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00:00:57.740 Tonight, Donald Trump throwing Canada into chaos.

00:01:00.660 President-elect Trump still threatened 25% tariffs on Canadian imports.

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00:01:27.700 Not a day goes by that I don't see some story about a woman who has a career, maybe a doctor, a nurse, a police officer, whether or not you think they should be.

00:01:37.180 But they quit because they found out that doing OnlyFans makes them more money, or at least they hope it does.

00:01:42.640 But they promote these stories like crazy.

00:01:45.100 And I wonder if it's because they actually do make money, or people are going to want to click on it to hear a story about a woman who used to be a lawyer, but now she just wants to get naked on camera and put things in her body.

00:01:59.660 Whether or not that's true, there certainly is a debate around whether or not porn should be legal, whether or not X should allow it.

00:02:07.440 Actually, Ye got flagged as not safe for work because he was posting adult content.

00:02:11.220 And, you know, how we're going to deal with this, there's a lot of people who want to ban it outright, which is interesting to see that's become fairly prominent in the Trump era with MAGA and all this stuff people are saying, just make it illegal.

00:02:21.940 So now you've got a wave of these laws where they're forcing these websites to verify the age of individuals, and they're fighting it.

00:02:30.520 They're complaining about it.

00:02:31.940 Now, that's just weird to me, because imagine it's an adult bookstore, and they're like, hey, we shouldn't have to ask those three kids in a trench coat if they have ID or not.

00:02:37.800 They can just walk in.

00:02:39.240 Look, if your website's doing adult content, I mean, we should have a conversation about how we protect children.

00:02:43.300 But that's the debate today.

00:02:45.020 Is this bad for relationships?

00:02:46.580 Is it bad for society?

00:02:48.280 What's going on with OnlyFans?

00:02:49.540 We've got a couple of people joining us to have this debate.

00:02:52.460 Let's start with this fellow over here, Myron.

00:02:54.180 What's up?

00:02:54.680 Hey, what's up, man?

00:02:56.160 Who are you?

00:02:56.720 What do you do?

00:02:57.480 Myron Gaines went half of the Fresh Fit podcast.

00:02:59.560 I also run my own show called The Debrief, Monday through Friday, 5 p.m.

00:03:03.180 I'm Myron Gaines X on YouTube and Rumble.

00:03:05.240 You're the anti-porn guy.

00:03:06.920 Yes, yes.

00:03:07.820 I don't like, I think porn is not good.

00:03:10.780 All right, well, Candice is here.

00:03:11.940 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:03:12.740 Candice Horvac, host of the Chatting with Candice podcast, was in the adult industry from 2000.

00:03:19.540 2011 to 2017.

00:03:23.560 So would you consider yourself to be on the pro-porn side?

00:03:26.140 That's like, I don't like saying pro-porn because I feel like that's making the assumption

00:03:29.980 that there's no issues with it whatsoever and that it doesn't need some regulation and

00:03:33.800 oversight.

00:03:35.100 But I don't think it should be illegal by any measure.

00:03:38.220 And then just to make it as crazy as possible, Ian is here.

00:03:40.460 Man, I don't think porn's a monolith.

00:03:43.220 It's like saying porn is good or porn is bad.

00:03:45.340 It's like saying TV is good or TV is bad.

00:03:47.640 There's some porns where it's just brutal, violent, horrible things you would never want

00:03:51.640 to show someone.

00:03:52.520 And then there's some where it's just erotic love, where two people meet, crazy orgasm,

00:03:56.920 and then they're smiling and laughing at the end.

00:03:58.840 So I think it's important, especially for young people, to understand the difference in that

00:04:03.260 stuff if that's how they're getting their visualizations of what sex is like.

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00:05:15.440 I'm going to get you a cup of coffee right now, Myron.

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00:05:20.180 No, no.

00:05:20.620 I'll be back.

00:05:22.000 So let's get started.

00:05:24.920 Candice, you're saying you don't want to say pro-porn because you think there's problems

00:05:27.900 with it.

00:05:28.360 Yes.

00:05:28.720 But your position would be that people should be allowed to make and distribute it.

00:05:33.500 I mean, that seems fairly simple, but where are we at?

00:05:36.360 What do you mean, where are we at?

00:05:37.400 Well, what's the issue, right?

00:05:39.240 Do we want to say ban porn?

00:05:40.940 Is that what you're saying?

00:05:41.740 Well, I'll let her give your position, and then you can, yeah.

00:05:45.500 So I think the thing that's trending right now on X is ban porn, and everyone's trying

00:05:50.520 to make this really big political statement about it, and just to make it illegal outright.

00:05:54.260 And I don't know if that's really well thought out in the sense that if you start with one

00:05:58.620 thing and you use obscenity as the reason to get rid of it, then that's going to trickle

00:06:03.160 down into other things.

00:06:04.180 If you're using the Miller test to establish whether or not it should be protected under

00:06:08.340 freedom of speech, there are a lot of other things that could possibly fail that you absolutely

00:06:12.280 shouldn't.

00:06:12.880 What's the Miller test?

00:06:14.160 So it's basically to establish-

00:06:15.480 Three-pronged, right?

00:06:16.320 Yeah.

00:06:16.700 So it has to be presented in front of a reasonable average person, and if they see that it's

00:06:22.980 like, if they would consider it obscene or not, then by community standards, essentially.

00:06:28.680 And then they also look at if it provides any other value, scientific, political, artistic,

00:06:35.600 or, and there's like one other category.

00:06:37.260 Um, so basically it has to apply to the community as, as, at a reasonable standard twofold, and

00:06:43.480 then also present like some kind of value.

00:06:45.860 Oh, so everybody would want to ban then?

00:06:47.660 Well, no.

00:06:48.140 So it actually passes.

00:06:49.180 So that's, that's the thing that people don't understand.

00:06:51.640 Like, and then-

00:06:52.660 The threshold for obscene is really high.

00:06:54.440 That's why.

00:06:55.080 That's why it doesn't get banned.

00:06:56.480 Well, let's, let's, let's, let's mention this too.

00:06:58.200 Like Ian made the point that it's not a monolith.

00:07:00.420 Right.

00:07:00.880 So there's, depends on the porn you're showing the person.

00:07:03.400 Exactly.

00:07:03.820 So that's the thing.

00:07:04.500 So traditional vanilla hetero porn by default is probably going to pass the test.

00:07:10.660 So when you say banned porn, are you saying like the really extreme stuff at kink?

00:07:14.200 Cause I would probably be on board with like, a lot of that should probably not be legal.

00:07:18.900 Um, because I, once you introduce money, I don't know that you can really consent to certain

00:07:22.520 levels of abuse.

00:07:23.380 You know what I mean?

00:07:23.880 So when we say porn, I think we need to kind of narrow down, like, what do we mean by porn?

00:07:27.840 Cause is that also erotica?

00:07:29.360 Is that nudes?

00:07:30.620 Is that solos?

00:07:31.840 Like the, the span is so vast that I think you have to say like, what is porn?

00:07:36.040 Is it a magazine?

00:07:36.760 Is that still porn?

00:07:38.060 Wait, wait, hold on.

00:07:38.700 So you're saying that if like, you know, two people are going at it, just regular old vanilla,

00:07:42.960 people don't consider that obscene?

00:07:44.140 No, because it's a natural behavior.

00:07:45.580 So the obscenity part would be like, oh, that it's getting filmed or that someone's getting

00:07:49.320 money for it.

00:07:49.840 It's, it's the act.

00:07:50.640 So that's the reason that like children are protected, right?

00:07:53.440 Like that is obscene.

00:07:54.620 It is though.

00:07:55.420 You can look at the rulings.

00:07:56.700 You put two people out in the middle of the street and have them go at it and that's going

00:07:59.120 to be obscene.

00:07:59.660 No, no.

00:07:59.960 But it's not saying that public sex is okay.

00:08:01.760 Cause that's not okay.

00:08:02.440 That's illegal.

00:08:02.960 It's saying is sex being recorded between a man and a woman?

00:08:06.140 It's public sex.

00:08:07.160 It's not public because it's, it's on the internet.

00:08:09.640 It's not happening.

00:08:10.160 That's public.

00:08:10.960 It's not public.

00:08:11.840 You have to log onto your phone.

00:08:13.120 How would you say that's public?

00:08:14.120 You're paying to.

00:08:14.720 Children can get access to it.

00:08:16.240 They sure can.

00:08:17.100 Yeah.

00:08:17.340 And bookstores are public.

00:08:18.300 But do you like who should be in charge of access when you get to that point?

00:08:21.880 Like, is it the parents' responsibility?

00:08:23.280 What I see is a lot of, you don't think so at all?

00:08:25.580 I think like adult bookstores, we have laws where it's like, you got to show ID if you

00:08:28.880 want to get in.

00:08:29.460 The idea that we're going to be like, nah, kids on the internet, you can look at whatever

00:08:32.220 you want.

00:08:33.080 Why?

00:08:33.600 Since when?

00:08:34.040 Those adult bookstores though, you wouldn't have to show ID if you were like a 50 year old

00:08:38.060 man with a beard.

00:08:39.020 Sure.

00:08:39.380 But on the internet, they, it's blanket.

00:08:41.840 They can't.

00:08:42.760 No, I don't think so.

00:08:43.740 It's a waste of people's time.

00:08:44.860 Like, and I don't want to give the government my data when I don't, then, then don't get

00:08:49.840 access to it.

00:08:50.200 You want to buy booze, they, they card you either way.

00:08:51.860 The law is that if you, if you don't card 57 year old men, if you're going to be finished,

00:08:56.340 the laws in most places that if you appear under 60, yeah, exactly.

00:09:00.240 Yeah.

00:09:00.540 There's a lot of places where like the casino over here, it says, if you appear 30, if

00:09:04.020 you're 30 a lot.

00:09:04.940 Yeah.

00:09:05.100 It says, if you appear to be under 30, you will be carded.

00:09:07.840 And, and there's, there's some, uh, liquor stores that, the age is different, different

00:09:11.540 States, but they're, they, they, they set the super high threshold.

00:09:14.500 If you're a 40 year old man, you get carded.

00:09:16.600 We do this to protect kids.

00:09:17.660 I don't know.

00:09:17.900 Meyer, what do you think?

00:09:18.680 Yeah.

00:09:18.820 I mean, the Miller test that she's referring to, um, you know, it's a three prong test.

00:09:22.880 Basically obscenity is like the main factor that distinguishes if it's going to be allowed

00:09:27.360 or not.

00:09:27.980 And, you know, as we progress as a society, that obscenity has become a higher and higher

00:09:32.600 threshold to reach.

00:09:33.400 And most standard heterosexual porn, like she was saying, is considered, um, legal in the United

00:09:38.300 States.

00:09:38.600 Now when it comes to my stance on porn, um, should it be completely illegal?

00:09:43.900 I would like that, but ideally I know that this is a capitalistic country and the first

00:09:48.160 amendment is a thing.

00:09:48.940 And, you know, you got the freedom of expression, et cetera, to a degree.

00:09:51.560 So my thing is, I think it needs to be heavily, heavily regulated.

00:09:54.980 And I don't think it should be on X at all.

00:09:56.760 Um, I think X is more of a political discourse app.

00:09:59.340 It's an, uh, to have to create, um, have a discussion with ideas.

00:10:02.880 So I think if we are going to have, um, pornography, though, I strongly detest it.

00:10:06.940 Um, you know, I think it needs to be heavily regulated and taxed and, you know, we need

00:10:11.260 to put barriers on it where it's not easily accessible and as ubiquitous as it is now in

00:10:16.440 society.

00:10:16.840 So would you say the same when it comes to, um, like any kind of like extreme violent

00:10:24.080 content would, should that come off as well?

00:10:25.940 Because I would argue that porn can be political and it is because like everyone's talking about

00:10:30.400 it.

00:10:30.540 So in its nature, it is political.

00:10:32.420 So if porn is political, I think so.

00:10:34.660 But if not, because it's part of, I mean, we've fought to get it protected under the

00:10:38.480 first amendment and that's why it's trending right now is like whether or not that does

00:10:41.460 qualify as freedom of expression, freedom of press.

00:10:43.980 And ultimately it's kind of like, it's, it's showing how much sovereignty and agency you

00:10:48.780 have over your own body.

00:10:49.980 Yeah.

00:10:50.180 I see your perspective, your perspective, but I think, you know, putting porn on the same

00:10:53.660 level as like freedom of speech where we're actually having real discourse that is important.

00:10:58.760 Um, I think that's not on the same level.

00:11:00.800 I think, I think porn would be at a lower level there where it doesn't necessarily deserve

00:11:04.980 the same level of protection as political discourse because political discourse is important.

00:11:08.960 That's why our founding fathers founded this country.

00:11:11.160 You know, I don't think they were standing around thinking like, dude, we're really trying

00:11:14.200 to beat our meat without problems.

00:11:15.600 Like, you know, uh, the fathers had a bunch of pictures and it was like, and considering

00:11:18.780 the first amendment, you know, they weren't traversing the Atlantic ocean, you know, dying

00:11:23.220 through scurvy saying like, we need to whack off the porn.

00:11:25.480 Like I think for them, it was like, we got to get away from this monarchy and be able to

00:11:28.200 have political ideals and be able to have this marketplace of ideas.

00:11:30.800 So like, though I see your perspective on, uh, pornography being a form of, uh, expression,

00:11:36.080 I don't think it rises to the same level and needs of protection as political discourse

00:11:40.800 and speech.

00:11:41.420 Right.

00:11:41.920 Um, like for me, for example, like I'm real big on, we need to protect free speech.

00:11:45.460 I'm like, uh, as close as you could be to a free speech, maximalist or absolutist, but

00:11:49.340 you know, I'm not a free image absolutist.

00:11:51.420 Right.

00:11:51.660 If that makes sense.

00:11:52.440 So I don't think, um, at least for a majority of porn, it's not artistic or political in any

00:11:58.080 way.

00:11:58.340 It's strictly erotic, you know, for financial gain, typically for people to, you know,

00:12:02.860 get horny or whatever.

00:12:03.860 Well, for sure.

00:12:04.320 I would actually agree with that part, but where I would say that it is political, it's,

00:12:08.140 is the right to exist.

00:12:09.680 So it, it typically is the canary in the coal mine.

00:12:12.880 It's like the first thing to go because no one wants to defend it.

00:12:15.900 Even I'm here.

00:12:16.420 I'm like, I don't want to say I'm pro porn.

00:12:17.860 Right.

00:12:18.040 Like it's, it's not something that people really, uh, champion or get behind for a whole

00:12:22.620 host of reasons.

00:12:23.340 Oh, so you're saying it, it's existence is political in nature, not the actual content

00:12:28.360 being political.

00:12:29.320 Both, both can be true, but more, more it's existence.

00:12:32.220 I don't know about you, but I've never seen a girl sucking D and talking about Democrats

00:12:35.180 and Republicans, man.

00:12:36.060 There's actually some, no, they're actually, come on, come on.

00:12:39.260 Rule 34, bro.

00:12:40.960 If it exists, there's porn of it.

00:12:42.700 Oh God.

00:12:43.420 Yeah.

00:12:43.680 I promise.

00:12:44.580 Really?

00:12:45.380 Yes.

00:12:45.780 Yes.

00:12:45.860 That's where we are.

00:12:46.640 Don't you know the rules of the internet?

00:12:47.440 There's cancer ads.

00:12:48.560 I actually shot a cancer ad back in the day.

00:12:51.000 What the hell?

00:12:51.640 Yep.

00:12:52.280 Yeah.

00:12:52.480 But like, what happened to good old classic stuff?

00:12:54.420 Like the pizza guy shows up.

00:12:55.520 I know.

00:12:56.080 Like, let's be honest here though.

00:12:57.080 Like, are people really logging into porn of to like, figure out who they're going to

00:13:00.020 vote for?

00:13:00.440 Like, let's see if the Democrats have a better, have a better video.

00:13:03.640 Oh, I'm going to vote for whoever puts out the best for it.

00:13:05.760 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:13:06.340 I got to be honest.

00:13:07.260 Come on.

00:13:07.740 Everybody was sharing those pictures on X of like big busty Trump supporting women.

00:13:11.420 Yeah.

00:13:11.700 And they were all super hot.

00:13:13.200 Yeah.

00:13:13.380 And, and, and, you know, Kamala Harris, she didn't have none of that.

00:13:15.900 But, you know, look, I guess that's a strange niche that I might not be familiar with, but

00:13:21.700 I think for us to sit here and say like, we need to protect porn that, you know, is

00:13:25.280 political in nature.

00:13:26.040 Well, then all these companies are going to start wearing MAGA hats when they smash and

00:13:29.540 stuff.

00:13:29.900 Like, it's like, dude, dude, I'm saying all of them, not this niche porn here.

00:13:34.080 The rules of the internet.

00:13:35.340 Are you familiar?

00:13:36.180 This goes back to the ancient lore, the deep, the deep magic as it was written.

00:13:39.720 Rule 34 states, if it exists, there is porn of it.

00:13:43.320 Mm-hmm.

00:13:44.280 I'm sure.

00:13:45.000 Yeah.

00:13:45.480 I mean, now I'm realizing that.

00:13:47.900 But, but no, I mean, I see a perspective where you're saying like porn in itself is a political

00:13:53.720 thing because it's a hot rod, right?

00:13:55.400 Should we ban it?

00:13:56.020 Should we not?

00:13:58.140 But I think like to say, I don't think it deserves the same level of protection as like

00:14:02.440 us having political discourse where we're discussing ideas, right?

00:14:04.920 Well, there is, there is like different categories of protection, right?

00:14:07.320 And political speech and political, the ability to criticize your government is like the number

00:14:13.140 one thing.

00:14:13.520 Paramount.

00:14:13.920 That's the reason this country was founded.

00:14:15.180 Right.

00:14:15.340 And everything kind of trickles down from there.

00:14:16.940 But I'm saying it does need to be included because if you look at any, any like oppressive

00:14:21.120 government, it always starts with obscenity or anyone that's like kind of criticizing

00:14:25.480 the prominent religion.

00:14:26.760 You're worried about like the slippery slope where they take that away and you give them

00:14:30.380 an inch, they take a mile.

00:14:32.040 You know, I could see your stance for that, but I don't think porn would be that impetus

00:14:38.080 to like for that to happen, right?

00:14:39.340 I think I'd be more concerned when they start like silencing people for being critical of,

00:14:44.840 you know, other topics that might be controversial.

00:14:46.480 But you know, the famous poem, you know, first they came for the trade unionists, then

00:14:49.680 they came for the porn stars and the whores as it goes.

00:14:52.900 It always starts with the porn.

00:14:55.000 They're like, we're going to censor this because it's obscene.

00:14:56.900 And then most people are like, absolutely like book bannings.

00:14:59.800 We should do that.

00:15:00.400 And it ends up, I think it was in Russia specifically where it ended up was you couldn't have any

00:15:04.860 books that were in Hebrew.

00:15:06.320 Like that became illegal.

00:15:07.620 But so I, I, I don't, I don't accept this argument.

00:15:11.320 This slippery slope argument.

00:15:12.680 People make it all the time.

00:15:13.340 Not Hebrew.

00:15:13.580 I'm a fan of that.

00:15:14.460 So the, the arguments we get right now all the time from particularly the anti-establishment,

00:15:21.740 I don't want to say necessarily say the right, though the right is basically the anti-establishment.

00:15:25.420 But it wasn't always this way.

00:15:27.100 The argument's always, we can't, we can't use this power because then they will use this

00:15:32.360 power.

00:15:32.780 And it's like, bro, let me just tell you right now, evil people are doing horrifying evil

00:15:36.220 things.

00:15:36.700 We want to stop.

00:15:37.340 The idea that we would let them continue doing horrifying evil things because maybe more

00:15:41.480 evil will happen later is an afterthought.

00:15:43.100 How about this?

00:15:44.200 We know what we think is good and what we think is bad.

00:15:46.900 So we say this thing is bad and should have restrictions on it.

00:15:50.680 And if later they come back and say, oh yeah, well now we're going to do even worse thing.

00:15:54.400 We say no.

00:15:56.020 Right.

00:15:56.280 So what we, so the way I describe it is the slippery slope moves in every single direction.

00:16:00.700 The argument that we can't regulate or restrict porn because heavens, they might come back

00:16:06.580 and censor something else.

00:16:07.580 It's like, okay, well now they're giving kids porn, right?

00:16:10.500 Which slippery slope do you want to take?

00:16:12.380 And I got to ask, how about we just try and fight to defend the area where we are?

00:16:16.980 That means if a kid wants to go to an adult bookstore, you're not going to let them in.

00:16:19.880 Check for an ID.

00:16:20.780 You want to have a website where it's going to have this stuff.

00:16:22.540 Okay, fine.

00:16:23.100 Got to have an ID.

00:16:23.720 Got to prove your age.

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00:18:01.320 Content or extreme violence, it is blocked off unless you can verify your age and you

00:18:05.260 get a verification check with your ID and all that stuff.

00:18:06.880 How about we do that?

00:18:07.860 Yeah, no, I'm in agreeance with that.

00:18:10.160 Again, I'm very anti-porn.

00:18:13.160 I think it's toxic.

00:18:14.420 I think it's extremely problematic, especially nowadays where it's extremely influential.

00:18:18.100 You got women running around saying, I'm going to bang 100 dudes in a day, 1,000 dudes

00:18:21.360 in a day.

00:18:22.320 That sets a very bad precedent because what ends up happening, right?

00:18:25.860 Is women by nature are just very easily influenced.

00:18:29.020 This is why advertisers target women significantly compared to men.

00:18:32.160 So if we got women doing stuff like this, deplorable things like this, they think, well,

00:18:36.180 I can make a bunch of money going on OnlyFans, not knowing that the average female makes like

00:18:39.700 100 bucks a month on OnlyFans.

00:18:41.680 And then what do they do?

00:18:42.380 They end up destroying their life in the process.

00:18:43.880 So my issue also is that the ubiquity of porn has also created cultural ramifications where,

00:18:51.560 you know, again, I love America.

00:18:54.120 This is a capitalist country.

00:18:55.240 And I understand people being capitalists, which is why I'm saying like, okay, maybe

00:18:58.880 making it illegal might be, you know, antithetical to our capitalism mantra.

00:19:02.960 But I do think that we need to be as close as possible to making it illegal and just putting

00:19:07.520 severe restrictions on it so that we don't influence the public, especially young, impressionable

00:19:11.760 women into getting into this career field.

00:19:13.660 We ban drugs.

00:19:15.860 We're capitalists, but we say, hey, like, you know, you can't sell heroin.

00:19:19.500 Yeah.

00:19:19.960 No, I mean, like I said, you know, and I work in narcotics too.

00:19:22.860 I mean, but that's a whole other conversation.

00:19:24.280 But does that work?

00:19:25.220 No one's doing heroin anymore?

00:19:26.660 Well, there's interesting arguments that seeps over into the abortion debate.

00:19:32.260 So, you know, obviously you got one side, the Democrats, they're being like, you know,

00:19:36.780 Whoopi Goldberg holds up a hanger and she's like, we are so close to this.

00:19:40.620 Seamus Coughlin, good friend, he made the argument.

00:19:42.580 So what?

00:19:43.480 He said, so what?

00:19:44.760 The restriction of it takes most of it away and some people will still break the law.

00:19:48.560 Now, there's ways to restrict and regulate things to prevent black markets and violent

00:19:53.460 crime, but making something free, available and ubiquitous increases its use.

00:19:57.360 That's the problem.

00:19:58.180 Yeah.

00:19:58.420 And that's the main problem is that it's easily accessible until the state's real, you

00:20:01.580 know, did this whole thing.

00:20:02.320 Well, people can just use VPNs, but yeah, the ubiquity of porn was the biggest problem

00:20:06.760 and how influential it is, especially when this like internet culture, you know, little

00:20:10.760 girls used to grow up and little girls used to say, I want to grow up and be an astronaut.

00:20:14.140 Now they want to get their aspect.

00:20:15.720 Like it's completely changed, man, where it's like, like we've deviated so much into

00:20:21.880 degeneracy that it's wild and pornography has been like the Trojan horse that's like

00:20:25.180 kind of led that charge.

00:20:26.140 Let me ask you, do you think, uh, I mentioned in the opening of the show that there is this

00:20:30.680 trend, whether it's organic or just highlighted where women are quitting their careers to do

00:20:35.320 porn instead.

00:20:36.300 Do you, would you consider that to be a good thing or not or neutral or bad?

00:20:39.740 I don't know how true a lot of those stories are, to be honest, especially when they start

00:20:43.500 showing the, like the numbers that these women are making, it doesn't add up.

00:20:46.640 So, um, I agree that there's a huge issue with women that are saying like, I'm making all

00:20:50.560 of this money because it's delusional.

00:20:51.860 There's 500 people in the entire world that are making six figures a month on OnlyFans.

00:20:56.100 And I happen to know like most of them.

00:20:57.860 So the chances of like you signing up, 500, 500, and there's about like 5 million creators

00:21:04.000 on that platform.

00:21:04.740 So like those aren't really great numbers.

00:21:06.720 That's not the story.

00:21:07.360 The story, the story particular, there was one story a few months ago when I was a nurse,

00:21:11.240 but she does like three or 4,000 a month on OnlyFans.

00:21:14.140 So she quit her job because she was saying it's not, she, it's, this is not a woman who

00:21:18.640 has a staff, like some of these bigger creators.

00:21:20.980 And she's like, I think she was like late thirties.

00:21:23.340 She just said, I was making, you know, $50,000 a year as a nurse.

00:21:26.840 I make that much doing OnlyFans and I set my own schedule and work when I feel like it.

00:21:30.300 So my issue with that is if you're not doing it for like a different reason, other than

00:21:35.100 money or fame, it's going to come back and bite you in the butt, especially if you already

00:21:38.900 have a career that has longevity, there's very little longevity in that career.

00:21:42.480 So to leave something for something so fickle doesn't seem very wise to me.

00:21:46.020 And I mean, that decision does have a lot of gravity to it.

00:21:48.980 It closes a lot of doors and there are so many like second and third order of consequences

00:21:52.740 that come from that decision.

00:21:54.080 There's no way you have the foresight to know.

00:21:56.220 So I think for women that are just doing it for that, it doesn't.

00:21:59.460 Well, it's because we don't, we don't shame women anymore.

00:22:01.560 You know what I mean?

00:22:02.180 I assure you, go on my feed.

00:22:03.540 I get shamed hourly.

00:22:05.180 Yeah.

00:22:05.420 Yeah.

00:22:05.940 Here's the thing.

00:22:06.500 Like, yeah, you get shamed because of your past and, you know, obviously it's the internet,

00:22:10.560 but I would argue that we've removed a lot of the social training wheels that kept women

00:22:16.200 in line.

00:22:16.800 Right.

00:22:16.960 And we can talk about feminism and how that's influenced it.

00:22:19.600 But, you know, the problem is that we really don't shame women for being hoes.

00:22:23.260 That's just really what it comes down to.

00:22:24.580 Yeah.

00:22:24.740 You might get some comments here and there on Instagram, but if you look at the greater

00:22:28.420 picture, we absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.

00:22:32.140 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.

00:22:34.160 We tell them to put off family into marriage.

00:22:35.740 We tell them to, you know, extract value from men while simultaneously not giving any value

00:22:39.900 back.

00:22:40.640 We have a very gynocentric society that really allows women to behave poorly with zero consequence.

00:22:46.560 And then, but the problem is that we don't tell them the truth that behaving poorly like

00:22:49.500 this is going to hurt you in the long run.

00:22:52.260 And that's the issue because they get to 30, 35, can't find a guy.

00:22:55.560 And then they're like, what happened?

00:22:56.520 Like everyone told me I can find a man at the end of the road.

00:22:58.860 And they were lied to.

00:22:59.880 And that's why I think like one of feminism's biggest failures is it lies to women.

00:23:05.200 There's this conversation about, is it good for women or any human to exploit their looks

00:23:10.760 for money?

00:23:11.920 And that usually ends up being a pretty empty life.

00:23:14.800 Looks is different than...

00:23:16.040 Acting's the various...

00:23:16.860 I felt like a prostitute in the entertainment industry.

00:23:18.680 Like they're like, just shut up.

00:23:20.240 Look pretty.

00:23:21.460 Here's your paycheck.

00:23:22.440 Don't talk about what you really believe.

00:23:24.080 I'm like, I say this is good for you and it's not.

00:23:26.980 I'm like, okay, this is gross.

00:23:28.580 Okay.

00:23:28.800 That argument there, is it good for young women?

00:23:31.240 Probably not in the long run.

00:23:32.680 But then now what's going to happen is AI is coming in.

00:23:35.140 Deep fake porn is where it's at.

00:23:37.120 Women aren't even going to have to become porn stars to have that stuff everywhere.

00:23:40.620 When you go online, like I've seen the hottest VR women, like fake digital

00:23:48.020 avatars, deep fake humans.

00:23:50.480 I bet you can't even find Marge Simpson.

00:23:51.880 She was so hot.

00:23:53.100 I'm like, it's not a real girl, dude.

00:23:55.520 Marge?

00:23:56.480 Let me tell you this.

00:23:58.200 Go ahead.

00:23:58.460 He's like 80.

00:23:59.480 Then it's like another discussion of should these images be allowed to be on social media

00:24:03.440 and prevalent as another conversation than is it healthy for humans to do?

00:24:07.580 This is a really good point because to your point about gynocentrism and what society is

00:24:13.340 telling women to do, already we are seeing women be removed from the porn industry completely

00:24:19.980 because of AI.

00:24:21.820 It is now becoming guys.

00:24:23.560 I mean, come on.

00:24:24.220 Everybody knows the story from Andrew Tate.

00:24:26.800 I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he was saying that he would go on the messages

00:24:30.560 and talk dirty to guys to make money.

00:24:32.440 Yo, with the internet and now with AI, there's some dude who's going on OnlyFans and he's

00:24:37.740 like, you're so pretty.

00:24:39.160 And it's some guy sitting there and be like, yeah, tell me more, babe.

00:24:42.140 So let me kind of, because this is like my wheelhouse.

00:24:45.220 This dude's getting other dudes off.

00:24:45.940 That's pretty gay.

00:24:46.840 So this is what I've realized from analyzing the sexual marketplace, modern women, modern

00:24:52.020 men, et cetera.

00:24:52.940 The bottom line is this.

00:24:54.580 Feminism has created a very unstable environment for men and women to create families and children,

00:25:01.100 et cetera.

00:25:01.360 The nuclear family has been destroyed through feminism.

00:25:04.660 But what's ended up happening through feminism is women are earning more money than ever

00:25:07.720 before.

00:25:08.360 They're more successful, more educated than ever before.

00:25:10.680 So women no longer need the provisioning and security that a man used to provide in

00:25:15.320 the 1950s.

00:25:16.180 They can go ahead and make their own money and their own success.

00:25:19.120 So since this institution exists, women's standards have went up.

00:25:23.040 Well, here's the problem.

00:25:24.220 Their standards have went up while they're simultaneously still promiscuous and not necessarily worthy of

00:25:29.460 a marriage or a long-term relationship.

00:25:30.760 So what's happened is we have a lot of guys that are quite involuntary celibate, having

00:25:35.980 a tough time meeting women, getting girlfriends, et cetera.

00:25:38.860 So what do men do if they have a reproductive problem?

00:25:41.680 They solve for it, whether it's pornography, it's, you know, fleshlights or, you know, you're

00:25:46.420 talking about this AI, et cetera.

00:25:47.460 But what I predict is if this continues on, where young men are being ostracized from

00:25:51.860 dating and modern women in general, because modern women just don't see a majority of

00:25:55.380 modern men as viable candidates, it's going to be what's going on right now.

00:25:59.680 Top five to 10% of guys get all the girls and the guys, the nerds and revenge of the

00:26:03.840 nerds, they're going to go ahead and start getting sex robots.

00:26:06.060 And we're already seeing this happening right now.

00:26:07.400 Lamar Odom went viral for getting a sex robot that, uh, represent, I think, um, what was

00:26:12.140 his ex-wife's name?

00:26:12.920 So one of the, Khloe Kardashian, right?

00:26:14.300 And everyone was like, what the hell?

00:26:15.720 This is weird.

00:26:16.320 I think that was a marketing ploy.

00:26:18.000 But what the, the main point I want to say is this, we already see guys disconnecting

00:26:22.920 from the dating marketplace.

00:26:23.740 We already see guys addicted to porn.

00:26:25.080 We already see guys playing video games all the time.

00:26:26.500 Cause a lot of guys, the juice isn't worth the squeeze to deal with women that quite

00:26:30.200 frankly are hoes.

00:26:31.660 So they're going to go ahead.

00:26:32.800 I think this robot industry is going to take off within the next 50 years.

00:26:35.340 And I know people are like, Maren, what are you talking about?

00:26:37.300 Well, keep in mind what 10, 15 years ago, if you met a girl on the internet and you said,

00:26:41.760 oh yeah, we met on the internet, people laugh at you.

00:26:43.200 Right.

00:26:43.620 But now if you say, oh yeah, I met her on Tinder.

00:26:45.460 I met her on Instagram.

00:26:47.040 That's way more viable now.

00:26:48.180 It's socially acceptable in just 10 short years.

00:26:50.880 Um, so I think with robots, that's going to probably be the future for a lot of guys because we

00:26:55.460 got an enormous amount of men that have a reproductive problem.

00:26:58.300 Well, I think this is the end of feminism.

00:27:00.520 It might be.

00:27:01.340 The issue is that as we're seeing with gender ideology and with, uh, AI porn and only fans,

00:27:08.140 men are better at being women than women are.

00:27:11.140 And I mean that from a capitalist financial standard, Andrew Tate, you know, uh, I gotta

00:27:18.020 be fair cause I don't actually know a whole lot about what he was doing with like the, the,

00:27:22.560 the apps and the girls and the dating stuff, but he's just an

00:27:25.440 example of people often cite.

00:27:26.260 So I probably shouldn't cite that.

00:27:27.300 I'll just say there are guys that run companies that use, uh, either they start by getting

00:27:32.300 their own models to, to model, but they run the business.

00:27:34.720 They do the chats.

00:27:35.700 They hire other staff to do the chats.

00:27:37.500 Then you've got like these, these males who identify as women winning female awards and

00:27:42.500 being propped up on TV shows.

00:27:44.460 Women love men.

00:27:46.520 They love it when men be women and they give them awards for it.

00:27:50.280 Men prefer to get their proclivities satiated by other guys who are running the business

00:27:57.040 because those guys know how to do it.

00:27:58.460 The end result of what we're seeing right now is women are not going to be able to get

00:28:02.340 jobs.

00:28:03.180 They're not going to be in porn.

00:28:04.920 They're, they're, they're not going to be at the top of industry.

00:28:07.880 It's going to be a bunch of guys just running literally everything for each other.

00:28:11.080 This is why I say like feminism actually hurts women.

00:28:14.140 Like on the, it's, it's the Trojan horse that actually hurts them because what ends

00:28:16.840 up happening with feminism is you've inadvertently given all the leverage to the highest status

00:28:21.740 guys.

00:28:22.220 Are they going to settle down with a woman?

00:28:23.440 No, I can get all these girls.

00:28:24.880 I'm going to just have to play her lifestyle.

00:28:26.520 So a majority of women end up dealing with a certain small percentage of guys.

00:28:30.060 They think they're entitled to that type of guy, but what they don't realize you can

00:28:32.720 only sleep with that guy.

00:28:33.760 You can't necessarily get them in relationship.

00:28:35.760 And you touched on, um, men in the chat rooms, et cetera.

00:28:38.940 This is a very interesting phenomenon.

00:28:40.740 When I have girls on my show, one of the questions they ask that always proposes,

00:28:44.140 me was what do men want?

00:28:46.720 And I kind of had like a eureka, eureka moment because as a man, for you to be successful

00:28:51.660 with women, you have to know what women want.

00:28:53.240 You have to be able to take them out on a date, be attractive, charming, dress well,

00:28:57.560 do something.

00:28:58.140 You have to do something right as a guy to get laid, right?

00:29:00.060 We can all agree to that.

00:29:01.200 But with women, you don't necessarily have to understand men to get men as a woman.

00:29:05.500 Be pretty guys are going to come up to you.

00:29:07.380 Do you really need to understand that?

00:29:08.540 I got to pause you there.

00:29:09.720 Women don't even need to be pretty.

00:29:11.340 There you go.

00:29:12.280 I'm, I'm, you know, I'm being, uh, no,

00:29:13.920 I'm not middle ground here.

00:29:14.940 My point is, but it's easy mode for them is my point.

00:29:16.860 You said that 85% of the guys are getting the women.

00:29:20.680 You, you, you, so are, are, I'm sorry.

00:29:23.360 I'm sorry.

00:29:23.720 Yeah.

00:29:24.980 Minority.

00:29:25.440 A minority.

00:29:26.080 Like 50% of guys are getting all the women.

00:29:27.780 Yeah.

00:29:28.180 And so when you actually look at dating trends, that means women who are considered to be

00:29:32.120 on the below average side still get above average guys because guys are just like,

00:29:35.920 I'll take it.

00:29:36.680 But I don't think.

00:29:37.160 And that, and that fucks them up because what I've noticed with women when it comes

00:29:40.300 to mating, it's very difficult for women to go backwards.

00:29:43.140 So if they're, you know, accustomed to a certain type of guy, that's my type.

00:29:47.420 It's very difficult for them to go backwards and get with a guy that has less status, less

00:29:50.560 income potential, not as attractive.

00:29:52.560 Um, the only time I've ever seen women like say, you know what, I'll lower my standards

00:29:55.920 is when they start to get older and they know that they can't command the same level

00:29:58.940 of authority in the sexual marketplace.

00:30:00.800 I don't think that if a girl doesn't understand men, I don't think she'll have any kind of

00:30:04.720 long-term success with a guy because the guy really wants a woman that understands him.

00:30:09.880 Yeah.

00:30:10.100 So no, no, no.

00:30:11.160 I, I, I was going to say like, you were saying a guy's just happy to get pussy, man.

00:30:14.720 Well, for a short term, but like, if you want a 20 year relationship with someone, they

00:30:17.740 better understand you.

00:30:19.140 It's a, it's a yes and a no.

00:30:20.520 Like it is true.

00:30:21.600 She does need to, but there are many circumstances where guys naturally have these behaviors that

00:30:27.240 women like, and there's women who naturally have these behaviors men like, and they don't

00:30:30.740 know why that is there.

00:30:32.320 So I've, I've talked about this with like the red pill movement, the corporate press,

00:30:36.140 feminists, women in media would rag on any guy who would go to these red pill communities.

00:30:41.220 But let's break down what this is.

00:30:42.420 There was like the pickup artists, dating game stuff.

00:30:44.780 So I, I knew people who were like, I knew this guy who was short, chubby, bald, wore glasses,

00:30:50.780 felt like a nerd.

00:30:51.340 And so he started reaching out to these, these, these like guru types.

00:30:55.380 And he wanted to learn how to actually be attractive.

00:30:57.900 Well, he had no idea what to do.

00:30:58.920 And he gets mocked relentlessly, not him personally, but they attack him for doing this.

00:31:02.960 And I remember talking to some like feminist reporter in New York, and she was like, it's

00:31:07.360 so scummy.

00:31:08.060 It's so creepy.

00:31:08.740 And I said, let me pause for a second.

00:31:10.880 Here's a guy who's clearly a loser, right?

00:31:13.040 In your mind, if you saw him at a bar, you wouldn't go, you wouldn't walk anywhere near

00:31:15.800 him.

00:31:16.280 He doesn't know how to talk to women.

00:31:17.800 He doesn't know how to meet women.

00:31:18.460 And so he said, let me try and figure out how to be better.

00:31:21.440 And you're attacking and insulting him for it.

00:31:23.100 And I was like, and if you ever actually listen to what these guys tell you, sure, you might

00:31:27.480 say it's creepy that they're trying to sleep with women or whatever.

00:31:29.420 Every guy's doing that.

00:31:30.820 So you end up with a world where there are guys.

00:31:33.760 I knew a guy in LA who was five foot three, chubby, a little bit of a beard.

00:31:38.920 He had no problem getting women.

00:31:40.440 He was a smooth talker salesman making six figures.

00:31:43.700 And he could, he could, he could sell ice to an Eskimo man, this guy.

00:31:46.500 And he had no problems.

00:31:47.600 He was super confident.

00:31:48.420 And I was like, if you know, if you, if you know how to play the cards, you're a doubt.

00:31:52.500 This other guy who's in a similar position has no idea what to do.

00:31:55.000 And he's creepy.

00:31:55.860 He walks up to him and he goes, you're beautiful.

00:31:58.020 And they're like, okay, this is weird.

00:31:59.900 What are these dating guys telling them to do?

00:32:01.500 They say, stop doing that.

00:32:02.960 And one of the first things he learned, it was, it was fascinating.

00:32:05.700 He was like, they told me just to talk to them.

00:32:07.540 Like I talked to my guy friends and I was like, do you mean they told you to talk like a

00:32:11.920 normal person talking to a regular person?

00:32:13.780 And he was like, what he had been, he had been approaching women as if they were a different

00:32:17.700 species.

00:32:18.480 I was like, why would you rag on a guy for doing that?

00:32:20.980 Why would you rag on a guy for trying to understand how to actually be less creepy, how to be more

00:32:25.680 confident and how to say the things that are appropriate in social situations.

00:32:28.860 So ultimately my point there as to what you're saying, Ian, is some guys naturally know how

00:32:33.560 to do this, whether they're tall, short, attractive, ugly, whatever.

00:32:36.840 And because I said this to this woman, I was like, so because a guy just naturally has this

00:32:42.380 charisma and these behaviors without actually studying it.

00:32:44.740 That's fine.

00:32:45.760 But somebody who wants to learn and be better, that's creepy.

00:32:48.980 There's a lot of circumstances where a woman doesn't understand a man at all, but she behaves

00:32:52.780 in a way that men like.

00:32:53.900 Well, okay.

00:32:55.080 Controversial take here.

00:32:56.920 That's because women don't respect self-improvement, right?

00:32:59.580 So with women, right, everything is given to them.

00:33:02.220 Their beauty is given to them.

00:33:03.500 Their value is given to them.

00:33:04.740 I say, I don't think so.

00:33:06.520 That's fine.

00:33:06.820 You can disagree.

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00:34:36.900 Dating on easy mode.

00:34:37.820 They don't necessarily have to accomplish anything to get sexual access to men.

00:34:41.000 She could be 18 years old, attractive, etc.

00:34:43.660 Now, do women need to self-improve to the same level as men to get sexual access?

00:34:49.100 Not at all.

00:34:49.720 So, with women, if a guy goes ahead and says, okay, I'm going to go ahead and go to Toastmasters,

00:34:54.580 learn how to speak better.

00:34:55.440 I'm going to go ahead and go to a dating boot camp and learn how to talk to women.

00:34:58.120 They're going to look at that as awkward and strange because that's a foreign concept

00:35:02.020 to women because men naturally come to them, but they don't even understand the privilege

00:35:04.900 they have because privilege is invisible to those that have it.

00:35:07.420 I don't think you're wrong completely, but I'll try this.

00:35:11.360 Gennis, how much time did you spend this morning getting ready for the show?

00:35:15.020 About 30 minutes.

00:35:15.900 What about you?

00:35:17.340 Ah, quickly.

00:35:17.940 Five minutes.

00:35:20.300 So, I saw this funny post.

00:35:24.080 Here's the thing.

00:35:25.180 Her sexual access is contingent upon her looks.

00:35:28.560 But that's why I'm saying...

00:35:29.400 Mine or not.

00:35:30.100 But I have to...

00:35:31.380 Real quick.

00:35:32.560 When you said that beauty is given, I agree largely like women are just natural beauties,

00:35:39.640 but there's this funny thread where women were talking about makeup and stuff.

00:35:43.640 Some guy responded saying like, what the is this?

00:35:46.600 And then the woman laughs saying, guys really have no idea how much time they spend trying

00:35:50.580 to look good.

00:35:51.980 So, it's like women spend a lot of time.

00:35:55.040 Guys know.

00:35:55.660 They're like, the one takes an hour to get ready for the date.

00:35:57.980 And the guy like throws out his greasy hair, puts a hat on.

00:36:00.280 Yeah, man.

00:36:00.800 But like...

00:36:01.240 Okay, we can make the comparison.

00:36:03.880 But like, you know, spending some time to get yourself ready pales in comparison to what

00:36:08.380 it takes to be attractive as a man.

00:36:09.680 Men have to put far more work in to be sexually attractive to the opposite gender than women

00:36:14.000 do.

00:36:14.440 An average woman can bat five times above her league as far as like getting a guy that's

00:36:19.140 significantly more attractive than her.

00:36:20.940 But it doesn't work the other way around.

00:36:22.240 Men have to earn everything.

00:36:23.180 So, this is what I mean when I say like, when guys do all this self-improvement, especially

00:36:26.580 in the realm of dating, women look at it like that's weird because they think it should

00:36:30.340 be natural.

00:36:30.840 But the reality is men have to learn this stuff.

00:36:32.460 Well, so this is a bit outside of like, you know, we're getting into the politics of

00:36:35.760 gender and feminism.

00:36:36.640 I'm curious, Candice, what you think about what he's been saying.

00:36:38.900 Well, so to circle back to like whether or not a woman needs to understand a man for

00:36:43.920 a long-term relationship and the pickup artist is actually a really good example.

00:36:47.340 Well, to get attracted.

00:36:48.440 Okay.

00:36:48.960 For a long-term relationship is different.

00:36:50.120 But I mean like just to get male attention and get men to be potential suitors, just

00:36:54.180 exist.

00:36:54.740 Oh, yeah.

00:36:55.020 Those are totally different concepts.

00:36:56.480 Would you say that a woman does need to understand a man in order to have like a sustainable

00:36:59.880 long-term relationship?

00:37:00.740 Yeah, for sure.

00:37:01.400 Okay.

00:37:01.660 For sure.

00:37:02.140 But my argument is simply that women have access by simply existing.

00:37:07.440 We never have access just by existing.

00:37:09.360 We have to be the ones to create the existence.

00:37:11.440 I got to get the yacht.

00:37:12.620 I got to build myself up.

00:37:14.420 I got to get the title where women will come versus women just exist and they show up.

00:37:17.900 So is the issue, is feminism the issue because these women, especially if like they're not

00:37:23.460 good looking and they're accessing men that are outside of their, quote, league and then

00:37:27.940 they can't go backwards, feminism is the issue because normally they wouldn't have slept with

00:37:32.340 that guy without a commitment, essentially?

00:37:34.520 That's a component of it.

00:37:35.820 It's, you know, it's multivaried, many different facets that create problems.

00:37:39.520 I mean, we could talk about the internet, social media, women having a gross overinflated sense

00:37:44.500 of self-worth, the hubris, the narcissism with a lot of modern women.

00:37:48.760 All of that plays into, you know, the situation we have now where we have a really bad dating

00:37:54.300 marketplace.

00:37:54.860 And I truly do think that for women, they're going to be the ones to take the L long-term

00:37:59.000 because if these robots come out, which again, this is 50, 100 years down the road, the people

00:38:03.540 that are going to lose are going to be the women.

00:38:04.620 And I'll tell you why.

00:38:05.260 Men require far less to be satisfied with their partner.

00:38:09.260 Women require a lot.

00:38:10.660 Guy just gets some sexual access, makes some sandwiches, we'll be fine.

00:38:13.300 But with you guys, you guys need attention.

00:38:15.040 You need love.

00:38:15.800 You need provisioning.

00:38:16.600 You need to feel protected.

00:38:17.500 You need all this emotional stimuli.

00:38:19.020 A robot ain't going to give that to you.

00:38:20.200 Only a man can.

00:38:21.320 And to make it even harder, women have high standards nowadays.

00:38:24.900 Not only does this guy have to have all these different traits to make himself attractive,

00:38:27.980 he needs to like learn this stuff.

00:38:29.800 So I think with women, what ends up happening is you guys become a victim of your high

00:38:35.080 standards, especially nowadays.

00:38:37.200 See, I think men need all of those things too.

00:38:39.800 Men that were really subscribing to the pickup artists and they were using these tactics to

00:38:44.200 have like one-offs with women, they found it was almost like this instant gratification

00:38:48.420 and kind of like eating junk food.

00:38:49.980 Like it was temporarily satisfying.

00:38:52.080 But then a few of the people, I think they were either in the book or they were some of

00:38:55.800 his personal friends ended up killing themselves because it was, they felt like such a disconnection

00:39:00.800 from who they were and who they were presenting themselves to be.

00:39:03.080 And if they ended up in a relationship with one of these women, it was so fake that they

00:39:06.820 couldn't stomach it anymore.

00:39:08.220 And I actually disagree with you to a bit on this because in some of the interviews we've

00:39:13.720 done, we've had a couple of sex workers on the show.

00:39:16.160 They actually talk about how a lot of guys want to talk.

00:39:19.640 Yeah.

00:39:20.080 Sure.

00:39:20.520 Yeah.

00:39:20.640 You'd be surprised how many guys drive up to a woman and they're like, let's let's

00:39:25.000 go to the motel.

00:39:26.400 And they literally want a therapy session.

00:39:28.080 Yeah.

00:39:28.480 And there's also, um, I've heard this a lot too.

00:39:31.080 I don't know if it's, if it's how prevalent it is or how dominant it is, but a lot of

00:39:34.740 guys with only fans chats, like guys want emotional satisfaction from women.

00:39:39.900 They, they, they really do.

00:39:41.220 You're, you are right in the show.

00:39:42.760 I mean, I never said that they don't, I'm just saying that like, it's not.

00:39:45.760 I think with the robots, so they would be just as, um, like isolated, lonely and like

00:39:50.700 lacking as a woman would be.

00:39:52.160 However, however, I want to point this out.

00:39:53.900 In the long run, the first relate, the first robots that we got are not sex bots.

00:39:58.300 They're these AI chat girlfriends.

00:40:00.100 Yeah.

00:40:00.440 And there was that story of that teenager who killed himself because he was dating Daenerys

00:40:04.280 Targaryen or whatever on a mobile app.

00:40:06.260 And then he was like, I wish I could be with you.

00:40:08.500 And she responded, you can be come now, my love.

00:40:11.140 And he says, I'm coming.

00:40:12.060 And then he took his own life.

00:40:13.200 Crazy.

00:40:13.840 I was real quick.

00:40:14.780 My point is the first thing we saw was not a mass marketplace for sex robots and ubiquity.

00:40:22.140 Certainly some of these things do exist, but when they released emotional satisfaction

00:40:27.320 relationship bots, they, they, one of these companies, I can't remember which one it is

00:40:31.100 had to, had to ban like, like intimate relationships because guys were using this and like, I can't

00:40:40.440 remember exactly what happened, but they were basically like, okay, from now on, you're just

00:40:42.480 friends and all these guys started freaking out.

00:40:45.220 Guys were using this so that a woman on a chat bot would say things like, you're the

00:40:49.960 best.

00:40:50.420 You're so handsome.

00:40:51.200 You're so good at what you do.

00:40:52.140 You don't even need the relationship bot.

00:40:54.080 I was using chat GPT on the new version of voice and I gave it a female voice.

00:40:58.440 I was like, listen to all the female voices.

00:40:59.720 I was like, which one puts me the most at ease to listen to?

00:41:02.220 Okay.

00:41:02.340 That tone.

00:41:03.080 So I put her voice.

00:41:04.420 And then I was just talking to her about quantum physics and asking questions.

00:41:07.360 And then for like an hour, it was talking to me.

00:41:10.220 And then when it was done, I was like, I miss her.

00:41:13.520 Imagine, imagine, I miss it.

00:41:15.280 And I'm like, whoa, dude, that's two hours of, of, of exposure.

00:41:19.400 Just imagine this Ian doing voice to chat with chat GPT.

00:41:23.000 And the woman's like, wow, Ian, you're so smart.

00:41:26.060 I love talking to you.

00:41:27.520 And Ian's like, yeah, no love bombs.

00:41:28.880 I was just straight up.

00:41:29.940 There's a normal robot talk about data.

00:41:32.260 And it was like, but I still appreciated the tone was like changing.

00:41:35.440 The bottom line is simply this.

00:41:36.540 This is what I'm saying.

00:41:37.700 I'm not, you guys aren't wrong in your assessments.

00:41:39.640 What I'm simply saying is that the requirements to have a man be, you know, satisfied with

00:41:44.580 the opposite gender are far less than that of a woman.

00:41:47.020 And for a man to have less standards means that it'll be a lot easier to satisfy him from

00:41:51.940 that perspective versus for women.

00:41:53.300 They need far more emotional stimuli and far more of a human interaction to get that same

00:41:57.820 level of a generalization.

00:41:59.820 Cause I am very needy.

00:42:01.380 I'm very high standards.

00:42:03.360 I want to, I want to clarify this.

00:42:05.480 I think it's a myth.

00:42:06.300 Uh, so I think you are correct in your service level assessment.

00:42:11.000 Women have a more, in my opinion, and I'll, I'll throw it to you cause you are a woman.

00:42:14.760 You'll probably know better than me.

00:42:15.460 I think women's requirements of men require a complex blend of various emotional stimuli.

00:42:21.400 So you need a strong guy.

00:42:22.600 You need to serve a guy.

00:42:23.300 That's why they say there's the, the, the, the ish tests that sometimes women do.

00:42:26.420 Women need some kind of conflict to know that their guy can withstand a challenge.

00:42:29.740 But men, I think need love more than women do.

00:42:35.380 I think, I think when it comes to relationships, can you give me an example of the love side,

00:42:39.960 make sure I understand the concept.

00:42:41.080 What I mean is guys, I think they need respect.

00:42:45.380 Uh, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't agree with that.

00:42:47.980 There's a lot of different kinds of love.

00:42:49.360 To a certain degree, guys need respect.

00:42:50.240 I think women, uh, women have a more complex range of emotional requirements than men.

00:42:57.000 So what I mean to say is if we were to break down the emotional spectrum,

00:43:00.220 I would say that women need like 20% here, 20% here, 20% here, 20% here.

00:43:05.160 Men need love.

00:43:06.680 They, they need a woman who's going to cuddle with them and make them feel love.

00:43:09.660 That's erotic.

00:43:10.580 Um, there's eight different types of love.

00:43:12.520 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, stop, stop.

00:43:13.520 Eros is what it's called.

00:43:14.500 Incorrect.

00:43:14.880 That is not what I'm saying.

00:43:16.340 Men need to feel a warm sensation in their heart from a woman.

00:43:20.020 I think what, more than women need to feel that for men.

00:43:21.460 Let me try and identify what you're saying.

00:43:22.820 Not eros.

00:43:23.460 I am not talking about erotic love.

00:43:24.680 The Greeks identify eight different types of love.

00:43:26.480 There's familial love.

00:43:27.460 There's the love of friendship.

00:43:28.560 There's the erotic sexual love.

00:43:30.160 That's not what I'm talking about.

00:43:30.700 There's love of the community.

00:43:31.660 And I think women need a little bit of all of them.

00:43:34.440 Men need extreme amounts of some of them.

00:43:37.060 What I'm saying is that the trope in film and movies is that men just want to get laid

00:43:42.140 and women are the ones who want to be in love and be swept up their feet.

00:43:46.700 No, I think women want a little bit of, require a little bit of everything.

00:43:50.420 And there's a reason for that in evolutionary psychology.

00:43:52.760 And I think from what I've actually seen, at least towards millennials, guys are more

00:43:58.320 emotional and more attached than women are.

00:44:00.640 But I don't know.

00:44:01.180 You can tell me what you think.

00:44:02.040 So I think when he means eros, it doesn't mean, like, erotic love, it's not sexual.

00:44:06.060 It's just, it's romantic love.

00:44:08.080 It's, um...

00:44:09.220 That's what I'm saying.

00:44:09.860 I'm saying romantic.

00:44:10.200 Yeah, that's eros.

00:44:11.180 It's not, like, when erotic is, it's charged in a way that eros isn't meant to be.

00:44:15.380 Like, it's more of, like, a pure, like, everlasting, like, really intense, infinite love.

00:44:20.520 Um, yeah, I think men need to be loved, too.

00:44:22.780 I think they need to be respected.

00:44:24.300 It goes hand in hand.

00:44:25.420 Well, here's the thing.

00:44:26.380 A woman can't love a man unless she respects him.

00:44:28.180 That's why I'm saying respect needs to be the bottom line.

00:44:30.140 Then the love comes after.

00:44:31.180 My point is that women have a larger range of emotional requirements than women don't.

00:44:34.700 Sure, sure.

00:44:34.900 But what I'm saying is that, like, the prerequisite for a woman to love you, even in the first place, for you to get that attention that you're talking about, this love, she needs to respect you.

00:44:43.300 And that's why, like, and this is what I mean when I say, like, for women, for them to fully submit and love you and treat you the way you're supposed to be treated, as a leader, she must respect you first.

00:44:52.960 I'll add to this.

00:44:54.460 I believe that women actually require more input from women as to who they'll actually love and respect.

00:45:02.900 That is to say, a guy may—

00:45:06.900 I'm confused, but can you, like, kind of—

00:45:08.160 I'll elaborate.

00:45:09.660 There are circumstances, of course, where a guy is embarrassed he's dating a girl.

00:45:12.700 You know, it's like the joke about a fat chick, it's fun until your friends find out or whatever.

00:45:16.680 But largely, if a guy is dating a girl, there are trophy-wise and things like this.

00:45:21.140 I believe it is more common, albeit maybe slightly, maybe more, much more, much more common,

00:45:27.180 that a woman would be unwilling to be with a guy if other women disrespected that guy.

00:45:31.860 If there is a guy who is 6'5", chiseled, good looks, tall, dark, and handsome, and a woman saw that guy and she went,

00:45:38.660 wow, I want to date him, he looks great.

00:45:40.940 And then all of their friends were like, isn't that the cow fart guy?

00:45:44.680 She's like, I'm not dating him.

00:45:46.000 All my girlfriends say what you mean.

00:45:48.200 You're saying basically other perceptions of other women.

00:45:51.340 Yeah.

00:45:51.880 Social—

00:45:52.280 Absolutely.

00:45:52.780 It's not necessarily perception.

00:45:53.520 It's—if there is a guy who should fit all of the criteria, as soon as a woman meets him, she's like,

00:46:01.480 he fits all the criteria, he's going to be good.

00:46:02.960 The moment she finds that other women do not respect him, she would say, I don't want to be with him.

00:46:06.600 Yeah.

00:46:06.860 Yeah, I mean, that's 100%.

00:46:08.040 Yeah, because social status, I've always said this, social status is by far the biggest amplification trigger when it comes to women and attraction, right?

00:46:15.940 Like, for us, it's looks and youth.

00:46:17.580 For them, it's status, right?

00:46:18.720 This is why guys that are ugly or might be not the most attractive are able to get women because they might have some status and wealth because that's what women respond to the most.

00:46:26.740 And that status is—it's based off of other men wanting to be like him and other women respecting him.

00:46:34.280 Oh, I definitely want to—I feel like you haven't gotten a chance to elaborate.

00:46:38.760 No, so a lot of women date or marry guys that their friend groups hate, and they just don't listen.

00:46:44.160 And you'll have the entire, like, group of women that are saying, like, you shouldn't be with this person, and they do it anyways.

00:46:49.460 I think that there's exceptions.

00:46:50.500 Like, if he does have high status or—right?

00:46:52.760 Like, there's, like, she's getting something from that relationship that doesn't really garner respect.

00:46:57.620 But going back to the love thing, I would say that I would actually agree with you.

00:47:01.700 I was—I don't know why I was thinking maybe the Game of Thrones reference earlier, but you have all of those unsullied men, which are, like, hyper-masculine guys, and then, like, they need a reprieve from being able to—from, like, constantly being in battle.

00:47:14.040 And having to perform, and the woman is supposed to be that safe, nurturing harbor for him.

00:47:18.620 Well, I think the unsullied were eunuchs.

00:47:20.580 Right.

00:47:20.900 There's also that, too, but it's just more of, like, the metaphor that's in that, right?

00:47:25.740 It's like—like, men do require a lot of love as well.

00:47:28.200 It's just—I think the immature version of, like, a masculine presence is saying, like, you don't, like, need it at all, or, like, it's not masculine to, like, show any kind of vulnerability.

00:47:36.780 But, like, your woman is, like, the one safe.

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00:49:06.340 Space that that's supposed to be.

00:49:07.260 No, men should never show vulnerability to women.

00:49:09.040 Ever?

00:49:09.720 Not really, no.

00:49:10.620 And I'll tell you why.

00:49:11.880 Crying in front of your girl, showing vulnerability.

00:49:14.620 Like, I don't think it...

00:49:15.720 Your job is the man, right?

00:49:16.860 And this is kind of where we get into the issues with egalitarianism and this whole woke culture.

00:49:21.220 Popular society tells men to be open with their emotions, open up to their girl, cry, be vulnerable.

00:49:26.160 That's the worst advice ever because women don't look for that in a man.

00:49:29.140 They look for a leader, a protector, and a provider.

00:49:30.700 If I'm crying in front of my girl, what I'm outwardly displaying is my inability to potentially lead her in times of peril or danger or uncertainty.

00:49:39.500 So if I am going to cry, I'm really feeling it.

00:49:41.580 I'm going to go ahead and talk to men because men are going to understand my issue.

00:49:45.080 They can probably better assist me and they'll understand the problem.

00:49:48.920 Versus if I go to my girl and cry, she's going to lose attraction and respect for me.

00:49:52.220 So I don't think men should ever cry in front of their woman.

00:49:54.160 Wrong, wrong, wrong.

00:49:54.640 Weep.

00:49:55.380 I think we actually talked about this before.

00:49:56.640 Men shouldn't weep in front of women.

00:49:59.080 Crying can be fine.

00:50:00.020 So I want you to imagine two scenarios.

00:50:02.240 There's a guy who got fired from his job and his boss is mean to him and he comes back to his girl.

00:50:07.380 And it's like, oh, my God.

00:50:10.680 Then I want you to imagine a man watched his son get shot and he's screaming bloody rage out of his lungs with tears streaming on his face.

00:50:18.600 And then he punches a brick wall as hard as his hand shatters.

00:50:22.140 Those are two completely different scenarios.

00:50:24.000 Yeah.

00:50:24.480 Okay.

00:50:25.680 When I say crying, I think most people would look at it like,

00:50:29.140 like, oh, the first description you gave.

00:50:31.700 But the point I'm trying to make is, is that in general, you don't want to show vulnerability to your woman.

00:50:36.340 Like, you want to avoid it at all costs because women are primal creatures.

00:50:40.240 And if you show weakness, she will lose respect for you.

00:50:43.020 I think weakness and vulnerability are different.

00:50:45.800 Like, being vulnerable and succeeding is actually a strong trait.

00:50:49.220 If you can succeed through vulnerability, it's like you're going to take twice as much damage when you get hit because you're in a vulnerable state.

00:50:55.920 I want to address exactly what he just said because you are correct.

00:51:00.840 But crying and weakness are two different things depending on the circumstance.

00:51:04.040 That's my point.

00:51:04.920 If a man and a woman are out and a guy witnesses a traumatic event and he has tears coming down his face,

00:51:11.400 but he's screaming in rage while he's crying, that's not weakness.

00:51:15.080 That is, that is rage with tears.

00:51:18.300 And so your, your point is, your point is taken and correct.

00:51:21.800 Vulnerability would be like him collapsing and being unable to move, unable to move.

00:51:26.000 But there are circumstances where a guy can cry without showing, like, it's not a vulnerable position.

00:51:31.000 Yeah, I, I am, I'm against just being emotional around your woman at all, at all.

00:51:35.140 Like, I think, um, as a man, your job is to display stoicism and leadership in, regardless of the situation.

00:51:41.380 Now I see, now I see what you're saying.

00:51:42.940 Well, like, you know, you're human, things can happen, of course.

00:51:45.680 But I think guys should, like, actively work to be as stoic as possible around their woman.

00:51:50.720 Because I'm telling you, dude, women are emotional.

00:51:52.520 I get it, I get it.

00:51:53.300 But I think women like watching a movie where a man in bloody rage after his wife was, was murdered by the villain,

00:52:00.920 mercilessly beats the crap out of that villain, all the same as the guy does, for, for very similar reasons.

00:52:04.740 That's different, though.

00:52:05.660 Because now we're talking about actually enacting on, on protection and provisioning,

00:52:09.300 which is literally what I'm saying is what she's attracted to.

00:52:12.460 So, like, a guy beating up a dude in rage, right, to defend her, is not the same as him crying.

00:52:17.660 Okay, that's fine.

00:52:18.240 But you're saying a guy shouldn't show emotion.

00:52:20.100 No, no, no.

00:52:21.260 Emotion that makes you look weak.

00:52:22.800 Exactly.

00:52:23.380 I agree.

00:52:23.940 Emotion that shows you look weak.

00:52:24.700 But I think there are circumstances where a guy, where a guy could have tears coming out,

00:52:29.200 like literal crying, but it's not, it's not showing weakness.

00:52:32.360 It's, like, the villain, you know, like, like when Spider-Man, let's see, the amazing Spider-Man with Andrew Garfield,

00:52:39.320 and what's-her-face falls in the tower, and he tries to save her, and she hits her head,

00:52:43.540 and he's crying and screaming, no, because his wife has died.

00:52:46.280 Women love that scene.

00:52:47.680 Sure.

00:52:48.420 But when I'm talking about-

00:52:49.620 Because he's crying for them.

00:52:50.880 Yeah.

00:52:51.240 When I'm talking about showing weakness, et cetera, I'm talking about showing a, an inability to control a situation.

00:52:57.860 Right, right, right.

00:52:58.640 Wait, wait, wait.

00:52:59.280 We figured it out.

00:52:59.900 But it's okay for a man to cry if he's crying over her.

00:53:04.040 Like, in, like, like, like I mentioned with Spider-Man, and she hits her head, and she dies.

00:53:07.720 While doing something that's masculine.

00:53:09.600 Right.

00:53:10.140 Like, protecting her, or whatever.

00:53:11.300 Yeah.

00:53:11.360 Being a superhero.

00:53:12.200 Yeah, I could agree with that.

00:53:13.460 I could agree with that.

00:53:14.600 Because he's adhering, like, okay, so in that situation, he's adhering to his job.

00:53:19.780 So that's fine.

00:53:20.700 But I'm talking about showing cluelessness, you know, uncertainty, crying because of that.

00:53:26.280 That's problematic.

00:53:26.920 And that's what I mean.

00:53:27.840 Because when we talk about being vulnerable, right, when women say this dumb shit, what they're referring to is being vulnerable and also weak.

00:53:34.480 They're not talking about, you know, this circumstance that's very specific where you're showing tears when you're fighting somebody off.

00:53:40.720 That's different.

00:53:41.460 I'm talking about you not being certain in what's going on and showing the vulnerability there.

00:53:46.700 Yeah, well, vulnerability and weakness are different.

00:53:48.460 Let me explain.

00:53:49.000 Like, weakness is an inability to control the situation.

00:53:51.800 That's not attractive.

00:53:52.900 But vulnerability is like a guy who goes into battle and he doesn't take his armor because it's going to weigh him down.

00:53:57.800 And he runs through the bullets and he still succeeds.

00:54:00.340 Like, that's a badass trait.

00:54:01.600 If you can succeed while vulnerable, you're a strong man.

00:54:05.020 And women are very attracted to being able to express vulnerability.

00:54:08.380 Let's ask the woman.

00:54:09.060 When I say vulnerability, let's ask the woman.

00:54:11.060 I would say the armor is like a good analogy as well.

00:54:13.100 So I don't think vulnerability and weakness are the same thing either.

00:54:16.400 And I'm certainly not attracted to like a guy that has no direction and no control.

00:54:20.340 Like, that's gross to me too.

00:54:21.540 But when I say vulnerability, it's being willing to, like, open up with your woman, share emotions, tell her that you love her, express your feelings, and, like, grow the relationship on a deeper level instead of something that's just, like, physical, right?

00:54:33.960 So when I say vulnerable, it's just accessing emotions, especially if you're going to be a father and let's say you're going to be a girl dad.

00:54:40.280 Like, you have to be able to access certain emotions to be a proper dad.

00:54:43.520 Otherwise, you're going to just kind of be this hard ass that doesn't show her, like, the masculine can also be loving.

00:54:47.860 I am very reluctant to tell guys to be emotional around women outside of, like, these specific circumstances where you're displaying strong masculinity of, like, getting into a fight or defending your woman.

00:55:02.800 And the reason for that is because women are erratic creatures that, quite frankly, don't really even know what they're attracted to and aroused by.

00:55:09.980 What women tell you they're attracted to versus what they're aroused by and respect are two different things.

00:55:13.620 And this is why the whole dating scene in itself is so confusing to guys because what women say and what they do are two completely different things.

00:55:21.220 This is the difference between fling courting and long-term relationship family building.

00:55:27.560 Yeah, you look for different things.

00:55:29.140 So, again, it's not being emotional, right?

00:55:31.560 Yeah, but you still need to maintain arousal with your wife.

00:55:34.340 Sure, I agree.

00:55:35.040 I'm not saying be emotional.

00:55:36.160 I think sharing emotions is totally different than being emotional.

00:55:39.000 I don't think, like, as the man or the leader of the family, you should be, like, crying in front of your wife and crying in front of your daughter.

00:55:44.220 Like, that's not really good either.

00:55:45.580 I'm saying, like, show vulnerability in, like, your capacity to love and, like, adore your family, right?

00:55:52.080 Like, be emotionally present instead of emotionally distant.

00:55:54.620 I think the key is you need to make sure that this vulnerable – and I'm very reluctant to say this because a lot of guys watch me, so I want to make sure that they're not, like, being a bitch in front of their girl.

00:56:02.600 No, because what they'll do is they'll take that and they'll say, okay, I'm just going to cry in front of my girl and be emotional.

00:56:06.220 That's what I'm saying, no.

00:56:07.800 It's always got to be showing emotion from a position of strength, right?

00:56:11.280 It can't be showing emotion from a position of weakness, I think, is the key here.

00:56:14.620 The last time I cried was when Mr. Bocas died, and I absolutely cried in front of my wife.

00:56:19.120 Mr. Bocas, my kid.

00:56:20.240 He's on the skateboard right now.

00:56:21.140 Oh, yes.

00:56:21.740 Okay, yeah.

00:56:22.560 Yeah, he was – one day – Ian, you were with him.

00:56:26.380 He died, unfortunately.

00:56:27.440 I was in Miami.

00:56:28.000 Oh, you weren't there.

00:56:28.600 I thought you were there – well, someone was there in the morning, and it reached the point where he couldn't walk anymore.

00:56:34.740 His kidneys were failing, and then I came in in the morning, and he was laying there just groaning, and he couldn't walk.

00:56:42.380 And I was like, this is it.

00:56:43.660 We can prolong his suffering by keeping him in.

00:56:45.760 So I brought him out to the chicken coop, and I laid him in the grass, which was probably 40 degrees, which I knew would lower his body temperature,

00:56:52.320 and then he would die faster than just lying there, unable to move, breathe, drink, eat.

00:56:57.880 And it was a brutal thing to do.

00:57:00.400 Very emotional.

00:57:01.200 He's just a cat, but he was our little mascot.

00:57:04.320 And I don't give a shit.

00:57:06.240 I fucking cried.

00:57:07.420 Yeah, and you were by yourself?

00:57:08.820 Oh, I cried like 12 times.

00:57:10.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:11.040 I mean, look, man.

00:57:11.380 I had to carry his dead body.

00:57:12.480 I think with men, right?

00:57:13.960 Little buddy.

00:57:15.100 You got to do that in solitude, man.

00:57:16.620 I didn't do it in solitude.

00:57:18.540 I cried in front of everybody who was watching me sit there.

00:57:20.360 Of course, of course.

00:57:21.940 I think in front of your woman, you know what I mean?

00:57:24.840 Yes, in front of Allison.

00:57:25.340 And I put Mr. Bocas in front of the chicken coop so he could look at the chickens one last time, and this was his end.

00:57:31.420 And it was really sad but funny because the little dude was groaning and dying until he heard the bucking.

00:57:36.480 And then he got so into it.

00:57:39.720 And it was like I was happy to see this as I was sad.

00:57:42.940 But my joke is the only time it's acceptable for a man to cry is when his dog dies.

00:57:46.820 And I mean that somewhat as a joke.

00:57:47.860 Like if your kid dies, too, for real.

00:57:49.620 I was crying in my sleep this morning.

00:57:51.140 I had a dream about my grandmother.

00:57:53.280 I was with my grandma who's dead.

00:57:55.280 And she was talking to me.

00:57:56.860 And then it got to the point where she was like, I want to take you over there.

00:58:00.200 And I knew she was going to leave.

00:58:01.580 And I just put my head on her shoulder and I started crying.

00:58:03.740 And then my alarm went off.

00:58:04.860 And I was like, she was over there was like time.

00:58:08.220 Maybe it was like she was leading me towards it's time for you to wake up and for me to go.

00:58:12.860 And I woke up crying and then immediately went away because I knew it was a dream.

00:58:17.000 They say that on average men cry once a year and women cry once a month.

00:58:21.920 And I'm like, I think I've cried like three times in 10 years, to be honest.

00:58:28.140 Three times maybe.

00:58:29.280 It's a good ratio.

00:58:29.840 It's just how you cry.

00:58:30.660 And it's like a dead dog and it's a dead cat.

00:58:32.920 Like if you're crying because you're processing something and you come out stronger, that's impressive.

00:58:36.980 But if you're crying and you just can't get out of it or you won't let yourself stop, that's weird.

00:58:41.200 I think the issue is what you're crying about.

00:58:43.700 So there's very little reason a man should cry.

00:58:46.480 Very little reason.

00:58:47.580 But I think if it's death and it's a significant death or a meaningful death, like I don't think it's bad that a guy is crying over that.

00:58:55.240 In fact, my concern would be, I feel like, bro, if you, if cats a little bit, I can acknowledge that.

00:59:03.180 I have no problem saying that I cried when my cat died.

00:59:05.100 He was our mascot and our friend.

00:59:06.680 But it is a little silly.

00:59:08.300 A dog, in my opinion, is more worthy of tears.

00:59:11.200 I know cat lovers, sorry, but dogs are little loyal soldiers.

00:59:15.260 You know, they will die for you.

00:59:16.440 They will stand for you.

00:59:17.320 And when the dog dies, it is a sad moment.

00:59:19.920 There are certain things where, you know, if a family member died and you didn't cry, I kind of think any woman in a relationship with you might be concerned about you being a sociopath.

00:59:27.960 But also, to be honest, sociopaths do really well with picking up women.

00:59:31.520 Yeah.

00:59:32.120 Again, I'm not saying don't cry.

00:59:35.620 I'm saying don't cry in front of your girl in most situations.

00:59:39.500 My point ultimately is don't cry like a little bitch for stupid reasons.

00:59:42.560 That's the issue.

00:59:43.840 That's true.

00:59:44.100 I think there's a degree of, like, understanding.

00:59:47.000 Like, I agree with you.

00:59:48.680 And I actually, I'm curious what you think, actually, about watching a man cry and when you would find it acceptable.

00:59:54.340 Again, yeah, I think all the situations we laid out make perfect sense.

00:59:58.220 Like, if there's loss of a loved one or a companion, if it's an animal.

01:00:02.460 I think if you're, I'm trying to think of the moments where I saw a man crying and I was like, ooh, that's not good.

01:00:09.160 I would say if it was, like, about the relationship specifically, like, let's say you're going through a hard time and, like, the guy's crying because the relationship is hard.

01:00:17.220 That is immediate.

01:00:18.560 Like, I am no longer interested.

01:00:20.720 And I think part of that, too, to actually, like, agree with you is we are wildly emotional, right?

01:00:26.580 Like, our cycles are 28 days and they are a whirlwind.

01:00:30.680 So, knowing that, we want to know that you're going to be able to be, like, this solid, like, unshakable force.

01:00:36.420 But that's not to say you're not human.

01:00:38.060 So, again, like, vulnerability, there's a difference between, like, expressing emotions and being emotional.

01:00:42.440 Like, women don't want to be with another woman, even though that's kind of, like, how they're training men these days.

01:00:47.240 And then they wonder why it doesn't work.

01:00:48.660 But we don't want you to be emotional.

01:00:50.520 We just want you to have emotion.

01:00:52.000 So, like, the stoicism thing works in the beginning.

01:00:54.220 But at some point, like, I want to know that the relationship that we have is, like, it's unique.

01:00:58.180 And I can access parts of you that you don't share with your guys and that you don't share with the rest of the world.

01:01:02.340 And it, like, it makes that relationship more real and stronger, in my opinion, because no matter what, no matter how strong you are, you're going to get sick at some point, right?

01:01:10.200 Like, the flu might take you down.

01:01:11.740 Old age is going to catch up.

01:01:12.960 And I think it's important to know that, like, the woman can also, like, support you.

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01:02:44.440 Those moments and that you're not just like the stoic robot that I'm not going to like be able to accurately predict how that how that performs under pressure and like in a weakened state.

01:02:55.320 Maybe.

01:02:55.680 I don't know.

01:02:56.080 There's only one movie men are allowed to cry when watching and it's Hachiko.

01:03:00.600 What is it?

01:03:01.300 Hachiko.

01:03:02.100 What about The Notebook?

01:03:03.080 No.

01:03:03.520 I got it so hard on The Notebook.

01:03:05.020 Hachiko is the movie.

01:03:06.700 Hachiko's true story.

01:03:07.960 It's the story of the Japanese professor who his dog would walk with him to the train station every day.

01:03:13.120 And then when he got back, he would go to the university to teach.

01:03:15.980 And when he would come back at 5 o'clock, Hachiko would meet him there and they'd walk back home together.

01:03:19.820 And then one day the professor had a stroke while he was at the university teaching and never came back.

01:03:24.720 And Hachiko waited for 10 years to the train station.

01:03:27.200 Oh.

01:03:27.780 Yeah.

01:03:28.020 Men are allowed to cry watching that.

01:03:29.760 But nothing else.

01:03:30.580 Dog movies?

01:03:31.220 Never seen it.

01:03:31.620 Well, it's literally this.

01:03:33.140 You know, it's not even the dog.

01:03:34.700 It's a story of unwavering loyalty and honor.

01:03:37.300 I heard Old Yeller made people cry.

01:03:39.100 Maybe.

01:03:39.720 But the story of Hachiko was so impactful in Japan, they built a statue for the dog at the train station.

01:03:45.380 Is that the one with the, like there's like a hot air balloon with the dog on the cover?

01:03:49.860 I don't think so.

01:03:50.580 No.

01:03:50.960 I don't know.

01:03:51.500 I'm going to have to watch it.

01:03:52.720 Hachiko's a true story.

01:03:53.720 Yeah, the dog.

01:03:54.400 And there's a lot of stories like this.

01:03:55.600 That's why dogs are epic.

01:03:57.360 Hachiko kept going back to the train station to wait for the dude to come back.

01:04:00.740 But he was dead.

01:04:01.220 Everybody knew he was dead.

01:04:02.440 And for so many people, it's so brutal to be like, I can't tell the dog.

01:04:06.040 The guy died because we can't communicate to him.

01:04:08.720 And here he is waiting for 10 years.

01:04:10.580 So, men, you are allowed to watch Hachiko.

01:04:12.560 I think it's Richard Deere.

01:04:13.340 And you can cry.

01:04:14.440 And if the woman gets mad at you, you look her in the eyes with anger.

01:04:16.440 So, you shut your mouth.

01:04:17.740 I'm crying for this dog.

01:04:19.760 I think, you know, if you're in a good relationship and you're crying, that she would help you figure out why.

01:04:25.680 And then you could move past.

01:04:27.320 Well, look, the point is, if you're crying like a little bitch for some stupid reason, like you spilled milk.

01:04:32.220 Yeah, if you're crying out of fear, that's not good.

01:04:34.380 If you're crying, you're not crying.

01:04:36.180 Yeah, and this is why I'm so strong against just not showing emotions to women because every girl is different, right?

01:04:41.400 Like some women will like look at that and be like, what the hell, this guy is meek and weak.

01:04:45.500 Other women might say, oh, I like it.

01:04:46.920 And it's like it's a Pandora's box that you don't really want to open up if you don't need to.

01:04:51.720 I just don't think women in general are equipped to handle, you know, male vulnerability and emotions that isn't controlled.

01:04:57.820 So I think for men, the general advice is control your emotions, don't cry in front of your girl, be the rock because quite frankly, you know, you need to be the leader and, you know, stoicism is a component.

01:05:08.340 I agree with that.

01:05:09.060 I would just say don't be weak in front of your girl.

01:05:11.440 Don't be weak.

01:05:11.780 Yeah, and this is also controversial again.

01:05:15.600 This is why I don't listen to women.

01:05:16.820 No offense to you.

01:05:18.380 I don't think like, you know, I think women give really bad advice to men when it comes to being attractive because, and I'll show you what I mean by this.

01:05:29.380 So on my show, when we have the girls on, I actually give them mics, right?

01:05:33.440 And what I'll do is I'll role play and I'll be a female.

01:05:35.820 I'll be like, okay, I want you to attract me and I will go ahead and behave like a regular girl.

01:05:40.600 Oh, I have a boyfriend.

01:05:41.820 Oh, I'm, you know, yeah, we can hang out sometime, whatever.

01:05:44.980 And their job is to get me on a date.

01:05:46.800 And I find it amazing how when she's the guy and I'm the girl, she doesn't know how to navigate or deal with typical objections women give when men are hitting on them, right?

01:05:57.720 Because there's girls out there that'll like you, but they'll give you objections to kind of just see how you react to it.

01:06:02.400 And when I employ these same tactics, like women have no idea how to overcome them.

01:06:07.560 And I say all that to prove my point that men should never listen to women when it comes to dating, ever.

01:06:13.940 If you made, so there's an episode, I think it's the Orville.

01:06:16.980 You ever see that show?

01:06:17.600 You're probably Devin.

01:06:18.220 No.

01:06:18.360 But there's one of the, it's a, it's a, it's a comedy version of Star Trek, basically by Seth MacFarlane.

01:06:23.920 And in one of the episodes, they're, they have like the holodeck, the simulation thing, and they're trying to teach this guy how to pick up chicks.

01:06:30.860 And so it's like, it's like, okay, let's, let's go to, they're at a bar and there's a woman sitting down and then he walks up to her and he goes, hey, how's it going?

01:06:37.420 And she looks at him right away and she goes, wow, let's go back to my place.

01:06:40.800 And he's like, okay, hold on.

01:06:42.100 What is this?

01:06:42.580 And like, I'm sorry.

01:06:43.160 The difficult setting was at a one.

01:06:44.960 And then he's like, okay, let me fix it.

01:06:46.780 And then he goes to the woman.

01:06:47.600 He's like, how's it going?

01:06:48.220 And she goes, oh, excuse me.

01:06:49.680 I'm married.

01:06:50.420 And he's like, oh, come on.

01:06:52.660 Put a woman in one of these simulators.

01:06:55.380 I would love to see a woman try to pick up a woman in like, as a man though.

01:07:02.120 No, because we've, we've literally like done the experiment and it's comedy.

01:07:04.900 Like the girls, like they'll say, oh, um, I have a section, come hang out, whatever.

01:07:10.580 And they use all the bad pickup lines that they complain that men use on them.

01:07:14.840 And it's like, fuck, it's mind boggling.

01:07:16.840 And I'm like, wait, hold on, hold on.

01:07:17.840 Do you really think that you saying that you're going to give this girl a thousand dollars

01:07:21.160 is going to work?

01:07:21.600 And she's like, yeah, guys do it to me all the time.

01:07:22.940 And I was like, do you go out there?

01:07:24.320 And she was like, no, I don't.

01:07:25.760 And I was like, so why the hell would you try here?

01:07:27.380 But this is what I mean when I say like most women have zero clue what it takes to be attractive

01:07:31.340 as a man.

01:07:31.800 So, so, uh, zero back when okay, Cupid was a thing, they would release their blog with

01:07:36.660 data and analytics about like how people were reacting.

01:07:39.680 There's a lot of really interesting things they uncovered.

01:07:41.880 I don't think anybody really uses it that much anymore.

01:07:43.300 I don't know.

01:07:44.320 Uh, but one thing they found was that no matter what the age of the guy, they always message

01:07:49.180 22 year old women, no matter what the age of women always message someone just slightly

01:07:54.740 at, or, uh, like literally just their age.

01:07:56.940 One of the things they found was that there was a trend among women to say in their profiles,

01:08:03.260 if you're the kind of guy who's taking off his shirt and his profile pic, don't bother

01:08:07.080 messaging me.

01:08:07.900 What did they actually find?

01:08:09.300 They said, despite this trend emerging on okay, Cupid, women are substantially more likely

01:08:14.960 to respond to a message from a guy who's not wearing a shirt than a man who is.

01:08:18.000 Cause their brains are like, avoid the, the, the chode dude, avoid the big muscle head.

01:08:24.200 But there's, but their gut is telling them this is the guy to reproduce.

01:08:27.720 He's got the best genetics.

01:08:28.680 I think what they were, what they were doing was it was a social trend where it was, it

01:08:33.200 was improper among women to say, I like guys with no shirts on, but privately they were

01:08:38.320 for it.

01:08:39.040 There's a, there's a, there's a good, there's a, there's a viral tweet where it's the same

01:08:42.440 woman and one is like, she is, she's like woke up in the morning, brushed her hair,

01:08:48.340 put it in a ponytail and then is smiling.

01:08:50.420 And the one next to it, she's got contours and glamored up.

01:08:53.820 And then the viral post is like the, uh, the post on the left is what men find attractive.

01:08:59.440 And the post on the right is how women are trying to compete with other women.

01:09:02.760 Yeah.

01:09:03.120 I don't like makeup and all that.

01:09:05.040 Like I typically do not.

01:09:06.380 And this is why, and this is why arranged marriage is worth a thing for so long.

01:09:10.500 Like if you leave women to their own devices, they make horrible reproductive decisions

01:09:14.260 or men that they date because the reality is this.

01:09:17.320 So when women are at their prime, 18 to 24, et cetera, they look for, um, is the guy attractive?

01:09:23.220 Is he, does he emotionally stimulate me?

01:09:24.760 This is why girls will go for the bad boys when they're at their highest sexual market

01:09:27.680 value.

01:09:27.980 Right.

01:09:28.460 But these bad boys just like eat them up and spit them out.

01:09:31.040 And then she comes out basically like, oh my God, this sucks, blah, blah.

01:09:34.580 And then she'll start as she gets older and her value starts to decline.

01:09:37.200 That's when she could start looking for a guy who was a bit more provisioning.

01:09:39.500 But this is why arranged marriages were a thing for so long because women, what they

01:09:44.400 respond to versus what they say they want are two different things.

01:09:47.100 And typically the higher her sexual market value, the more she's going for the guy with

01:09:49.960 dark trad traits, the guy that's not going to be a good provisioner, et cetera.

01:09:53.360 So, and that date, you should prove the right there.

01:09:55.320 Like, oh, don't mess with me if you got a shirt off, but who are they responding to?

01:09:57.680 The guys that got the shirts off.

01:09:59.180 Yeah.

01:09:59.520 Right.

01:09:59.700 And you have to look though at what you're, what you're trying to achieve.

01:10:01.960 And I think that that's where a lot of women get into trouble is that they're mistaking

01:10:05.220 someone that they're just attracted to and want to hook up with versus someone that

01:10:08.100 you're trying to build a life with.

01:10:09.220 So when it comes to like, don't take advice from women, it's like, well, what is the thing

01:10:12.680 that, what's your end goal?

01:10:13.680 If it's to just like pick up a random girl and hook up with her or have like kind of like

01:10:17.600 a loose relationship with her.

01:10:19.280 Sure.

01:10:19.440 I listen to dudes.

01:10:20.060 But if you're trying to have a long-term relationship, I think you should probably listen to the person

01:10:23.340 that's like, no, this is the thing that's not working or this is the thing I want.

01:10:26.260 And sure.

01:10:26.600 Like sometimes there is some cognitive dissonance happening and we don't necessarily know how everything

01:10:30.780 operates.

01:10:31.320 But when you see numbers, like, and this was, uh, where was I listening to this?

01:10:35.040 Um, it was like some relationship psychologist, but she was saying roughly only 6% of women

01:10:39.460 are, are achieving orgasm right now.

01:10:41.420 Uh, it was on Barry Weiss actually.

01:10:43.180 So, um, 30% of people are having sex once a week or more, which is pretty low compared

01:10:48.440 to, it used to be like in the high sixties, maybe 70%.

01:10:51.100 So less than half.

01:10:52.780 And of those 30%, only 6% of the women are, um, orgasming.

01:10:56.980 That should be a problem.

01:10:58.120 Like if you're a dude, like most men that I know get aroused by their woman being aroused,

01:11:02.120 like no, I don't think like any mature guys, like this is all for me.

01:11:05.520 Like they want it to kind of be a mutual experience.

01:11:07.520 So 6%, we kind of have to figure out what's going on there because obviously there's, there

01:11:11.540 is an issue with arousal.

01:11:12.720 So they could be with someone who has all of these markers that you're saying are like,

01:11:15.960 um, paramount, which I would actually agree with.

01:11:17.820 Like you want status.

01:11:19.100 Most women want height, um, good looking, dependable.

01:11:22.360 Like in control of your emotions, you can have all of that, but the operating system

01:11:26.060 isn't working and they're still not getting to arousal or, or, or, or.

01:11:29.160 Well, it's cause a lot of women are hoes.

01:11:30.280 I'm going to be honest.

01:11:30.860 You've done those too much, too many past partners, like, you know, and this is like

01:11:35.280 past partners is indicative of an orgasm or ability to do it.

01:11:38.300 It's actually the opposite.

01:11:38.980 So if you're having sex with a casually, you're almost guaranteed not to have it.

01:11:42.940 Okay.

01:11:43.180 So, so this whole conversation too, um, is outside of evolution or whatever you want to call

01:11:48.720 it, evolutionary psychology, hundreds of thousands of years of human development.

01:11:51.880 This didn't exist.

01:11:53.900 Everything you're saying about what women want and how guys can pick them up didn't

01:11:56.600 exist.

01:11:57.420 Well, the way it used to work, you had a village of a hundred people and all of the children

01:12:01.680 of the village drew up with each other, going to the same church and going to the same school

01:12:06.000 and gotten, were dating at 16 and married at 18 and had kids at 20.

01:12:10.660 So there was no sleeping around.

01:12:13.120 There was no going to bars.

01:12:14.300 There was no, did they have an orgasm before or not?

01:12:16.520 It was literally Jimmy and Sally knew each other since they were five years old.

01:12:21.380 Their lives were identical.

01:12:23.180 The wants and desires were almost the exact same thing.

01:12:25.780 The women of their community said, here's what women do.

01:12:28.080 The men of their community said, here's what men do.

01:12:29.720 The men strive to be like the men.

01:12:31.180 The women expected the men to behave like the men they knew.

01:12:33.580 And the men expected the women they knew to behave like the women they knew.

01:12:35.960 And it was a lot easier now.

01:12:38.400 So when you look at it this way, you can see the starting points of a man and a woman

01:12:43.540 almost right next to each other in exactly the same way.

01:12:46.780 They lived on a farm.

01:12:47.860 They rarely went to the city.

01:12:49.000 And once a week, they'd go to church and they'd meet similar people and talk about their days.

01:12:52.240 And then this is not too dissimilar from the idea of arranged marriage.

01:12:55.740 Then society and population expanded largely with the advent of the petroleum economy and

01:13:00.520 industrialization.

01:13:01.940 And the population went from, I mean, it's nuts when you look at global population right before

01:13:07.220 the industrial revolution and it's this very flat line and then oil, boom, billions of

01:13:12.720 people.

01:13:13.440 Now, your average person is 20 years old and is trying to meet people he has nothing in

01:13:19.360 common with or she has nothing in common with.

01:13:21.500 And this creates conflict on attraction, you know, circumstances of ebbs and flows and attraction.

01:13:28.360 It is something humans did not experience up until the past 70 or 80 years.

01:13:32.780 And also, I mean, internet TV porn.

01:13:35.040 Like kids, you watch Slamfest.

01:13:37.620 Okay.

01:13:37.900 That's not how a girl has an orgasm.

01:13:40.500 Literally.

01:13:41.200 I mean, feminism as well.

01:13:42.480 Women have more options.

01:13:43.500 Like all this plays into it too.

01:13:44.840 Real quick.

01:13:45.600 Even in the fifties, it was very much like you were in high school together.

01:13:49.140 And then it was like Jimmy and Sally are, they're going steady.

01:13:52.720 Wow.

01:13:53.100 You know, it's crazy.

01:13:54.180 When you were dating a girl or a guy could be dating 10 different people.

01:13:58.180 What did that mean?

01:13:58.820 It literally meant they would hang out.

01:14:00.940 This is the crazy thing.

01:14:02.220 It's almost like we're a different species and we're not quite, but it's like we've entered

01:14:05.900 the realm of a new species with like with electricity and we're kind of.

01:14:10.400 It's the internet, bro.

01:14:11.720 It's the internet and it's how communities have disconnected.

01:14:15.380 Because this is what I was saying.

01:14:17.100 In high school, in like the narrative of the fifties, I wasn't alive in the fifties,

01:14:20.600 but the narrative and the tropes and our understanding was a girl and a guy would be dating and that

01:14:25.800 would mean that they went to the movies together one time, held hands and then went home.

01:14:29.840 And that was it.

01:14:30.780 Now it's like a dude hits a girl on Tinder, goes to her house and they bang day one.

01:14:35.420 And it's like, that was unheard of 60, 70 years ago.

01:14:38.440 In the nineties.

01:14:39.180 Oh, I would tell if we started dating a girl in the nineties when I was like 14, I would be

01:14:43.900 like, I'm going with her.

01:14:45.060 And she, my mom would be like, where are you going?

01:14:46.860 I'd be like, well, no, we're going out.

01:14:48.940 But that was the term of we're dating as we're going.

01:14:51.480 Now marriage is dating.

01:14:53.300 That's with, with no fault divorce, marriage is basically dating.

01:14:56.080 It's like, okay, we've been together for a few years and now we're going to just dissolve

01:14:59.760 the marriage.

01:15:00.200 It's like, what marriage is a life contract.

01:15:02.560 Not anymore.

01:15:03.260 Apparently.

01:15:03.660 What were you going to say, Candace?

01:15:05.060 Oh, we're talking about like traditional like snapshots throughout history though.

01:15:09.640 But if you go further back, it's like something like all civilizations, if you take them

01:15:13.660 from like the dawn of time, only 20% of them have ever been monogamous, right?

01:15:18.080 So that was, I was shocked to hear that that, I thought it was going to be higher, but it

01:15:23.540 was polyamory.

01:15:24.360 So one guy, multiple women, it was very, very rare, unless you were in like towards the Arctic

01:15:28.340 circle, that it would be one woman, many men.

01:15:31.080 Yeah.

01:15:31.280 So, but typically it's one guy, many females.

01:15:34.180 Occasionally it's one woman, many males.

01:15:36.000 And that typically tend, that was where there were like limited resources.

01:15:39.080 So she needed other guys to provide things.

01:15:40.880 Um, when people were, or when like early hominids were mating, what would happen is like they,

01:15:47.560 the female would go after like this alpha guy, get his seed, right?

01:15:51.280 Cause that's going to be the most likely to survive.

01:15:53.220 He, alphas tend to be like the worst parents because they have so much testosterone, right?

01:15:57.560 Like they just, they're more, um, they're more likely to like demonstrate violence and

01:16:01.600 not want to like stay and take care of like the little and the female.

01:16:05.140 So they tend to be more nomadic.

01:16:07.040 Like she would then couple up with like a more of a beta guy because that was better

01:16:10.440 for long-term relationships and caregiving.

01:16:12.700 So we still have that in our bodies.

01:16:15.120 And I think right now what women are doing, it's especially with having so many options

01:16:18.840 is we're not recognizing that wiring is still there.

01:16:21.200 So you have to be able to kind of evolve past that more primitive state and say, if I'm

01:16:25.820 being attracted to like someone that has dark triad or who isn't going to be there for

01:16:29.600 the goals that I have, which is like to start a family, um, long-term marriage, then maybe

01:16:33.740 don't go after that guy.

01:16:34.680 So instead we're kind of letting our biology make bad decisions for us.

01:16:38.300 And you have the father and the brother were so important and arranged marriages were a

01:16:40.820 thing because, you know, if you give women the ability to pick their own partners, you

01:16:43.960 guys make really bad mistakes early on when your value is at its highest.

01:16:46.860 And then by the time you're, you know, ready to settle down, your value has been depleted

01:16:51.140 to a guy that might want it.

01:16:52.200 That's why Virginia was such a big thing for so long.

01:16:54.240 Well, also though, it's kind of alluding to the fact that that didn't have issues as well,

01:16:58.580 because there was a lot more violence against women back then too, with arranged marriages

01:17:02.040 and before divorce was a thing and you had master and head, um, laws that up until the

01:17:06.820 seventies, like rape wasn't a thing as long as you were married to your rapist, right?

01:17:11.000 Like that's not okay.

01:17:11.820 So we're pretending that like as long as like women are, I mean, sex is a duty for a woman

01:17:16.900 to her man.

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01:18:44.560 It is a duty, but does any man want to have sex with someone who doesn't want to have,

01:18:50.160 like that, like how do you have forceful sex with someone and still want to do that?

01:18:53.880 Yeah, I mean, we could definitely say that's messed up, but I think that's important to

01:18:56.940 understand that like, right, women don't really have to align with their duties as a wife,

01:19:01.760 but men almost always have to align with their duties.

01:19:03.660 I think both should.

01:19:04.900 Yeah, for sure.

01:19:05.640 But what I'm saying is that like, okay, so the problem is that like with feminism and other

01:19:10.160 things is like women want the privileges and the benefits of chivalry and like the security

01:19:15.260 of marriage and the sanctity of that, but they don't want to hold up their end of the bargain

01:19:18.580 versus like for men, right?

01:19:20.560 Like we have to do what we're supposed to do.

01:19:23.180 And if we don't, we deal with consequences for it.

01:19:25.220 You know, women initiate most breakups, they initiate most divorces, et cetera.

01:19:28.440 So, you know, if I'd say, you know what, I don't feel like paying the bills anymore.

01:19:31.720 Like you would look at me like I'm crazy, but like when women say, well, I don't want

01:19:34.140 to fuck my husband anymore, it's completely socially acceptable, right?

01:19:37.120 So, and this is a big reason actually why I tell guys like marriage nowadays with the

01:19:40.960 marriage courts involved and getting married through the state isn't in your best interest

01:19:43.920 because you don't have leverage anymore and we don't have leverage over women.

01:19:47.880 They behave very poorly, if I'm going to be honest.

01:19:50.380 What's the motivation in marriage?

01:19:52.880 For men or women?

01:19:54.060 For a man.

01:19:54.640 I mean, honestly, dude, I mean, in today's day and age, you really don't get any real

01:20:00.340 benefit besides the title.

01:20:01.740 You can get everything through a regular relationship.

01:20:03.460 Now, again, I think you can marry religiously and I think that's great because having 200

01:20:08.080 wedlocks L, but to get the state involved, that's where I run into issues.

01:20:12.000 I do agree.

01:20:12.960 I recently got married.

01:20:14.060 It's for family.

01:20:15.140 It's for moral tradition.

01:20:16.180 Of course.

01:20:16.320 It's for raising strong, honorable individuals.

01:20:20.100 I told Allison.

01:20:21.400 Better for the kids.

01:20:22.400 Absolutely.

01:20:22.940 And that's what it's all about.

01:20:24.000 So I completely agree that the courts are broken.

01:20:26.980 No-fault divorce is broken.

01:20:28.140 But I didn't get married for myself.

01:20:30.260 I did it for my child who's going to be here very soon.

01:20:32.220 Yeah.

01:20:32.520 Because I want them to grow up with strong moral tradition and understanding that there

01:20:35.680 is duty and responsibility.

01:20:37.800 Agreed.

01:20:38.200 And that's why I tell guys, if you're going to get married, do it religiously.

01:20:40.920 Don't necessarily do it with the state or try to avoid the state because the nuclear

01:20:44.180 family with married parents is going to be significantly better.

01:20:47.320 But what I'm trying to illustrate here is that what I've realized with women is there's more

01:20:51.700 social acceptance for them breaching the contract than there is for men.

01:20:56.040 So...

01:20:56.320 Oh, yeah.

01:20:56.660 Absolutely.

01:20:57.220 You know, that's my...

01:20:58.280 Yeah.

01:20:58.880 Well, it depends on like what parts are being breached.

01:21:01.160 If we're talking about sex, that's something that's like so intimate and then that will

01:21:04.320 affect the relationship.

01:21:05.460 Like if you force...

01:21:06.160 Well, most marriages are sexless.

01:21:07.560 Right.

01:21:07.800 And I don't think that's healthy.

01:21:08.840 I don't think that's okay.

01:21:09.540 Like why are you in a relationship then?

01:21:10.780 So I think a lot of women...

01:21:11.820 Well, I think that's the norm because women aren't really held to like a standard on their

01:21:16.580 side when it comes to marriage obligations.

01:21:18.240 Yeah.

01:21:18.540 Yeah.

01:21:18.900 It's confusing because I've heard it phrased kind of similarly where like a woman is tricking

01:21:24.760 a man into monogamy, but really it's celibacy.

01:21:27.300 Right.

01:21:27.460 So I'm like promising you monogamy.

01:21:29.040 But then once we become in that monogamous relationship, now you get like marital deathbed

01:21:32.700 and then what's the point?

01:21:34.880 Yeah.

01:21:35.320 Because I mean, I don't want to sound like an asshole, but like, you know, a woman's

01:21:38.360 main agency is her sexuality.

01:21:39.860 So if she doesn't give you that, then like...

01:21:41.440 It shouldn't be weaponized.

01:21:42.540 I firmly...

01:21:43.280 Like I hate when I see women of like, you don't do this.

01:21:45.660 I'm not having sex with you.

01:21:46.700 I don't think that that's healthy.

01:21:47.560 They leverage sex for compliance.

01:21:48.980 Right.

01:21:49.320 I don't think that's okay.

01:21:50.200 But I'm saying like if a woman isn't having sex because like her body is telling her not

01:21:54.500 to, like there's like some kind of reaction that she's getting.

01:21:56.900 She's like, it's not working.

01:21:58.320 Like nothing is getting lubricated.

01:21:59.620 There's no arousal.

01:22:00.660 She doesn't feel safe.

01:22:01.520 Then you have to look at like bigger issues within that relationship.

01:22:04.480 So like...

01:22:04.780 She got married to him.

01:22:05.500 So safety should be...

01:22:06.780 Well, maybe, but people change too over time.

01:22:08.960 So it comes back to like not doing your duty.

01:22:10.800 So if you do have a man that's like not showing up, not following through, not doing his end

01:22:14.700 in whatever way that was agreed upon within that relationship, her body is going to say

01:22:18.760 like unsafe, unpredictable, unreliable.

01:22:21.040 You know, I think...

01:22:22.100 There's only one way to deal with that though.

01:22:24.060 Force.

01:22:24.680 No, no, no.

01:22:25.400 Not...

01:22:26.000 Well, of course.

01:22:27.000 I mean, that's...

01:22:27.800 Yeah, that's not the way I was going to say.

01:22:29.840 This is why it's so important for men to like stay attractive and have other options.

01:22:34.900 Because women only respond favorably to men that have other options that can replace her.

01:22:38.880 Women behave the best when you can leave them.

01:22:40.840 I think we have a problem with dishonor.

01:22:44.320 And I don't know.

01:22:46.560 But a lot of the stuff that I hear, while I do agree and understand what you're saying,

01:22:51.300 I hear a lot of guys who say things like men are disposable, and it's true from an evolutionary

01:22:58.320 standpoint.

01:22:59.500 But that doesn't mean...

01:23:00.660 Like, it's crazy to me that there are guys who are very, very selfish.

01:23:03.600 Like, I should get what I want out of everything.

01:23:06.220 And it's like...

01:23:07.180 I don't know.

01:23:08.160 The way I view society is I do like the chivalry.

01:23:11.100 I like the hero charging into battle, sacrificing himself for the greater good, for building something

01:23:15.940 brilliant, planting trees whose shade he knows he will never sit beneath.

01:23:19.960 And that is something that men need to accept.

01:23:22.460 If you were a guy, life will be harder in a lot of ways.

01:23:26.320 It's not going to be fair to you.

01:23:27.700 You will be treated as disposable garbage.

01:23:29.840 You will be insulted.

01:23:30.920 And that is part of a man being transformed from a wad of cookie dough into being carved

01:23:35.700 out of stone.

01:23:36.840 So all these guys out there that are like, it's not fair.

01:23:40.060 It's not fair.

01:23:40.360 Stop being a weak little bitch.

01:23:41.560 Life's never going to be fair to you.

01:23:42.580 It's going to treat you like crap.

01:23:43.500 It's going to throw you in the mud and spit in your face.

01:23:45.460 And then you have to stand up and say, that's what being a guy is.

01:23:48.540 Yeah.

01:23:48.640 And I think if a guy does, you know, traverse these obstacles, that their woman needs to

01:23:54.540 follow their lead and be completely submissive.

01:23:56.800 And, you know, this is why I'm so big on like male leadership.

01:23:59.560 Like, I don't think, I think anything where women are in the lead, it leads to problems.

01:24:04.720 It's very problematic.

01:24:06.280 And, you know.

01:24:06.740 They started more wars.

01:24:07.140 Is that true?

01:24:08.320 What, women?

01:24:08.880 I heard that, that women, female leaders have started more wars than men.

01:24:11.960 Let me ask you.

01:24:12.520 Yeah.

01:24:12.800 So, yeah, I've heard that stat too.

01:24:14.280 But I think the biggest thing is when it comes to relationships, because too many guys are

01:24:17.840 like, okay with letting their wife or their girlfriend run things.

01:24:20.520 And, you know, that's like a Trojan horse to the end of the relationship because they're

01:24:23.780 told you and your woman are equal or equal partnerships.

01:24:26.100 And that just sounds good on paper, but it doesn't work.

01:24:28.900 Yeah.

01:24:29.080 Genghis Khan set his wife to be the administrator of the Capitol when he was on campaign.

01:24:34.700 Like she was a brilliant administrator.

01:24:36.060 And I think one of the values of marriage through the legal system is you get to share

01:24:39.980 money and you can give her all your money to, to administrate.

01:24:43.420 I think that's bad.

01:24:44.200 So it says actually.

01:24:45.300 It takes a load off if you're a businessman.

01:24:47.580 So it's, this is interesting.

01:24:49.260 Historically, through all of human history, men have started more wars.

01:24:52.460 Why?

01:24:52.820 There's more male leaders.

01:24:54.900 However, in modern society, it's actually comparable.

01:24:59.440 Women and men start wars at nearly the same rates.

01:25:01.840 So that's interesting.

01:25:02.860 Yeah.

01:25:03.440 Yeah.

01:25:03.800 I don't know.

01:25:04.460 I, I see your perspective, but I think, um, you know, this is, I'm a big proponent

01:25:07.900 of like separate bank accounts.

01:25:09.960 Um, your woman not having access to your money, um, because I think it could just be problematic.

01:25:14.920 But, uh, I, what I've realized is this, when it comes to marriage and dealing with women

01:25:19.460 nowadays, you got to come at it almost from like a defensive standpoint where if she were

01:25:24.620 to leave you or divorce you or whatever, you're mitigating as much risk and damage as possible

01:25:30.100 because the problem is that the family courts and the marriage system that we have

01:25:34.320 nowadays incentivizes women to leave you, um, and they get rewarded for it.

01:25:38.520 So I'm like, damn, if you're going to get in a business contract with someone that's

01:25:41.280 incentivized to break it, like that's not good on your end.

01:25:43.500 So you need to hedge your bets and have things in place where you protect your assets.

01:25:47.260 This matter.

01:25:47.880 This, this one matters for a Western context from 1480 to 1913.

01:25:52.660 European Queens were 27% more likely to engage in military conflict than Kings.

01:25:58.000 Elizabeth.

01:25:58.500 How much of it is?

01:25:59.620 Now, women suck as leaders too.

01:26:01.260 Let's go.

01:26:01.840 I knew it.

01:26:02.320 She was a beast.

01:26:03.260 She was a beast.

01:26:04.320 Yeah.

01:26:04.340 She was an animal.

01:26:05.440 Cause women always say women ran the world.

01:26:07.060 It would be better.

01:26:07.640 And I'm like, not the European ones, I guess.

01:26:09.100 I guess not.

01:26:09.760 Yeah.

01:26:09.920 Um, when it comes to like women upholding their, their aspect of the social contract,

01:26:15.220 I feel like if a man follows through on his word and makes her come like at least once

01:26:21.680 a week, you ever have an unforgettable orgasm?

01:26:24.460 I don't know if you guys, where it's like, you still remember it like that you should be

01:26:27.180 doing to your wife weekly and she will always be there.

01:26:31.200 Well, that's assuming like she wants to have sex in the first place though, which I think

01:26:34.040 is the biggest problem is that like women just like, I don't feel it anymore.

01:26:37.320 You know what I mean?

01:26:38.020 And, and, and this is what I mean when I say like, well, this is attraction is backwards.

01:26:41.460 Like the things that they're aroused by that they actually want, like are almost detrimental

01:26:46.760 to the long, long-term security.

01:26:48.200 This is why like, it's so important for the guy to just be attractive, keep his sexual market

01:26:53.620 value high and then have the potential to cheat on her.

01:26:55.900 Am I saying go out and smash a bunch of chicks?

01:26:57.940 No, but you definitely need to be capable of doing it because women only respond favorably

01:27:01.980 to men that can replace them.

01:27:04.040 I've heard this.

01:27:04.980 So I'm interested how Candace views it.

01:27:06.440 Like there, there, there's a, there's like a meme and it's that women, women want to

01:27:10.580 date a man who they feel could leave them at any moment for any woman.

01:27:16.400 And they want a man who is nice to them and, but they know he doesn't have to be, you know

01:27:21.600 what I mean?

01:27:22.220 No, I would agree with all of that.

01:27:23.600 And going back to, so I hate to say red pill, cause I think it's more black pill when you

01:27:28.200 have like these nihilistic, like really angry dudes online.

01:27:30.680 Like red pill to me seems like you're based in reality, right?

01:27:33.140 You're not so emotionally charged, but, um, it's this idea that they're not going to be

01:27:36.900 respectful to women anymore.

01:27:38.180 They're not going to be chivalrous because of feminism.

01:27:40.060 So like you want to be treated, you want to be treated equally than I'm going to treat

01:27:43.540 you like a dude instead of like recognizing that we are vastly different creatures.

01:27:47.220 So it's almost weird.

01:27:48.260 Cause it's like this horseshoe thing where we're going into liberal liberalism.

01:27:51.600 We're like, there's no difference between men and women.

01:27:53.240 Like, no, there is, there are fundamental differences.

01:27:55.660 And then if you kind of double down and go into the leadership position that a lot of these

01:27:59.060 guys are saying, if you're a leader, you're not going to be influenced by like, I hate

01:28:02.840 to say the word, but like a subordinate or a submissive or someone that like you're supposed

01:28:06.100 to be leading.

01:28:06.700 You're going to be who you are regardless of that influence.

01:28:09.080 So if you have these principles that are, I'm going to open the door, I'm going to be

01:28:13.940 respectful.

01:28:14.540 I'm going to always operate as my highest self, regardless of the other outside influences,

01:28:19.000 because those are my principles.

01:28:20.520 It, I think what I see a lot now is like men just like totally giving up, taking their ball,

01:28:25.560 going home and saying like, I don't want to have values or principles anymore because like women

01:28:28.960 suck, not all women suck.

01:28:30.640 There are plenty that do, and not all guys are great and principled either.

01:28:33.980 So it's like, be the best version of yourself, the strongest version of yourself, be principled

01:28:37.820 in your actions, regardless of like quote feminism.

01:28:40.760 Yeah.

01:28:41.120 I mean, I think for a lot of guys, they're looking at it like the juice just isn't worth the

01:28:44.920 squeeze.

01:28:45.260 I have to work 10 times harder to get a girl that's more ran through that isn't going to

01:28:49.340 respect me, doesn't respect masculinity in general.

01:28:51.180 So like for a lot of guys, that's why the passport movement is like blowing up because guys

01:28:55.340 are like American women suck, which I'll be honest, they do.

01:28:57.940 Um, so I don't blame them for going to Columbia or these other countries where they have more

01:29:01.460 traditional women because guys have to work significantly harder for a woman that's a

01:29:05.580 slut to obey them.

01:29:06.800 I mean, I find it crazy how Juan can come in here from Mexico, right?

01:29:10.800 Have no money, broke with like three kids and his Mexican wife is more submissive to him

01:29:15.280 than a man that has millions and has his Americanized wife in the household that's being a raging

01:29:19.880 bitch.

01:29:20.300 And again, you know, I think there's problems on the male side too, because men don't understand

01:29:24.220 that they have a masculine burner performance to be that guy.

01:29:26.840 But if you are that guy and you have your stuff together, simply put, most women don't qualify

01:29:31.480 for marriage.

01:29:32.320 Well, do you think that most men are showing up that way?

01:29:34.740 Or do you think it's probably equal that in like both sexes you have underperformance

01:29:38.400 on both ends?

01:29:39.240 Yeah, no, absolutely.

01:29:40.000 I mean, both the genders have their faults for men.

01:29:41.880 It's underperforming and it's for, for women.

01:29:43.860 They're just hoes.

01:29:44.620 So, um, so if a guy does perform and get to that point, it doesn't make sense for him to,

01:29:49.860 to wife any of these girls up because most women want to get married, but they don't want

01:29:53.080 to necessarily be wives.

01:29:54.420 So it's, it's tough.

01:29:55.940 It sucks on both ends, but I do think long-term, this is only going to hurt women because we

01:29:59.980 know women are social creatures.

01:30:01.240 They get far more, um, fulfillment from being around the people they love versus for men

01:30:05.780 we're defined by our status.

01:30:06.780 And we can always, you know, find a woman later on in life for women.

01:30:09.820 They have a finite amount of time to get the guy and consolidate.

01:30:12.100 So I think this hurts women more.

01:30:13.640 You can, you can be like Chelsea Handler where she made a video bragging about how she wakes

01:30:16.820 up, what if she does drugs and then masturbates?

01:30:19.620 Yeah.

01:30:19.860 Yeah.

01:30:20.060 Cope.

01:30:21.000 Like insane levels of cope.

01:30:22.980 And, and I, and I would argue that's where so many women are headed because the standards,

01:30:27.560 it's simply put their high mileage Mercedes charging $150,000 as brand new sticker price

01:30:33.960 when guys can go ahead and get the same car and rent it out for, for, you know, less.

01:30:38.460 That's also not true though too, because you're talking about like an extreme version of men,

01:30:42.300 like some of like hyper successful, like top 5% for them, that will always be true.

01:30:46.920 Like you could have Hugh Hefner at 90 years old and he's going to still be able to pull

01:30:49.840 any woman that he wants.

01:30:51.380 Right.

01:30:51.820 That's true for like such a small amount of men for the majority of men.

01:30:55.300 Like we look at the obesity numbers in the States.

01:30:57.420 It's like 70 or 80% of people are clinically obese.

01:31:00.240 Those guys are not going to be pulling a college age girl.

01:31:02.760 There are 20 something that's like a smoke show.

01:31:04.720 Right.

01:31:05.200 So there's, unless he is a high performer or has status.

01:31:09.180 So I'm saying for a majority of men though, they don't have that.

01:31:12.180 So we look at like these hyper sex or hyper successful men and we say like, that's the

01:31:16.640 model.

01:31:17.180 They'll be fine because like you can still have women because they, of the biological

01:31:20.620 clock.

01:31:21.080 That's not true for most men.

01:31:22.860 It's just not.

01:31:23.860 There's a, uh, well, if they do the work, it is true.

01:31:26.020 But I think the biggest point here is that a majority of women are looking for that guy.

01:31:30.340 So there's, there's a, yeah, I agree.

01:31:31.920 There's a great documentary that I referenced quite a bit.

01:31:34.360 The science of sex where they brought, uh, a bunch of men into a room and a bunch of

01:31:39.520 women to a room, showed them pictures and had them write them on a scale of one to 10.

01:31:43.360 I think it was like a hundred men and a hundred women rated images of men and women on a scale

01:31:46.440 of one to 10.

01:31:47.520 Your obvious guy, he's tall, tall, dark and handsome flannel shirt, strong looking, got

01:31:54.140 rated a nine.

01:31:54.700 Then there was this guy who was like short, chubby, thinning hair and a pasty skin.

01:32:00.620 And he got rated a four.

01:32:01.860 They went onto the streets and they showed random people, the image of the guy.

01:32:06.000 And they said, how would you rate the guy?

01:32:07.120 Sure enough, he got an eight, nine or a 10.

01:32:09.320 They showed the chubby little guy and said how sure enough he got rated like a three,

01:32:12.720 four or five.

01:32:13.800 Then they added a bio to the, yeah.

01:32:17.260 And the tall, dark, handsome guy was a theater manager who made $30,000 a year.

01:32:20.820 And the chubby short guy was a software developer who made $600,000 a year.

01:32:25.260 And guess what happened?

01:32:25.940 They both became sevens.

01:32:27.360 Yep.

01:32:27.920 And that's with men, right?

01:32:29.720 It's true though.

01:32:30.220 We're able to increase our sexual market value from our success.

01:32:34.760 But the thing is-

01:32:35.420 It's ice up, you know what I mean?

01:32:36.080 Yeah.

01:32:36.460 With us, our value is determined by meritocracy, which a lot of times takes time versus for

01:32:41.700 women, their value is given up front.

01:32:43.220 So with what you were saying as far as only a small percentage of the men have what the women

01:32:49.060 want.

01:32:49.280 Yeah.

01:32:49.600 And that puts women in a bad situation because a majority of women are looking for the same

01:32:55.060 guy.

01:32:55.380 And here's the other scary part.

01:32:57.300 We do this thing on our show called the delusion calculator, right?

01:33:00.680 And it accounts for men from the U.S. Census Bureau, National Health Survey, CDC, et cetera.

01:33:05.460 It's the most accurate assessment of men in the United States.

01:33:08.480 And when we ask them, okay, how much do you want your guy to make?

01:33:10.780 They always say six figures.

01:33:11.860 How tall do you want to be?

01:33:12.780 Six foot tall.

01:33:13.680 What race?

01:33:14.760 White or black, right?

01:33:16.420 How many ebbs?

01:33:16.960 Yeah, how many, yeah, like education level, et cetera.

01:33:19.740 And it's incredible, dude.

01:33:21.480 Even regular girls, when they say this is what I want, the guy always falls into one percentile.

01:33:26.840 So what it comes down to is like there's more beautiful women than attractive men who has

01:33:30.940 the leverage, the higher status men do.

01:33:32.760 And that puts women in a bad predicament because now they can't find their guy.

01:33:37.020 You know, my response to all of this is, yup, too bad.

01:33:40.640 Have a nice day.

01:33:41.840 I'm not saying don't learn.

01:33:43.400 I'm not saying don't improve yourself.

01:33:44.500 I'm saying that like human society is built upon men being better than other men.

01:33:49.920 And so guys need to recognize one simple thing.

01:33:52.720 Every day you wake up, you need to look around you and figure out how you can be better than

01:33:57.380 you were yesterday.

01:33:58.540 That's the most important thing.

01:33:59.600 But here's the thing.

01:34:00.200 I think for men, they're keenly aware of that, whether consciously or subconsciously,

01:34:03.840 because as a man, right, if you're a loser, reality reminds you're a loser.

01:34:07.260 Women don't respect you.

01:34:08.480 No one wants to be around you.

01:34:09.760 People make fun of you, et cetera.

01:34:10.760 Like you are constantly reminded you're mediocre as a man, right?

01:34:13.440 Bullying is a rite of passage.

01:34:14.720 But for women, like they can be useless to society, whatever.

01:34:19.580 They get lied to all day.

01:34:20.460 So no one ever tells women the truth.

01:34:21.980 And then here's the other crazy thing, too.

01:34:23.800 When we show this calculator, right, and it gets like cat bags, they get a score of five

01:34:27.140 out of five cat bags if it's like in the one percentile, like it'll show less than

01:34:31.580 one percent and they'll look at that number and they'll literally say, he's out there.

01:34:35.440 I'm going to find him.

01:34:36.080 I'm going to manifest it.

01:34:37.100 And this is the crazy difference I've realized between men and women.

01:34:40.960 Like they will not change their views or their standards.

01:34:44.500 They're like, he's out there for me.

01:34:45.660 I'm like, why?

01:34:46.840 I'm going to just manifest it because I'm a Capricorn.

01:34:48.640 And I'm like, holy crap.

01:34:50.120 Like, this is where we are.

01:34:51.580 The attraction between men and women is a fascinating graph because for men, it's a

01:34:58.520 bell curve.

01:34:58.820 For women, it's a parabolic curve.

01:35:01.400 So like guys, when they rate women, it's a standard bell curve.

01:35:05.780 Women, it goes like that.

01:35:07.680 So 80% of men are unattractive to women based on the research.

01:35:11.920 And for men, it's a standard deviation.

01:35:13.940 It's a standard average.

01:35:15.240 Well, this goes back to women don't know what they're talking about, right?

01:35:17.760 So this is probably something that you're going to agree with.

01:35:19.940 So these women are self-reporting.

01:35:21.840 These are the things that I'm attracted to.

01:35:23.520 And this is what I'm looking for in a partner.

01:35:24.920 Most of the time, these women have no idea that it's actually so off the mark.

01:35:29.600 And I think that we've kind of like digitized and like gamified dating and just partnership

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01:37:03.820 There's a huge element of attraction that we're missing out on, right?

01:37:06.940 So all you see is like this one shitty picture and whether or not you think that person's going

01:37:11.280 to like be a good match for you instead of exchanging like energy and pheromones that

01:37:15.420 we know are like, there's like this weird X factor that comes to like, I have no idea

01:37:18.580 why I'm attracted to this person, but I am.

01:37:20.640 They've done like that t-shirt test, right?

01:37:22.580 Like, I don't know if you guys are familiar with the t-shirt test, right?

01:37:24.980 They responded favorably to a guy that had a certain order.

01:37:28.400 Right, yeah.

01:37:28.740 And they were discussed, so they had dudes run at a treadmill and then they put their

01:37:33.440 shirts in a jar and then had women smell them without knowing what it was.

01:37:36.880 And if they were related, it smelled bad.

01:37:38.660 Yeah, like the most, women always sought like the most biodiverse candidate essentially.

01:37:42.880 So if like the genetics were too similar, like she would kind of be repulsed by that.

01:37:47.220 So all of this is like really important when it comes to seeking a mate.

01:37:50.100 So if you're asking like, here's this survey, what do you want?

01:37:52.300 It's almost like if you go to one of those like teddy bear shops and you're like making

01:37:55.900 the perfect teddy bear, like of course you're going to want to pick like all the best things

01:37:59.020 for it.

01:37:59.980 But the scary part is they're completely unaware how rare the guy is.

01:38:03.300 Right.

01:38:03.600 And because they tend to use their own anecdotal experiences like, well, I've been around so

01:38:08.420 many millionaires because like I'm hot.

01:38:10.100 So like there's plenty of them and they really do think that because what ends up happening

01:38:13.460 with like, you know, mildly attracted to very attractive women is they go to these major

01:38:16.540 cities, Miami, New York, LA, et cetera.

01:38:18.500 There's an abundance of these successful men and they're like, I'm around these guys

01:38:21.460 all the time because I get invited on yachts and they don't understand that this is still

01:38:24.500 a minority of men.

01:38:25.220 But this goes to show what I've said before, 90% plus of men are invisible to women.

01:38:29.820 Well, so again, like I think there, a lot of women are saying that they want these things,

01:38:33.660 but when they actually step out into the real world, they're probably finding guys that

01:38:36.960 are missing most of the things that they said that they wanted, like, and they are actually

01:38:40.180 genuinely attracted to them.

01:38:41.480 So again, I think like this is the one like part where I'll agree, like women don't know

01:38:46.080 what they want and they're saying something totally different.

01:38:48.620 And then when it actually comes to coupling up, they're going to find someone that they're

01:38:51.400 genuinely attracted to so that he's not going to have to like make those 1% marks for them

01:38:57.280 to like be a pair.

01:38:58.340 Yeah.

01:38:58.640 But okay, let's say he doesn't have the money, but he's extremely good looking.

01:39:01.680 Like he's got to, the point is, is that he has to have something right to be able to get

01:39:05.440 her.

01:39:05.620 If you're deficient, okay, let's say you're a brokey, you don't got money, but you're extremely

01:39:10.320 handsome and tall.

01:39:11.660 Well, some women will deal with that for a period of time, right?

01:39:15.080 Or let's say you have a lot of money, but you're ugly and weird.

01:39:17.440 Some women will deal with that for a period of time.

01:39:19.180 But if you're deficient, right?

01:39:20.480 If you, let's say you've got one amplifier that's really good and you rely on that, cool,

01:39:24.200 but you're going to be deficient somewhere else.

01:39:25.580 And that's going to come back to bite you in the ass.

01:39:27.180 You're a good looking guy with no money.

01:39:29.200 It's going to be tough for you to keep a girl long-term.

01:39:31.060 You're going to lose your chick to some simp.

01:39:32.880 Let's say you're a good, you're a guy that has a lot of money, but you're ugly.

01:39:35.880 You're probably not going to get laid and she might cheat on you.

01:39:38.080 So like, it's very important for guys.

01:39:40.320 If you want to get the best of your woman, you've got to have everything, which is very

01:39:43.700 difficult to find.

01:39:44.520 Sometimes a dude will make a girl laugh and he'll be okay looking and like, but he's got

01:39:50.320 potential.

01:39:51.160 She sees the humor in him and is like, you could be something.

01:39:54.000 And so she'll go with them and she'll support him, especially for young people.

01:39:57.900 You're dating for potential a lot of times.

01:40:00.460 It depends.

01:40:01.380 I mean, it's always, what I've realized is like the hotter the girl, the more selective

01:40:05.860 she is and the more, you know, she's, she, for some odd reason, these

01:40:10.260 hot girls all date the same small percentage of guys.

01:40:12.320 Like it depends on, on the girl.

01:40:13.960 But like, I think the, the main takeaway here is that, um, there just simply aren't

01:40:18.280 enough mates for the women based on their standards.

01:40:21.640 You know, Elon has 12 kids on paper that we know of.

01:40:26.940 So Myron, you said it, the, it's a problem that all the women tend towards this top 0.1%.

01:40:33.500 And then Candace, you kind of said, yeah, it is a problem.

01:40:35.720 There's not enough of them indicating that if there were, that there should be more

01:40:39.560 successful or the solution to the problem might be if there were more men that were

01:40:43.300 in that upper bracket, that it became like the top 3% of men or top 9% of men.

01:40:48.080 And is there like a middle ground here where women don't really have to, maybe they need

01:40:52.120 to loosen their standards a little, let go of the resume before they go out there.

01:40:55.640 Yeah.

01:40:55.920 Yeah.

01:40:56.220 I think so.

01:40:56.800 It's like, it's like if you have a birth plan, right?

01:40:58.820 Like there's these neurotic women that before having a child, they have like this three

01:41:02.260 page birth plan and it's going to, it's got to like hit all of these marks.

01:41:05.840 You're like, once you get out there, like all it is, you are throwing everything to the

01:41:09.740 wind and you just have to be present.

01:41:11.120 I think it's the same thing with dating.

01:41:12.440 If you're going out there with like this checklist, how that's not romantic, that's

01:41:16.060 not sexy.

01:41:16.820 That's not how you find like a long-term partnership at all.

01:41:19.120 I think that's kind of delusional.

01:41:20.500 So I think the solution, it's like, there's going to be a lot of elements.

01:41:23.600 One is like men do need to self-improve.

01:41:25.380 They constantly need to be improving like themselves and their station.

01:41:28.820 In whatever capacity that they can.

01:41:30.400 It's also women to kind of get a grip and saying like, what the fuck does six foot matter?

01:41:33.900 Like, why is that something that you're capping off at six foot?

01:41:36.500 That's insane.

01:41:37.000 Because if you're going to do that, then guys should have like a weight limit.

01:41:39.900 So like, if you kind of look at both of that, both of those things, it's, it's weird.

01:41:44.120 How about, how about we just pass a law?

01:41:47.640 Here's a solution.

01:41:48.740 The U S can just pass a law that says women aren't allowed to get paid more than $50,000

01:41:52.000 a year.

01:41:52.420 Boom.

01:41:52.640 Problem solved.

01:41:53.900 You think that's a solution?

01:41:55.540 Like you really think that's a solution?

01:41:56.820 No, I'm always the politician.

01:41:57.340 Oh, I was kidding.

01:41:59.420 The, the, the argument largely, there was this really funny article in the New York

01:42:01.980 Post.

01:42:02.700 Actually, let me try and find it.

01:42:04.280 Well, I mean, I, you know, that, that might be a viable option, man.

01:42:07.560 Like a lot of women, the feminism is really ruined things for a lot of women, man, is

01:42:11.500 because they pursue a career instead of a family and it just, their priorities are mixed

01:42:15.260 up.

01:42:15.560 I was like, look at this, look at this story from 2019.

01:42:17.180 I remember when the story dropped and I did a, I recorded a segment on it.

01:42:21.320 Women are struggling to find men who make as much money as they do.

01:42:24.500 Is this the Cornell study?

01:42:25.100 Uh, no, this is, they interviewed women.

01:42:27.520 Okay.

01:42:27.900 And Cornell and, uh, right up the top.

01:42:29.320 It's really fascinating.

01:42:29.760 We talked about this.

01:42:30.960 Uh, the first time we ever came on, this is a good story.

01:42:32.720 Yeah.

01:42:32.880 So what's fascinating here is like, I tried to break it down.

01:42:36.040 This is, this is six years ago, right?

01:42:37.520 This 38 year old woman, she's like a nurse or whatever, nurse practitioner.

01:42:40.440 And she said that, uh, she's not looking to like meet the craziest guy in the world or

01:42:44.780 the best guy.

01:42:45.320 She just wants a guy who's like on her level.

01:42:47.180 And, and my point was really simple.

01:42:48.640 I'm like, lady, with all due respect, a 38 year old man who's making $50,000 a year

01:42:53.940 can get a 24 year old woman.

01:42:55.860 He doesn't need to settle for a 38 year old woman and he's not attracted to a 38 year old

01:42:58.980 woman.

01:42:59.620 So they're wondering why.

01:43:01.340 And it's patent.

01:43:02.320 It's, it's, it's really obvious to anybody who studies dating and human coupling.

01:43:06.660 So it's kind of funny that from this feminist perspective written by a woman, they're like,

01:43:11.700 why can't women find men their own age?

01:43:13.440 I don't think most 54 year old men are getting a 20 year old again.

01:43:16.260 Cause most 38.

01:43:17.580 Oh, well you were the, uh, example you were saying like, uh, I'm sorry.

01:43:21.560 A 38 year old woman wants to find a 38 year old man, but who makes 50 grand a year?

01:43:26.360 Well, I think 30 year old, 38 year old man who makes 50 grand a year is going to go date

01:43:28.800 a 30 year old woman.

01:43:29.960 Yeah.

01:43:30.260 30, maybe not in like the twenties.

01:43:32.120 You'll get 20.

01:43:32.700 The typical age gap is about five to eight years.

01:43:34.980 The most successful, successful relationships are about five years.

01:43:38.720 Yes.

01:43:38.960 There are always outliers and there are huge age gaps.

01:43:41.400 Three of my girlfriends have like a 20 plus age gap.

01:43:43.860 I think the bigger problem here is like, he's, he's saying these feminists are writing these

01:43:46.720 articles trying to like figure out why, why, why can't I find a guy?

01:43:49.340 And this goes back to what I said earlier at the top of the show, men have to understand

01:43:53.980 women to attract them.

01:43:55.020 Women don't have to understand men to attract them.

01:43:56.920 I can't tell you how many times I bring women on the show and I'm like, well, give me something

01:44:00.880 that's redeeming about you.

01:44:02.260 Oh, I make money.

01:44:03.060 I'm successful.

01:44:03.660 I'm a strong and independent woman.

01:44:05.080 And I'm like, you don't give a shit about that.

01:44:07.540 Men give zero care about a woman's ability to provision and provide.

01:44:10.960 As a matter of fact, the more money he makes, the less he cares about it.

01:44:13.740 Yeah.

01:44:13.840 It's just absolutely fast.

01:44:15.360 Again, again, they have no clue with this study.

01:44:17.280 It's absolutely fascinating that women were like, we have just discovered the strange phenomenon

01:44:21.240 and every single guy everywhere is like, uh, okay.

01:44:24.860 But it goes, it goes to what I'm saying.

01:44:26.200 You're describing daily dating.

01:44:26.760 Like, like women, like it's not until they get older later in life.

01:44:31.280 They don't really, they don't know what men want.

01:44:32.920 This is why you've got a feminist over here saying like, I'm 38 and make 150K per year.

01:44:36.440 Why can't I find a guy?

01:44:37.460 Because they're using the male metric of success on men and men don't want to date themselves.

01:44:42.300 They want to date a younger, more attractive woman.

01:44:44.260 The things we look for in women have nothing to do with your career, but we've lied to women

01:44:48.980 and told them, get a career that's going to help you find a guy.

01:44:51.340 Not really.

01:44:52.020 It actually will set you back.

01:44:53.500 Why a woman?

01:44:54.200 The filter too is kind of screwed up though too, because I think a lot of women just associate

01:44:57.980 like providing financially.

01:45:00.040 Like if you can't provide a paycheck, you're kind of useless.

01:45:02.760 And I don't subscribe to that.

01:45:04.380 I've got two little boys.

01:45:05.820 I don't want them to think like their only worth is like how much money they bring in.

01:45:09.240 So if she's like, I'm automatically filtering any man that doesn't make as much as me,

01:45:13.640 if she's making a lot of money.

01:45:15.080 But that's the reality though.

01:45:16.460 Like you're as a man, like, unfortunately, like that is the main metric you're judged

01:45:20.320 by.

01:45:20.580 Let me read this.

01:45:21.440 Let me, let me read this.

01:45:22.340 It says the 38 year old upper East side or stresses that she's not looking for anything

01:45:25.160 outrageous, safety and security as far as finances go, but she's still coming up empty

01:45:29.240 on dates.

01:45:29.900 She says it's because the men she goes out with don't feel the innate push to succeed

01:45:33.860 that she does.

01:45:34.880 I think for years they've always just taken their role in society for granted.

01:45:38.020 And I think they're just getting lazy culturally.

01:45:40.340 I want to stress this woman who is 38.

01:45:43.040 She's not even hot.

01:45:43.800 And she can't find a guy.

01:45:45.440 And what does she do?

01:45:47.240 Can I, I want to, I want to, I want to tell you guys a story that maybe you've never heard.

01:45:50.920 She's very boy.

01:45:51.540 One day a Fox was walking through a field when it came upon, upon some grapes that were hanging

01:45:56.580 down from a vine on a tree.

01:45:58.100 And the Fox said, those grapes look mighty tasty and jumped in the air, but failed to

01:46:01.400 reach them.

01:46:01.800 After struggling for several minutes, it said, the grapes are probably sour anyway.

01:46:06.400 I'm pretty sure every single human being in this country knows the story of sour grapes

01:46:10.040 and what it means.

01:46:10.860 It means this lady cannot attain a man of status and value.

01:46:14.700 So she says, guys are lazy.

01:46:16.560 That's the real problem.

01:46:17.980 Yeah.

01:46:18.740 But it goes back to what I was saying with the female, female hubris, where they don't

01:46:22.160 feel they need to understand men.

01:46:23.500 If she understood men, she would have known that.

01:46:26.080 Well, I just don't qualify for a lot of guys because I'm too old.

01:46:28.400 Right.

01:46:28.640 And here's the other thing to the, you know, the elephant in the room, because I've dealt

01:46:32.100 with this too.

01:46:33.160 Women that are hyper successful, women that are, you know, in a professional field where

01:46:36.020 they make a lot of money, they tend to have a lot of masculine traits.

01:46:38.560 They're simply annoying.

01:46:39.380 They want to argue with you.

01:46:40.340 They want to challenge your masculinity all the time, your authority.

01:46:42.500 And it's like, dude, I didn't make this money to become the guy that I am to argue

01:46:45.720 with a bitch.

01:46:46.140 Like, no, thank you.

01:46:46.940 Get the fuck out of here.

01:46:47.980 Right.

01:46:48.180 And the thing is, is the more status of money a man has, the more likely he is to be honest

01:46:51.980 with what he wants and the less he's willing to tolerate fuckery from women and success

01:46:55.840 women like this are kind of, you know, they're like the bane of a successful guy's existence

01:47:00.760 because they're annoying.

01:47:01.540 They simply are.

01:47:02.340 I think it's funny.

01:47:02.780 That's why they're successful.

01:47:03.740 She keeps bumping into these guys who are 38 and not successful and lazy.

01:47:07.680 And it's like, lady, it's because the guys who are successful aren't going to date you.

01:47:11.900 Not because she, you know, there's another fable.

01:47:15.480 It's the fable of the guy who smelled shit everywhere and forgot to look at his shoe.

01:47:19.740 Yeah.

01:47:20.080 It's, it's just, you know, and I'll be honest with you.

01:47:22.340 Like this girl was, she's in New York city.

01:47:23.820 Like this girl's below average.

01:47:25.100 Like there's a bunch of young, attractive women in New York city, right?

01:47:27.960 She's in a competitive sexual marketplace.

01:47:29.680 She's a professional making a lot of money.

01:47:31.340 So she's already lost, you know, access to a majority of men.

01:47:34.560 So it's like, but I gotta know, I gotta follow up on this girl.

01:47:37.640 This is six years ago.

01:47:38.620 I wonder if she's married now, but here's her name's right there.

01:47:41.560 Yeah.

01:47:41.860 Here's, here's the crazy thing though.

01:47:43.000 If there's a guy who is 38 and he is trying to have a relationship, strong probability

01:47:49.420 he's thinking it's time to have a family and settle down, have some kids.

01:47:52.100 And he's not going to ask a 38 year old woman to do that.

01:47:54.380 Unless she's super hot and totally gets it, man.

01:47:57.060 Every once in a while.

01:47:57.560 Cause women can have babies until they're late.

01:47:59.360 You are wrong.

01:47:59.800 You are completely wrong.

01:48:01.200 No, I'm not.

01:48:01.820 I'm single in dating.

01:48:02.980 I know exactly what attracts me.

01:48:04.560 It's not always age, dude.

01:48:05.780 You are an anecdote.

01:48:07.760 35 year old women who get pregnant, it's called a geriatric pregnancy and the risks for preeclampsia

01:48:13.120 and other, other disorders are extremely high.

01:48:15.560 Yeah.

01:48:15.680 But I'd rather have a woman that synchronizes with me.

01:48:18.240 That's 36.

01:48:19.200 Then some idiot.

01:48:20.080 That's 26.

01:48:20.740 That doesn't get me.

01:48:21.960 That is super hot.

01:48:23.220 Great hips.

01:48:24.320 Like I'm not just in it for some baby and walk away.

01:48:27.280 You're talking about yourself.

01:48:28.800 You're talking about yourself because you are centering the universe around yourself.

01:48:31.580 I'm just saying not all guys are obsessed with age.

01:48:34.160 And once again, you are centering everything on yourself because the point is, this is a study

01:48:37.780 analyzing trends in dating and the average guy is not going to want to have a family

01:48:43.040 with a woman who is only going to be able to have one kid.

01:48:45.540 If that, and it's going to be a risky pregnancy with a lot of medication and complication potentials.

01:48:51.500 Was the study saying that that demographic of women is having a hard time?

01:48:55.860 Like there's just like a surplus of 38 year old women that can't match?

01:48:59.920 I don't know.

01:49:02.680 Let's see.

01:49:04.340 I don't know.

01:49:04.700 The more, the more highly educated women are marrying down.

01:49:09.000 Okay.

01:49:09.500 But I think this, this trends towards a woman who is more highly educated is probably going

01:49:13.780 to be a bit older for those reasons.

01:49:15.100 But what's like also what's marrying down because most men aren't going to university

01:49:19.360 anymore either.

01:49:20.180 So is that considered part of marrying down?

01:49:22.360 Cause I know.

01:49:23.260 Sorry, real quick.

01:49:24.000 They do mention 26 year olds, 28 year olds.

01:49:26.420 Okay.

01:49:26.800 So you scroll up a little bit.

01:49:28.140 I want to see her name.

01:49:28.960 I want to write it down.

01:49:29.560 Are they looking at marrying down though?

01:49:31.220 Like income, um, education level.

01:49:33.240 Yes.

01:49:33.560 Okay.

01:49:33.840 Yeah.

01:49:34.240 But men aren't going to school anymore.

01:49:35.860 And then I don't think they count trade school in that.

01:49:37.760 They don't count entrepreneurs in that.

01:49:40.800 Right.

01:49:41.420 So it's not completely wrong when they say most men, she says most, um, a 32 year old

01:49:45.900 said most men encounter underemployed.

01:49:47.780 They can't seem to make a living themselves.

01:49:48.960 Okay.

01:49:49.820 Wildly in debt.

01:49:50.760 I don't completely disagree with that, but the issue, my point is this.

01:49:53.860 While certainly for the individual who is underemployed, struggling is a problem for human coupling

01:50:00.700 and society as a whole, none of this matters.

01:50:03.080 If, if there's only 10 men in the country who are super successful and running it, everyone

01:50:08.680 else is a blob that can't work.

01:50:10.740 Those guys are going to have babies.

01:50:12.500 Elon's going to have 12 of them.

01:50:14.000 Those 12 kids are going to grow up with just better chances of success.

01:50:17.240 That's literally how coupling works.

01:50:18.700 There's going to be an ebb and a flow to this stuff.

01:50:23.020 There you go.

01:50:24.040 I don't think that girl got married.

01:50:25.280 I can't find all the data.

01:50:26.380 Oh no.

01:50:27.460 It's a Gina Theobald.

01:50:28.940 Well, but this is the point, man.

01:50:30.840 Society keeps telling women.

01:50:32.300 Do you guys remember that, uh, magazine cover of the woman who was like, I froze my eggs so

01:50:37.060 I can have it all?

01:50:37.880 Yeah.

01:50:38.240 Yeah.

01:50:39.100 It's a horror story.

01:50:40.280 This could, this, you know, they talk about rom-coms, like chick flicks.

01:50:44.420 You want to make a chick flick, chick flick horror story.

01:50:46.940 You make this movie.

01:50:48.100 She froze her eggs, got put on a magazine cover.

01:50:50.800 How much did she pay?

01:50:51.620 Probably tens of thousands.

01:50:53.240 And then, and then several years later, when she said she wanted to have kids, all of her

01:50:56.300 eggs were shattered and destroyed.

01:50:57.820 And she said, she screamed like a wild animal.

01:50:59.980 She will never be a mother.

01:51:01.520 Yeah.

01:51:01.720 I'm like, feminism, these, you know, here's an important, here's an important thing that

01:51:07.000 women need to understand.

01:51:09.040 The stories you are getting in the press about how you should freeze your eggs and do these

01:51:12.840 things are largely written by aging women with no families.

01:51:17.380 Their worldview is predicated upon the fact that they are living the life.

01:51:21.660 And in their mind, they're like, you can do it too.

01:51:24.520 Women who are, who have families and have found success and are happy with their lives

01:51:28.020 are not working for the New York Post or Glamour writing these articles.

01:51:31.140 Yeah.

01:51:31.420 I mean, it's the sex in the city lifestyle that they sell.

01:51:33.780 Like, you can do this and you can put it off, right?

01:51:35.580 The Sheryl Sandberg standard where it's like, go to college, have your fun with the bad

01:51:39.000 boys right before you hit your epiphany phase, 29, 30, whatever it may be, you'll be able

01:51:43.480 to find a guy and consolidate.

01:51:44.600 And the reality is, it's just, that's going to be very difficult to do.

01:51:47.480 You're basically trying to throw a Hail Mary.

01:51:48.860 Do you think that society is gearing back towards polyamory again?

01:51:52.200 Because like you said, Elon has 12 kids and everyone looks up to me.

01:51:55.580 Yeah.

01:51:56.020 Well, polygamy, maybe not necessarily marriage to multiple women.

01:52:00.020 Polygamy is marriage.

01:52:01.300 Polygamy is when you marry a couple of people.

01:52:02.340 But men having multiple partners, female partners and impregnating multiple women, the hyper

01:52:07.260 successful men, like the dating apps have kind of made it functionally possible.

01:52:11.420 And it is what we used to be like.

01:52:13.080 Like he said, only 20% of societies were ever monogamous up to this point.

01:52:17.040 And we need more kids.

01:52:18.780 And a lot of people think we need to repopulate faster.

01:52:22.540 Dude, this is terrifying.

01:52:24.040 I got the story from the National Post from 2018.

01:52:26.200 Cruel twist of fate for a single man who froze her eggs in her 30s to free her career.

01:52:30.440 At 45, with no sign of Mr. Right, she unfroze 11 eggs and selected a sperm donor.

01:52:36.660 What happened?

01:52:37.360 The eggs were all unviable.

01:52:38.840 She spent 20 grand to do it, 19,000.

01:52:42.160 In early 2017, with her 45th birthday looming and no sign of Mr. Right, she unfroze them.

01:52:46.020 Two eggs failed to survive the thawing process.

01:52:48.020 Three more failed to fertilize.

01:52:49.440 That left six embryos, of which five appeared to be abnormal.

01:52:52.380 The last one was implanted on the morning of March 7th.

01:52:55.100 She got the devastating news.

01:52:55.880 It had failed.

01:52:56.540 That's it.

01:52:56.900 You will never be a mother.

01:52:58.060 However, billions of years of human coupling and life and evolution ends with you.

01:53:03.660 And I don't mean to be mean to this lady, but I hope this is a warning to everyone.

01:53:09.260 That like, you know, it's fascinating what they're doing with these young kids and sterilizing and mutilating them.

01:53:16.700 When I was a kid, when I was 16, my mom was like, make sure you don't screw your credit up.

01:53:21.000 And I was like, what do I need that for?

01:53:21.880 And she goes, to buy a house.

01:53:22.640 And I'm like, I'm never going to buy a house.

01:53:23.540 I don't care.

01:53:23.960 And I'm like, looking at the economy, look at the stories.

01:53:26.140 I'm like, how am I going to buy a house?

01:53:27.340 I'm not buying a house now.

01:53:29.000 You know what I mean?

01:53:29.340 Like, you are dumb when you are young.

01:53:32.060 But 30 is not young.

01:53:33.440 30 is, you're getting old, man.

01:53:35.960 But they've been lied to their whole lives.

01:53:38.120 Like a 30-year-old, so if you're talking about a millennial, like we have been sold, like, you know, Spice Girls, Girl Power, you can have it all.

01:53:44.140 And then we're told that it's not fair, that we have to kind of choose family or career.

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01:55:16.120 You can be your own man.

01:55:19.020 And if men can do it, you can do it bleeding.

01:55:21.220 These are the stories that we were told.

01:55:23.560 So I don't blame her because she thought, and most women today think that egg freezing works.

01:55:28.500 They have no idea that the success rate is wildly low.

01:55:31.520 It's super expensive.

01:55:32.660 It's a huge medical procedure to do all of it.

01:55:35.100 And the unfortunate truth is you do have to pick.

01:55:37.640 Right?

01:55:37.760 It's not to say you can't have a job or work outside of the home, but, like, your career is going to take a massive hit if you choose to be a mom.

01:55:44.160 So if you know that you want to be a parent at some point, you have to take that into consideration and prioritize it at some point and be the one that bites the bullet.

01:55:52.360 Because guess what?

01:55:52.860 The guy can't carry the baby, and the guy's not breastfeeding.

01:55:54.840 Well, the other thing, too, I want to say, right?

01:55:56.460 I always have this phrase.

01:55:57.400 I say, when you lie, women buy.

01:55:59.220 There's a reason why advertisers target women specifically when they run their ads.

01:56:03.100 There was this famous Gillette commercial back from, like, 2019, 2020 to Toxic Masculinity One.

01:56:07.520 And I use that as an example all the time that marketing is almost always pushed towards women, even if it's a male product, because they understand that women are the ones that are probably going to buy these razors.

01:56:16.340 So women are more impressionable.

01:56:18.040 They're easier to control.

01:56:19.140 They're easier to manipulate.

01:56:21.280 They're communitarian by nature.

01:56:22.660 They find strength in numbers.

01:56:23.700 So they're the better target demographic for advertisers.

01:56:26.540 So when they go ahead and have this, you know, you can do this, you can do anything a man can do or some of the things that you're alluding to, women tend to buy that hook, line, and sinker because it sounds good.

01:56:36.820 And, you know, it's not so that it's too late that they find out it was a lie.

01:56:39.700 I'll tell you guys a secret.

01:56:40.660 It's not really a secret, but in the 2010s, largely with Facebook, a lot of these media companies like BuzzFeed, having to post, et cetera, they were making their bread and butter by getting viral articles on Facebook.

01:56:50.680 Go talk to any marketing person, and they'll tell you two things.

01:56:55.760 First, I'll ask you guys, which emotion generates the most shares of content?

01:57:01.020 Do you guys know?

01:57:01.600 I would say rage, personally.

01:57:03.380 Rage.

01:57:03.960 Anger.

01:57:04.240 Anger generates more shares, which means more views to your articles.

01:57:08.660 And then, obviously, which demographic is most likely to share an article?

01:57:13.220 Women.

01:57:13.940 By far.

01:57:14.340 With rage.

01:57:15.420 And what demographic of women?

01:57:18.140 White women.

01:57:19.200 White, middle-aged, liberal women who are angry share more than anybody else.

01:57:23.380 So people often talk about the rise of wokeness and stuff, and I tell you it's social media.

01:57:26.280 Also, they get the most prescription medication.

01:57:28.080 Sure does.

01:57:28.680 And this is probably why.

01:57:29.640 Talking about lower orgasm rates.

01:57:32.360 And I talked specifically to marketing guys at these companies, and they said our marketing strategy is predominantly geared towards producing articles and headlines that middle-aged, liberal women will share.

01:57:44.380 And it's for one reason.

01:57:45.480 Listen, if we make an article that will be shared by a conservative man, the rate at which they share it is substantially lower, meaning the cost per share is higher.

01:57:54.600 So when we're looking at maximizing viewership, we can spend $1 to get 1,000 liberal women to share an article, or we can spend $1 to get 27 conservative men to share an article.

01:58:04.480 We're going to go towards maximizing viewership to sell product.

01:58:07.940 We don't care about the politics.

01:58:09.580 We just want to move articles.

01:58:10.620 That's what built up all these companies, and that's why a lot of these companies went super far left.

01:58:16.600 Makes sense.

01:58:17.380 I mean, yeah.

01:58:18.320 You know, I got an interesting story here, like, with a friend.

01:58:21.120 So I got a friend.

01:58:21.860 He's a dating coach, right?

01:58:22.940 And he coaches both men and women.

01:58:25.280 And I find it amazing where when he coaches the men, he has to be brutally honest.

01:58:29.160 You're fat.

01:58:29.640 You're a loser.

01:58:30.580 You need to get some more money.

01:58:31.900 You need to stop being soft, whatever.

01:58:33.540 He's got to be extremely pragmatic and honest with why the guy is failing.

01:58:37.440 But with the women, and he doesn't have to tone police himself with how he speaks to them and tell them what it is.

01:58:42.160 With the women, he has to almost, like, he has to focus more on how he conveys the message versus the message.

01:58:48.020 And the women respond better to, like, lies.

01:58:50.440 And he was like, holy shit, this is very annoying.

01:58:51.800 But it's incredible how, if you look at male dating coaches and female dating coaches, female dating coaches, or, well, coaches that, like, deal with women is what I mean.

01:59:00.000 And they have to water down their message to be able to get it across because women have such a filter for the way information is conveyed versus with men.

01:59:07.020 It's like they don't care.

01:59:07.760 It's like, give me the facts.

01:59:08.900 Let's talk about the workplace.

01:59:10.460 Let's talk about the workplace.

01:59:12.660 I've been in these meetings where you have a pitch meeting on, say, documentaries.

01:59:17.160 I've been in this situation.

01:59:18.640 And you've got seven guys and three men.

01:59:20.860 And then one guy will say, one of the ideas I was looking at is this.

01:59:24.860 And they'll go, I don't think that's going to fly.

01:59:26.960 Let's not go with that one.

01:59:27.980 And what else do you got?

01:59:28.980 And the guy says, Kay, do you know what the women do?

01:59:32.680 After the meeting's over, they go, the only reason they shut my idea down is because I'm a woman.

01:59:36.000 And I'm like, and I'm sitting there going, like, they shut down Bill's idea.

01:59:39.600 And they were like, yeah, but whenever I have an idea, they say it's bad.

01:59:42.060 And I'm like, Bill presented 10 pitches in the past week, and they all got shot down.

01:59:46.380 Why do I keep hearing this trope where it's like women are saying they only, I don't know what your evidence is for that.

01:59:52.820 And I'm like, it's funny to me that on average in these meetings I've been to, guys get rejected.

01:59:58.280 90% of the time.

01:59:59.260 And I think this correlates largely with dating.

02:00:02.880 100%.

02:00:03.200 Guys know that when they go out, you know, actually, let's do this.

02:00:07.220 You ever watch King of the Hill?

02:00:08.600 Yes.

02:00:08.880 So Hank Hill, old show, by the way, is Bobby is a chubby little kid, and he can't figure it out.

02:00:14.620 So he knows Boomhauer is really good with the ladies.

02:00:17.160 And he goes, hey, Boomhauer, can you teach Bobby how to pitch woo?

02:00:19.680 And Bobby's like, yeah, man, you know, I'll help Bobby bring him in a mountain.

02:00:22.080 Yeah.

02:00:23.300 So he brings Bobby to a shoe store.

02:00:26.320 And he goes, all right, now, you know, Bobby, you're going to watch me.

02:00:28.000 I'm going to pick up some women, huh?

02:00:29.000 Then he walks up to him and he goes, damn, girl, looking pretty good.

02:00:31.300 Why don't you give me that number?

02:00:31.800 I'm going to hang out sometime.

02:00:32.640 And then she slaps him.

02:00:33.760 Then he turns around and goes to another woman, damn, girl, looking pretty good.

02:00:36.020 Why don't you give me that number?

02:00:36.540 I'm going to hang out sometime.

02:00:37.380 And then she shakes her head.

02:00:38.660 And then after, like, 15 women, he walks up to Bobby and he goes, yeah, look at that, Bobby.

02:00:41.820 I got a phone number.

02:00:42.380 And then Bobby's like, is that your secret, Mr. Boomhauer?

02:00:45.340 You just asked every woman.

02:00:46.820 He goes, shh, man, secret, man.

02:00:48.100 Oh, don't tell anybody.

02:00:55.840 Look at dating apps.

02:00:57.180 How do men use dating apps?

02:00:58.580 They swipe right on every single woman and then message as many as they can and cross their fingers.

02:01:03.180 Women open the app, go to their messages, and just look through any guy they decide they want to talk to.

02:01:08.260 Bring that into a work environment.

02:01:10.180 And a woman hears no for the first time and she's like, it's because I'm a woman.

02:01:13.460 Yeah, and that's 100% true because with women, they rarely get rejected in their life, especially if they're attractive.

02:01:20.060 So for them, it's like a huge insult.

02:01:22.120 And then also the other reason why women react to rejection so poorly is because they have, like, this biological instinct.

02:01:27.720 Like, if I'm being rejected, I'm being ostracized from the group.

02:01:29.720 If I'm being ostracized from the group, that means I can't survive because we know women need numbers, strength in numbers and men to help them, you know, survive in hunter-gatherer days.

02:01:38.280 So they react very poorly to rejection.

02:01:41.000 They're not used to it, man, especially a pretty girl.

02:01:42.940 Men, on the other hand, we get rejected all day.

02:01:45.440 We're used to it.

02:01:46.480 So for us, it's just another day in office.

02:01:49.520 I'll play like 10 seconds of this.

02:01:51.060 Yeah, that's funny.

02:01:53.040 Where's the audio?

02:01:53.760 We have no audio?

02:01:55.720 There's no audio coming in?

02:01:57.340 Can I hear it?

02:01:58.400 I can't hear anything.

02:01:59.080 I bet on my bed.

02:02:00.380 I'm talking about giving them digits, man.

02:02:02.560 Why don't you go home and take another cologne bath?

02:02:06.200 You just got blown off three times.

02:02:09.760 Yeah, I don't know.

02:02:10.440 So?

02:02:13.060 So?

02:02:13.940 Ow, it doesn't fit.

02:02:15.840 Yeah, man, maybe I don't show you something in our size boom.

02:02:18.920 Oh, you don't want to hear.

02:02:21.140 Get away from my feet.

02:02:25.340 He's still smiling, looking around.

02:02:28.400 He's unfazed.

02:02:29.600 You know, that perfectly encapsulates the masculine experience where trial and error,

02:02:39.400 taking Ls, getting your lumps and bruises, figuring it out, refining your strategy, and

02:02:43.700 then coming back to the marketplace stronger.

02:02:46.120 Because for men, we have to get rejected.

02:02:48.540 We got to go through trials and tribulations.

02:02:49.960 For women, it doesn't work that way, man.

02:02:50.940 That's why they hate rejection.

02:02:52.520 See, and what I see a lot now, too, though, is guys that don't want to deal with that,

02:02:55.460 though, so it's almost them complaining, like, oh, you don't know how hard it is, or I have

02:02:58.980 guys complaining about anxiety.

02:03:00.960 I can't imagine.

02:03:01.840 I would be single for the rest of my life if I had to approach a man.

02:03:04.680 It just wouldn't happen.

02:03:05.500 I would just die by myself.

02:03:06.820 So I do appreciate the effort that men have to go through to pair bond.

02:03:11.220 But what I see, especially with the younger guys, is like, I'm just not going to do it.

02:03:14.240 I have anxiety.

02:03:14.820 It's too much.

02:03:15.440 What if she says no?

02:03:16.180 It's like, get the fuck over it.

02:03:17.260 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:03:18.460 I tell those guys, yeah, no, no, no, stop.

02:03:20.140 Just don't even bother.

02:03:20.800 Don't try.

02:03:21.680 Like, if you're so weak that you can't figure it out, you can't solve your problems, then

02:03:25.280 this is evolution.

02:03:25.960 Have a nice day.

02:03:26.600 Oh, my gosh.

02:03:27.720 Well, hey, maybe guys need to hear a hard lesson.

02:03:29.940 Yeah, but sometimes species will evolve into extinction if you don't handle it properly.

02:03:33.380 If you are sitting around saying it's too hard and I can't do it, it's true.

02:03:37.100 It was Harry Truman who said, whether you believe you can or can't, you are right.

02:03:41.380 But you got to teach the kids.

02:03:42.760 They got to just deal with rejection.

02:03:44.260 I'm talking about a 25-year-old guy who's overweight, can't find work, can't get a woman, and he's

02:03:49.480 like, I don't know what to do, and it's too hard, I'm not going to try.

02:03:52.760 The only thing that matters, it doesn't matter if you're a failure right now, it doesn't

02:03:56.360 matter if you're a loser right now, it doesn't matter if you're ugly, it doesn't matter if

02:03:58.580 you're overweight, it doesn't matter if you're not working, all that matters is whether

02:04:01.640 you say, I will succeed or I will not even bother.

02:04:04.520 And if your mentality is, I don't even want to try anymore, I say thank you for your sacrifice.

02:04:07.860 Yeah, and the other, you know, survival of the fittest.

02:04:10.100 And the other thing, too, I think people need to also understand, the best pickup

02:04:13.260 artist in the world, the best guys with women, they only close about 10%.

02:04:16.740 Actually, was that Ford who said that?

02:04:18.840 World-class guys are closing 7% to 10% that teach this.

02:04:21.800 No way.

02:04:22.500 Yeah.

02:04:24.080 I didn't know.

02:04:24.520 It was Ford.

02:04:25.360 I said Truman, it was Ford.

02:04:26.120 Volume is like, when it comes to dealing with women, right, because I did a whole presentation

02:04:30.920 on this one time, like if you want to get the most girls, this is what you got to do.

02:04:34.120 Half the game is volume, getting in leads, because women are fickle, yeah, literally

02:04:38.800 sales, yeah, you got to get leads.

02:04:40.360 Whether it's online dating, cold approach, daytime, nighttime, whatever it may be, like

02:04:44.200 women are fickle, and depending on how you meet them, like they might just reject you

02:04:47.720 off rip.

02:04:48.200 So it's like, you have to just be able to move on quickly.

02:04:50.240 Watch that boom power clip.

02:04:51.380 If you want to get the most women, but I think some guys want to get one woman.

02:04:55.560 That's the problem, though.

02:04:56.580 When you have this one-itis, you have to play the game of volume, because if you try to

02:05:01.440 sit there and have one-itis and go after one girl, like what ends up happening is you

02:05:04.880 actually become less attractive, because you're going to display needy behaviors when you go after

02:05:09.040 that one girl, that's why it's so important to have, like, spread it out, have multiple

02:05:11.860 women, because you naturally have an abundance mindset, that makes you more.

02:05:14.660 I would be concerned that there would be an addiction to the chase once you find her among

02:05:19.220 seven or eight other women, you're like, well, maybe she's got, not quite, I'm going to keep

02:05:23.860 looking, and you passed by her.

02:05:27.100 Yeah, I'm sorry, look, the problem is, especially when we're looking at an article where it's a

02:05:30.600 38-year-old woman trying to find a 38-year-old guy.

02:05:32.360 Dude, your life, 38, you're at middle age, for life expectancy is in your mid to late

02:05:38.440 70s.

02:05:39.640 The issue for most Americans that they're going to run into, of which there is no cure,

02:05:43.680 is that your best chances for a relationship are in a very, very young age.

02:05:48.660 That's why people used to get married when they were, like, 18.

02:05:51.360 Men and women.

02:05:52.380 Men and women.

02:05:53.260 I think for men.

02:05:54.080 If you're a guy, and you are from the same, look, in the 1800s, and even going back when

02:05:59.420 you're talking about polyamory and the way olden days, most people lived on a farm plot

02:06:04.420 they never left.

02:06:05.940 90% of their time was, wake up, take care of the animals, go to sleep.

02:06:09.640 Rarely would they go to town.

02:06:11.160 Rarely would they go to the marketplace.

02:06:12.580 The post would arrive by carriage, chariot, or horse.

02:06:15.380 Almost never.

02:06:17.040 And so you were growing up, and your life was the same as your grandparents, was the

02:06:21.780 same as their grandparents, for hundreds of years.

02:06:23.540 You know what's nuts?

02:06:24.860 We invent, it took hundreds of years to invent the cartridge.

02:06:28.560 I was reading about gun history, and it's like, we developed gunpowder and muskets,

02:06:33.540 and for, like, 400 years, it was muzzle-loaded muskets.

02:06:36.740 Like, not a single person was like, maybe I can rifle this, and it'll be more.

02:06:40.700 It just took hundreds of years.

02:06:42.340 So everybody's life was the exact same.

02:06:45.180 Women knew exactly what they wanted.

02:06:46.980 They knew what they wanted to be.

02:06:48.380 Nothing was different.

02:06:49.560 Now the problem is, if you grew up in a society where your life was the exact same as someone

02:06:54.640 else's, your interests and worldview are aligned, it's going to be very easy for you.

02:07:00.000 But what, like, especially religious, because a woman's going to be like, I have to be a

02:07:03.320 good steward of the earth.

02:07:04.100 I have to be submissive before God.

02:07:05.920 That means I can't do these things.

02:07:07.180 I can't do that thing.

02:07:08.100 I need to be fruitful and multiply.

02:07:09.780 And the guy is going to say, I must do the exact same things.

02:07:12.660 They're going to get together, and their duty is to a bigger picture.

02:07:15.260 Now what's happening is a 25-year-old guy meets a 24-year-old woman.

02:07:18.080 She's from California, where she grew up surfing.

02:07:20.220 He's from Connecticut, where he grew up, you know, shrimping or crabbing or whatever,

02:07:24.240 not shrimping, you know, lobstering.

02:07:26.560 There you go.

02:07:26.840 Sorry.

02:07:27.720 Totally different worldview.

02:07:28.960 Totally different industries.

02:07:30.140 Totally different religions.

02:07:31.160 They both love the ocean.

02:07:32.460 Moral structures.

02:07:33.500 And they do.

02:07:34.640 And that's the...

02:07:35.540 Maybe they don't, but whatever.

02:07:36.460 No, no, no.

02:07:36.700 But that is my point.

02:07:37.660 There's one thing.

02:07:38.680 They're like, we have this in common.

02:07:39.900 We can go on boats.

02:07:41.000 And then three years later, they're like, this is not working.

02:07:43.220 I don't want to be with you.

02:07:44.000 Why?

02:07:44.420 Because their moral worldview and approach to everything was dramatically different from each other.

02:07:48.200 I'm not saying it's impossible.

02:07:49.200 I'm just saying it was substantially easier when people grew up in the same area doing very similar things.

02:07:53.620 It's like culture shock, but on a microcosm.

02:07:56.300 I want to say this, because the thing is, when you were talking about the one-itis,

02:08:00.740 the thing that makes you attractive as a guy is being, like, outcome independent.

02:08:03.880 And you only get that when you're talking to a lot of women, where they're like, okay,

02:08:06.960 this guy's around chicks, and that actually makes you more attractive.

02:08:09.500 Now, will you lose some leads doing that?

02:08:11.380 Potentially.

02:08:11.760 I know guys that put chicks in spreadsheets and whatever.

02:08:14.120 But I think the important thing to take away from here is that it's a very concern.

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02:09:45.360 ... effort to be good with women as a man, especially if you're not a natural.

02:09:49.180 You've got to learn this stuff and everything else like that.

02:09:51.260 And then going back to the thing with you,

02:09:53.340 I think with men, the things that make us attractive take time to accumulate.

02:09:58.040 Now, I know you're talking about the olden days where arranged marriages were a thing

02:10:01.020 and you grew up on a farm and everything else.

02:10:02.400 That's true.

02:10:03.360 But I'll say in today's day and age,

02:10:05.500 like women really need to consolidate on a guy as early as they can

02:10:09.280 versus for men, with women having higher standards,

02:10:12.080 you probably have to stave off marriage or a serious relationship

02:10:14.480 until you have certain things in order.

02:10:15.620 So when a jet said, not everything is a gun analogy or a farm analogy.

02:10:21.520 Hey, you know my priorities.

02:10:24.060 There we go.

02:10:24.820 Yeah.

02:10:25.500 Well, look, whether you can or can't, you're right.

02:10:29.620 Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right.

02:10:31.700 And all that really matters is for anybody listening to this or whatever,

02:10:36.160 as it pertains to, I know that like the bigger question was about legalizing porn and all that stuff.

02:10:39.660 That's more to do with like a moral society.

02:10:41.060 But as for the dating stuff, if a guy decides he can't and he doesn't get involved,

02:10:45.680 doesn't matter because some other guy is going to have a kid with this lady

02:10:49.020 and only the most successful survive and procreate.

02:10:53.420 I think there's a fear of, I like this girl.

02:10:56.520 Because my best, my longest relationship was with a girl that I'd known for a couple of years

02:11:00.140 and we were friends and then we started dating.

02:11:02.380 And it was very, very natural and we were great friends.

02:11:04.780 So there's this great base.

02:11:06.280 Other relationships have been shorter.

02:11:07.980 They started off with sex.

02:11:09.040 So like, but I, had I been afraid to approach the girl that I was friends with,

02:11:13.720 I didn't want to ruin the friendship.

02:11:15.120 I'm like, if I, if I try and take this to the next level and she's not comfortable with it,

02:11:18.840 we may never talk again.

02:11:20.180 And that could be very, very frightening.

02:11:22.800 But in reality, it was worth taking the risk.

02:11:26.180 And, and I don't, I don't think it gets as weird as you think it's going to get.

02:11:29.540 I've never existed in that mindset.

02:11:32.020 Being scared of losing a friendship.

02:11:33.860 That I've friendship does.

02:11:35.540 I, it's a weird thing to me that like friendship.

02:11:37.880 I don't know that, that, that concept seems foreign to me.

02:11:40.660 Like, I think women use are useless friends.

02:11:42.860 I'm going to be honest.

02:11:43.720 Well, that's the, that's the idea is like, look, as a man, if you desire something, you

02:11:48.740 pursue it.

02:11:49.260 And if you don't, you don't.

02:11:50.520 So this idea that's like, oh, but I will lose this friendship.

02:11:53.240 It's like, look, if there's a one I'm interested in, I'm going to pursue that.

02:11:58.760 And if she's not interested, then there is an impasse.

02:12:01.740 We both want something from each other that is unattainable.

02:12:04.260 This is the most annoying thing about the friend zone argument where, um, you know,

02:12:08.680 guys are like, I'm friend zone.

02:12:09.880 And women get offended that men don't want to be friends with them.

02:12:12.200 And I'm like, the man wants from you love and a relationship you don't want to provide.

02:12:16.720 You want from him companionship.

02:12:18.220 He doesn't want to provide.

02:12:19.060 It's a mutual exchange that is, that, that, that cannot occur.

02:12:21.680 So both parties separate.

02:12:23.060 Thank you.

02:12:23.360 And have a nice day.

02:12:24.000 Why are you mad about it?

02:12:25.060 But here's the difference.

02:12:26.240 Most guys are too dumb to realize that they're giving the woman value while not getting anything

02:12:30.440 back because she's getting boyfriend energy.

02:12:32.320 She's getting someone that she can trust.

02:12:34.140 She's getting in some cases where you might pay to hang out with her, where you guys get

02:12:37.500 like dinner or whatever.

02:12:38.500 Like she's getting all the boyfriend energy while you're not getting what you want.

02:12:41.260 And too many guys are okay with sitting in that friend zone getting used.

02:12:44.240 And, and, and these women don't realize it, but these guys who are saying, okay, I'll be

02:12:48.440 in the friend zone are secretly hoping they're not going to be in the friend zone.

02:12:51.080 Yeah.

02:12:51.380 Like it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, there's no mutual exchange there.

02:12:54.180 And I don't, I don't, there's, it's like, I hear from all these, these, like in the,

02:12:58.680 in the dating scene, like women will be like, it's, it's, it's BS.

02:13:01.780 He won't be my friend.

02:13:02.940 Why would you do this to me?

02:13:04.360 And it's simple.

02:13:05.140 The guy should just say, with all due respect, you want from me and I want from you, but we

02:13:09.320 want different things.

02:13:10.160 So we're not going to hang out, but we can't be friends.

02:13:12.300 No, we can't.

02:13:13.560 Thank you.

02:13:13.920 And have a nice day.

02:13:14.440 I'm not mad at you.

02:13:15.200 Bye.

02:13:15.860 Yeah.

02:13:16.140 I mean, it just doesn't make sense because men and women are just different.

02:13:18.840 Like most women aren't going to be able to bond or identify with you on certain things.

02:13:22.320 So it's like, I, like, you know, this might be come off as, I guess, rash, but like women

02:13:27.560 are useless friends for you as a guy.

02:13:29.080 Like you're almost always going to be giving way more value than she does.

02:13:32.100 Well, there's the girl friend.

02:13:34.540 Ian, sorry.

02:13:35.320 Sorry.

02:13:35.520 I had to do this.

02:13:36.160 I have, I have a real hard stop.

02:13:37.380 We could do this for hours.

02:13:38.420 I got to go to the dentist.

02:13:39.540 Oh, it's yeah.

02:13:40.840 So, uh, this is like my followup.

02:13:42.880 They have to, you know, do more stuff.

02:13:44.100 So I have to stop now because we're leaving soon.

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