The Critical Compass Podcast - May 17, 2024


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In this episode, we discuss our experiences with the anti-vaccination narrative and its impact on our perception of the world, and how it shaped our views on the role of vaccines in public health. We discuss the role vaccines played in our understanding of public health, and the role they played in shaping our perceptions of the "covid" narrative, as well as some of the ways in which we were affected by it.

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00:00:00.000 our viewers may not know this but um james and i go back quite a ways uh all the way to um
00:00:11.180 junior high school and we you know as as you know friends kind of do you you sort of drift apart and
00:00:18.800 don't talk as much once you get you know into the workforce and out of school you don't see each
00:00:23.060 other as often everyone's busy but what sort of reconnected us was during covid on facebook
00:00:29.840 which i thank god no longer have i would post a lot about i would post a lot about contentious
00:00:36.760 things i'm a philosophy major i don't uh i don't shy away from a good debate so i would post a lot
00:00:41.100 about covid and i was actually like i was with the narrative i was getting i was trying to see if i
00:00:45.760 could get vaccinated early uh you know when it was restricted by age like i was really you know i was
00:00:51.520 i was definitely judging people who weren't wearing masks in public i wouldn't ever i wouldn't
00:00:56.420 say that i was ever um like a gullible you know like trust the media and pharmaceutical companies
00:01:03.200 at all you know without without question because i know you know from from family issues and stuff i
00:01:09.060 was very aware of what the pharmaceutical industry in in conjunction with government can do but i was
00:01:15.540 definitely wrapped up in the covid narrative for sure and james you were i don't know if you would 0.97
00:01:22.800 describe yourself as this but i certainly would in that you were essentially immune to the bullshit 0.89
00:01:28.640 from it from the beginning and you started asking me questions that i didn't know the answers to and i 0.80
00:01:35.360 didn't like that i didn't know the answers to and it got me thinking you got my gears the gears in my
00:01:40.820 head turning and i did such a 180 that probably within i don't know probably like a month or two
00:01:48.920 of us of you like commenting on some of my posts and sort of asking me like well what do we know about
00:01:53.660 mrna what do we know about you know how about myocarditis how about all these things you know these
00:01:58.940 these issues that now they've become so common parlance that you know even even the staunchest covid
00:02:06.260 uh a lot pro with the narrative even they have to admit now that okay well we had a problem with
00:02:13.260 myocarditis we had a problem with um governments intentionally suppressing non-inoculation related
00:02:21.520 treatments and preventative treatments and why wasn't anyone talking about vitamin d and sunlight and
00:02:27.660 you know so i'm i'm rambling now but you you changed my mind on covid and that and that left
00:02:36.120 like such a such a mark on me and i am so grateful for it and it's it's um i wish that we had had these
00:02:44.980 conversations before because i would have never i wouldn't i wouldn't have done anything really that
00:02:51.700 i did prior to actually gaining a more inquisitive mind about why the narrative was it was what it was
00:02:59.080 and what some of the motivations behind why governments and pharmaceutical companies were
00:03:05.920 acting as they did from the beginning and and why why it worked like i feel i feel so silly that it
00:03:11.820 worked on me at all now like looking back on it but um yeah i i think i'm in a much better place now
00:03:18.500 intellectually about it yeah the fact that you had a major shift is i think huge because
00:03:25.800 there are some people who are constantly revising or testing what they believe in why and there's
00:03:32.420 others who never test that and they'll believe one thing for the majority of their life will just be
00:03:38.180 they'll believe what is fed to them and i think once you start going down that path you start
00:03:45.960 realizing there's a lot of things that we take for granted that well maybe um maybe these things
00:03:52.480 aren't as solid as maybe we maybe we thought and you said that like i'm immune to some of the the
00:04:01.240 covid messaging and more that my skepticism was already heightened from years of playing around with
00:04:11.360 like diet and exercise and very much i was wondering like well why does the diabetics association still
00:04:19.640 recommend a moderate to high carbohydrate diet for something that like affects that raises insulin
00:04:28.000 like i had all these questions from a nutrition standpoint looked into the studies and then my mind
00:04:34.260 was blown on like how either ideologically motivated some of these studies are how captured they are by
00:04:41.760 finances and or how people can't get outside of these traditional views of what cholesterol means
00:04:50.260 or what like that a diet should consume this amount of carbohydrates no matter what like these are
00:04:57.240 ideas that haven't been shooken and there's actually a psychological resistance to these ideas that
00:05:04.100 and we we've seen this in practice throughout the nutrition and diet sphere and exercise sphere
00:05:10.500 but we saw it in practice in covid and very much i was following a bunch of these would be like
00:05:21.060 it was interesting to see the doctors in the low carbohydrate sphere
00:05:26.040 saw right through most of the covid bs yeah um so that that was one thing some of them were diving deep
00:05:35.920 in and they're like well exploring well what about the data we have on masks and what about this and
00:05:42.420 that so i didn't didn't buy into it mainly because of that um but i'm glad we've had some conversations
00:05:48.920 along the way and i i this is my favorite thing about this podcast is being able to explore these ideas
00:05:54.920 and i imagine even though we're doing this episode right now we may shift our views on some of these
00:06:00.100 issues later on um when we get to the israel palestine that's something we maybe have less of a clear
00:06:08.620 one-sided view of that issue now that we've gone a little bit deeper and we have more of a nuanced view
00:06:16.800 and like any of these things there's no political benefit to nuance um yeah it it always it always
00:06:27.800 politicized like you always get benefit for having like a a very one-sided almost cartoonish stance
00:06:35.500 that doesn't take in all the complexities
00:06:38.080 you