The Critical Compass Podcast - June 13, 2025


The Secret Meeting of Alberta Independence Influencers feat. Martyupnorth

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Preston Manning Peter Guthrie Cam Davies Jeff Rath Marty
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In this episode, Marty and Marty discuss the recent gathering of the minds that took place in Airdrie, Alberta. Marty talks about some of the challenges he and his fellow separatists face, the challenges they face, and what they need to do to overcome them.

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00:00:00.000 I know that we're all very curious about this not so secret but sort of secret you know gathering
00:00:08.640 of the minds that happened very recently regarding some of the leaders involving some of the leaders
00:00:13.860 in this Alberta separatist movement can you shed some light so I can't divulge everything about
00:00:19.420 that meeting because we agreed to follow the chatterhouse rules you've heard of those so
00:00:24.760 but let's just say that this was an influence this was an influential person a person with
00:00:30.580 means money okay who just reached out to a whole bunch of people so I get this this call from
00:00:38.040 someone he says hey Marty you know we're getting together a bunch of people do you want to show up
00:00:42.560 at the I don't really remember the name it's kind of like the petroleum club in Calgary but the ranchers
00:00:47.600 the ranchman's club in Calgary an old historic club right do you want to just come out here and have a
00:00:53.460 chat I'm like sure I'm I'm cool with that we'll buy you uh we'll buy a turkey sandwich and uh
00:00:59.560 give you a diet coke literally that's what it was I show up there and I'm like whoa and I can names on
00:01:06.160 the people right like whoa Preston Manning well I didn't expect Preston Manning to be here and then
00:01:11.460 okay Cam Davis from the from that group uh Jeff Rath from whatever APP and then I have no idea who you
00:01:19.000 are no idea who you are but they brought 20 of us and all that that person did was facilitate
00:01:25.040 discussion among ourselves and we were not solutioning we weren't doing anything we were just
00:01:30.520 each had a turn to talk and it was about 90 minutes and I had the opportunity to voice some
00:01:36.480 of my concerns and so did everybody else but then we all walked away kind of thinking okay there's many
00:01:42.140 of us on the same page we're all moving there and we kind of have this sort of gentleman's agreement
00:01:47.500 through this benefactor that we need to get together at some point more often and try to
00:01:53.920 find some cohesion and make sure we're all paddling in the same direction so it was really cool there
00:01:59.980 was tempers there was there was there was knives there was there was some ugly moments but it was also
00:02:06.540 um it gave me hope like literally I tweeted after that I said for the first time and because because
00:02:14.360 prior to this meeting like just going to the APP events and the other ones my my my gut feeling is
00:02:20.000 like we're gonna screw this up we're gonna screw this up that's my gut feeling right and so yeah so
00:02:25.940 I so it's it's it's happening and I'm feeling optimistic about it but it's complicated and there's a lot
00:02:31.400 moving pieces yeah some of the complexity is that's amplified if you don't have crosstalk so I'm glad to
00:02:39.660 hear that there's at least some dialogue going on and not everybody has to be on the same page you
00:02:46.320 don't need to subscribe to the exact same plan but if you agree on some mute some of the common things
00:02:53.940 that can hurt or detrimental like okay can we all all avoid doing a b and c because that's going to set
00:03:00.360 us backwards um some things for optics like if we do this what's the perception and we need to get
00:03:07.440 more of these moderates on the side like what are yeah what are some of those ideas as well like
00:03:13.400 there's a lot of ways to strategize without having to all be doing the exact same thing yeah and and and
00:03:22.860 and my my current observation right now is that it's going to have to be a combination of all of the
00:03:28.960 above because one can fail right like what if the referendum fails then then the guys who are the
00:03:35.400 separatists will go I told you so now we're option b right but but are they mutually exclusive what if
00:03:41.920 the separate what if the referendum succeeds but there but we but another group managed to elect two
00:03:47.060 or three separatists like what if the republican party gets three members in the house of com in the
00:03:52.240 legislature I think that's a perk right and everybody's worried that oh well they're going to split the
00:03:57.100 vote well you know the conservatives do that to themselves I live in Cochran Airdrie they just
00:04:03.340 the conservatives just kicked out my MLA Peter Guthrie because he spoke out about the budget so
00:04:08.420 they kicked him out so I'm like one group is telling me you're going to split the vote but then I'm like
00:04:12.800 split the vote the the the party just did it to itself so you know as far as I'm concerned the
00:04:18.720 republican party should run a candidate in Cochran as soon as possible because
00:04:22.720 it's already a vacant seat and so they're going to run one in uh in disperse um
00:04:29.520 old uh three hills there's no risk I mean there's actually there's a a by-election is a perfect time
00:04:37.880 to elect a a a a fringe party or or an or an independent because it doesn't change the dynamic
00:04:46.040 the um the balance of power right now so so you know back to my thought I I think all all of them
00:04:52.980 need to move at the same time I also I mean you and I you the three of us were at the AGM I'm at the AGM
00:04:59.560 because I'm still trying to affect the party from within right I I still think that's one of the most
00:05:06.420 effective things I mean I'm not I'm not really in favor of of another uh you know wild rose another
00:05:12.840 right-leaning party I'd rather work with the existing one but if it doesn't work because I
00:05:18.180 mean some of the things Danielle has said lately not even what Danielle said I mean Danielle said
00:05:22.600 some things that make me worried like that she's um that she's uh not a separatist at heart that
00:05:29.200 she's more of a federalist but I also think she has these huge blind spot I keep coming back to that
00:05:33.440 I think she's being played in a sense so so I just worry about her um so and and then and then when
00:05:41.180 it comes to the APP I have a lot of worries about them I mean I I I admire what they're doing their
00:05:46.960 educational campaign they're gathering a lot of uh signatures and stuff like that but then
00:05:52.840 they're not politicians man they're they're lawyers and doctors and whatever else and they're well
00:05:58.260 intentioned but I think they have huge like when I ask them like what happens after it's a bit a bit
00:06:04.060 blank stare like you know who negotiates for us are you guys going to form a party so
00:06:08.980 you know I I think all three and maybe there's a fourth option or a fifth I don't even know what
00:06:14.420 those might be but I I think we I I think in the end we're going to need all of them if we want to be
00:06:20.900 successful
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