When Will Alberta be Ready for an Independence Referendum？ feat. Martyupnorth
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Summary
In this episode of the Conservative Lens podcast, I sit down with my good friend and long-time friend, John Rocha, to talk about the upcoming referendum on equalization with Canada. We talk about what the referendum means for Canada, why we should vote yes or no on the referendum question, and what we should do if we don't get a majority in the referendum.
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the divorce analogy or the the marriage analogy is very good in this situation it it it resonates
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very much with a lot of people right like you you you at some point you're taking you're talking
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talking talking about divorce you've been unhappy for years you just gotta jump in with you know
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throw caution to the wind and and get divorced you you you you you'll figure out where you're
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going to live you'll figure out who you'll marry down the road you'll figure out what will happen
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but you can't overthink about it you gotta do it that's why i'm excited about the referendum the
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referendum i'm excited about the referendum because it is that it is throw caution to the
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wind and get it done but i'm scared shitless of the referendum because when i look in the last 80
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years and in alberta and in canada there's there's rarely ever been any issue that has garnered uh 50
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of the you know the popular vote no it's it's been it's been not since the 1970s i think that we've
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had a an actual federal party win the popular vote like with a real majority and then even issues
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locally like we we had a referendum here on uh should you know should we end equalization and
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we still didn't get 60 on that i'm like wow like you'd think that that would be a no-brainer
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you know i i guess the only thing we all agree on is climate change apparently 97 of us agree the
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man-made climate change but yeah you know that that worries me that getting if the referendum rule is 50
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or or higher like most referendums in in recent history in the u.s have required super majorities
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which is like 66.6 i mean or if that was the rule i i would say pump the brakes like pump the brakes
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yeah it's gonna take some more time to brew yeah um and i i just had a couple key kind of observations
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of the dynamic that's going on so you've got the alberta prosperity project and they're they're
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paving the way they've got a lot of support they've got a lot of communication going on they've got some
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good messaging uh decent framework with their website they're maybe pushing a little bit too fast
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they seem a little confident overconfident on a few things that they're jumping in without maybe
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giving that full time for for that support to build outside of these town halls which may give them a
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perspective that the support is actually higher than what it actually is and i don't see the alberta
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republicans being something that can't coexist beside i i think there's a place and if people are worried
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about the alberta republicans hurting the movement they should be concerned about the ucp hurting the
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movement or the ucp doing things that will ultimately hurt conservatives or or change the
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the perception of of what conservatives like if we should trust any of them that's an argument that
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that's a a great argument that's brought up frequently like if you're worried about the
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republicans splitting the vote and the ndp getting in then you've just told me then we're not ready for
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a referendum and we might as well forget about it altogether because if if generally speaking
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the ndp will not vote for uh a separation so if you think that ndp are still a threat and you use
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that as an excuse to discount one or the other options you're dead in the water so um yeah no i
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i i think this is my observation there's still personalities at play right there's like in both
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groups there's there's personalities that have been at this now for 20 30 or 40 years and many have done
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this and i've got and and are still doing it and those personalities the egos are getting in the way
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that's that's one of my biggest fear right now is the egos are going to get in the way