How to Talk to Your Liberal Friends About Alberta Independence - "ASK QUESTIONS!" | Nadine Wellwood
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Summary
In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and fellow separatist activist, James Mcleod, to talk about the current state of the separatist movement in Canada and what we need to do about it. We talk about how to deal with the current infighting in the movement and how we can deal with it in order to get to a Yes on a referendum.
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the most pressing issue for people involved in this movement and you can tell me if you agree
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with this no more infighting we cannot be like arguing with each other publicly on twitter like
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some of us are doing you know people already in in this movement nit picking over the exact right
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wording or the exact right policy for things that haven't happened yet in a country that doesn't
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exist yet uh that's that's really disheartening to see and we need to be very unified because if
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the left is anything it's unified and the other side of that same coin i think is you know james
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has particularly been concerned about this with a couple videos that he he uh recorded on the
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channel leading up to christmas how to talk to your family how to talk to your leftist your liberal
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family members your friends about this in a way that doesn't start arguments because we cannot be
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turning people off at the idea and needs to be we need to be a positive like we're fun positive people
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we're likable god damn it we have friends yeah so like people need to see this side of it and not
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just think of it as like the most cartoonish caricature of a rural alberta farmer that you
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know you might think is the only guy in favor of this you know what i mean yeah so i mean the thing for
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me is ask questions ask the questions you know what what what what is your hang up like what is it that
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you that you're really concerned about with alberta independence like oh well you know i love these
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people daniel smith is going to take away my pensions daniel smith is going to take away this
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and well dan i'm you know glad you think that she has that kind of power she doesn't but
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you know and and people you know what was really funny for me i had when i did the alberta pension
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plan presentations i did i had people go you know nadine by the end of my presentation they were coming
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up to me and these were people who trust me i knew were on the left um and they would come up and
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they go okay so i agree with you i agree with you the best thing we could do is get an alberta pension
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plan let's get out from under the canada pension plan but i don't trust daniel smith you know what
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my response to them was i don't trust her either yeah right right it's like let's find some common
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ground like some some commonality right it's like i agree with you i don't trust daniel smith i don't
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trust anybody in the government yeah nor should any of you right and it's generally rule of thumb yeah
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talk doesn't match up with the outcome right because i hear a lot of talk and it sounds really
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great and a lot of promises but they don't get kept and then i don't see the results right so i call
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that out and i call it out on either side i don't care which side of the fence you you're on left right
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center doesn't matter to me i'm in this because i want a principled approach here's my principles
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here's the outcome i'm looking for and if you promise me that outcome i'm going to hold you
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to that outcome and if you don't deliver i'm going to call you out for it so that's what we have to
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get back to and on this side you know you you put a good thing there because we do have a lot of people
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that are fighting you know i and you know people let's say like oh no credible separatist agrees with
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this and it's like i wait a minute i'm the one who said that and i think i'm a very credible separatist
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you know i i don't we don't all have to agree on everything this is the thing right the the whole
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point is to have the conversation to have the debate so we can get to the truth right to get
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the best result um and if we're going to attack each other though and make statements like that
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then no we can't even get there so but the other thing too is is focus on the next task at hand
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the next task is to get to yes on a referendum right why we got the petition but the point is to get
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to yes on a referendum there's talks about indigenous and how we're going to deal with
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treaties or talks about you know how we're going to deal with this or how we're going to deal with
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that well one step at a time like let's not put the cart before the horse let's focus on the task
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at hand and right now that is let's get to yes on a referendum there are people out there who are
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saying a whole bunch of things that i completely disagree with but you know what we all agree that we
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need to get to yes on a referendum so am i helping them heck yes how do i get those signatures
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on that piece of paper and how do i help right and and it like again it doesn't matter if you are
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l burton and you want the best possible future for not only you but your children and your
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grandchildren you have to take this seriously because you are not the trajectory again um finance
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everything is patterns cycles everything runs cycles things getting better are we getting worse
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right shifts have to happen so let's create the positive shift that is in our favor that puts us
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back in the driver's seat us in control of our destiny our futures not in the hands of ottawa