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00:01:00.420 Welcome back to The Culture War. 0.84

00:01:02.320 I am your host, Tate Brown here, holding it down,

00:01:04.520 and I am very happy to be back with you guys today

00:01:06.540 for this very special installation of The Culture War.

00:01:10.080 I have a fantastic interview with the great Dr. Charles Cornish Dale,

00:01:14.540 better known as the raw egg nationalist.

00:01:16.660 He has a new book out, The Last Man, Liberalism, and the Death of Masculinity.

00:01:20.420 And I was reading this book, and there's really a lot going on in there.

00:01:24.320 He breaks down specifically the testosterone crisis that we have here in the United States, how testosterone levels are down across the board, and this has led to really weak men.

00:01:35.680 In this book, he explores the reasons why.

00:01:38.020 Obviously, there's the chemical, I mean, the chemical situation, the xenoestrogens, all the pesticides, et cetera, et cetera, and we talk about this at length.

00:01:45.940 But also from the philosophical side, I mean, liberalism in and of itself does not really seem to facilitate masculinity.

00:01:53.140 So we get into all of that.

00:01:54.480 I bring them on.

00:01:55.120 I am very excited to have this conversation with them and present it to you guys.

00:01:58.920 So without further ado, let's get into the interview.

00:02:02.000 Charles, thank you very much for joining us today.

00:02:04.440 A lot of people are going to be familiar with who you are.

00:02:06.340 But for those who aren't, give us a quick intro.

00:02:09.040 Who are you and what do you do?

00:02:10.540 Yeah, of course.

00:02:11.240 So I was just an anonymous poster beginning in about sort of late 2019, 2020.

00:02:16.960 Became this figure called the Roar Egg Nationalist.

00:02:19.160 I published a cookbook, the Raw Egg Nationalism Cookbook, which contains raw egg and cooked egg recipes and also some pretty based law as well.

00:02:30.880 It was intended to be a way of kind of smuggling red pills actually to to the normie masses by means of a of an attractive coffee table cookbook.

00:02:40.000 um uh and then i was in a tucker carlson documentary in 2022 the end of men about

00:02:46.100 testosterone decline which is the actually the main theme of my new book that we'll get into

00:02:51.440 uh that was when i really kind of blew up uh i was doxed in 2024 so my identity was revealed

00:02:58.560 by an activist group in the uk called hope not hate uh which does that kind of thing that's their

00:03:04.020 forte uh and um i've just been continuing writing ever since uh i write for info wars i do news

00:03:13.320 reporting and opinion writing i've written for the american mind american greatness i write for

00:03:17.980 the spectator now and for some quite um some fairly mainstream publications actually now so

00:03:23.740 the the message of raw egg nationalism uh is definitely starting to break through into the

00:03:30.580 mainstream which is nice yeah absolutely and i love whenever uh hope not hate and other adjacent

00:03:36.900 organizations you know do they put all these eggs in the basket of this is surely going to end this

00:03:42.160 guy and then it seems like almost every time at a they reveal that they're a highly esteemed

00:03:47.940 academic or a massively successful businessman or both and then two uh it ends up just amplifying

00:03:54.500 them they just become bigger than ever before so i'm wondering if maybe they've learned their

00:03:58.340 lesson. I doubt they have at this point, but with that, maybe, uh, you could sort of give us, um,

00:04:03.760 I guess the, the background to this book, uh, obviously a fantastic book. I've already read it.

00:04:09.900 Um, absolutely love it, but maybe you could give a breakdown the best, the best that there we go.

00:04:15.180 Now it's in camera. Um, maybe you could give a sort of background on your intellectual journey.

00:04:20.760 I mean, obviously, you know, a lot of people are familiar with, with the work you've done on men's

00:04:25.300 health yeah um but maybe you could give sort of that background like that intellectual journey

00:04:29.300 what led you to the point where you have diagnosed obviously liberalism as um you know this pervasive

00:04:36.680 force so to speak so i mean actually like my intellectual background my university background

00:04:41.780 i have a doctorate from oxford uh in medieval history i wrote about the reformation um so that

00:04:48.440 obviously wasn't something that came out until i actually was doxed you know that i was uh that

00:04:52.620 i'm a doctor educated at oxford was at cambridge before did anthropology social anthropology um

00:04:58.500 but i mean i've got like a deep background in health and fitness i was a martial arts

00:05:03.080 instructor as a teenager i taught kickboxing and did a bit of competition um uh so i've always

00:05:09.260 been health and fitness has always been something that matters to me and i've always understood its

00:05:12.980 importance um uh bronze age pervert actually you know a lot of people were turned on to

00:05:21.800 i think the political importance of health and fitness and hormones in particular

00:05:26.880 by bronze age pervert so he talks in bronze age mindset about hormones and these things called

00:05:33.480 xenoestrogens which are harmful chemicals that mimic the female hormone estrogen in the human

00:05:41.120 body and throw off the vital ratio between testosterone to estrogen which determines

00:05:47.220 whether you are male or female and this actually has bad effects for both men and women um those

00:05:53.980 I mean this was something that I had been writing about for some time um before I was in the Tucker

00:05:59.700 Carlson documentary and then that's when it really started to um my kind of diagnosis really started

00:06:07.100 to take shape so the Tucker Carlson documentary was called The End of Men came out in 2022 um

00:06:14.120 rfk jr was one of the main stars and i was really actually the other main star it was it was quite

00:06:20.620 you know it was quite a way to be thrown into the limelight you know to be to be one half of a of a

00:06:26.840 kind of 30 minute documentary rfk jr was the first half i was the second half um talking about uh

00:06:34.400 testosterone decline and the political implications of testosterone decline and also what can be done

00:06:40.120 about that and what will happen if if something isn't done about that so i mean one of the the

00:06:46.960 kind of central thesis of the book or one of the central theses of the book is that there is a

00:06:51.340 generational civilizational decline taking place in testosterone levels so you know this is well

00:06:58.120 substantiated in in kind of gold standard scientific studies testosterone is declining one percent

00:07:05.200 year on year and has been for decades and decades and you know that might not sound like a lot or

00:07:11.380 one percent a year but you know 25 years you're talking a quarter I mean and you can extrapolate

00:07:17.100 the trends and and end up very soon potentially in a place where actually there's very little or

00:07:23.040 no testosterone in men's bodies at all but but people actually haven't really for various different

00:07:30.860 reasons consider the political implications of what this might mean and i mean there are a number

00:07:37.280 of reasons for this uh not least of all the fact that actually you know we live in a profoundly

00:07:43.140 uh misandrist society we live in a society that is that is that actively persecutes and demonizes

00:07:53.620 men for being men uh and you know you don't need to look at a phrase like toxic masculinity right

00:08:01.440 and when you actually dig into what that means you find that it's just a description of all of

00:08:07.400 the things that men have traditionally been expected to do like be a breadwinner um physically

00:08:13.600 defend their families and their countries um compete with one another you know it's like all

00:08:19.440 kind of basic foundational male behaviors and attitudes no they're toxic so we live in this

00:08:26.840 misandrist society um uh that has labeled men problematic for being men and so i mean men's

00:08:35.920 problems don't get taken seriously and and you know generally if testosterone decline has even

00:08:41.840 been discussed at all it's been discussed as a positive thing because of course we're told

00:08:47.360 testosterone is just the aggression hormone. Testosterone is just what makes men dangerous.

00:08:53.820 And so actually, you know, it's a good thing if testosterone declines, because that means men will

00:08:58.820 be less dangerous, they'll be less aggressive, they'll be less traditionally masculine, and we

00:09:03.620 can have a progressive, more inclusive, more equal society. And that's actually the messaging that was

00:09:10.920 being used by the democrats in the 2024 election particularly at the uh at the dnc in in chicago

00:09:18.140 you know um planned parenthood turned up at the event with a mobile clinic and on one day they

00:09:26.220 offered vasectomies to male convention girls i mean it's it's insane it's so on the nose

00:09:30.820 but they actually did this you know there are all these jokes about leftists being you know 0.97

00:09:35.800 cuckolds and and you know castrated and emasculated well actually they're literally 0.85

00:09:41.720 doing it outside the dnc and then inside the convention you had you know because you have

00:09:47.220 kamala harris as the um as the presidential candidate and you have and she's supported by

00:09:53.760 tim waltz um the messaging was look actually testosterone decline is good it means men are

00:10:01.320 more likely to be like tim waltz and to be happy to take to take a kind of um a backseat role and

00:10:08.880 let women do the women do the driving you know that's what we want we want a female 1.00

00:10:13.300 female president and the only way we're going to get it is if men actually stop being so pig-headed 1.00

00:10:18.720 and masculine and if there's a biological decline that's kind of taking place well that's a good 0.94

00:10:23.680 thing because that will just that will just help us on our way so um it's uh it's an interesting

00:10:29.520 thing and i think it actually does you know it's very easy to portray it as a kind of peripheral

00:10:34.120 concern but i actually think it cuts to the heart of um the kind of crises actually political crises

00:10:42.400 uh polarization etc that we're that we're facing you know america's facing as a nation but actually

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00:12:03.940 argument at least people utilize with with immigration is like look whatever your political

00:12:08.100 issue is whatever your primary concern is you know whether you're you know you're like pro-life or

00:12:13.020 um this that and the other all these various political you know causes that people have

00:12:17.600 they say well it's downstream from immigration because immigration is what sort of creates

00:12:22.100 the the demographic reality that you have to operate in so that's how you actually like would

00:12:25.960 achieve some sort of political victories you need to have the actual like um you know constituency

00:12:30.440 to achieve that to get your party elected but it's kind of the same thing with maha and i remember a

00:12:35.660 lot of people were saying this including including yourself um when rfk you know was being included

00:12:40.820 in the cabinet and they were sort of building this mahalic program out as they were saying look this

00:12:45.500 is you need to actually facilitate the population to achieve these political victories because right

00:12:49.760 now it's an uphill battle. Part of that is because of the physiological reality that men are just not

00:12:55.800 masculine. And so it's going to be a lot more difficult to, again, facilitate political projects

00:13:00.220 that require a degree of disagreeableness or a degree of energy, for lack of a better word,

00:13:07.620 when you have a very sick, incapacitated population. And that's what's so interesting

00:13:12.000 about your book. Because Francis Fukuyama, people always talk about his end of history and The Last

00:13:19.080 man and they use that to like mock him and they're like see how naive are people in the you know in

00:13:23.800 the 90s that they believe that this was the reality but you kind of you kind of almost i

00:13:28.040 don't want to say steel man but you actually said like no there's a little more to what he was

00:13:31.560 saying there um and what you're saying is like you know it's beyond like a uh political reality you

00:13:39.240 know this last but it's actually become like again like a physiological reality like the of the last

00:13:44.680 man so i don't know maybe you could expand on that specifically again fukuyama is like

00:13:48.980 thrown around it's one of those kind of like that meme with nietzsche it's like you know nietzsche

00:13:52.600 said this oh really did you read it no i don't mean either it's like fukuyama it's like did you

00:13:57.260 read him no no neither so yeah well i mean fukuyama really yeah not enough people read fukuyama and

00:14:04.440 those who do actually don't read him i think carefully enough so he is presented as this kind

00:14:10.720 of um parody or encapsulation of liberal hubris you know oh francis fukuyama he's the guy who 0.74

00:14:17.720 thought when the berlin wall fell that history ended uh and you know nothing interesting would

00:14:22.940 ever happen again um uh and it would all be you know just a progress towards the sunny uplands of

00:14:29.820 of uh you know like the utopia and the brotherhood of man and all that kind of stuff well that isn't

00:14:35.520 really that isn't what he said at all and I mean the the title of the book is not just the end of

00:14:41.580 history it's the end of history and the last man and the final quarter of the book is actually is

00:14:48.760 a really really stinging really devastating Nietzschean critique of what liberal democracy

00:14:56.860 and what the triumph of liberal democracy in particular over all of its kind of competitor

00:15:01.800 systems does to man and what it will do to man and and you know Fukuyama says well okay

00:15:08.560 yeah liberal democracy has triumphed over communism and it's hard to imagine

00:15:13.080 that a better more functional political system will now turn up but it doesn't satisfy

00:15:21.840 fundamental um desires and aims and goals of men and it and it forces you to live a kind of um

00:15:32.920 kind of crepuscular existence you know you're just a consumer you're just one of many millions

00:15:38.080 of people in a country and many billions of people on the planet you all have equal value

00:15:44.020 you're all accorded equal um uh sort of political rights and legal rights um you're afforded equal

00:15:51.260 opportunity or or you know so we're told and so really there isn't any horizon for grander

00:15:58.780 ambitions there's no real horizon to assert yourself uh as an individual of a of a higher

00:16:06.000 worth of a genuine higher worth different a different kind of person in a hierarchy like

00:16:11.740 there would have been in other kinds of societies throughout history so Fukuyama's really saying

00:16:16.580 like you know like there's there's a space there's something missing from liberal democracy

00:16:21.560 and i extend that um to the biological plane and i say look like not only does not only is the

00:16:30.300 triumph of liberal democracy kind of reducing our scope for self-exertion and self-development

00:16:36.960 it's also um having an effect on the hormonal level so uh i mean fukuyama couches his thesis

00:16:44.340 in terms of thimos, which is this ancient Greek term.

00:16:48.900 The ancient Greeks were very, very perceptive observers

00:16:54.220 of human motivations and human behavior,

00:16:56.720 and they had this idea that there was this thing called thimos,

00:16:59.920 which is basically something like spiritedness,

00:17:03.000 is how you would describe it.

00:17:04.960 And it's what drives men to do anything, really,

00:17:10.340 but particularly to do things like to compete, to assert themselves,

00:17:14.340 to defend their polis, the city-state, their nation, you know, their people.

00:17:20.020 And Fukuyama says, look, like, this is a case of actually, you know,

00:17:24.700 liberal democracy doesn't give outlet to certain kinds of thymus that are fundamental.

00:17:30.520 So it gives an outlet to this thing called isothymia,

00:17:34.980 which is a desire to be equal with everyone else.

00:17:37.400 We all, you know, have this desire to be, you know, not to be prejudiced against

00:17:42.260 and to be held in equal esteem that can be satisfied in a liberal democracy but

00:17:47.700 megalothymia which is a this desire to be different you want to be better you want to

00:17:52.660 be higher up in a in a hierarchy um you want to compete there's very little scope if any actually

00:18:01.240 for for real satisfying um uh expression of this of this desire this megalothymia so

00:18:08.480 i actually say look like the the behaviors that are associated with thymus are actually behaviors

00:18:15.000 that are associated with testosterone so you can turn fukuyama actually not from from just a kind

00:18:22.500 of political um explanation of what it's like to live in this kind of liberal democratic end state

00:18:28.620 into a biological argument as well and you can say actually not only is liberalism um uh curtailing

00:18:36.480 certain forms of behavior it's also curtailing the development and the expression of of our

00:18:43.440 nature as hormonal beings it is testosterone that drives men to behave in particular ways

00:18:49.820 and what you have to understand about hormones is that um they exist in a kind of feedback loop

00:18:55.680 with your behavior so you know if you have testosterone if you have high testosterone you

00:19:00.640 behave in certain ways and by behaving in those ways you reinforce the fact that you have high

00:19:05.580 testosterone and it's like a virtuous circle but if you if you don't behave in let's say like high

00:19:12.580 testosterone ways then you you go down it's like a vicious cycle and it drags you down and down and

00:19:17.540 down and if you don't if you can't express yourself as a kind of testosterone driven

00:19:22.420 man then actually you you have less testosterone and then that means that you behave in less

00:19:28.280 testosterone driven ways and you're just going down and down and down um so yeah so i mean it's

00:19:34.140 fundamentally the book, the kind of framing of the book is about Francis Fukuyama. And I'm saying,

00:19:39.540 look, like, actually, let's take this seriously. This is a very perceptive critique of what is

00:19:44.040 wrong with liberal democracy. And it's also maybe not even pessimistic enough, because you can

00:19:52.280 extend it to the biological plane. And you can say, actually, you know, it's altering our very

00:19:57.600 nature. And that's the starting point for the book, because then so you've got this idea that

00:20:03.240 maybe you know like liberal democracy might not be a high testosterone political system 0.75

00:20:08.860 uh that's kind of my contention but then you have this big problem that or potentially an even

00:20:14.980 bigger problem that actually we've created a world that is toxic we've created a world that

00:20:21.020 is literally toxic we are bathed on a daily basis whatever we do in these harmful chemicals that i

00:20:28.540 mentioned earlier zen estrogens plastic chemicals fire retardants uh food additives that are in

00:20:36.080 processed food herbicides pesticides pharmaceuticals uh medicine you know medicines

00:20:41.920 there's this kind of kink of modern of modern industrial society that all of these chemicals

00:20:48.480 that we've come to depend on and the modern world actually couldn't exist without you know i mean

00:20:52.940 try imagining the modern world without plastics um all of them actually for some reason by some

00:21:00.640 kink and i doubt packages by expedia you were made to occasionally take the hard route to the top of

00:21:07.660 the eiffel tower we were made to easily bundle your trip expedia made to travel

00:21:14.420 i don't think it's design it couldn't have been design um they encourage or mimic estrogen in the

00:21:24.200 human body and so there's this kind of political let's say social cultural assault on masculinity

00:21:31.300 and testosterone but then there's this also this environmental chemical assault on our bodies as

00:21:38.020 well and it really is it's like a kind of two-pronged attack and it really it makes modern

00:21:43.620 life fundamentally hostile to testosterone and masculinity and so that's what i'm really it's a

00:21:49.600 kind of long-winded explanation but that's really what i'm what i'm trying to get at with the book

00:21:54.240 is that not only do we live in a political system that's hostile to testosterone we live uh in a

00:22:00.720 chemical environment that is also hostile to testosterone and so we're in big trouble yeah

00:22:06.700 yeah i mean it's so interesting there's a lot of different directions we could go here i mean i

00:22:10.520 guess one question that jumps out to me and you and you obviously you went into this in the book

00:22:16.320 but what is the philosophical undercurrent that connects because you said it's a double-pronged

00:22:22.160 attack that connects the environmental um assault with the political assault on masculinity because

00:22:28.820 like okay it's two-pronged but you know the parties involved do share a philosophy to some

00:22:34.900 degree i mean the evidence for this is you know you don't have to look past at monsanto to see

00:22:39.160 they probably are throwing pride flags up and this that and the other so could you maybe identify

00:22:43.960 and again you talked about in the book but maybe identify that philosophical undercurrent that

00:22:47.940 connects the two prongs i mean one of the things that i often say and it might come across as being

00:22:53.760 a bit kind of facetious or even even kind of fatuous is like if all of these chemicals that

00:23:00.100 we're exposed to on a daily basis these harmful chemicals these estrogenic chemicals if they had 0.71

00:23:05.200 the opposite effect if they were androgenic if they if they promoted testosterone and

00:23:12.440 masculinization uh if they made men more muscular more assertive competitive more likely to you know

00:23:21.000 form groups to pursue their goals political goals social goals whatever they made men more more

00:23:26.980 motivated i have absolutely no doubt that governments around the world would have banded

00:23:31.980 together to clean up the environment very quickly right um but because these chemicals have the

00:23:39.720 opposite effect because they have this kind of suppressant effect on masculinity and they

00:23:44.420 they make men less motivated they make men put on weight they make them have less libido

00:23:49.920 they make them more liable to like you know sit around and be a consumer than to be like an active

00:23:55.480 producer of culture and values um nothing gets done i mean yeah there are a lot there are lots

00:24:05.120 of problems with the with the way that we the way that we think and you know you could call that a

00:24:10.060 philosophy or whatever i mean one of the things that is a that is a big problem is that we take

00:24:14.800 this very very lax attitude to the safety of novel chemicals that we create so this is one of the

00:24:22.080 reasons why you know all of these chemicals again and again and again turn out to be harmful

00:24:26.760 is because the attitude whether you're talking about the fda regulating food additives or the

00:24:32.560 epa regulating pesticides and herbicides um they take this attitude that actually you know we only

00:24:39.280 need to do minimal safety testing you know and actually maybe we can even let the corporations

00:24:43.760 that make these um chemicals do the testing themselves and so that's what happens with the

00:24:49.840 fda with their generally recognized as safe um uh loophole is that since the 1950s food

00:24:57.720 manufacturers have actually been able to create new food additives test them themselves and then

00:25:05.820 introduce them to the food supply without even telling the fda that that's what they've done

00:25:10.940 so nobody and nobody in the in the us actually knows how many food additives there are in the

00:25:17.740 food supply it's just it's just guesstimates so people will say uh there are 10 000 food additives

00:25:23.440 in the food supply uh in the eu by comparison they know exactly how many it's some it's around

00:25:29.220 2000 but like you know they know they actually know how many there are and that is one of the

00:25:33.800 reasons why food is better in the eu you have some of the same problems a lot of the same problems

00:25:40.060 where you've still got harmful additives uh and you've still got herbicides and pesticides and

00:25:44.900 stuff but nevertheless i mean it's a significantly it's a significantly better place to eat food

00:25:52.200 than the u.s in fact the u.s is probably one of the worst places in the world to eat industrially

00:25:56.640 produced food um so there's just this this crazy kind of attitude this crazy kind of lax attitude

00:26:03.060 where you actually you basically let corporations run wild um uh in the name of profit and it is in

00:26:11.580 the name of profit and unfortunately you know the the regulatory institutions um not only have

00:26:17.560 these loopholes but they're also corrupt in other ways you know corporations end up um actually

00:26:24.060 putting friendly people on the board of the fda uh in the epa you know there's like there's a

00:26:30.160 revolving door between business and uh the regulators that are and industries and the

00:26:36.360 regulators that are supposed to regulate them uh and these you know these are all legitimate

00:26:40.800 targets um the uh rfk junior has identified you know as part of the make america healthier game

00:26:47.200 movement he's like you know we need to end corporate capture of the regulators and you

00:26:52.420 know we also need to do something about the way that we um regulate uh chemicals and how they're

00:26:58.680 licensed for safety etc so there's kind of there are different kind of philosophies at work and i

00:27:04.020 mean whether there is a whether there is a philosophy that's like okay we can make people

00:27:09.660 easier to control there's definitely uh that's definitely i think at least the side effect

00:27:17.080 of this prioritization actually of corporate profit at the expense of good science and the uh

00:27:26.580 the greater good of the public well i mean because it's interesting because just going back out it's

00:27:32.760 like the macro the big view with liberalism at large it's almost it seems like at the moment

00:27:38.340 it's almost impossible to capitulate it i mean my my case for this is you look at south africa

00:27:42.780 yeah this is a country that should have collapsed 20 years ago by every metric it's a failed state

00:27:47.260 yet they still have elections for the most part they still have like government institutions

00:27:51.620 albeit like falling apart but they still exist and any other moment in history this would have

00:27:56.820 been like a emperor's no clothes moment it would have just completely collapsed but you know there's

00:28:00.860 still a government and there's bureaucrats that still still show up to work that is like a liberal

00:28:05.200 democracy and again it just everyone's waiting for it to you know balkanize and shatter in a million

00:28:09.440 pieces and it just hasn't happened yet and that kind of like goes to the point of this liberal

00:28:14.200 democracy system is just really rigid it's a really rigid system and i guess that goes to

00:28:20.920 the conversation that we're having you here domestically of like you know what donald trump

00:28:25.340 is up against really is almost insurmountable in a lot of ways so it's like you know some people

00:28:30.820 are very frustrated and rightfully so but when you look at specifically this like leviathan that is

00:28:36.300 liberal democracy you realize how hard it is to truly penetrate i mean look what rfk is up against

00:28:40.740 the like court injunctions on uh on actions that are like fully within the realm of the fda to be

00:28:48.500 making and like that never happened to the biden you know led fda never happened to the obama led

00:28:52.860 fda so it's just completely bizarre in the hhs by extension um it's just completely just i mean

00:28:59.480 to your point where you said, look, if these pesticides and whatnot and these chemicals

00:29:05.540 were causing a renaissance of testosterone, then there would be conversations around banning

00:29:10.740 it. But when it's the opposite, it's not a problem whatsoever. So that's, I guess, my

00:29:15.780 contention or my frustration with liberal democracies. It just feels like it's almost

00:29:19.380 impossible to capitulate. And even when you have these Napoleonic-like figures like Donald

00:29:24.300 Trump, who I truly believe is a once-in-a-generation-like figure, I think the greatest man since

00:29:29.260 Napoleon. It's almost impossible for him to operate at like that Napoleonic figure because

00:29:35.880 of just how rigid this system is and how impossible it seems for it to like really bend and break

00:29:42.320 apart. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're really seeing, I think, the hidden strengths of liberalism. I

00:29:50.900 mean, it's very easy, I think, to present liberalism and to present leftists as well, 0.97

00:29:57.160 actually as weak and pathetic and you know like you can look at the antifa mug shots from portland 0.99

00:30:03.920 oregon from 2020 and it's like yeah these people are disgusting i mean they are like hideous hideous 0.99

00:30:09.240 individuals and malformed and you know whatever the bar scene from star wars yeah exactly yeah 0.94

00:30:15.920 it's the tatooine cantina but um but they have but they have a real strength they do have a real

00:30:22.940 strength they have strength in depth um uh they control the system and and yeah like you say i

00:30:31.520 mean you all of a sudden when you try and do something when you actually try and move the

00:30:37.160 needle that you you know you're attacked from multiple sides all at once so i mean it was it

00:30:43.920 was very very noticeable you know when trump started when doge started dismantling us aid

00:30:49.360 yeah look at what happened look at what happened i mean you had all of a sudden you have spontaneous

00:30:55.880 protests you know like you've got this whole kind of paramilitary organization that gets people on

00:31:01.720 the ground protesting and then you have um journalists for the for the wall street journal

00:31:07.480 doxing members in fact and it was actually a journalist who tried to dox me it was a woman 1.00

00:31:12.380 called katherine long who has very obvious deep state connections you know she she doxes marco

00:31:18.440 Um, uh, you know, so you've got like this intimidation campaign from the media arm, you've got grassroots protests, you've got judicial, um, uh, pushback as well. You know, you've got judges issuing these nationwide injunctions and, and halt orders and all this kind of stuff.

00:31:36.660 And it's like, whichever way you try and turn, you're presented with what appears to be like an immovable and immovable object, a roadblock.

00:31:49.680 And I mean, I think we're all, in a sense, actually waiting for Trump and the Trump administration just to say, OK, we're just not going to we're just not going to take any notice of this now.

00:32:03.240 You know, like the Supreme Court issues a ban on nationwide injunctions and district court judges just issue them anyway.

00:32:15.300 It's like, yeah, the whole system is is just kind of falling apart.

00:32:19.820 You know, it's like it's like, you know, it's like Wile E.

00:32:25.760 Coyote's run off the cliff. And he just he just hasn't he just hasn't looked down yet.

00:32:31.660 but actually you know like maybe we need to look down and realize actually there isn't any ground

00:32:35.220 under our feet and and you just got to act accordingly but it's yeah it's very hhs like

00:32:42.380 hhs coming in changing the vaccine schedule and then a district court yep you know issues an

00:32:48.000 injunction and you're sitting there like are courts in charge of vaccine schedules now like

00:32:52.180 that's just an ultimate emperor has no clothes moment in my opinion well i mean when when the

00:32:57.100 supreme court struck down the nationwide injunctions then i mean justice uh katanji

00:33:02.300 jackson brown obviously was in favor of nationwide injunctions right and i think it was amy coney

00:33:07.520 barrett um wrote a scorching um yeah commentary where she was like you want to replace what you

00:33:16.620 call an imperial presidency you know president trump acting like an emperor with an imperial

00:33:21.840 judiciary um and and it's true you know they've just they've usurped the legitimate powers of

00:33:29.700 various other arms of government i mean you know we can all talk about a kind of uh balance of

00:33:35.480 powers and you know the three three branches of government whatever and it's like but okay but

00:33:40.500 whichever way you know that you're stopping the president from exercising his legit his his

00:33:46.200 legitimate powers as the commander-in-chief as the president of the united states then

00:33:51.740 you're stopping the agencies from using their legitimate powers to determine um health care

00:33:57.680 and it's it's just a nightmare and conceivably then the rest of the trump administration the

00:34:03.640 remaining two three years you know could be taken up with just trying to do stuff and being blocked

00:34:10.480 and then saying oh well we can't do anything i mean at least with the tariffs i think you know

00:34:16.000 because the tariffs controversially struck down uh by the supreme court so i mean that's again

00:34:21.640 That's a that's another reminder. You know, there actually isn't there isn't a single forum, not even the supposedly conservative Supreme Court that will actually can be relied upon to come down on the side of the administration.

00:34:39.640 And I think it was Kavanaugh wrote another scorching dissent where he said, like, look, it's obvious that the president can issue emergency tariffs.

00:34:52.760 It's obvious, you know, the the IEPA or whatever it was, the name of the act, you know, that he was the Emergency Economic Powers Act.

00:35:00.980 It lets the president issue an embargo on a country.

00:35:05.040 So the president can say, actually, we're not going to buy any goods from your country.

00:35:09.640 So like China, you know, we're not going to let in a single good from China, from China. 0.55

00:35:15.100 You know, we're not going to let in a single Huawei modem, router or, you know, whatever.

00:35:21.480 But you can't issue tariffs.

00:35:23.240 So you can have no trade with the country if the president decides, but you can't put far more reasonable, far more moderate limits on your trade.

00:35:34.520 It's just like it's it's totally crazy.

00:35:36.700 Like there's no logic to it.

00:35:38.320 um all it reveals is that actually um uh what matters is stifling and um reversing president

00:35:48.620 trump's agenda for his second term that's what matters is making sure that president trump

00:35:53.440 doesn't get his way at any cost um i mean yeah it's it's it's it's crazy and it's difficult

00:36:01.140 it's difficult to know how you're going to get around that you know packing the supreme court

00:36:07.520 with conservatives obviously doesn't work because uh amy coney barrett voted against the tariffs 0.99

00:36:12.260 um uh and she was appointed by trump uh and is apparently apparently conservative and and

00:36:19.800 apparently she can read as well so she should have been able to read the iepa but she did but

00:36:25.600 she didn't and she had a very strange interpretation of it um so it's it's really difficult to know what

00:36:31.360 what to do other than just to say well okay we're going to do something else but i mean the the

00:36:36.860 Trump administration is at least looking for other legal avenues to, you know, to issue tariffs. But

00:36:42.760 the problem is, you know, then they're going to be blocked too. You just absolutely can't rely on

00:36:48.360 anybody to uphold a neutral nonpartisan, or even a fate or and certainly not a favorable, you know,

00:36:56.260 pro conservative pro right wing interpretation of the law and the president's powers and all

00:37:03.660 these kinds of things. But I mean, the good thing, I think, at least about this is that

00:37:08.400 President Trump is finally revealing, I think, the limits of the system, the limits of what you

00:37:14.500 can do within the system, how broken the system is, and how it's been bent and reshaped to serve

00:37:22.320 just a left-wing agenda. You can be a left-wing president and do whatever you want,

00:37:27.740 but if you're a right-wing president you can't do anything um so i think it's i think it will

00:37:35.000 encourage um creative thinking and i think it will also encourage people to question actually

00:37:41.540 whether something more fundamental needs to happen whether the system really actually needs to be

00:37:47.120 needs to be overhauled i mean obviously that's that's pretty drastic because you know i mean

00:37:52.040 You know, the American system has worked pretty well for 250 years, more or less.

00:37:57.760 I mean, I think it's changed a lot in the 20th century in ways that weren't good, beginning with FDR, with the New Deal and, you know, big, big changes.

00:38:10.040 But yeah, it's very, very noticeable, the limitations of the system and what you can and can't do if you actually aren't left wing, if you don't actually, you know.

00:38:21.760 pull in the right direction yeah well and it's so interesting because also no matter how bad

00:38:28.800 things get right no matter how broken things you know around you become i mean to go back to south

00:38:34.660 africa as an example you can there's that twitter page everyone's passing around josie versus josie

00:38:39.180 it just shows you a picture of johannesburg from 20 2010 credit now and like 2010 it's like all

00:38:43.820 right it's like whatever you know it's south africa it's nice 15 years later it looks like a

00:38:47.680 you know, a bomb went off or something. And then the point of that isn't just to show you how bad

00:38:52.620 things can get. The point of that, in my opinion, my evaluation is there are still liberals in South

00:38:57.700 Africa. So no matter how bad things have gotten there, there are still people who are just 1.00

00:39:02.380 liberals. They're just committed to flattening hierarchy completely because they believe that

00:39:06.980 is the pathway to utopia. And that kind of goes back to, you know, our earlier conversation of

00:39:11.100 like, you know, what makes right wing thought, you know, distinct, but what makes right wing

00:39:15.800 thought, the philosophy that would facilitate masculinity, that would facilitate testosterone

00:39:23.400 and these sorts of things, is because it acknowledges hierarchy and then seeks to

00:39:27.720 not only uphold it, but embolden it. I mean, because that's what facilitates

00:39:32.740 human prosperity and flourishment and general fulfillment. And liberalism, I mean, you talked

00:39:38.700 about in the book, is it creates room for goals on the micro level, like personal goals, but it

00:39:44.400 doesn't facilitate the space for goals that maybe are all encompassing that are like society-wide

00:39:49.560 they could actually leave a footprint on your nation and your planet well you know it's i mean

00:39:55.600 the south african case is is very interesting i mean i had a south african girlfriend fairly

00:39:59.920 recently and her family they had just they had just come over from south africa they were dairy

00:40:04.420 farmers near johannesburg and they had had to leave south africa because it was getting so you

00:40:10.840 know so awful and i mean i can remember meeting the girl's mom and she said oh oh charlie it's

00:40:16.960 it's so nice being here and being able to get out of my car outside my house and open the door

00:40:25.080 without thinking that someone might jump on me and try and carjack me or kill me because i mean

00:40:30.400 you know she said to me like if you break down on a motorway you know on a freeway in south africa

00:40:36.020 you're dead you are dead um uh but but you know they'd had this experience where you know i mean

00:40:44.720 they were they were boas they had come over from south from from you know their ancestors had come

00:40:49.420 from holland from the low countries to south africa hundreds of years before created a a

00:40:56.540 prosperous society and then they had to leave you know after hundreds of years but but this

00:41:03.180 girl's family they could not say that they thought life was better under apartheid right they actually

00:41:10.180 could like she wouldn't she wouldn't her mother would not defend apartheid at any level at any

00:41:17.180 level which which i found very very interesting like i tried tried to press a little bit and i

00:41:21.900 was like okay yeah i'm not going to get anywhere um arguing with you for instance that actually

00:41:27.460 okay like maybe this discriminatory system actually is the only way that you can make

00:41:32.640 society like that work and yeah and in terms of let's say like a utilitarian calculus actually

00:41:39.820 everyone was better off because blacks in south africa aren't doing better now than they were 1.00

00:41:44.740 under apartheid right um yeah but what happens of course is you get the eef and and julius malema

00:41:51.400 and all of these people they can blame the whites and you know the reason why things haven't gotten

00:41:57.160 better for blacks in south africa is just because whites still have land and whites still have you 1.00

00:42:03.140 know disproportionate power and so what we need to do is we need to dispossess them and and kill them 0.99

00:42:08.420 and you know drive them off and then of course you know if south africa becomes exactly like 0.98

00:42:13.540 zimbabwe then obviously things are going to be better but um yeah it's very it's very very 0.92

00:42:18.860 interesting the south african case i think is really is really a kind of anti-accelerationist

00:42:25.260 case as well actually i think about it quite a lot when i see people talking on twitter as they

00:42:31.160 do quite loosely about oh you know and especially as they have been actually since you know the iran

00:42:37.200 strikes and and since everybody started truning out really i mean it's just it's such an awful

00:42:44.180 place to be at the moment twitter but um you know people really truning out saying oh well you know

00:42:48.780 we got to burn the whole system down i'm like look at look at south africa and see if that actually

00:42:53.940 leads to a desired outcome because you know i mean okay the demographics of south africa are

00:42:59.400 different south africa is you know a majority non-white society and it even was under under

00:43:05.120 apartheid but like you know there's a powerful case that actually things can just get worse and

00:43:11.040 worse and worse and worse and worse and worse forever you know like they don't get worse and

00:43:15.520 worse and worse and then and then you know you you're in you're in based world because there's

00:43:20.080 this inevitable revolt or something that's not that's not necessarily the case but yeah i mean

00:43:25.560 the the the hierarchy thing um the hierarchy thing and and testosterone is interesting because you

00:43:32.760 know i i talk in the book of there's a lot of scientific studies in the book you know i really

00:43:37.500 try to ground uh my argument about like the biology of politics in science because there's

00:43:43.760 actually a lot of interesting scientific work on maybe not enough but there is there is uh there's

00:43:51.000 quite a lot of scientific work on the way that testosterone affects particular attitudes so

00:43:57.760 there are studies that show for example that if you give men a dose of testosterone they actually

00:44:05.940 become more comfortable with hierarchy you know and at a very very fundamental level the difference

00:44:14.800 the fun you know the real difference between left and right concerns hierarchy the left wants to

00:44:20.420 flatten hierarchy totally you know in in every domain every axis um and the right wants to

00:44:29.480 reconstitute correct forms of hierarchy in order to have a uh you know well-functioning society

00:44:36.820 um uh that values the right things etc so like hierarchy is a fundamental difference and it

00:44:44.560 turns out that actually if you rub testosterone gel on a man's arm he's more likely to be happy

00:44:49.820 with hierarchy um than if he gets a a placebo that doesn't contain testosterone rubbed on his arm i 0.75

00:44:57.160 I mean, that's a that's a kind of one of many indications that actually, you know, like testosterone decline does favor a leftist liberal system.

00:45:09.720 And, you know, one reason why, you know, I try to make conservatives care about this kind of stuff because I think like it's not ephemeral.

00:45:19.760 Health and fitness is not ephemeral.

00:45:21.600 uh the biological changes that are taking place and have been taking place over the last 50 70

00:45:27.640 you know maybe even 100 years they're not ephemeral they are driving the kind of trends

00:45:32.820 that we're seeing at the moment and uh and the kind of political polarization um and so actually

00:45:39.540 you know we need to we need to take them seriously and it's affecting women as well i mean this is

00:45:44.160 something you know i mean i i kind of get called the the masculinist guru and stuff that vanity

00:45:50.720 fair called me that i think and like let's go yeah yeah i mean i'm fine with that like i don't

00:45:55.740 yeah i don't mind too much but like on the resume um it's on the i think it's on the back of the

00:46:02.000 it's on the back of the yeah it's on the back of the book masculinist health guru vanity yeah

00:46:06.620 but like um this is affecting women too you know like the the profound kind of hormonal changes

00:46:13.260 that are taking place in our social and political environment affect women as well and uh one of 1.00

00:46:19.280 the things that i get into in the book is hormonal contraception you know like there's that's a very

00:46:26.340 very thorny subject and it's not something that people want to talk about it's not something that

00:46:33.320 scientists are necessarily inclined to investigate because they know you know the sexual revolution

00:46:41.440 women's equality women's freedom as and and this kind of um kind of mythical conception of women

00:46:49.520 as being you know exactly the same as men um rests on i think um adequate contraception it rests on

00:46:58.580 the invention of hormonal contraception of the pill which allows women not to be slaves to uh

00:47:06.820 their menstrual cycles and the possibility of uh unwanted pregnancy um and so actually you know

00:47:13.980 talking about any of the negative effects of hormonal contraception is strongly strongly

00:47:19.180 discouraged um stigmatized even you know if you try to do it so so there's a great book called

00:47:25.380 this is your brain on birth control i think it's sarah hill it's the author that i talk about in

00:47:31.340 the book and you know it's a catalogue of um all the kind of negative effects of uh being on

00:47:38.400 hormonal birth control as a woman including the way that it affects you know like perception

00:47:43.000 moods emotions sexual preferences so there is there is good experimental data that show um

00:47:50.840 that actually women's sexual preferences change on and off the pill so well i mean we all have 1.00

00:47:55.660 kind of anecdotal evidence of this we all know someone whose kind of girlfriend has gone a bit

00:47:59.440 crazy on or off the pill or whatever but like you know i mean there's there's real like research

00:48:04.600 high quality data about the fact that women's sexual preferences change when they go on and

00:48:10.420 off the pill and that's why actually a lot of relationships end up including marriages break up

00:48:16.120 because actually you know you're on hormonal contraception and it fixes you within one

00:48:21.300 particular phase of the menstrual cycle the luteal phase um when your sexual preferences are different

00:48:27.660 from if you were fertile and could get pregnant you know women who are fertile and and and can 1.00

00:48:35.180 get pregnant favor men with higher testosterone right and that means like classically classically 0.91

00:48:42.120 masculine facial features and attributes um they find more attractive and so women who let's say

00:48:48.580 you're a woman on hormonal birth control and you know you meet a boyfriend you come off hormonal

00:48:53.040 birth control and you look at him and you're like who is this twink that i've been sharing my life

00:48:59.060 with and that happens that actually happens um yeah but there's but there's even more kind of

00:49:04.500 sinister stuff that's starting to starting to be revealed like there was a study that showed

00:49:10.280 that women on hormonal birth control a very very important part of their brain actually shrinks

00:49:16.860 so they did um mri scans of women's brains on and off hormonal birth control with control

00:49:23.580 and um they showed that hormonal birth control you shrinks a region of the um prefrontal cortex

00:49:30.640 that is uh it's called the ventromedial prefrontal cortex and it's involved in uh fear regulation and

00:49:38.600 emotional processing so it's like it's a fundamental region of the brain that is involved

00:49:45.080 in executive control and emotional control right and it's and it's being shrunk by hormonal birth

00:49:50.640 control tens of millions of women are on hormonal birth control a lot of them actually beginning in

00:49:55.780 their teenage years so yeah you know there's there really is um the possibility actually i think that

00:50:02.700 hormonal birth control is is having like big aggregate effects on a societal level you know

00:50:09.780 it's shifting women's preferences it's shifting their behavior not only in terms of like the 1.00

00:50:15.000 dating market and interpersonal relationships but maybe also politically as well because you know

00:50:19.720 remember there's a lot of data now about political polarization and and so much of it seems to

00:50:26.860 suggest that actually you know it's not men who are it's not men and women who are diverging from

00:50:32.780 each other you know like men are going really far right and women are going really far left 0.98

00:50:36.920 it's that actually men are still kind of cleaving towards the center maybe getting a little bit more

00:50:41.620 right wing but it's not you know like a huge thing but then you've got women just veering off 1.00

00:50:45.980 um yeah to the left and that may actually be a function of at least on some level of the changing

00:50:53.780 hormonal environment uh we live in including the use of hormonal birth control so there's there's

00:50:59.900 so much that can be said um uh and i mean i i have to in the book you know i have to talk about it

00:51:05.960 at times in quite an impressionistic way because because it's a difficult subject to find you know

00:51:13.780 a lot of data about you know it's because because scientists a lot of scientists won't touch it

00:51:19.000 especially stuff about hormonal birth control there's more stuff about testosterone but less

00:51:23.800 about hormonal birth control but i mean i i do think it really is that is the case that actually

00:51:28.820 You know, the kind of trends that we've seen in male and female hormones kind of favor leftism and they favor the kind of the leftward swing of society in various different ways.

00:51:41.200 So it's it is something that right wingers should take seriously.

00:51:45.680 And it's one of many reasons why I think right wingers should get behind RFK Jr.

00:51:50.420 and try to protect him as much as possible and, you know, protect what he's doing.

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00:53:35.680 stores well and these are important points because you know in the conservative media

00:53:39.960 you know ecosystem whatever you want to call it sphere whatever you want to call it there's a

00:53:44.360 tendency to always dunk on men um and that men are the problem you know that's why families aren't 0.98

00:53:50.520 performing etc etc if men would just like step up yeah you got a man up yeah yeah you got a man up

00:53:55.440 scott greer talks you know and like you know parodying this type of you know conservatives

00:53:59.460 like the good man scares there's a scarcity there's all these great women just waiting for 1.00

00:54:02.900 husbands but they just can't seem to find a good man and in my experience i'm 25 i'm like these

00:54:08.080 foids i've come completely come unglued i don't know what's going on with them they're completely

00:54:13.120 out of control um they're like all over the place this isn't like your classical woman like you know 1.00

00:54:19.040 like my parents and grandparents where, you know, there's like some swooning going on and, you know,

00:54:23.520 some courting. Like they're crazy. They're actually genuinely crazy now. I've settled down. 0.82

00:54:27.920 I've found a great foid who, to your earlier point, gluten, she's a celiac disease. She's from 1.00

00:54:35.120 Britain, comes to America, gets sick all the time. And then we look it up and it's like, oh, well,

00:54:38.780 they don't have the list. Like there's a certain amount of gluten they can get away with and so

00:54:42.000 call it gluten-free. That's besides the point. But the women have gone crazy and it's the dating 1.00

00:54:47.260 market's completely insane this is to your in your book you talk about in chapter three

00:54:52.460 and then beyond um talking about like the reproduction you say this is a common topic

00:54:57.820 here at tim cast um is the birth rate issue you know and no matter where you look everyone's

00:55:03.940 diagnosing it uh you know differently you know people like a lot of people are saying it is

00:55:07.700 because the foids have gone crazy and they're messing up the dating market now men you know 1.00

00:55:11.520 chuds cannot find their foids and it's a really disastrous situation and i think there's some 1.00

00:55:15.500 truth there um but what you really dive into is the actual like chemical issue because you know

00:55:21.680 a lot of these dropping birth rates um transcend national boundaries it's not just like it's no

00:55:27.360 longer a western and like japanese issue as it's like global i mean there's headlines you know a

00:55:33.140 few months ago that india is sub-replacement um which if you're indian i could see why you wouldn't 0.99

00:55:37.580 want to procreate but like that does indicate that there's like you know seriously there's

00:55:42.640 it indicates there's like a chemical issue most likely yeah yeah i mean the the nat the natalism

00:55:48.140 issue i i i find fascinating and you know like i've spent i have um i spoke at the natalism

00:55:55.460 conference in austin twice uh in the last three years in 2024 and 2025 you know where all sorts

00:56:02.360 of people are coming together to try and address the issue of of birth rates declining birth rates

00:56:08.380 um how can you maintain a positive birth rate in a developed nation like the u.s

00:56:13.880 without mass immigration because mass immigration has been the main method of maintaining positive

00:56:21.360 birth rates in western nations for quite some time you know it's like oh okay you know well

00:56:26.680 the native population aren't um having any babies so we'll import people from you know africa 1.00

00:56:32.020 wherever who who you know habitually have nine children rather than one or two or none um but

00:56:40.040 like yeah it's difficult because you look at a nation like hungary and hungary is really the

00:56:46.080 poster child for pronatalism victor orban uh conservative you know has kind of really um

00:56:53.860 affected a sort of conservative revolution in hungary uh and one of the central one of his kind

00:57:01.220 of uh most the most famous things that he's done is to offer serious tax breaks for young people

00:57:07.780 if they have children uh you know because he he says look we don't need we don't need more people

00:57:14.900 in we don't need more babies in hungary we need more hungarian babies right so it's like we're

00:57:20.140 not going to import people to have babies for us we're going to encourage the native population

00:57:24.620 uh to have children themselves and that's a total break that's a total break with the way that even

00:57:30.680 conservative governments in europe and the west have been operating uh so he brought in all these

00:57:36.960 you know like flagship uh tax relief measures and interest-free loans and stuff and i think you know

00:57:43.740 if uh if a woman in hungary has four children she never pays tax again in her life these were brought

00:57:50.440 in i think in 2017 and the sum the sum total effect has been nothing like there's been there's

00:57:57.520 been the most modest increase in uh the birth rate in hungary still well below replacement rate

00:58:04.900 um and so it looks like no you actually you can't just throw money at people and get them to

00:58:11.760 reproduce um and i mean you can you can look back in time you can look at the roman empire you can

00:58:17.540 look at um these things called the leges ulii laws that were brought in by the first emperor augustus

00:58:23.480 you know there were similar problems in the roman empire romans weren't reproducing uh and so what

00:58:29.960 happened was you know you had this constant churn of people coming into rome into the center from

00:58:35.000 the periphery um uh and kind of you know keeping the population alive keeping rome alive and you've

00:58:42.160 got these genetic studies that show an almost like total turnover actually of the genetic

00:58:47.620 of the genetics of um uh republican to imperial robe you know like there's a fundamental change

00:58:54.520 where you get loads of people from north africa and the levant and whatever um augustus tried to

00:59:00.300 do something similar and it didn't work um so it looks like actually we've kind of got this

00:59:04.940 like trans historical case that um you just can't get people to have children if you just give them 1.00

00:59:11.280 money so so what's going on like why how do you increase the birth rate um and also why is it

00:59:17.860 decreasing so it's not it's not just that it's um economic pressures you know we all we're used

00:59:24.700 to hearing people talking about how um the dating market is very bad which it obviously is and how

00:59:31.080 the economic situation is very bad and it's hard for young people to earn enough money and to get a

00:59:36.060 you know a decent place so that they can because you know i mean you don't want to raise a family

00:59:40.240 in a dump like you want to have a stable right um a stable environment you want to have a home and

00:59:46.140 you want to have a decent income and blah blah you know all of these things yeah these are problems

00:59:50.260 like it's seriously but there's also something there's something else as well and and one aspect

00:59:55.040 of it i think is definitely biological it's these it's these very very unpleasant chemicals that are

01:00:01.160 also lowering testosterone levels and and messing with our with our hormonal balance you know they

01:00:07.000 are also driving infertility yeah they're driving sperm counts down at an even more precipitous rate

01:00:14.240 i think than testosterone so there's this prediction which which i kind of address at

01:00:20.000 length in the book called spermageddon uh by this uh made by one of the foremost reproductive health

01:00:28.540 experts in the world professor shanna swan she's done you know lots of research into sperm counts 0.98

01:00:34.740 around the world not only in the in the developed world but also the developing world and uh they're

01:00:41.360 just they're just going off a cliff and you know if you extrapolate if you extrapolate the trends

01:00:45.880 you just you know draw out the line even further it looks like by 20 i think it's 2045 or 2050

01:00:52.440 the median man will have a sperm count of zero and what that means is that one half of all men

01:00:59.200 will have no sperm whatsoever and the other half will have so few like it just doesn't make a

01:01:04.440 difference because there's nothing you can do you know if your semen contains like 13 sperm a liter 0.99

01:01:10.120 or something right so it's like you know we're in trouble we're actually on course uh for a

01:01:16.660 situation where it may be impossible to reproduce natural by natural means within a generation

01:01:21.620 and i mean the sperm count decline generally is the one that makes the headlines but the same

01:01:27.320 kind of things are happening to women's reproductive um organs as well and and their 1.00

01:01:33.080 reproductive fitness so you know i mean there's been it's kind of a meme you know like girls

01:01:38.920 talking about oh i i've got endometriosis you know girls on instagram talking about their end

01:01:44.340 their endo stories and and you know right uh polycystic ovarian syndrome and all that kind

01:01:50.500 these these kind of diseases these kind of conditions are all massively on the increase

01:01:55.660 because of among other things i mean stress and some other things but it's also these harmful

01:02:00.400 chemicals which are estrogenic and they you know they encourage uh like i say endometriosis things

01:02:07.120 like that reproductive cancers um uh so there's this kind of biological environmental thing that's

01:02:14.080 going on as well but i think there's also something spiritual happening too which kind of brings us

01:02:21.080 back to the kind of fukuyama thesis and the kind of that kind of framing and this is actually what

01:02:27.640 i talked about at the natalism conference last year in austin the second time i was there

01:02:32.960 um the bronze age pervert chimp in a state of nature never jerks off you know this this very 0.94

01:02:39.740 kind of meme um you know where where basically it's actually i mean it's very profound you know

01:02:46.080 people think it's funny and it is it is funny and that's part of the kind of power of it but

01:02:49.960 it's also very profound because i mean what what if the modern world is a prison what if the modern

01:02:55.400 world is the equivalent of a zoo right yes and we we know that more complex animals really do not

01:03:04.180 like being in zoos you know if you've been to a zoo and you've watched a tiger at the zoo um you

01:03:09.600 know it's miserable right right and but that's also true of chimpanzees and actually it has been

01:03:15.080 established that chimpanzees kind of and other primates descend into a kind of um pointless

01:03:22.020 self-abuse basically when they're in captivity uh in a way that they just don't i mean chimps do

01:03:30.400 masturbate in the wild but nothing like they do in captivity right yeah so it's like well

01:03:36.880 you know what what if we what if we are chimps in a zoo basically and yeah what does what does

01:03:44.080 that actually mean it's like do you what if there's actually nothing what if you can't really

01:03:50.500 express your nature what if you can't really be what you are um and you know the Fukuyama thesis

01:03:58.060 and which is drawn from Nietzsche points to maybe some of what what might be wrong is that you know

01:04:04.400 like we have these very narrow horizons for action oh you can be a consumer you can watch Netflix you

01:04:11.160 know every four years you get to put a cross in a box and and put your paper in the ballot box and

01:04:16.580 you know you've elected a president like these are very narrow limits for human behavior then

01:04:24.200 there are no higher goals i mean you know like making money is not a high goal making money is

01:04:30.420 not a you know i mean like in many in many ways a medieval peasant you know had far higher goals

01:04:37.480 than yeah the richest man in or one of the richest men in the world a billionaire today you know like

01:04:42.920 a medieval peasant was trying to make their way into the kingdom of god into the kingdom of heaven

01:04:48.120 at the end of their life you know like no matter how lowly their existence they were they were

01:04:53.840 looking upwards towards eternity whereas what you've actually got is you've got you know even

01:04:59.100 billionaires are just like well i just want to make loads of money and you know um just you know

01:05:04.920 live as long as possible and and all that kind of stuff but you know um when you get down even

01:05:10.920 lower than that to just like middle class people and normal people um the horizon is even more

01:05:17.020 limited and so i i it's kind of hard to put your finger on exactly what it is and uh but there is

01:05:24.880 some there is something and i think that the the failure of um the orban government and of and of

01:05:32.260 conservative groups really to to do anything about the the birth rate points to some much

01:05:38.100 more fundamental problem than economic means it's not just about money it's not just about whether

01:05:44.320 you can afford a flat with your girlfriend it's not just about it's not just about whether you

01:05:49.140 can even have a girlfriend although of course you can't have children if you don't have a

01:05:53.860 you know if you're a man and you don't have a female partner unless you know so um yeah i mean

01:06:01.200 it's a it's it's a very very interesting very multi-faceted complex problem as as you as you

01:06:08.100 would expect and i don't think there is any kind of i don't think there's any kind of easy solution

01:06:13.740 to it and then and then i certainly don't think there will be a solution to it until people start

01:06:18.220 to address it as a genuinely like a really complex problem that touches the very nature of what it

01:06:25.220 means to be a human being and why you would want to live and why you would want to reproduce in

01:06:29.560 the first place yeah i mean because to your point i mean the scope of what would be required to fix

01:06:35.540 something like this that is that existential would require like a total mobilization of like

01:06:41.580 the government i mean that's it really is of that magnitude the the issue um because i totally i

01:06:46.880 mean it's you know environmental it's social etc it's a spiritual i think to your point like

01:06:52.280 you know in a zoo we are in many ways you have chimps in a zoo i mean i backpacked africa last

01:06:58.040 year it never occurred to me once to goon while i was over there it's like it was there's too much

01:07:01.900 going on it's too exciting um and i think there's something to that like the fact that the whole

01:07:07.060 point of modern society at every level is to kid proof everything to mitigate risk in every single

01:07:12.480 way um really just indicates why people are so miserable because you actually do need

01:07:16.500 that feeling of existential like you need to feel like existential feel uh i guess for lack

01:07:23.320 a better word that um supernatural feeling like that there's something more there's something

01:07:29.220 greater this isn't just uh you know a rock that i'm spinning around on i'm not just a meat computer

01:07:33.960 piling piloting a body but like yeah i'm a soul and a body interconnected and that's something like

01:07:39.460 the ancients understood like to your point not only was the medieval peasant uh better off in

01:07:44.740 some ways you know spiritually so to speak but they just had a better like metaphysical

01:07:49.720 understanding of the world and they couldn't even read yeah yeah it's amazing occur to them

01:07:54.360 yeah yeah and it's yeah i just i think it's not something that's going to change easily and i

01:08:00.800 think that um i think that really in the meantime i think that if western governments want to wean

01:08:08.620 themselves off mass immigration which obviously they should if they want to you know if you want 0.98

01:08:12.960 to preserve your nation actually as it is instead of turning into a into an airport terminal um uh

01:08:19.560 then they're actually going to probably have to make an argument for population retrenchment.

01:08:23.980 You know, like you're actually going to have to say, well, look, if we want to preserve who we are,

01:08:29.160 we can't figure out the birth rate thing.

01:08:31.640 Then, you know, we might have to accept that the population is going to go down.

01:08:35.300 I mean, in Japan, at least until recently, then they were riding the tiger and they were like, OK, yep, yep, we're doing that.

01:08:42.300 And we're going to come up with high tech solutions to a lot of the problems that population retrenchment causes.

01:08:47.800 so you know we're going to develop um robots you know that can work in nursing homes and in other

01:08:53.740 situations in hospitality and blah blah blah like you will have to do something like that i think

01:08:59.300 um yeah and the thing is as well actually and this is something i talk about in the book like

01:09:03.480 these popular and we talked about earlier with india you know like the popular the the tfr in

01:09:10.060 pretty much like every country in the world is negative now so it's not right it's not it's not

01:09:15.200 that like um you know even even india is is touched by these by these yeah fundamentally

01:09:21.460 by this problem and china certainly and i think they've been lying in china about the population

01:09:25.400 and the birth rate for a long time um so it's not that it's not happening to them the the thing is

01:09:31.980 that there is just a standing reserve of manpower that is so much larger in the third world in the

01:09:39.860 developing world that we the western governments can just continue importing people from india

01:09:46.080 and africa and and southeast asia and wherever um until there until there isn't you know like a

01:09:52.540 native european population in their countries anymore but nevertheless the people they're

01:09:56.960 importing will also suffer from the same um right uh biological and fertility problems so it's a

01:10:04.500 it's a really really thorny problem absolutely well charles we could literally talk about this

01:10:10.540 for hours but we are running out of time here i just wanted to say thank you so much for hopping

01:10:15.960 on and this is fantastic fantastic to have you and i'm sure the audience is gonna um probably

01:10:20.640 have more questions i think than answers because there was just so many topics that we just have

01:10:24.760 to blow past but that's why i think your book would be a fantastic resource to pick up where

01:10:29.480 can people find this book and where can people find you yeah so the book is available on amazon

01:10:33.760 you can get it in hardcover kindle and audiobook formats um uh you can find me on twitter i am uh

01:10:41.580 raw egg nationalist baby gravy nine is my um my unfortunate handle uh i also have a sub stack

01:10:48.080 raweggstack.com which uh you know i i regularly write essays and health health uh stuff political

01:10:56.680 opinions all that kind of stuff uh i write for info wars at the weekend so you'll find my reporting

01:11:03.000 and opinion pieces on infowars.com.

01:11:06.040 But I mean, the best place for updates

01:11:07.800 generally is just Twitter.

01:11:09.940 You know, I post all my new content,

01:11:11.440 all the stuff on there.

01:11:12.360 So look for me there.

01:11:14.360 Awesome.

01:11:15.180 Thank you so much, Charles.

01:11:16.080 I'll catch you next time.

01:11:16.860 Yeah, pleasure, Tate.

01:11:17.800 Thank you very much for watching

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America's Testosterone Crisis ft. Raw Egg Nationalist

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