The Critical Compass Podcast - Independence Talk with PJ The Belt & the Freedom Calendar

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00:12:44.460 hello ladies and gentlemen

00:12:47.560 hope you're doing fantastic today

00:12:49.560 it's finally working

00:12:51.760 sorry for guys

00:12:53.880 we have some technical issues

00:12:55.740 we have to deal with

00:12:56.940 make sure that James is streaming

00:12:59.940 PJ is streaming and myself

00:13:01.900 are streaming as well so

00:13:03.980 thank you very much for tuning in

00:13:06.380 I hope you're doing fantastic how you guys

00:13:08.220 doing over there

00:13:09.240 pretty good it's great to be

00:13:12.320 on I know we keep on seeing

00:13:14.240 each other at different events but this is the

00:13:16.280 first time we've collaborated

00:13:17.860 on stream

00:13:18.860 there's a little bit of echo

00:13:21.980 on the stream

00:13:22.660 I can hear myself

00:13:24.880 that's probably my

00:13:28.080 sound on my end is very powerful

00:13:29.900 on my end should be better now i have um echo cancellation activated and i can still hear

00:13:38.980 myself for some reason uh maybe double check if one of your if you're watching one of the streams

00:13:44.480 you might have to mute one of them oh that is hold on that's probably why i'm 100 isolated

00:13:54.580 the people on the audience don't hear any echo i think should be good

00:13:58.280 okay

00:14:00.800 also I'm frozen can you see me

00:14:03.360 I think you're frozen

00:14:06.040 that's weird

00:14:07.180 are you on Chrome or are you on Firefox

00:14:12.000 because Chrome has

00:14:13.200 okay Chrome has this weird

00:14:15.600 looking at freezing webcams

00:14:17.980 for some reason

00:14:18.840 so

00:14:19.700 okay

00:14:22.560 sorry for that

00:14:24.340 that's what I meant by technical issues

00:14:27.120 so no echo there

00:14:29.080 so that's good

00:14:29.820 well I just want to see

00:14:31.260 what you guys are watching from

00:14:32.540 I see there's some people

00:14:33.980 I want to see

00:14:36.360 what you guys are watching from

00:14:38.120 I see people from

00:14:39.120 Northwest Montana

00:14:40.580 Lori Jean says

00:14:43.260 are you on

00:14:44.580 Roll Locals right now?

00:14:46.280 yes in fact

00:14:47.200 this is my first video

00:14:48.540 on Locals

00:14:50.280 so basically

00:14:52.120 I've subscribed to Locals

00:14:53.880 just about last week

00:14:56.100 yesterday I was doing some testing

00:14:58.320 on my own stream, everything's okay

00:15:00.140 and it looks pretty stable

00:15:02.380 because there are many

00:15:04.460 ways, because StreamYard

00:15:06.540 doesn't

00:15:07.020 actually send this stream, I have to

00:15:10.440 use another platform called Rumble

00:15:12.440 Studio to do that, which is

00:15:14.100 native with

00:15:15.460 locals, they're essentially the same

00:15:18.360 company, which is kind of cool

00:15:19.760 but

00:15:22.160 yeah, so locals should be fine

00:15:24.340 so that was very interesting to see

00:15:26.760 so yeah, I'm trying to be

00:15:28.460 on many platforms as possible

00:15:30.440 which is great

00:15:31.500 I think the other guys

00:15:34.500 are going to come soon

00:15:35.540 so let's talk to this event

00:15:37.600 so this is the first event of a series of

00:15:40.260 collaboration events called

00:15:42.020 the Majestic Show

00:15:43.580 if you are

00:15:45.160 oh, I think PJ is coming back

00:15:48.100 are you back?

00:15:49.480 I think I am, I still have Echo man

00:15:52.140 I wonder if I should close

00:15:53.820 my end of the stream, or will that

00:15:55.940 kill my page?

00:15:57.400 No, that should be good.

00:15:59.780 So I can close it?

00:16:02.040 Okay, so that might be what the issue is.

00:16:03.760 Let me close it.

00:16:05.400 Am I still there?

00:16:07.460 Yeah, you're there.

00:16:09.040 Okay, awesome. Alright, sorry about that,

00:16:11.620 everybody. My apologies.

00:16:13.920 You know, when we talk about technical

00:16:15.600 issues, this is what we're referring to.

00:16:17.320 I think we all

00:16:19.500 have our areas of expertise.

00:16:21.100 Mine is technical and killing

00:16:23.100 trolls for the people it's being charming i'm not charming at all i'm like a very dry person to talk

00:16:28.860 to and and by the way joseph why i know that some people are being a little put off when they say 0.94

00:16:34.400 oh max you're i want to say hello when you're doing your your streams but you're so dry you

00:16:39.600 don't say hello well because i'm running cables guys the man is a technician he's got all the

00:16:45.840 all the million things going on at one time and that is totally not my expertise man totally yeah

00:16:51.300 Yeah, absolutely.

00:16:51.940 Couldn't do that.

00:16:53.140 Absolutely.

00:16:54.240 So I'm just going to wait until Mr. James from Critical Compass is going to join us.

00:17:00.240 So what happened to play today?

00:17:01.840 What you got, PJ?

00:17:03.660 What are you going to talk about?

00:17:05.080 Hey, man, we got Alberta Independence.

00:17:06.980 There's a heck of a lot going on out here in Alberta.

00:17:09.300 Heck of a lot.

00:17:10.360 Like, you can't keep up with the news.

00:17:13.240 Like, I'm out at work, and I hear it at 5 a.m. when I wake up on the radio.

00:17:18.840 They're talking about Alberta.

00:17:19.820 uh lunchtime news they're talking about alberta mainstream media can't have enough about alberta

00:17:26.680 i mean they're talking about it in a negative light mostly uh when it comes to alberta

00:17:32.380 independent supporters what i like to call alberta patriots because that is what they are

00:17:36.700 they're patriots these are people fighting for the future of their children not unlike every

00:17:41.920 other patriot group before that is trying to fight for the freedom uh for future generations

00:17:48.540 And yeah, they're just the attention is insane. And it's not just in Alberta. It's all over. It's national, national attention. And the latest thing we have, as many of you watching know at this point, is that some unelected judge judges, unelected liberal appointed judge decided that we as Albertans don't get a say in our own future.

00:18:13.940 and that is there's plenty of subject matter then man there are so many wrong uh so many wrong things

00:18:20.100 so many things that are wrong with that decision that we can talk about it all night

00:18:24.680 when i was taught yesterday i have an interview with john bolton just foy john bolton i have it

00:18:31.100 on my show and we were discussing those and we were discussing about what the future is going to

00:18:36.700 be for the petition because with those respect i mean we have volunteers that were freezing

00:18:42.580 cold outside and I think

00:18:45.300 even in May we have some snow

00:18:47.400 outside, climate boiling

00:18:48.680 and

00:18:49.780 because of their, I mean

00:18:52.640 and also what happens is that this

00:18:55.160 court decision kind of

00:18:57.040 nullifies the hard work of

00:18:59.280 thousands of volunteers

00:19:00.720 dancers or canvassers, right?

00:19:03.660 But I believe, and this is something

00:19:05.340 that I was talking with John Bolton

00:19:07.380 is that Daniel Smith

00:19:09.300 right now, she's in a corner position

00:19:11.880 She can't say no to a referendum question. 0.99

00:19:15.340 She can't because otherwise that will be political suicide for her.

00:19:19.240 Basically, she will be essentially Jason Kenney version 2.0, in a sense.

00:19:27.100 That's the way I see things.

00:19:29.000 At the same time, she has about, I don't know what's the percentage,

00:19:33.100 but if you look at the percentage of people who are in favor of independence

00:19:37.480 within the United Conservative Party,

00:19:39.620 Shameless plug, get your UCP membership, by the way.

00:19:43.340 Do it. 1.00

00:19:44.020 Do it.

00:19:44.700 It's $10.

00:19:46.240 Nobody is going to – anybody can afford to pay $10 to do that.

00:19:52.260 I think that during the AGM here, and I think it's going to be in Calgary,

00:19:56.220 it's going to be a very important decision.

00:19:58.620 It's going to be a very decisive moment in Alberta history.

00:20:01.400 I can't wait.

00:20:02.800 So, absolutely.

00:20:03.920 And November comes quick.

00:20:05.520 It's in November, isn't it?

00:20:06.940 The annual general meeting, right?

00:20:09.020 Usually it's in November. They usually do that at either the beginning of November or the end of November, but it's in November usually.

00:20:20.080 Oh, yeah. Anybody who can get that $10 and get that membership.

00:20:26.800 I think my wife got us two memberships. It must have been sometime in this, I don't know, last year sometime.

00:20:34.220 I don't know if we got to renew it. She might have gotten a multi-year one, so I don't remember, but I did get one.

00:20:39.020 I don't I don't participate as much as you guys may think that I do.

00:20:43.440 I don't participate a lot in political things until now when I started talking about Alberta independence after realizing that there is just no future for true conservatives in this country anymore, particularly Alberta conservatives.

00:20:59.240 There just isn't a future in Canada. And so once Pierre lost, that is when I started this channel, as many of you know, and I just started talking in support for Alberta independence.

00:21:09.940 And it was exactly April, late April of last year when Pierre lost that. I just said, OK, it's time for Alberta to separate.

00:21:17.040 So get your UCP membership, get your voice heard.

00:21:22.480 Why is that important?

00:21:23.940 Well, we put pressure on those who are governing, the governing party,

00:21:28.920 to honor the desire of Albertans to have a referendum come October.

00:21:37.980 And I think it's, I was looking at the price.

00:21:41.420 Apparently, it's $20 for the membership.

00:21:48.140 Oh, I think James came back online.

00:21:50.280 Hello, affordable.

00:21:51.740 James, are you online?

00:21:54.100 Can you hear me?

00:21:55.180 I'm back.

00:21:56.200 There you are.

00:21:57.440 The man is back.

00:21:59.740 Everything stopped.

00:22:00.880 Like, zero browsers were detecting cameras.

00:22:03.480 I'm like, okay, restart.

00:22:04.600 Oh, yeah.

00:22:04.960 I have this problem with Google, with Opera, which is a common-based browser.

00:22:11.420 The camera just died, so I used Firefox instead, just FOI.

00:22:16.080 So, yeah, absolutely.

00:22:17.320 So we were talking about the membership at the UCP.

00:22:23.300 That's going to be one of the steps to basically continue the plan of building the independence.

00:22:32.240 I think that Mitch Investor, even on my show, he was very clear that we need to get involved at the UCP level, right?

00:22:38.680 because um i don't know if you touched on this but there's the citizen initiative act which

00:22:43.200 empowers people to do a petition for referendum but there's the referendum act and the government

00:22:49.700 can just hold a any referendum if they think that's what the people want so we have 700 000

00:22:56.820 people in some form or another who said let's have a referendum if you count the forever canadian

00:23:03.480 petition and uh the state free alberta petition so what's stopping the ucp from holding a referendum

00:23:11.560 right now they're they're kind of delaying this process during my at one time last year i have

00:23:18.200 an interview with uh the candidates who are going to uh to become you know during the leadership

00:23:26.200 reps at the ucp last year um i have some interviews with some people including rob smith who is the

00:23:33.240 current president he was re-elected as the current as the president of the united conservative party

00:23:38.840 and we had some discussions on alberta independence so basically at the ucp they have two versions of

00:23:45.880 looking at things one is what's going to happen after a successful referendum in october what's

00:23:54.200 going to be the position at the ucp right should they become a independence party or should they

00:24:01.580 honor the will of the people because

00:24:03.580 effectively that's their vision

00:24:05.580 they say the will of the people let's say

00:24:07.680 don't want Alberta to separate

00:24:09.640 right that's going to be 1.00

00:24:11.700 the default party status but this is

00:24:13.680 I can't speak on behalf of UCP

00:24:15.820 it's just that there are some

00:24:17.600 directions that UCP is most likely

00:24:19.520 going to do versus

00:24:21.500 the position of

00:24:22.920 versus the government's position

00:24:25.380 they are completely different and this

00:24:27.560 is something that I need to understand

00:24:29.380 in order to influence government you need to get involved politically how to do that you get a ucp

00:24:37.040 and it happens every single time there is an annual journal meeting every time there's an

00:24:45.240 egm at the last two or three months people get membership cards just to influence the party into

00:24:53.460 a direction that we probably

00:24:55.380 don't want so those

00:24:57.200 you know that's why

00:24:58.960 getting involved is so important

00:25:00.920 so I think it's 20 bucks I've heard in the comments

00:25:03.320 it's 20 bucks for to get the membership

00:25:05.240 now I thought it was 10 bucks

00:25:07.500 back in the day it was 10

00:25:08.480 but it's something that can be

00:25:11.340 affordable right 0.96

00:25:12.260 damn inflation man 0.99

00:25:14.420 inflation 0.99

00:25:15.760 if that $10 difference is like

00:25:19.040 oh no I guess this referendum

00:25:21.060 isn't important enough

00:25:22.140 not it's not it's not that important yeah ten dollars that's it that's where i draw the line

00:25:26.440 damn twenty dollars i'm not i don't care about the future no guys definitely get your um get your if

00:25:32.560 you can please do get your ucp membership if you're an alberta resident it's going to be 0.98

00:25:38.420 critical uh for you to have that um just touching on your point max you just got a member the

00:25:46.740 government is not the party and the party is not the government, but they're obviously

00:25:51.960 intertwined. They're obviously very close. Like the party is who chooses who the premier is going

00:25:59.260 to be if the party is the governing party. We all know what happened to Jason Kenney back in what

00:26:05.820 was it 2021, 2022. He wasn't listening to the membership of the party and that costed him his

00:26:12.680 job in government so in another thing that james mentioned that is super critical here very

00:26:19.280 important is the fact that there's the citizens initiative petition right there's that avenue to

00:26:26.080 get a referendum which is proving very difficult because we have the cars are stacked against us

00:26:31.820 the entire system is against alberta patriots but then there's also the referendum act premier

00:26:38.560 Daniel Smith can, at her discretion, her discretion only, obviously she has to consult with her

00:26:44.380 cabinet, but at her discretion at the end of the day, she can call a referendum. And we have over

00:26:49.120 700,000 people, despite what Lucas Suck is saying, that Forever Canadian wasn't trying to get a

00:26:56.520 referendum. His paperwork that he signed, his petition says that he wants a referendum. Just

00:27:03.620 with his specific question that is framed as a pro-Canada question.

00:27:08.460 Still, though, he was asking for a referendum.

00:27:11.300 So over 700,000 Albertans have asked for a referendum.

00:27:14.760 And more importantly, and I'm going to finish with this,

00:27:16.920 more importantly, Danielle's base, she knows well over 50%.

00:27:21.040 I believe the lowest estimate is 57% of her base supports independence.

00:27:26.120 So in my opinion, it will end up having to call a referendum 1.00

00:27:30.000 or it might end up doing her job.

00:27:32.020 And that's what I was saying.

00:27:34.280 That's what I was discussing with John Bolton last night

00:27:37.100 is that whether we have those judges

00:27:40.820 doing their funny games and everything,

00:27:43.920 it's not going to change the outcome

00:27:45.640 that the likelihood for us to have a referendum

00:27:48.220 on October 19 is pretty high.

00:27:51.460 She's cornered on both ends.

00:27:53.220 She's cornered by the Federalist Conservatives,

00:27:56.620 and she's also cornered by the Independents.

00:27:59.800 she's in a very tough

00:28:02.600 position right now and 0.94

00:28:03.980 that's what also a point

00:28:06.760 that Corey Morgan was

00:28:08.660 basically saying it's like hey

00:28:10.180 she is in a very tough position because

00:28:12.640 if she refuses to 0.99

00:28:14.700 do that then 0.98

00:28:16.320 something that will happen is that she will be 1.00

00:28:18.700 single

00:28:19.800 what's it say

00:28:21.620 she will be

00:28:24.420 Jason Kane 8

00:28:25.820 absolutely

00:28:26.980 oh unacceptable finish comes in my show

00:28:30.040 $20 super shot

00:28:31.360 glad to see a new show on YouTube

00:28:34.380 well thanks very much

00:28:35.600 and if you want to come let me know

00:28:37.020 that would be good

00:28:37.820 for those who didn't know

00:28:42.080 what the name of the show is called

00:28:43.940 The Majestic Show

00:28:45.360 it's because of the

00:28:46.680 I just referred to from The Majestic 12

00:28:49.880 so this is like

00:28:51.220 a secret

00:28:53.040 project

00:28:55.580 from the government to spy on UFOs and stuff.

00:28:59.500 I was like, that would be good to use that one.

00:29:01.480 So, I don't know.

00:29:02.960 I don't keep it that way majestic.

00:29:04.660 So, that was good.

00:29:05.640 So, yeah, that's what happens.

00:29:07.000 And I think that people are very close

00:29:10.780 to getting the referendum done.

00:29:13.940 But one of the things I was talking with John Bolton,

00:29:16.800 and I think even Derek Smith to some point,

00:29:20.060 is that we need to get to the cities,

00:29:22.300 get the message to the cities.

00:29:23.920 And I want to touch on that specifically.

00:29:26.740 What are the things that can be done to improve the messaging and getting the message out or getting the vote out in the cities?

00:29:36.460 You want to go, James?

00:29:37.940 Yeah.

00:29:39.000 So I think the cities are tricky because they're in a bubble, which is different than the rule bubble.

00:29:45.200 And I think a lot of the messaging right now has been, it's been focused more on the rule side of things.

00:29:51.420 And that's where the majority of the supporters and the people who signed the petition came from.

00:29:57.360 So the cities, they are, I think there's a lot of people, there's like still a, if you sum up everybody in Alberta, there's still a third who will never vote, a third who will, that are like somewhat on the fence, who may consider it.

00:30:15.740 And then there's a third that is fully convinced of independence.

00:30:21.220 So it's that middle third of that.

00:30:23.380 I think the efforts are best focused on because if somebody is a public sector worker, they're

00:30:29.080 an NDP supporter, they're a collectivist, they trust in our institutions, the amount

00:30:35.360 of effort that you would need for you're undoing a worldview and that doesn't happen very quickly.

00:30:42.020 So those people are that's a waste of time.

00:30:44.760 But it's those people who know that something's off. They know that Canada doesn't feel the same. And maybe they don't think the NDP is doing a good job in Alberta. Maybe they don't trust the UCP. Maybe they're only lukewarm about the liberals. It depends. So that's an in for conversation.

00:31:05.400 You could say, this is an opportunity for us to rewrite and build a new constitution that serves everybody.

00:31:13.260 So the opportunity factor, in addition to the economic side of things, that's maybe two ways that you could start connecting with some of these people.

00:31:25.720 Oh, yeah.

00:31:27.060 What about the people who are, if you look at the maps, I'm going to show you the map of Edmonton so people understand.

00:31:33.860 I just want to add a quick thing to what James said, if that's okay, Max.

00:31:37.480 Sure, sure, sure.

00:31:39.880 Absolutely.

00:31:40.660 The cities are going to be the most challenging part of this.

00:31:43.720 Rural Albertans tend to be more conservative, generally speaking.

00:31:47.260 And I think that's a reality in most of the world.

00:31:50.180 Rural people tend to be more conservative. 0.97

00:31:52.820 Just, I think, a virtue of the lifestyle, the way they live, their beliefs, the culture. 0.95

00:31:59.720 People who are in the city normally are more government employees.

00:32:03.860 more public sector jobs

00:32:07.160 more unions, more unionized

00:32:09.260 but that doesn't mean that there aren't

00:32:11.100 people. I mean, do you guys remember

00:32:12.940 what happened in Edmonton?

00:32:15.920 The lines

00:32:17.060 those legendary lines

00:32:18.640 and I think weather was like minus 10

00:32:21.040 minus 15 that day

00:32:22.400 it was pretty cold

00:32:23.940 and there were lines as far as the eye could see

00:32:27.040 Rumble Park in Edmonton

00:32:28.660 which I had the privilege of being there

00:32:30.760 and live streaming 0.73

00:32:32.140 and people were falling on their butts

00:32:35.440 because the roadways, I mean, the walkways

00:32:37.820 were literally icy as heck

00:32:39.580 and there were still thousands

00:32:42.120 and I mean thousands of people there.

00:32:44.580 I remember seeing this older lady. 0.95

00:32:46.200 She was walking literally with a walker, 0.97

00:32:48.760 with a mobility assistance

00:32:50.980 and she was there

00:32:52.800 and I remember asking her like,

00:32:54.780 ma'am, why are you here?

00:32:56.220 And she said that, oh, there you go.

00:32:59.060 You got, there it is.

00:33:00.260 The footage speaks for itself.

00:33:01.760 So, and this is Edmonton, which is, one could argue, the most liberal city in all of Alberta, the most leftist city in all of Alberta. But another thing that I want to say is that while we can't underestimate the fact that there is a lot of support for the Remain side in the cities, we also have to realize that the mainstream media is always going to underestimate the support for independence.

00:33:28.880 Heck, they underestimated support for Pierre Poliev everywhere.

00:33:33.440 Are they not going to underestimate support for people who are trying to break the country apart?

00:33:38.800 Look at the poll that the Rebel News recently commissioned.

00:33:42.980 I don't know if you guys are aware of that.

00:33:45.280 46% of First Nations support, respondents support Alberta independence.

00:33:53.820 I think that's the highest level poll we've ever heard of or seen.

00:33:58.880 And they're not reporting on that.

00:34:02.420 Just picked up an article from CTV News, guys.

00:34:05.320 I'm just going to share this for a second.

00:34:07.520 So if you look closely at the title, just the title,

00:34:14.960 Alberta separatists, or not separatists, whatever,

00:34:18.080 submit thousands of signatures on referendum petition.

00:34:20.880 So when you look at this, thousands of signatures,

00:34:23.100 anywhere from 2,000 to 700,000, it's not clear, right?

00:34:28.540 And you have to go all the way down and then you have the numbers like Elections Alberta still has converted a number of signatures, but Mitch is saying we have 300,000. It's more like 300 and 1,620 from my understanding.

00:34:42.900 But that's the point is that even the mainstream media right now is actively trying to deceive future voters on Alberta independence.

00:34:55.560 And that's a trend that's going to continue from now on and now on.

00:34:59.840 It's going to escalate very hard.

00:35:03.260 And I don't think that we need to underestimate that people who are living in the city specifically, they get all the information from Instagram media sources and left-leaning websites.

00:35:17.420 One of the things, I want to show you this for a second, because this is the map of Edmonton.

00:35:22.620 Obviously, I'm in Edmonton, so I don't hide anything against it.

00:35:26.560 But if you look at the map of Edmonton, presentation mode.

00:35:30.660 So this is Edmonton, guys.

00:35:32.040 You see the dawn out of Edmonton?

00:35:34.380 If there's any, and even at the provincial election, all the votes happen around Edmonton.

00:35:41.480 Like Shelwell Parks, they got a UCP MLA.

00:35:44.740 Beaumont, they got a Converse Conservative MLA.

00:35:47.920 Le Duc, they have a Conservative MLA.

00:35:49.620 But in the Edmonton area, it's pretty much NDP.

00:35:52.620 NDP, yep.

00:35:54.120 Yeah, that's pretty much NDP.

00:35:55.620 So what we need to do, I think, this is something that I was talking with Mr. Vester about this, is that we will need to change messaging for the cities.

00:36:06.640 Why do you think that we need to focus on the cities that might be different from rural areas?

00:36:10.940 so potentially even um one way you could phrase things um well there's a thought experiment that

00:36:23.320 i've been that i've been doing and i've been meaning to actually ask more people that if you

00:36:28.460 had 10 years of conservative rule at a federal level and the ndp are in power in alberta

00:36:36.400 would you be willing to consider independence so i'm curious if people are if some of these people

00:36:46.640 that are left-leaning if they're against the principle of independence in any form or if

00:36:54.840 if canada was dominated by conservatives would they think that the last bastion of hope would be a

00:37:02.180 independent NDP Alberta. So that's just a little thought experiment where Mike and I are going to

00:37:11.080 try to ask people that and go out on the streets. So that's one thing we're just trying to do.

00:37:18.480 So you can do different thought experiments or more Socratic messaging. And so one thing that

00:37:28.260 doesn't work with a lot of people that are entrenched is telling them what to believe

00:37:32.660 yep so it's best if you ask leading questions or if somebody feels like well like i i feel

00:37:40.580 strongly about being canadian then you ask them like well what does it mean to be canadian like

00:37:45.740 is it a piece of paper is it values you so you can get them thinking about the identity aspect

00:37:52.340 of it you can ask them about well the nature of confederation and you depending on the person

00:37:59.960 like different these different subsets of topics may be more or less um effective depending on

00:38:06.920 on who it is you'd be surprised about the amount of people that have no idea that alberta's being

00:38:14.200 mistreated they think that people are just complaining about the fact that alberta's

00:38:18.740 been mistreated and without we don't have any facts to back it up they don't know about the

00:38:22.680 inequality in the senate they don't know about the inequality in the uh parliamentary seats

00:38:28.440 they don't know about the equalization payments they don't know about the fact that the there

00:38:33.460 was a little thing called the national energy program during the trudeau years uh trudeau the

00:38:38.400 father they there are so many factors that people are not aware of and they think that it's just

00:38:44.900 opinion but when you reveal the facts back to kind of what james is talking about that it's not

00:38:50.520 easy to convince somebody but it is a lot more i think it's a lot easier to kind of let people

00:38:56.800 convince themselves you just give them the facts and then another thing that james mentioned earlier

00:39:01.380 which i wholeheartedly agree with is that there are i believe a third a third and a third i think

00:39:07.600 And Keith Wilson mentioned that, too.

00:39:11.160 There's the third that is us, Max, James, myself, every Alberta patriot out there, everybody who signed the petition, those people who supported the pendants.

00:39:22.140 We're that 30 percent to 35 percent that the polls keep repeatedly recognizing.

00:39:30.460 Then there's the third that we're never going to convince.

00:39:33.520 And we need to recognize that those people will never be convinced.

00:39:37.600 It's just not going to happen. You're not going to convince an NDPer, highly unlikely, to convince them that an independent conservative Alberta is better for them.

00:39:49.820 You're not going to convince a union member who benefits from the status quo that tearing everything apart and starting from zero to build anew, to build better, to build a more free and prosperous country is a good idea because they benefit from what we have.

00:40:08.800 And then lastly, there's that in between that middle point where those are the convinceables, people who can be convinced, people who are open, sitting on the fence.

00:40:19.460 You can talk to them. And at the end of the day, Max, this referendum is going to be won by those who show up.

00:40:26.720 I hear a lot of people saying, oh, there's five million Albertans. There's no way you're going to get two point two point five million and one.

00:40:34.120 We don't need 2.5 million in one.

00:40:36.560 If a million people show up, we need 500,000 in one.

00:40:42.180 And then that's 50% plus one.

00:40:44.480 It's whoever shows up who wins the referendum.

00:40:47.320 I just want to see some feedback from the people who are watching online.

00:40:50.900 Oh, James is disconnected.

00:40:53.060 He's going to put it back online.

00:40:54.960 Yeah.

00:40:55.580 But I was just looking at the comment section.

00:40:57.840 If you have any comments or any feedback on how to get to the cities, put us on the chat and we can discuss about it.

00:41:06.480 Like there are some comments that are very like, I don't like this comment I'm going to show you.

00:41:13.780 And it was because we need to shy away from that mentality, which is essentially I want to talk about that and actually about this thing.

00:41:20.960 This is a comment I want to show you, but kind of, so basically it said, it's like trying to convince a bunch of ostriches, you know, to talk about the elbows or the elbows off people.

00:41:34.060 I don't like that comment, but I want to ask you, but I want to tell you anyways, because I was essentially somebody who used to, who, when I moved here to Alberta, I never believed in independence. 0.91

00:41:46.300 I thought it was a very stupid idea, to be honest. 0.69

00:41:49.060 and then after starting to go to town hall meetings 0.99

00:41:52.400 and meeting with conservative people

00:41:54.140 that's how I started to

00:41:55.560 change my mind about

00:41:57.660 many aspects of things

00:41:59.260 so

00:42:00.020 what I think

00:42:03.120 the people need to change

00:42:05.120 are the federalist conservatives

00:42:07.260 the hardcore liberals

00:42:10.180 or NDPs

00:42:11.600 are essentially the 30%

00:42:13.560 that you're probably not going to be able to convince

00:42:16.140 anyways

00:42:16.700 but we can't convince

00:42:19.080 the people in the middle

00:42:20.100 and they're still clinging on the

00:42:23.020 idea of Canada

00:42:24.540 post second world war

00:42:26.340 post second world war

00:42:30.620 so that is I think the issue is

00:42:33.000 once they end

00:42:34.500 how you convince them

00:42:36.360 well you convince them by saying

00:42:38.380 hey the idea of

00:42:40.620 Canada that used to have

00:42:42.020 that we used to know

00:42:44.260 is the one that is not working

00:42:46.620 how can we do those things

00:42:48.780 but everything we've done

00:42:50.280 everything we've tried

00:42:51.320 is not working

00:42:52.920 like changing the Senate

00:42:54.080 insisting on the fact

00:42:56.480 that in order to trigger

00:42:57.900 a constitutional change

00:42:59.600 that requires 7 out of the 10 provinces

00:43:02.940 to agree

00:43:04.300 and to open the Constitution

00:43:06.280 then it goes to the Senate

00:43:08.520 then it goes to the Supreme Court

00:43:10.540 and yada yada yada

00:43:11.800 it's technically impossible

00:43:13.940 you have to believe

00:43:15.660 in unicorn fairy dust

00:43:19.560 in order to do that, right?

00:43:21.440 So the only way feasible

00:43:24.160 that we have to do

00:43:25.720 in order to regain our sovereignty

00:43:27.920 as a nation

00:43:28.780 is by leaving Canada, basically.

00:43:31.600 That's it.

00:43:32.720 That's the only way

00:43:33.800 because we tried everything.

00:43:35.740 And this is what you mentioned, PJ,

00:43:38.040 is that, oh, James came back.

00:43:39.820 I think he...

00:43:41.480 Hello.

00:43:41.760 the uh the streamer doesn't like me today the oh that's we're gonna talk about about other

00:43:50.700 platforms as well which is gonna cool so yeah we're talking about this the um the in bad the

00:43:57.800 ignorance from people like the film who believe don't necessarily believe in independence i i

00:44:03.980 don't i don't i don't i don't like to treat the other people uh who are not in favor of independence 0.97

00:44:10.580 that's stupid it's not my kind of people i often say that they're just all are ill-informed and 0.98

00:44:17.860 when the when you outline the facts and the facts are visible and understandable um what about the 1.00

00:44:25.260 immigrant community in the cities what do you have any strategies or any thoughts about the

00:44:31.840 immigrant community here in the cities and well um i had two two things to touch on is like um

00:44:40.840 one so the oh i i think i'm frozen again oh no yeah it's happening again hear me

00:44:50.320 yeah i can hear you trying to use uh next time trying to use firefox because it always crashes

00:44:56.380 Firefox. I've tried every single browser

00:44:58.420 today. I am going around the world

00:45:00.720 in different...

00:45:03.180 I'm getting... I am

00:45:04.520 trying to increase the diversity

00:45:06.500 of browsers that I'm using.

00:45:08.800 And I've done them all today. 0.82

00:45:10.540 Diversity, Doc, we're strange.

00:45:12.260 We got Chrome, we got Edge,

00:45:14.300 we got Firefox, we got all those

00:45:16.720 things. Dreamyard doesn't like him today.

00:45:18.880 Why does it freeze on

00:45:20.560 the most awkward face?

00:45:24.360 He's blowing a kiss.

00:45:26.380 let's change that um i'll i'll leave you with one thought and then i'll try to restart again

00:45:33.720 um i know so the one thought i had is that uh a lot of people in the cities they are

00:45:40.380 stressed with their lives they are overwhelmed they barely have enough time for all the things

00:45:45.580 that they want to do so they're not thinking about politics so they kind of export a lot of

00:45:49.780 their thinking to somebody else and i think they just casually interact with politics more

00:45:55.460 just through whatever random posts show up on social media and when it comes to canada they're

00:46:01.720 nostalgic for a canada that doesn't really exist anymore yeah for the people who have immigrated

00:46:08.280 they don't have that same nostalgia because they're they're new let it be new within a couple

00:46:14.820 years within five years within 10 years their uh perspective hasn't they have a different

00:46:21.300 perspective because they haven't seen the changes in the same way but i think some of them might be

00:46:28.180 willing to realize that there is a limit to immigration there's a limit to how much we can

00:46:35.800 just print money and pay for these services without actually letting things catch up uh so

00:46:42.700 it depends who you're talking to but i think most people can agree that you can't just print your

00:46:49.760 you can't print your way out of this problem

00:46:52.020 by printing money

00:46:52.980 oh yeah

00:46:55.880 the economy

00:46:57.440 sorry go ahead

00:46:59.140 I'm looking at the comment section

00:47:01.880 this is very interesting

00:47:03.000 and I'm going to pull the comment because

00:47:05.360 this is very interesting

00:47:07.400 and this is something I hear all the time

00:47:10.080 from the immigrant community

00:47:11.520 I want to see

00:47:12.160 I think I lost the comment

00:47:16.080 here

00:47:16.700 it was going so fast for a while it was like crazy crazy crazy but basically saying that

00:47:25.200 basically saying that the people who came here to canada don't necessarily adhere to the idea of

00:47:34.560 of alberta necessarily for example all the people who came here like post 2020 2015 after

00:47:42.780 Justin Trudeau was

00:47:44.500 elected as a prime minister

00:47:47.160 paused, installed as a

00:47:49.220 prime minister and paused

00:47:50.580 basically what

00:47:53.180 happens is that we have

00:47:55.160 this problem where

00:47:57.000 they 0.99

00:47:57.560 came here to Canada

00:48:00.940 and Canada is the country that

00:48:03.440 opened the doors

00:48:04.960 to them, right?

00:48:07.120 So for them

00:48:08.760 the concept of Alberta

00:48:11.040 just the concept of Alberta is not something that they probably know, okay?

00:48:19.080 I think that the people who are in favor of independence,

00:48:22.260 who happen to be immigrants, myself included,

00:48:24.800 if I call myself immigrant at this point,

00:48:28.020 are the people who lived here in Canada for a very long time

00:48:31.820 and saw the difference between 2015 all the way down right now.

00:48:37.000 So I was talking to, the other day, I was talking to a Chinese national, a guy who is from China.

00:48:44.060 He's been here in Canada for 30 years and speaks English with a little bit of an accent.

00:48:50.040 Fine.

00:48:51.320 And when I was talking about Alberta politics, he was completely on fire on Alberta independence.

00:48:56.940 He says that Canada is broken beyond repair.

00:49:00.220 and he said that what happened in China 30 years ago

00:49:04.840 is literally what's happening in Canada right now.

00:49:08.620 I remember a while ago, I think it was in February or March,

00:49:13.360 I was doing a live stream with Jason Levine

00:49:15.700 and there was a lady from China in the back during the Q&A session.

00:49:20.700 She was very emotional when she said,

00:49:23.200 look, you guys have no clue what was happening right now.

00:49:27.780 You have no clue what's happening.

00:49:29.640 You have no clue what's coming down the pipe.

00:49:33.140 I fled communist China, and what's happening in Canada is exactly what happened to China about 30 years ago. 0.55

00:49:41.840 They escaped from that, and now they have the same thing happening in Canada all over again. 0.96

00:49:48.320 So I think that there are immigrants who see the danger, they favor Alberta independence. 0.92

00:49:56.100 They just are not necessarily very vocal about it. 0.95

00:50:00.420 And those who are not in favor of independence, they're probably doing so by sheer ignorance, i.e. the people who moved here in 2015 to talk about independence.

00:50:13.480 They see Canada as the country who opened the doors, but they don't think about the country that doesn't exist.

00:50:24.140 And that's the dangers of a post-national state as it is right now.

00:50:30.420 You touched a very valid point there.

00:50:33.400 There are particularly those immigrants who come from countries that have suffered oppression,

00:50:39.920 who have gone through communist issues, like issues with authoritarianism.

00:50:45.380 i know of a guy from cuba uh who carlos and he uh he he's like yeah alberta needs to

00:50:54.840 alberta needs to get the heck out of canada because he knows what communism looks like

00:50:59.780 and then there's this footage uh this one uh this one clip uh from a gentleman i think he was from

00:51:05.460 venezuela and he said he was waving an alberta flag you remember that clip that i'm talking about

00:51:10.340 I don't know. Yeah, I don't know who recorded it. But this this young man, he's from Venezuela, another country that has suffered under communism, not so much so anymore, because Donald Trump did him a little favor getting rid of Maduro there.

00:51:25.720 But they suffered. They've been suffering under communism for decades and decades.

00:51:31.420 And immigrants that come from countries like that, right, countries where letting government have a little too much power, they will understand what's happening to Canada, particularly if they've been here long enough. 0.98

00:51:42.960 Notice that the immigrants who do support our independence are normally people who've been here long enough. 0.81

00:51:48.160 They've been here for at least 10 years to to see just the decay, just how Canada has been decaying and getting worse and worse, thanks to government, mostly because they're going to blame it on outside factors, the weather, climate boiling across the world is having a war.

00:52:07.360 So that's why there's two million Canadians visiting a food bank every year.

00:52:11.740 No, like, no, that's not what it is.

00:52:14.360 We know exactly what you're doing.

00:52:16.100 You're bringing in way too many people. 1.00

00:52:18.560 And immigrants and minorities are starting to complain, probably more than Caucasians. 0.99

00:52:25.520 People like myself, men of color, like there are way too many people and they're not adapting.

00:52:30.960 They don't speak the language.

00:52:32.040 And there are a lot of us who think that way and who believe that in an independent Alberta that is governed with more common sense and with an actual constitution, unlike the top-down government that we have here in Canada, it would serve its citizens well.

00:52:51.380 where there is immigration, but with measure, with common sense, bringing in people as needed

00:52:58.460 and making sure that the people that were brought in are very well served by a system that gives them the opportunity

00:53:05.240 that those who came before them did have, because those that are coming today, they don't have the opportunities.

00:53:11.200 And then the people that are here also are failing and having less opportunity because they're bringing way too many people.

00:53:18.200 I want to touch on this comment, and this is from Logan Hogg, 6237, and reads,

00:53:25.480 Well, Alberta isn't close to communism. I love you guys, but what exactly are you talking about exactly?

00:53:31.760 And to that respond, to that answer, I would like to basically, if you watch on my channel, like Freedom Calendar,

00:53:38.840 you're going to see all the town halls on Alberta independence.

00:53:41.840 And watch the ones from Mitch Sylvester from the APP slash SFA days.

00:53:47.500 It's not communism in the way that people think about communism, but rather a policy change that is favoring NGOs, is favoring people that you don't necessarily, they have an agenda, right?

00:54:04.020 And that's what's happening right now is that it's not called communism, but it's operating like communists.

00:54:11.180 Because if you call yourself communist, people are not necessarily going to be on board with you.

00:54:18.580 But if you do the same thing as a communist, you're going to see that.

00:54:24.060 For example, Klaus Schwab, before he became the leader of the president of the World Economic Forum,

00:54:37.060 was in fact a Danish politician who claimed to be a democratic socialist, right?

00:54:45.640 What's the NDP right now? New democratic socialist.

00:54:49.500 It's like potato, potato. It's the same thing. They're communists.

00:54:52.720 they just don't call themselves communists that's the thing you like you can you have a pile of

00:54:59.060 of this though it's not just just because historically it was named communism and you

00:55:05.400 have a certain flavor doesn't mean it's going to in 2026 it's not gonna take that same exact

00:55:13.120 recipe so um i i do have one little point to add um so you could describe it as uh technocratic

00:55:22.260 oligarchical uh collectivism is the way that this current form has has manifested so the

00:55:33.760 technocracy side that's centralized control using multiple uh let it be surveillance let it be

00:55:41.520 like a digital currency and these technological levers to try to crack down on people and control

00:55:49.880 how they live their lives how much carbon they're emitting maybe somebody's using too much power

00:55:54.360 maybe somebody eats too much red meat if we gave all the power they would control those things

00:56:00.960 because they know what's best and they believe that in the very core of their essence so that's

00:56:07.460 the that's the technocratic aspect of it the um oligarchical is that's that bureaucracy that's

00:56:15.700 the you've got a ruling managerial class who thinks they have like they they know what is

00:56:23.220 best for other people and that's how they operate and then the collectivism is that's the piece that

00:56:29.560 people normally associate with communism is the redistribution of wealth and i think people don't

00:56:37.320 fully understand where wealth actually comes from it's not a zero-sum game and like you

00:56:45.480 right now people think of canada as like oh you have these robust social services and we often

00:56:54.340 get into a conversation where we think of like well look at sweden and norway and some of these

00:56:58.860 nordic countries and they have robust welfare systems but if you look at how they actually

00:57:04.840 pay for it they empower the private sector in a way that canada does not canada has a larger

00:57:12.440 public sector with the government choosing winners and losers and as soon as you get past 50

00:57:20.600 you are into the communism territory how much in communism i think 50 percent is

00:57:28.040 roughly is it do you know that well and i'll i'll like to add communism isn't the thing

00:57:34.040 that you just wake up one day and suddenly you're wearing a red shirt that says number 50 and your

00:57:39.380 neighbor is number 51 and you're all living in houses that are painted the same color

00:57:43.260 communism takes time and there are there are signs of it an ever-growing government like james just

00:57:51.160 alluded to an ever-growing government that thinks it knows what's best for you what's best for your

00:57:56.120 children a government that thinks they need to feed your kids because they made it so nearly

00:58:00.640 impossible for you to feed your own kids, right? They now have some sort of program,

00:58:06.080 lunch program at the schools when instead of lowering taxes on groceries so that people can

00:58:11.580 afford to feed their own children. A government that determines whether you get to go on a road

00:58:17.660 trip or not because they increase or decrease the price of carbon, you shouldn't be taking a road

00:58:23.320 trip this summer while they fly around and they go everywhere. A government that determines what

00:58:28.820 is proper speech and what is illegal speech and what and what isn't right like controlling your

00:58:34.140 speech is canada headed towards a bigger government bigger government control when it comes to those

00:58:41.620 topics and many others and i believe it is in every single one of those canada's becoming more

00:58:46.320 totalitarian and and to that note what also happens as well oh i think you got a super chat pj that's

00:58:54.060 awesome so thank you yeah you got it you got a 5w super chat super sticker thanks thanks guys

00:59:01.560 so another thing that also happens and this is in regard to the new world order side of things is

00:59:08.460 that we can we have a lot of a lot of people are talking about provincial politics federal politics

00:59:15.220 but almost nobody talks about municipal politics and a lot of what was happening right now like

00:59:21.840 If I'm in Edmonton, the stuff about the bike lanes is what is making people absolutely mad.

00:59:30.200 The infield, like the zoning laws, is absolutely outrageous.

00:59:35.800 Putting houses in the middle of two houses is like insane, right?

00:59:40.140 But why is it that happened?

00:59:42.020 because if you look at the municipal politics,

00:59:46.220 did you know that only 10% of people in Edmonton,

00:59:50.640 the last municipal election, actually voted?

00:59:53.700 10% actually dared to vote.

00:59:57.620 That's crazy.

00:59:58.220 10% relative to a 45, 50% on an average provincial election.

01:00:07.500 And municipal politics, literally what is paying your,

01:00:10.460 Even if you live in an apartment, your apartment monthly payment is going to increase directly because of the municipal taxes.

01:00:23.760 People don't notice.

01:00:25.320 So that's going to be the number one reason to get involved politically, not just politically at the provincial level, federal level, but also municipal.

01:00:37.800 And why is it important?

01:00:39.120 because essentially there are roadblocks by the provincial government

01:00:44.280 or talking provincially here in Alberta

01:00:46.240 that are essentially trying to prevent the meddling of federal politics

01:00:53.220 inside provincial jurisdiction.

01:00:55.660 But another way to bypass it is to corrupt and influence municipal politics.

01:01:03.000 And we're not talking about the city of Edmonton.

01:01:05.860 We're not just talking about Red Deer.

01:01:08.060 but just at the county level, like Sturgeon County, 13 Howland County, Red Deer County,

01:01:14.900 Lacombe County, because that's essentially municipal level.

01:01:19.200 So you need to get involved at the municipal level.

01:01:22.520 It is not normal to have, I know a lady, I don't know if she's watching right now, 0.99

01:01:28.020 but she's very involved at her county, and the counselors absolutely hate her.

01:01:34.940 They despise her because she is absolutely hated by the current county administration because every time there is a dry law, every time something happens, she goes up there and says, no, I disagree. 0.99

01:01:53.980 You're nuts. 1.00

01:01:54.800 You're insane. 1.00

01:01:57.400 Every single time. 0.99

01:02:00.040 But there's one of her in every county.

01:02:03.720 You need to be the second, the third, the fourth, the fifth, and have many people together like this.

01:02:11.140 And once you start to get to that point, then people can actually support you.

01:02:15.400 So start with what's happening at your back door first, because that's what's happening right now.

01:02:21.520 So municipal politics is, I think, more important than provincial politics, to my belief.

01:02:27.700 And that is where a lot of those initiatives, like New World Order initiatives, like net zero, bike lanes, garbage collection, all those things, they all come in.

01:02:44.300 15-minute cities.

01:02:45.760 It's all based at the municipal level, funneled and paid by federal money.

01:02:51.200 The biggest culprit is the Federation of Municipal, the Municipal Council, that's a federally managed association with cities from all over Canada.

01:03:09.200 And they dictate how cities are going to run, including smaller towns.

01:03:14.840 Like, for example, if you are, let's say, let's just spitball in here.

01:03:19.920 Let's say you're in Westlock, or let's say you're in Boyle.

01:03:25.460 Like, Boyle is about 500 people.

01:03:27.920 I'll just give an example here, like trying to, this is just theoretical here.

01:03:32.420 Like, if you take a town like Boyle, Boyle, Alberta,

01:03:36.900 which is on Highway 28 all the way to Edmonton for Mac,

01:03:40.980 if you talk to the people and you ask them, do you want some bike lanes,

01:03:46.640 who's going to go to the bike lanes?

01:03:48.340 those guys are driving pickup trucks at minus 45 diesel trucks they're going to give a care about

01:03:54.820 bike lanes but what will happen if they do put a bike in who's going to use them

01:03:59.380 so one one thing to touch on though is how these ideas propagate um and i i did want to say that

01:04:07.940 like the new world order side of things though it's really good to understand i haven't had much

01:04:14.720 success talking with people who are not subscribed who don't already know about the wef or they think

01:04:23.280 it's a good conference of good ideas and everything it's a hard it's a hard thing to unpack so i

01:04:28.100 usually go a layer deeper into the just the fundamental principles of things but when it

01:04:33.880 comes to um what we're up against is we're actually up against institutional capture because

01:04:40.580 these ideas get spread around and they get adopted because they have uh institutional power

01:04:47.600 in a sense so there's this term called idea laundering where you have like academic journals

01:04:53.640 that are more ideological in nature and they'll put out studies and it'll be passed through peer

01:05:00.860 review without very much um okay yeah with uh it was good to have you pj uh yeah pj is hey pj has

01:05:10.600 to pj has to leave at seven he has a commitment so thank you very much pj we'll continue the show

01:05:15.860 anyways um but yeah essentially yeah go ahead james yeah so um these journals they let it be

01:05:24.980 climate science or gender ideology or any other kind of more grievance study they'll publish this

01:05:32.440 they'll have laxed kind of peer-reviewed processes and then once a couple papers get published on

01:05:38.940 these or the use of bike lanes or use of solar panels other journals will cite all these previous

01:05:45.720 studies and then it's just a circle of them citing each other and now there's a large body of

01:05:53.180 research and a large body of studies that people will point to and they're flawed in some way but

01:06:00.120 when you try to either say like okay well wind and solar panel maybe that's that's not the best

01:06:08.800 for alberta or uh well like are bike lines necessary in this kind of place they will

01:06:15.480 point to a study and then dismiss your argument straight from there um so it gets tricky to

01:06:22.980 unpack these ideas with people because they'll point to the institutions that have already

01:06:27.780 made all these conclusions oh yeah absolutely and if we talk about as the subject of the subject

01:06:33.980 of independence i've seen uh that many of the chiefs that are pushing against albert independence

01:06:41.600 are being paid by the taos foundation which is essentially greenpeace over in uh over steroids

01:06:49.100 basically right so that's a lot of money to influence a lot of people that this is like the

01:06:56.820 george soros type of people you know the george soros type of people they all gravitate into the

01:07:03.740 uh tales foundation so yeah it's in a lot of conversations you'll at some point you will

01:07:12.520 come up and you'll be arguing with the tv or you'll be arguing with this propaganda when you're

01:07:18.520 discussing with people um so this is where if you are going to the fundamental layer like the

01:07:26.500 foundational principles i think sometimes that's effective so when it comes to municipal like

01:07:33.160 municipalities um you would ask them like well how good is our garbage collection how good are

01:07:40.600 our actual services or how good is the water in calgary like you have all these other initiatives

01:07:45.820 that they're putting effort into and a real big dumb question is why are they doing all these

01:07:52.840 other initiatives when they can't even handle basic services yeah so this is from the toronto

01:07:58.700 sun right now first nation chief this is in 2014 guys 2014 okay and by estrell event by the time

01:08:08.300 he wasn't he wasn't with rebel news uh extra event 50 000 g 50 000 received from the taos

01:08:15.740 foundation and you see it's a this is when people talk about political interference you know this is

01:08:22.800 a san francisco that is international yeah interference if for those people san francisco

01:08:30.160 that's like what are what are they doing paying people in alberta to like

01:08:36.420 yeah so this is directly money from the states going to canada and paying people in canada

01:08:45.780 to influence public opinions so by the way we're not paid by donald trump we're not made by

01:08:52.700 platmir putin so joseph away but those folks they get paid by international money in the states in

01:09:00.960 san francisco right so that's where it remained by a new world order is it's not the concept of

01:09:07.860 it's just the lack of sovereignty from political decisions that's what it is basically because like

01:09:15.760 have you ever voted for mass immigration raise your hands if you have voted for race immigration

01:09:22.520 crickets it's not like there's been one policy or one referendum where people said yes we want

01:09:29.920 one million more people in canada yeah absolutely the thais foundation is a george soro group

01:09:38.640 again again alexander so here's a here's a thought when it comes to some of these issues it's

01:09:46.160 how it starts is they'll say well canada we're well off and we gotta extend our arms and we're

01:09:52.400 a welcoming compassionate place therefore we gotta save people with the refugees or

01:09:57.120 our birth rate's too low and we need temporary foreign workers to work these jobs and so it 1.00

01:10:04.140 comes from like this seemingly normal point of view but it kind of gets washed through like

01:10:11.440 well the numbers aren't really reported accurately well because you have actual

01:10:16.120 like you have full immigration you have temporary foreign workers you have temp like permanent

01:10:23.820 residents and then you have people like the refugee side of things and the numbers get a

01:10:30.420 little bit skewed and i think year to year people are like well they it sounds like a reasonable

01:10:37.120 amount but they're not including everybody that is if you factor in everybody that's a lot of strain

01:10:43.360 on like hospitals schools and so that that becomes a unsustainable number but they've made it

01:10:52.240 so politically inconvenient that like you would be you're considered racist if you oppose that

01:10:59.700 because we're supposed to have a hundred percent compassion to a hundred percent of people a hundred

01:11:05.280 percent of the time you got to extend your heart why because we live in canada so that's a lot to

01:11:12.480 undo in some of these conversations but i think more people are starting to realize um we've hit

01:11:18.660 a breaking point and for some some groups of immigrants if they're not the dominant immigrant

01:11:25.220 group i think those people might actually be worried that they'd be outvoted from the interests

01:11:30.960 of other immigrants that do not have their best interests in mind absolutely absolutely so basically

01:11:38.500 i mean basically what it means is that we have to step away we need to step up and tackle those 0.99

01:11:47.600 things the subject of independence why is that people are jumping on the independence stream

01:11:52.640 that much is because of stuff like that like when people are essentially i read i read a i read

01:12:00.140 something about how people are not necessarily backing up provincial uh federal politics right

01:12:06.620 now is because they only see alberta separation as the last straw basically you're essentially

01:12:14.820 cutting the head of this giant hydra called canada or called the new world order system

01:12:21.940 or you know whatever and that is what's happening right now is that by becoming independent you're

01:12:29.400 going to be left behind all those power structures but what kind of worries me is that and this is

01:12:37.320 something that kind of really worries me about open independence uh in a in a very weird way

01:12:42.580 is that we need to make sure that the things that we left Canada from

01:12:48.480 are not going to be implemented in a new Republic of Alberta.

01:12:53.520 If they're coming here, then, well, like, they're coming to Canada

01:12:57.400 because Canada has something distinct and special that wasn't the case

01:13:03.520 where they came from.

01:13:05.740 But if where they came from, like, let's say, let's just take India as an example. 0.84

01:13:10.740 If Canada turns into India, like, well, why do they come to Canada then if it's essentially just like if it loses all sense of being Canada, then why even come here at this point? 0.91

01:13:27.740 because we apparently had something unique and worth worthy of people wanting to leave their 0.97

01:13:36.360 homes and travel thousands of miles to get here so then the question is like well isn't that worth

01:13:46.120 protecting and then if it's not if we're not able to protect it at a Canada wide level

01:13:52.580 So can we protect that pioneering spirit, these foundational values that built Canada, that built Alberta?

01:14:00.940 Can we protect that within Alberta itself?

01:14:03.960 And I think our best shot is within Alberta.

01:14:07.440 Absolutely.

01:14:08.300 There is a conference that will be held in Calgary.

01:14:11.080 I think it's going to be on Saturday.

01:14:12.440 I will be there because I will be there not streaming but just taping the event.

01:14:17.440 They're going to have Leighton Gray, Michael Wagner, and I have a bunch of others.

01:14:22.720 I don't have the list on top of me, but they're going to talk about the Constitutional Convention,

01:14:29.460 a possible Constitutional Conference for Alberta independence.

01:14:33.760 And they're going to have folks like Leighton Gray, Michael Wagner,

01:14:39.740 Green Abraham will be there as well.

01:14:42.280 Green Abraham is a huge theology guy.

01:14:47.280 So that's going to be very interesting to see.

01:14:50.420 So that's going to be very interesting.

01:14:52.540 But one of the topics is that we need to bring Christian values

01:14:56.020 into a new constitutional, into the new constitution.

01:15:01.640 Because if you look at the history of Canada,

01:15:05.200 Canada adopted a multicultural position from Trudeau Senior, 0.90

01:15:10.980 and that is when this country started to fall apart, basically.

01:15:16.600 Now we have those, it's like nothing against immigration, but they were, at that time, they just removed the federal government adopted multiculturalism as the standard instead of Christian values.

01:15:33.260 Yeah, and ultimately, that I've kind of articulated this before, multi-ethnic can work if there's shared values that glue people together.

01:15:44.340 multicultural doesn't work because what you get is enclaves you get pockets you get

01:15:51.220 communities keeping together they speak their own language they have their own values 1.00

01:15:55.520 and then you don't have a glue that you don't have a sense of national identity

01:16:01.380 um and you just have special interest groups competing against other special interests

01:16:08.560 and and they are just that they're voting blocs at that point so there's no shared community other

01:16:16.720 than like other than just the community of those who speak the same language yeah exactly it's like

01:16:25.180 in the states uh the united states of america was known as this bastion of freedom but if you go to

01:16:32.120 any kind of country

01:16:34.600 like if you go to

01:16:36.440 let's say in a place

01:16:38.560 like in a city

01:16:39.480 in states

01:16:41.000 it's a very entrepreneurial place

01:16:43.580 some people have their businesses and everything

01:16:45.540 but you might also have

01:16:48.100 the Greek guy

01:16:50.860 or the Iranian guy

01:16:52.820 or the Pakistani guy

01:16:54.240 having a business and hiring people

01:16:56.700 not imposing his values

01:17:00.040 but he was running a business

01:17:01.400 and he's passing this well to his generations, you know.

01:17:06.980 That's why we need to, I think, do that.

01:17:09.740 But when we have all those people coming from other countries,

01:17:12.760 I won't give you names. 0.90

01:17:14.540 You don't need to behave as your... 1.00

01:17:17.940 You need to behave like Westerners, basically, 1.00

01:17:23.240 and not bringing your ways of doing things, 0.97

01:17:28.200 like from other countries to Canada.

01:17:30.380 It is not normal to see some people littering garbage on the driveway

01:17:38.120 because they were doing this in their country, but in here we do not.

01:17:42.420 That's why we have garbage collection.

01:17:44.920 That's why we do things in a certain way.

01:17:47.400 If you bring your way of doing things here in Alberta or in Canada,

01:17:52.560 people don't necessarily like it.

01:17:55.000 What do you think of that?

01:17:56.640 Well, there's a simple...

01:17:58.580 That's what we mentioned, basically.

01:18:00.180 yeah the uh i wouldn't move to japan and expect them to cater to the way that i live so

01:18:10.980 the thing is if i moved to japan i would be there would be a lot of pressure for me to

01:18:17.300 live like the japanese live and their threshold for calling you a fellow japanese is very high

01:18:25.140 because they've got such a unified culture

01:18:28.900 that they won't just give that label to anybody.

01:18:32.880 So there are some people that maybe they weren't

01:18:36.480 like ethnically Japanese,

01:18:38.220 but they've lived there for 20 years.

01:18:40.260 They speak the language.

01:18:41.780 They're really in touch with the culture.

01:18:44.520 And those people, after a certain amount of time,

01:18:49.380 okay, they will be comfortable.

01:18:51.640 others will be comfortable calling them japanese at that point but the threshold is very high

01:18:58.200 in canada we've lowered the threshold to not include any sort of assimilation absolutely um

01:19:07.400 i think it's worth also differentiating between like immigration in the last

01:19:14.120 five ten years versus immigration in the 80s and 90s i think what the you had more

01:19:22.360 um an entrepreneurs back then you had more um more of the high skilled they really wanted to

01:19:31.880 integrate um even even my grandparents and great-grandparents um i have ukrainian roots

01:19:39.640 and some polish roots as well and they would never they would all like out in public they

01:19:46.800 would always speak english that was one of their rules that like they they made a a huge point to

01:19:54.400 integrate and sure they would go to like poker halls and they would enjoy the some dances and

01:20:01.780 some music and that just to get together and celebrate their culture but they didn't impose

01:20:10.060 their culture on other people that's true um i remember a while ago i was talking those as this

01:20:15.980 lady as the uh as this pharmacy um and she has a clear issue speaking english and and because my 1.00

01:20:28.000 first language is spanish and her default behavior is that if somebody doesn't understand her 0.99

01:20:35.360 she goes back to spanish and i could technically speak spanish with her but i choose not to

01:20:41.980 because what's going to happen next is that she's she's not going to learn the language she is the

01:20:47.880 one who needs to learn english in the first place not me well i think but it's as i mentioned if

01:20:54.820 you go into a country and this is something that one of the comment sections says is like

01:20:59.160 this is something a comment I just saw you like I spot in the comments but basically you need to

01:21:06.680 adapt your country you're going in like when I moved here to Alberta I was basically doing my

01:21:12.580 research as to why as to what Alberta looks like politically and speaking and what kind of motivate

01:21:19.620 me to move west is this deep entrepreneurial spirit that we tend to find in the United States,

01:21:26.080 you know, because in Quebec specifically, if you want to start a business, the government's 0.99

01:21:31.360 going to sue your ass. It's going to be this, it's this, it's this. It's not, they have a very, 0.98

01:21:37.020 very, very different cultural structure that we have here in Alberta, at least in Saskatchewan.

01:21:42.960 So when you move to a place, you have to look at what they're actually doing. And it's your

01:21:48.360 responsibility to fit into the culture right and not the other way around

01:21:53.580 yeah and um yeah so that that's a difficult thing to describe well like it's a conversation with a

01:22:06.700 lot of landmines so it takes some skill not to be inflammatory in describing that but it's a worthy

01:22:13.680 thing of like it has to be talked about because if you don't talk about like well what does it

01:22:20.060 actually mean to be canadian at some point we're just going to lose it um if there's no pressure

01:22:25.000 absolutely if there's nothing no incentives to to share these common values um then like well

01:22:34.100 why why called canada at this point like why not just absolutely else yeah absolutely uh i wanted

01:22:43.320 to go to the next subject, we don't mind

01:22:45.340 we're going to talk about another thing

01:22:47.340 that is really going up in the news

01:22:49.400 this is called

01:22:50.340 3,400 to leave Alberta

01:22:53.160 to leave Canada, and that is

01:22:55.060 Bill 22, shall we?

01:22:58.180 Yeah

01:22:58.460 So I was looking at

01:23:01.380 this bill, this piece of legislation

01:23:03.400 and I found this surprisingly

01:23:05.640 interesting

01:23:06.600 summary from Grok, by the way

01:23:09.460 they do a great job

01:23:10.980 I know it's AI, but

01:23:12.600 basically what I found out is that

01:23:15.780 because right now what's happening

01:23:17.660 is that if you look at my

01:23:19.520 I'm going to look at my Twitter feed here

01:23:21.260 I'm just going to share you something

01:23:22.580 I'm going to roll my mark marks

01:23:27.060 and

01:23:27.740 so if you look at this

01:23:30.160 I'm going to share this screen here

01:23:31.520 so if you look at this

01:23:33.400 we have this company called Winscribe

01:23:35.700 that if

01:23:37.380 BLC22 passes

01:23:39.300 they're going to move

01:23:41.280 their headquarters to the united states or another country they're going to pack their bags and leave

01:23:48.680 and signal is doing the same thing for those freedom groups who are using signal

01:23:53.500 this is what happens meta as well too is planning to do the same in many other companies i believe

01:24:00.800 that shopify will do the same so was so so why this is important to talk about it aside that is

01:24:09.500 from is an erosion from freedoms is this part here.

01:24:14.000 So this is a summary that I pulled from Grok.

01:24:17.880 I just said, okay, just give me the key points

01:24:20.200 from Bill 22, and this is the part

01:24:25.460 that it is very interesting, very damaging.

01:24:29.380 It requires certain electronic service providers

01:24:32.140 like cloud providers, telecom communications

01:24:35.560 like Telos Rogers, what have you,

01:24:37.460 send what they call

01:24:39.720 metadata. Metadata is

01:24:41.880 basically the information about

01:24:43.540 the information

01:24:45.160 and that will be stored

01:24:47.480 by the government and

01:24:49.780 cloud providers like Microsoft

01:24:51.560 365, Google Apps

01:24:53.940 and even

01:24:55.560 cloud providers like OVH

01:24:57.800 will have to

01:24:58.460 abide to those legislations.

01:25:02.620 And that's very challenging

01:25:03.800 because

01:25:04.420 Canada by this law is going to lose a lot of jobs in the tech sector

01:25:15.880 because Canada will be seen as this country that no longer supports innovation

01:25:21.180 and Canada will become another shell of a country

01:25:30.000 by becoming another territorial state by requiring those regulations

01:25:34.240 Because if you look at core service providers, and I used to work in IT, so I cannot know those things, I guess.

01:25:40.520 When you say core service providers defined by regulations, big telecoms must meet baseline requirements, that's going to create two issues.

01:25:49.700 One is, okay, so the companies need to implement restrictions by the federal government.

01:25:57.040 Those regulations will definitely going to take time and money for them to comply.

01:26:02.960 and who's going to pay for those things?

01:26:05.940 The customer.

01:26:08.020 So no wonder why your cell phone bill will increase

01:26:11.900 because of those technologies that need to be implemented.

01:26:17.020 So that's what I call a deferred tax

01:26:21.520 because the companies need to comply

01:26:24.560 but they can't afford because that is about,

01:26:27.420 these are about millions and billions of investment

01:26:31.480 to comply with the government

01:26:34.000 and they have to pay it somewhere

01:26:36.220 so that cost will be sent

01:26:38.200 to the customer.

01:26:40.020 Not to mention that

01:26:40.900 countries will, not to mention

01:26:44.020 that companies

01:26:45.840 that's the reason we're living

01:26:48.000 is because they see

01:26:49.900 the writing on the wall, they say

01:26:51.880 no, we're not going to comply with those regulations

01:26:54.220 it's too expensive to run a business in Canada

01:26:56.100 so they're going to move.

01:26:58.220 So what's going to happen?

01:26:59.220 people in tech sector will be laid off again canada's making itself weaker by design so

01:27:09.320 the privacy considerations are one thing but the self like just adding layers of regulation

01:27:15.720 makes canada instantly less competitive and i know the funny thing is they might actually try to

01:27:22.980 they create a problem that's like okay well they're leaving now and they don't like these

01:27:27.340 new regulations and then they might give a subsidy to some so again they're picking the winners and

01:27:33.060 losers so they've created a problem that only they can solve and now they can say like well

01:27:38.660 we've given subsidies and look we kept these we grew these businesses or we grew this sector 0.95

01:27:43.540 but what they really did is just slightly undid 30 percent of the damage that they created through

01:27:51.020 these insane policies yeah absolutely and and that's going to happen is that what will happen

01:27:58.300 is that the companies who are in the market right now like microsoft specifically who has i think

01:28:05.280 three data centers in the country one in quebec city one in toronto and they're building i think

01:28:11.180 they're i think in vancouver they have a new one or something i don't know fully 100 those companies

01:28:16.740 they'll have to, because they have the cash flow, they can afford to implement those regular

01:28:21.620 government regulations. But if you want to use those services, then you have to go by the rules

01:28:28.920 and such and such and such. It will be almost impossible for third parties to actually,

01:28:35.660 or new startups to actually use their infrastructure. It's another way of controlling

01:28:39.900 the market by big factors and that's is going to only allow the big players like microsoft google

01:28:48.260 and all the other guys to compete in a market that's been dominated by just an oligarchy

01:28:53.460 basically that's the way i see things the fine aspect so let's say you have certain regulations

01:28:58.800 and you have a certain threshold of fines like and penalties or whatever if you don't meet certain

01:29:06.240 regulations that again prices out small businesses and prevents so like no small business for a lot

01:29:16.280 of these things they can't handle a lot of like first of all okay well you got to submit this

01:29:21.680 proposal and get this signed off of and have somebody inspect this and um there's already a

01:29:28.140 lot of hurdles to starting a new business and then the cost of that those elements alone is a lot and

01:29:34.480 then the cost of if anything isn't right the cost of fines is enough to tank somebody who's

01:29:41.080 essentially paying for this small business out of their own pocket oh yeah again you are stifling

01:29:46.460 any kind of innovation and like should we be surprised that canada's like our growth per

01:29:53.840 gdp is stagnating compared to any other g7 country like should be no surprise at this point because

01:30:00.680 of all these self-imposed rules and regulations.

01:30:07.140 And as I was going through that Bill C-22, because I spent roughly a week trying to look

01:30:12.620 at information at this bill, and it's very damaging, along with Bill C-8, Bill C-9, who

01:30:21.660 can put us in jail if we dare to talk about Supreme Leader Carney, you know.

01:30:26.460 so that's gonna be like the fan like the bill sweet 22 will be the nail on the coffin so when

01:30:34.480 you talk about communism like it's happened like in china right now they have what they call the

01:30:39.560 great firewall of china and i know people who are in china right now i talk to them on a daily basis

01:30:45.280 and over there if there's some piece of information that the government doesn't like

01:30:50.800 the screens on the gyms, they go black, right?

01:30:55.120 If you want to go on a website that is not authorized by the government, there are people

01:31:00.080 actually going to your houses and give you your finances or lower your credit score saying,

01:31:05.080 hey, you can't go on a website.

01:31:07.140 This is forbidden, yada, yada, yada.

01:31:09.640 There's the fines going to cost you.

01:31:11.400 This is going to lower your credit score.

01:31:13.280 That's how they operate.

01:31:14.240 So by allowing this framework is, by this framework allows guys like Cisco, because all the network infrastructure in China is owned by Cisco, they got a very juicy contract to monopolize the network infrastructure management in China via China Telecom.

01:31:35.420 So it's going to only create, as you said, James, only allow a certain, like only a few players in the market to operate.

01:31:48.580 That's why you have the bigger players like Videotron, TELUS, also buying all those small service providers.

01:31:57.360 I believe TELUS just purchased a very local provider called Onet and Alts.

01:32:05.020 And in Quebec, Videotron just purchased like a dozen of independent cable providers, right?

01:32:14.400 Rogers was recently purchased Shaw. 0.99

01:32:16.860 So they're trying to get all this power into the hands of probably a handful of telecom companies because they have the cap to implement those idiotic, insane regulations. 0.99

01:32:30.820 yeah it's uh this is not this is you can't regulate yourself to prosperity 0.94

01:32:39.400 at this point so yeah the um i think that's a worthy talking point when trying to funnel back

01:32:48.160 to people um the the thing with a lot of these bills is uh i'll leave you with this kind of one

01:32:56.700 this one thought um there are people that are comfortable with bills because their team is in

01:33:04.460 power right now but what they should consider is okay well the power to okay disclose or like if

01:33:14.180 cesus can come in and um get all the metadata and or subscriber data or if they can if they've got

01:33:22.520 that level of control and the liberals are no longer in power and at the federal level and what

01:33:28.420 what happens if the conservatives are in and they're they hate the conservatives they don't

01:33:32.260 trust the conservatives so they've given government a huge amount of power that they're only comfortable

01:33:38.160 with because they think their friends are in power right now so then we should ask would you trust

01:33:46.080 your enemies with that power and so if you don't trust your enemies then and you can't guarantee

01:33:55.280 that the people that have your best interest will always be in power then that rule that power should

01:34:02.320 not be we should not be allowing that to take hold at all absolutely absolutely so any closing

01:34:11.160 remarks james because i think you're going to uh step up are you yeah the uh i think well i i'm

01:34:18.640 glad you uh reached out and it's great to have a chat tonight and yeah um the we'll do it again

01:34:24.840 yeah like it's it's getting interesting but it really comes down to this is the campaigning

01:34:30.480 part of it this is us reaching out to friends and family this is us just having better conversations

01:34:35.860 and there's a lot of work ahead of us

01:34:37.760 and we've got to keep our heads level.

01:34:40.340 There's going to be a lot of moments

01:34:41.780 that are going to feel grim.

01:34:43.800 They're going to feel demoralizing.

01:34:45.720 It's going to be like attack after attack

01:34:48.460 after like just smears and just media stories.

01:34:52.480 And your favorite hero in the Independence movies

01:34:56.400 is going to be,

01:34:57.140 there's going to be a hit piece against them.

01:34:58.880 It doesn't matter how squeaky clean they are.

01:35:01.580 They are going to demonize everybody.

01:35:05.240 Absolutely, it's going to be a bumpy ride

01:35:07.480 It's going to be a bumpy ride, absolutely

01:35:09.200 Well, thank you very much, James

01:35:11.100 And I want to thank PJ who had to leave just earlier

01:35:16.240 And I want everybody to thank everybody for tuning in

01:35:21.460 On James' channel, my channel, and PJ's channel as well

01:35:25.900 Thank you very much for tuning in

01:35:27.300 We're definitely going to do it again for sure

01:35:29.540 And we'll talk soon in the next one

01:35:33.620 also next week

01:35:35.180 I will be streaming

01:35:36.000 the two

01:35:37.080 two

01:35:37.560 two independence

01:35:39.180 events

01:35:39.940 from

01:35:40.560 from

01:35:41.560 LexTalk Alberta

01:35:43.520 so the streaming

01:35:44.960 links will be done

01:35:46.000 will be generated

01:35:46.760 soon

01:35:47.220 and thanks very much

01:35:48.960 for tuning in

01:35:49.420 thanks for the super

01:35:50.020 chats from all the

01:35:51.060 channels

01:35:51.500 I know PJ

01:35:52.180 has some

01:35:52.860 I had some

01:35:53.460 and thanks for the

01:35:55.340 comments

01:35:55.780 and thanks for

01:35:57.600 coming in

01:35:58.220 have a good one

01:35:58.920 alright we'll see you

01:36:00.540 in the next one

01:36:03.620 Thank you.

01:36:33.620 Thank you.

The Critical Compass Podcast - May 14, 2026

Independence Talk with PJ The Belt & the Freedom Calendar

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