Shifting Viewpoints During COVID ｜ A Critical Compass Clip
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss our experiences with the anti-vaccination narrative and its impact on our perception of the world, and how it shaped our views on the role of vaccines in public health. We discuss the role vaccines played in our understanding of public health, and the role they played in shaping our perceptions of the "covid" narrative, as well as some of the ways in which we were affected by it.
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our viewers may not know this but um james and i go back quite a ways uh all the way to um
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junior high school and we you know as as you know friends kind of do you you sort of drift apart and
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don't talk as much once you get you know into the workforce and out of school you don't see each
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other as often everyone's busy but what sort of reconnected us was during covid on facebook
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which i thank god no longer have i would post a lot about i would post a lot about contentious
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things i'm a philosophy major i don't uh i don't shy away from a good debate so i would post a lot
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about covid and i was actually like i was with the narrative i was getting i was trying to see if i
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could get vaccinated early uh you know when it was restricted by age like i was really you know i was
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i was definitely judging people who weren't wearing masks in public i wouldn't ever i wouldn't
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say that i was ever um like a gullible you know like trust the media and pharmaceutical companies
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at all you know without without question because i know you know from from family issues and stuff i
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was very aware of what the pharmaceutical industry in in conjunction with government can do but i was
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definitely wrapped up in the covid narrative for sure and james you were i don't know if you would
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describe yourself as this but i certainly would in that you were essentially immune to the bullshit
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from it from the beginning and you started asking me questions that i didn't know the answers to and i
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didn't like that i didn't know the answers to and it got me thinking you got my gears the gears in my
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head turning and i did such a 180 that probably within i don't know probably like a month or two
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of us of you like commenting on some of my posts and sort of asking me like well what do we know about
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mrna what do we know about you know how about myocarditis how about all these things you know these
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these issues that now they've become so common parlance that you know even even the staunchest covid
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uh a lot pro with the narrative even they have to admit now that okay well we had a problem with
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myocarditis we had a problem with um governments intentionally suppressing non-inoculation related
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treatments and preventative treatments and why wasn't anyone talking about vitamin d and sunlight and
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you know so i'm i'm rambling now but you you changed my mind on covid and that and that left
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like such a such a mark on me and i am so grateful for it and it's it's um i wish that we had had these
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conversations before because i would have never i wouldn't i wouldn't have done anything really that
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i did prior to actually gaining a more inquisitive mind about why the narrative was it was what it was
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and what some of the motivations behind why governments and pharmaceutical companies were
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acting as they did from the beginning and and why why it worked like i feel i feel so silly that it
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worked on me at all now like looking back on it but um yeah i i think i'm in a much better place now
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intellectually about it yeah the fact that you had a major shift is i think huge because
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there are some people who are constantly revising or testing what they believe in why and there's
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others who never test that and they'll believe one thing for the majority of their life will just be
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they'll believe what is fed to them and i think once you start going down that path you start
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realizing there's a lot of things that we take for granted that well maybe um maybe these things
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aren't as solid as maybe we maybe we thought and you said that like i'm immune to some of the the
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covid messaging and more that my skepticism was already heightened from years of playing around with
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like diet and exercise and very much i was wondering like well why does the diabetics association still
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recommend a moderate to high carbohydrate diet for something that like affects that raises insulin
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like i had all these questions from a nutrition standpoint looked into the studies and then my mind
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was blown on like how either ideologically motivated some of these studies are how captured they are by
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finances and or how people can't get outside of these traditional views of what cholesterol means
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or what like that a diet should consume this amount of carbohydrates no matter what like these are
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ideas that haven't been shooken and there's actually a psychological resistance to these ideas that
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and we we've seen this in practice throughout the nutrition and diet sphere and exercise sphere
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but we saw it in practice in covid and very much i was following a bunch of these would be like
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it was interesting to see the doctors in the low carbohydrate sphere
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saw right through most of the covid bs yeah um so that that was one thing some of them were diving deep
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in and they're like well exploring well what about the data we have on masks and what about this and
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that so i didn't didn't buy into it mainly because of that um but i'm glad we've had some conversations
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along the way and i i this is my favorite thing about this podcast is being able to explore these ideas
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and i imagine even though we're doing this episode right now we may shift our views on some of these
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issues later on um when we get to the israel palestine that's something we maybe have less of a clear
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one-sided view of that issue now that we've gone a little bit deeper and we have more of a nuanced view
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and like any of these things there's no political benefit to nuance um yeah it it always it always
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politicized like you always get benefit for having like a a very one-sided almost cartoonish stance