but the human beings that we have been thus calling ourselves as canadian with those
00:05:49.720 human beings we do not have any sense of regard that you are not our brethren still that you are
00:05:55.140 not our family it's just as many was alluding to and in the analogies is we don't feel like we have
00:06:01.780 any sort of voice and quite we literally don't as we've seen with the number of seats that we have
00:06:08.640 and the representation in the senate and the house of commons we just don't and so we feel like there
00:06:13.540 is a discrepancy in the family unit and so if we can kind of like take the reins a bit ourselves and
00:06:20.560 feel like we have that individualization which i think any person would understand and respect is this
00:06:25.840 is a matter of trying to determine our individualization again then we can be a bit
00:06:31.380 as maddie said a good neighbors act we can start making those decisions of like okay i can breathe
00:06:37.460 now so what do you need you know what i mean i'm not suffocating anymore right so there's literal
00:06:44.660 statistics even like environmental stewardship that only goes up when your overall prosperity as an
00:06:51.220 individual in a household goes up so i mean we need to economically and our energy and our production
00:06:56.380 needs to go up before we can think about being more charitable and more hospitable towards the
00:07:02.160 environment let alone the rest of our neighbors right now people might call us so that you're the
00:07:05.920 big bad bully and you're trying to pull it's like well maybe we'd be less of a bully if we could like
00:07:11.060 macy said breathe and right now we can't so just give us a minute to recuperate and then maybe we can
00:07:16.640 come back around well you can dispel some of these uh claims pretty quick with so the claims of
00:07:23.920 albertans being victims and that's a little bit different than saying like oh poor us we need this
00:07:32.100 from you give us give us give us like that's a completely different scenario than us saying
00:07:37.640 we want to live our lives we want to thrive we want to work we want to be able to chart our own
00:07:43.300 destinies and we want to not be restricted in that process so can you let us do our own thing
00:07:50.380 so we can thrive and contribute to the world that's a different mindset that's not that's not a victim
00:07:57.280 mindset and what you're describing with with your family and your yourselves of well you're keeping
00:08:05.080 yourselves physically and mentally healthy you're seeking new information you're growing and i that's
00:08:13.280 a contrast to a lot of people who have come to a lot of their ideas through like osmosis where
00:08:19.340 they were just like absorbed from the people around them they never actually critically examined
00:08:25.180 any of their core pillars and not everybody wants to
00:08:31.040 so
00:08:41.380 so
00:08:45.420 Thank you.