Keeping the YouTube Community Safe | A Critical Compass Growth Opportunity
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Summary
In this episode of The Critical Compass, Mike and James discuss the removal of a video that was flagged as "medical misinformation" by YouTube. They discuss what this means and what they can do about it. They also discuss the controversial AstraZeneca data that was recently released by the company regarding the safety and effectiveness of a new type of vaccine.
Transcript
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Welcome back to another episode of The Critical Compass.
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I'm James and this is Mike and we've got a short episode for you today
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we went over the AstraZeneca data that recently came out
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and that got flagged for medical misinformation
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even though we were just discussing what was in front of us
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So, yeah, it's frustrating that we had to take that down.
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We couldn't keep it up, but we do have it on Rumble
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due to a violation of our community guidelines.
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Oh, so they call it policy training, not re-education.
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within 90 days of completing the policy training,
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Get started, look at your content, and take action.
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Something you posted may violate YouTube's community guidelines
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You can take a training to dismiss the warning,
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Take a look at your content team policies in mind.
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I don't know if there's a white flag and then it...
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I don't know if any humans end up going through the process
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So, what we don't want to do is say any words right now, I assume,
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or that start with the letter A in this context
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about specific health conditions and substances.
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or if this wide umbrella captures a little bit more
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Well, we haven't really promoted anything alternative.
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Oh, so we can even do that after taking the training.
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We want you to create and share your content confidently.
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You'll have unlimited attempts to get it right.
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While there are different types of medical misinformation, the one we'll focus on most
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YouTube doesn't allow content that poses a serious risk of egregious harm by spreading
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medical misinformation that contradicts local health authorities or the World Health Organization's
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guidance about specific health conditions and substances.
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What happens if a local health authority has different information or a guideline than the
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Because you could have local health authorities like they had in Florida, right?
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A community leader uploads a video in which he urges local residents not to get vaccinated
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because he believes the vaccines contain cells and tissue samples from aborted babies.
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How can I say this in a way that it's not going to...
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Wasn't there a Project Veritas, uh, like, Pfizer whistleblower that said it was, in fact,
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the Pfizer vaccine was, in fact, descended from certain cell lines of this thing on the screen?
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And, therefore, they're like, well, it depends on how exact you get with...
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I imagine we can predict the answers because we know...
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Like, any good citizen, we know what the right thing is to say.
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Like, why aren't some people able to have opinions?
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Or what if you're reporting on somebody saying these things?
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Would your video get flagged if the person says that in a clip?
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What if you're reviewing somebody talking about this?
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Like, is that going to chill speech on even talking about people having opinions or controversies or anything around that as well?
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These things could be arbitrarily enforced at any point.
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Jada uploads a video in which she shows 5G cell phone towers in her town.
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all this talk about COVID and dying, unquote, started just after the towers were built.
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She says the 5G towers are being used to spread COVID, which proves that COVID is not a virus at all.
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I feel like even if she's wrong, we'd want to hear what she says so we can show that she's wrong.
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Tammy posts a video after getting the influenza vaccine.
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She shares that she became permanently paralyzed after receiving her seasonal influenza shot.
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In the video, she warns others not to get the influenza vaccine because, quote,
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you're all going to suffer the same way I did, unquote.
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What if she claims that her injury came from this?
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We do not allow claims that vaccines cause chronic side effects,
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outside of rare side effects that are recognized by health authorities.
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While we may make exceptions for content in which creators describe their or their family's
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first-hand experiences, we recognize there is a difference between sharing personal experiences
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So it's misinformation promoting if you talk about things that are, in fact, rare side
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You're misinforming people by telling them things that do, in fact, actually happen.
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As soon as you say, oh, we thought this was rare, but it's not rare, that is misinformation
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How, how, how, uh, what would the case incidents have to be for it to still be considered
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Pablo, Diversity, uploads a video in which he criticizes a university's requirement that
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all incoming students be vaccinated against certain diseases like polio or measles, mumps,
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In the video, Pablo says that these vaccines don't work because they don't reduce the number
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Again, these seem like they are, the examples are very exaggerated.
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Like it's, um, obviously you can find people with like, not a well nuanced conversation,
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but like, I've seen many around this that maybe would doubt the significance or the amount
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that affected and like, well, what were the other kind of sanitary and health conditions
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leading up to that, that maybe had a play into it.
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So like, you could always find somebody with this kind of like simple view, but, um,
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this example violates our policy because public claims that vaccines don't reduce the contraction
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Content claiming that vaccines do not reduce transmission or contraction of disease is not
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allowed on YouTube because it contradicts information from health authorities and could
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So what about during, James, I can't even say it.
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We're going to get flagged again for this flagging video.
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What if you have a health authority that, oh, I don't know.
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What, what vaccine, what transmission reduction and contraction, like what percentages, what
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Like, are we going to say that every vaccine is 100% effective?
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I don't, I don't even think, I don't think Anthony Fauci would say that.
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Yvonne and her friends live stream a discussion about COVID-19.
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Yvonne says that the most tragic part of the pandemic was that some government leaders
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She says, quote, this never would have happened if the government made the right decisions.
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Because this is a very specifically worded question too.
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This is tough because this is the type of person that YouTube likes.
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I think this is, this is the type of, uh, like this person I don't think would have,
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I don't actually, I legitimately, legitimately don't know how to answer the question.
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Because there, there are people, you, you could find somebody, this just sums it up.
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You could find somebody on like either side of, there's some that say should have locked
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And the harm, like all the other stuff, the reason it went on for four years is because
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they didn't shut down hard enough and fast enough.
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It doesn't really matter, but we have unlimited, okay.
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This example does not violate our policy because Yvonne doesn't deny the existence of the COVID-19
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Props, props to YouTube for having just a little bit of nuance.
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Let's take this thought experiment a little bit further.
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The pandemic is the government's fault in this quote.
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So does that mean that it's okay to say that, uh, Anthony Fauci through a third party paid,
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uh, a biomedical lab in China to create the COVID-19 virus?
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Yeah, it doesn't deny, doesn't deny the pandemic.
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But we already know that people talk about the origin.
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Well, maybe not anymore, but at least they used to anyway.
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Jing is a nurse who makes educational health content in her latest video.
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She shares that since getting the COVID-19 vaccine last year, she has had three miscarriages.
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She says that the COVID-19 vaccine made her infertile.
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This video doesn't violate the policy because Jing is a medical professional.
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This video doesn't violate the policy because Jing is allowed to share her personal experience.
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This video doesn't violate the policy because Jing is not spreading medical misinformation.
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She says that the COVID-19 vaccine made her infertile.
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I'm trying to put my brain in the head of the 20-year-old that wrote this question.
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And this does seem like something they would say because, you know, unless you're a, you know, she makes educational health content.
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So she must have an active, you know, account that isn't banned from her, you know, putting, you know, anti-vaccine stuff off.
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So I'm going to say that none of those are correct.
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No, because her personal experience is making a claim about the safety of the shot.
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It's because she's making a wide statement outside of her...
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Like, it's, you know, the rare side effect kind of thing?
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They're going to say that she can't know that it was the vaccine that made her infertile, right?
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Mike, I thought we were really going to 100% this.
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We don't allow content that claims that an approved COVID-19 vaccine causes infertility
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because that contradicts information from health authorities.
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Unless, of course, it's AstraZeneca reporting their own data and could cause egregious harm.
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It's egregious when things are spontaneously reported.
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You know when you just decide that you're just going to just terminate the call.
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However, we may make exceptions for content like this where the creator describes their
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Sehar uploaded a video saying that she still has stage 4 lung cancer after several rounds
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So it's clear that chemotherapy did not work for them.
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Honestly, these questions just keep getting more diverse.
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I'm such a fan of diversity in these questions.
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Actually, we should have gone through and double-checked all the...
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We should have sampled all the races and genders.
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I think there was only one male name, and that was Pablo.
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This video doesn't violate the policy because stage 4 lung cancer is incurable.
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This video doesn't violate the policy because Sehar is allowed to share...
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To share her personal experience with approved cancer treatments.
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This video doesn't violate the policy because everyone knows that chemotherapy doesn't work.
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Like, this video violates the policy because Sehar is discouraging others from getting chemotherapy.
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Because, well, it doesn't have 100% efficacy anyways.
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So no treatment or no thing is like 100%, so...
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I guess they're less concerned about the cancer sphere of information.
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We appreciate you taking the time to help us keep YouTube safe.
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So we better not violate this medical misinformation policy again, otherwise we'll get a strike.
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What if this video triggers the same medical misinformation?
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If we violate a different policy, however, we'll get another warning with the opportunity
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Like, I want to see if we can get a response from a human saying what exactly our violation
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All it would take is for them to find a moment of Sheldon saying they don't work.
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That, like, he did make a general claim to, like, it's like, they don't work.
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Technically, that would align with their policy of a claim on the safety and efficacy.
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And that's enough for them to, as we go through, that's...
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Even if it's AstraZeneca's own data, it's, like, he maybe didn't state...
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Have the exact statement of talking about AstraZeneca at that very moment.
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If it was pulled back and it was more general, then that would be claimed it's a...
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So, based on what you said, why don't we not appeal now?
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If it does not, then we can, you know, take it from there.
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If it does as well, that's when we're going to be at risk of a strike, I guess.
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Like, and then we should appeal one or both of them to...
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This is getting really, like, meta at this point of, like, we're going to appeal the video
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or we're talking about the original video that we didn't appeal, but, like, you know what
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So, I think if we do get a strike, it goes away after 90 days.
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So, I suppose this probably just stays on here until it falls off.
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I'm curious if we'll get double flagged if there are discussion on...
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Like, do you feel like we probably got like a...
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I would say I have at least a certificate now in medical misinformation policy.
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The thing that actually disturbed me the most was how Seyhard turned from a they-them to a she in the question.
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They probably misgendered Seyhard in their own questioning.
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YouTube should be more careful during this month.
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I think we'll keep her at about, you know, 30-ish minutes here for this short episode on our...
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I'd like to thank Sundar Pishai for this opportunity to expand my mind.
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I just feel like my appreciation for global health authorities has grown.
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I don't know if you still are going to insist on being...
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You know, having this tendency to question things and to, you know, come to certain conclusions based on changing data.
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If we're going to get strikes, you know, I think I'm just going to have to...
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I think I'm going to have to just, you know, stick to what I'm told from now on.
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I won't say anything but one thing, but I'm going to avoid the sun.
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I'm going to only eat three ounces of red meat per week.
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Yeah, today I ate five times the amount of my daily allotted amount of red meat, so...
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I had a bowl of ground beef for dinner before coming on this call, so I think we're both...
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We have to, like, abstain from it for the next two months just to make up for the...
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That our behavior has injected into the atmosphere.
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Okay, James, let's quit while we're ahead here.
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Appreciate you undergoing this re-education with me, and we'll see you guys in probably a week or so with another dangerous take, probably.