The Critical Compass Podcast - May 14, 2026


Independence Talk with PJ The Belt & the Freedom Calendar

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Albertans are WINNERS & Will Be the Wealthiest Nation Per Capita on Earth | Fergus Hodgson What Does the Centurion Project Data Breach Mean for Alberta Independence?

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This is the first episode of a series of collaboration events called the Majestic Show, where we bring together some of our favourite streamers from the community to discuss a variety of topics. This episode features James from Critical Compass, PJ from The Majestic show and myself.

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00:12:44 hello ladies and gentlemen
00:12:47 hope you're doing fantastic today
00:12:49 it's finally working
00:12:51 sorry for guys
00:12:53 we have some technical issues
00:12:55 we have to deal with
00:12:56 make sure that James is streaming
00:12:59 PJ is streaming and myself
00:13:01 are streaming as well so
00:13:03 thank you very much for tuning in
00:13:06 I hope you're doing fantastic how you guys
00:13:08 doing over there
00:13:09 pretty good it's great to be
00:13:12 on I know we keep on seeing
00:13:14 each other at different events but this is the
00:13:16 first time we've collaborated
00:13:17 on stream
00:13:18 there's a little bit of echo
00:13:21 on the stream
00:13:22 I can hear myself
00:13:24 that's probably my
00:13:28 sound on my end is very powerful
00:13:29 on my end should be better now i have um echo cancellation activated and i can still hear
00:13:38 myself for some reason uh maybe double check if one of your if you're watching one of the streams
00:13:44 you might have to mute one of them oh that is hold on that's probably why i'm 100 isolated
00:13:54 the people on the audience don't hear any echo i think should be good
00:13:58 okay
00:14:00 also I'm frozen can you see me
00:14:03 I think you're frozen
00:14:06 that's weird
00:14:07 are you on Chrome or are you on Firefox
00:14:12 because Chrome has
00:14:13 okay Chrome has this weird
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00:14:18 so
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00:14:22 sorry for that
00:14:24 that's what I meant by technical issues
00:14:27 so no echo there
00:14:29 so that's good
00:14:29 well I just want to see
00:14:31 what you guys are watching from
00:14:32 I see there's some people
00:14:33 I want to see
00:14:36 what you guys are watching from
00:14:38 I see people from
00:14:39 Northwest Montana
00:14:40 Lori Jean says
00:14:43 are you on
00:14:44 Roll Locals right now?
00:14:46 yes in fact
00:14:47 this is my first video
00:14:48 on Locals
00:14:50 so basically
00:14:52 I've subscribed to Locals
00:14:53 just about last week
00:14:56 yesterday I was doing some testing
00:14:58 on my own stream, everything's okay
00:15:00 and it looks pretty stable
00:15:02 because there are many
00:15:04 ways, because StreamYard
00:15:06 doesn't
00:15:07 actually send this stream, I have to
00:15:10 use another platform called Rumble
00:15:12 Studio to do that, which is
00:15:14 native with
00:15:15 locals, they're essentially the same
00:15:18 company, which is kind of cool
00:15:19 but
00:15:22 yeah, so locals should be fine
00:15:24 so that was very interesting to see
00:15:26 so yeah, I'm trying to be
00:15:28 on many platforms as possible
00:15:30 which is great
00:15:31 I think the other guys
00:15:34 are going to come soon
00:15:35 so let's talk to this event
00:15:37 so this is the first event of a series of
00:15:40 collaboration events called
00:15:42 the Majestic Show
00:15:43 if you are
00:15:45 oh, I think PJ is coming back
00:15:48 are you back?
00:15:49 I think I am, I still have Echo man
00:15:52 I wonder if I should close
00:15:53 my end of the stream, or will that
00:15:55 kill my page?
00:15:57 No, that should be good.
00:15:59 So I can close it?
00:16:02 Okay, so that might be what the issue is.
00:16:03 Let me close it.
00:16:05 Am I still there?
00:16:07 Yeah, you're there.
00:16:09 Okay, awesome. Alright, sorry about that,
00:16:11 everybody. My apologies.
00:16:13 You know, when we talk about technical
00:16:15 issues, this is what we're referring to.
00:16:17 I think we all
00:16:19 have our areas of expertise.
00:16:21 Mine is technical and killing
00:16:23 trolls for the people it's being charming i'm not charming at all i'm like a very dry person to talk
00:16:28 to and and by the way joseph why i know that some people are being a little put off when they say 0.94
00:16:34 oh max you're i want to say hello when you're doing your your streams but you're so dry you
00:16:39 don't say hello well because i'm running cables guys the man is a technician he's got all the
00:16:45 all the million things going on at one time and that is totally not my expertise man totally yeah
00:16:51 Yeah, absolutely.
00:16:51 Couldn't do that.
00:16:53 Absolutely.
00:16:54 So I'm just going to wait until Mr. James from Critical Compass is going to join us.
00:17:00 So what happened to play today?
00:17:01 What you got, PJ?
00:17:03 What are you going to talk about?
00:17:05 Hey, man, we got Alberta Independence.
00:17:06 There's a heck of a lot going on out here in Alberta.
00:17:09 Heck of a lot.
00:17:10 Like, you can't keep up with the news.
00:17:13 Like, I'm out at work, and I hear it at 5 a.m. when I wake up on the radio.
00:17:18 They're talking about Alberta.
00:17:19 uh lunchtime news they're talking about alberta mainstream media can't have enough about alberta
00:17:26 i mean they're talking about it in a negative light mostly uh when it comes to alberta
00:17:32 independent supporters what i like to call alberta patriots because that is what they are
00:17:36 they're patriots these are people fighting for the future of their children not unlike every
00:17:41 other patriot group before that is trying to fight for the freedom uh for future generations
00:17:48 And yeah, they're just the attention is insane. And it's not just in Alberta. It's all over. It's national, national attention. And the latest thing we have, as many of you watching know at this point, is that some unelected judge judges, unelected liberal appointed judge decided that we as Albertans don't get a say in our own future.
00:18:13 and that is there's plenty of subject matter then man there are so many wrong uh so many wrong things
00:18:20 so many things that are wrong with that decision that we can talk about it all night
00:18:24 when i was taught yesterday i have an interview with john bolton just foy john bolton i have it
00:18:31 on my show and we were discussing those and we were discussing about what the future is going to
00:18:36 be for the petition because with those respect i mean we have volunteers that were freezing
00:18:42 cold outside and I think
00:18:45 even in May we have some snow
00:18:47 outside, climate boiling
00:18:48 and
00:18:49 because of their, I mean
00:18:52 and also what happens is that this
00:18:55 court decision kind of
00:18:57 nullifies the hard work of
00:18:59 thousands of volunteers
00:19:00 dancers or canvassers, right?
00:19:03 But I believe, and this is something
00:19:05 that I was talking with John Bolton
00:19:07 is that Daniel Smith
00:19:09 right now, she's in a corner position
00:19:11 She can't say no to a referendum question. 0.99
00:19:15 She can't because otherwise that will be political suicide for her.
00:19:19 Basically, she will be essentially Jason Kenney version 2.0, in a sense.
00:19:27 That's the way I see things.
00:19:29 At the same time, she has about, I don't know what's the percentage,
00:19:33 but if you look at the percentage of people who are in favor of independence
00:19:37 within the United Conservative Party,
00:19:39 Shameless plug, get your UCP membership, by the way.
00:19:43 Do it. 1.00
00:19:44 Do it.
00:19:44 It's $10.
00:19:46 Nobody is going to – anybody can afford to pay $10 to do that.
00:19:52 I think that during the AGM here, and I think it's going to be in Calgary,
00:19:56 it's going to be a very important decision.
00:19:58 It's going to be a very decisive moment in Alberta history.
00:20:01 I can't wait.
00:20:02 So, absolutely.
00:20:03 And November comes quick.
00:20:05 It's in November, isn't it?
00:20:06 The annual general meeting, right?
00:20:09 Usually it's in November. They usually do that at either the beginning of November or the end of November, but it's in November usually.
00:20:20 Oh, yeah. Anybody who can get that $10 and get that membership.
00:20:26 I think my wife got us two memberships. It must have been sometime in this, I don't know, last year sometime.
00:20:34 I don't know if we got to renew it. She might have gotten a multi-year one, so I don't remember, but I did get one.
00:20:39 I don't I don't participate as much as you guys may think that I do.
00:20:43 I don't participate a lot in political things until now when I started talking about Alberta independence after realizing that there is just no future for true conservatives in this country anymore, particularly Alberta conservatives.
00:20:59 There just isn't a future in Canada. And so once Pierre lost, that is when I started this channel, as many of you know, and I just started talking in support for Alberta independence.
00:21:09 And it was exactly April, late April of last year when Pierre lost that. I just said, OK, it's time for Alberta to separate.
00:21:17 So get your UCP membership, get your voice heard.
00:21:22 Why is that important?
00:21:23 Well, we put pressure on those who are governing, the governing party,
00:21:28 to honor the desire of Albertans to have a referendum come October.
00:21:37 And I think it's, I was looking at the price.
00:21:41 Apparently, it's $20 for the membership.
00:21:48 Oh, I think James came back online.
00:21:50 Hello, affordable.
00:21:51 James, are you online?
00:21:54 Can you hear me?
00:21:55 I'm back.
00:21:56 There you are.
00:21:57 The man is back.
00:21:59 Everything stopped.
00:22:00 Like, zero browsers were detecting cameras.
00:22:03 I'm like, okay, restart.
00:22:04 Oh, yeah.
00:22:04 I have this problem with Google, with Opera, which is a common-based browser.
00:22:11 The camera just died, so I used Firefox instead, just FOI.
00:22:16 So, yeah, absolutely.
00:22:17 So we were talking about the membership at the UCP.
00:22:23 That's going to be one of the steps to basically continue the plan of building the independence.
00:22:32 I think that Mitch Investor, even on my show, he was very clear that we need to get involved at the UCP level, right?
00:22:38 because um i don't know if you touched on this but there's the citizen initiative act which
00:22:43 empowers people to do a petition for referendum but there's the referendum act and the government
00:22:49 can just hold a any referendum if they think that's what the people want so we have 700 000
00:22:56 people in some form or another who said let's have a referendum if you count the forever canadian
00:23:03 petition and uh the state free alberta petition so what's stopping the ucp from holding a referendum
00:23:11 right now they're they're kind of delaying this process during my at one time last year i have
00:23:18 an interview with uh the candidates who are going to uh to become you know during the leadership
00:23:26 reps at the ucp last year um i have some interviews with some people including rob smith who is the
00:23:33 current president he was re-elected as the current as the president of the united conservative party
00:23:38 and we had some discussions on alberta independence so basically at the ucp they have two versions of
00:23:45 looking at things one is what's going to happen after a successful referendum in october what's
00:23:54 going to be the position at the ucp right should they become a independence party or should they
00:24:01 honor the will of the people because
00:24:03 effectively that's their vision
00:24:05 they say the will of the people let's say
00:24:07 don't want Alberta to separate
00:24:09 right that's going to be 1.00
00:24:11 the default party status but this is
00:24:13 I can't speak on behalf of UCP
00:24:15 it's just that there are some
00:24:17 directions that UCP is most likely
00:24:19 going to do versus
00:24:21 the position of
00:24:22 versus the government's position
00:24:25 they are completely different and this
00:24:27 is something that I need to understand
00:24:29 in order to influence government you need to get involved politically how to do that you get a ucp
00:24:37 and it happens every single time there is an annual journal meeting every time there's an
00:24:45 egm at the last two or three months people get membership cards just to influence the party into
00:24:53 a direction that we probably
00:24:55 don't want so those
00:24:57 you know that's why
00:24:58 getting involved is so important
00:25:00 so I think it's 20 bucks I've heard in the comments
00:25:03 it's 20 bucks for to get the membership
00:25:05 now I thought it was 10 bucks
00:25:07 back in the day it was 10
00:25:08 but it's something that can be
00:25:11 affordable right 0.96
00:25:12 damn inflation man 0.99
00:25:14 inflation 0.99
00:25:15 if that $10 difference is like
00:25:19 oh no I guess this referendum
00:25:21 isn't important enough
00:25:22 not it's not it's not that important yeah ten dollars that's it that's where i draw the line
00:25:26 damn twenty dollars i'm not i don't care about the future no guys definitely get your um get your if
00:25:32 you can please do get your ucp membership if you're an alberta resident it's going to be 0.98
00:25:38 critical uh for you to have that um just touching on your point max you just got a member the
00:25:46 government is not the party and the party is not the government, but they're obviously
00:25:51 intertwined. They're obviously very close. Like the party is who chooses who the premier is going
00:25:59 to be if the party is the governing party. We all know what happened to Jason Kenney back in what
00:26:05 was it 2021, 2022. He wasn't listening to the membership of the party and that costed him his
00:26:12 job in government so in another thing that james mentioned that is super critical here very
00:26:19 important is the fact that there's the citizens initiative petition right there's that avenue to
00:26:26 get a referendum which is proving very difficult because we have the cars are stacked against us
00:26:31 the entire system is against alberta patriots but then there's also the referendum act premier
00:26:38 Daniel Smith can, at her discretion, her discretion only, obviously she has to consult with her
00:26:44 cabinet, but at her discretion at the end of the day, she can call a referendum. And we have over
00:26:49 700,000 people, despite what Lucas Suck is saying, that Forever Canadian wasn't trying to get a
00:26:56 referendum. His paperwork that he signed, his petition says that he wants a referendum. Just
00:27:03 with his specific question that is framed as a pro-Canada question.
00:27:08 Still, though, he was asking for a referendum.
00:27:11 So over 700,000 Albertans have asked for a referendum.
00:27:14 And more importantly, and I'm going to finish with this,
00:27:16 more importantly, Danielle's base, she knows well over 50%.
00:27:21 I believe the lowest estimate is 57% of her base supports independence.
00:27:26 So in my opinion, it will end up having to call a referendum 1.00
00:27:30 or it might end up doing her job.
00:27:32 And that's what I was saying.
00:27:34 That's what I was discussing with John Bolton last night
00:27:37 is that whether we have those judges
00:27:40 doing their funny games and everything,
00:27:43 it's not going to change the outcome
00:27:45 that the likelihood for us to have a referendum
00:27:48 on October 19 is pretty high.
00:27:51 She's cornered on both ends.
00:27:53 She's cornered by the Federalist Conservatives,
00:27:56 and she's also cornered by the Independents.
00:27:59 she's in a very tough
00:28:02 position right now and 0.94
00:28:03 that's what also a point
00:28:06 that Corey Morgan was
00:28:08 basically saying it's like hey
00:28:10 she is in a very tough position because
00:28:12 if she refuses to 0.99
00:28:14 do that then 0.98
00:28:16 something that will happen is that she will be 1.00
00:28:18 single
00:28:19 what's it say
00:28:21 she will be
00:28:24 Jason Kane 8
00:28:25 absolutely
00:28:26 oh unacceptable finish comes in my show
00:28:30 $20 super shot
00:28:31 glad to see a new show on YouTube
00:28:34 well thanks very much
00:28:35 and if you want to come let me know
00:28:37 that would be good
00:28:37 for those who didn't know
00:28:42 what the name of the show is called
00:28:43 The Majestic Show
00:28:45 it's because of the
00:28:46 I just referred to from The Majestic 12
00:28:49 so this is like
00:28:51 a secret
00:28:53 project
00:28:55 from the government to spy on UFOs and stuff.
00:28:59 I was like, that would be good to use that one.
00:29:01 So, I don't know.
00:29:02 I don't keep it that way majestic.
00:29:04 So, that was good.
00:29:05 So, yeah, that's what happens.
00:29:07 And I think that people are very close
00:29:10 to getting the referendum done.
00:29:13 But one of the things I was talking with John Bolton,
00:29:16 and I think even Derek Smith to some point,
00:29:20 is that we need to get to the cities,
00:29:22 get the message to the cities.
00:29:23 And I want to touch on that specifically.
00:29:26 What are the things that can be done to improve the messaging and getting the message out or getting the vote out in the cities?
00:29:36 You want to go, James?
00:29:37 Yeah.
00:29:39 So I think the cities are tricky because they're in a bubble, which is different than the rule bubble.
00:29:45 And I think a lot of the messaging right now has been, it's been focused more on the rule side of things.
00:29:51 And that's where the majority of the supporters and the people who signed the petition came from.
00:29:57 So the cities, they are, I think there's a lot of people, there's like still a, if you sum up everybody in Alberta, there's still a third who will never vote, a third who will, that are like somewhat on the fence, who may consider it.
00:30:15 And then there's a third that is fully convinced of independence.
00:30:21 So it's that middle third of that.
00:30:23 I think the efforts are best focused on because if somebody is a public sector worker, they're
00:30:29 an NDP supporter, they're a collectivist, they trust in our institutions, the amount
00:30:35 of effort that you would need for you're undoing a worldview and that doesn't happen very quickly.
00:30:42 So those people are that's a waste of time.
00:30:44 But it's those people who know that something's off. They know that Canada doesn't feel the same. And maybe they don't think the NDP is doing a good job in Alberta. Maybe they don't trust the UCP. Maybe they're only lukewarm about the liberals. It depends. So that's an in for conversation.
00:31:05 You could say, this is an opportunity for us to rewrite and build a new constitution that serves everybody.
00:31:13 So the opportunity factor, in addition to the economic side of things, that's maybe two ways that you could start connecting with some of these people.
00:31:25 Oh, yeah.
00:31:27 What about the people who are, if you look at the maps, I'm going to show you the map of Edmonton so people understand.
00:31:33 I just want to add a quick thing to what James said, if that's okay, Max.
00:31:37 Sure, sure, sure.
00:31:39 Absolutely.
00:31:40 The cities are going to be the most challenging part of this.
00:31:43 Rural Albertans tend to be more conservative, generally speaking.
00:31:47 And I think that's a reality in most of the world.
00:31:50 Rural people tend to be more conservative. 0.97
00:31:52 Just, I think, a virtue of the lifestyle, the way they live, their beliefs, the culture. 0.95
00:31:59 People who are in the city normally are more government employees.
00:32:03 more public sector jobs
00:32:07 more unions, more unionized
00:32:09 but that doesn't mean that there aren't
00:32:11 people. I mean, do you guys remember
00:32:12 what happened in Edmonton?
00:32:15 The lines
00:32:17 those legendary lines
00:32:18 and I think weather was like minus 10
00:32:21 minus 15 that day
00:32:22 it was pretty cold
00:32:23 and there were lines as far as the eye could see
00:32:27 Rumble Park in Edmonton
00:32:28 which I had the privilege of being there
00:32:30 and live streaming 0.73
00:32:32 and people were falling on their butts
00:32:35 because the roadways, I mean, the walkways
00:32:37 were literally icy as heck
00:32:39 and there were still thousands
00:32:42 and I mean thousands of people there.
00:32:44 I remember seeing this older lady. 0.95
00:32:46 She was walking literally with a walker, 0.97
00:32:48 with a mobility assistance
00:32:50 and she was there
00:32:52 and I remember asking her like,
00:32:54 ma'am, why are you here?
00:32:56 And she said that, oh, there you go.
00:32:59 You got, there it is.
00:33:00 The footage speaks for itself.
00:33:01 So, and this is Edmonton, which is, one could argue, the most liberal city in all of Alberta, the most leftist city in all of Alberta. But another thing that I want to say is that while we can't underestimate the fact that there is a lot of support for the Remain side in the cities, we also have to realize that the mainstream media is always going to underestimate the support for independence.
00:33:28 Heck, they underestimated support for Pierre Poliev everywhere.
00:33:33 Are they not going to underestimate support for people who are trying to break the country apart?
00:33:38 Look at the poll that the Rebel News recently commissioned.
00:33:42 I don't know if you guys are aware of that.
00:33:45 46% of First Nations support, respondents support Alberta independence.
00:33:53 I think that's the highest level poll we've ever heard of or seen.
00:33:58 And they're not reporting on that.
00:34:02 Just picked up an article from CTV News, guys.
00:34:05 I'm just going to share this for a second.
00:34:07 So if you look closely at the title, just the title,
00:34:14 Alberta separatists, or not separatists, whatever,
00:34:18 submit thousands of signatures on referendum petition.
00:34:20 So when you look at this, thousands of signatures,
00:34:23 anywhere from 2,000 to 700,000, it's not clear, right?
00:34:28 And you have to go all the way down and then you have the numbers like Elections Alberta still has converted a number of signatures, but Mitch is saying we have 300,000. It's more like 300 and 1,620 from my understanding.
00:34:42 But that's the point is that even the mainstream media right now is actively trying to deceive future voters on Alberta independence.
00:34:55 And that's a trend that's going to continue from now on and now on.
00:34:59 It's going to escalate very hard.
00:35:03 And I don't think that we need to underestimate that people who are living in the city specifically, they get all the information from Instagram media sources and left-leaning websites.
00:35:17 One of the things, I want to show you this for a second, because this is the map of Edmonton.
00:35:22 Obviously, I'm in Edmonton, so I don't hide anything against it.
00:35:26 But if you look at the map of Edmonton, presentation mode.
00:35:30 So this is Edmonton, guys.
00:35:32 You see the dawn out of Edmonton?
00:35:34 If there's any, and even at the provincial election, all the votes happen around Edmonton.
00:35:41 Like Shelwell Parks, they got a UCP MLA.
00:35:44 Beaumont, they got a Converse Conservative MLA.
00:35:47 Le Duc, they have a Conservative MLA.
00:35:49 But in the Edmonton area, it's pretty much NDP.
00:35:52 NDP, yep.
00:35:54 Yeah, that's pretty much NDP.
00:35:55 So what we need to do, I think, this is something that I was talking with Mr. Vester about this, is that we will need to change messaging for the cities.
00:36:06 Why do you think that we need to focus on the cities that might be different from rural areas?
00:36:10 so potentially even um one way you could phrase things um well there's a thought experiment that
00:36:23 i've been that i've been doing and i've been meaning to actually ask more people that if you
00:36:28 had 10 years of conservative rule at a federal level and the ndp are in power in alberta
00:36:36 would you be willing to consider independence so i'm curious if people are if some of these people
00:36:46 that are left-leaning if they're against the principle of independence in any form or if
00:36:54 if canada was dominated by conservatives would they think that the last bastion of hope would be a
00:37:02 independent NDP Alberta. So that's just a little thought experiment where Mike and I are going to
00:37:11 try to ask people that and go out on the streets. So that's one thing we're just trying to do.
00:37:18 So you can do different thought experiments or more Socratic messaging. And so one thing that
00:37:28 doesn't work with a lot of people that are entrenched is telling them what to believe
00:37:32 yep so it's best if you ask leading questions or if somebody feels like well like i i feel
00:37:40 strongly about being canadian then you ask them like well what does it mean to be canadian like
00:37:45 is it a piece of paper is it values you so you can get them thinking about the identity aspect
00:37:52 of it you can ask them about well the nature of confederation and you depending on the person
00:37:59 like different these different subsets of topics may be more or less um effective depending on
00:38:06 on who it is you'd be surprised about the amount of people that have no idea that alberta's being
00:38:14 mistreated they think that people are just complaining about the fact that alberta's
00:38:18 been mistreated and without we don't have any facts to back it up they don't know about the
00:38:22 inequality in the senate they don't know about the inequality in the uh parliamentary seats
00:38:28 they don't know about the equalization payments they don't know about the fact that the there
00:38:33 was a little thing called the national energy program during the trudeau years uh trudeau the
00:38:38 father they there are so many factors that people are not aware of and they think that it's just
00:38:44 opinion but when you reveal the facts back to kind of what james is talking about that it's not
00:38:50 easy to convince somebody but it is a lot more i think it's a lot easier to kind of let people
00:38:56 convince themselves you just give them the facts and then another thing that james mentioned earlier
00:39:01 which i wholeheartedly agree with is that there are i believe a third a third and a third i think
00:39:07 And Keith Wilson mentioned that, too.
00:39:11 There's the third that is us, Max, James, myself, every Alberta patriot out there, everybody who signed the petition, those people who supported the pendants.
00:39:22 We're that 30 percent to 35 percent that the polls keep repeatedly recognizing.
00:39:30 Then there's the third that we're never going to convince.
00:39:33 And we need to recognize that those people will never be convinced.
00:39:37 It's just not going to happen. You're not going to convince an NDPer, highly unlikely, to convince them that an independent conservative Alberta is better for them.
00:39:49 You're not going to convince a union member who benefits from the status quo that tearing everything apart and starting from zero to build anew, to build better, to build a more free and prosperous country is a good idea because they benefit from what we have.
00:40:08 And then lastly, there's that in between that middle point where those are the convinceables, people who can be convinced, people who are open, sitting on the fence.
00:40:19 You can talk to them. And at the end of the day, Max, this referendum is going to be won by those who show up.
00:40:26 I hear a lot of people saying, oh, there's five million Albertans. There's no way you're going to get two point two point five million and one.
00:40:34 We don't need 2.5 million in one.
00:40:36 If a million people show up, we need 500,000 in one.
00:40:42 And then that's 50% plus one.
00:40:44 It's whoever shows up who wins the referendum.
00:40:47 I just want to see some feedback from the people who are watching online.
00:40:50 Oh, James is disconnected.
00:40:53 He's going to put it back online.
00:40:54 Yeah.
00:40:55 But I was just looking at the comment section.
00:40:57 If you have any comments or any feedback on how to get to the cities, put us on the chat and we can discuss about it.
00:41:06 Like there are some comments that are very like, I don't like this comment I'm going to show you.
00:41:13 And it was because we need to shy away from that mentality, which is essentially I want to talk about that and actually about this thing.
00:41:20 This is a comment I want to show you, but kind of, so basically it said, it's like trying to convince a bunch of ostriches, you know, to talk about the elbows or the elbows off people.
00:41:34 I don't like that comment, but I want to ask you, but I want to tell you anyways, because I was essentially somebody who used to, who, when I moved here to Alberta, I never believed in independence. 0.91
00:41:46 I thought it was a very stupid idea, to be honest. 0.69
00:41:49 and then after starting to go to town hall meetings 0.99
00:41:52 and meeting with conservative people
00:41:54 that's how I started to
00:41:55 change my mind about
00:41:57 many aspects of things
00:41:59 so
00:42:00 what I think
00:42:03 the people need to change
00:42:05 are the federalist conservatives
00:42:07 the hardcore liberals
00:42:10 or NDPs
00:42:11 are essentially the 30%
00:42:13 that you're probably not going to be able to convince
00:42:16 anyways
00:42:16 but we can't convince
00:42:19 the people in the middle
00:42:20 and they're still clinging on the
00:42:23 idea of Canada
00:42:24 post second world war
00:42:26 post second world war
00:42:30 so that is I think the issue is
00:42:33 once they end
00:42:34 how you convince them
00:42:36 well you convince them by saying
00:42:38 hey the idea of
00:42:40 Canada that used to have
00:42:42 that we used to know
00:42:44 is the one that is not working
00:42:46 how can we do those things
00:42:48 but everything we've done
00:42:50 everything we've tried
00:42:51 is not working
00:42:52 like changing the Senate
00:42:54 insisting on the fact
00:42:56 that in order to trigger
00:42:57 a constitutional change
00:42:59 that requires 7 out of the 10 provinces
00:43:02 to agree
00:43:04 and to open the Constitution
00:43:06 then it goes to the Senate
00:43:08 then it goes to the Supreme Court
00:43:10 and yada yada yada
00:43:11 it's technically impossible
00:43:13 you have to believe
00:43:15 in unicorn fairy dust
00:43:19 in order to do that, right?
00:43:21 So the only way feasible
00:43:24 that we have to do
00:43:25 in order to regain our sovereignty
00:43:27 as a nation
00:43:28 is by leaving Canada, basically.
00:43:31 That's it.
00:43:32 That's the only way
00:43:33 because we tried everything.
00:43:35 And this is what you mentioned, PJ,
00:43:38 is that, oh, James came back.
00:43:39 I think he...
00:43:41 Hello.
00:43:41 the uh the streamer doesn't like me today the oh that's we're gonna talk about about other
00:43:50 platforms as well which is gonna cool so yeah we're talking about this the um the in bad the
00:43:57 ignorance from people like the film who believe don't necessarily believe in independence i i
00:44:03 don't i don't i don't i don't like to treat the other people uh who are not in favor of independence 0.97
00:44:10 that's stupid it's not my kind of people i often say that they're just all are ill-informed and 0.98
00:44:17 when the when you outline the facts and the facts are visible and understandable um what about the 1.00
00:44:25 immigrant community in the cities what do you have any strategies or any thoughts about the
00:44:31 immigrant community here in the cities and well um i had two two things to touch on is like um
00:44:40 one so the oh i i think i'm frozen again oh no yeah it's happening again hear me
00:44:50 yeah i can hear you trying to use uh next time trying to use firefox because it always crashes
00:44:56 Firefox. I've tried every single browser
00:44:58 today. I am going around the world
00:45:00 in different...
00:45:03 I'm getting... I am
00:45:04 trying to increase the diversity
00:45:06 of browsers that I'm using.
00:45:08 And I've done them all today. 0.82
00:45:10 Diversity, Doc, we're strange.
00:45:12 We got Chrome, we got Edge,
00:45:14 we got Firefox, we got all those
00:45:16 things. Dreamyard doesn't like him today.
00:45:18 Why does it freeze on
00:45:20 the most awkward face?
00:45:24 He's blowing a kiss.
00:45:26 let's change that um i'll i'll leave you with one thought and then i'll try to restart again
00:45:33 um i know so the one thought i had is that uh a lot of people in the cities they are
00:45:40 stressed with their lives they are overwhelmed they barely have enough time for all the things
00:45:45 that they want to do so they're not thinking about politics so they kind of export a lot of
00:45:49 their thinking to somebody else and i think they just casually interact with politics more
00:45:55 just through whatever random posts show up on social media and when it comes to canada they're
00:46:01 nostalgic for a canada that doesn't really exist anymore yeah for the people who have immigrated
00:46:08 they don't have that same nostalgia because they're they're new let it be new within a couple
00:46:14 years within five years within 10 years their uh perspective hasn't they have a different
00:46:21 perspective because they haven't seen the changes in the same way but i think some of them might be
00:46:28 willing to realize that there is a limit to immigration there's a limit to how much we can
00:46:35 just print money and pay for these services without actually letting things catch up uh so
00:46:42 it depends who you're talking to but i think most people can agree that you can't just print your
00:46:49 you can't print your way out of this problem
00:46:52 by printing money
00:46:52 oh yeah
00:46:55 the economy
00:46:57 sorry go ahead
00:46:59 I'm looking at the comment section
00:47:01 this is very interesting
00:47:03 and I'm going to pull the comment because
00:47:05 this is very interesting
00:47:07 and this is something I hear all the time
00:47:10 from the immigrant community
00:47:11 I want to see
00:47:12 I think I lost the comment
00:47:16 here
00:47:16 it was going so fast for a while it was like crazy crazy crazy but basically saying that
00:47:25 basically saying that the people who came here to canada don't necessarily adhere to the idea of
00:47:34 of alberta necessarily for example all the people who came here like post 2020 2015 after
00:47:42 Justin Trudeau was
00:47:44 elected as a prime minister
00:47:47 paused, installed as a
00:47:49 prime minister and paused
00:47:50 basically what
00:47:53 happens is that we have
00:47:55 this problem where
00:47:57 they 0.99
00:47:57 came here to Canada
00:48:00 and Canada is the country that
00:48:03 opened the doors
00:48:04 to them, right?
00:48:07 So for them
00:48:08 the concept of Alberta
00:48:11 just the concept of Alberta is not something that they probably know, okay?
00:48:19 I think that the people who are in favor of independence,
00:48:22 who happen to be immigrants, myself included,
00:48:24 if I call myself immigrant at this point,
00:48:28 are the people who lived here in Canada for a very long time
00:48:31 and saw the difference between 2015 all the way down right now.
00:48:37 So I was talking to, the other day, I was talking to a Chinese national, a guy who is from China.
00:48:44 He's been here in Canada for 30 years and speaks English with a little bit of an accent.
00:48:50 Fine.
00:48:51 And when I was talking about Alberta politics, he was completely on fire on Alberta independence.
00:48:56 He says that Canada is broken beyond repair.
00:49:00 and he said that what happened in China 30 years ago
00:49:04 is literally what's happening in Canada right now.
00:49:08 I remember a while ago, I think it was in February or March,
00:49:13 I was doing a live stream with Jason Levine
00:49:15 and there was a lady from China in the back during the Q&A session.
00:49:20 She was very emotional when she said,
00:49:23 look, you guys have no clue what was happening right now.
00:49:27 You have no clue what's happening.
00:49:29 You have no clue what's coming down the pipe.
00:49:33 I fled communist China, and what's happening in Canada is exactly what happened to China about 30 years ago. 0.55
00:49:41 They escaped from that, and now they have the same thing happening in Canada all over again. 0.96
00:49:48 So I think that there are immigrants who see the danger, they favor Alberta independence. 0.92
00:49:56 They just are not necessarily very vocal about it. 0.95
00:50:00 And those who are not in favor of independence, they're probably doing so by sheer ignorance, i.e. the people who moved here in 2015 to talk about independence.
00:50:13 They see Canada as the country who opened the doors, but they don't think about the country that doesn't exist.
00:50:24 And that's the dangers of a post-national state as it is right now.
00:50:30 You touched a very valid point there.
00:50:33 There are particularly those immigrants who come from countries that have suffered oppression,
00:50:39 who have gone through communist issues, like issues with authoritarianism.
00:50:45 i know of a guy from cuba uh who carlos and he uh he he's like yeah alberta needs to
00:50:54 alberta needs to get the heck out of canada because he knows what communism looks like
00:50:59 and then there's this footage uh this one uh this one clip uh from a gentleman i think he was from
00:51:05 venezuela and he said he was waving an alberta flag you remember that clip that i'm talking about
00:51:10 I don't know. Yeah, I don't know who recorded it. But this this young man, he's from Venezuela, another country that has suffered under communism, not so much so anymore, because Donald Trump did him a little favor getting rid of Maduro there.
00:51:25 But they suffered. They've been suffering under communism for decades and decades.
00:51:31 And immigrants that come from countries like that, right, countries where letting government have a little too much power, they will understand what's happening to Canada, particularly if they've been here long enough. 0.98
00:51:42 Notice that the immigrants who do support our independence are normally people who've been here long enough. 0.81
00:51:48 They've been here for at least 10 years to to see just the decay, just how Canada has been decaying and getting worse and worse, thanks to government, mostly because they're going to blame it on outside factors, the weather, climate boiling across the world is having a war.
00:52:07 So that's why there's two million Canadians visiting a food bank every year.
00:52:11 No, like, no, that's not what it is.
00:52:14 We know exactly what you're doing.
00:52:16 You're bringing in way too many people. 1.00
00:52:18 And immigrants and minorities are starting to complain, probably more than Caucasians. 0.99
00:52:25 People like myself, men of color, like there are way too many people and they're not adapting.
00:52:30 They don't speak the language.
00:52:32 And there are a lot of us who think that way and who believe that in an independent Alberta that is governed with more common sense and with an actual constitution, unlike the top-down government that we have here in Canada, it would serve its citizens well.
00:52:51 where there is immigration, but with measure, with common sense, bringing in people as needed
00:52:58 and making sure that the people that were brought in are very well served by a system that gives them the opportunity
00:53:05 that those who came before them did have, because those that are coming today, they don't have the opportunities.
00:53:11 And then the people that are here also are failing and having less opportunity because they're bringing way too many people.
00:53:18 I want to touch on this comment, and this is from Logan Hogg, 6237, and reads,
00:53:25 Well, Alberta isn't close to communism. I love you guys, but what exactly are you talking about exactly?
00:53:31 And to that respond, to that answer, I would like to basically, if you watch on my channel, like Freedom Calendar,
00:53:38 you're going to see all the town halls on Alberta independence.
00:53:41 And watch the ones from Mitch Sylvester from the APP slash SFA days.
00:53:47 It's not communism in the way that people think about communism, but rather a policy change that is favoring NGOs, is favoring people that you don't necessarily, they have an agenda, right?
00:54:04 And that's what's happening right now is that it's not called communism, but it's operating like communists.
00:54:11 Because if you call yourself communist, people are not necessarily going to be on board with you.
00:54:18 But if you do the same thing as a communist, you're going to see that.
00:54:24 For example, Klaus Schwab, before he became the leader of the president of the World Economic Forum,
00:54:37 was in fact a Danish politician who claimed to be a democratic socialist, right?
00:54:45 What's the NDP right now? New democratic socialist.
00:54:49 It's like potato, potato. It's the same thing. They're communists.
00:54:52 they just don't call themselves communists that's the thing you like you can you have a pile of
00:54:59 of this though it's not just just because historically it was named communism and you
00:55:05 have a certain flavor doesn't mean it's going to in 2026 it's not gonna take that same exact
00:55:13 recipe so um i i do have one little point to add um so you could describe it as uh technocratic
00:55:22 oligarchical uh collectivism is the way that this current form has has manifested so the
00:55:33 technocracy side that's centralized control using multiple uh let it be surveillance let it be
00:55:41 like a digital currency and these technological levers to try to crack down on people and control
00:55:49 how they live their lives how much carbon they're emitting maybe somebody's using too much power
00:55:54 maybe somebody eats too much red meat if we gave all the power they would control those things
00:56:00 because they know what's best and they believe that in the very core of their essence so that's
00:56:07 the that's the technocratic aspect of it the um oligarchical is that's that bureaucracy that's
00:56:15 the you've got a ruling managerial class who thinks they have like they they know what is
00:56:23 best for other people and that's how they operate and then the collectivism is that's the piece that
00:56:29 people normally associate with communism is the redistribution of wealth and i think people don't
00:56:37 fully understand where wealth actually comes from it's not a zero-sum game and like you
00:56:45 right now people think of canada as like oh you have these robust social services and we often
00:56:54 get into a conversation where we think of like well look at sweden and norway and some of these
00:56:58 nordic countries and they have robust welfare systems but if you look at how they actually
00:57:04 pay for it they empower the private sector in a way that canada does not canada has a larger
00:57:12 public sector with the government choosing winners and losers and as soon as you get past 50
00:57:20 you are into the communism territory how much in communism i think 50 percent is
00:57:28 roughly is it do you know that well and i'll i'll like to add communism isn't the thing
00:57:34 that you just wake up one day and suddenly you're wearing a red shirt that says number 50 and your
00:57:39 neighbor is number 51 and you're all living in houses that are painted the same color
00:57:43 communism takes time and there are there are signs of it an ever-growing government like james just
00:57:51 alluded to an ever-growing government that thinks it knows what's best for you what's best for your
00:57:56 children a government that thinks they need to feed your kids because they made it so nearly
00:58:00 impossible for you to feed your own kids, right? They now have some sort of program,
00:58:06 lunch program at the schools when instead of lowering taxes on groceries so that people can
00:58:11 afford to feed their own children. A government that determines whether you get to go on a road
00:58:17 trip or not because they increase or decrease the price of carbon, you shouldn't be taking a road
00:58:23 trip this summer while they fly around and they go everywhere. A government that determines what
00:58:28 is proper speech and what is illegal speech and what and what isn't right like controlling your
00:58:34 speech is canada headed towards a bigger government bigger government control when it comes to those
00:58:41 topics and many others and i believe it is in every single one of those canada's becoming more
00:58:46 totalitarian and and to that note what also happens as well oh i think you got a super chat pj that's
00:58:54 awesome so thank you yeah you got it you got a 5w super chat super sticker thanks thanks guys
00:59:01 so another thing that also happens and this is in regard to the new world order side of things is
00:59:08 that we can we have a lot of a lot of people are talking about provincial politics federal politics
00:59:15 but almost nobody talks about municipal politics and a lot of what was happening right now like
00:59:21 If I'm in Edmonton, the stuff about the bike lanes is what is making people absolutely mad.
00:59:30 The infield, like the zoning laws, is absolutely outrageous.
00:59:35 Putting houses in the middle of two houses is like insane, right?
00:59:40 But why is it that happened?
00:59:42 because if you look at the municipal politics,
00:59:46 did you know that only 10% of people in Edmonton,
00:59:50 the last municipal election, actually voted?
00:59:53 10% actually dared to vote.
00:59:57 That's crazy.
00:59:58 10% relative to a 45, 50% on an average provincial election.
01:00:07 And municipal politics, literally what is paying your,
01:00:10 Even if you live in an apartment, your apartment monthly payment is going to increase directly because of the municipal taxes.
01:00:23 People don't notice.
01:00:25 So that's going to be the number one reason to get involved politically, not just politically at the provincial level, federal level, but also municipal.
01:00:37 And why is it important?
01:00:39 because essentially there are roadblocks by the provincial government
01:00:44 or talking provincially here in Alberta
01:00:46 that are essentially trying to prevent the meddling of federal politics
01:00:53 inside provincial jurisdiction.
01:00:55 But another way to bypass it is to corrupt and influence municipal politics.
01:01:03 And we're not talking about the city of Edmonton.
01:01:05 We're not just talking about Red Deer.
01:01:08 but just at the county level, like Sturgeon County, 13 Howland County, Red Deer County,
01:01:14 Lacombe County, because that's essentially municipal level.
01:01:19 So you need to get involved at the municipal level.
01:01:22 It is not normal to have, I know a lady, I don't know if she's watching right now, 0.99
01:01:28 but she's very involved at her county, and the counselors absolutely hate her.
01:01:34 They despise her because she is absolutely hated by the current county administration because every time there is a dry law, every time something happens, she goes up there and says, no, I disagree. 0.99
01:01:53 You're nuts. 1.00
01:01:54 You're insane. 1.00
01:01:57 Every single time. 0.99
01:02:00 But there's one of her in every county.
01:02:03 You need to be the second, the third, the fourth, the fifth, and have many people together like this.
01:02:11 And once you start to get to that point, then people can actually support you.
01:02:15 So start with what's happening at your back door first, because that's what's happening right now.
01:02:21 So municipal politics is, I think, more important than provincial politics, to my belief.
01:02:27 And that is where a lot of those initiatives, like New World Order initiatives, like net zero, bike lanes, garbage collection, all those things, they all come in.
01:02:44 15-minute cities.
01:02:45 It's all based at the municipal level, funneled and paid by federal money.
01:02:51 The biggest culprit is the Federation of Municipal, the Municipal Council, that's a federally managed association with cities from all over Canada.
01:03:09 And they dictate how cities are going to run, including smaller towns.
01:03:14 Like, for example, if you are, let's say, let's just spitball in here.
01:03:19 Let's say you're in Westlock, or let's say you're in Boyle.
01:03:25 Like, Boyle is about 500 people.
01:03:27 I'll just give an example here, like trying to, this is just theoretical here.
01:03:32 Like, if you take a town like Boyle, Boyle, Alberta,
01:03:36 which is on Highway 28 all the way to Edmonton for Mac,
01:03:40 if you talk to the people and you ask them, do you want some bike lanes,
01:03:46 who's going to go to the bike lanes?
01:03:48 those guys are driving pickup trucks at minus 45 diesel trucks they're going to give a care about
01:03:54 bike lanes but what will happen if they do put a bike in who's going to use them
01:03:59 so one one thing to touch on though is how these ideas propagate um and i i did want to say that
01:04:07 like the new world order side of things though it's really good to understand i haven't had much
01:04:14 success talking with people who are not subscribed who don't already know about the wef or they think
01:04:23 it's a good conference of good ideas and everything it's a hard it's a hard thing to unpack so i
01:04:28 usually go a layer deeper into the just the fundamental principles of things but when it
01:04:33 comes to um what we're up against is we're actually up against institutional capture because
01:04:40 these ideas get spread around and they get adopted because they have uh institutional power
01:04:47 in a sense so there's this term called idea laundering where you have like academic journals
01:04:53 that are more ideological in nature and they'll put out studies and it'll be passed through peer
01:05:00 review without very much um okay yeah with uh it was good to have you pj uh yeah pj is hey pj has
01:05:10 to pj has to leave at seven he has a commitment so thank you very much pj we'll continue the show
01:05:15 anyways um but yeah essentially yeah go ahead james yeah so um these journals they let it be
01:05:24 climate science or gender ideology or any other kind of more grievance study they'll publish this
01:05:32 they'll have laxed kind of peer-reviewed processes and then once a couple papers get published on
01:05:38 these or the use of bike lanes or use of solar panels other journals will cite all these previous
01:05:45 studies and then it's just a circle of them citing each other and now there's a large body of
01:05:53 research and a large body of studies that people will point to and they're flawed in some way but
01:06:00 when you try to either say like okay well wind and solar panel maybe that's that's not the best
01:06:08 for alberta or uh well like are bike lines necessary in this kind of place they will
01:06:15 point to a study and then dismiss your argument straight from there um so it gets tricky to
01:06:22 unpack these ideas with people because they'll point to the institutions that have already
01:06:27 made all these conclusions oh yeah absolutely and if we talk about as the subject of the subject
01:06:33 of independence i've seen uh that many of the chiefs that are pushing against albert independence
01:06:41 are being paid by the taos foundation which is essentially greenpeace over in uh over steroids
01:06:49 basically right so that's a lot of money to influence a lot of people that this is like the
01:06:56 george soros type of people you know the george soros type of people they all gravitate into the
01:07:03 uh tales foundation so yeah it's in a lot of conversations you'll at some point you will
01:07:12 come up and you'll be arguing with the tv or you'll be arguing with this propaganda when you're
01:07:18 discussing with people um so this is where if you are going to the fundamental layer like the
01:07:26 foundational principles i think sometimes that's effective so when it comes to municipal like
01:07:33 municipalities um you would ask them like well how good is our garbage collection how good are
01:07:40 our actual services or how good is the water in calgary like you have all these other initiatives
01:07:45 that they're putting effort into and a real big dumb question is why are they doing all these
01:07:52 other initiatives when they can't even handle basic services yeah so this is from the toronto
01:07:58 sun right now first nation chief this is in 2014 guys 2014 okay and by estrell event by the time
01:08:08 he wasn't he wasn't with rebel news uh extra event 50 000 g 50 000 received from the taos
01:08:15 foundation and you see it's a this is when people talk about political interference you know this is
01:08:22 a san francisco that is international yeah interference if for those people san francisco
01:08:30 that's like what are what are they doing paying people in alberta to like
01:08:36 yeah so this is directly money from the states going to canada and paying people in canada
01:08:45 to influence public opinions so by the way we're not paid by donald trump we're not made by
01:08:52 platmir putin so joseph away but those folks they get paid by international money in the states in
01:09:00 san francisco right so that's where it remained by a new world order is it's not the concept of
01:09:07 it's just the lack of sovereignty from political decisions that's what it is basically because like
01:09:15 have you ever voted for mass immigration raise your hands if you have voted for race immigration
01:09:22 crickets it's not like there's been one policy or one referendum where people said yes we want
01:09:29 one million more people in canada yeah absolutely the thais foundation is a george soro group
01:09:38 again again alexander so here's a here's a thought when it comes to some of these issues it's
01:09:46 how it starts is they'll say well canada we're well off and we gotta extend our arms and we're
01:09:52 a welcoming compassionate place therefore we gotta save people with the refugees or
01:09:57 our birth rate's too low and we need temporary foreign workers to work these jobs and so it 1.00
01:10:04 comes from like this seemingly normal point of view but it kind of gets washed through like
01:10:11 well the numbers aren't really reported accurately well because you have actual
01:10:16 like you have full immigration you have temporary foreign workers you have temp like permanent
01:10:23 residents and then you have people like the refugee side of things and the numbers get a
01:10:30 little bit skewed and i think year to year people are like well they it sounds like a reasonable
01:10:37 amount but they're not including everybody that is if you factor in everybody that's a lot of strain
01:10:43 on like hospitals schools and so that that becomes a unsustainable number but they've made it
01:10:52 so politically inconvenient that like you would be you're considered racist if you oppose that
01:10:59 because we're supposed to have a hundred percent compassion to a hundred percent of people a hundred
01:11:05 percent of the time you got to extend your heart why because we live in canada so that's a lot to
01:11:12 undo in some of these conversations but i think more people are starting to realize um we've hit
01:11:18 a breaking point and for some some groups of immigrants if they're not the dominant immigrant
01:11:25 group i think those people might actually be worried that they'd be outvoted from the interests
01:11:30 of other immigrants that do not have their best interests in mind absolutely absolutely so basically
01:11:38 i mean basically what it means is that we have to step away we need to step up and tackle those 0.99
01:11:47 things the subject of independence why is that people are jumping on the independence stream
01:11:52 that much is because of stuff like that like when people are essentially i read i read a i read
01:12:00 something about how people are not necessarily backing up provincial uh federal politics right
01:12:06 now is because they only see alberta separation as the last straw basically you're essentially
01:12:14 cutting the head of this giant hydra called canada or called the new world order system
01:12:21 or you know whatever and that is what's happening right now is that by becoming independent you're
01:12:29 going to be left behind all those power structures but what kind of worries me is that and this is
01:12:37 something that kind of really worries me about open independence uh in a in a very weird way
01:12:42 is that we need to make sure that the things that we left Canada from
01:12:48 are not going to be implemented in a new Republic of Alberta.
01:12:53 If they're coming here, then, well, like, they're coming to Canada
01:12:57 because Canada has something distinct and special that wasn't the case
01:13:03 where they came from.
01:13:05 But if where they came from, like, let's say, let's just take India as an example. 0.84
01:13:10 If Canada turns into India, like, well, why do they come to Canada then if it's essentially just like if it loses all sense of being Canada, then why even come here at this point? 0.91
01:13:27 because we apparently had something unique and worth worthy of people wanting to leave their 0.97
01:13:36 homes and travel thousands of miles to get here so then the question is like well isn't that worth
01:13:46 protecting and then if it's not if we're not able to protect it at a Canada wide level
01:13:52 So can we protect that pioneering spirit, these foundational values that built Canada, that built Alberta?
01:14:00 Can we protect that within Alberta itself?
01:14:03 And I think our best shot is within Alberta.
01:14:07 Absolutely.
01:14:08 There is a conference that will be held in Calgary.
01:14:11 I think it's going to be on Saturday.
01:14:12 I will be there because I will be there not streaming but just taping the event.
01:14:17 They're going to have Leighton Gray, Michael Wagner, and I have a bunch of others.
01:14:22 I don't have the list on top of me, but they're going to talk about the Constitutional Convention,
01:14:29 a possible Constitutional Conference for Alberta independence.
01:14:33 And they're going to have folks like Leighton Gray, Michael Wagner,
01:14:39 Green Abraham will be there as well.
01:14:42 Green Abraham is a huge theology guy.
01:14:47 So that's going to be very interesting to see.
01:14:50 So that's going to be very interesting.
01:14:52 But one of the topics is that we need to bring Christian values
01:14:56 into a new constitutional, into the new constitution.
01:15:01 Because if you look at the history of Canada,
01:15:05 Canada adopted a multicultural position from Trudeau Senior, 0.90
01:15:10 and that is when this country started to fall apart, basically.
01:15:16 Now we have those, it's like nothing against immigration, but they were, at that time, they just removed the federal government adopted multiculturalism as the standard instead of Christian values.
01:15:33 Yeah, and ultimately, that I've kind of articulated this before, multi-ethnic can work if there's shared values that glue people together.
01:15:44 multicultural doesn't work because what you get is enclaves you get pockets you get
01:15:51 communities keeping together they speak their own language they have their own values 1.00
01:15:55 and then you don't have a glue that you don't have a sense of national identity
01:16:01 um and you just have special interest groups competing against other special interests
01:16:08 and and they are just that they're voting blocs at that point so there's no shared community other
01:16:16 than like other than just the community of those who speak the same language yeah exactly it's like
01:16:25 in the states uh the united states of america was known as this bastion of freedom but if you go to
01:16:32 any kind of country
01:16:34 like if you go to
01:16:36 let's say in a place
01:16:38 like in a city
01:16:39 in states
01:16:41 it's a very entrepreneurial place
01:16:43 some people have their businesses and everything
01:16:45 but you might also have
01:16:48 the Greek guy
01:16:50 or the Iranian guy
01:16:52 or the Pakistani guy
01:16:54 having a business and hiring people
01:16:56 not imposing his values
01:17:00 but he was running a business
01:17:01 and he's passing this well to his generations, you know.
01:17:06 That's why we need to, I think, do that.
01:17:09 But when we have all those people coming from other countries,
01:17:12 I won't give you names. 0.90
01:17:14 You don't need to behave as your... 1.00
01:17:17 You need to behave like Westerners, basically, 1.00
01:17:23 and not bringing your ways of doing things, 0.97
01:17:28 like from other countries to Canada.
01:17:30 It is not normal to see some people littering garbage on the driveway
01:17:38 because they were doing this in their country, but in here we do not.
01:17:42 That's why we have garbage collection.
01:17:44 That's why we do things in a certain way.
01:17:47 If you bring your way of doing things here in Alberta or in Canada,
01:17:52 people don't necessarily like it.
01:17:55 What do you think of that?
01:17:56 Well, there's a simple...
01:17:58 That's what we mentioned, basically.
01:18:00 yeah the uh i wouldn't move to japan and expect them to cater to the way that i live so
01:18:10 the thing is if i moved to japan i would be there would be a lot of pressure for me to
01:18:17 live like the japanese live and their threshold for calling you a fellow japanese is very high
01:18:25 because they've got such a unified culture
01:18:28 that they won't just give that label to anybody.
01:18:32 So there are some people that maybe they weren't
01:18:36 like ethnically Japanese,
01:18:38 but they've lived there for 20 years.
01:18:40 They speak the language.
01:18:41 They're really in touch with the culture.
01:18:44 And those people, after a certain amount of time,
01:18:49 okay, they will be comfortable.
01:18:51 others will be comfortable calling them japanese at that point but the threshold is very high
01:18:58 in canada we've lowered the threshold to not include any sort of assimilation absolutely um
01:19:07 i think it's worth also differentiating between like immigration in the last
01:19:14 five ten years versus immigration in the 80s and 90s i think what the you had more
01:19:22 um an entrepreneurs back then you had more um more of the high skilled they really wanted to
01:19:31 integrate um even even my grandparents and great-grandparents um i have ukrainian roots
01:19:39 and some polish roots as well and they would never they would all like out in public they
01:19:46 would always speak english that was one of their rules that like they they made a a huge point to
01:19:54 integrate and sure they would go to like poker halls and they would enjoy the some dances and
01:20:01 some music and that just to get together and celebrate their culture but they didn't impose
01:20:10 their culture on other people that's true um i remember a while ago i was talking those as this
01:20:15 lady as the uh as this pharmacy um and she has a clear issue speaking english and and because my 1.00
01:20:28 first language is spanish and her default behavior is that if somebody doesn't understand her 0.99
01:20:35 she goes back to spanish and i could technically speak spanish with her but i choose not to
01:20:41 because what's going to happen next is that she's she's not going to learn the language she is the
01:20:47 one who needs to learn english in the first place not me well i think but it's as i mentioned if
01:20:54 you go into a country and this is something that one of the comment sections says is like
01:20:59 this is something a comment I just saw you like I spot in the comments but basically you need to
01:21:06 adapt your country you're going in like when I moved here to Alberta I was basically doing my
01:21:12 research as to why as to what Alberta looks like politically and speaking and what kind of motivate
01:21:19 me to move west is this deep entrepreneurial spirit that we tend to find in the United States,
01:21:26 you know, because in Quebec specifically, if you want to start a business, the government's 0.99
01:21:31 going to sue your ass. It's going to be this, it's this, it's this. It's not, they have a very, 0.98
01:21:37 very, very different cultural structure that we have here in Alberta, at least in Saskatchewan.
01:21:42 So when you move to a place, you have to look at what they're actually doing. And it's your
01:21:48 responsibility to fit into the culture right and not the other way around
01:21:53 yeah and um yeah so that that's a difficult thing to describe well like it's a conversation with a
01:22:06 lot of landmines so it takes some skill not to be inflammatory in describing that but it's a worthy
01:22:13 thing of like it has to be talked about because if you don't talk about like well what does it
01:22:20 actually mean to be canadian at some point we're just going to lose it um if there's no pressure
01:22:25 absolutely if there's nothing no incentives to to share these common values um then like well
01:22:34 why why called canada at this point like why not just absolutely else yeah absolutely uh i wanted
01:22:43 to go to the next subject, we don't mind
01:22:45 we're going to talk about another thing
01:22:47 that is really going up in the news
01:22:49 this is called
01:22:50 3,400 to leave Alberta
01:22:53 to leave Canada, and that is
01:22:55 Bill 22, shall we?
01:22:58 Yeah
01:22:58 So I was looking at
01:23:01 this bill, this piece of legislation
01:23:03 and I found this surprisingly
01:23:05 interesting
01:23:06 summary from Grok, by the way
01:23:09 they do a great job
01:23:10 I know it's AI, but
01:23:12 basically what I found out is that
01:23:15 because right now what's happening
01:23:17 is that if you look at my
01:23:19 I'm going to look at my Twitter feed here
01:23:21 I'm just going to share you something
01:23:22 I'm going to roll my mark marks
01:23:27 and
01:23:27 so if you look at this
01:23:30 I'm going to share this screen here
01:23:31 so if you look at this
01:23:33 we have this company called Winscribe
01:23:35 that if
01:23:37 BLC22 passes
01:23:39 they're going to move
01:23:41 their headquarters to the united states or another country they're going to pack their bags and leave
01:23:48 and signal is doing the same thing for those freedom groups who are using signal
01:23:53 this is what happens meta as well too is planning to do the same in many other companies i believe
01:24:00 that shopify will do the same so was so so why this is important to talk about it aside that is
01:24:09 from is an erosion from freedoms is this part here.
01:24:14 So this is a summary that I pulled from Grok.
01:24:17 I just said, okay, just give me the key points
01:24:20 from Bill 22, and this is the part
01:24:25 that it is very interesting, very damaging.
01:24:29 It requires certain electronic service providers
01:24:32 like cloud providers, telecom communications
01:24:35 like Telos Rogers, what have you,
01:24:37 send what they call
01:24:39 metadata. Metadata is
01:24:41 basically the information about
01:24:43 the information
01:24:45 and that will be stored
01:24:47 by the government and
01:24:49 cloud providers like Microsoft
01:24:51 365, Google Apps
01:24:53 and even
01:24:55 cloud providers like OVH
01:24:57 will have to
01:24:58 abide to those legislations.
01:25:02 And that's very challenging
01:25:03 because
01:25:04 Canada by this law is going to lose a lot of jobs in the tech sector
01:25:15 because Canada will be seen as this country that no longer supports innovation
01:25:21 and Canada will become another shell of a country
01:25:30 by becoming another territorial state by requiring those regulations
01:25:34 Because if you look at core service providers, and I used to work in IT, so I cannot know those things, I guess.
01:25:40 When you say core service providers defined by regulations, big telecoms must meet baseline requirements, that's going to create two issues.
01:25:49 One is, okay, so the companies need to implement restrictions by the federal government.
01:25:57 Those regulations will definitely going to take time and money for them to comply.
01:26:02 and who's going to pay for those things?
01:26:05 The customer.
01:26:08 So no wonder why your cell phone bill will increase
01:26:11 because of those technologies that need to be implemented.
01:26:17 So that's what I call a deferred tax
01:26:21 because the companies need to comply
01:26:24 but they can't afford because that is about,
01:26:27 these are about millions and billions of investment
01:26:31 to comply with the government
01:26:34 and they have to pay it somewhere
01:26:36 so that cost will be sent
01:26:38 to the customer.
01:26:40 Not to mention that
01:26:40 countries will, not to mention
01:26:44 that companies
01:26:45 that's the reason we're living
01:26:48 is because they see
01:26:49 the writing on the wall, they say
01:26:51 no, we're not going to comply with those regulations
01:26:54 it's too expensive to run a business in Canada
01:26:56 so they're going to move.
01:26:58 So what's going to happen?
01:26:59 people in tech sector will be laid off again canada's making itself weaker by design so
01:27:09 the privacy considerations are one thing but the self like just adding layers of regulation
01:27:15 makes canada instantly less competitive and i know the funny thing is they might actually try to
01:27:22 they create a problem that's like okay well they're leaving now and they don't like these
01:27:27 new regulations and then they might give a subsidy to some so again they're picking the winners and
01:27:33 losers so they've created a problem that only they can solve and now they can say like well
01:27:38 we've given subsidies and look we kept these we grew these businesses or we grew this sector 0.95
01:27:43 but what they really did is just slightly undid 30 percent of the damage that they created through
01:27:51 these insane policies yeah absolutely and and that's going to happen is that what will happen
01:27:58 is that the companies who are in the market right now like microsoft specifically who has i think
01:28:05 three data centers in the country one in quebec city one in toronto and they're building i think
01:28:11 they're i think in vancouver they have a new one or something i don't know fully 100 those companies
01:28:16 they'll have to, because they have the cash flow, they can afford to implement those regular
01:28:21 government regulations. But if you want to use those services, then you have to go by the rules
01:28:28 and such and such and such. It will be almost impossible for third parties to actually,
01:28:35 or new startups to actually use their infrastructure. It's another way of controlling
01:28:39 the market by big factors and that's is going to only allow the big players like microsoft google
01:28:48 and all the other guys to compete in a market that's been dominated by just an oligarchy
01:28:53 basically that's the way i see things the fine aspect so let's say you have certain regulations
01:28:58 and you have a certain threshold of fines like and penalties or whatever if you don't meet certain
01:29:06 regulations that again prices out small businesses and prevents so like no small business for a lot
01:29:16 of these things they can't handle a lot of like first of all okay well you got to submit this
01:29:21 proposal and get this signed off of and have somebody inspect this and um there's already a
01:29:28 lot of hurdles to starting a new business and then the cost of that those elements alone is a lot and
01:29:34 then the cost of if anything isn't right the cost of fines is enough to tank somebody who's
01:29:41 essentially paying for this small business out of their own pocket oh yeah again you are stifling
01:29:46 any kind of innovation and like should we be surprised that canada's like our growth per
01:29:53 gdp is stagnating compared to any other g7 country like should be no surprise at this point because
01:30:00 of all these self-imposed rules and regulations.
01:30:07 And as I was going through that Bill C-22, because I spent roughly a week trying to look
01:30:12 at information at this bill, and it's very damaging, along with Bill C-8, Bill C-9, who
01:30:21 can put us in jail if we dare to talk about Supreme Leader Carney, you know.
01:30:26 so that's gonna be like the fan like the bill sweet 22 will be the nail on the coffin so when
01:30:34 you talk about communism like it's happened like in china right now they have what they call the
01:30:39 great firewall of china and i know people who are in china right now i talk to them on a daily basis
01:30:45 and over there if there's some piece of information that the government doesn't like
01:30:50 the screens on the gyms, they go black, right?
01:30:55 If you want to go on a website that is not authorized by the government, there are people
01:31:00 actually going to your houses and give you your finances or lower your credit score saying,
01:31:05 hey, you can't go on a website.
01:31:07 This is forbidden, yada, yada, yada.
01:31:09 There's the fines going to cost you.
01:31:11 This is going to lower your credit score.
01:31:13 That's how they operate.
01:31:14 So by allowing this framework is, by this framework allows guys like Cisco, because all the network infrastructure in China is owned by Cisco, they got a very juicy contract to monopolize the network infrastructure management in China via China Telecom.
01:31:35 So it's going to only create, as you said, James, only allow a certain, like only a few players in the market to operate.
01:31:48 That's why you have the bigger players like Videotron, TELUS, also buying all those small service providers.
01:31:57 I believe TELUS just purchased a very local provider called Onet and Alts.
01:32:05 And in Quebec, Videotron just purchased like a dozen of independent cable providers, right?
01:32:14 Rogers was recently purchased Shaw. 0.99
01:32:16 So they're trying to get all this power into the hands of probably a handful of telecom companies because they have the cap to implement those idiotic, insane regulations. 0.99
01:32:30 yeah it's uh this is not this is you can't regulate yourself to prosperity 0.94
01:32:39 at this point so yeah the um i think that's a worthy talking point when trying to funnel back
01:32:48 to people um the the thing with a lot of these bills is uh i'll leave you with this kind of one
01:32:56 this one thought um there are people that are comfortable with bills because their team is in
01:33:04 power right now but what they should consider is okay well the power to okay disclose or like if
01:33:14 cesus can come in and um get all the metadata and or subscriber data or if they can if they've got
01:33:22 that level of control and the liberals are no longer in power and at the federal level and what
01:33:28 what happens if the conservatives are in and they're they hate the conservatives they don't
01:33:32 trust the conservatives so they've given government a huge amount of power that they're only comfortable
01:33:38 with because they think their friends are in power right now so then we should ask would you trust
01:33:46 your enemies with that power and so if you don't trust your enemies then and you can't guarantee
01:33:55 that the people that have your best interest will always be in power then that rule that power should
01:34:02 not be we should not be allowing that to take hold at all absolutely absolutely so any closing
01:34:11 remarks james because i think you're going to uh step up are you yeah the uh i think well i i'm
01:34:18 glad you uh reached out and it's great to have a chat tonight and yeah um the we'll do it again
01:34:24 yeah like it's it's getting interesting but it really comes down to this is the campaigning
01:34:30 part of it this is us reaching out to friends and family this is us just having better conversations
01:34:35 and there's a lot of work ahead of us
01:34:37 and we've got to keep our heads level.
01:34:40 There's going to be a lot of moments
01:34:41 that are going to feel grim.
01:34:43 They're going to feel demoralizing.
01:34:45 It's going to be like attack after attack
01:34:48 after like just smears and just media stories.
01:34:52 And your favorite hero in the Independence movies
01:34:56 is going to be,
01:34:57 there's going to be a hit piece against them.
01:34:58 It doesn't matter how squeaky clean they are.
01:35:01 They are going to demonize everybody.
01:35:05 Absolutely, it's going to be a bumpy ride
01:35:07 It's going to be a bumpy ride, absolutely
01:35:09 Well, thank you very much, James
01:35:11 And I want to thank PJ who had to leave just earlier
01:35:16 And I want everybody to thank everybody for tuning in
01:35:21 On James' channel, my channel, and PJ's channel as well
01:35:25 Thank you very much for tuning in
01:35:27 We're definitely going to do it again for sure
01:35:29 And we'll talk soon in the next one
01:35:33 also next week
01:35:35 I will be streaming
01:35:36 the two
01:35:37 two
01:35:37 two independence
01:35:39 events
01:35:39 from
01:35:40 from
01:35:41 LexTalk Alberta
01:35:43 so the streaming
01:35:44 links will be done
01:35:46 will be generated
01:35:46 soon
01:35:47 and thanks very much
01:35:48 for tuning in
01:35:49 thanks for the super
01:35:50 chats from all the
01:35:51 channels
01:35:51 I know PJ
01:35:52 has some
01:35:52 I had some
01:35:53 and thanks for the
01:35:55 comments
01:35:55 and thanks for
01:35:57 coming in
01:35:58 have a good one
01:35:58 alright we'll see you
01:36:00 in the next one
01:36:03 Thank you.
01:36:33 Thank you.