The Critical Compass Podcast - February 04, 2025


This is Not the Greatest Live Stream in the World.


Episode Stats

Length

19 minutes

Words per Minute

154.85347

Word Count

3,047

Sentence Count

30

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

2


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Transcript

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00:00:00.000 here that looks like we're live on x yeah looks like we are let's double check uh see if youtube's
00:00:09.920 good i don't know how to tell actually through your channel um there is a live tab yeah it looks
00:00:18.720 it shows on our on our home page anyway there we go the uh yeah this is not the greatest live stream
00:00:26.880 this is this is just this is just a test um yeah nice to nice to have this rolling and
00:00:34.520 i guess for us to be able to unpack certain topics in real time um
00:00:40.760 yeah so i guess i don't want to talk about the terrace because we're going to talk about
00:00:47.640 stuff tomorrow indeed with a special guest that the special guest that our fans are are familiar
00:00:53.960 with a guest who occasionally gets spicy which is great um i did want to bring up i was kind of
00:01:02.740 musing on some some ideas of in the u.s we're seeing dei getting dismantled more by force
00:01:12.400 through the executive orders and then canada we have no such thing and i'm curious on like
00:01:20.820 what will happen as there's more pushback well it's like in the united states it's you're not
00:01:28.360 going to be able to call it dei so they're going to either rename or try to like sidestep it some
00:01:34.580 way and then i'm curious like what are the pressures like how is that going to translate
00:01:39.660 into canada because i i feel like these frameworks are very much inbuilt and they've started from the
00:01:47.780 universities and these HR trained individuals are the ones upholding a lot of the DEI with their
00:01:55.120 body of bullshit literature. Yeah. So I don't know, like in some ways I'm optimistic about the
00:02:03.060 DEI shift potentially, but I don't know if it's going to happen as quickly or as cleanly as I
00:02:12.600 think some some are thinking well i mean i think we're and it's i'm blanking right now but i know
00:02:19.680 for sure there are uh a few i don't know like maybe university or university adjacent institutions
00:02:26.340 that are they're saying that they're you know closing dei uh offices and job positions and
00:02:34.520 stuff but a lot of them are just renaming like you say or are um there are even some institutions
00:02:39.820 that are doubling and tripling down on their initiatives um i don't think canada has i mean
00:02:47.380 i'm of two minds of it because there it's a good question because there are you know sort of you
00:02:53.620 know as goes the u.s so goes you know the rest of the western world so that it could just kind of
00:02:59.760 by osmosis kind of filter down to our general cultural zeitgeist and and we could see a move
00:03:07.060 away from it but then what's kind of been made clear the last few days here in the uh in the um
00:03:13.920 wake of the again we're not going to talk about it but the tariff announcements is this whole like
00:03:18.200 team canada horse shit that you know there's there's uh andy lee was talking about it a couple
00:03:25.920 other um another friend of the channel um and a few others have been talking about how like
00:03:31.560 canada canadians have a long storied history of just identifying in the negative against like
00:03:39.980 you know we defining themselves by the fact that they're not americans
00:03:44.900 so i would be curious to know if we see a um you know a doubling and tripling down at a national
00:03:53.060 level just to say hey we're not we're not like trump in the u.s even though you know the
00:03:57.820 generally speaking the people are very similar you know we we share a lot of the same
00:04:03.260 ways of living and same general ideas um as as most americans i would say uh yeah the tds could
00:04:12.280 even amplify it here in canada because uniting over the we're not the bad orange man up here
00:04:20.100 they could say well look how terrible and how racist of a place it is in the states now without
00:04:26.120 DEI and that's why we need
00:04:28.260 DEI in Canada
00:04:30.280 and that's why we need to
00:04:32.120 ramp it up like it could go the other
00:04:34.140 direction yeah it
00:04:36.160 could you know it's
00:04:37.620 it's a very
00:04:39.400 it's a
00:04:43.900 tough thing because I don't see us having
00:04:46.180 the political will
00:04:47.440 that the US has
00:04:50.060 because I
00:04:52.240 saw that you know
00:04:53.540 we viewed it immediately
00:04:55.620 in how badly Polyev fumbled the messaging from the Conservatives.
00:05:00.960 He could have easily been, you know,
00:05:04.180 he could have said what he was supposed to say,
00:05:08.020 which was, hey, let's strengthen the border.
00:05:11.540 Let's stop the fentanyl.
00:05:12.560 Let's stop the illegals.
00:05:13.520 You know, that's, let's just do what, you know,
00:05:17.720 Trump asked us a month ago, over a month ago,
00:05:20.060 two months ago, just about.
00:05:21.140 uh but he kind of parroted the same kind of fake like tough guy routine that the Trudeau liberals
00:05:28.900 were were pulling and it was just sort of unappealing so yeah I don't I don't I don't see
00:05:33.420 you know Canadians are have a long history of uh you know trying to appear moderate and
00:05:46.740 as uh gad sad might say like employ suicidal empathy and how we approach these sort of issues
00:05:53.800 so i just don't see it i don't i don't really see it happening to the same degree and i think it
00:05:58.200 which is a shame because i think it kind of needs to like i think watching what trump is able to do
00:06:03.060 with executive orders is pretty uh i'm i'm pretty envious of it of it actually but with it being an
00:06:11.600 executive order will it be undone in four years yeah yeah i mean they're sort of relying on i
00:06:19.840 think i think a lot of the steps that they're taking and a lot of the this like how heavy
00:06:25.860 handed the the eos have been so far they're sort of i think uh banking on a jd vance presidency
00:06:35.120 like potentially getting another four to eight years out of this um which you know there was
00:06:42.880 some talk previously of like oh you know who is it going to be like is is vivek going to be
00:06:48.400 okay with you know because obviously the the idea is going to be to run jd as the presidential
00:06:54.360 candidate knowing that trump can't run again and having him already be in the vice presidential
00:06:59.240 office for four years, but, you know, always Vivek going to be okay being, you know, a VP
00:07:04.540 potentially candidate or some, some other, you know, Secretary of State or something, and then
00:07:10.160 waiting another potentially eight years for his shot. But now that's no, there's no, I mean, I
00:07:16.400 don't think there's any real consideration of that right now. I think they're just, they're
00:07:21.460 planning on having another, you know, potential, you know, decade plus of being able to ride this.
00:07:28.240 And if they, you know, if they get the results out of it that they're, you know, it's sort of at least hoping to get with with the DOG, it may be an easy ride for them.
00:07:40.980 There may not be. I don't think that the I don't think that the Democratic Party has the will currently to get their house in order in time to really mount any significant challenge.
00:07:52.740 I mean, four years is a long time, but I just don't see it happening.
00:07:55.160 yeah so you may see the same hopefully in canada you have the same kind of thing as if the liberals
00:08:04.240 get out with them will be tied some of these well some of these ideas of let it be the dei
00:08:12.360 and like these outwardly discriminatory practices and maybe the obsession with
00:08:19.820 kind of the gender ideology um that might be tied to like well these are dying ideologies with a
00:08:28.760 dying party yeah and you may have that still tied together in association but that will also require
00:08:35.840 the conservatives to like really speak up and take a hard stand on these and not just like
00:08:44.240 poke their heads above water when it's convenient yeah yeah and not just be like the historical like
00:08:50.740 you know i don't know if we have any americans watching right now or who will be watching this
00:08:56.920 but um like our our conservative party is well to the left of the republican party like or i'm sorry
00:09:07.780 of the um um of the democrat party like they're they're uh they're still on the grand scheme of
00:09:15.780 thing are a very left of center party so it's not like you know we have a real uh any any real risk
00:09:22.520 in canada of having a of a modern uh you know maga movement in in this country it's just not
00:09:28.540 it's just not in us at the moment unfortunately so sorry there's a fire alarm in the background but
00:09:36.060 that'll happen why don't you talk for a second to the to the people and go make sure my apartment's
00:09:40.680 not burning down yeah good to check these things the uh yeah so we're also seeing
00:09:47.860 um a few more like protests pop up um in the pro or not even protests like a few protesters
00:09:58.200 saying like we'll deport them
00:10:01.840 they must go
00:10:04.020 and we've seen some like counter protests as well
00:10:07.780 and I'm curious if that will start ramping up
00:10:10.980 and to what extent
00:10:12.460 to what extent that will grow
00:10:18.200 and these protests
00:10:20.920 I feel like they're always
00:10:23.420 they're always speaking to some of the ideas that people have
00:10:27.560 but they get misrepresent so or they get misrepresented and often it's they're painted
00:10:33.900 like well if somebody says um yeah so with these it's a no fire what did i miss no my wife just
00:10:44.280 told me told me to tell our viewers that it's just her cooking it's not a it's not a not a fire
00:10:49.700 not a fire yet
00:10:51.080 the night is young
00:10:52.980 what did I miss?
00:10:56.000 I was basically just pointing
00:10:58.340 out that we have seen
00:11:00.380 a few different protesters pop up
00:11:02.300 and like let it be
00:11:04.320 the like deport
00:11:06.320 them all or they must go home
00:11:07.900 and then we've had counter protesters as well
00:11:10.220 and they do speak
00:11:12.380 to some of these sentiments
00:11:14.200 and on one side it speaks to
00:11:16.180 people worried
00:11:18.400 about endless immigration
00:11:19.520 so that's one side of things and then the other side is well the people counter protest and saying
00:11:25.960 diversity is our strength are the ones fully encapsulated by the this dei mentality of like
00:11:34.340 well we must equalize outcomes and it's our moral duty to extend a helping hand and welcome everybody
00:11:41.160 in and um so you see these kind of polar opposites in these in these views yeah yeah and there's a
00:11:49.280 There was a, people were noticing that on the, you know, it was a fairly small turnout for the, you know, deport them all kind of thing.
00:11:56.740 And I'm not fully convinced that it wasn't a, some sort of operation.
00:12:02.960 It gets very convenient.
00:12:05.460 Like it turns into a very convenient set of CBC articles.
00:12:10.040 Yeah, that's right.
00:12:10.900 Just prior to a, to a, to an inauguration, right?
00:12:14.060 Yeah, it's, it's a bit of a, yeah, it's a bit, bit convenient for me, but.
00:12:19.280 um but in the but people were noticing that in in the counter protest the you know diversity is
00:12:26.740 our strength protests not a not a canadian flag to be seen hey just just trans flags gay flags
00:12:33.880 uh uh palestine flags that's you know i don't know if i don't know how many palestinians are
00:12:40.340 in edmonton but it can't be much to but it's just like a it's a interesting observation that it
00:12:47.240 seems to be that the um the choices are either you're a uh you're a proud canadian or you're a
00:12:58.520 sensitive progressive liberal who wants to welcome diversity like it's it couldn't possibly be there
00:13:05.220 couldn't possibly be some shade in between there you're either a a nazi or a or a or an ally right
00:13:12.440 Yeah, they are incapable of a nuanced view in that way.
00:13:20.240 And even, like, we're still running the issue of, like, they're not representing their position very well.
00:13:27.980 It's all the leftists in North America who are taking whatever legitimate concerns of the Palestinian people or the legitimate cases of, let it be, the potential war crimes in Gaza, and they are making it very easy for them to be dismissed because they're acting completely idiotic.
00:13:54.860 they are they are not making themselves look good so i i feel like they don't fully understand
00:14:02.360 the optics of them just being idiots in canada and like what that's they're they're not helping
00:14:09.720 their cause so i feel like it's more self-serving than it is them actually making a difference they
00:14:14.960 are yeah it's performative yeah performative virtue signaling they care about doing the good
00:14:22.020 thing and signaling that they are doing the good thing yeah i don't i don't know that you would be
00:14:27.680 able to have necessarily a nuanced or or any any kind of like really interesting or
00:14:34.600 enlightening conversation with any of these people i don't think that they have try i try
00:14:40.860 all the time yeah and i'm pleasantly surprised at at how they are unable to like i i try to at
00:14:48.280 least give them the benefit of the doubt yeah um and then like ask well what do you think about this
00:14:54.700 what do you think about that and i'm open to being i would love for them to show me like a little bit
00:15:02.040 of nuance or for them to like actually either steel man the other side or do any of that but
00:15:10.240 they don't and so my hope's not not the highest that way so we'll see yeah yeah i mean there's
00:15:19.460 only so many i i don't know how it's not more uh noticeable that you know there's it only ever goes
00:15:29.640 one way like it only ever works there is never a conservative voice or any sort of like dissident
00:15:37.780 type of conservative voice is never at risk of ever being you know legitimately in good faith
00:15:43.920 offered a conversation from a from a leftist media outlet or or a commentator you know on on
00:15:50.820 twitter or wherever any sort of news outlet where you constantly you know it doesn't take any
00:15:57.840 searching it's like you're constantly seeing invitations for people to it's like it's from a
00:16:04.140 even if nothing else from a like a competitive or challenge sort of standpoint you know like come
00:16:10.520 like you know let me i want to feel smarter than you or whatever at least it's like at least the
00:16:15.320 offer is made you know even if it's not like even if it's in a competitive kind of way like
00:16:20.880 you know uh like a i'm imagining like the online equivalent of steven crowder or or charlie kirk at
00:16:28.080 change your change my mind yeah or like you know debate you know an active sort of debate challenge
00:16:34.500 like at least the the attempt is being made at a conversation so so and and we've mentioned this
00:16:41.800 before that the left will they will narrow they will keep on narrowing what they're accepting
00:16:48.860 of what you're able to like either discuss or talk about or what opinions you're allowed to have
00:16:55.380 through media and if you have an opinion outside of that they won't invite you back but those
00:17:01.520 people want it like this is how we have a whole group of left of center commentators and
00:17:08.760 intellectuals who have not been invited back on anything any left mainstream programs so that now
00:17:17.780 they talk to somebody in the middle or on the right and then that's used as evidence of here
00:17:23.000 That's why we can't invite you back because you're on the right now.
00:17:27.220 You're right adjacent or you're platforming, you're amplifying these terrible people on the right.
00:17:34.340 It's like how Dave Smith describes how liberal news outlets play at attempting to talk about the other side.
00:17:46.600 is they'll invite they'll invite another liberal on and ask them what the conservative response to
00:17:53.580 some issue would be instead of just asking a conservative in the first place because it's like
00:17:57.820 i don't know but um might as well get it from the source but well yeah if they get it from the
00:18:04.160 source though then they risk then they risk having a compelling argument being being heard on their
00:18:09.120 platform and that's that's antithetical to the messaging because yeah like you say it's you know
00:18:14.200 they they legitimately i don't know if it's legitimate all the time but they will view the
00:18:21.740 even the expressing like it's if they view it in terms of good and evil i mean you can't it's not
00:18:30.800 it's not a matter of like having two competing ideas in the marketplace it's a you know it's a
00:18:36.440 matter of good versus evil so that's you can't if you're a good person you can't let evil even
00:18:41.420 risk propagating right because they view themselves as a as the gatekeeper of of evil yeah exactly so
00:18:48.380 that's something we can definitely unpack a little bit more in the future but i feel like as a as a
00:18:55.420 test this is a good test i think so yeah a good 20 minutes we got uh yeah i was keeping track we
00:19:00.440 had a maximum of seven viewers so that's very nice for a first stream nice to have a couple just poke
00:19:06.340 their heads in and we'll see how the
00:19:09.540 comments and or some of the
00:19:10.680 interactions happen as we do these
00:19:12.120 more but yeah yeah tomorrow we have
00:19:14.960 Marty up north joining us we're gonna
00:19:16.560 unpack some of the spoilers about
00:19:19.520 tariffs yeah I think spoiling it for
00:19:22.160 six people is not not the worst I
00:19:25.400 expect all six of you back five now yeah
00:19:29.680 that's sweet okay man well yeah thanks
00:19:32.140 for setting this up we'll we'll do this
00:19:33.840 again tomorrow and yeah it looks like
00:19:35.580 we're looks like we're good yeah all right cheers my friend cool cheers buddy see ya