ALIENS ARE REAL
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Is Steven Spielberg's new movie, "Disclosure Day," a movie about the possibility of an alien invasion, a hoax? Or is it evidence of a real alien invasion? Is the earth round? Is it flat? Is there a conspiracy to make us think the earth is round? In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Blumberg takes a deep dive into the possibility that aliens are real.
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Over the past several months, in fact, over the past several years, there's been a conversation around whether or not aliens are real, whether or not they will come soon, with many podcasters, members of Congress, and even the president himself hinting at disclosure.
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There's another conspiracy outside of aliens called predictive programming.
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People believe that the U.S. government intentionally produces works of fiction to prepare people's minds for potentialities.
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That is, a movie will come out talking about a certain idea, and then a year later, that
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thing will happen, and people will have a general perception around it.
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Let me explain why this theory exists before we get into the movie, Disclosure Day, and
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There's an old story that when the Conquistadors, or maybe not the Conquistadors, I guess Christopher
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Columbus, not the Conquistadors, were coming to the New World, their boats on the horizon
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coming toward the Bahamas. This is where Columbus first landed. The natives on that island could not
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see the ships. They couldn't see them. But there was an old man, an elder of the natives on the
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island, sitting on the beach, and he looks up and he noticed something. The waves were acting
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strangely. They weren't looking like they normally do. You know, waves bounce off islands, right? And
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many of these cultures could track this. He looks straight down the line and he sees something.
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Doesn't know what it is, but there's something there. He tells the other younger members of
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the tribes, do you see this? And they say, I don't know what you're pointing at. That thing right
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there. I have no idea what you're pointing at. It was only after he sat them down and showed them
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that they finally went, wait, whoa, there's something there. They could not fathom a caraval,
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a large wooden ship. And that is the idea of predictive programming, that regular people
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cannot conceive of something's existence. And so movies are given to everybody and promoted and
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everyone's told, watch this, so that the idea is in their mind and they have a general perception
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of what it might be if it turns out to be true. And I don't know that that's real or anything
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like this, but that's what the argument is. Now people are pointing out that it's very strange
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that there's been discussions in the U.S. government about disclosure of extraterrestrial
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intelligence, interdimensional life, or something to this effect. And a movie is also simultaneously
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coming out called Disclosure Day, with Steven Spielberg saying, all of this is true.
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Which leads us to why fans think Spielberg's Disclosure Day is teasing a real alien invasion.
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indeed well we don't know there's a lot we don't know and the only thing we know is that we know
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nothing it's kind of sad actually when you get to the point in multi-ordered thinking when you
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really understand this some people never will and i gotta tell you ignorance is bliss but we think
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we know stuff right is the earth round is it flat well we think the earth is round for a variety of
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reasons. The unfortunate reality is that there are many people who think the Earth is round
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simply because someone told them that it was. They haven't explored the idea and investigated
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themselves. And this leads some people to investigate and then determine the Earth is
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flat, for which they would be wrong. I saw this video. It was on Instagram where a guy says,
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the U.S. Navy's got lasers that can take out cruise missiles at 100 miles at this distance,
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not accommodating for curvature, how does that make sense?
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We have like scanning technology that can scan,
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We don't have laser weapons, directed energy weapons, they're called DEWs, that can actually take out an enemy vehicle at 100 miles.
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Now, maybe private, you know, top secret stuff, sure, they've got weird weapons.
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You know, you got Bob Lazar meeting with Joe Rogan in that massive episode saying,
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I saw weird stuff and it could all be fake. It could all be a psyop. What about Epstein?
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What do we really know? So I tell you this. It's a lesson I learned a long time ago.
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Is the earth round? I'd say that a reasonable person of high intelligence would argue
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the evidence that we have collected points to. Yes, it is for a variety of reasons.
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Now, for the layman who's never actually tested any of it, they are susceptible to manipulations
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but you can do some pretty rudimentary experiments
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and you're exploiting a realization they have made a presumption about the world based on
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an authority figure and not actually tested it out for themselves i hate to say it but i have
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done some rudimentary tests with friends as we've explored drone technologies and
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other mathematic phenomenon in radio and communications that required us to literally
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understand the curvature of the earth but there are there i think we are being lied to in a lot
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of ways. And the end result, as a reasonable person concludes, we may be wrong. Science is
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constantly in development. You know, we thought dinosaurs were lizards, now they're birds.
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So everyone's like, Jurassic Park is all wrong. Well, here we go, my friends. Disclosure day.
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Are aliens real? Is this predictive programming? Before we jump into all that, guys, go to
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you probably know stuff too. When you come together, you can change the world. That's what
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Why fans think Spielberg's Disclosure Day is teasing a real alien reveal.
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I won't play the full thing, but I'll just give you a quick snippet of the trailer
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so you can understand what it is, and we'll roll a little bit,
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it's a stack it's a stack i am much more inclined now than i was when i made close encounters
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to really believe that we're not the only intelligent civilization in the universe
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what did you steal secrets so i want to highlight just the first thing is that in this trailer
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they show this like what is this called FLIR footage I forgot what the name of it is
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but it's like military footage that looks very similar to what has been released in these
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disclosures Spielberg saying I'm more inclined to believe that there's intelligent life
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I think mathematically speaking the likelihood of intelligent life existing in the universe
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is a guarantee why we exist now are we the only ones I don't think that's true and even if you're
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a religious individual, then you can at least acknowledge angels and demons. There is still
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a perception that there are other intelligent entities that exist, whatever your view on them
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may be. Now, in the end, Spielberg says this. All of this is true, he says. Maybe. Don't you
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think it's kind of weird that a movie is coming out right around the time the government has been
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talking about disclosure? No, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. I don't know about any predictive
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programming stuff, but I got to say this. How long does it take to make a movie? A couple of years?
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Trump's been Trump's been in office for a year and a half, not even a year and a half, a year
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and four months. I mean, how much of that is actually getting work done? They've been talking
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about releasing information on this and the movie is already ready to go? Well, it's possible. It
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really is. I mean, a year and a half for Steven Spielberg has already got the money. Spielberg
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goes to a studio and says, I want to make this movie. They put a script together. To be honest,
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it's possible. So it may just be they are targeting a market that is plainly visible.
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This alien talk goes viral. People want to know about it. And people are demanding that the
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government release information on UFOs and aliens. Spielberg says, guys, it's a free ticket.
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We can easily make this movie, crank out a garbage script, call it Disclosure Day, and
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we're good. And thus, they do a marketing campaign like this, hoping that people like me
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will talk about articles like this, and it'll go viral. And guess what? Now you've heard of
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the new movie that's coming out, Disclosure Day, and they're going to make a lot of money on it.
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They say Spielberg has previously tackled the idea of extraterrestrial life in movies like Close Encounters, The Third Kind, and E.T., War of the Worlds.
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Disclosure Day is a different tone than his three previous movies as it plays more like a conspiracy thriller.
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Emily Blunt, Josh O'Connor, Colin Firth, Eve Hewson, and Coleman Domingo star.
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I'm not going to see Mandalorian Grogu, but this looks fun.
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The final trailer is added to the ranks of passionate fans
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who believe Spielberg will reveal the existence of aliens.
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wouldn't it be wonder if all this turned to be true?
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Does Spielberg know about the existence of aliens?
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Many fans have taken a Reddit to discuss their theories.
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Similarities between Disclosure Day and .gov videos.
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You know, I know everybody would much prefer for me to say things like aliens are real.
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But I'm going to be the skeptic here and say, yeah, maybe.
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but they're making a product for you to purchase, exploiting your interest in this topic.
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The government releases footage you want to know, and they said, let's sell tickets to
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the show, and you're going to buy it, and I'm going to buy it, and we're going to laugh,
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we're going to cry, we're going to eat popcorn, and we're going to buy it.
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However, there's another nefarious conspiracy, something around the idea of information vaccination.
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remember men in black when i was a kid and men in black came out i didn't know nothing about no men
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in black i didn't know nothing it was just a fun goofy alien government movie and in the movie
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agents k and j are you know it's a buddy cop alien film and they can erase your memory you know all
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stuff and uh i just thought it was a movie and then when i got older and got was was more online
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and reading about the stuff, I learned it's a movie based on an actual conspiracy theory.
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For a long time, there's been a theory about when people have UFO sightings,
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men wearing all black and sunglasses show up and tell them you didn't see anything.
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This conspiracy theory led people to be like, let's make a movie about it.
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The conspiracy theory now is that the movie Men in Black was made
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so that in the event anyone actually would encounter
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you know, men in black is probably a silly way to describe it
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If you said, I saw a UFO and then the sky showed up
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and told me I didn't see anything and just shut up,
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they're gonna be like, oh my God, dude, that was a movie.
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That's literally the movie, dude, it's made up.
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And then if anyone actually experiences it, people are going to go, bro, you're talking
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They they make reference to this R slash UFOs whistleblower six months ago.
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I know a lot of people like read this and they're all excited, but it's annoying because
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I've been around many countries and world leaders, and I can tell you things are much
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If you want to write something to convince people about alien disclosure, claiming you're
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a whistleblower, you've got to make it more mundane.
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You know, what's funny is I wonder what people think about the goings on here at the Tim
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cast studio. Because I'll tell you, I wake up, I come in. Usually it's just Brian who's working.
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No one else is here. There are some people, you know, we got a couple different buildings.
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I start recording and that's about it. It's very quiet. It's not very noisy.
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No crazy shenanigans. There's no jetpacks. You know, there's no deep conversations.
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But people want to live in this world. So let me tell you this. Here's a good one. I had a meeting
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with Netanyahu. Sure did. That was last year. I got invited to a, was it last year? When was it?
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Yeah, it was like, it was a while ago, wasn't it? Man, time flies, huh? And it was at the Blair
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House, which is on the White House grounds. It's the guest house for the White House. And a bunch
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of journalists and other personalities, social media influencers were invited. And basically,
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Netanyahu talked about the judiciary. Guys, I know it's like Chatham House rules. Chatham House
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rules means you can say, here's exactly what was said, but you're not supposed to attribute things
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to other people. He talked about, like, Socrates and, like, the courts and stuff. It was very
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boring. I can't stand these people. Sorry, guys. It's just true. And then they advocated for the
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U.S. getting involved in a war with Iran, to which everybody rolled their eyes, and half the people
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were like, no, and half were like, whatever you say, Israel, and it was like, whatever.
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Now, the thing is, in the minds of the average person, they have this grandiose vision of what
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must have really happened. They think that I was handed a check for $7,000 or that I was recruited
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or just, guys, I'm going to tell you, I walked into a room. They said, you guys can have a seat
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here. Netanyahu was very boring. Like, I'm not trying to be a dick. Maybe I can be, I don't know.
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Whatever your opinion is on the guy. He talked about like Socrates. I was kind of just sitting
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there being like, what am I doing here? You know, then he talked about the threat of a nuclear Iran.
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Everybody kind of argued and grumbled, and some people said, we're not concerned about it.
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It was no more exciting than listening to like any other podcast.
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But there are people who believe it's like the craziest thing imaginable.
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When I see a story like this, here's the point.
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Sorry, the bigger the story, the bigger the lie.
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Let me give you an example of what this, what this disclosure, this whistleblower is saying,
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For a long time, I was, you know, given views of what was going on.
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The onion, the layers only go so deep, and I only got access to some of them.
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Earth was noticed two billion years ago by the council, a group of aliens who track life
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Two billion years ago, they picked up biosignatures and sent probes.
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Then they built underground, I'm sorry, underwater facilities because underwater temperature and
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pressure doesn't change and blah, blah, blah, which is dumb. It doesn't make sense. The moon
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would make more sense. The reason for the base underwater is simple. The bottom of the ocean
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does not care about ice ages, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then early humans are doing interesting
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things. So they came to track us. My favorite part is the arids. Here you go. So 65,000 humans
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were abducted from earth and relocated to a new planet called 82 Eridani. Those people are called
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Arids. Hey, Arids, that's the alien rock species from Project Hail Mary. Maybe someone read the
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book, I guess, or maybe the movie is predictive programming, or maybe they're poisoning the well
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information vaccination. So when someone sees this story about Aridani humans, they go, wait,
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wait, what? Arids was the name of the rock thing from the Project Hail Mary book. It's an old book,
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guys. Jeez. Who knows? What I will say is this. It goes on to say that arids were given a
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controlled paradise. Humans developed with alien technology. And then they're much more advanced
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than the 40s and 50s, like Earth is the control. How do humans react on a natural environment with
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scarce resources? How do they react with tons of resources? Blah, blah, blah. Then the crash
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incidents happen and yada, yada, yada. And now we're getting close to Disclosure Day. And they're
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going to reveal the existence of the council and all that and this and otherwise. Okay, sure.
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What are they saying? It's like a kiddie pool. It's a fun read, but I'm just going to say this.
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It's too extraordinary. The reality of life is much more mundane. It just is. Guys, I have met
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with ambassadors. I have met the president himself, and it's kind of fascinating just how
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boring most things are. You can go to Mar-a-Lago, okay? You can go. You can just go. You can walk
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in, and they'll say, howdy. I did it. And if the president is there, you can still just walk in.
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It's the craziest thing. Trump had a meeting. We were there, and so we walked up. I went and got
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a suit. Hey, look at me. I walked in, and there was the president. Now, it's a little bit easier.
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I get it because I know a lot of the people that work with the president. Shout out to Alex
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Sprucewitz, who was like, Mr. President, I want to introduce you to Tim Poole. He's a big podcaster.
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And then Trump shook my hand and he said, well, of course he is. Look at his face, you know,
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and Trump's a charmer. My point ultimately is, though, we just walked in the front door.
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Mar-a-Lago is accessible. Trump wants it to be that way. Now, if you're disheveled and looking
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weird, then I ask you who you are and what you're doing. But it's a it's a semi private. It's a
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private club. But this means there's a lot of people that come and go and you can go to the
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gift shop, and Trump's a charmer. He's got a secret service. My point is, it was all just so
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much more mundane than people want it to be. Everyone's always trying to make it seem like
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their life is more exciting than it really is. That's what I see with a story like this.
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It's just too fantastic. You could tone it down a little bit, but that's the idea of predictive
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programming. If this story really were true, they say that the bugs are coming. Other aliens want to
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wipe out humanity or something. And it's like, okay, dude, like, you know, sorry. It's just,
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it's usually much more mundane than that. So I've had a million and one conversations about aliens.
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And, you know, I think one of the challenges that people have is their inability to think
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outside the box. And so these conversations are usually like, I don't think aliens would come
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here because if they had the technology to travel faster than the speed of light, why would they
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bother with us? And it's like, let me pause real quick. Let me pause real quick. You've made a
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handful of assumptions there. We don't know that traveling faster than light is the means by which
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people are, life would be spacefaring. I think it's reasonable to believe that there are elements
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of physics and energy spectrums we are not capable of comprehending or perceiving. In fact,
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the human can't perceive the charged electromagnetic spectrum for the most part. We can see the visible
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spectrum. Yet we know, based on cell technology and radio waves, that there are other spectrums
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of energy that transmit beyond our perception. We know that gravity, we believe, is a function
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of space-time curvature, and it's hard to know exactly. We think we know. So right now, based on
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a limited understanding we have of these technologies, the presumption we are making
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is that in order to travel the universe, you would need some kind of warp drive. Folding space-time
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wormholes, perhaps. How do you do it? Stargates, as it were. In Star Trek, they warp space-time
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to create a bubble, so they're not actually moving faster than light. They're moving between space.
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The way I view our perception of science and technology would be like going back 200 years,
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going back 100 years, you know, 200 years is better.
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And saying to somebody, you could travel from New York to California in five hours.
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You would need a ship on a waterway with winds so strong that can't be done.
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And any civilization that had the means to do it would certainly be doing other things and going other places, right?
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Well, we know that doesn't make sense because we have the combustion engine and we build roads.
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So you can actually just drive to California from New York in, what is it, like 36 hours, maybe two days, maybe 48.
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See, back then, they could not conceive of heavier than air flight using jet engines.
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So the presumption of traveling from New York to London in five hours was insane.
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We're talking about a month, a three-month long journey.
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And you're like, if the winds are good, imagine saying you could travel from London to New
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The winds would have to be like, you know, so insane, it would rip the ship to shreds.
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One of my favorite quotes ever was when the steam engine was being invented and a proposal
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And he said, you mean to sail against the wind by letting a bonfire under the deck?
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It's like, maybe it's apocryphal or whatever, but I love that quote.
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He couldn't even conceive of what the guy was inventing right in front of his eyes.
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Aliens might have a higher form of development beyond our understanding of physics, and they're
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able to travel in ways we can't even conceive of.
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maybe they ride light. The argument is that even if they were traveling at the speed of light,
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you've got time dilation, relativistic time dilation, and then you've got the issue of
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even then it takes a really long time to travel. And I'm like, maybe there's a means by which you
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can travel that we have not yet discovered. There you go. That's it. The presumption that you have
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to sail the oceans to get from place to place because we've not yet discovered air travel is
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the easiest way to understand it. They might just be like, oh, yeah, you know, light. Aliens are
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going to be like, how do we explain this to you? It's the Flarb continuum. And we go like, what's
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that? It's like, man, there's an old saying that if you gave Christopher Columbus a nuclear submarine
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with unlimited labor resources and materials, he would never replicate it because he doesn't
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understand the fundamental principles around how a nuclear submarine operates. So for aliens,
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The next assumption is they wouldn't want to bother with us.
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Well, why do we bother with, you know, meerkats?
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To study them, to learn, to understand the universe.
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And maybe the reality is with an artificial superintelligence,
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And you're right, they really don't care about us.
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But I would also say that the idea that the intergalactic species operate like standard, you know, inter, like, I don't know how you describe it.
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We have different countries fighting for different reasons.
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The idea that the universe, like in Star Trek, how you've got the Romulans versus the Klingons and the Federation and the Dominion comes, I also think that's rudimentary.
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why go bother that planet? That's it. By the time we get in outer space, you know what? Let me put
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it like this. Birds are not aggressive. They're not. A bird can be sometimes, depending on the
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threat against their babies. But for the most part, birds are not aggressive. Badgers are
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extremely aggressive. Why? Burrowing animals tend to be more aggressive than animals that have easy
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means of escape. Birds can move in three dimensions with flight. So typically what
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happens is they avoid the flight. It is less energy intensive. It is easier to fly away
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than get into a fight. Badgers don't have a choice. They're in a burrow. There's only one
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way out. And if they're trapped, it's fight or die. In outer space, it's not going to be a trap.
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This likely insinuates that based on what we know of life on Earth,
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life we encounter in outer space may very well just not be all that interested in conflict
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as it's a waste of energy and a detriment to whatever their passion or interests really are.
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In the end, it may just be a boring council, in which case the theory could go like this.
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Well, they make an interesting point in that, you know, little sci-fi story.
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to understand if we are violent for the sake of violence. And I don't think humans are.
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I think that if humans ever become spacefaring to a great degree, I mean, Elon's working on it,
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we're largely going to mind our own business. We are driven towards our own desires, not
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conflict for the sake of conflict. Conflict arises due to competition for resources.
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If we were in outer space and came across aliens, we'd be like, hey, can you help us?
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You got anything to help us out with? And if they say no, we'd be like, I guess we're going
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to keep doing our thing. Why waste energy and resources interacting with something that's not
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interacting with us? Doesn't make any sense. And if they came to fight us, like, what would they
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gain from it? Well, slaves, I guess. But there's better slaves than humans. Robots could do the
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job. That's all in all, my friends. I don't know why we would assign, ascribe human passions based
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on limited technology to spacefaring peoples. I imagine if humans go to the stars, we're more
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interested in learning about physics and time than we would be to get into a war or a conflict
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or something. Now, there is one scary component, and that's the overlap in the current state of
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humanity versus alien technology. So it may be true that if we were spacefaring, we wouldn't
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really care about war or conflict, but we're not. We are currently in conflict with other countries,
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in which case alien technology can greatly advance the cause of the United States
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or Iran, China, or Russia, or whoever else, in which case that's a problem. So aliens may
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actually just say, we don't want to go anywhere near that planet. It's billions of angry monkeys
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fighting with each other. We go there and they get access to this technology, and then the fighting
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just goes crazy, and we don't want to be involved in that. So, I suppose we will see. I will say
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this, though. A couple more conspiracies to throw into the mix. Matt Gaetz claimed that there are
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alien hybridization facilities across the planet that certain humans are actually hybridized to
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be able to communicate with aliens and humans. I wonder. What if the aliens communicate in a way
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using a spectrum we can't perceive? What if they're interdimensional and your rudimentary
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human can't actually see them? So they hybridize some humans who can perceive beyond the veil to
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communicate with these interdimensional beings? I wonder. Whistleblower claims CIA used DNA data
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from Ancestry and 23andMe customers in search of aliens. Why? He says there are people with
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extraterrestrial DNA in their makeup. The CIA wants to hunt them down. Interesting. Maybe,
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maybe not. In the meantime, though, the real question is outside of these conspiracy theories,
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why is the government pushing this disclosure stuff? Why are so many talking about it? What
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is the real motive? Is it to trick us or is it that they are slowly revealing more because
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