The Critical Compass Podcast - Israel v. Iran, the Push for Globalism, and America's Obligations ｜ A Critical Compass Discussion

00:00:00.000 Or let's say that Israel does do a severe overreaction to Iran,

00:00:04.900 sends however many munitions and however much, you know,

00:00:08.260 I don't know the terms for these things,

00:00:09.800 but let's just say that something very heavy, very serious gets.

00:00:16.100 With casualties.

00:00:17.360 With lots of casualties.

00:00:18.940 Yeah, that's right.

00:00:19.560 With a much, where we're not talking about it in the way of,

00:00:23.660 yeah, 99% of the drones were destroyed by the Iron Dome,

00:00:27.640 or whatever they call it.

00:00:28.800 Um, how, how can the U.S. just at that point say,

00:00:32.560 well, okay, well now we're staying out of it.

00:00:35.580 Now we're staying out of it when one of our, uh, most,

00:00:39.080 one of our most vocal allies, like that we've been vocally allied to,

00:00:44.640 is now in a hot war with one of our most vocal enemies over the last decades.

00:00:52.900 Like, how, how are they supposed to stay out of it at that point 0.94

00:00:55.620 and not be massive hypocrites on both fronts, right?

00:00:58.800 Hello, welcome to the Critical Compass podcast.

00:01:18.620 Uh, today we're doing a, uh,

00:01:20.460 a quick clip on the recent events between Iran and Israel.

00:01:24.040 Uh, before we do that though,

00:01:26.840 James, uh, said that he had an interesting, uh, problem for me,

00:01:31.320 a philosophical problem.

00:01:32.460 He knows that I'm a, uh, a philosophy major by, by education.

00:01:36.920 And I think he thought this would be cool.

00:01:38.260 So, uh, James, why don't you go ahead and, uh,

00:01:40.700 and present me your, your meme.

00:01:43.600 Well, okay.

00:01:44.160 So we all know the trolley problem.

00:01:46.440 I just thought this is the trolley problem.

00:01:48.140 Yeah, it's okay.

00:01:48.860 Um, first of all, I've got a solution to the, I found a solution online.

00:01:53.620 I didn't come up with this, but I found this.

00:01:55.420 And, uh, there's a third solution.

00:01:57.300 So Mike, how about you describe what the trolley problem is just in simple terms.

00:02:01.560 And then what the, what the dilemma actually is.

00:02:05.400 Okay.

00:02:05.800 So, so the trolley problem is a, is a, uh, a famous, uh, thought experiment of, uh, utilitarian

00:02:12.720 philosophy where maximizing happiness or minimizing harm is, should be your ethical guiding principle,

00:02:19.840 right?

00:02:20.080 So in, in the trolley problem, usually it's presented as, uh, you have the, the choice.

00:02:25.860 Uh, there's a, there's a runaway trolley and you're in control of the, of the track switcher.

00:02:30.240 And on one side of the track, it are, uh, you know, in this case, five strangers.

00:02:36.600 And on the other side of the track is one family member or your wife or your husband or

00:02:41.160 something.

00:02:41.440 So by a strictly utilitarian lens, the proper ethical action should be to divert the trolley

00:02:48.540 onto your loved one, which is obviously much harder to do than five strangers, but that's

00:02:53.840 the ethically correct choice.

00:02:56.440 So there's that, that's the source of the dilemma as I know it.

00:02:59.380 Have I summed it up well for how you're going to blow my mind?

00:03:04.020 Those are the two choices and there is no other choice.

00:03:06.880 You can either, you can either go on the bottom track or the top track.

00:03:10.480 Um, okay.

00:03:11.380 So I learned that there's actually a technique and this has been known for a couple hundred

00:03:15.320 years in the way that rail switches work.

00:03:19.140 You can slip the rail switch.

00:03:21.960 So what you do is as the train passes over the switch, you let the front two wheels go.

00:03:29.360 And then you slip the switch.

00:03:31.280 So the bottom, the back to the back, the backside ends up on the other track.

00:03:38.220 The only problem with this, it is supposed to derail or slow down the train, but depending

00:03:46.500 on how, if it, if it can articulate, if the, the wheels are able to turn, you may have a sliding

00:03:53.140 train that might just mow down and like, it might mow down everybody.

00:03:58.500 So it is a high risk, high, high reward situation.

00:04:02.740 So you might save everybody.

00:04:03.940 It is a solution.

00:04:05.220 It is a third solution.

00:04:08.500 You're the, in, in that solution, you're the only one who is allowed to have any sort

00:04:13.880 of, uh, moral satisfaction or dissatisfaction.

00:04:17.140 Cause there'll be no one else left.

00:04:18.860 Yeah.

00:04:19.360 Nobody there to witness.

00:04:20.400 Cause the train train rolls over and it's in flames at this point.

00:04:23.880 So, so yeah, I just heard about that today.

00:04:26.600 Is it to a, uh, if, uh, if a trolley, if a trolley kills everyone on the tracks, did it actually

00:04:32.480 kill anyone at all?

00:04:33.780 Yeah. 0.97

00:04:34.240 There's no, no round to see it.

00:04:35.800 So no, no one to witness.

00:04:39.340 Wow.

00:04:39.620 That's dark.

00:04:40.380 Thanks for that, James.

00:04:41.860 The, uh, now, now you can, uh, rest knowing that there aren't just two, two options to this

00:04:48.840 problem.

00:04:49.140 So, okay. 0.63

00:04:51.660 Well, with, uh, with that, uh, let's move into, uh, an equally ridiculous situation.

00:05:01.540 You mean the start of world war three?

00:05:03.460 That's, that's what happened this week was the escalation of things.

00:05:07.760 And I guess everybody's, the media is losing their mind over this rocket attack by Iran.

00:05:16.340 Yeah.

00:05:16.820 Do you think this really could be the start of world war three?

00:05:19.600 I don't know.

00:05:22.420 It depends on how willing people are to like support sides.

00:05:27.560 Cause that's always, it's the kind of thing where an event happens and then countries are

00:05:34.400 roped in because they feel obligated to defend or they, they've got a certain agreement that

00:05:40.960 they've got to help out in certain cases.

00:05:43.980 Um, it does feel like in this, in this case, like the public will maybe starting to, I think

00:05:55.400 with the last month, like it seems like there's less people that feel happy about both sending

00:06:02.960 money overseas and, or supporting the actions of Israel or what, what, what they're doing right

00:06:10.720 there.

00:06:10.880 They're questioning like, well, is this right?

00:06:13.260 Or is, should we be funding any, anybody in the middle East?

00:06:17.800 Like, is that part of our problem?

00:06:19.800 Is that Canada's problem?

00:06:20.840 Is that United States problem?

00:06:22.220 Like, yeah.

00:06:23.560 Yeah.

00:06:23.800 Is that part of our mandate as a, as an international partner, as a, as a, you know, Canada does this

00:06:30.500 thing where we, where all of our politicians publicly support Israel and then also make

00:06:37.340 public pronouncements as often as possible about how many refugees from Palestine will

00:06:42.580 be taking in, you know?

00:06:43.620 So it's, I don't know that the U S does that.

00:06:46.260 I doubt that they do, but at least on in Canada, we like to, uh, talk out of both sides of our

00:06:52.280 mouth a little bit there, but obviously the, the, I, I suppose what the primary concern for

00:06:59.240 people looking at this from a geopolitical standpoint might say is that, well, Israel and Palestine

00:07:06.580 is one thing because Palestine is, uh, you know, even, you know, discounting the amount of 0.62

00:07:12.980 damage that they can do with, with what Hamas is able to accomplish. 0.77

00:07:16.680 They're not a nuclear power.

00:07:18.360 Iran is a nuclear power and they have a long history of very tense relations with the U S.

00:07:25.560 So do we have a situation here where, I mean, neither of us are experts on this, but when the,

00:07:32.380 uh, Ukrainian, uh, Russian war broke out, what seems like forever ago now, but I think it's been,

00:07:38.780 I think it's been about two years.

00:07:40.020 Um, a lot of people were calling that a proxy war, you know, essentially in everything but

00:07:46.280 name, a proxy war between the U S and Russia because with, with Ukraine as being the, the

00:07:50.560 front on which the battle took place, will we have another situation where the U S again

00:07:57.880 finds itself in a proxy war with Iran via Israel?

00:08:04.100 Yeah.

00:08:04.540 It depends on like if a conflict happens, well, are they providing auxiliary support or are

00:08:12.680 they sending weapons or are they like, they're ultimately adding fuel to the fire and I'm

00:08:19.300 sure Iran's not going to be happy to be like, they're not going to be happy with the U S if 0.96

00:08:25.940 they do play that role.

00:08:28.380 So it's one of these cases where the proxy war seems to, even the suggestion that you're going

00:08:34.220 to play that role sometimes makes that outcome more likely because you are falling into these

00:08:41.600 patterns and somebody rises up against that perceived threat because it's kind of a missile

00:08:48.680 measuring contest at this point of like how many weapons do you have?

00:08:52.040 And, um, but I, I think there's some potentially some disagreements about like, well, there's

00:09:00.180 a perception of, well, why would Iran do such an unprovoked, terrible attack? 0.78

00:09:06.920 And Israel has a right to defend themselves against this unprovoked attack.

00:09:11.700 Like I've heard that more than a few times kind of, uh, mentioned in, yeah, I've got this

00:09:18.580 up here and referencing exactly this, this is, uh, I'm not exactly sure who this person

00:09:23.920 is, but, um, it's, it's quite a big thread and we'll, we'll link to it.

00:09:27.980 But, um, this was, uh, it was fairly thorough and it's, uh, in its analysis, but, you know,

00:09:34.720 so asking, we, we have Iran launching drones and firing missiles at Israel, but why exactly

00:09:40.360 are they doing this again?

00:09:41.480 And, and here's, here's sort of why, uh, Israel, so as, as this person has said, and other

00:09:49.360 people have corroborated this, of course, uh, Israel attacked Iran's consulate in Damascus

00:09:53.900 last week, which killed seven senior officers of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, including

00:09:59.460 a senior general, uh, hitting a country's diplomatic mission in a third country is generally seen

00:10:04.080 as a big no-no.

00:10:04.920 Now, to be fair, when you have a lot of IRGC figures, including a top figure in a consulate

00:10:11.400 building, it's very, very, very unlikely, uh, it's very, very, very likely they weren't

00:10:18.180 just sitting around having tea.

00:10:19.720 They were probably planning slash coordinating military-related stuff, uh, i.e. you can see

00:10:25.080 why Israel did this. 0.85

00:10:27.840 So this thread kind of goes on a little bit, but, uh, generally speaking, the thinking is

00:10:33.440 that, uh, earlier on in this thread, he talks about Middle East deterrence, uh, and the,

00:10:41.200 the general notion that, you know, as is the way you play the game in this theater is, uh,

00:10:51.440 you know, somebody does a strike, you strike back.

00:10:54.920 Generally speaking, they're of equal measure when you're talking about powers like that.

00:10:59.820 Uh, it, I don't know if it was this person's, uh, um, conclusion, but I, I do know that I

00:11:06.760 read from more than one person, uh, the general feeling was that the drone, the drone strike

00:11:13.420 on Israel, of which Israel, I believe, um, neutralized like 99% of the drones, like there 0.75

00:11:20.060 was actually very little damage done.

00:11:21.940 And I think there was one death and it was the person who died was a Muslim.

00:11:27.480 Um, uh, it's hard to know how much of any of this is propaganda.

00:11:32.620 How much of this is, you know.

00:11:34.460 That was the Iron Dome working as intended.

00:11:37.660 Mm-hmm.

00:11:38.060 Mm-hmm.

00:11:38.360 So, so the, the idea was that this was not a real attack by Iran.

00:11:45.200 This was more of a face-saving measure of, listen, you, you killed one of our guys.

00:11:48.840 We're going to make a big show of, you know, sending some armaments your way, but we don't

00:11:54.460 want this to pop off. 0.99

00:11:55.440 This is just a, this is, you hit us, we're, we hit us, you hit us, we're going to hit you 1.00

00:12:01.320 back. 0.89

00:12:02.280 And, and then we can put this particular event to bed.

00:12:06.480 I don't know.

00:12:07.020 What, what are your, what are your thoughts on that kind of assessment?

00:12:10.180 The hasn't, hasn't that kind of a push-pull relationship been shown with many other countries?

00:12:17.180 Like, this is not something that, like, just happens in the Middle East.

00:12:23.260 Like, you would expect some kind of response if, like, if this happened to the U.S., like,

00:12:31.300 you, you'd expect them to strike back with something or, like, make another strategic

00:12:36.320 move or a display of force or be like, well, like, we don't accept you doing an unprovoked,

00:12:45.220 like, attack with no consequences, no retaliation.

00:12:50.280 It's the, the kind of thing, like, well, if you don't have any kind of response and it happens

00:12:54.900 two times in a row, well, like, what then?

00:12:57.380 Like, how much do you have it?

00:12:59.640 Then it has to escalate, right?

00:13:01.560 So at least on this, it's like, well, it's the message of, like, if you do this, we have

00:13:06.200 weapons, we're able to defend ourselves.

00:13:08.180 Don't continue any further.

00:13:11.200 I don't think that was a, they're obviously smart enough to know that the Iron Dome is this

00:13:17.040 advanced protection system that can shoot down the majority of drones and missiles.

00:13:22.560 So if they were really wanting to do harm, would they just waste, like, is this either 0.90

00:13:30.060 the, just the dumbest attack or was this just a demonstration, like a, a gesture to them? 0.95

00:13:39.100 So I, I don't think they're incompetent. 0.99

00:13:43.080 No, that's right.

00:13:44.620 And, and here's a, here's perhaps a more succinct version by, uh, Luke Rutkowski here, who probably

00:13:50.820 people know from, uh, Tim cast and, you know, he's a journalist in his own right outside

00:13:56.500 of that, of course, but so 14 days ago, Israeli strike on Iranian consulate and Damascus kills

00:14:01.620 key commander.

00:14:02.340 Iran says seven days ago, Iran offers not to attack Israel.

00:14:06.280 If Gaza ceasefire works victory near claims Netanyahu four days ago, Netanyahu sets date

00:14:12.620 for Rafa invasion, reject ceasefire deal that don't include victory over Hamas today.

00:14:17.680 Iran attacks Israel.

00:14:20.480 So, I mean, there's a pretty reasonable order of events that seems to kind of, uh, lean

00:14:27.220 towards what, what I think probably you and I think is the, is the more, um, is the rational

00:14:33.640 explanation here is that this is, this is just a whole lot of, uh, international finger

00:14:38.580 wagging and maybe not, uh, maybe not indicative of a, of a broad scale war.

00:14:42.900 Now that said though, and I w I should have found the tweet, I'll, I'll find it and we'll,

00:14:47.640 we'll link it.

00:14:48.160 But, um, there does seem to be some conflicting reports about what Israel is saying publicly

00:14:56.140 in their own, uh, like military press releases versus what they've told the U S regarding what

00:15:03.620 their actions are going to be in response.

00:15:05.420 Um, I can't say with certainty without it in front of me, but something to the effect

00:15:11.280 of, um, Israel telling the U S like, no, like, don't worry about it.

00:15:15.880 This is not going to be a thing.

00:15:16.920 And then, and then privately or in their own communication saying, we're going to strike

00:15:21.880 back and we're going to strike back hard.

00:15:23.120 So there just seemed to be some, um, you know, differing reports of what, what the true

00:15:29.700 intention is or what the true plans are.

00:15:31.400 Um, yeah, the, the other thing to maybe keep in mind or realize is anytime you have a war

00:15:40.940 like this, the people benefiting are the ones who sell weapons and make weapons and finance

00:15:48.760 the companies that make weapons.

00:15:50.660 So excuse me, sorry.

00:15:52.360 Yeah.

00:15:52.600 And, and then you also have the banking industry that finances all of this as well.

00:15:59.180 So they benefit from wars and it ultimately is a distraction from things that are happening

00:16:04.900 at home.

00:16:06.080 If somebody wants to put on their full tinfoil hat, the one theory that I heard is that world

00:16:11.680 war three, if it pops off, the fear around it is, would be enough to coerce countries into

00:16:21.000 accepting a UN led global set of governance.

00:16:25.960 That's an interesting concern though, cause it's not completely, it's not like it hasn't

00:16:30.700 been alluded to by, you know, people thinking, you know, on a more global geopolitical scale

00:16:37.420 before.

00:16:38.020 Yeah.

00:16:39.280 Maybe we do an episode where we pull some of the exact quotes and, um, of the world economic

00:16:45.680 forum and the, the mentions of like the need for global governance.

00:16:52.100 Um, which I guess raises the question of like, well, what happens to the municipal and there's

00:17:00.780 like the self sovereignty of nations when you have these global entities wanting to exert

00:17:05.420 their control?

00:17:06.060 Like, is it possible to have the best interest of all the individuals when the sovereignty

00:17:11.860 is diluted through these?

00:17:13.820 Uh, let it be the, the dictates of the who, or the dictates of any other global entity.

00:17:22.020 And I, I, they've expressed that they, I can understand in their mind, they want a global

00:17:28.100 government and.

00:17:30.900 Well, and they have evidence too, from not so long ago that, you know, given the right,

00:17:37.140 um, given the right catastrophe or situation and global instability and unrest and uncertainty,

00:17:45.120 a majority, I don't know if a majority, but I would probably guess a majority of countries

00:17:50.180 in the world all fell pretty easily in line with the dictates of a global, uh, governing

00:18:00.060 body of a sort, right?

00:18:02.040 I mean, in COVID response is what I'm saying.

00:18:03.760 Pretty much that.

00:18:04.600 Yeah.

00:18:04.700 The lockdown guidelines and everything that was all referenced back to the who, um, even

00:18:12.320 social distancing, six feet, all these, it was the same everywhere.

00:18:15.660 Yeah.

00:18:16.220 So that, that's at the government level, but you also have like media companies and tech

00:18:21.620 companies writing into their, um, into their standards and into their code of conducts,

00:18:28.360 referencing the who for their medical guidelines or what you can and cannot say, as well as,

00:18:34.800 um, linking any discussions on climate to what has been established by the UN, even though

00:18:42.980 people will dismiss these global entities as not having any real power, you look at what

00:18:49.720 they recommend.

00:18:50.360 And it is, you have these ripples, ripple effects through media and what individual countries

00:18:56.800 implement as well.

00:18:58.420 So it's not an insignificant, um, issue of when they, when they say something, it does change

00:19:07.040 the way people are, are affected.

00:19:10.360 Yeah.

00:19:11.520 Yeah.

00:19:12.000 Yeah.

00:19:12.240 Well, and, and I thought I'm with you on all that.

00:19:16.060 My, my tinfoil hat is firmly on too, but, um, I thought you were going to go somewhere

00:19:21.880 else with that actually, when you, when you started that.

00:19:24.040 And I thought you were going to say what people were talking about before, um, in, you know,

00:19:29.900 what might be the, maybe the overall goal or, or at least a result of what could be called

00:19:36.000 world war three sparking off, um, would be China's invasion of Taiwan.

00:19:42.660 And I remember people talking about this when Russia and Ukraine popped off to saying, well,

00:19:49.320 this is, this behavior is a good, uh, embolden, um, the, uh, CCP to make their first like strategic

00:19:58.500 moves into, into retaking Taiwan.

00:20:00.620 So do you think it's so hard to say, and this is such a broad question, but do you think

00:20:07.020 that that will have, uh, repercussions in that, in that theater as well?

00:20:14.940 It's hard to know, like that whole Taiwan, uh, situation, like it hasn't been, it's kind

00:20:25.080 of been quiet the last little bit because it was ramping up and there was displays of, yeah,

00:20:29.180 like there are some fighter jets that were seen around and there were maybe some displays

00:20:34.540 of, uh, China's force in that.

00:20:39.640 So like, remember the weather balloons last summer or weather balloons last summer?

00:20:44.460 Just happened to find their way in North America.

00:20:49.320 That went away as quickly as it came, but.

00:20:52.420 So that very well could happen.

00:20:55.540 Um, we're kind of at the point where like anything can happen, nothing's actually that

00:20:59.700 surprising.

00:21:00.860 Um, Keith, I wouldn't be surprised to wake up to anything, not to react to it.

00:21:05.940 Like, um, we've tried not to get sucked into every little thing happening and just being

00:21:12.780 like emotionally swept up and all that.

00:21:16.180 Like, and it's fun to get into discussions online, obviously.

00:21:19.980 And, um, there's some subjects where you still have to get to the root of the issue.

00:21:24.840 And it's interesting hearing how other people think there's also part of how some of these

00:21:31.440 situations unfold is it's almost through this like subtle manufactured consent of like, everybody

00:21:39.120 has to kind of pick a side.

00:21:41.440 So they go with it.

00:21:43.260 And there's obviously those who just say no war.

00:21:47.700 And they're like, well, let's stop funding any of this, or let's stop playing the role

00:21:51.820 of a global police force of having to show up everywhere and deploy.

00:21:58.820 However, many battalions on the ground and get our aircraft carriers and wherever.

00:22:04.660 And so I, ideally we would say stop the funding, stop enabling any of this and, or just get

00:22:16.040 back to a point of like countries respecting the sovereign rights of their own country or

00:22:22.980 like countries around them with the citizens, et cetera.

00:22:25.720 So, well, and it's hard for the U S I would imagine right now, I mean, the U S is, is handicapped 1.00

00:22:33.180 on so many levels right now.

00:22:34.400 Like, I mean, they've got a zombie in the white house who is inexplicably still in the

00:22:42.540 race apparently, and hasn't been Gavin Newsom'd yet.

00:22:47.660 Uh, and so there, there, there's that front and they're like still trying to find like, you

00:22:54.900 know, Trump, you know, cheated at poker one time.

00:22:58.700 So, you know, we're, we're going to lay another charge on them.

00:23:01.180 Like they're, they're having this internal battle trying so hard to, um, you know, deal

00:23:06.920 with an election coming up.

00:23:09.720 And also there's all this stuff kicking off in the middle East and they've sort of over

00:23:14.980 the years had, and even currently have talked themselves into a situation where they're

00:23:21.100 not able to like, let's say that Iran does send, or let's say that Israel does do a severe

00:23:29.080 overreaction to Israel, to, uh, Iran sends, you know, however many munitions and however

00:23:35.280 much, you know, I don't know the terms for these things, but let's just say that something

00:23:39.320 very heavy, very, uh, um, serious gets casualties with lots of casualties.

00:23:48.380 Yeah, that's right.

00:23:49.100 With, with, with a much, with, where we're not talking about it in the way of, yeah, 99%

00:23:54.180 of the drones were destroyed by the iron, uh, iron dome or whatever they call it.

00:23:58.480 Um, how, how can the U S just at that point say, well, okay, well now we're staying out

00:24:04.340 of it.

00:24:05.240 Now we're staying out of it when one of our, uh, most, one of our most vocal allies, like

00:24:11.080 that we've been vocally allied to is now in a hot war with one of our most vocal enemies

00:24:20.700 over the last decades. 0.98

00:24:22.160 Like how, how are they supposed to stay out of it at that point and not be massive hypocrites 0.95

00:24:27.100 on both fronts, right? 0.93

00:24:29.280 Yeah.

00:24:29.740 It would be kind of impossible with how many, you think about how close, closely tied the

00:24:38.600 U S is to Israel, both with like dual citizenships with lobby groups, with certain agreements and

00:24:48.540 all that's kind of running in the background behind the scenes.

00:24:51.360 And then you see the decisions that come out on the forefront.

00:24:54.660 It's not surprising that the, the way that U S supports Israel would emerge the way it 0.88

00:25:01.200 does with, with this combination of factors.

00:25:03.660 So with those kinds of pressures, um, I think the, the U S is more likely to be sucked into

00:25:11.680 a war or needing to provide support.

00:25:15.280 They already send weapons.

00:25:17.100 Whether it wants to or not.

00:25:18.280 Yeah.

00:25:19.140 So scary.

00:25:20.760 Yeah.

00:25:21.360 Um, I think part of it is, I think there's hope in like people taking less, being less

00:25:31.200 agreeable of like, I think there's been a little bit of pushback on some of these things that

00:25:37.040 you think about how many wars we've kind of, like the U S has been subtly brought into and

00:25:44.620 the reasons for going into that war were like later found out to be pretty useless.

00:25:51.160 Or did not have any merit.

00:25:53.340 So I think.

00:25:54.000 Don't get me started on the Gulf of Tonkin James.

00:25:55.940 Don't get me started on it.

00:25:57.620 We'll do a whole episode on the Gulf of Tonkin.

00:26:00.540 Thank you.

00:26:02.500 The, uh.

00:26:03.040 Yeah, I know.

00:26:03.700 So I, I, I, I, I, I think there's some good discussions.

00:26:08.920 Um, hopefully this pushback, the awareness is, it's more of a like, well, let's, uh, fix a

00:26:15.020 few bridges at home first.

00:26:16.840 Um, that'd be nice.

00:26:18.620 Yeah.

00:26:19.180 Yeah.

00:26:19.380 And, and, and we'll have to talk about Canada and its taxes another time, but like we're

00:26:25.660 sending all this money somewhere else and we're in like quite a bit of debt and we're

00:26:31.180 like, well, why is all that money leaving Canada?

00:26:34.940 Like, wouldn't you prioritize at home first?

00:26:38.720 Like make sure everybody's doing well first before like sending it all out because that's

00:26:44.840 I guess I'm, I guess I'm just wondering James, why you literally hate immigrants.

00:26:48.660 I wasn't even talking about immigrants.

00:26:51.460 I was just, I was literally talking about the government funded, it's not government

00:26:56.560 funded, it's taxpayer funded, it's all the taxes.

00:26:58.720 So it's like they, they, they tax everybody and then, oh, you get a little bit back because

00:27:04.440 of the, uh, carbon tax and some rebates because he did some math on this piece of paper and

00:27:09.960 they give you money back that they took.

00:27:12.740 But if you don't like the government spending money on things like other countries and other

00:27:17.080 people and then also financing all those people to come here, that's because you literally

00:27:22.860 hate immigrants, right?

00:27:24.740 That's, that's the simplest answer and it's overused.

00:27:27.680 I'm pretty sure I've read that CBC article.

00:27:30.960 The, I, I would love to do a comparison of like prior CBC and then new ones because they

00:27:38.120 are saying like maybe immigration's not working out so well, maybe it's unsustainable.

00:27:43.820 That's an interesting one.

00:27:45.020 Several, several years, several years ago, like it doesn't take much of like seeing how

00:27:50.620 many articles of like Canadian news outlets demonizing individuals for even having another

00:27:57.740 opinion.

00:27:58.120 And I think that it also explains why like, um, the only party that is against immigration

00:28:05.580 is a PPC, um, People's Party of Canada and they don't have a whole lot of support.

00:28:10.780 So it's likely that the conservatives are going to win, but the conservatives aren't really

00:28:15.200 rolling back immigration that much.

00:28:16.760 They're like, Oh, let's be a little bit smarter about it.

00:28:19.080 We're, we're at a point where like the smart thing would be just to like stop it for a few

00:28:25.380 years, maybe run a study or two.

00:28:28.060 That they're talking about that in England actually, because that's, they've been, they,

00:28:33.040 they may be in actually more dire circumstances than we are in that aspect.

00:28:38.920 And not only because, you know, they have such a smaller landmass, but because actually even

00:28:44.280 the raw numbers are so much higher too.

00:28:47.280 Yeah.

00:28:47.760 Um, I think Canada's got quite a bit per capita, like one of the highest rates, but I think

00:28:54.100 England's up there as well and they've been doing it for a while.

00:28:57.320 And if you run the numbers, I think 90 something percent of people in Britain in the 1950s were

00:29:06.960 white.

00:29:07.860 And now I think they're at 30 or 40%.

00:29:11.940 It's less than half for sure.

00:29:13.840 Yeah.

00:29:14.020 It's at a very shockingly low number.

00:29:16.740 And then what does that do to social fabric?

00:29:20.200 And yeah, I remember hearing Constantine Kissin say just maybe a few weeks ago, uh, something

00:29:26.300 about how I'm not going to remember any of the specifics.

00:29:30.580 I shouldn't even say it at all, but he was saying something about how, like, I think their

00:29:34.280 next, after London, the next biggest city is like Brighton or something like that.

00:29:38.540 Um, and, um, with the amount of immigrants that are being allowed into the, to the country, 0.75

00:29:45.140 they will need another Brighton every 20 years or something like just to, just to house that

00:29:51.360 amount of people that compound, uh, into the country, which is.

00:29:54.980 Yeah.

00:29:55.140 So the existing cities and towns that exist, it just isn't enough.

00:30:02.080 It's not enough.

00:30:02.820 And there's such a small, they're an Island you're not getting anymore.

00:30:06.760 You're there's no more land to, to just copy, paste, copy, paste.

00:30:10.780 Like the cities don't get rebuilt and just duplicated instantly.

00:30:16.300 Like this is not.

00:30:17.080 And even I, I say here in Canada, like, you know, we've got, we've got so much land quote

00:30:21.420 unquote, but also so much of it is frozen tundra that it's inhospitable.

00:30:25.620 So it's frozen tundra or it's being used to feed all the people in Canada.

00:30:31.100 Like it's, it's not just sitting idle.

00:30:33.960 That's right.

00:30:36.220 Anyway.

00:30:37.640 Ooh, that's another chat.

00:30:39.660 Uh, you want to, you want to cut it here?

00:30:41.320 You think?

00:30:42.140 I think this is a good place to wrap up for now.

00:30:44.020 We'll keep this one short and sweet and.

00:30:46.960 All right.

00:30:47.700 Well, yeah, so that's a scary one.

00:30:51.600 Um, pretty crazy week.

00:30:53.180 I hope it, I hope it's nothing.

00:30:56.040 I don't know if that's a ridiculous hope, but I, I hope it amounts to nothing and it's

00:31:00.260 just a whole bunch of saber rattling, but, um, we, uh, we very much shall see.

00:31:06.300 Yeah.

00:31:07.200 This is being recorded on Tuesday, April 16th for future reference.

00:31:11.280 If on Wednesday, April 20th, something ridiculous happens, uh, and anyone's wondering why we're

00:31:16.760 speaking so glib about it, but, uh, so there you go.

00:31:20.360 Um, the, there are those who will think craziness will happen on four 20.

00:31:25.340 So, Ooh, well, it'll be a, uh, it'll be a fiery situation.

00:31:33.400 It'll, it'll be hazy for some.

00:31:35.940 Hmm.

00:31:36.380 Yeah.

00:31:36.940 Yeah.

00:31:37.340 The situation will be honestly, at the end of the day, I hope all of this just goes up

00:31:42.080 in smoke.

00:31:43.000 There you go.

00:31:45.220 All right, James, let's get out of here before we say another one.

00:31:48.260 It was good.

00:31:48.780 Cheers, man.

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The Critical Compass Podcast - April 27, 2024

Israel v. Iran, the Push for Globalism, and America's Obligations ｜ A Critical Compass Discussion

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