The Crusty Canuck Podcast - Interview with Zuzana Janosova Den Boer

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen it is september 7th 2020 coming up in the question

00:00:06.940 connect podcast i have a very special guest her name is susanna janisova den bohr a czechosavacian

00:00:14.720 immigrant who came to canada in 1997 who witnessed the eastern bloc communism and

00:00:20.060 is basically seeing the same similarities in today's canadian politics stay tuned

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00:00:34.100 canungold.corporation well ladies and gentlemen like i said we got a special episode uh in line

00:00:40.440 for us today i will be talking to a miss susanna janisova den bohr and with me right now is no

00:00:49.420 other than herself susanna hi what's that welcome to the crusty connect podcast

00:00:53.720 hello uh how are you not too bad how are you doing not too bad excellent beautiful ever day

00:01:03.640 yes of course it's a beautiful day isn't it for now well you can tell that summer is uh

00:01:09.040 starting to fizzle out and we're getting into the autumn season so uh susanna please tell my

00:01:15.800 listeners out there just uh your basic background uh let's say where you're from like where you're

00:01:21.060 born where you're from uh how you grew up and uh when you came to canada okay thank you for giving me

00:01:30.220 this opportunity so um my name is susanna janisova den bohr and i was born and raised in communist

00:01:37.940 czechoslovakia uh so basically i grew up in totalitarian system and i know very well how uh propaganda is

00:01:49.960 working um i spent basically all my childhood and early adulthood uh in totalitarian communist system

00:01:59.880 and i have to admit that at the time i didn't know uh what communism is and how oppressive it is because

00:02:09.880 i didn't know exactly what is real freedom so uh i believe that we will have chance to talk about

00:02:18.960 without in detail so but uh um coming back to the point uh i moved to canada in 1997

00:02:27.320 at the time czechoslovakia did not exist it was slovakia and czech republic both countries they've been

00:02:35.920 claimed as democratic countries so i'm not political refugee i was always thinking to escape communist

00:02:47.080 czechoslovakia but i was very worried about my family because i knew that communists they would punish

00:02:55.120 entire family if i would run away but i mean spanish meaning that basically to strip them of any

00:03:03.920 position in their work my siblings they would have a problem to get in school uh my mom and dad

00:03:13.600 they would probably lose their jobs and uh definitely they would have a problem to work in their field

00:03:20.960 uh so and and uh probably i would not see them again so uh it was definitely very difficult

00:03:33.200 so that's uh for the beginning you know about me i see i see so uh growing up in in that system um

00:03:44.160 like your essay said too um starting in the early 80s there was a depletion of resources i.e basic

00:03:52.560 um basic items like groceries like milk meat cheese um and other other items

00:03:58.880 well uh uh we uh czechoslovakia was democratic part uh country until 1948 once or 46 once communists they

00:04:17.680 they realized that they have to support of majority they called for election and that's when we had last

00:04:24.480 time democratic election and lots of people they they've been enthusiastic about building new socialist

00:04:34.160 system with free health care free uh education and justice for all and all this beautiful stuff so

00:04:44.960 in uh 50 60s also after second war they they concentrated on building society they did not

00:04:54.160 understand understand that if government if they will eliminate private business and government will run

00:05:02.960 basically all businesses or infrastructure and everything uh what uh representing production uh of society

00:05:15.680 or factories they did not understand that the government it's never ever efficient

00:05:23.680 owner owner so all this started to show up in 80s when we started to have a lack of food lack of

00:05:34.480 i don't know for example toilet paper and uh groceries uh vegetables so uh slowly society started to change to

00:05:47.200 uh very inefficient system uh meaning that uh uh very soon was very important who do you know and not what do you know

00:06:00.000 and so uh over over decades uh society become more and more corrupt people they don't understand that uh when you have private business uh

00:06:16.640 uh uh private owners they have to be efficient with their decisions how they will spend money

00:06:24.560 if uh if they don't they can go bankrupt oh of course basic marketing yeah um yeah so when when we are

00:06:35.360 making decisions about our own money we are thinking how we will spend them and

00:06:42.080 what kind of product what kind of quality of product we will get to for what we are spending but if we are managing

00:06:49.120 other people money or we don't think this way and this is exactly what is happening with government

00:06:56.960 so uh in any communist country everything was run by government we had private business prior

00:07:06.640 uh second war uh second war and early after second war until communists they came to power and it took them

00:07:16.080 over 10 years to nationally sorry nationalize uh all industry they started with bigger companies of course

00:07:24.800 and then they go they went down to smaller and smaller companies um first they you know they started to also

00:07:34.400 with some uh loans for private companies and the ownership in private companies until they took completely everything so they made

00:07:48.480 people dependent on them that's why communism always hate private business because they cannot control them

00:07:57.600 mm-hmm but uh people they they become uh fully dependent on government uh government is controlling them

00:08:06.000 mm-hmm so basically the nanny state

00:08:10.240 all freedom is gone yeah so uh inefficient system of course it was showed in in uh production of anything

00:08:19.040 because we had to fulfill uh our production plan so let's say uh communist party of czechoslovakia set up that

00:08:29.440 different this amount of certain product must be produced which was we met that but they did not ask

00:08:37.920 if uh people uh wants this i want this uh product to basically uh production was not reflecting markets

00:08:49.040 so we had uh lots of products in in storages you know it was huge waste wow so basically all the resources pooled

00:09:00.640 for the sake of the government rather than for what the people needed exactly yeah because uh you know market

00:09:09.360 is a good factor showing what people they want what is you know and to which product will be sold at what price

00:09:19.200 nothing like that when government is running everything they they set up price they they set up what product

00:09:27.680 will we produce uh how much will we produce how how many products we will have of certain type of clothes

00:09:36.000 shoes whatever and and if people that they don't buy then you know it's a waste that's it

00:09:45.680 wow that's yeah and that's funny because we basically went through the same thing um like when we were

00:09:55.200 taking uh social classes in high school in regards to production what was needed and how the communist

00:10:01.760 model failed um like i mentioned to you before when we had a little phone call there when i was about 16

00:10:09.120 oh yeah we're like rah-rah communism school and then something like tiananmen square happened and we were

00:10:15.600 all basically glued to the tv sets when we watched uh the result of uh of said uprising and it was scary

00:10:24.800 and luckily enough shortly thereafter um you grew up understanding that your communism failed uh berlin

00:10:32.000 wall came down and a lot of these former eastern bloc countries just said okay that's it we've had enough 0.91

00:10:37.120 we're going back to democracy this is it um kind of kind of a a great chapter in the world history as

00:10:43.760 far as i'm concerned you know uh let's say especially with the wall coming down too in berlin opening

00:10:48.880 things up opening markets letting people do what they want to do to flourish and to thrive now based on

00:10:55.840 your experiences growing up in the former uh czechoslovakia what are the similarities you see today that

00:11:02.960 remind you of uh of your youth of you growing up in in said system

00:11:12.960 well my first i would say very beginning uh started in 2015 when we had provincial election of alberta

00:11:22.960 and i have to be honest when ndp won

00:11:25.920 uh people i understand that people here they don't have experience with propaganda but lots of

00:11:36.720 us who grew up in communism we understand propaganda and many of us can recognize to my surprise there was

00:11:46.240 rhetoric which i heard from some ndp members and even from former premier of alberta

00:11:56.240 they remind me rhetoric of our communist uh to stand against uh private business specifically

00:12:08.800 uh they use the climate change for that and uh i at the time i really had a hard time to understand why i'm

00:12:23.200 hearing the same words uh when it's coming to climate change which i heard from our communist 0.79

00:12:31.200 um so i did lots of research and then i realized that you know uh basically to win communists they they use

00:12:45.120 old kgb method which i described in my article and as a first thing they always polarize society

00:12:53.280 they had to divide people they had to turn people against each other so our communists in czechoslovakia

00:13:03.280 they turn public against private business they had to label somehow private business in our case

00:13:13.040 they label private business and persuade a public that private business want to exploit them they used to

00:13:22.480 literally marxist terms now what i could see that because this cannot be used directly anymore it was used in

00:13:33.360 in the past indirectly it's used in climate change saying that private business is destroying

00:13:41.920 our planet and there is no coincident that first they went after oil and gas industry it's a strong industry

00:13:52.880 and i mean uh wealthy industry you know it's producing lots of revenue so there there is reason why they went

00:14:04.720 first after oil and gas industry at the time people they did not realize that this is just start then they

00:14:13.200 will go after farmers after rent and so on until they will bank up every single private owner or they will take

00:14:28.880 or they will basically take more and more ownership in private companies so uh first was to to to to

00:14:42.640 turn public again again private business now they they add also some new tools which i have to admit we didn't have

00:14:54.880 before too much and i call them identity tools meaning turning uh genders yeah like uh women against men

00:15:06.880 i come to the movement me too as a one of that tool or for example racist this is the most recent one

00:15:17.200 like uh uh this black life mothers is marxist movement so to create as much as possible cause anarchy and 1.00

00:15:30.960 uh uh uh slowly people that are then basically losing perception of reality yeah the mob mentality

00:15:42.080 exactly to turn to mob mentality so divide and concur that's absolutely it's the first uh stage and uh uh

00:15:53.680 uh very very very you know powerful and uh uh all these tools which i just described meaning uh going after private

00:16:05.760 business going uh you know to to to create uh uh to create problems between both genders or or between races

00:16:17.840 uh uh all this uh all this together you know it's it's just how much to uh they can polarize all society and

00:16:27.600 turn uh people against each other they are definitely going after

00:16:34.240 families they don't want to see strong families it's just pretend and

00:16:40.480 uh uh uh they always use slogan justice for all or uh you know social justice whatever you know that

00:16:52.560 the this is this is uh war which uh it always was working on people and it's a robbing uh i would say

00:17:03.200 almost asian feelings uh people they always uh uh striving you know for for justice so

00:17:13.440 uh they also like to use uh the feeling of victimhood we've all seen that yes yeah the whole victim mentality

00:17:24.880 exactly so i i remember all these communist movies of propaganda where

00:17:30.320 every single private owner look like somebody who is very well thought and uh was arrogant was very

00:17:40.080 well dressed and then they showed somebody uh who was uh let's say worker who was uh looking very poor

00:17:51.680 and it was thin and and somebody who is lacking food and was uh decent and polite so they they always try to show

00:18:04.400 that uh uh whoever is not owner of uh private business is a victim of all those owners of private business

00:18:14.880 who will exploit them so because at the same time they had to make a lot of promises so uh

00:18:28.240 free healthcare and free education that was again what i started to watch so they don't teach children

00:18:36.160 okay okay or people that nothing like free healthcare and free education exists to my knowledge

00:18:44.880 all doctors are paid all teachers and professors are paid okay so if government is paying them where

00:18:55.040 government is uh getting money from well it's getting from taxpayers of course of course they don't

00:19:01.680 understand and they don't teach them and they don't teach them that the stronger private sector more money

00:19:09.280 we have for public sector so i didn't see uh this division before 2015 uh maybe it was but

00:19:21.760 definitely was not visible to my eyes so uh all this rhetoric all sudden was standing in my face when i

00:19:30.640 explained to to my husband who is born raised calgaryen i would say uh uh born and raised here in calgary

00:19:41.680 he asked me to write article on indoctrination the thing is that people they don't realize

00:19:48.640 it takes the case to condition people and to brainwash them yeah condition uh uh them to believe that

00:19:59.760 to demand freedom is selfish that's where we are now okay uh but once you you indoctrinate people

00:20:12.960 it's impossible to reprogram them during 24 hours it it's a very deep psychological damage

00:20:23.840 so i described those stages kgb stages in my article and uh article was published at the beginning of 2019

00:20:34.560 um first time spencer fernando uh published that now i have to say that uh in modified form was also

00:20:44.560 uh published in united states germany australia outstanding so the world's getting the world will

00:20:53.440 get a good chance to see it and ladies and gentlemen listeners across the night podcast i will leave a link in

00:20:58.560 the description in regards to said article it is very articulate very sincere very real and it comes

00:21:05.520 from a first person account so by no means ladies and gentlemen is this article um ad-libbed or done

00:21:13.200 off the cuff it comes from a real person that grew up in a system that has done nothing but oppress millions

00:21:19.360 and kill millions too if i'm correct of course uh zuzana well absolutely we were saying that it's better to be read than

00:21:29.200 that for reason you you mentioned that uh well after when uh berlin wall was finally destroyed uh people

00:21:42.640 they decided to go back to democracy well we didn't have any uh sorry we didn't have any options for

00:21:50.160 decision before once we had election we had only option which day we will vote first or second because

00:21:58.240 we had two days for for election uh we had two parties both they've been one was communist party of

00:22:05.520 czechoslovakia the second one was socialist party of czechoslovakia which was basically the same

00:22:11.680 so there was absolutely no option whom we can vote now uh voting was mandatory the police would go to

00:22:21.120 your house or apartment you know so uh you just don't want to mess up with them that's what it is

00:22:31.760 so basically fear was instilled in you from the time you were uh walking and talking until you actually

00:22:37.840 left uh the slovakian republic well uh huge distrust because uh once uh society become bankrupt sorry

00:22:50.720 bankrupt uh almost we were we were going there but uh corrupt uh you realize that uh all those tools

00:23:00.160 which uh communist party is using for keeping people under control and uh literally oppressed and

00:23:10.000 one of many was for example secret police or uh they use informers they they train up from childhood to be

00:23:21.680 snitches to report on each other that's why when uh i read in newspaper some some uh encouragement now

00:23:35.840 from different provincial governments asking people to report to anybody who doesn't have a mask

00:23:42.160 of because of because of kobe 19 i was shocked uncanny isn't it the similarities were very uncanny aren't they

00:23:53.040 i i was shocked to to to again because i i saw that in the past and i know where this is going okay and

00:24:02.000 just again not a tool how to divide people so uh you know they are saying that

00:24:13.600 road to hell is paved by good thinking or by goals something like good intentions so we have to be by good

00:24:21.520 intentions yes so we have to see wise what we're doing so the fear was everywhere absolutely i remember

00:24:30.080 in when i was attending university classes during communist regime we knew exactly which student was

00:24:39.360 collaborating with secret police we knew their name they did not try even to hide to hide because in some

00:24:49.040 way they had power so fear was everywhere everybody was watching what did they are saying freedom of speech

00:24:58.560 we didn't know what is freedom

00:25:02.880 that's all so what would you say now to the kids and i will say kids because i think you and i can

00:25:10.560 both agree too when you see a functioning 20 something individual out there holding a sign

00:25:17.200 in the name of social justice and all this other half-assed oppression olympics 0.97

00:25:22.240 what would you say to these students right now if you had a chance uh especially the ones that have

00:25:28.240 protested against free speech freedom of association and assembly um let's sum it up more or less i've

00:25:34.960 actually engaged in conversations with some of these students in regards to their proletariat beliefs

00:25:39.600 what would you say to these students right now if you had the chance to 1.00

00:25:45.840 well that number one they are used useful idiots they are used for somebody else political agenda 1.00

00:25:55.040 they are used for somebody else to to basically to grab power or to come to absolute power 1.00

00:26:07.520 they they are becoming the tool they those people who are behind them they don't show face they let

00:26:17.440 those children to do job for them that's what they are doing i fully understand that uh you know

00:26:27.840 well we are saying that if you are young and you are socialist that means you have a heart 0.92

00:26:35.920 but if you are in your 40s and you are still socialist that means you don't have a brain

00:26:42.000 well said and this is where i'm going uh there is reason of why a lot of uh uh future dictators 0.84

00:26:57.840 they are engaging specifically young people and i would say the most vulnerable uh age is between 16 to

00:27:07.920 probably 23 24 depends on low maturity uh and uh you know in this age we want to you know create something

00:27:21.200 new build something new we want to really have everybody to have equal opportunity and we are naturally

00:27:30.320 more emotional and and standing against oppression and what else we don't have the life experience

00:27:37.760 regarding economy we don't uh we didn't have a chance yet to establish our families to pay our bills to

00:27:48.720 to interact inside society and that's what the future dictators they they they need they need people

00:27:57.600 which still they don't have life experience because more we will enter this stage and we are let's say

00:28:05.600 in 30 to 40 all of a sudden we realize that there is no free lunch and if we will uh subsidize this this and this

00:28:19.600 then that uh our taxes will go up and i don't have so basically enough money to feed my children okay

00:28:30.560 so all of a sudden we wanted to see system to work efficiently and efficiency will be more important

00:28:39.200 for us and then slowly we are realizing that that's the way actually how to achieve justice

00:28:48.080 through efficiency not through emotions exactly so uh if you know what i mean so uh

00:28:55.520 uh in this age category between 16 to 24 we have this tendency to be more emotional it's uh it's a part of

00:29:08.720 growing up and we still don't have this live experience and when you start to look what happened in history

00:29:18.800 for example um one of the most known dictators let's uh let's call hitler okay he used children big time

00:29:31.360 oh of course communists those little brown shirts yes exactly the they use also children uh the moment when 0.57

00:29:41.600 communists they they came to power they started to control education system they say from uh

00:29:50.320 body military training uh give me child for eight years and he or she will be communist forever 0.65

00:29:58.080 they know why you know so it's easier much easier to program uh young people

00:30:07.680 people than somebody age 50 60 already have some life experience you can't do them so easily around

00:30:18.320 but young children which they have nothing to compare to so my first message to them is that

00:30:27.200 they are literally used for somebody else political purpose there is also one more and and uh i don't want

00:30:36.400 it to sound a little bit arrogant and it's uh it was said by lenin he called people who who 0.98

00:30:46.960 he used for for his revolution he called them useful idiots yeah i've heard that term before yeah 0.99

00:30:55.840 and that is because it it was very easy to play with their emotions 0.99

00:31:01.600 mm-hmm and they always they had good heart but they've been very altruistic yeah yeah exactly they're

00:31:13.040 very impressionable and like i said uh when i was 16 i thought yeah yeah rah rah you know read all the way 0.78

00:31:20.240 because you know i was 16 and i was an idiot you know you you don't know what you want in your life 0.67

00:31:26.080 when you're 16 until you get out and get some actual life experience and because of my experiences 0.97

00:31:31.760 overseas in my 20 years in the service i understand walking the line doing what you're told doing the

00:31:37.360 best you can with what you got and following orders and everything and now that i'm out of the service

00:31:42.960 i'm not in that frame of thinking anymore but i served my country in defense of my country

00:31:49.600 and like you come 2015 i would see a difference too in these dictatorial reforms or these so-called

00:31:57.440 political reforms as our beautiful prime minister would state you know sunny ways there's a hint of 0.88

00:32:04.320 propaganda right there uh in 2012 when he was uh quoted saying he admires china china's basic

00:32:11.920 dictatorship and how they can turn their economy around on a dime it's like well what kind of economy

00:32:17.120 can you turn around under any kind of communist regime you're going to lie to people you're going

00:32:22.320 to manufacture goods for the sake of just putting people in places to make it look good but every

00:32:28.880 communist country that i've read about has gone broke one way or the other and it usually results in um

00:32:36.480 people not getting fed and just key figures of said party and getting away with the loot it's it's going

00:32:42.560 on in venezuela right now as we speak people are going through dumpsters in that country and for

00:32:47.840 what right and then you get these hollywood moguls weighing in saying oh socialism's great okay well if

00:32:53.840 you believe in socialism purely in its form you would be given half your salary to the state or two

00:33:00.640 thirds of your salary to the state and every piece of your property uh your mansions and your gated

00:33:05.520 communities and your yachts and everything would be given back to the state because i know cuba did the

00:33:11.520 exact same thing in the late 50s when they had their big cultural revolution and a lot of people died

00:33:16.880 and people fled for their lives so um i just you know i'm in total agreeance with you suzanne in

00:33:24.000 in regardless of this whole thing and considering that you've lived through it and you you're telling us

00:33:30.080 well done now when you came to canada in uh 97 what were some of the revelations you had from living in

00:33:38.880 former eastern bloc and then all of a sudden boom you're in canada what were some of the feelings

00:33:44.240 and thoughts you had if you can remember well at the time when i came canada was definitely different

00:33:51.040 than what is now unfortunately uh unfortunately what is now um to me uh this absolute support for

00:34:02.160 for individual choices um and uh even uh you know to to try anything new i felt like i got wings

00:34:14.880 literally right on i i i started my own uh business here uh i'm a engineer so i stayed in this field

00:34:25.440 the more i'm consultant for engineering companies so uh in oil and gas industry but but to generate this

00:34:37.440 absolutely positive attitude which people they had at the time here uh supportive attitude for anybody who

00:34:46.640 was trying to do that it was so much good energy i felt first time in my life truly free and supported

00:34:58.400 and i really want my children and my grandchildren to feel the same and it's disappearing and big time

00:35:07.360 absolutely big time i sorry to see i wanted to come a little bit back uh to you know maybe

00:35:15.440 second advice to these children who are protesting they can go for a few months or maybe even a few years

00:35:24.080 if they want for example to visit countries such venezuela you know and that can definitely be for them big

00:35:33.840 lesson before they will do anything else because once uh these people who wanted to uh establish

00:35:44.080 authoritarian system here in canada once they will win then all children and younger people they are

00:35:54.000 becoming property of the state just like we did uh my message also to parents you will not have a chance to

00:36:04.240 say anything what your child will be taught in school or not the regime will dictate uh message to teachers

00:36:16.000 you will have mandatory political seminars where you will be uh taught what you have to teach and what you

00:36:24.960 you cannot teach that's what is coming and that's what i see now i see it now too i agree with you yeah especially

00:36:33.280 when it comes to indoctrinating younger kids in um in sexuality and identity um it was unheard of when

00:36:41.680 i was a kid to be taught that and we had the standard okay sex ed training from the time we're 12 13 14

00:36:48.960 and it became more of a health issue if anything protect yourself from stis right and in a way there

00:36:55.280 was no identity classes i can see it now because okay homosexuality is accepted i've always accepted

00:37:02.960 it i could care less who's gay or who's not but what's scary is that you're seeing a lot of this

00:37:08.400 quote-unquote training happening to kids that are four or five six years old it's scary

00:37:17.920 exactly they even don't allow children to have their childhood yeah and and i know how my parents i i

00:37:27.920 they felt during communism they couldn't say anything what the communist party was doing with us

00:37:33.360 when we had this mandatory classes and mandatory uh seminars and mandatory questionaries and mandatory

00:37:40.720 answers everything was mandatory there was absolutely no different answer different answer meant meant

00:37:47.600 something okay how did you raise your child no my first day would be in trouble so many parents they

00:37:57.840 choose even choose even to do not discuss politics and uh at home on the top of that what communist party

00:38:06.240 was doing in communist czechoslovakia was trying to encourage children to report but their parents if

00:38:14.800 they can overhear anything at home okay communism geez but that's it coming here 0.64

00:38:23.120 again yes months ago i read already if you see anybody from your family who is not having masks and

00:38:32.960 or what else or it's probably against all this uh what do we have now outside this call with 19

00:38:40.560 questioning given that yeah right so let's report and i've done a few episodes on on people being ticketed and

00:38:51.120 uh being questioned by uh bylaw officers and police officers for not you know social distancing or wearing

00:38:58.640 a mask and it's it's uncanny like like i said it's uncanny how people are somewhat being herded like cattle

00:39:08.720 into these categories and i'm in total i'm in total agreeance with you uh when it comes to well you

00:39:15.600 for the term uh don't be a karen right like i i i've said the thing to carls and karen sitting there

00:39:21.520 pointing fingers and reporting it it's like a bad episode of watching invasion of the body snatchers

00:39:26.880 where someone's pointing and screaming all high pitched and what you're doing and what you're not

00:39:31.120 doing in in the in the name of so-called uh social justice and safety um i've engaged people on my

00:39:38.160 facebook page who are constantly you know cyber scolding me for not listening to this or not doing that

00:39:44.960 and it's one thing understanding personal safety but you and i have both seen the numbers when it

00:39:49.520 comes to the casualty rates of this pandemic and it's affecting people that are already locked away

00:39:54.640 in homes already and it's not affecting the general public just like what sars did in the early 2000s

00:40:01.200 and or what the common flu can do to people and yet they're constantly throwing us the statistics in

00:40:07.600 regard to how many people have have this now and yet you're not seeing and hearing enough from people

00:40:12.480 who have actually recovered from it and some of the advice they should be giving to my personal

00:40:18.000 physician said just keep up the vitamin d and the zinc intake drink lots of fluids and get out there and 0.92

00:40:24.480 eat healthy and just do your thing and if you do get sick give me a call and it's been six months now

00:40:31.600 i as far as i know the curve was flattened or it hasn't been flattened or it is flattened we're just not

00:40:36.160 being told it you know knock on wood it's a real poop show you know without cussing it's well okay

00:40:44.400 screw it i'm gonna cuz my show it's a real show so 0.76

00:40:48.640 well indirectly we again we have the uh we have teaching nation to to snitch on each other yeah

00:41:01.760 and that's scary what was unheard 10 years ago or maybe 15 years ago i didn't see that when i came

00:41:09.680 here quite hopefully you know and now it's becoming more and more norm more and more more of accepted

00:41:18.560 yeah more acceptable because people are doing it outside of the name of fear yes exactly so

00:41:27.440 we don't know what is coming next but once people they started to use that again it will become more

00:41:34.400 more and more normal and that's that's another word when i hear about new normans do you know how

00:41:42.400 communists they they called uh the period from 1969 until 1980s you know we had this democratic revolution

00:41:53.200 in 1968 until uh sorry soviet army uh together with with uh army from different uh uh communist

00:42:04.080 countries uh went to uh czechoslovakia and basically stopped any democratic process

00:42:12.240 they invaded us so they they crashed everything so uh once communist party again maintained control

00:42:22.640 uh they announced that now we have new period which we call normalization

00:42:32.640 we have new normal yeah so when i hear this word new normal i'm even asking myself can you at

00:42:41.200 least come with different terms please because it reminds you because i grew up in this new normal

00:42:48.160 i know what is new normal yeah and a lot of us aren't buying it too um that's the thing what exactly is

00:42:56.480 this new normal we have to walk around the mask on our face like they do in beijing china because of 1.00

00:43:01.600 the pollution or because they want it that way and then when you see on on the news in regards to

00:43:07.360 deals of factories being made to produce these masks and these these breathers and everything that's 0.97

00:43:13.120 great well don't we have the industry in this country that can already do that or someone else

00:43:18.160 capitalized in that some other party capitalized on that function right it makes you think sorry what i

00:43:26.480 see as a new normal what uh our federal government wanted to achieve is full dependence on that yeah

00:43:35.440 basically to destroy uh businesses specifically small ones because uh it's harder to go to control them

00:43:43.600 uh and uh uh with with the different loans they can also take under control big businesses

00:43:52.160 and uh uh as i said to make people dependent on government and once they achieve that then they have

00:44:01.600 control on people's lives and then i'm telling okay if you don't speak now you won't speak later

00:44:10.720 there won't be any chance to speak later then you have to only practice two

00:44:18.320 trades the first one is obedience and the second one is servitude this is what we had as the option

00:44:26.880 so yeah so it's everything it's all together it's all packaged together i would say

00:44:35.760 yeah well that is scary because we see our federal government who has squandered billions

00:44:40.720 in the name of others um taking control of our oil and gas right basically put it on hold create

00:44:48.080 some kind of half-assed legislature that wants everything to be gender parity yada yada yada which 0.97

00:44:54.160 is nothing but just verbal diarrhea and now they've screwed the farmers too and now they've incorporated fear 0.96

00:45:02.160 into our daily lives so i can see the totalitarian dictatorship rearing its ugly head

00:45:08.080 right and considering that you have lived through that before i'm sure it is just a vivid reminder of

00:45:15.440 what was and what possibly may be so my listeners like to know too uh suzanna how do you feel let's say

00:45:23.920 about the upcoming throne speech coming up on the 23rd and what do you think mr potato or correction our

00:45:31.120 prime minister and i use that term loosely uh is actually going to try to say and try to promote

00:45:39.520 come the 23rd of september

00:45:43.520 well i think he will try to use it in climate change and uh green propaganda big time because it's

00:45:51.920 already working is uh canada um that's how he won the last election and as i said before yes uh liberal

00:46:05.520 party has minority but socialists they have majority in federal government um and all them they use uh

00:46:14.000 uh uh climate change and green propaganda i also think that uh they will use kobe 19 again to impose

00:46:25.280 fear and excuses and justification for more spending

00:46:33.760 uh unfortunately people they lost fear from debt

00:46:37.600 they don't understand that all this money they have to be paid yeah they have to be paid by somebody

00:46:48.400 they won't disappear they are attached to certain interest we have to pay this interest they call that

00:46:56.800 serving debt people they don't ask question how much monthly we will pay

00:47:03.760 and how many schools and hospitals and services they could be built and done with with this money

00:47:16.880 there is no accountability uh i have a feeling that uh lots of canadians now they leave for just moment

00:47:26.560 now and who cares what they will belated it's not accountability to future generations

00:47:34.000 and uh not taking their responsibility so what i'm expecting from the september 23rd to just do everything to

00:47:47.840 number one to keep people in fear and number two to still sway their way of green propaganda economy 0.90

00:48:00.320 now i know that this is uh connected with united nations goal so uh

00:48:11.280 i think uh that that's what will be and i think that this also will be supported by by

00:48:18.560 uh few political parties which they are in federal government sorry federal house of common

00:48:25.600 um so he'll need um so he makes this legislation if he does pass any kind of green green green propaganda

00:48:34.800 he'll have to have backing because of his minority status yeah and he does he does he has ndp he has green party

00:48:44.160 and i believe that even block webcast would support us so um i don't think that uh conservative party of

00:48:54.880 canada can do too much

00:48:56.480 mm-hmm okay

00:48:58.560 exactly so uh and i'm expecting that uh mr trugel will stay in parlor that uh and he will continue with

00:49:08.640 whatever he wanted to do

00:49:09.920 mm-hmm that's scary isn't it it's a scary reality

00:49:17.440 well uh we had small discussion before and uh you know my uh stand or that

00:49:25.280 there is only one way how to change situation and not in way which many canadians they would agree with

00:49:32.800 but uh i believe that uh we have to stop to finance socialism yes no i'm in green with you too we have to

00:49:42.800 we have to unite in regards that regards to where we sit on the political fence there's nothing wrong with having

00:49:48.320 benefits to help our citizens out because we know our tax dollars are supposed to go to fund that i.e. our health care

00:49:54.960 and our education to an extent

00:49:56.960 um i remember as a teenager when we'd all sit and contemplate where we're going to go to college

00:50:02.560 university and at the time i didn't i didn't want to go because i didn't want to have some 0.99

00:50:08.160 quote-unquote quack tell me how to live my life but now every day you're seeing it more and more

00:50:15.200 you're getting these so-called professors and educators telling people how to live their lives

00:50:19.120 now you're getting elected officials telling us how to live our lives

00:50:22.320 and we are forgetting the basic principle of liberty in this country

00:50:26.880 when can we it's okay to go out again and actually farm when is it okay to go out again

00:50:31.520 and actually pursue what you want to pursue it doesn't matter if it's a trade or if it's academia

00:50:36.720 you know it's it's like we always have to walk these certain lines all the time to appease a handful

00:50:42.800 of little little dictators in training right and what's what gets me with some of these people that are

00:50:48.560 advocating a lot of these programs they come from well-to-do families too like all the freelands out 1.00

00:50:54.880 there like all the mornos out there like all the mckenna's and of course all the trudeau's out there

00:50:59.600 that were born in in quite a bit of wealth and yet blue collar folk like myself and yourself especially

00:51:08.240 you know when do we get to build things up and thrive too

00:51:11.360 you know it's scary it's scary susanna and it is yeah i absolutely really it it is very very scary

00:51:21.200 because uh there's a change it's becoming uh or it's coming slowly you know and uh people they are

00:51:29.120 accepting more and more control over the day you know and uh on the top of that they think that this

00:51:37.200 is in their best interest so it's a psychological war very nasty psychological war it is it is and

00:51:46.720 it's tough to see some people won't get through it as let's say what you and i would per se but i i would

00:51:55.360 definitely say it's probably up to people like yourself and others your supporters myself and my

00:52:01.280 supporters too to overcome it and do what we can to do our best is there anything else you'd like to

00:52:08.400 add before uh we end this interview there uh susanna well i would uh just again just uh tell something

00:52:19.520 like a reminder to those who are still quiet to speak up when it's time i don't know how much time left

00:52:28.000 but every day it's less and less and i think i read somewhere that i think this was einstein who said

00:52:40.320 that the evil is not done by those who are doing evil but by those who are letting uh dictators to do

00:52:51.280 this evil and they don't speak so he had this experience firsthand when he had to run from fascist germany

00:53:02.800 because citizens of germany did not stand up against nazi party and uh if we will not stand up for our

00:53:13.840 freedom if we will not speak up now not even tomorrow now there will be days when we can't speak

00:53:23.680 anymore

00:53:26.560 well said well said susanna well susanna thank you very much for the time you have shared with all of

00:53:33.040 us here on the crusty connect podcast i hope nothing but the best of prosperity for you and yours

00:53:40.080 and once again i appreciate you for sharing your time and your insight with us especially

00:53:46.400 to uh to cater to the trendy buzzword uh sharing your lived experience with us thank you very much

00:53:54.880 you're very welcome and thank you for inviting me not a problem you always have a home here in the

00:54:00.000 crusty connect podcast so anytime you want to say hello by all means you're more than welcome to

00:54:04.400 thank you all right thank you for showing up and uh good luck to all you and your endeavors

00:54:15.280 thank you bye bye

00:54:23.680 ladies and gentlemen that was susanna

00:54:26.320 janisova denbor i'll leave a link to her article there on uh my description page what an interesting

00:54:34.560 conversation what a well-rounded individual intelligent articulate human being and not to

00:54:40.560 mention she is a patriot of this country too and you can also find her on facebook i'll leave a link

00:54:46.400 if you want to reach out and contact her uh but ladies and gentlemen like we have said um

00:54:51.760 like i have said numerous times too um i personally want prosperity i want people to thrive i want

00:54:58.080 people to get out in the world and do the best they can with what they got and there's nothing wrong

00:55:03.520 with loving your country right so regardless of all the green propaganda going on i too want clean

00:55:09.120 water i want fresh air but we're not going to achieve that and and maintain that because the government

00:55:16.080 says so the government says so okay i do like government to a point when it's governing not

00:55:22.560 conditioning or controlling and you've heard it uh from herself there uh susanna in regards to where 0.90

00:55:27.920 she grew up and how she was brought up in instead system and she sees the similarities anyhow you guys

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00:56:16.640 gentlemen for this september 7th 2020 i have been crusty canuck a special thank you out there to

00:56:22.720 susanna for her beautiful interview and i highly suggest ladies and gentlemen read her resume it's

00:56:30.560 quite informative and it can be quite shocking to the individuals out there that have pondered

00:56:36.240 socialism as the key to success in our society and like i always say ladies and gentlemen please

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The Crusty Canuck Podcast - September 07, 2020

Interview with Zuzana Janosova Den Boer

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