The Culture War - Tim Pool - May 28, 2026


ALIENS ARE REAL

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Is Steven Spielberg's new movie, "Disclosure Day," a movie about the possibility of an alien invasion, a hoax? Or is it evidence of a real alien invasion? Is the earth round? Is it flat? Is there a conspiracy to make us think the earth is round? In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Blumberg takes a deep dive into the possibility that aliens are real.

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00:00:00.000 Over the past several months, in fact, over the past several years, there's been a conversation around whether or not aliens are real, whether or not they will come soon, with many podcasters, members of Congress, and even the president himself hinting at disclosure.
00:00:15.260 There's another conspiracy outside of aliens called predictive programming.
00:00:19.820 People believe that the U.S. government intentionally produces works of fiction to prepare people's minds for potentialities.
00:00:28.300 That is, a movie will come out talking about a certain idea, and then a year later, that
00:00:33.460 thing will happen, and people will have a general perception around it.
00:00:37.980 Let me explain why this theory exists before we get into the movie, Disclosure Day, and
00:00:42.960 how people believe it's a weird coincidence.
00:00:46.300 There's an old story that when the Conquistadors, or maybe not the Conquistadors, I guess Christopher
00:00:51.840 Columbus, not the Conquistadors, were coming to the New World, their boats on the horizon
00:00:57.380 coming toward the Bahamas. This is where Columbus first landed. The natives on that island could not
00:01:04.060 see the ships. They couldn't see them. But there was an old man, an elder of the natives on the
00:01:10.720 island, sitting on the beach, and he looks up and he noticed something. The waves were acting
00:01:16.700 strangely. They weren't looking like they normally do. You know, waves bounce off islands, right? And
00:01:23.680 many of these cultures could track this. He looks straight down the line and he sees something.
00:01:30.900 Doesn't know what it is, but there's something there. He tells the other younger members of
00:01:35.300 the tribes, do you see this? And they say, I don't know what you're pointing at. That thing right
00:01:38.540 there. I have no idea what you're pointing at. It was only after he sat them down and showed them
00:01:44.220 that they finally went, wait, whoa, there's something there. They could not fathom a caraval,
00:01:50.920 a large wooden ship. And that is the idea of predictive programming, that regular people
00:01:56.660 cannot conceive of something's existence. And so movies are given to everybody and promoted and
00:02:03.040 everyone's told, watch this, so that the idea is in their mind and they have a general perception
00:02:09.820 of what it might be if it turns out to be true. And I don't know that that's real or anything
00:02:14.720 like this, but that's what the argument is. Now people are pointing out that it's very strange
00:02:19.500 that there's been discussions in the U.S. government about disclosure of extraterrestrial
00:02:24.300 intelligence, interdimensional life, or something to this effect. And a movie is also simultaneously
00:02:30.500 coming out called Disclosure Day, with Steven Spielberg saying, all of this is true.
00:02:37.420 Which leads us to why fans think Spielberg's Disclosure Day is teasing a real alien invasion.
00:02:45.660 indeed well we don't know there's a lot we don't know and the only thing we know is that we know
00:02:53.300 nothing it's kind of sad actually when you get to the point in multi-ordered thinking when you
00:02:59.660 really understand this some people never will and i gotta tell you ignorance is bliss but we think
00:03:04.820 we know stuff right is the earth round is it flat well we think the earth is round for a variety of
00:03:12.480 reasons. The unfortunate reality is that there are many people who think the Earth is round
00:03:16.900 simply because someone told them that it was. They haven't explored the idea and investigated
00:03:21.680 themselves. And this leads some people to investigate and then determine the Earth is
00:03:26.180 flat, for which they would be wrong. I saw this video. It was on Instagram where a guy says,
00:03:33.940 the U.S. Navy's got lasers that can take out cruise missiles at 100 miles at this distance,
00:03:39.060 not accommodating for curvature, how does that make sense?
00:03:43.040 At 100 miles, you're looking at 6,000 feet.
00:03:45.720 And then a bunch of people are like,
00:03:46.920 he's wrong about the curvature at 100 miles.
00:03:49.480 And I'm sitting here being like,
00:03:50.900 bro, we don't have directed energy weapons
00:03:52.620 that can travel 100 miles. 0.98
00:03:53.800 Are you nuts? 0.94
00:03:55.600 We have like scanning technology that can scan, 0.97
00:03:58.220 I think around like 50 or 60 miles.
00:04:01.140 Indeed, that's impressive.
00:04:03.580 But man, at least publicly disclosed,
00:04:07.500 We don't have laser weapons, directed energy weapons, they're called DEWs, that can actually take out an enemy vehicle at 100 miles.
00:04:16.680 That's just not public.
00:04:18.900 Now, maybe private, you know, top secret stuff, sure, they've got weird weapons.
00:04:22.920 But his argument was the laser doesn't curve.
00:04:25.600 My argument is the laser doesn't exist.
00:04:27.980 But we don't actually know, do we?
00:04:29.780 We don't actually know.
00:04:31.900 You know, you got Bob Lazar meeting with Joe Rogan in that massive episode saying,
00:04:35.580 I saw weird stuff and it could all be fake. It could all be a psyop. What about Epstein?
00:04:39.980 What do we really know? So I tell you this. It's a lesson I learned a long time ago.
00:04:46.020 Is the earth round? I'd say that a reasonable person of high intelligence would argue
00:04:51.720 the evidence that we have collected points to. Yes, it is for a variety of reasons.
00:04:57.620 Now, for the layman who's never actually tested any of it, they are susceptible to manipulations
00:05:01.940 from people who are otherwise wrong.
00:05:04.360 And don't get me wrong,
00:05:05.220 there are things that we don't understand
00:05:07.120 and we're certainly being lied to,
00:05:09.140 but you can do some pretty rudimentary experiments
00:05:11.560 to determine that the earth is round.
00:05:14.280 Sorry, guys, that's just true.
00:05:16.780 My point in bringing this up
00:05:18.020 is to highlight one of the exploits here.
00:05:21.480 If you go to your average person
00:05:23.140 and you ask them, 0.98
00:05:24.380 this is what flat earthers do,
00:05:25.860 you ask a person,
00:05:26.800 have you ever done the tests yourself?
00:05:29.140 The answer is no.
00:05:29.960 and you're exploiting a realization they have made a presumption about the world based on
00:05:35.580 an authority figure and not actually tested it out for themselves i hate to say it but i have
00:05:41.200 done some rudimentary tests with friends as we've explored drone technologies and
00:05:46.340 other mathematic phenomenon in radio and communications that required us to literally
00:05:53.100 understand the curvature of the earth but there are there i think we are being lied to in a lot
00:05:58.360 of ways. And the end result, as a reasonable person concludes, we may be wrong. Science is
00:06:03.840 constantly in development. You know, we thought dinosaurs were lizards, now they're birds.
00:06:07.600 So everyone's like, Jurassic Park is all wrong. Well, here we go, my friends. Disclosure day.
00:06:14.080 Are aliens real? Is this predictive programming? Before we jump into all that, guys, go to
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00:06:29.260 you probably know stuff too. When you come together, you can change the world. That's what
00:06:33.060 passionate, driven individuals can do. Unfortunately, you can't do it on your own.
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00:06:55.200 Here's a story from AOL.com.
00:06:58.080 Why fans think Spielberg's Disclosure Day is teasing a real alien reveal.
00:07:03.400 Now, I think I actually have the trailer here.
00:07:07.060 I won't play the full thing, but I'll just give you a quick snippet of the trailer
00:07:10.380 so you can understand what it is, and we'll roll a little bit,
00:07:13.640 and then I'll show you what Spielberg says.
00:07:17.260 I can see you.
00:07:21.060 it's a stack it's a stack i am much more inclined now than i was when i made close encounters
00:07:29.920 to really believe that we're not the only intelligent civilization in the universe
00:07:35.900 what did you steal secrets so i want to highlight just the first thing is that in this trailer
00:07:47.000 they show this like what is this called FLIR footage I forgot what the name of it is
00:07:51.800 but it's like military footage that looks very similar to what has been released in these
00:07:56.700 disclosures Spielberg saying I'm more inclined to believe that there's intelligent life
00:08:01.080 I think mathematically speaking the likelihood of intelligent life existing in the universe
00:08:05.680 is a guarantee why we exist now are we the only ones I don't think that's true and even if you're
00:08:13.580 a religious individual, then you can at least acknowledge angels and demons. There is still
00:08:19.040 a perception that there are other intelligent entities that exist, whatever your view on them
00:08:23.880 may be. Now, in the end, Spielberg says this. All of this is true, he says. Maybe. Don't you
00:08:49.540 think it's kind of weird that a movie is coming out right around the time the government has been
00:08:54.860 talking about disclosure? No, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. I don't know about any predictive
00:08:59.280 programming stuff, but I got to say this. How long does it take to make a movie? A couple of years?
00:09:05.660 Trump's been Trump's been in office for a year and a half, not even a year and a half, a year
00:09:09.860 and four months. I mean, how much of that is actually getting work done? They've been talking
00:09:15.000 about releasing information on this and the movie is already ready to go? Well, it's possible. It
00:09:20.740 really is. I mean, a year and a half for Steven Spielberg has already got the money. Spielberg
00:09:24.140 goes to a studio and says, I want to make this movie. They put a script together. To be honest,
00:09:30.120 it's possible. So it may just be they are targeting a market that is plainly visible.
00:09:36.480 This alien talk goes viral. People want to know about it. And people are demanding that the
00:09:41.060 government release information on UFOs and aliens. Spielberg says, guys, it's a free ticket.
00:09:48.000 We can easily make this movie, crank out a garbage script, call it Disclosure Day, and
00:09:52.280 we're good. And thus, they do a marketing campaign like this, hoping that people like me
00:09:59.060 will talk about articles like this, and it'll go viral. And guess what? Now you've heard of
00:10:04.920 the new movie that's coming out, Disclosure Day, and they're going to make a lot of money on it.
00:10:09.680 How about them apples?
00:10:11.240 But let's read a little bit.
00:10:12.860 They say Spielberg has previously tackled the idea of extraterrestrial life in movies like Close Encounters, The Third Kind, and E.T., War of the Worlds.
00:10:19.360 Disclosure Day is a different tone than his three previous movies as it plays more like a conspiracy thriller.
00:10:25.680 Emily Blunt, Josh O'Connor, Colin Firth, Eve Hewson, and Coleman Domingo star.
00:10:31.840 I'm interested.
00:10:33.500 I'm going to go see it maybe.
00:10:35.240 I'm not going to see Mandalorian Grogu, but this looks fun.
00:10:38.520 A conspiracy thriller seems like a fun show.
00:10:41.260 The final trailer is added to the ranks of passionate fans
00:10:43.800 who believe Spielberg will reveal the existence of aliens.
00:10:46.180 It's just, they're making money, guys.
00:10:48.340 Toward the end of the footage, he says,
00:10:49.360 I used to say to myself,
00:10:50.300 wouldn't it be wonder if all this turned to be true?
00:10:52.280 I'm now thinking,
00:10:53.520 wouldn't it be wonderful for people to know?
00:10:56.400 After a quick cut to a clip of the movie,
00:10:57.920 he then reappears and says,
00:10:59.140 all of this is true.
00:11:00.860 Further adding speculation,
00:11:02.000 the director knows the truth about aliens.
00:11:03.980 The final moment also gives a glimpse
00:11:05.460 of one of the aliens featured in the movie.
00:11:07.420 Does Spielberg know about the existence of aliens?
00:11:09.820 Many fans have taken a Reddit to discuss their theories.
00:11:12.280 Have they?
00:11:13.300 Have they?
00:11:13.980 Do we really value Reddit?
00:11:16.740 Similarities between Disclosure Day and .gov videos.
00:11:20.580 Right, guys.
00:11:23.180 You know, I know everybody would much prefer for me to say things like aliens are real.
00:11:27.180 But I'm going to be the skeptic here and say, yeah, maybe.
00:11:30.080 I think it's reasonable to leave room open.
00:11:32.300 but they're making a product for you to purchase, exploiting your interest in this topic.
00:11:40.620 That's it.
00:11:41.060 The government releases footage you want to know, and they said, let's sell tickets to
00:11:45.260 the show, and you're going to buy it, and I'm going to buy it, and we're going to laugh,
00:11:48.880 we're going to cry, we're going to eat popcorn, and we're going to buy it.
00:11:50.740 That was a fun movie.
00:11:53.040 However, there's another nefarious conspiracy, something around the idea of information vaccination.
00:11:59.580 remember men in black when i was a kid and men in black came out i didn't know nothing about no men
00:12:05.780 in black i didn't know nothing it was just a fun goofy alien government movie and in the movie
00:12:11.380 agents k and j are you know it's a buddy cop alien film and they can erase your memory you know all
00:12:18.760 stuff and uh i just thought it was a movie and then when i got older and got was was more online
00:12:25.640 and reading about the stuff, I learned it's a movie based on an actual conspiracy theory.
00:12:30.740 For a long time, there's been a theory about when people have UFO sightings,
00:12:35.280 men wearing all black and sunglasses show up and tell them you didn't see anything.
00:12:40.620 This conspiracy theory led people to be like, let's make a movie about it.
00:12:45.140 That sounds fun.
00:12:46.120 So they made a movie.
00:12:47.180 But here's the funny thing.
00:12:48.480 The conspiracy theory now is that the movie Men in Black was made
00:12:52.280 so that in the event anyone actually would encounter
00:12:55.360 a government agent wearing all black, 0.76
00:12:58.040 you know, men in black is probably a silly way to describe it 0.78
00:13:00.900 because of the movie.
00:13:02.320 If you said, I saw a UFO and then the sky showed up
00:13:05.440 in an all black suit with sunglasses 0.92
00:13:06.420 and told me I didn't see anything and just shut up,
00:13:08.460 they're gonna be like, oh my God, dude, that was a movie.
00:13:10.640 Did you dream this?
00:13:12.000 That's literally the movie, dude, it's made up.
00:13:15.020 And you're sitting there being like,
00:13:16.260 no, that's called information vaccination.
00:13:18.320 The purpose is you put out a movie like this
00:13:20.880 And then if anyone actually experiences it, people are going to go, bro, you're talking
00:13:23.940 about a movie like that never happened.
00:13:26.960 That's that's the conspiracy theory here.
00:13:30.120 Well, boys, it gets fun.
00:13:32.840 They they make reference to this R slash UFOs whistleblower six months ago.
00:13:40.080 This is it's annoying.
00:13:42.520 I'm sorry.
00:13:43.200 It's annoying.
00:13:43.740 I know a lot of people like read this and they're all excited, but it's annoying because
00:13:47.860 obvious science fiction.
00:13:49.480 It's I'm sorry.
00:13:50.760 It's just science fiction.
00:13:52.740 I've been around many countries and world leaders, and I can tell you things are much
00:13:57.380 more mundane.
00:13:58.420 If you want to write something to convince people about alien disclosure, claiming you're
00:14:04.820 a whistleblower, you've got to make it more mundane.
00:14:09.960 You know?
00:14:10.840 You know, what's funny is I wonder what people think about the goings on here at the Tim
00:14:17.220 cast studio. Because I'll tell you, I wake up, I come in. Usually it's just Brian who's working.
00:14:23.140 No one else is here. There are some people, you know, we got a couple different buildings.
00:14:26.980 I start recording and that's about it. It's very quiet. It's not very noisy.
00:14:33.400 No crazy shenanigans. There's no jetpacks. You know, there's no deep conversations.
00:14:38.960 But people want to live in this world. So let me tell you this. Here's a good one. I had a meeting
00:14:43.800 with Netanyahu. Sure did. That was last year. I got invited to a, was it last year? When was it?
00:14:51.120 Yeah, it was like, it was a while ago, wasn't it? Man, time flies, huh? And it was at the Blair
00:14:55.780 House, which is on the White House grounds. It's the guest house for the White House. And a bunch
00:14:59.780 of journalists and other personalities, social media influencers were invited. And basically,
00:15:04.520 Netanyahu talked about the judiciary. Guys, I know it's like Chatham House rules. Chatham House
00:15:10.480 rules means you can say, here's exactly what was said, but you're not supposed to attribute things
00:15:14.080 to other people. He talked about, like, Socrates and, like, the courts and stuff. It was very
00:15:19.760 boring. I can't stand these people. Sorry, guys. It's just true. And then they advocated for the 0.87
00:15:23.840 U.S. getting involved in a war with Iran, to which everybody rolled their eyes, and half the people
00:15:27.180 were like, no, and half were like, whatever you say, Israel, and it was like, whatever.
00:15:31.860 Now, the thing is, in the minds of the average person, they have this grandiose vision of what
00:15:37.980 must have really happened. They think that I was handed a check for $7,000 or that I was recruited
00:15:44.260 or just, guys, I'm going to tell you, I walked into a room. They said, you guys can have a seat
00:15:48.860 here. Netanyahu was very boring. Like, I'm not trying to be a dick. Maybe I can be, I don't know.
00:15:55.400 Whatever your opinion is on the guy. He talked about like Socrates. I was kind of just sitting
00:16:00.600 there being like, what am I doing here? You know, then he talked about the threat of a nuclear Iran.
00:16:05.420 Everybody kind of argued and grumbled, and some people said, we're not concerned about it.
00:16:09.660 It was no more exciting than listening to like any other podcast.
00:16:14.540 You know, it was like this.
00:16:17.180 But there are people who believe it's like the craziest thing imaginable.
00:16:20.480 When I see a story like this, here's the point.
00:16:23.380 This is too extraordinary to be true.
00:16:25.860 Sorry, the bigger the story, the bigger the lie.
00:16:27.960 Let me give you an example of what this, what this disclosure, this whistleblower is saying,
00:16:31.460 unverified whistleblower.
00:16:33.600 They say, call me Ray.
00:16:34.700 It's not my real name.
00:16:35.440 I worked in the military.
00:16:36.260 I was a radar tech.
00:16:37.400 I worked on electro-optics and lasers.
00:16:40.280 For a long time, I was, you know, given views of what was going on.
00:16:45.140 The onion, the layers only go so deep, and I only got access to some of them.
00:16:48.340 But here's what happened.
00:16:50.240 Earth was noticed two billion years ago by the council, a group of aliens who track life
00:16:55.520 in the universe.
00:16:56.500 Two billion years ago, they picked up biosignatures and sent probes.
00:17:00.000 Then they built underground, I'm sorry, underwater facilities because underwater temperature and 0.96
00:17:05.600 pressure doesn't change and blah, blah, blah, which is dumb. It doesn't make sense. The moon 0.97
00:17:08.780 would make more sense. The reason for the base underwater is simple. The bottom of the ocean
00:17:12.420 does not care about ice ages, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then early humans are doing interesting
00:17:17.400 things. So they came to track us. My favorite part is the arids. Here you go. So 65,000 humans
00:17:23.500 were abducted from earth and relocated to a new planet called 82 Eridani. Those people are called
00:17:28.880 Arids. Hey, Arids, that's the alien rock species from Project Hail Mary. Maybe someone read the 1.00
00:17:35.120 book, I guess, or maybe the movie is predictive programming, or maybe they're poisoning the well
00:17:41.520 information vaccination. So when someone sees this story about Aridani humans, they go, wait,
00:17:47.400 wait, what? Arids was the name of the rock thing from the Project Hail Mary book. It's an old book,
00:17:52.680 guys. Jeez. Who knows? What I will say is this. It goes on to say that arids were given a
00:18:00.140 controlled paradise. Humans developed with alien technology. And then they're much more advanced 0.99
00:18:05.680 than the 40s and 50s, like Earth is the control. How do humans react on a natural environment with
00:18:10.280 scarce resources? How do they react with tons of resources? Blah, blah, blah. Then the crash
00:18:15.080 incidents happen and yada, yada, yada. And now we're getting close to Disclosure Day. And they're
00:18:19.940 going to reveal the existence of the council and all that and this and otherwise. Okay, sure.
00:18:24.100 What are they saying? It's like a kiddie pool. It's a fun read, but I'm just going to say this.
00:18:29.740 It's too extraordinary. The reality of life is much more mundane. It just is. Guys, I have met
00:18:37.600 with ambassadors. I have met the president himself, and it's kind of fascinating just how
00:18:43.760 boring most things are. You can go to Mar-a-Lago, okay? You can go. You can just go. You can walk
00:18:51.200 in, and they'll say, howdy. I did it. And if the president is there, you can still just walk in.
00:18:57.100 It's the craziest thing. Trump had a meeting. We were there, and so we walked up. I went and got
00:19:03.440 a suit. Hey, look at me. I walked in, and there was the president. Now, it's a little bit easier.
00:19:09.360 I get it because I know a lot of the people that work with the president. Shout out to Alex
00:19:12.620 Sprucewitz, who was like, Mr. President, I want to introduce you to Tim Poole. He's a big podcaster.
00:19:16.880 And then Trump shook my hand and he said, well, of course he is. Look at his face, you know,
00:19:21.080 and Trump's a charmer. My point ultimately is, though, we just walked in the front door.
00:19:26.620 Mar-a-Lago is accessible. Trump wants it to be that way. Now, if you're disheveled and looking
00:19:30.620 weird, then I ask you who you are and what you're doing. But it's a it's a semi private. It's a
00:19:35.320 private club. But this means there's a lot of people that come and go and you can go to the
00:19:38.540 gift shop, and Trump's a charmer. He's got a secret service. My point is, it was all just so
00:19:44.400 much more mundane than people want it to be. Everyone's always trying to make it seem like
00:19:50.500 their life is more exciting than it really is. That's what I see with a story like this.
00:19:54.640 It's just too fantastic. You could tone it down a little bit, but that's the idea of predictive
00:20:01.560 programming. If this story really were true, they say that the bugs are coming. Other aliens want to
00:20:09.620 wipe out humanity or something. And it's like, okay, dude, like, you know, sorry. It's just,
00:20:15.440 it's usually much more mundane than that. So I've had a million and one conversations about aliens.
00:20:23.300 And, you know, I think one of the challenges that people have is their inability to think
00:20:30.020 outside the box. And so these conversations are usually like, I don't think aliens would come
00:20:35.740 here because if they had the technology to travel faster than the speed of light, why would they
00:20:39.660 bother with us? And it's like, let me pause real quick. Let me pause real quick. You've made a
00:20:45.980 handful of assumptions there. We don't know that traveling faster than light is the means by which
00:20:52.560 people are, life would be spacefaring. I think it's reasonable to believe that there are elements
00:20:59.080 of physics and energy spectrums we are not capable of comprehending or perceiving. In fact,
00:21:05.760 the human can't perceive the charged electromagnetic spectrum for the most part. We can see the visible
00:21:10.700 spectrum. Yet we know, based on cell technology and radio waves, that there are other spectrums
00:21:16.720 of energy that transmit beyond our perception. We know that gravity, we believe, is a function
00:21:24.000 of space-time curvature, and it's hard to know exactly. We think we know. So right now, based on
00:21:30.700 a limited understanding we have of these technologies, the presumption we are making
00:21:34.100 is that in order to travel the universe, you would need some kind of warp drive. Folding space-time
00:21:40.140 wormholes, perhaps. How do you do it? Stargates, as it were. In Star Trek, they warp space-time
00:21:47.000 to create a bubble, so they're not actually moving faster than light. They're moving between space.
00:21:51.900 Here's the problem with that.
00:21:53.940 The way I view our perception of science and technology would be like going back 200 years,
00:22:01.500 going back 100 years, you know, 200 years is better.
00:22:04.920 Before trains, let's say 300.
00:22:06.860 And saying to somebody, you could travel from New York to California in five hours.
00:22:15.180 And they would say, that's impossible.
00:22:18.080 You would need a ship on a waterway with winds so strong that can't be done.
00:22:25.060 And any civilization that had the means to do it would certainly be doing other things and going other places, right?
00:22:31.400 What do they care about us?
00:22:33.120 Well, we know that doesn't make sense because we have the combustion engine and we build roads.
00:22:38.720 So you can actually just drive to California from New York in, what is it, like 36 hours, maybe two days, maybe 48.
00:22:44.700 Or you can fly in a plane.
00:22:46.700 See, back then, they could not conceive of heavier than air flight using jet engines.
00:22:51.160 So the presumption of traveling from New York to London in five hours was insane.
00:22:58.300 Insane.
00:22:58.900 We're talking about a month, a three-month long journey.
00:23:02.360 And you're like, if the winds are good, imagine saying you could travel from London to New
00:23:08.220 York in five hours.
00:23:09.080 They'd be like, what?
00:23:10.140 The winds would have to be like, you know, so insane, it would rip the ship to shreds.
00:23:15.380 It's not possible.
00:23:17.000 One of my favorite quotes ever was when the steam engine was being invented and a proposal
00:23:21.800 was made to Napoleon.
00:23:23.060 And he said, you mean to sail against the wind by letting a bonfire under the deck?
00:23:27.180 I have no time for such nonsense.
00:23:29.360 It's like, maybe it's apocryphal or whatever, but I love that quote.
00:23:32.420 He couldn't even conceive of what the guy was inventing right in front of his eyes.
00:23:36.300 So that's the first assumption.
00:23:38.920 Aliens might have a higher form of development beyond our understanding of physics, and they're
00:23:43.080 able to travel in ways we can't even conceive of.
00:23:46.180 maybe they ride light. The argument is that even if they were traveling at the speed of light,
00:23:50.500 you've got time dilation, relativistic time dilation, and then you've got the issue of
00:23:56.460 even then it takes a really long time to travel. And I'm like, maybe there's a means by which you
00:24:01.320 can travel that we have not yet discovered. There you go. That's it. The presumption that you have
00:24:07.800 to sail the oceans to get from place to place because we've not yet discovered air travel is
00:24:12.780 the easiest way to understand it. They might just be like, oh, yeah, you know, light. Aliens are
00:24:18.540 going to be like, how do we explain this to you? It's the Flarb continuum. And we go like, what's 0.97
00:24:24.360 that? It's like, man, there's an old saying that if you gave Christopher Columbus a nuclear submarine
00:24:29.960 with unlimited labor resources and materials, he would never replicate it because he doesn't
00:24:34.880 understand the fundamental principles around how a nuclear submarine operates. So for aliens,
00:24:41.960 The next assumption is they wouldn't want to bother with us.
00:24:45.840 Well, why do we bother with, you know, meerkats?
00:24:48.960 Why do we put out cameras and film them?
00:24:51.420 To study them, to learn, to understand the universe.
00:24:54.960 That's it.
00:24:55.900 And maybe the reality is with an artificial superintelligence,
00:24:58.300 you send a few probes, the probes scan us,
00:25:00.300 upload everything we do to the ASI,
00:25:02.060 and then it makes determinations.
00:25:03.500 And so I actually don't got to do anything.
00:25:05.060 And you're right, they really don't care about us.
00:25:06.900 They're just collecting information.
00:25:08.900 Truth be told, I don't know.
00:25:10.060 But I would also say that the idea that the intergalactic species operate like standard, you know, inter, like, I don't know how you describe it.
00:25:25.100 Earth is fractured in its authority.
00:25:28.960 We have different countries fighting for different reasons.
00:25:31.600 The idea that the universe, like in Star Trek, how you've got the Romulans versus the Klingons and the Federation and the Dominion comes, I also think that's rudimentary.
00:25:40.060 The universe may not function that way.
00:25:42.240 In the event that intelligent life
00:25:43.860 encounters other intelligent life,
00:25:45.820 I have to imagine
00:25:47.560 they're not going to be all that interested
00:25:49.780 in war and conflict.
00:25:51.640 Why?
00:25:53.720 Resources in the universe are not scarce.
00:25:56.440 Seriously.
00:25:57.400 Class M planets are actually fairly rare,
00:25:59.400 but there's many that are empty.
00:26:01.360 And if you really did have the means
00:26:02.540 to travel thousands of light years
00:26:04.520 very quickly through whatever technology
00:26:05.920 you might be able to have,
00:26:07.780 you'd just be like,
00:26:08.580 why go bother that planet? That's it. By the time we get in outer space, you know what? Let me put
00:26:14.660 it like this. Birds are not aggressive. They're not. A bird can be sometimes, depending on the
00:26:21.580 threat against their babies. But for the most part, birds are not aggressive. Badgers are
00:26:26.820 extremely aggressive. Why? Burrowing animals tend to be more aggressive than animals that have easy
00:26:34.820 means of escape. Birds can move in three dimensions with flight. So typically what
00:26:41.360 happens is they avoid the flight. It is less energy intensive. It is easier to fly away
00:26:46.880 than get into a fight. Badgers don't have a choice. They're in a burrow. There's only one
00:26:52.120 way out. And if they're trapped, it's fight or die. In outer space, it's not going to be a trap.
00:26:59.760 It's an expanse.
00:27:01.620 This likely insinuates that based on what we know of life on Earth,
00:27:05.840 life we encounter in outer space may very well just not be all that interested in conflict
00:27:11.740 as it's a waste of energy and a detriment to whatever their passion or interests really are.
00:27:16.860 In the end, it may just be a boring council, in which case the theory could go like this.
00:27:22.480 Why are aliens interested in humans?
00:27:24.900 Well, they make an interesting point in that, you know, little sci-fi story.
00:27:28.660 to understand if we are violent for the sake of violence. And I don't think humans are.
00:27:35.380 I think that if humans ever become spacefaring to a great degree, I mean, Elon's working on it,
00:27:39.860 we're largely going to mind our own business. We are driven towards our own desires, not
00:27:44.460 conflict for the sake of conflict. Conflict arises due to competition for resources.
00:27:49.320 If we were in outer space and came across aliens, we'd be like, hey, can you help us?
00:27:53.540 You got anything to help us out with? And if they say no, we'd be like, I guess we're going
00:27:57.980 to keep doing our thing. Why waste energy and resources interacting with something that's not
00:28:02.120 interacting with us? Doesn't make any sense. And if they came to fight us, like, what would they
00:28:08.720 gain from it? Well, slaves, I guess. But there's better slaves than humans. Robots could do the
00:28:13.980 job. That's all in all, my friends. I don't know why we would assign, ascribe human passions based
00:28:23.680 on limited technology to spacefaring peoples. I imagine if humans go to the stars, we're more
00:28:29.920 interested in learning about physics and time than we would be to get into a war or a conflict
00:28:37.340 or something. Now, there is one scary component, and that's the overlap in the current state of
00:28:45.620 humanity versus alien technology. So it may be true that if we were spacefaring, we wouldn't
00:28:49.800 really care about war or conflict, but we're not. We are currently in conflict with other countries,
00:28:54.760 in which case alien technology can greatly advance the cause of the United States
00:28:59.060 or Iran, China, or Russia, or whoever else, in which case that's a problem. So aliens may
00:29:06.580 actually just say, we don't want to go anywhere near that planet. It's billions of angry monkeys 0.94
00:29:11.700 fighting with each other. We go there and they get access to this technology, and then the fighting
00:29:15.900 just goes crazy, and we don't want to be involved in that. So, I suppose we will see. I will say
00:29:22.220 this, though. A couple more conspiracies to throw into the mix. Matt Gaetz claimed that there are
00:29:27.140 alien hybridization facilities across the planet that certain humans are actually hybridized to
00:29:35.520 be able to communicate with aliens and humans. I wonder. What if the aliens communicate in a way
00:29:42.360 using a spectrum we can't perceive? What if they're interdimensional and your rudimentary
00:29:48.920 human can't actually see them? So they hybridize some humans who can perceive beyond the veil to
00:29:54.620 communicate with these interdimensional beings? I wonder. Whistleblower claims CIA used DNA data
00:30:01.540 from Ancestry and 23andMe customers in search of aliens. Why? He says there are people with
00:30:09.800 extraterrestrial DNA in their makeup. The CIA wants to hunt them down. Interesting. Maybe,
00:30:16.980 maybe not. In the meantime, though, the real question is outside of these conspiracy theories,
00:30:21.640 why is the government pushing this disclosure stuff? Why are so many talking about it? What
00:30:26.700 is the real motive? Is it to trick us or is it that they are slowly revealing more because
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