In this episode of the Critical Compass Live Stream, we discuss the impact of President Donald Trump's announcement of tariffs on other countries and the impact on Canada and other trading partners. We talk about the potential impact on the Canadian economy, as well as the implications for the rest of the world, and whether or not they should be worried about it.
00:00:30.000ah there we are hey everyone sorry for the long intro there uh welcome to this uh critical
00:00:41.560compass live stream uh we're uh lucky enough to have uh marty up north with us again and uh we
00:00:49.100are today going to discuss uh probably a lot of things but the the at least the excuse for getting
00:00:56.060together today is tariffs this was going to be a whole lot of a lot spicier of a of a live stream
00:01:01.180uh until about i don't know what it was three o'clock yesterday afternoon 24 hours ago yeah
00:01:06.880yeah so but hey i mean i guess it's a good thing but marty what uh i don't know give your take on
00:01:13.280this like for for people listening who just kind of vaguely understand the term of what you know
00:01:18.160what we're talking about here. What is a tariff? A tariff is, usually countries will impose a
00:01:28.780tariff on another country to prevent, to diminish competition on a good that they already make
00:01:37.620coming into from other countries. So as an example, Canada makes aluminum, we make aluminum,
00:01:45.280and and we want people to buy our own aluminum and if there's another country that has aluminum
00:01:51.200and they make it really really cheap compared to us let's say china then we would uh our government0.64
00:01:57.440could impose a tariff on aluminum coming from china and what that means is that uh you know if
00:02:04.880i'm the guy who's building trucks and i need to build an aluminum frame for my truck they're
00:02:09.600encouraging me to buy aluminum from canada and and and if the aluminum from the from from china is
00:02:18.400cheaper when they impose a tariff on it they artificially make it more expensive so they're
00:02:23.600kind of forcing me to go find the loom to buy local and so it's usually limited for that like
00:02:29.520very limited so in canada we've had tariffs against the americans for a long time like we
00:02:33.920we tariff the out of their dairy products we make it completely uncompetitive for an american to
00:02:41.680sell cheese or milk to canada like you never see my management right in that in this case i mean
00:02:49.040in this case we call it like the dairy cartel because the tariffs that we impose on china were
00:02:53.600like 200 so so if a china so if uh if an american wants to sell me a liter of milk he has to be like
00:03:01.680200 cheaper he has to sell it to me for 50 cents i'll buy it for 50 cents and then the government
00:03:07.120will slap another buck on it and and and if that's the case and it's still cheaper than the
00:03:13.040canadian one well then so be it so so that's an example of a tariff and and when donald trump
00:03:18.960said that he was gonna impose tariffs on canada and other nations he said he said this like this
00:03:26.400is a policy of is right he said it in uh he said it during his debate with kamala harris like four
00:03:32.080months ago he said it in his inauguration speech he hinted at it all along but he wants to use he
00:03:38.160wanted to he wanted to use tariffs not to necessarily um well no he wanted to use tariffs
00:03:45.760to force his own people to buy local and not to buy from canada and and and that's a that's a
00:03:52.320crazy idea because they're already getting crazy deals from us like you know our dollars worth like
00:03:59.04070 of their dollar and we're an exporting country and they're buying from us things that they already
00:04:04.720need so the whole idea when when when donald suggested tariffs like initially i was not
00:04:11.360worried about it like i i thought it's an interesting concept but i i wasn't fundamentally worried
00:04:16.240So it almost seems like, if not for the benefit of forcing local, reliance on local American products, it almost feels like it's partially a power move and also partially to set the tone and to create a reaction that he's in the driver's seat.
00:04:40.360and he's starting these ripples and now we're seeing everybody react in real time
00:04:49.160oh yeah absolutely yeah yeah i mean uh you know let's go back to his original like when he first
00:04:56.120mentioned tariffs he kind of mentioned it in the context of you know um that they would bring in
00:05:02.360extra money that's one thing right so he he talked about like other countries he uses a weird term
00:05:07.880right like he's he talks that they're subsidizing other countries i disagree with that i mean you
00:05:13.960know like he very marginally like on paper the americans buy more from us than we buy from them
00:05:21.560so he used the term you know we're subset we're subsidizing canada's like oh no it's a trade
00:05:26.200imbalance but your your economy's 10 times bigger than north stars so you're always gonna so so he
00:05:31.640used the term um you know he he was upset that we were that they were subsidizing other countries
00:05:38.920he also bounced the idea of tariffs as a way to finance the government and be able to perhaps
00:05:46.840lower the taxes on his own citizens and and then he also used you know he talked openly about the
00:05:53.640fact that america used to be a powerhouse when it came to manufacturing and things like that and
00:05:57.400they'd lost the the lead on some of that you know manufacturing was now occurring in china and india
00:06:03.000and places like that so he wanted to use tariffs to to for for multiple reasons to regain advantages
00:06:10.440to re to kickstart industries that had disappeared and to generate extra money so and and and those
00:06:17.400ideas i'll you know i'm not an economist but those ideas are old i mean in fact he was talking about
00:06:24.440this like he kept referring to one of their old presidents like mckinley did this it's like yeah
00:06:28.920mckinley did that in 1920. like you know like the the world of 1920 yeah compared to today like it's
00:06:37.640it's not the same way so um but so he did that for that but but but to your point james yeah he also
00:06:45.000you know everybody talks about trump and his book the art of the deal and and and and other things
00:06:50.120and yeah like in hindsight when i look at i i i tweeted about this today it was a wicked uh it0.91
00:06:57.000was a dick move it was a bully move it was a power move right and um you know this morning you know0.91
00:07:03.960canada's like we're going like we're breathing a sigh of relief he sent us a clear message but0.98
00:07:10.200think of them and we're his best friends right or supposedly we're some of his best friends
00:07:14.040we're the we've been allies through whatever three wars think of the message it sends to um
00:07:22.200to ukraine to saudi arabia to germany to south africa to brazil any other country that he's
00:07:28.840going to do business with in the next year or four years and like if i'm willing to squeeze
00:07:34.360my neighbors my best friends my cousins then what am i willing to do to you guys right so it was a
00:07:39.960pretty pretty awesome power move yeah and that's for sure yeah now i want to say something i i
00:07:47.720i know you're having something i'm having uh i'm having an amer i'm having an american bourbon
00:07:52.520right now and uh i tweeted about this today um you know some of the stuff we saw the other day
00:07:58.840like canadians booing uh at hockey game stuff like that sure it's it's it's emotional and there
00:08:04.440was some reflection to that but no hard feelings right it's business business is business um
00:08:11.640and so yeah that that was my message to americans well played trump well played
00:08:15.800and uh hopefully no hard feelings we got the we heard you we heard you loud and clear and uh and
00:08:21.320then let's move on well and what i heard as well is that i don't know how much truth there is to
00:08:26.600this but i can i can see a world in which this is the case i mean one of the you know canada did
00:08:33.960come forward with at least kind of like a skeleton of a plan kind of mid-December you know about a
00:08:39.460you know two three weeks after the initial tariff threats and they said you know we'll commit this
00:08:44.300amount of money and we'll commit that amount of money and then uh Trudeau went on a ski vacation
00:08:50.000and then resigned and prorogued parliament and so nothing like no monies were allocated not nothing
00:08:56.340was actually like uh you know instantiated um so this final threat here you know last weekend was
00:09:03.940was kind of the you know we came forward again with yesterday apparently with a very similar plan
00:09:09.120but with much more uh you know concrete numbers 10,000 border agents whatever and um interestingly
00:09:17.000one of the new uh additions to that that plan was a uh like a joint American Canadian task force
00:09:24.540kind of task force yeah yeah yeah and so so I was reading some comments where people were saying
00:09:30.040like i think it was jason james i think is his name uh we follow him on x he he's a he's a good
00:09:35.480commentator um he was saying that like maybe this is a maybe what trump actually wants is to like
00:09:41.860get a little bit of insight into just how captured the canadian government is with chinese interests
00:09:48.020maybe this is like an insider play to kind of like really understand what he's dealing with
00:09:52.900oh yeah well i mean we're like first of all yeah like trying to trying to get into trump's mind
00:09:59.260right now is impossible right like none of us like it always has been yeah you you can analyze it
00:10:04.300yeah so earlier we talked about on the surface why would you use tariffs so you would use tariffs
00:10:09.740economically for a small game but you can use tariffs or sanctions as punishment right we do
00:10:15.820that to other nations like we've done you know we did it to iran and other countries like it's
00:10:19.980it has nothing to do with um with uh helping our own economy like when when iran 20 years ago
00:10:27.180misbehave and that's something we'd say well we're we're we're doing an embargo or we're
00:10:31.580sanctioning you or we're doing stuff like that so so yes trump also simultaneously the tariffs
00:10:38.460look like they were a bit of a a sanction or a punishment for not doing something he asked us
00:10:45.820to do and one of the things yeah one of the things he asked is secure your border and and and and i
00:10:51.980i'll admit like when he when i heard that when i heard him say that like uh whatever two months
00:10:57.100ago um i was i was a little taken aback by that right i mean if you think of an americans and
00:11:04.220their and which border is giving americans grief like the first one that comes to mind is mexico
00:11:09.820right yeah but then i looked into our border and then you realize yeah yeah there is a you know
00:11:15.580there is a fentanyl problem there is cartels cartel like we're gonna actually not cartel
00:11:20.780like there's cartel organizations in canada in vancouver and toronto the chinese yeah absolutely
00:11:28.140so did he use did he use the sanctions as a as a threat or a form of punishment sure absolutely um
00:11:37.260and and then uh he he also used the sanctions as um as he could have used them as a bargaining
00:11:45.260chip for for for because we also know that the nafta i keep calling it the nafta agreement the
00:11:50.300north american free trade but the the existing free trade is is due for renewal like in july so
00:11:57.900yeah i mean there's there's lots there's lots at play i'll even go this far to to the whole
00:12:03.260chinese interference thing um yeah i think there's a quite a bit of value in there or not value a bit
00:12:10.540of um validity in that like you know trump trump 1.0 when he got elected eight years ago one of
00:12:18.860of his mandates then was like i'm going to clean up the swamp right i'm going to clean up the swamp
00:12:23.040and and then he started cleaning up the swamp then he lost that election biden came in
00:12:27.620now he's finishing this he's finishing cleaning up the swamp he's doing it in his own territory
00:12:32.160but i think while while cleaning up the swamp he looked north he looked elsewhere and he saw
00:12:38.360canada's like you know you guys got a little bit of swamp in uh pretty swampy yeah yeah pretty
00:12:43.240swampy i'm gonna go he doesn't like trudeau like i don't think there's any uh love lost between
00:12:48.720knows to so yeah one one thing i'm noticing is um as this unfolds there's going to be things
00:12:56.360pushed into the collective consciousness that will be impossible to ignore and i'm curious for
00:13:02.740us to observe like well what did the conservatives say about some of these issues what did the
00:13:07.740liberals say and then i want to see how the story changes and then see if there's backpedaling or
00:13:15.320see what unfolds with maybe they'll speak their mind and they'll claim something like well yes we
00:13:22.300put in a border plan but look 90 of the weapons like that criminals use come from they're smuggled
00:13:29.980across the border they let that one slip through and then like well what does that mean for our
00:13:37.600our gun laws here in Canada as they try to double down and justify one thing it reveals more in other
00:13:46.100areas so we got to be hyper vigilant to observe and to really call it what's happening yeah well
00:13:53.560the the border one again that was an interesting one because he was he was sort of okay let's say
00:13:59.880there is a problem with the border it's a two-way street right the border like people cross the
00:14:04.660border so it's like yeah you want us to stop people from going into your country but you can
00:14:09.340also stop them from coming into your country like last time i looked actually you're free to leave0.52
00:14:14.820canada and you're stopped when you enter the u.s and vice versa so when he was complaining that
00:14:20.920but but that's not what he wasn't complaining about that i mean what he was complaining about
00:14:25.080when he looking at the border is is is the bigger picture which is the stuff that we make here that
00:14:31.100we're allowing across the border. But to your point, we could have easily said, sure, there's
00:14:35.540drugs going in from our side to your side, but you're sending us guns. But then he could argue
00:14:42.420the guns made in are not illegal, whereas the drugs are illegal. We can get into semantics, but
00:14:50.440I'm glad we have an hour because we got a lot to unpack. I mean, there's like a ton to unpack.
00:15:00.100like which way do you guys want to take this like we can go and also anyway and like anyway whatever
00:15:06.580whatever feels right let's stick to this okay um let's let's let's let's let i think on your
00:15:14.340train of thought james one of the things that um okay so that so yesterday we get this good news
00:15:20.720right like i i fundamentally thought let's let's let what i would have done is let trump say he
00:15:26.180wants to impose the tariffs because me pragmatically speaking you're just going to hurt yourself
00:15:30.660that's what i thought and let him do that don't go with this retaliatory language and and and in fact
00:15:37.580don't do the retaliatory language go visit trump and ask him what you want but unfortunately we
00:15:44.040immediately chose to go down like the overwhelmingly like we all heard it last week team canada
00:15:49.520nine out of ten premiers were all on board with retaliation they even started retaliating pull
00:15:54.480pulling booze off the shelf canceling starling things and and whatnot i i saw yesterday as a
00:16:01.800win because trump backed off temporarily on the on the tariffs and we have to come back on that
00:16:07.760because yes i'm curious to see what happens in 30 days and i think there's technical issues there
00:16:12.140but i had another win yesterday which is more closer to me as an albertan you guys know this
00:16:18.780i'm i'm i'm bored like i'm an alberta separatist now i look at confederation and i don't think
00:16:23.740been working very well and for me the events of the last three weeks like if anybody still thinks
00:16:29.740that alberta is part of team canada like the like everybody had suddenly everybody had these
00:16:35.340revelations oh we should have diversified the economy we should have had more markets we should
00:16:39.340have built pipelines we should have you know they suddenly everybody wanted us on board to be team
00:16:44.780canada the tariffs got listed lifted yesterday this morning they asked the premier of quebec
00:16:50.380okay so now after seeing what just happened how do you feel about building a pipeline across
00:16:54.940quebec to help alberta and what did he say flat out no way no way i'm like wow so uh to me i got
00:17:03.180a couple of wins this week because one of my big wins was to was like you know uh what's the
00:17:08.140expression um in vino veritas right like in in wine comes truth or in a good battle comes the truth
00:17:14.460like and i i think we saw some ugly truths this week the country is has a hard time rallying
00:17:20.740around a common cause and the country's divided so it's team canada well but not in that way but
00:17:27.600in this way yes yes it's conditional yeah yeah i mean i i like i like listening to some of the
00:17:34.320politicians today like there was one politician in particular the the the liberal leader or
00:17:39.220candidate uh ruby i don't remember her last name uh um anyways like dolly wall or something like
00:17:47.300right yeah something like that and and then she kept saying like oh the last 72 hours were uh
00:17:52.180an eye-opener seven she must have said it five times in an interview the last 72 hours were an
00:17:56.500eye-opener an eye-opener i opened her i'm like an eye-opener we pay you guys big bucks you're a
00:18:03.140liberal you've been in power for 10 years and you couldn't predict any of this like suddenly like
00:18:08.500what happened what happened this week is a is a huge eye-opener for you and you're going to
00:18:13.540suddenly solve the problems the problems that we've been like you know screaming about for years
00:18:19.300we should diversify the economy we should have more than just the americans as partners we should
00:18:24.500have oil we should do this we should do that and then to hear liberals this week saying it was an
00:18:29.460eye-opener and we need to fix that problem i'm like wow like and then i don't want to pick on
00:18:35.460pierre too much but you know i found that pierre when pierre got on board this um the the retaliatory
00:18:42.420tariffs i was like oh god you know you guys are all going down the center yeah he had such we were
00:18:48.640talking about that yesterday briefly it's like we he had such a perfect opportunity to just from the
00:18:53.420start say like what what daniel smith was saying like hey listen i mean it's a it's a very simple
00:18:59.440ask what what trump was asking two months ago like if if the border is so like if we're such
00:19:05.640a small portion of the amount of drugs and illegals entering the u.s if it's so like
00:19:09.780insignificant then it should be easy to solve like why are you why are you risking billions
00:19:15.460of dollars in a in a crashed economy if it could be just whoa it's just nothing right
00:19:20.080it didn't make any sense from the beginning yeah if it if it is a huge problem then trump's got a0.98
00:19:26.500point if it's a small problem it can be solved so by it doesn't need this like dick measuring
00:19:32.760contest right no and and i mean um lots of people brought up similar ideas but i you know i love
00:19:40.580twitter and places like that because you can put out an idea and then and then either your tweet
00:19:45.120ages well or it doesn't age well yeah i've had a lot of tweets that age well in the last few weeks
00:19:50.420i mean like i would have i i literally said a month ago why don't we designate somebody uh
00:19:57.140you know significant to go negotiate with trump because it wasn't going to be trudeau he's a lame
00:20:01.380duck and he doesn't like him i'm like pick somebody else don't pick jolie pick somebody0.87
00:20:06.420legitimate send him to go meet with trump and then work this out you know oh you don't like
00:20:11.780our border done we'll fix that you don't think uh you don't like we're not spending two percent of
00:20:16.740our gdp on uh on uh the military our bad you're right donald sorry uh what are we short 50 billion
00:20:24.900i can't do it next year but tell you what how about i do 25 billion dollars is that okay oh
00:20:30.020better yet i'll do 25 billion dollars in the next couple years and i'll buy everything i need from
00:20:35.300you guys i'll buy a frigate from you guys 180 jets and maybe a whole pile of ammunition is that good
00:20:41.140enough oh and you're worried about um greenland and the russians tell you what here's a thousand
00:20:46.580square kilometers of prime real estate in labrador build a base knock yourself out man like this
00:20:51.460could have all been negotiated and so maybe that's what he wants right maybe that's what he want and
00:20:56.900he he just goes for the jugular and then backs up and then and then we'll see the real negotiation
00:21:03.220but um because i mean the concessions he got from us right now are what like you know trudeau comes
00:21:09.220out he he rehashed a plan he he published like december 18th like we're gonna do 1.3 billion
00:21:15.620dollars over three years that's 130 million dollars like what is that like you know that's
00:21:20.580arrived can every year like we spent more than that on the arrive can app and um and and and i
00:21:27.620want to dissect that i don't think he can i don't even think he can deliver that 1.3 billion dollars
00:21:32.580in the next 30 days oh i very much doubt it i doubt because i went i went in detail through
00:21:38.340the budget the money's not there man like he won't be able to the best that trudeau can do in the
00:21:44.260next 10 30 days is we can deploy the military along the along the board like he can he can call
00:21:51.620the the vandu's and the ppcli and just send like you know a thousand guys like the americans are
00:21:57.380doing on their southern border we can we can set up a couple of tents and send a bunch of guys and
00:22:01.300have people fly back and forth in our heli and our in our uh antiquated 50 year old sea kings and
00:22:08.340vietnamese era helicopters yeah yeah yeah well that's um that brings up a point about like uh
00:22:16.620when you when you talk about like getting getting wins right like do i was curious to see what you
00:22:22.140think like do you consider when i was looking at how the tariffs broke down right at the end there
00:22:27.560when he announced the difference in like 25 across the board 10 on canadian energy would you do you
00:22:34.700think that that was a daniel smith win do you think like when she went down and chatted with
00:22:38.380him like the reason why it wasn't 25 as well on canadian energy is because she had some effect
00:22:43.600on that or do you think it was unrelated no i think she had i hope i think she had some effect
00:22:48.560i mean she didn't just like she she didn't just meet trump like during the inauguration she was
00:22:53.260you know working pretty hard i think she had more effect with other people and and lobbyists like0.89
00:22:58.740oil industry executives um like realistically like the pictures of her and trump last week or
00:23:06.820two weeks ago when she was at mar-a-largo or whatever like it was her photographer taking
00:23:11.140pictures and she was publishing the pictures if trump really liked her he would have published
00:23:16.580the pictures like he did for so many other people remember when he went to paris last uh for the
00:23:21.700reopening of notre dame like he was all happy you know here's him so anyways i will let me collect
00:23:30.580my thoughts so she had some impact more importantly i hope i hope she tapped guys you know the
00:23:35.380president of cnrl the president of trans canada those guys and say you talk to your counterparts
00:23:40.580which they did but let's not forget trump also does have really smart people working for him
00:23:48.420like he can he he like you know the that's one thing i love about the american presidency like
00:23:53.300once a week he'll like he'll pull out his rolodex any president can do this and say i want to see
00:23:59.140the senior guys from the oil industry in my office next week and they'll be there and they'll talk to
00:24:03.940him so i'm sure the people who own the big refineries in chicago and in the mid the midwest
00:24:11.220and then houston they got a hold of them and said donald by the way and i know this because i worked
00:24:16.500on keystone right they they consume 12 million barrels of oil per day they make nine and then
00:24:23.860donald said drill baby drill it's like donald you can drill baby drill but not all oils are the same
00:24:32.260so the oil that you're short those three million barrels those four million barrels you get from
00:24:36.900us actually he gets three million from us because we send four they keep three and they send three
00:24:41.540one back up north to to ontario it takes a really so the three he gets from us every day
00:24:48.100is very heavy crude that they burnt that they distill in their refineries to make diesel
00:24:54.980and they can't make and so donald can drill baby drill all he wants he won't find that
00:25:00.740crude in his territory he'll find a little bit of it in california but it's in california like
00:25:06.340you know and then and then everybody said well then we can import it from venezuela that's fine
00:25:11.540you can so you're choosing to import from venezuela instead of from canada a nato ally and
00:25:17.300you think that venezuela is going to give you a great deal because you just cancelled the deal
00:25:21.300with uh with canada and there's still a technical problem because the oil that break if you brought
00:25:27.460in the oil from venezuela the keystone pipeline that goes to all those refineries it's going in
00:25:32.260in one direction so now he brought you so anyways if i know it trump knew it and his advisors knew
00:25:38.640it and somebody tapped him on the shoulder and said maybe maybe we go 10 on oil so um because
00:25:47.820the other tariffs sure people could replace you know what's what what do we sell apple juice he'll
00:25:53.140go get it from somewhere else lumber he'll get it from somewhere else but i expected it on oil
00:25:58.380we could have crippled him and that's the other thing i mean like we we think we're small we could
00:26:04.460have crippled him on a couple of things man the oil would have been crippling like if we shut off
00:26:08.420the oil it'd be a bit crippling and our potash man if we shut off our potash whole potash is huge
00:26:13.920yeah totally and actually i spoke to somebody else about this i'll i'll give credit to it's
00:26:20.060david parker where me and david had a chat on this like i asked david because every election
00:26:24.800is one like on the mark on the edges right like even the even the trump election looks like it
00:26:29.780was big wasn't a big win man he still had to uh flip pennsylvania and wisconsin and a couple of
00:26:36.540key states like that so i asked david i'm like if you if if you had to retaliate for real
00:26:41.520where would you hit and he picked like three states with a where with about only a million
00:26:47.920votes but they were mostly farmer states like it's like yeah you you you shut off the potash
00:26:53.140going to the to iowa and uh and ohio and places like that man those guys will turn the farmers0.97
00:26:59.700they'll turn on trump so fast yeah so luckily we didn't get there but we do yeah we did we did have
00:27:06.260a couple in the chamber i mean we could we could technically retaliate but yeah well yeah so to
00:27:12.420your original question danielle was diplomatic god love her for that i'm not you know she she1.00
00:27:17.700did a good job i don't think it was one-on-one with trump but her one-on-ones with a whole bunch
00:27:22.100of other people and sending a bunch of energy guys to to supplement what trump's own guys
00:27:28.100would have been saying to him for sure yeah and when you say cripple the united states
00:27:34.420that would still have an effect on us too like if we're not selling that so it it's
00:27:42.660it's mutually agree yeah what's the term for nuclear energy uh mutually assured destruction
00:27:47.940yeah like why would we want to go there i don't want to go there man like no so the other thought
00:27:53.380is um i've seen a lot of demonization of daniel smith for even going to the united states and
00:28:01.780having these conversations and that to me is insane that she is actively embracing diplomacy
00:28:10.660and getting demonized for that and that doesn't make sense to me but the worst one was nenshi
00:28:17.940Sorry, James. Sorry to interrupt your thought.
00:28:24.920Again, acting in self-interest, and what we're going to see more of is these things that get revealed, it's going to be used solely for political gain.
00:28:38.240so even oil being as much of a big big deal right now and if they say like well look at how critical
00:28:46.120like look at how much we're relying on oil and if we didn't sell this oil that would cripple
00:28:51.800our economy then they'll just say well we need more wind farms we need more solar and we need
00:28:59.800more evs so they're going to use it to continue to push their goals even though the reality doesn't
00:29:06.700match up, it's going to be used. That's what I'm most curious about is how all these revelations
00:29:13.820are just going to be used to double down. I want to unpack that one in a second.
00:29:19.120I'm circling EVs because we got to come back to EVs. But I do like, Nenshi was disgusting.
00:29:25.580Like Nenshi literally put out a tweet two days ago that said, Albertans deserve a leader that0.90
00:29:34.480will work for canada i'm like what kind of mental gymnastics is that it's like no no no no no no no
00:29:42.720no albertans deserve a leader that will work for albertans within the context of canada absolutely
00:29:50.160but if canada is not cooperating then then like we don't bend to the rest of canada like people
00:29:56.240are saying they didn't like you know oh congratulations trudeau you didn't bend to trump
00:30:00.960but bad danielle because you didn't bend to trudeau well she should be on the same team as us i'm0.98
00:30:07.280like maybe i'm on team trump for this one i don't know right like oh nenshi's takes on this were
00:30:12.480brutal then she we should just be happy that the tweet wasn't uh from nenshi albertans albertans
00:30:20.000deserve a premier who will work for brussels or for davos or for something like they may as well
00:30:25.200be right might as well be i actually that's a great i i use that kind of example when i'm
00:30:30.400sometimes when i'm making a point i will take somebody's tweet and just change one word in it
00:30:35.500we all do that right you change one word and you go and then people go well that's disgusting i'm0.53
00:30:39.800like yeah does the logic carry in the logic carries exactly so um i i want to go back to evs like yes
00:30:47.520that's that look at look at how the narrative look at how the liberal narrative collapsed in
00:30:53.340not just because of Trump but also because of the election you know they're like suddenly they're
00:30:57.980moving away from the carbon tax they're moving away from net zero they're moving from so a lot
00:31:03.360of things they're moving away is I see three reasons one they're moving to the center because
00:31:09.120that's where Canadians are so they think they went too far left so they're moving to the center0.99
00:31:13.480they'll say they're moving on their own I think that Pierre is pulling them to the center but
00:31:20.040trump is pulling them as much right like right now anybody can say whatever they want trump is this
00:31:25.720big giant mass in the middle of the continent and he's a he's gravity he's a supernova and we're
00:31:31.400being you know lights not escaping so we're all so whatever policy you have as an example when trump
00:31:36.440said um i'm canceling um uh dei policies or net zero like 14 banks followed in suit including
00:31:46.920five here in canada said we're done with our dei policies instantly it's like wow what was what
00:31:52.120why were you doing it in the first place wow you know and the excuse was always well it made
00:31:57.640business sense or whatever it's like no it doesn't you did it because he did it so um so the lip and
00:32:03.960so they they reversed that but yeah on evs like last week what did they say well we should impose
00:32:10.040a like i'm sure freeland said we should impose a hundred percent tariff on um on teslas i'm like
00:32:17.640but but but but a month ago you're telling us that by 2035 all cars sold in in canada have to be
00:32:23.560electric you know like oh my god yeah they were they were saying that thing yeah that's ew plant
00:32:30.280that's not going to exist yeah they were spiting themselves is that the correct expression to uh
00:32:34.920cut off your nose to spite your face yeah that's what they were doing like they were
00:32:40.460you know yeah it was it was uh and and we gave the example of uh of francois legault who like
00:32:46.880a week ago was like hey we should all be team canada we should have diversified the economy
00:32:50.500we should be selling oil to whoever and then the tariffs are gone can we build a pipeline across
00:32:55.180quebec nope i mean the quebecers the quebecers by canadian by canadian by canadian by canadian
00:33:00.400like he literally said in france we have to we have to tighten our belts kind of thing and we
00:33:06.640have to buy canadian and and for the next little while you know buy canadian buy canadian as soon
00:33:11.600as the tariffs were lifted everybody's like okay well i'm going back to florida yeah nobody even
00:33:16.480left florida to come back home like there's a million quebecers in florida right now a million
00:33:21.280of them million snowbirds and yeah telling me that i'm an albertan and i'm bad and i should
00:33:28.160be on team canada while you spend six months of the year in florida okay sure like here's a simple
00:33:36.880little question how much how much the oil you like how much of the gasoline in quebec is canadian
00:33:46.000about uh about 10 percent it's it's very minuscule by canadian except in this case
00:33:55.760yeah i mean the the oil in uh i have videos of this because i worked in quebec i mean you see
00:34:01.960you see the little tankers coming up to saint lawrence right up to quebec city and then they
00:34:06.500unload their crude there's a refinery in quebec city and there's one in montreal the one in
00:34:10.880montreal can find a way to get some crude from the u.s but like i said it's taking a torturous
00:34:17.300pass from canada the ones in quebec city are getting all their crude uh up to the unfrozen
00:34:24.180section of the saint lawrence and then i love this argument i mean people people in uh people in that
00:34:29.620part of the world say our oil our gasoline comes from uh irving refinery in saint john new brunswick
00:34:34.900i'm like okay yeah where did god get it yeah you got me your gasoline is quote unquote
00:34:41.540made in canada but the raw materials for it came from dude i've had people say well quebec doesn't
00:34:48.900and buy gasoline the refineries do or whatever i'm like oh my god like people oh please yeah
00:34:54.400yeah yeah you get the same kind of bullshit where it's like well these peppers were grown in0.84
00:35:01.480argentina like packed in spain and then like now brought to canada and yeah or they're like they0.97
00:35:08.700put a stamp on it they're like yeah they're canadian peppers because we we touched them
00:35:14.060in one can like at one point of the chain we did something and now they're canadian the food the
00:35:21.360food industry is terrible for that right like packaged in versus made in versus sourced in like
00:35:27.660they they play games it's uh yeah i wish we could put a made in canada sticker on the gas pumps or
00:35:35.360or just where it's made i wish that everybody in in quebec who lifted the nozzle had a little
00:35:41.320sticker that says you know Qatar uh Saudi Arabia whatever Oman just just show where your gasoline
00:35:48.520came from yeah yeah I wonder if that would have an effect on on how on people's perceptions because
00:35:53.940I mean I don't know what the what the average Quebecer believes but you gotta think that like
00:35:59.400even even the most like you know anti-Albertan Quebecer would would still probably prefer Alberta
00:36:06.620oil to saudi oil right like you'd have to think that they've been yes you'd have to think they
00:36:14.300would they don't they've been they've been so they've been conditioned to not even think about
00:36:21.240the fact that they're burning gasoline yeah like they they they they they justify burning gasoline
00:36:29.260by saying well we're pretty green on everything else like i have like for them burning gasoline
00:36:35.380in a car is just a uh what's the word it's just a necessary evil and and and um at this point for
00:36:45.220them whether it came from canada or us or uh saudi arabia is irrelevant for them both are bad and so
00:36:52.560since they're both bad i'll take the one that's closest to us that's literally their way of
00:36:57.400thinking about it they've they've justified it in their heads i mean like i talk about this all the
00:37:02.060time i i tweet about this about every six months because i love picking on quebecers like you know1.00
00:37:07.100and um like they buy more they buy more trucks than albertans do like is that right like just
00:37:13.020oh just in sheer numbers man there's like there's there's nine million quebecers and there's only
00:37:17.660you know five million albertans so ford sells more f-150s in quebec than they do in alberta
00:37:23.740and people go oh well that's on a per capita basis i'm like i'm glad you brought that up
00:37:27.580you guys buy more quebecers buy more gasoline powered vehicles per capita than anywhere else
00:37:32.540in the country they love cars man they love cars and then and then trucks have outsold cars in
00:37:38.780quebec since 2014. but but when you show that to them they're not hypocrites those are just
00:37:45.580necessary evils that there's no replacement we're good because in their mind their their their
00:37:52.620environmental footprint is uh nine times better than ours because they got electricity that's it
00:37:59.460like it's it's it's it's argument these are things that feel good on the surface they're done because
00:38:06.100well like well if we do a b and c then we're we're the good people we're the moral and it's top down
00:38:14.100you just you kind of like assert what is moral yeah and now it just yeah i just assume that
00:38:20.720Every Quebecer is driving a 1970s Renault 10.
00:38:25.340They are actually, not 1970s, but they do, again, they love their cars.