Interview with Zuzana Janosova Den Boer
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Coming up in the Cranky Connect podcast, I have a very special guest, her name is Susana Janisova Den Bohr, a Czechosavacian immigrant who came to Canada in 1997, who witnessed the Eastern Bloc communism and is basically seeing the same similarities in today's Canadian politics.
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good afternoon ladies and gentlemen it is september 7th 2020 coming up in the question
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connect podcast i have a very special guest her name is susanna janisova den bohr a czechosavacian
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immigrant who came to canada in 1997 who witnessed the eastern bloc communism and
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is basically seeing the same similarities in today's canadian politics stay tuned
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canungold.corporation well ladies and gentlemen like i said we got a special episode uh in line
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for us today i will be talking to a miss susanna janisova den bohr and with me right now is no
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other than herself susanna hi what's that welcome to the crusty connect podcast
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hello uh how are you not too bad how are you doing not too bad excellent beautiful ever day
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yes of course it's a beautiful day isn't it for now well you can tell that summer is uh
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starting to fizzle out and we're getting into the autumn season so uh susanna please tell my
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listeners out there just uh your basic background uh let's say where you're from like where you're
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born where you're from uh how you grew up and uh when you came to canada okay thank you for giving me
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this opportunity so um my name is susanna janisova den bohr and i was born and raised in communist
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czechoslovakia uh so basically i grew up in totalitarian system and i know very well how uh propaganda is
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working um i spent basically all my childhood and early adulthood uh in totalitarian communist system
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and i have to admit that at the time i didn't know uh what communism is and how oppressive it is because
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i didn't know exactly what is real freedom so uh i believe that we will have chance to talk about
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without in detail so but uh um coming back to the point uh i moved to canada in 1997
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at the time czechoslovakia did not exist it was slovakia and czech republic both countries they've been
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claimed as democratic countries so i'm not political refugee i was always thinking to escape communist
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czechoslovakia but i was very worried about my family because i knew that communists they would punish
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entire family if i would run away but i mean spanish meaning that basically to strip them of any
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position in their work my siblings they would have a problem to get in school uh my mom and dad
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they would probably lose their jobs and uh definitely they would have a problem to work in their field
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uh so and and uh probably i would not see them again so uh it was definitely very difficult
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so that's uh for the beginning you know about me i see i see so uh growing up in in that system um
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like your essay said too um starting in the early 80s there was a depletion of resources i.e basic
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um basic items like groceries like milk meat cheese um and other other items
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well uh uh we uh czechoslovakia was democratic part uh country until 1948 once or 46 once communists they
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they realized that they have to support of majority they called for election and that's when we had last
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time democratic election and lots of people they they've been enthusiastic about building new socialist
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system with free health care free uh education and justice for all and all this beautiful stuff so
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in uh 50 60s also after second war they they concentrated on building society they did not
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understand understand that if government if they will eliminate private business and government will run
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basically all businesses or infrastructure and everything uh what uh representing production uh of society
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or factories they did not understand that the government it's never ever efficient
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owner owner so all this started to show up in 80s when we started to have a lack of food lack of
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i don't know for example toilet paper and uh groceries uh vegetables so uh slowly society started to change to
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uh very inefficient system uh meaning that uh uh very soon was very important who do you know and not what do you know
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and so uh over over decades uh society become more and more corrupt people they don't understand that uh when you have private business uh
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uh uh private owners they have to be efficient with their decisions how they will spend money
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if uh if they don't they can go bankrupt oh of course basic marketing yeah um yeah so when when we are
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making decisions about our own money we are thinking how we will spend them and
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what kind of product what kind of quality of product we will get to for what we are spending but if we are managing
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other people money or we don't think this way and this is exactly what is happening with government
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so uh in any communist country everything was run by government we had private business prior
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uh second war uh second war and early after second war until communists they came to power and it took them
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over 10 years to nationally sorry nationalize uh all industry they started with bigger companies of course
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and then they go they went down to smaller and smaller companies um first they you know they started to also
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with some uh loans for private companies and the ownership in private companies until they took completely everything so they made
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people dependent on them that's why communism always hate private business because they cannot control them
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mm-hmm but uh people they they become uh fully dependent on government uh government is controlling them
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all freedom is gone yeah so uh inefficient system of course it was showed in in uh production of anything
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because we had to fulfill uh our production plan so let's say uh communist party of czechoslovakia set up that
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different this amount of certain product must be produced which was we met that but they did not ask
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if uh people uh wants this i want this uh product to basically uh production was not reflecting markets
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so we had uh lots of products in in storages you know it was huge waste wow so basically all the resources pooled
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for the sake of the government rather than for what the people needed exactly yeah because uh you know market
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is a good factor showing what people they want what is you know and to which product will be sold at what price
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nothing like that when government is running everything they they set up price they they set up what product
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will we produce uh how much will we produce how how many products we will have of certain type of clothes
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shoes whatever and and if people that they don't buy then you know it's a waste that's it
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wow that's yeah and that's funny because we basically went through the same thing um like when we were
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taking uh social classes in high school in regards to production what was needed and how the communist
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model failed um like i mentioned to you before when we had a little phone call there when i was about 16
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oh yeah we're like rah-rah communism school and then something like tiananmen square happened and we were
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all basically glued to the tv sets when we watched uh the result of uh of said uprising and it was scary
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and luckily enough shortly thereafter um you grew up understanding that your communism failed uh berlin
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wall came down and a lot of these former eastern bloc countries just said okay that's it we've had enough
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we're going back to democracy this is it um kind of kind of a a great chapter in the world history as
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far as i'm concerned you know uh let's say especially with the wall coming down too in berlin opening
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things up opening markets letting people do what they want to do to flourish and to thrive now based on
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your experiences growing up in the former uh czechoslovakia what are the similarities you see today that
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remind you of uh of your youth of you growing up in in said system
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well my first i would say very beginning uh started in 2015 when we had provincial election of alberta
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uh people i understand that people here they don't have experience with propaganda but lots of
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us who grew up in communism we understand propaganda and many of us can recognize to my surprise there was
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rhetoric which i heard from some ndp members and even from former premier of alberta
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they remind me rhetoric of our communist uh to stand against uh private business specifically
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uh they use the climate change for that and uh i at the time i really had a hard time to understand why i'm
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hearing the same words uh when it's coming to climate change which i heard from our communist
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um so i did lots of research and then i realized that you know uh basically to win communists they they use
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old kgb method which i described in my article and as a first thing they always polarize society
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they had to divide people they had to turn people against each other so our communists in czechoslovakia
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they turn public against private business they had to label somehow private business in our case
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they label private business and persuade a public that private business want to exploit them they used to
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literally marxist terms now what i could see that because this cannot be used directly anymore it was used in
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in the past indirectly it's used in climate change saying that private business is destroying
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our planet and there is no coincident that first they went after oil and gas industry it's a strong industry
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and i mean uh wealthy industry you know it's producing lots of revenue so there there is reason why they went
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first after oil and gas industry at the time people they did not realize that this is just start then they
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will go after farmers after rent and so on until they will bank up every single private owner or they will take
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or they will basically take more and more ownership in private companies so uh first was to to to to
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turn public again again private business now they they add also some new tools which i have to admit we didn't have
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before too much and i call them identity tools meaning turning uh genders yeah like uh women against men
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i come to the movement me too as a one of that tool or for example racist this is the most recent one
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like uh uh this black life mothers is marxist movement so to create as much as possible cause anarchy and
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uh uh uh slowly people that are then basically losing perception of reality yeah the mob mentality
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exactly to turn to mob mentality so divide and concur that's absolutely it's the first uh stage and uh uh
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uh very very very you know powerful and uh uh all these tools which i just described meaning uh going after private
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business going uh you know to to to create uh uh to create problems between both genders or or between races
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uh uh all this uh all this together you know it's it's just how much to uh they can polarize all society and
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turn uh people against each other they are definitely going after
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families they don't want to see strong families it's just pretend and
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uh uh uh they always use slogan justice for all or uh you know social justice whatever you know that
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the this is this is uh war which uh it always was working on people and it's a robbing uh i would say
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almost asian feelings uh people they always uh uh striving you know for for justice so
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uh they also like to use uh the feeling of victimhood we've all seen that yes yeah the whole victim mentality
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exactly so i i remember all these communist movies of propaganda where
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every single private owner look like somebody who is very well thought and uh was arrogant was very
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well dressed and then they showed somebody uh who was uh let's say worker who was uh looking very poor
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and it was thin and and somebody who is lacking food and was uh decent and polite so they they always try to show
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that uh uh whoever is not owner of uh private business is a victim of all those owners of private business
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who will exploit them so because at the same time they had to make a lot of promises so uh
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free healthcare and free education that was again what i started to watch so they don't teach children
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okay okay or people that nothing like free healthcare and free education exists to my knowledge
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all doctors are paid all teachers and professors are paid okay so if government is paying them where
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government is uh getting money from well it's getting from taxpayers of course of course they don't
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understand and they don't teach them and they don't teach them that the stronger private sector more money
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we have for public sector so i didn't see uh this division before 2015 uh maybe it was but
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definitely was not visible to my eyes so uh all this rhetoric all sudden was standing in my face when i
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explained to to my husband who is born raised calgaryen i would say uh uh born and raised here in calgary
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he asked me to write article on indoctrination the thing is that people they don't realize
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it takes the case to condition people and to brainwash them yeah condition uh uh them to believe that
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to demand freedom is selfish that's where we are now okay uh but once you you indoctrinate people
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it's impossible to reprogram them during 24 hours it it's a very deep psychological damage
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so i described those stages kgb stages in my article and uh article was published at the beginning of 2019
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um first time spencer fernando uh published that now i have to say that uh in modified form was also
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uh published in united states germany australia outstanding so the world's getting the world will
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get a good chance to see it and ladies and gentlemen listeners across the night podcast i will leave a link in
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the description in regards to said article it is very articulate very sincere very real and it comes
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from a first person account so by no means ladies and gentlemen is this article um ad-libbed or done
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off the cuff it comes from a real person that grew up in a system that has done nothing but oppress millions
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and kill millions too if i'm correct of course uh zuzana well absolutely we were saying that it's better to be read than
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that for reason you you mentioned that uh well after when uh berlin wall was finally destroyed uh people
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they decided to go back to democracy well we didn't have any uh sorry we didn't have any options for
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decision before once we had election we had only option which day we will vote first or second because
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we had two days for for election uh we had two parties both they've been one was communist party of
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czechoslovakia the second one was socialist party of czechoslovakia which was basically the same
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so there was absolutely no option whom we can vote now uh voting was mandatory the police would go to
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your house or apartment you know so uh you just don't want to mess up with them that's what it is
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so basically fear was instilled in you from the time you were uh walking and talking until you actually
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left uh the slovakian republic well uh huge distrust because uh once uh society become bankrupt sorry
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bankrupt uh almost we were we were going there but uh corrupt uh you realize that uh all those tools
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which uh communist party is using for keeping people under control and uh literally oppressed and
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one of many was for example secret police or uh they use informers they they train up from childhood to be
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snitches to report on each other that's why when uh i read in newspaper some some uh encouragement now
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from different provincial governments asking people to report to anybody who doesn't have a mask
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of because of because of kobe 19 i was shocked uncanny isn't it the similarities were very uncanny aren't they
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i i was shocked to to to again because i i saw that in the past and i know where this is going okay and
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just again not a tool how to divide people so uh you know they are saying that
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road to hell is paved by good thinking or by goals something like good intentions so we have to be by good
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intentions yes so we have to see wise what we're doing so the fear was everywhere absolutely i remember
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in when i was attending university classes during communist regime we knew exactly which student was
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collaborating with secret police we knew their name they did not try even to hide to hide because in some
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way they had power so fear was everywhere everybody was watching what did they are saying freedom of speech
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that's all so what would you say now to the kids and i will say kids because i think you and i can
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both agree too when you see a functioning 20 something individual out there holding a sign
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in the name of social justice and all this other half-assed oppression olympics
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what would you say to these students right now if you had a chance uh especially the ones that have
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protested against free speech freedom of association and assembly um let's sum it up more or less i've
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actually engaged in conversations with some of these students in regards to their proletariat beliefs
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what would you say to these students right now if you had the chance to
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well that number one they are used useful idiots they are used for somebody else political agenda
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they are used for somebody else to to basically to grab power or to come to absolute power
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they they are becoming the tool they those people who are behind them they don't show face they let
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those children to do job for them that's what they are doing i fully understand that uh you know
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well we are saying that if you are young and you are socialist that means you have a heart
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but if you are in your 40s and you are still socialist that means you don't have a brain
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well said and this is where i'm going uh there is reason of why a lot of uh uh future dictators
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they are engaging specifically young people and i would say the most vulnerable uh age is between 16 to
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probably 23 24 depends on low maturity uh and uh you know in this age we want to you know create something
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new build something new we want to really have everybody to have equal opportunity and we are naturally
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more emotional and and standing against oppression and what else we don't have the life experience
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regarding economy we don't uh we didn't have a chance yet to establish our families to pay our bills to
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to interact inside society and that's what the future dictators they they they need they need people
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which still they don't have life experience because more we will enter this stage and we are let's say
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in 30 to 40 all of a sudden we realize that there is no free lunch and if we will uh subsidize this this and this
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then that uh our taxes will go up and i don't have so basically enough money to feed my children okay
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so all of a sudden we wanted to see system to work efficiently and efficiency will be more important
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for us and then slowly we are realizing that that's the way actually how to achieve justice
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through efficiency not through emotions exactly so uh if you know what i mean so uh
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uh in this age category between 16 to 24 we have this tendency to be more emotional it's uh it's a part of
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growing up and we still don't have this live experience and when you start to look what happened in history
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for example um one of the most known dictators let's uh let's call hitler okay he used children big time
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oh of course communists those little brown shirts yes exactly the they use also children uh the moment when
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communists they they came to power they started to control education system they say from uh
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body military training uh give me child for eight years and he or she will be communist forever
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they know why you know so it's easier much easier to program uh young people
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people than somebody age 50 60 already have some life experience you can't do them so easily around
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but young children which they have nothing to compare to so my first message to them is that
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they are literally used for somebody else political purpose there is also one more and and uh i don't want
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it to sound a little bit arrogant and it's uh it was said by lenin he called people who who
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he used for for his revolution he called them useful idiots yeah i've heard that term before yeah
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and that is because it it was very easy to play with their emotions
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mm-hmm and they always they had good heart but they've been very altruistic yeah yeah exactly they're
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very impressionable and like i said uh when i was 16 i thought yeah yeah rah rah you know read all the way
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because you know i was 16 and i was an idiot you know you you don't know what you want in your life
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when you're 16 until you get out and get some actual life experience and because of my experiences
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overseas in my 20 years in the service i understand walking the line doing what you're told doing the
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best you can with what you got and following orders and everything and now that i'm out of the service
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i'm not in that frame of thinking anymore but i served my country in defense of my country
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and like you come 2015 i would see a difference too in these dictatorial reforms or these so-called
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political reforms as our beautiful prime minister would state you know sunny ways there's a hint of
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propaganda right there uh in 2012 when he was uh quoted saying he admires china china's basic
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dictatorship and how they can turn their economy around on a dime it's like well what kind of economy
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can you turn around under any kind of communist regime you're going to lie to people you're going
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to manufacture goods for the sake of just putting people in places to make it look good but every
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communist country that i've read about has gone broke one way or the other and it usually results in um
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people not getting fed and just key figures of said party and getting away with the loot it's it's going
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on in venezuela right now as we speak people are going through dumpsters in that country and for
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what right and then you get these hollywood moguls weighing in saying oh socialism's great okay well if
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you believe in socialism purely in its form you would be given half your salary to the state or two
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thirds of your salary to the state and every piece of your property uh your mansions and your gated
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communities and your yachts and everything would be given back to the state because i know cuba did the
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exact same thing in the late 50s when they had their big cultural revolution and a lot of people died
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and people fled for their lives so um i just you know i'm in total agreeance with you suzanne in
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in regardless of this whole thing and considering that you've lived through it and you you're telling us
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well done now when you came to canada in uh 97 what were some of the revelations you had from living in
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former eastern bloc and then all of a sudden boom you're in canada what were some of the feelings
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and thoughts you had if you can remember well at the time when i came canada was definitely different
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than what is now unfortunately uh unfortunately what is now um to me uh this absolute support for
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for individual choices um and uh even uh you know to to try anything new i felt like i got wings
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literally right on i i i started my own uh business here uh i'm a engineer so i stayed in this field
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the more i'm consultant for engineering companies so uh in oil and gas industry but but to generate this
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absolutely positive attitude which people they had at the time here uh supportive attitude for anybody who
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was trying to do that it was so much good energy i felt first time in my life truly free and supported
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and i really want my children and my grandchildren to feel the same and it's disappearing and big time
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absolutely big time i sorry to see i wanted to come a little bit back uh to you know maybe
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second advice to these children who are protesting they can go for a few months or maybe even a few years
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if they want for example to visit countries such venezuela you know and that can definitely be for them big
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lesson before they will do anything else because once uh these people who wanted to uh establish
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authoritarian system here in canada once they will win then all children and younger people they are
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becoming property of the state just like we did uh my message also to parents you will not have a chance to
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say anything what your child will be taught in school or not the regime will dictate uh message to teachers
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you will have mandatory political seminars where you will be uh taught what you have to teach and what you
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you cannot teach that's what is coming and that's what i see now i see it now too i agree with you yeah especially
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when it comes to indoctrinating younger kids in um in sexuality and identity um it was unheard of when
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i was a kid to be taught that and we had the standard okay sex ed training from the time we're 12 13 14
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and it became more of a health issue if anything protect yourself from stis right and in a way there
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was no identity classes i can see it now because okay homosexuality is accepted i've always accepted
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it i could care less who's gay or who's not but what's scary is that you're seeing a lot of this
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quote-unquote training happening to kids that are four or five six years old it's scary
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exactly they even don't allow children to have their childhood yeah and and i know how my parents i i
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they felt during communism they couldn't say anything what the communist party was doing with us
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when we had this mandatory classes and mandatory uh seminars and mandatory questionaries and mandatory
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answers everything was mandatory there was absolutely no different answer different answer meant meant
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something okay how did you raise your child no my first day would be in trouble so many parents they
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choose even choose even to do not discuss politics and uh at home on the top of that what communist party
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was doing in communist czechoslovakia was trying to encourage children to report but their parents if
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they can overhear anything at home okay communism geez but that's it coming here
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again yes months ago i read already if you see anybody from your family who is not having masks and
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or what else or it's probably against all this uh what do we have now outside this call with 19
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questioning given that yeah right so let's report and i've done a few episodes on on people being ticketed and
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uh being questioned by uh bylaw officers and police officers for not you know social distancing or wearing
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a mask and it's it's uncanny like like i said it's uncanny how people are somewhat being herded like cattle
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into these categories and i'm in total i'm in total agreeance with you uh when it comes to well you
00:39:15.600
for the term uh don't be a karen right like i i i've said the thing to carls and karen sitting there
00:39:21.520
pointing fingers and reporting it it's like a bad episode of watching invasion of the body snatchers
00:39:26.880
where someone's pointing and screaming all high pitched and what you're doing and what you're not
00:39:31.120
doing in in the in the name of so-called uh social justice and safety um i've engaged people on my
00:39:38.160
facebook page who are constantly you know cyber scolding me for not listening to this or not doing that
00:39:44.960
and it's one thing understanding personal safety but you and i have both seen the numbers when it
00:39:49.520
comes to the casualty rates of this pandemic and it's affecting people that are already locked away
00:39:54.640
in homes already and it's not affecting the general public just like what sars did in the early 2000s
00:40:01.200
and or what the common flu can do to people and yet they're constantly throwing us the statistics in
00:40:07.600
regard to how many people have have this now and yet you're not seeing and hearing enough from people
00:40:12.480
who have actually recovered from it and some of the advice they should be giving to my personal
00:40:18.000
physician said just keep up the vitamin d and the zinc intake drink lots of fluids and get out there and
00:40:24.480
eat healthy and just do your thing and if you do get sick give me a call and it's been six months now
00:40:31.600
i as far as i know the curve was flattened or it hasn't been flattened or it is flattened we're just not
00:40:36.160
being told it you know knock on wood it's a real poop show you know without cussing it's well okay
00:40:44.400
screw it i'm gonna cuz my show it's a real show so
00:40:48.640
well indirectly we again we have the uh we have teaching nation to to snitch on each other yeah
00:41:01.760
and that's scary what was unheard 10 years ago or maybe 15 years ago i didn't see that when i came
00:41:09.680
here quite hopefully you know and now it's becoming more and more norm more and more more of accepted
00:41:18.560
yeah more acceptable because people are doing it outside of the name of fear yes exactly so
00:41:27.440
we don't know what is coming next but once people they started to use that again it will become more
00:41:34.400
more and more normal and that's that's another word when i hear about new normans do you know how
00:41:42.400
communists they they called uh the period from 1969 until 1980s you know we had this democratic revolution
00:41:53.200
in 1968 until uh sorry soviet army uh together with with uh army from different uh uh communist
00:42:04.080
countries uh went to uh czechoslovakia and basically stopped any democratic process
00:42:12.240
they invaded us so they they crashed everything so uh once communist party again maintained control
00:42:22.640
uh they announced that now we have new period which we call normalization
00:42:32.640
we have new normal yeah so when i hear this word new normal i'm even asking myself can you at
00:42:41.200
least come with different terms please because it reminds you because i grew up in this new normal
00:42:48.160
i know what is new normal yeah and a lot of us aren't buying it too um that's the thing what exactly is
00:42:56.480
this new normal we have to walk around the mask on our face like they do in beijing china because of
00:43:01.600
the pollution or because they want it that way and then when you see on on the news in regards to
00:43:07.360
deals of factories being made to produce these masks and these these breathers and everything that's
00:43:13.120
great well don't we have the industry in this country that can already do that or someone else
00:43:18.160
capitalized in that some other party capitalized on that function right it makes you think sorry what i
00:43:26.480
see as a new normal what uh our federal government wanted to achieve is full dependence on that yeah
00:43:35.440
basically to destroy uh businesses specifically small ones because uh it's harder to go to control them
00:43:43.600
uh and uh uh with with the different loans they can also take under control big businesses
00:43:52.160
and uh uh as i said to make people dependent on government and once they achieve that then they have
00:44:01.600
control on people's lives and then i'm telling okay if you don't speak now you won't speak later
00:44:10.720
there won't be any chance to speak later then you have to only practice two
00:44:18.320
trades the first one is obedience and the second one is servitude this is what we had as the option
00:44:26.880
so yeah so it's everything it's all together it's all packaged together i would say
00:44:35.760
yeah well that is scary because we see our federal government who has squandered billions
00:44:40.720
in the name of others um taking control of our oil and gas right basically put it on hold create
00:44:48.080
some kind of half-assed legislature that wants everything to be gender parity yada yada yada which
00:44:54.160
is nothing but just verbal diarrhea and now they've screwed the farmers too and now they've incorporated fear
00:45:02.160
into our daily lives so i can see the totalitarian dictatorship rearing its ugly head
00:45:08.080
right and considering that you have lived through that before i'm sure it is just a vivid reminder of
00:45:15.440
what was and what possibly may be so my listeners like to know too uh suzanna how do you feel let's say
00:45:23.920
about the upcoming throne speech coming up on the 23rd and what do you think mr potato or correction our
00:45:31.120
prime minister and i use that term loosely uh is actually going to try to say and try to promote
00:45:43.520
well i think he will try to use it in climate change and uh green propaganda big time because it's
00:45:51.920
already working is uh canada um that's how he won the last election and as i said before yes uh liberal
00:46:05.520
party has minority but socialists they have majority in federal government um and all them they use uh
00:46:14.000
uh uh climate change and green propaganda i also think that uh they will use kobe 19 again to impose
00:46:25.280
fear and excuses and justification for more spending
00:46:33.760
uh unfortunately people they lost fear from debt
00:46:37.600
they don't understand that all this money they have to be paid yeah they have to be paid by somebody
00:46:48.400
they won't disappear they are attached to certain interest we have to pay this interest they call that
00:46:56.800
serving debt people they don't ask question how much monthly we will pay
00:47:03.760
and how many schools and hospitals and services they could be built and done with with this money
00:47:16.880
there is no accountability uh i have a feeling that uh lots of canadians now they leave for just moment
00:47:26.560
now and who cares what they will belated it's not accountability to future generations
00:47:34.000
and uh not taking their responsibility so what i'm expecting from the september 23rd to just do everything to
00:47:47.840
number one to keep people in fear and number two to still sway their way of green propaganda economy
00:48:00.320
now i know that this is uh connected with united nations goal so uh
00:48:11.280
i think uh that that's what will be and i think that this also will be supported by by
00:48:18.560
uh few political parties which they are in federal government sorry federal house of common
00:48:25.600
um so he'll need um so he makes this legislation if he does pass any kind of green green green propaganda
00:48:34.800
he'll have to have backing because of his minority status yeah and he does he does he has ndp he has green party
00:48:44.160
and i believe that even block webcast would support us so um i don't think that uh conservative party of
00:48:58.560
exactly so uh and i'm expecting that uh mr trugel will stay in parlor that uh and he will continue with
00:49:09.920
mm-hmm that's scary isn't it it's a scary reality
00:49:17.440
well uh we had small discussion before and uh you know my uh stand or that
00:49:25.280
there is only one way how to change situation and not in way which many canadians they would agree with
00:49:32.800
but uh i believe that uh we have to stop to finance socialism yes no i'm in green with you too we have to
00:49:42.800
we have to unite in regards that regards to where we sit on the political fence there's nothing wrong with having
00:49:48.320
benefits to help our citizens out because we know our tax dollars are supposed to go to fund that i.e. our health care
00:49:56.960
um i remember as a teenager when we'd all sit and contemplate where we're going to go to college
00:50:02.560
university and at the time i didn't i didn't want to go because i didn't want to have some
00:50:08.160
quote-unquote quack tell me how to live my life but now every day you're seeing it more and more
00:50:15.200
you're getting these so-called professors and educators telling people how to live their lives
00:50:19.120
now you're getting elected officials telling us how to live our lives
00:50:22.320
and we are forgetting the basic principle of liberty in this country
00:50:26.880
when can we it's okay to go out again and actually farm when is it okay to go out again
00:50:31.520
and actually pursue what you want to pursue it doesn't matter if it's a trade or if it's academia
00:50:36.720
you know it's it's like we always have to walk these certain lines all the time to appease a handful
00:50:42.800
of little little dictators in training right and what's what gets me with some of these people that are
00:50:48.560
advocating a lot of these programs they come from well-to-do families too like all the freelands out
00:50:54.880
there like all the mornos out there like all the mckenna's and of course all the trudeau's out there
00:50:59.600
that were born in in quite a bit of wealth and yet blue collar folk like myself and yourself especially
00:51:08.240
you know when do we get to build things up and thrive too
00:51:11.360
you know it's scary it's scary susanna and it is yeah i absolutely really it it is very very scary
00:51:21.200
because uh there's a change it's becoming uh or it's coming slowly you know and uh people they are
00:51:29.120
accepting more and more control over the day you know and uh on the top of that they think that this
00:51:37.200
is in their best interest so it's a psychological war very nasty psychological war it is it is and
00:51:46.720
it's tough to see some people won't get through it as let's say what you and i would per se but i i would
00:51:55.360
definitely say it's probably up to people like yourself and others your supporters myself and my
00:52:01.280
supporters too to overcome it and do what we can to do our best is there anything else you'd like to
00:52:08.400
add before uh we end this interview there uh susanna well i would uh just again just uh tell something
00:52:19.520
like a reminder to those who are still quiet to speak up when it's time i don't know how much time left
00:52:28.000
but every day it's less and less and i think i read somewhere that i think this was einstein who said
00:52:40.320
that the evil is not done by those who are doing evil but by those who are letting uh dictators to do
00:52:51.280
this evil and they don't speak so he had this experience firsthand when he had to run from fascist germany
00:53:02.800
because citizens of germany did not stand up against nazi party and uh if we will not stand up for our
00:53:13.840
freedom if we will not speak up now not even tomorrow now there will be days when we can't speak
00:53:26.560
well said well said susanna well susanna thank you very much for the time you have shared with all of
00:53:33.040
us here on the crusty connect podcast i hope nothing but the best of prosperity for you and yours
00:53:40.080
and once again i appreciate you for sharing your time and your insight with us especially
00:53:46.400
to uh to cater to the trendy buzzword uh sharing your lived experience with us thank you very much
00:53:54.880
you're very welcome and thank you for inviting me not a problem you always have a home here in the
00:54:00.000
crusty connect podcast so anytime you want to say hello by all means you're more than welcome to
00:54:04.400
thank you all right thank you for showing up and uh good luck to all you and your endeavors
00:54:26.320
janisova denbor i'll leave a link to her article there on uh my description page what an interesting
00:54:34.560
conversation what a well-rounded individual intelligent articulate human being and not to
00:54:40.560
mention she is a patriot of this country too and you can also find her on facebook i'll leave a link
00:54:46.400
if you want to reach out and contact her uh but ladies and gentlemen like we have said um
00:54:51.760
like i have said numerous times too um i personally want prosperity i want people to thrive i want
00:54:58.080
people to get out in the world and do the best they can with what they got and there's nothing wrong
00:55:03.520
with loving your country right so regardless of all the green propaganda going on i too want clean
00:55:09.120
water i want fresh air but we're not going to achieve that and and maintain that because the government
00:55:16.080
says so the government says so okay i do like government to a point when it's governing not
00:55:22.560
conditioning or controlling and you've heard it uh from herself there uh susanna in regards to where
00:55:27.920
she grew up and how she was brought up in instead system and she sees the similarities anyhow you guys
00:55:34.160
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00:55:38.560
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00:56:22.720
susanna for her beautiful interview and i highly suggest ladies and gentlemen read her resume it's
00:56:30.560
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00:56:36.240
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00:56:49.920
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