The Critical Compass Podcast - June 12, 2026


Mitch Sylvestre RESPONDS to Charlie Angus Claims of Foreign Interference & Treason in Alberta

Topics
$1
Mentioned
Charlie Angus Dennis Modry Trudeau Rogers Place Telesfield Alberta Trump
Will Independence Negotiations Take 10 Years？ ｜ Keith Wilson Why Can't Alberta Have the Same Quality of Life as Other Oil-Rich Nations？ ｜ Mitch Sylvestre

Episode Stats


Length

11 minutes

Words per minute

176.76

Word count

2,105

Sentence count

98

Harmful content

Misogyny

1

sentences flagged

Toxicity

2

sentences flagged

Hate speech

9

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

In this week's episode, the guys discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of the "$400 billion" deal between the Alberta Party and Dennis Modry, and the Canadian government. They also discuss whether or not the deal was actually a deal at all, and if it was done at all.

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
Topics generated with Qwen2.5-3B-Instruct.
Hosts, guests, and mentioned names generated with spaCy (en_core_web_sm), reconciled against Wikidata.
00:00:00.000 uh one gentleman in particular uh charlie angus was out uh the other day there's a clip going
00:00:07.240 around and we'll link that in our in our description but he specifically was mentioning
00:00:12.000 some some fairly uh egregious accusations um at your group i'm wondering if you would speak to
00:00:18.360 that and um and maybe respond a little bit to his claim the first thing charlie did was he said that
00:00:23.480 he's not very happy with you know the fact that we're breaking up canada and i would like to
00:00:28.680 wonder, as a lifelong NDP MP who spent his whole life trying to sabotage Alberta oil,
00:00:37.560 how he could be angry with the fact that the people of Alberta are not happy with what's
00:00:41.320 coming down from Ottawa. I find that totally hypocritical, and he's not understanding how 0.70
00:00:47.800 we could feel that way. And the rest of the thing is that these guys are talking about,
00:00:53.240 Dennis Modry is saying that they were offered $500 million from some foreign entity, the Americans in this case.
00:01:00.280 He has no proof of that because it never happened.
00:01:03.480 The conversation that he's alluding to is actually, and I was in the room when Dennis Modry brought this up,
00:01:12.360 He said $400 billion, not million, and it was for a line of credit alone to float Alberta in the chance that Alberta became independent so that the people wouldn't have to worry about money. 0.52
00:01:27.160 Now, I want to explain to you how silly this is.
00:01:30.840 Dr. Dennis Modry, who is a retired cardiothoracic surgeon, if he was sitting across the table and he was asking for $400 billion,
00:01:43.840 you would ask him, well, what gives you the right to think that you can negotiate for $400 billion first of all, and what do you have for security?
00:01:51.840 Because if you've ever been in a bank, unless you have more security than a loan, they're not going to lend you any money.
00:01:57.840 And the other part of it is that we could very easily do that in Canada, which I think would be the way to go with the assets that we have.
00:02:06.840 So you know what? Yeah, they're looking to say, oh, and there's Russian interference.
00:02:12.840 I've got to share something with you guys. The worst thing for them is exactly what we have.
00:02:19.840 And they're trying to pin all this fundraising and stuff on one big entity that's going to give us $500 million.
00:02:26.840 Well, what's really happening here is hundreds of thousands of Albertans
00:02:31.840 are donating $20 to $50 to $70 to make this run.
00:02:36.840 We're not beholden to any big group. We never took any money from Americans.
00:02:41.840 Unfortunately for them, this is a big movement of people that feel very strongly
00:02:47.840 about a free and independent Alberta. Like it or not, that's where we are.
00:02:52.840 we are so the they can try to put us in jail i'm sure that's the point of this whole thing for 0.73
00:02:59.800 for treason but why are we not talking about the communist chinese and the involvement with 0.59
00:03:05.160 the liberal party and the you know i mean cisa said uh already that communist china is our biggest
00:03:11.000 enemy and we have all this election interference going on in the trudeau era with 11 mps saying
00:03:16.360 you know they were aided by the communist chinese that is legitimately treason and how come mr
00:03:22.760 Angus's government that propped up the Liberals doesn't want an investigation into that. 0.95
00:03:30.660 And just one more point, too, that I'd say about that interview from Charlie Angus.
00:03:35.340 He was asked very specifically about, I think that interviewer that was asking him questions
00:03:41.540 was sort of maybe on our side or at least trying to stir something.
00:03:45.220 Yeah, because he says, he asked Charlie, like, would you have said the same thing to the
00:03:51.340 um, to the Quebec separatists in the nineties. Uh, and he said, well, you know, to, to Charlie
00:03:56.280 said, well, to my knowledge, the, um, the party Quebec didn't, uh, didn't go to any foreign nations
00:04:01.060 asking for funding or recognition or something. And actually that's literally exactly what they
00:04:05.280 did to the French. They asked for funding and recognition from the French, or at least a line 0.93
00:04:09.200 of credit and recognition from the French. So yeah, no, there is no difference. And, and none
00:04:13.720 of that is, is a classifiable. Yeah, but there is one big difference, the FLQ.
00:04:18.540 An actual terrorist organization.
00:04:20.540 Right.
00:04:21.540 There is one big difference there, the FLQ.
00:04:24.540 And back in those days when they declared a national emergency based on what they were doing.
00:04:29.540 And the funny thing is, if you look through that historically, our former Prime Minister Trudeau was actually involved with most of the people that were in the FLQ.
00:04:40.540 So, you know what, that makes that even more interesting.
00:04:43.540 And if you go back and look at the history of it, there's very direct lines between all of these people and the former Prime Minister Trudeau.
00:04:52.340 But the whole thing is that we're trying to do this absolutely within the rules, within the law, and we are. We absolutely are.
00:04:59.840 So as a consequence to that, they have a problem with that, I'm sure. So we're going to continue to do that.
00:05:05.900 We've been trying to find a place to have a rally for a month.
00:05:11.500 There's nobody letting us go do anything anywhere.
00:05:15.900 They're giving us, oh, six, eight months to a year before you can do this.
00:05:19.740 Rogers Place turned us down.
00:05:21.060 Commonwealth turned us down.
00:05:23.060 Telesfield turned us down.
00:05:24.900 The ledge is under repair.
00:05:27.060 We're having all manner of trouble.
00:05:29.340 We tried to organize a street parade, but they're telling us that you need a permit to do it,
00:05:33.460 it's going to be a year down the road basically before you can get a permit uh so so now we're
00:05:37.860 we're we're still looking for options so keep the faith uh you know maybe we'll just have to march
00:05:43.300 around bonnieville uh so we'll get 100 000 people to send on bonnieville we'll go around loose lake
00:05:50.580 yeah exactly 100 so yeah so that's kind of where we are with all of that so you know what we're
00:05:57.460 we're working hard to make sure everything's done but just to further the unified message point
00:06:01.700 When we were SFA and we were the proponent of the question, we were running the whole thing.
00:06:08.700 It was easy to do, because there was only one proponent, and we were dealing with one question, and we were all focused on doing one thing.
00:06:17.700 We knew that the minute these TPAs came into play that we would not necessarily lose control of it,
00:06:24.700 but the whole thing was that there was going to be a whole bunch of people with a whole bunch of different messages out there.
00:06:30.700 Truthfully, you can't collude with them. If you're a member of a third party, you can't collude with another third party. Those are the rules.
00:06:39.700 The rules are definitely there so that we can't win. Just understand that. Those third party rules are ridiculous.
00:06:46.700 The government has no rules. They're using our money to campaign against us, and we've got to raise $5,000 per person at max and put them all in place.
00:06:58.700 If you're not a third party, you cannot have an opinion about which side of this you stand on.
00:07:04.700 If you spend $1,000, then you have to become a third party.
00:07:07.700 But what I'm going to say to everybody out there is that for an individual, that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend.
00:07:15.700 Keep track of your receipts. If anybody says you can't do this, you can't support one side of this,
00:07:21.700 or you can't support our side of it is who I'm most concerned about, just keep track of your receipts.
00:07:26.700 And until you're over $1,000, you can say whatever the heck you want.
00:07:30.200 And I absolutely want you to do that.
00:07:33.360 Every single one of you out there that canvassed for us and did all the rest of that kind of stuff,
00:07:38.220 if you need to print paper, you've got $1,000 leeway there.
00:07:41.220 You've got $1,000 runway.
00:07:42.740 And paper's not that expensive to do.
00:07:44.540 And you can keep track of your receipts.
00:07:46.520 And as long as you're not over $1,000, you can hand out as much paper pro-Alberta independence as you want.
00:07:51.520 And please do it.
00:07:52.300 yeah the third party advertising rules get they get complicated because i know that they could
00:07:59.260 be weaponized at any time even like weekly reporting and what if you miss something and
00:08:05.140 one little detail and now you're slapped with administration fines and that's one thing if
00:08:11.060 you're a massive political party and like what's a five thousand dollar fine what about a smaller
00:08:16.280 creator what about people like that five grand could could ruin somebody um if they are attempting
00:08:23.600 so even this just this notion that this is all foreign funded is hilarious we we actually
00:08:29.240 discovered that we we got a hit piece against us it was actually it was in january and it was the
00:08:35.280 prairies exposed people and they did a hit piece and they said we were part of a shadowy network
00:08:40.740 of foreign funded um propaganda which is funny we're just driving to these events and like we're
00:08:48.020 bringing our own gear and we're filming and like we're editing we just happen to have some skills
00:08:52.580 like we're volunteering our time just like hundreds of and thousands of other people that are just
00:08:58.900 they they see value in advocating for change which means you don't need to be paid to do that
00:09:06.980 If it's an important goal, like this idea that there's no other, there's no other explanation than foreign funding assumes that nobody would advocate or nobody would be pushed to a point that they would actually stand up and volunteer their time in a manner like this.
00:09:26.860 So it's, I find it hilarious, but it doesn't really match reality at this point.
00:09:32.920 They tell on themselves, don't they?
00:09:34.100 Oh yeah.
00:09:34.300 And the whole thing is, is that this is their worst nightmare.
00:09:36.980 having big groups like APP organizing and talking to each other and growing. 0.79
00:09:42.980 And the part about the Russian thing I find hilarious is, 1.00
00:09:45.980 I say, well, here, I'm going to pick up the phone and call. 0.97
00:09:48.980 I say, hey, Vlad, why don't you come over here to Alberta?
00:09:52.980 He'd probably say, where's Alberta?
00:09:54.980 And give us a hand here because we could really use your help.
00:09:58.980 And they use the same thing all the time.
00:10:02.980 Trump went through that forever, you know, and everybody else that's going through that on our side of this,
00:10:08.640 and I'm not saying that we're on the same side as Trump because he's a foreign leader,
00:10:12.600 but here's the thing.
00:10:13.960 They're using the same playbook all over the place.
00:10:16.780 I was talking to a gentleman from New Zealand today, and he says they're doing the same thing there as here,
00:10:20.460 except they're further down the road than we are.
00:10:22.340 So what we're saying is that, you know, we're not in control.
00:10:25.800 If there is foreign people helping us online, I don't know anything about it, 0.97
00:10:30.260 and i'm basically technically illiterate so i couldn't do it myself so as and we're not 0.91
00:10:36.420 definitely not paying anybody to do it because we don't have that kind of money so uh they're on
00:10:40.980 their own yeah it's a um like james says i mean it's a it's it's a uh it's an admission that they
00:10:49.620 they could never see themselves doing anything on mere principle they'd have to be paid for it
00:10:54.660 But also it's a, it's a, um, well, I think it's a cope. I think it's just a pure coping mechanism to not have to contend with the very real arguments and the very, like, I mean, I still have yet to hear, I mean, everyone in this movement says it all the time. Show us an argument, like, give us a reason to stay, give us a real plan, give us something that makes sense and that we can actually, you know, run the numbers on and be like, oh yeah, you know what? We never thought of that. You're right.
00:11:22.540 But they won't do that. They'll just demonize. They'll just throw, you know, fake polls at the wall. And I mean, it really is telling that they truly have nothing to contend with the very real concerns and the hard numbers that we've presented them. 0.80
00:11:52.540 You