The Secret Meeting of Alberta Independence Influencers feat. Martyupnorth
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Summary
In this episode, Marty and Marty discuss the recent gathering of the minds that took place in Airdrie, Alberta. Marty talks about some of the challenges he and his fellow separatists face, the challenges they face, and what they need to do to overcome them.
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I know that we're all very curious about this not so secret but sort of secret you know gathering
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of the minds that happened very recently regarding some of the leaders involving some of the leaders
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in this Alberta separatist movement can you shed some light so I can't divulge everything about
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that meeting because we agreed to follow the chatterhouse rules you've heard of those so
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but let's just say that this was an influence this was an influential person a person with
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means money okay who just reached out to a whole bunch of people so I get this this call from
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someone he says hey Marty you know we're getting together a bunch of people do you want to show up
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at the I don't really remember the name it's kind of like the petroleum club in Calgary but the ranchers
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the ranchman's club in Calgary an old historic club right do you want to just come out here and have a
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chat I'm like sure I'm I'm cool with that we'll buy you uh we'll buy a turkey sandwich and uh
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give you a diet coke literally that's what it was I show up there and I'm like whoa and I can names on
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the people right like whoa Preston Manning well I didn't expect Preston Manning to be here and then
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okay Cam Davis from the from that group uh Jeff Rath from whatever APP and then I have no idea who you
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are no idea who you are but they brought 20 of us and all that that person did was facilitate
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discussion among ourselves and we were not solutioning we weren't doing anything we were just
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each had a turn to talk and it was about 90 minutes and I had the opportunity to voice some
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of my concerns and so did everybody else but then we all walked away kind of thinking okay there's many
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of us on the same page we're all moving there and we kind of have this sort of gentleman's agreement
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through this benefactor that we need to get together at some point more often and try to
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find some cohesion and make sure we're all paddling in the same direction so it was really cool there
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was tempers there was there was there was knives there was there was some ugly moments but it was also
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um it gave me hope like literally I tweeted after that I said for the first time and because because
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prior to this meeting like just going to the APP events and the other ones my my my gut feeling is
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like we're gonna screw this up we're gonna screw this up that's my gut feeling right and so yeah so
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I so it's it's it's happening and I'm feeling optimistic about it but it's complicated and there's a lot
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moving pieces yeah some of the complexity is that's amplified if you don't have crosstalk so I'm glad to
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hear that there's at least some dialogue going on and not everybody has to be on the same page you
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don't need to subscribe to the exact same plan but if you agree on some mute some of the common things
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that can hurt or detrimental like okay can we all all avoid doing a b and c because that's going to set
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us backwards um some things for optics like if we do this what's the perception and we need to get
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more of these moderates on the side like what are yeah what are some of those ideas as well like
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there's a lot of ways to strategize without having to all be doing the exact same thing yeah and and and
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and my my current observation right now is that it's going to have to be a combination of all of the
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above because one can fail right like what if the referendum fails then then the guys who are the
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separatists will go I told you so now we're option b right but but are they mutually exclusive what if
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the separate what if the referendum succeeds but there but we but another group managed to elect two
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or three separatists like what if the republican party gets three members in the house of com in the
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legislature I think that's a perk right and everybody's worried that oh well they're going to split the
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vote well you know the conservatives do that to themselves I live in Cochran Airdrie they just
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the conservatives just kicked out my MLA Peter Guthrie because he spoke out about the budget so
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they kicked him out so I'm like one group is telling me you're going to split the vote but then I'm like
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split the vote the the the party just did it to itself so you know as far as I'm concerned the
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republican party should run a candidate in Cochran as soon as possible because
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it's already a vacant seat and so they're going to run one in uh in disperse um
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old uh three hills there's no risk I mean there's actually there's a a by-election is a perfect time
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to elect a a a a fringe party or or an or an independent because it doesn't change the dynamic
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the um the balance of power right now so so you know back to my thought I I think all all of them
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need to move at the same time I also I mean you and I you the three of us were at the AGM I'm at the AGM
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because I'm still trying to affect the party from within right I I still think that's one of the most
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effective things I mean I'm not I'm not really in favor of of another uh you know wild rose another
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right-leaning party I'd rather work with the existing one but if it doesn't work because I
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mean some of the things Danielle has said lately not even what Danielle said I mean Danielle said
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some things that make me worried like that she's um that she's uh not a separatist at heart that
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she's more of a federalist but I also think she has these huge blind spot I keep coming back to that
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I think she's being played in a sense so so I just worry about her um so and and then and then when
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it comes to the APP I have a lot of worries about them I mean I I I admire what they're doing their
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educational campaign they're gathering a lot of uh signatures and stuff like that but then
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they're not politicians man they're they're lawyers and doctors and whatever else and they're well
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intentioned but I think they have huge like when I ask them like what happens after it's a bit a bit
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blank stare like you know who negotiates for us are you guys going to form a party so
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you know I I think all three and maybe there's a fourth option or a fifth I don't even know what
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those might be but I I think we I I think in the end we're going to need all of them if we want to be