The Culture War - Tim Pool - Ann Coulter Breaks Down MAGA Divide

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00:00:57.220 Thank you so much for joining me today. I'm so happy to be with you. Obviously,

00:01:04.560 I don't even think you need any introduction, but maybe for the one or two people who just

00:01:08.880 got into politics like a month ago, you could give a quick intro of who you are and what you do.

00:01:14.220 Massive New York Times bestselling author, 13 books, most recently Resistance is Futile,

00:01:20.100 about how liberals keep attacking Trump for illegitimate reasons, driving those of us who

00:01:26.040 were even mad at him back into his camp. Instead of just attacking him for the things they ought

00:01:30.640 to be attacking him for, they're just... Anyway, before that, in Trump, we trust. And before that,

00:01:35.420 Adios America, which launched Trump's brilliant 2016 campaign. And I wish you'd get back to that.

00:01:42.860 Yeah, no kidding. Well, and you have your fantastic sub stack as well, which I think is

00:01:46.600 one of the best regions to be on everyone's list. Thank you. I have a good column going up today.

00:01:50.940 I love it. I love it. Well, I'll be on the lookout for that. Well,

00:01:53.160 I wanted to bring you in to kind of discuss what you're touching on there, which is I guess I want

00:01:58.140 to kind of reframe the conversation from like what happened two weeks ago to what what is the future

00:02:04.020 of the GOP? Because I'm looking around and everywhere I look, I'm just very honestly kind

00:02:08.700 of discouraged because, OK, Trump, you know, the divide between Trump and like, I guess you would

00:02:13.660 say, like kind of the podcasters, the commentary, very obvious. We all saw it play out. You know,

00:02:18.740 many people are not happy with the way that went down. To Steelman Trump, I mean, you had some of

00:02:24.400 them saying he should be impeached or he's crazy, you know, he needs to be 25th Amendmented and that

00:02:29.280 sort of stuff. So I can understand why he'd be upset. But you know, a lot of people also correctly

00:02:33.820 point out that, I don't know, maybe like litigating this in front of the American public during a time

00:02:38.460 in which your approval rating is going down probably isn't the best idea. Go to wallet.rumble.com,

00:02:44.480 scan the QR code. Wait, it's over there. Not there. And download the Rumble wallet. What is

00:02:49.820 it? It is a non-custodial crypto app for your phone. What that means is if you want to pay

00:02:55.680 your buddies, you want to trade some crypto or whatever, you use this app to do it. It makes

00:02:59.680 it really, really easy. Here's the thing. It's non-custodial. What does that mean? It means you

00:03:04.280 can't be banned from it. So let's say Rumble just really doesn't like you and you've got Bitcoin,

00:03:10.540 tether and tether gold on this app, they can't ban you from it. It's yours. It's your money.

00:03:15.520 It's your account. It's your address. There's nothing they can do to stop it. That's been

00:03:18.560 the play with Rumble the whole time, allowing you to operate independently from these big tech

00:03:23.680 systems, which I guarantee you are still censoring everybody. And they will come back with a vengeance

00:03:29.120 if Democrats actually win. Right now, it's widely believed that mass censorship is going on

00:03:34.480 because they want to manipulate the election. In fact, I actually got an email from the Google

00:03:39.300 ads team specifically about the elections and their policies. Yeah. Dirty games will be played.

00:03:46.600 So go to wallet.rumble.com. Pick it up. Yes. Good. Good point. Attacking your base. Great idea. 0.88

00:03:54.960 I mean, as for whether, don't worry, we're probably going to lose the midterms. He's

00:03:59.880 probably going to be impeached again. And unlikely they'll have enough votes in the Senate to remove

00:04:07.300 him, which probably wouldn't be good because that'll turn him into a martyr. Maybe Democrats

00:04:10.560 have learned that's a perfect example of resistance is futile. They went after him so hard,

00:04:14.840 so hard because they can't stop themselves. They ended up getting him reelected with the popular

00:04:24.640 vote, no less. I mean, I just think, go back to the issues you ran on. Of course, young people

00:04:31.160 and a lot of the MAGA base are disappointed. The three most important parts of the Trump agenda,

00:04:37.080 And how he remade the Republican Party was no more stupid, pointless wars, bringing manufacturing 0.99

00:04:44.600 home and not bowing down to the Chamber of Commerce crowd who just are fine with cheap 0.99

00:04:51.960 foreign labor, whether it's here or there.

00:04:54.660 And most importantly, immigration, immigration, immigration, immigration. 1.00

00:04:58.520 We're losing our country.

00:05:00.180 It's affecting, I mean, it isn't affecting apparently the very rich.

00:05:04.100 um they're getting their pools cleaned really cheap now not even a little slime on the pools

00:05:10.280 anymore um but but community after community is just is just overwhelmed by not only people who

00:05:17.300 are overwhelmingly bad for our country um they were bad for their own countries that's why their

00:05:23.600 countries failed um you have people who are not used to living with freedom they're used to

00:05:30.440 authoritarian governments being bossed around. They certainly have, I mean, even the British

00:05:35.820 don't understand our commitment to free speech. Forget about, you know, a Ugandan. And they're 1.00

00:05:42.580 bad for the communities. They aren't blending with the culture. It just seems to me, we were

00:05:48.760 talking about, the friend of mine was talking about Red Adair today, this totally cool guy who

00:05:52.960 put out the fires, really macho thing during the first Iraq war, back under first President Bush. 1.00

00:06:00.080 And I just feel like that whole spirit of our country is kind of dying or being overwhelmed by a lazy welfare recipient receiving, scamming third worlders, as we've seen with the Somalis and just the massive welfare use, the massive scams on Medicare and Medicaid. 0.99

00:06:22.140 And what was so great about our country, even when, you know, maybe technically the GDP wasn't that high, was that it was a country on the go. It was building, it was creating, it was, you know, car manual, well, starting with the pioneers conquering the West and dangerous Indian territory and drilling for oil. 1.00

00:06:44.560 when who knew if cars would come in, they'd put up gas stations, we're going to bet on cars being

00:06:49.480 the next method of transportation. You had all of these risk takers. And I mean, you do see that,

00:06:55.340 but the only place you see it now is in Silicon Valley, it seems to me, that general industry.

00:06:59.880 I asked one of my friends out there, why is it that the only innovation, the only new stuff and

00:07:06.660 power and excitement is coming out of Silicon Valley? And he said, it's because politicians

00:07:13.500 didn't quite understand it, so they didn't know how to regulate it. And, you know, that's the

00:07:18.660 country we're heading for, just stagnant, getting poorer and poorer, and Republicans will take

00:07:23.740 turns managing the decline. So yes, Trump needs to get back to, whoa, shutting down immigration

00:07:29.900 and mass deportations, finishing the wall. We built any of it. No more stupid, pointless wars.

00:07:35.860 We don't want to be the world's policeman. I don't know how many times Americans have to vote on that. 1.00

00:07:39.760 and to the extent that it's possible with robots coming in, bringing manufacturing home.

00:07:47.120 I totally agree. And, you know, this is kind of the thing with Trump is,

00:07:50.580 you know, he kind of has leeway to conduct, you know, operations, you know, spend political

00:07:55.360 capital that would be sort of unpopular with the base if he delivers, you know, bigly to use his

00:08:00.700 word on immigration. Because, I mean, to your point, everyone can kind of sense it. I've noticed

00:08:05.340 that maybe people can't quite articulate it. And this is like leftists will kind of jump on this.

00:08:09.760 and they'll be like, well, you know, he's advocating for mass deportations, but I asked

00:08:13.000 my, you know, my neighbor and they just complained about only illegal immigration or whatever.

00:08:16.220 And it's like, because everyday people can't quite articulate specifically what's going

00:08:20.900 on, but they are sensing what you're sensing, which is sort of that frontier culture, right?

00:08:25.040 That pioneering culture, you know, the culture that put a flag on the moon.

00:08:28.180 Everyone's kind of looking around and they're like, that's gone.

00:08:30.460 That died.

00:08:31.000 That died of my grandfather.

00:08:32.180 You know, like when your grandfather passes away, you go, wow, he was a certain kind of

00:08:35.540 man.

00:08:36.060 And then his descendants are a little bit different.

00:08:38.420 They're a little bit softer, a little bit gayer to use, you know, to use language and

00:08:43.100 everyone can kind of just sense it.

00:08:45.140 And again, I mean, President Trump, you know, this is the kind of thing is if he just really

00:08:49.180 and, you know, we are seeing progress, but I think people correctly understand how dire

00:08:52.940 the situation is.

00:08:54.020 It's like people are impatient.

00:08:56.520 This is why I'm not, you know, I'm hesitant.

00:08:58.680 I mean, I'm a defender of the president, but I'm hesitant to just declare, you know, pop

00:09:02.420 the champagne over immigration because it's like, no, people are desperate.

00:09:05.860 I mean, people are very impatient and they have the right to be impatient because, again, when I go to Costco, you know, it feels like I'm on some sort of like U.N. humanitarian mission.

00:09:14.260 I mean, it's unbelievable.

00:09:16.860 Yes. Yes. And I've always wondered why.

00:09:21.020 I mean, I think a lot of my ability to see what was happening with immigration as well as Stephen Miller and others is having lived in Los Angeles.

00:09:34.300 and I never understood why, you know, I'd go to a nice state like, well, this was back in 2004 0.85

00:09:42.760 before the Somalis really, really moved in in force. But back to Wisconsin, I was doing speeches 0.99

00:09:49.700 for Mitt Romney, I guess that would have been in 2012. And what was striking about Wisconsin back

00:09:58.560 and I'm sure, you know, at least a dozen other states was, it was like you were living in 1950s

00:10:04.940 America. They still had blockbusters. And okay, you guys don't understand how immigration,

00:10:10.680 mass third world immigration is going to change your world. But do you have any friends 1.00

00:10:17.120 in Minnesota where you can talk to them about the Somali surge? Do you have any friends in 0.99

00:10:22.980 Los Angeles or Texas, it completely changes the culture. And yes, of course, we can assimilate.

00:10:29.600 We're very good at assimilating, but not when they're coming in, in these multi-million

00:10:35.200 tranches of people. They create their own little ghettos within the country and they change us 1.00

00:10:41.920 instead of us changing them. I think what you say about the descendants of the pioneers 1.00

00:10:47.340 is that, you know, even people who would like to go out and create and work and would be appalled

00:10:54.140 that they or any of their descendants or relatives ever took a hand out from the government,

00:10:59.500 you start to get kind of discouraged and think, man, am I the only person not scamming the

00:11:04.680 government? And by the way, I don't think you are. So keep being honorable, freedom-loving

00:11:11.020 Americans. But yeah, after just every time the Democrats get in, they're bringing in

00:11:18.180 millions of third worlders. And I don't know, so far, Trump has technically deported only about

00:11:23.780 800,000. Well, okay, it's going to take 100 years just to get back to the status quo ante

00:11:29.400 from the end of the Biden administration. Yeah, yeah, I know. I mean, that was the

00:11:34.280 estimate from the vice president. I remember when he was stumping, he was saying 30 million

00:11:38.120 illegal immigrants. And it's like, that's again, that's the that's the number that was given to

00:11:42.120 them with, you know, the quantified you can track down that number is correct. The actual number is

00:11:47.900 probably much higher because, you know, a lot of these people that are undocumented, you know,

00:11:50.440 so to speak, I'm using that term precisely here, have no documentation, we don't know who these

00:11:54.100 people are, probably 23, 30 million more. And then in addition to that, I mean, this entire I don't

00:11:59.240 know how you feel about this, this entire wave of immigration post heart seller, we need to take a

00:12:03.460 second look at all these people. I mean, there's some people that came in and they're good, you

00:12:06.640 You know, they've assimilated, they've bought into the, you know, the American nation, you

00:12:11.160 know, they're like, I'm done. 0.94

00:12:12.580 My ties, my old country, zero.

00:12:14.840 But a lot of these people, I see it.

00:12:16.400 I mean, I lived in New York City for years.

00:12:17.740 I went to school in New York City.

00:12:19.320 I remembered, you know, to get really granular here, I remembered some of my classmates and

00:12:24.160 they would be like second, third generation immigrants from Ecuador, like Ecuador.

00:12:28.100 And, you know, their grandparents came here.

00:12:29.580 But in their Instagram bio, they would still have the Ecuadorian flag.

00:12:32.600 And I'm like, that's a little just a little indicator that says, hey, I still view myself as other.

00:12:38.320 I still view myself as outside that core American population.

00:12:41.820 And that's why I'm like, you know, everyone I think we've talked about before. 0.54

00:12:44.580 Everyone in the GOP can chess beat over illegal immigration. 0.76

00:12:48.460 Heck, most a lot of Democrats would agree with you on deporting illegal immigrants. 0.92

00:12:52.320 But the legal immigration is really what's hurting people. 0.99

00:12:54.720 Like I lived in Fort Wayne, Indiana for a little bit. 0.98

00:12:57.400 It's like there's Burmese people, people that came from Burma.

00:12:59.960 right? They came from Myanmar and they've changed a lot of these neighborhoods. They have all their 1.00

00:13:04.000 paperwork. They're good. They're not here illegally. They, they, they had official paperwork

00:13:07.740 signed. That's why the term paperwork American came, came about. And it's because these people

00:13:12.360 other themselves, like this isn't us like picking on them. This isn't like a racial thing. This is

00:13:16.600 to say, again, legal immigration is actually harming people a lot more because again, these 0.53

00:13:21.780 people can get jobs and displace you from your jobs. These people can, you know, buy homes.

00:13:25.400 These people can participate in the American economy without actually buying into the American

00:13:29.140 nation. Yes. Well, technically, Adios America was mostly about legal immigration. I can't stand

00:13:36.460 this idea that, oh, we love legal immigrants. What people are doing, I mean, Americans are nice

00:13:44.260 people and they don't want to be insulting to their neighbors who are legal immigrants. Okay,

00:13:49.580 fine. You're all really nice people, but still, when you can't say something out loud, you become

00:13:57.740 unable to think it. And you really need to think about this. Since the 1965 Immigration Act, 90%

00:14:07.160 of our legal immigrants have been from the third world. As you point out, there is no sense of 1.00

00:14:14.660 allegiance to this country. There's a beautiful quote at the beginning of my book from Justice

00:14:18.600 Brandeis at, I think it was called, Americanization Day. Yeah, that would be a hate crime today.

00:14:26.900 But I can't remember the exact quote, but he said, becoming an American is more than adopting the customs, the wardrobe, the habits of Americans.

00:14:37.780 It means loving with all your heart this country.

00:14:42.160 You are allied with this country.

00:14:44.860 And we absolutely are not getting that.

00:14:47.300 I mean, I've talked to his, you probably have people whose parents or grandparents were immigrants, you know, from Germany, from England.

00:14:58.260 And one, for example, from the side of his family from England, he asked one time, you know, something about, you know, wasn't granddad a lord?

00:15:10.360 and his parents said no we don't talk about about that here we don't have lords we don't have that

00:15:17.240 system we're living in we don't even talk about it anymore um and i've heard many similar stories

00:15:23.420 from you know immigrants from from italy and and ireland and and germany and so on

00:15:29.020 well we don't have that anymore i mean leftist groups actually say it's a hate crime

00:15:34.400 to talk about assimilating immigrants. We should be assimilating to them. Well, their cultures

00:15:40.500 are disaster zones. They really are trying to destroy this country by what makes a country 1.00

00:15:49.060 a country. It was just a landmass for, oh, who knows, 5,000 words. And yet the Indians hadn't

00:15:55.760 done much with it. It took the settlers coming here to create what is this magnificent country.

00:16:05.520 So how do you ruin it? You change who the people are, overwhelm them. You can take a beautiful, 0.96

00:16:11.920 expensive bottle of French wine. And if you pour the wine out and fill it with vinegar,

00:16:17.860 doesn't matter what the label says. What you got is a bottle of vinegar. And that's what we're

00:16:22.680 doing, and people have to get over this idea. It's weird, particularly after all of the anger,

00:16:30.680 justified anger, with college students and professors cheering on October 7th,

00:16:38.860 the October 7th Israel attack. Those are all legal immigrants. You still don't get it? 1.00

00:16:49.280 Yeah. A lot of those people were like not just born here, their parents were born here. I mean, it's like the level of of rot is quite unbelievable. And then, I mean, you touched on it. Also, what's crazy is the entire immigration system is like completely warped. It's it's it disincentivizes good people from coming here and incentivizes bad people to come here.

00:17:08.320 I mean, I think Trump had an old tweet. It was Donald Trump, an old tweet where he was kind of lambasting the fact that, you know, his, you know, I think it was Melania, you know, coming from Europe was really getting roughed up by immigration authorities. You know, her visa process is taking forever. It was like borderline impossible for a year. And I know this anecdotally from talking to a lot of my friends from Britain or Germany or people that would pretty much seamlessly immigrate, like, you know, seamlessly assimilate into the country.

00:17:30.500 um they have to jump through so many hoops to get to this country i mean it's unbelievable

00:17:35.420 takes years etc etc but then you'll meet someone that moved here from el salvador or guatemala

00:17:40.460 and it's like i don't know yeah i can just showed up and they gave me a piece of paperwork and then

00:17:43.940 like gave me a you know a bit of welfare backing and now i can live in queens and you're like what

00:17:48.980 no i've people should notice this talk to anyone any legal immigrants and it's like 0.60

00:17:58.540 um dante's inner circle of hell that they went through um often you will find i've noticed in 0.72

00:18:05.460 elections that um that's interesting everyone thought you know hispanics they're like they're 0.82

00:18:11.160 a monolithic group the way frankly black voters are oh no no no no no not only no hispanic calls

00:18:19.860 himself hispanic they call themselves as you say ecuadoran mexican puerto rican cuban they're very 0.91

00:18:26.320 proud of their specific. And the idea that, I don't know, a Dominican in New York has any

00:18:34.600 sympathy for an illegal alien Mexican, it's a fiction. It was a fiction created by the Democratic 0.93

00:18:40.780 Party and apparently believed by every Republican political consultant. But I will notice that in

00:18:47.240 areas with a lot of, that's sort of a side note, with a lot of legal immigrants, Hispanic or not, 0.67

00:18:53.420 But they're totally down with Trump's immigration program, more than you and I are because of what, number one, what they went through to become legal emitters. Number two, they left those countries for a reason. They were trying to get away from those bums and come to a successful country. If you bring all those bums in, why did they bother moving? 0.93

00:19:16.440 Right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I guess to kind of get to the kind of the kind of thing we talked 1.00

00:19:22.260 about at the top of the show, I mean, this is what freaks me out is seeing the direction the

00:19:26.100 GOP is going for two reasons is the kind of, I guess you would say more right wing side,

00:19:32.040 you know, the more, you know, I hate the term far right because, you know, there's barely anyone in

00:19:36.100 this country actually far right. I consider it the moderate middle. Yeah, I know. Exactly. I'm

00:19:41.420 like, you know, what these people are reading Spangler every day. No, no, they're not. They're

00:19:44.560 not far right like give me give me a break uh but you know these people that i guess you say are

00:19:48.980 more hard line on some of these issues um some of the ideas that they're proposing now i'm like is

00:19:53.760 this gonna be my two options where one option in in the future for the gop is like the vivek

00:19:58.540 ramaswamy where he just came out and he said like he basically reheated the ronald reagan line but

00:20:03.220 like made it even worse where he was like he he said you know an italian you know you can't just

00:20:07.560 move to italy and become an italian you can't move to france but you can become france you can move

00:20:10.320 to American and become American coming from a guy named Vivek Ramaswamy who the only thing really

00:20:15.780 truly American about him is his accent and then everything about he's like he's Hindu you know 0.55

00:20:19.560 his kids have non you know American names like everything about him is oh this guy failed to 1.00

00:20:24.500 assimilate um that's gonna be my one option could I just say I'm just very resentful over people

00:20:29.940 who are not descended from settlers informing us yeah I'm as American as you are well settle down

00:20:37.520 skippy yeah yeah welcome welcome glad to have you but knock this off about how anybody can become

00:20:43.380 an american well that's that's been the pretend policy since since 1965 and like i say if you

00:20:49.900 let them in in tiny tiny little groups um yes yes we can turn them into americans but not when you 0.73

00:20:57.920 have entire ghettos of i you probably know and actually a lot of the the arab immigrants in 0.77

00:21:04.820 in michigan came pre-1970 interestingly enough um those were the highly educated

00:21:11.200 yeah uh middle eastern immigrants we got we used to get you know doctors and scientists and it's 0.95

00:21:17.380 the post-1970 immigrants that we think of as the um potentially terroristic cab drivers no they

00:21:24.780 used to be you know slick well-dressed well-spoken that's a lot of the arab community in in michigan 1.00

00:21:31.220 And by, you know, since 1970, some of the dregs have come in. 1.00

00:21:35.300 And there are street signs in Arabic in Detroit, as we call Detroit. 1.00

00:21:41.520 Come on. 0.99

00:21:42.860 You aren't becoming an American.

00:21:44.620 You're just coming here to get the free money from our treasury.

00:21:48.300 Yeah, literally.

00:21:48.940 That's exactly what it is.

00:21:49.860 They're raiding the treasury.

00:21:51.240 And yeah, so that's like the one Republican I can pick from is that actually American

00:21:55.520 means nothing.

00:21:56.280 It's just like you.

00:21:57.020 I was debating Myra Flores on the show.

00:21:59.160 and like her entire conceptualization of what an American is, is like, they love freedom and

00:22:03.540 liberty. I'm like, that's like, and they're Christian. I'm like, or they're no, she said

00:22:06.740 religious, the religion, they love God, they love freedom, they love liberty. I'm like, that's like

00:22:10.520 90% of the world. So you're basically just dividing the world between Americans and future 0.88

00:22:14.780 Americans. Like, thank you. I can just vote for the Democrats if I want that. Yeah, thank you very 0.95

00:22:19.060 much. So that's gonna be my one option. And then the other option I have now this new emerging,

00:22:23.760 you know, based, right? We're the beast, right? You know, like, these guys are clowns. They're

00:22:28.180 like, hey, in order to effectively get back at Israel, we need to ally with the third world to 0.99

00:22:34.640 again, like, you know, to like sort of, what's the word kind of cut off our relationship with 0.77

00:22:39.580 Israel. And instead of again, sort of presenting the case why and pushing voters in that direction,

00:22:45.260 if that's like their political aim, they're like, let's ally with the third world, let's ally with

00:22:50.280 the left, because they're saying the same thing on one point, which the conclusion for that's

00:22:55.460 going to be obvious. They're just going to like not go to bat on migration. Look, you know, if

00:22:58.900 you're allied on one issue, what you really think all these, you know, you know, Mahmoud Khalil is

00:23:03.280 going to turn around and be like, yeah, we really need a tight border. That's what we really need. 0.58

00:23:07.240 Those are going to be my two options in the future. As I see it, I'm just not really seeing

00:23:10.860 anyone that's serious, like no one that's serious. And I'm not saying Trump, but Trump is like a once

00:23:16.600 in a lifetime kind of thing. Everyone's trying to be the next Trump. And it's like, no, what we

00:23:21.840 need next is someone that's serious, that's cutthroat, that like knows what to do, and that's

00:23:26.000 focused. And right now, everyone's lost focus. Everyone just wants to be entertained or placated.

00:23:31.260 And I'm just like, oh my gosh. A few things about that. For one thing, I'm so glad I am not in

00:23:35.060 these corners of the internet that you describe. I have not come across that at all. Although I

00:23:43.180 think it's rather stupid. Some Republicans are whistling past the graveyard to say, oh, 1.00

00:23:48.100 you can't believe what you there's the twitter world and the real world i heard somebody a

00:23:52.520 republican saying that on uh cnn the other day that you know the online world versus the offline

00:23:58.700 world and um well there's two ways of interpreting that is um one is the online world is everyone

00:24:05.260 under 60 yeah that's true um but it's also true that that you know most most people have jobs 0.97

00:24:14.640 um families children little league games they're not constantly posting idiotic memes so i wouldn't 0.98

00:24:22.480 be too afraid of um you know snotty little teenage boys what they post online maybe i'm the one 0.98

00:24:31.320 whistling past the graveyard here but i i think i think i'm sorry to say this but to quote ronald

00:24:38.480 reagan um you can always trust the american people by which i mean the american people

00:24:46.400 yeah we all know like what the american people are it's true yeah it's it's the uh what someone

00:24:52.780 made this point it's like be the american that the japanese think you every time you see a

00:24:56.340 depiction of like americans and like japanese media it's always like my name's jack johnson

00:25:00.640 and i have like a blonde flat top and and i was in the army it's like yes be the american the

00:25:06.120 Japanese think we are. That's great. Yeah, yeah. So, but it's so true. And I'm just like,

00:25:12.680 looking at this, and I don't know, it's just, I think, you know, whatever problems there are

00:25:17.420 with the Trump era, I agree. But I'm just looking at the post Trump GOP. And I'm quite frankly,

00:25:22.760 I'm not too excited about what's coming. The one thing I'm, sometimes I'm optimistic,

00:25:29.840 Sometimes I'm pessimistic. But the optimistic side is, I mean, one thing that Trump, thanks to my book, Adios America, has changed completely and forever is the public is now woke on the issue, as liberals would say, on the issue of immigration.

00:25:47.060 to see i i mean i was banned from fox news for adios america now they're basically reading from

00:25:55.960 it yeah elon musk every tweet could be it's often a line or a joke directly from adios america um

00:26:04.360 don't know if the book could have done it by itself but once trump read it and ran on on the

00:26:08.620 issue i don't think you can put that genie back in the bottle i agree so whatever whom ever the

00:26:14.680 next Republican candidate is. And no, no one's going to be Trump. Don't try to be Trump. You

00:26:20.620 should never try to be somebody else, whether you're a political figure, an author. Imitation

00:26:26.140 never works. But particularly in the case of someone as idiosyncratic as Donald Trump,

00:26:31.660 for good and bad, the next Republican, great Republican is not going to be

00:26:38.040 anything like Trump, as long as they're good on immigration. I would say also,

00:26:43.960 you know, really means it when he says no more pointless wars, that would be fantastic.

00:26:50.520 And yeah, I don't know. I think this war is doing a lot, a lot, a lot of damage to the

00:26:55.300 Republican Party. So I am a little worried about the next couple election cycles.

00:27:00.780 I agree. And this is where I break, you know, from a lot of, you know, more vocal opponents

00:27:04.380 of Donald Trump is, I mean, I agree. I'm still skeptical that this, I mean, I've been against

00:27:10.760 the war from day one. But in addition to that, even if I were to accept that, OK, the war is 0.88

00:27:14.800 happening, let's get the best outcome possible, which I did fall into that camp. I'm looking and 0.53

00:27:18.780 I'm like, guys, this is this is going to leave us in a worse spot than we were before for a variety

00:27:23.780 of reasons. I mean, one, you can point to the foreign policy, but also, yeah, again, the Trump

00:27:28.480 base. Now he has a lot of ground to make up on domestic issues if he even wants to sort of win

00:27:33.720 a lot of those more disaffected voters back over. And I know everyone's saying, well, the base is

00:27:38.180 still intact. You know, some polling indicates that. But again, look at the Republican and

00:27:42.860 Democrat party are both losing registered voters. Like the independent bloc of the country is

00:27:46.800 growing more and more and more. You're going to have to win those people over. And immigration

00:27:50.920 is the issue. This is why I make this point. Immigration is the issue, whether your pet issue 0.96

00:27:55.220 is foreign policy, whether it's abortion, whether it's a gay marriage, whether it's, you know,

00:27:59.280 whatever, it's all derivatives of immigration. Because if we don't have the demographic core

00:28:02.760 to elect right-wing politicians, then the rest of that doesn't matter, quite frankly.

00:28:07.000 Yes. Every issue gets easier to solve if you fix immigration. Every issue we lose on if we don't fix immigration. You know, as for these polls on the MAGA base, maybe this is fanciful, but I do wonder, I think the question should not be, are you MAGA?

00:28:27.860 But were you MAGA in 2016? Because if you're really angry and feel like you've been betrayed by Trump with this pointless war and kind of dropping the ball on the big issue, immigration, are you still calling yourself MAGA?

00:28:46.700 So it's almost like self-defining those people who are part of the cult and will support Trump if he governs like Kamala Harris would have. Yes, whatever he does, it's 3D chess. Somehow we'll pull it off. And if that's your mentality, you're going to keep calling yourself MAGA. If you're thinking, wow, this guy betrayed me, you're probably not calling yourself MAGA anymore.

00:29:09.400 Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. I mean, because, you know, there's some polling like within the Republican Party that are still like, you know, support for the war in the 80s. But I'm like, that's mostly people over 65. And if Orban's anything to go with, when you lose young right wingers, the actual projection of, you know, your future, your political future for your movement is quite grim. I mean, Orban demonstrated that if you speak to young Hungarian right wingers, they weren't too thrilled with them. And I liked Orban. I liked a lot of his policies. But there's truth of that. Like, again, you can only define yourself in what you're against for so long.

00:29:38.380 Eventually, you've got to give something like, okay, this is what I want to see in the future.

00:29:42.940 And that's what the conservative movement, I think, is just running out.

00:29:45.000 That's a whole separate conversation.

00:29:46.160 But I think the conservative movement in general is running out of steam.

00:29:48.920 Lorbon was good for his time.

00:29:51.260 I was not really sorry to see him go and couldn't figure out why Trump and Vance were so invested in this guy.

00:29:58.140 I mean, the young liberal running against him was mostly running against him on the issue of corruption.

00:30:04.460 you stay in that's why the quote Antonin Scalia this is why Lord Acton did not say power tends

00:30:11.200 to purify stay in office long enough and I gather there was a lot of corruption around Orban

00:30:17.760 but but you know alleged lefty is rock solid on immigration the one who won so I don't know I

00:30:25.620 might have voted for him too it was the same thing in Poland where like the you know the Polish

00:30:29.180 right-wing party lost power and everyone's like it's over Poland's like bend the knee to the you

00:30:32.880 know global liberal elite and then the immigration policy didn't change at all so i'm like i think

00:30:37.760 what's happening now is kind of a sort of re reshifting reorientation democrats would learn

00:30:43.260 yeah yeah absolutely well ann thank you so much for coming on we covered a lot of topics there

00:30:49.920 and uh with the conversation we were going into could take up you know hours but thank you so

00:30:54.100 much for coming on where can people find you for more um thanks for reminding me i always forget

00:30:59.700 to mention. AnnCoulter.substack.com. Great column going up today. I have a video with a very

00:31:05.540 interesting, smart person every week. They're longer form interviews, and I actually read their

00:31:11.160 books and what they have to write. So I think they're pretty great interviews. And a few other

00:31:14.720 things I send out on Substack. I love it. Well, all patriots will be reading and watching the

00:31:19.260 Culture Substack today. Thank you very much, Ann. We'll catch you next time. Thanks, Tate.

00:31:23.140 All right. That was the great Ann Coulter. Always a pleasure to have her on. And yeah,

00:31:27.200 I mean, look, if you're talking, I know there's a lot of talk right now on the, you know,

00:31:31.260 the Trump right, the Trump defenders, which I fall squarely into.

00:31:33.800 But again, people like Ann, they've been around the block.

00:31:35.700 They have the credibility.

00:31:36.860 When they're sounding the alarm on something within MAGA, you got to listen.

00:31:41.200 You really do.

00:31:41.800 I mean, I'm sorry.

00:31:42.660 You know, don't shoot the messenger.

00:31:43.780 It's just the reality of the situation.

00:31:45.700 So with that, we're going to wind this show down.

00:31:49.760 We'll be back tonight for Timcast IRL at 8 p.m.

00:31:52.520 I'll be on the show.

00:31:53.980 And we have the great Nick Sorter coming on as well.

00:31:55.400 It's going to be a great show.

00:31:55.940 follow me on x and instagram at realtapebrown come hang out 8 p.m timcast IRL and I'll see

00:32:01.980 you guys next time thank you very much for watching

The Culture War - Tim Pool - April 23, 2026

Ann Coulter Breaks Down MAGA Divide

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