The Culture War - Tim Pool


AOC DEMANDS Trump Be IMPEACHED Over Iran Strike, Thomas Massie Calls In Over Trump Post ft. Rep. Thomas Massie


Summary

AOC floats Trump Impeachment over Iran strikes, Marjorie Taylor Greene agrees with AOC, and of course, Donald Trump has called out Rep. Thomas Massey in a long-winded post on TruthSocial.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 From Axios, AOC floats Trump impeachment over Iran's strikes, saying in a shocking
00:00:07.960 declaration, one of the most high profile progressives, they say considerable inter-party
00:00:13.960 scorn has been heaped on Reps Shri Tenedar and Al Green for floating impeachment.
00:00:19.660 Drive the news, quote, the president's disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization
00:00:24.200 is a grave violation of the Constitution and congressional war powers.
00:00:27.840 He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations.
00:00:33.500 It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment more soon.
00:00:37.780 Now, surprisingly, liberals are stunned to find that they agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:00:43.960 And of course, Donald Trump has called out Thomas Massey in a long worded post on Truth
00:00:49.760 Social.
00:00:50.900 And I'll try and read this one quickly so we can get the reaction from Rhett Massey himself.
00:00:54.960 He says, Congressman Thomas Massey of Kentucky is not MAGA, even though he likes to say he
00:00:59.620 is.
00:01:00.180 Actually, MAGA doesn't want him, doesn't know him, doesn't respect him.
00:01:02.720 He's a negative force who almost always votes no, no matter how good something may be.
00:01:06.040 He's a simple-minded grandstander who thinks it's good politics for Iran to have the highest
00:01:09.080 level of nuclear weapon, while at the same time yelling death to America at every chance
00:01:12.400 they get.
00:01:13.220 Iran has killed and maimed thousands of Americans and even took over the American embassy in
00:01:16.420 Tehran under the Carter administration.
00:01:18.080 With a spectacular military success yesterday, taking the bomb right out from their hands.
00:01:21.340 And they would use it if they could.
00:01:23.380 But as usual, and despite all the praise and accolades received, this lightweight congressman
00:01:27.380 is against what was so brilliantly achieved last night in Iran.
00:01:30.600 Massey is weak, ineffective, and votes no on virtually everything put before him.
00:01:35.120 Rand Paul Jr.
00:01:36.260 No matter how good something may be, he is disrespectful to our great military and all that they stand
00:01:41.140 for.
00:01:41.740 Not even acknowledging their brilliance and bravery in yesterday's attack, which was a total
00:01:46.140 and complete win.
00:01:46.900 Again, Massey should drop his fake act and start putting America first, but he doesn't
00:01:51.420 know how to get there.
00:01:52.380 He doesn't have a clue.
00:01:53.560 He'll undoubtedly vote against the great, big, beautiful bill, even though non-passage
00:01:57.580 means a 68% tax increase for everybody, and many things far worse than that.
00:02:02.200 MAGA should drop this pathetic loser, Tom Massey, like the plague.
00:02:05.700 The good news is that we will have a wonderful American patriot running against him in the Republican
00:02:08.900 primary, and I'll be out in Kentucky campaigning really hard.
00:02:12.000 Now, MAGA is not about lazy, grandstanding, non-productive politicians, of which Thomas
00:02:17.040 Massey is definitely one.
00:02:18.640 Thank you to our incredible military for the amazing job they did last night.
00:02:22.060 It was really special.
00:02:23.820 Make America great again.
00:02:25.820 Well, to address this directly, we are going to be joined by Rep.
00:02:30.620 Massey himself, and I think his perspective on this is particularly important right now.
00:02:36.660 So let's pull up this.
00:02:38.240 We're loading the interview.
00:02:39.360 Here we are.
00:02:41.220 We have a—
00:02:41.920 We'll go with that.
00:02:42.700 Rep. Massey, can you hear me?
00:02:44.100 I can hear you.
00:02:45.500 How are you doing?
00:02:47.360 I'm hanging in here like a hair in a biscuit.
00:02:49.700 Like a hair in a biscuit.
00:02:50.540 The president just truthed a very long post about you.
00:02:55.360 Before we address that directly, I'm curious if you want to lay out your thoughts on the
00:02:59.360 Iranian strike carried out by the Trump administration.
00:03:01.400 Well, he should have come to Congress first.
00:03:06.960 When we did the first Iraq war, they came to Congress.
00:03:10.300 We debated it.
00:03:11.440 I mean, I wasn't here at the time.
00:03:12.840 I listened to it on the radio.
00:03:14.200 I remember listening to the debate about whether to go to war in Iraq.
00:03:17.900 And the Congress gave the president at the time an AUMF, and then they did the same thing
00:03:24.560 for Afghanistan.
00:03:25.860 They did the same thing for the second Iraq war.
00:03:28.640 Now, I was here in 2013 when Obama wanted to go to war in Syria, and he said, I'm going
00:03:34.440 to go to Congress.
00:03:35.720 And we were getting all geared up to vote.
00:03:37.800 I was going to vote hell no.
00:03:39.240 And they pulled the vote because they didn't want to embarrass the president.
00:03:42.740 There weren't enough votes to go to war in Syria.
00:03:44.700 So I wish the president had done the same thing here, anticipating that he might strike
00:03:50.640 Iran three or four days before he did.
00:03:54.860 Ro Khanna and I introduced a war powers resolution to require Congress to vote on it.
00:04:00.820 And we may get a vote on that as early as July 14th.
00:04:04.940 Do you believe, as AOC has stated, this is impeachment worthy?
00:04:10.560 No, impeachment isn't a serious solution.
00:04:15.360 It doesn't solve anything here.
00:04:17.520 The attack has already been done.
00:04:20.720 I'm part of a coalition that I want to keep together.
00:04:23.840 It's a coalition inside of the Republican Party, who I would include J.D. Vance and Tulsi
00:04:29.940 Gabbard in it, frankly, who joined in support of this president because we didn't want another
00:04:36.840 regime change war in the Middle East.
00:04:39.220 And so to to go off about impeachment does no good whatsoever in this circumstance.
00:04:46.580 We have tools available to us to rein this back in here in Congress.
00:04:51.220 And that's called the War Powers Act.
00:04:53.480 So that's what I'm using.
00:04:55.200 Do you think this conflict will escalate?
00:04:57.600 And if so, how far do you think it goes?
00:05:01.160 Well, that's a good question.
00:05:02.800 And the three bomb sites to stop Iran may turn into the 2025 version of 14 days to slow the
00:05:13.420 spread.
00:05:15.360 You know, you just don't know where it's going to go next.
00:05:18.020 It's really up to Iran.
00:05:19.420 Iran has as much say in this now as anybody.
00:05:22.080 And it doesn't look like the regime is being toppled by the people at the moment.
00:05:28.240 So here's my question to the president or to his advisers.
00:05:33.640 Let's say the missile defense runs out in Israel.
00:05:37.020 They run out of anti-missile defense munitions.
00:05:42.740 And Tel Aviv starts getting pummeled with the president in that circumstance, try to engage
00:05:49.460 our military in the defense of Israel.
00:05:53.020 You know, that's a that's a tough question, I think.
00:05:55.400 What if they shut down the Strait of Hormuz and raise the price of oil?
00:06:02.300 Is is this the end of it?
00:06:05.720 And I'm and I'm worried that it's not.
00:06:07.720 And what if this regime just says it just goes underground and instead of allowing weapons
00:06:14.400 inspectors into their program, just says we're going to do a completely secret program like
00:06:19.020 North Korea and you'll have no idea how far along we are.
00:06:22.480 Or what if they go buy weapons from from Russia or North Korea?
00:06:26.320 Who knows where this goes?
00:06:27.580 But we shouldn't be a co-combatant in a hot war.
00:06:31.120 To say this is not an act of war is actually very laughable.
00:06:34.940 This is a hot war.
00:06:36.620 Two nations are exchanging blows every day.
00:06:40.160 And we stepped into the middle of it.
00:06:43.020 J.D. Vance said we're not at war with Iran.
00:06:45.240 We're at war with Iran's nuclear program.
00:06:48.560 And look, as much as I can respect, you know, J.D. Vance had been opposed to this from from
00:06:53.440 everything we've gathered.
00:06:54.460 That seems like an absurd statement to make.
00:06:57.640 You bomb a foreign country.
00:06:59.560 That's an act of war.
00:07:00.740 And you can try and claim, you know, obviously, in my opinion, that we are not at war.
00:07:05.700 But I think, as you mentioned, Iran's going to say, yes, we are.
00:07:08.740 So in that regard, you tweeted out this was not constitutional.
00:07:12.480 Can you explain why this is not constitutional?
00:07:16.000 Because it's an act of war.
00:07:17.680 And, you know, authorizing the president to wage war, not the act of waging war, but the
00:07:24.140 authorization to do it belongs to Congress.
00:07:26.360 The founding fathers put it there.
00:07:27.820 Congress doesn't pick the targets.
00:07:30.540 We don't pick the timing.
00:07:32.900 You know, I've heard arguments that say, well, you'd lose the element surprise if you go
00:07:37.580 talk to Congress and give them a briefing.
00:07:40.040 And yeah, I've got some colleagues who are absolute bozos.
00:07:43.280 I mean, they bring their purses into the briefings with their phones in them.
00:07:47.860 And then their phones start ringing.
00:07:49.360 And everybody looks at them like, all right, what are you doing?
00:07:52.900 And then they try to act like there's not a phone in their purse and it's ringing.
00:07:56.580 In any case, you can't brief Congress on everything.
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00:08:54.920 But the element of surprise can still be there, just like it was in both Iraq wars and the
00:09:01.520 Afghanistan war, and they could be briefing us.
00:09:04.700 And by the way, talk about another inconsistency here.
00:09:08.200 I saw Mike Johnson tweeted.
00:09:10.380 He said, hey, there was an imminent threat to America, and so the president had to act.
00:09:17.600 Well, why were we on recess?
00:09:19.460 By the way, I submitted my war powers resolution while we were on recess.
00:09:25.940 They do something called a pro forma session every three days where the House is open for
00:09:30.340 like five minutes, and you can jump in there and introduce legislation during those five
00:09:36.060 minutes.
00:09:36.760 And that's when I put the war powers resolution in the hopper.
00:09:39.560 But what really should have happened is Mike Johnson should have called all of us back,
00:09:43.900 and we should have all been in D.C.
00:09:45.300 receiving briefings and talking about what the next step should be.
00:09:48.900 What is your War Powers Act?
00:09:50.260 What does that do?
00:09:52.020 It's so it's a privileged resolution, which means unless Speaker Johnson does something
00:09:59.080 really funky and he could do some really funky things with the Rules Committee, unless he does
00:10:05.020 something really funky, the law requires him to bring up our resolution and have a vote
00:10:10.020 on whether this president is authorized to stay engaged in hostilities.
00:10:15.400 If my resolution succeeded, it would keep the president from going any further.
00:10:21.400 So basically, it wouldn't it wouldn't be a bad thing if he says he did three strikes and
00:10:25.900 that's it and he's done.
00:10:27.300 Why not be in favor of my resolution or at least agnostic to it?
00:10:32.620 Because it just says you have to withdraw from hostilities.
00:10:36.300 It doesn't it it doesn't, you know, impeach him or anything for some or even incriminate
00:10:42.500 him for something that he's already done.
00:10:44.580 And by the way, Tim, I hear people saying, oh, well, the Congress, you know, the president
00:10:49.680 had the authority to do this without Congress.
00:10:51.840 And they cite the War Powers Act, the very legislation that I'm using to bring this bill
00:10:56.280 to the floor.
00:10:57.440 Well, there is a situation in which the president doesn't need to come to Congress.
00:11:01.560 That's outlined in the War Powers Act.
00:11:04.780 It says if there's an imminent threat to America.
00:11:08.360 Now, there was no such imminent threat to America.
00:11:11.320 The reason they put that in there is they anticipated situations where they couldn't get Congress
00:11:15.920 assembled in time to respond to something or something was a kinetic situation that need
00:11:21.260 to be reacted to.
00:11:22.280 But even in that circumstance, Tim, guess what?
00:11:26.240 The War Powers Act requires within 60 days, the president stop all hostilities and come
00:11:32.520 to Congress for a vote.
00:11:33.800 He can get a 30 day extension.
00:11:36.140 But that's it.
00:11:37.200 There's going to be a vote on this.
00:11:39.520 And I'm going to lead that effort.
00:11:42.380 And even if it's not the the the process that I think could get me to the floor by July 14th,
00:11:49.660 there will be a vote on this.
00:11:51.160 But is there any do you have any real fear of Iran getting access to a nuclear weapon,
00:11:57.640 be it just a warhead to launch a missile or even dirty bombs and smaller, more disastrous
00:12:03.420 weapons?
00:12:06.140 Well, I mean, presumably they can buy one from North Korea or from one of the there's probably
00:12:14.060 some floating around from where the Soviet Union dissolved.
00:12:16.880 And maybe with enough money, you could pick one of those up on the black market.
00:12:21.280 I don't know how they would get one at this point.
00:12:24.460 But I am concerned that American troops and America in general is under a greater threat.
00:12:31.800 Iran doesn't have a ballistic missile that can reach the United States.
00:12:36.960 They could reach some of our bases.
00:12:38.440 They can reach Israel.
00:12:39.520 They can reach parts of Europe, parts of Eastern Africa, Russia, India, Pakistan.
00:12:44.760 But they their missiles don't go beyond that.
00:12:47.200 I'm not worried about a direct attack, if you will, from missiles.
00:12:50.620 But they could obviously hit one of our assets in the Middle East.
00:12:54.280 There's a report that Russia, a former president of Russia, said other nations are already lining
00:13:01.460 up to sell nuclear weapons or the means to make them to Iran because of this attack.
00:13:06.220 And there are some rumors that Iran may have met with Pakistan.
00:13:11.440 So it seems like additionally, Telegraph, as well as The New York Times have reported,
00:13:16.640 following the strike, the U.S. is not sure where the fissile material went.
00:13:20.360 Some 400 kilograms of enriched uranium was smuggled out days before the strike.
00:13:26.280 I'm curious your thoughts on this.
00:13:28.420 If Trump comes to Congress and says, here's the satellite imagery, they're dispersing weapons
00:13:35.160 grade uranium.
00:13:35.960 We have to stop them now.
00:13:37.880 Would you still say no to U.S. involvement?
00:13:41.020 Well, first of all, let me say this, and this should be obvious to everybody.
00:13:44.900 I don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
00:13:47.740 OK, that's obvious.
00:13:49.200 But is our policy going to be, over the next five or 10 years, we're going to bomb anybody
00:13:54.960 that has access or has acquired a nuclear or could acquire a nuclear weapon?
00:14:00.700 I'm concerned about artificial intelligence five years from now, where you put in the prompt,
00:14:06.040 hey, how can I make a nuclear weapon 10 times as quickly as it's been done in the past with
00:14:13.020 only these resources which are inside of my country?
00:14:15.960 Does that mean we're going to bomb everybody that has an AI that's smart enough to do that?
00:14:23.000 This is a never-ending chase.
00:14:25.300 I think we should bolster our own missile defense.
00:14:29.020 We've watched some lessons there, I think, in Israel.
00:14:33.280 Hopefully we've learned from that and our missile defense is better now than it was.
00:14:39.220 But I suspect ours isn't good enough and could be overwhelmed at some point with enough missiles.
00:14:44.500 And so we should be working on defensive strategies instead of just pretending we can blow up everybody
00:14:50.440 and every project that's a danger to the United States anywhere on the globe anytime we want.
00:14:55.640 So Trump put out this very long Truth Social post.
00:14:59.540 He called you weak.
00:15:00.980 He said MAGA should dump you.
00:15:02.520 You should be primaried.
00:15:03.920 And it's going to be working very, very hard to see that you lose your next election.
00:15:08.380 I'm curious your thoughts.
00:15:10.120 I assume you read it.
00:15:11.180 Can you put the post on the screen?
00:15:14.120 It's like a dissertation.
00:15:15.360 I know he went to Wharton, but I bet he never wrote a paper that long when he was at Wharton.
00:15:23.100 But it's amazing that the president of the United States, the guy who launched seven B-2 bombers
00:15:31.020 to the other side of the planet to bomb targets over there and return them,
00:15:37.000 he got up and spent 15 minutes writing a tweet about a Republican, not a Democrat, a Republican
00:15:44.120 congressman from Kentucky.
00:15:46.000 I responded to that tweet, actually quoted it.
00:15:50.100 And I just said, you know, President Trump's declared so much war on me in the last day that
00:15:56.200 it should require an act of Congress at this point.
00:15:58.900 Oh, with Rand Paul, even, and the big, beautiful bill, I know that you were both opponents of it
00:16:05.640 to varying degrees.
00:16:08.300 I know you agree with some of it, you disagree with some of it, you want changes.
00:16:11.780 Trump is going after Republicans on this one.
00:16:15.600 Is it because he doesn't feel like he can, you're not going to convince a Democrat?
00:16:20.060 So any Republican who breaks from the party line is a threat?
00:16:24.140 What is this about?
00:16:24.820 Well, I think he's going after me in particular to keep other Republicans from breaking, whether
00:16:30.500 it's, you know, his support for Israel's war, or whether it's his, you know, zeal for the
00:16:38.120 deal on the big, beautiful bill that has lots of issues with it.
00:16:43.960 When he sees me say something that's absolutely true about it, notice that the president has
00:16:50.360 never refuted any of the things that I've said.
00:16:53.100 Amazon presents Lisa versus the Mosquito.
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00:17:04.720 the asteroid that eliminated the dinosaurs, and the Ice Age.
00:17:09.040 But Lisa shopped on Amazon and bought a can of repellent, a cute long-sleeved shirt,
00:17:14.080 and a citronella candle.
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00:17:23.100 His press secretary does, but he hasn't.
00:17:28.220 And, you know, that just shows you that he's coming after me to show the other Republicans
00:17:34.720 in Congress, hey, that horse got out of the barn, and we're whipping that horse as hard
00:17:39.560 as we can.
00:17:40.640 You can't withstand that kind of whipping.
00:17:42.800 You better stay in the barn.
00:17:44.440 And I've had interactions with President Trump going all the way back to 2020.
00:17:49.880 Some of them been cordial.
00:17:51.300 Some of them been adversarial.
00:17:53.100 What he does know is I'm not changing my mind on this stuff.
00:17:58.560 Rand Paul said that he knows he's going to get a call from the president.
00:18:01.700 He's going to yell at him for an hour.
00:18:04.020 And, you know, Rand's going to say, here's what we need to make happen for the Big Beautiful
00:18:06.960 Bill.
00:18:07.340 But Rand did say that if it came down to it and he was the deciding vote, he would vote
00:18:10.920 in favor of it.
00:18:12.080 Would you do that for the Big Beautiful Bill?
00:18:13.520 Would you do the same thing?
00:18:15.080 No.
00:18:15.640 No, I won't.
00:18:16.260 And in fact, I would love to have that opportunity, because you know what happens if we take down
00:18:21.300 the Big Beautiful Bill?
00:18:22.900 We write a better, more beautiful bill that doesn't have the warts and canker sores that
00:18:30.660 this bill has, one that doesn't bankrupt the country.
00:18:35.220 Like, negotiations, Trump knows this.
00:18:37.460 Negotiations don't start until one side says no.
00:18:40.620 And the reason the blue state Republicans got what they wanted in the House version of
00:18:47.620 the bill and the Freedom Caucus did not is the Freedom Caucus wasn't willing to vote no.
00:18:54.000 They weren't willing to go against what they presumed President Trump wants.
00:18:58.920 But those blue state Republicans were willing to go no.
00:19:02.400 And so they got what they wanted.
00:19:03.780 Now, the Senate says they're taking that blue state giveaway that would, you know, enrich
00:19:11.040 actually sanctuary cities and states like California and New York.
00:19:16.520 The Senate says they're taking that out now.
00:19:18.880 So that'll set up an interesting dynamic when this bill comes back to the House.
00:19:22.800 That was the SALT, the state and local tax deductions?
00:19:25.900 Yeah.
00:19:26.460 The argument?
00:19:27.060 It means if you live in a sanctuary city that has super high real estate taxes and you're
00:19:34.320 affluent and you itemize your taxes, that you don't have to pay as much tax as somebody
00:19:40.920 who lives in Kentucky and has the same income but has lower property taxes.
00:19:47.640 Right.
00:19:48.380 So where are we at with that?
00:19:51.700 Is that coming up for a vote in a couple weeks?
00:19:54.480 Well, they're going to play brinksmanship with it.
00:19:58.260 Let's talk about that.
00:19:59.780 The Senate is, you know, they're taking their sweet time and they have every right to be
00:20:04.400 deliberative and go through this bill one by one.
00:20:07.080 And they actually might make it better.
00:20:09.380 I don't know if they can make it better enough that I would vote for it.
00:20:13.980 There's a possibility.
00:20:15.460 I'm not an absolute no on something I haven't read.
00:20:18.580 And it seems like they are making it a little bit better.
00:20:20.900 So when they send it back over, that could be something that I vote for.
00:20:24.700 But they're going to play brinksmanship with it.
00:20:27.360 Here in the House, we had just a few hours to read the big, beautiful bill before it passed.
00:20:34.180 And I think they're going to do the same thing.
00:20:36.880 But they're going to use the pressure of the debt limit expiring and having a default on
00:20:44.000 our national debt.
00:20:45.180 And they're going to try to use that pressure sometime in July when all that expires.
00:20:49.000 So I think they've picked a deadline and they're really just wasting time until we
00:20:53.340 get to that deadline so they can use that crisis to motivate even more votes for that
00:20:57.920 bill.
00:20:58.660 Well, Trump says in that post that tax is going to go up by 68 percent.
00:21:02.480 You know, there's a lot of Americans who see that short term tax relief, no tax on tips.
00:21:07.760 And then you got the gun rights people.
00:21:09.400 They love the the short and the hearing protection act in there.
00:21:12.400 What what what the issue of the deficit deficit spending and the debt is a bit more foreign
00:21:20.200 to the average person.
00:21:21.020 I don't understand how it's going to negatively impact them.
00:21:23.160 So what what is your concern with with those issues?
00:21:26.360 Well, first of all, I'm the chairman of the Second Amendment Caucus here in the House
00:21:29.740 of Representatives.
00:21:30.360 I couldn't be more excited that there won't be a tax on suppressors.
00:21:35.260 OK, that is excellent.
00:21:36.960 I would take it off of all of the NFA weapons.
00:21:40.440 I would take them all out of the registry.
00:21:42.840 I would repeal the 1934 NFA.
00:21:48.080 Wait, wait, wait.
00:21:48.500 Tell them you want that in the bill and you'll and you'll vote on it.
00:21:51.500 Yeah.
00:21:51.960 Right.
00:21:52.560 So, yeah, maybe we can get even sweeter here with that, with the gun provisions.
00:21:57.020 But I'm in favor of that.
00:21:58.160 And also as far as extending the the Tax Cut and Jobs Act of 2017, that wouldn't be a
00:22:04.960 hard vote for me.
00:22:05.680 I voted for the 2017 Tax Cut and Jobs Act.
00:22:09.100 OK, but there's a reason all of those tax cuts expire this year, and that's because they
00:22:14.360 couldn't make the budget balance and keep those tax cuts going on forever.
00:22:18.100 So they set up a situation in 2025 where they knew this would be an issue.
00:22:24.520 Guess what they're doing inside of this bill again?
00:22:26.980 They're going to extend the Tax Cut and Jobs Act for 10 years.
00:22:30.360 But the no tax on tips, the tax break for seniors and the no tax on overtime is only going to
00:22:36.580 last three years.
00:22:38.440 And conveniently, that means when it when it all expires, Trump's not going to be president.
00:22:45.180 There will have been two Senate elections and two House elections between now and then.
00:22:49.900 So a lot of these people won't be around.
00:22:51.740 And the people who inherit this are going to call those expiring provisions a fiscal cliff.
00:22:59.020 And so they will renew those tax cuts.
00:23:01.500 There are also what will expire is there's $100 billion more of military spending in this
00:23:06.400 big, beautiful bill.
00:23:07.280 But it's all in the first three years.
00:23:09.440 And so when that expires, they're going to say, oh, my gosh, you're going to decimate
00:23:14.340 our military.
00:23:15.420 They'll call it a fiscal cliff.
00:23:18.020 And so those savings, the way they get these 10 year budgets to balance is they spend like
00:23:23.200 drunken sailors in the first five years.
00:23:25.040 They give everybody all the goodies they want the first five years.
00:23:27.800 And then in the second five years, they take the goodies away and they and they keep a lot
00:23:33.960 of this spending in and it never does balance.
00:23:37.920 I want to go back to to Iran, because there are a lot of people when Donald Trump was running
00:23:43.140 for his reelection, they said Trump is the no new wars president.
00:23:47.120 And I particularly appreciated that.
00:23:49.500 I did not vote to have strikes in Iran.
00:23:52.040 I'm not going to go so crazy and say Trump should be impeached like AOC or anything like
00:23:55.320 that.
00:23:55.560 I hope it works out for the best.
00:23:57.080 But there are a lot of people that are just immediately on board, many prominent personalities.
00:24:00.600 I'm curious your thoughts on on that phenomenon, where many people who touted this no new wars
00:24:06.520 are now saying Trump's doing it.
00:24:08.440 I trust Trump.
00:24:09.140 Great.
00:24:09.720 Let's go.
00:24:11.560 Well, some of them are my friends like J.D.
00:24:15.220 Vance.
00:24:16.040 He was very skeptical of the war in Ukraine.
00:24:18.900 He and I had, you know, private meetings over over a building near here about how to wind
00:24:25.500 down the war in Ukraine when he was a U.S.
00:24:27.680 Senator Tulsi Gabbard and I had a lot of conversations on the floor of the House about how we didn't
00:24:32.840 need to be at war in Syria and we shouldn't be doing the covert operations that were going
00:24:37.940 on there.
00:24:39.580 So I know that coalition still exists.
00:24:42.360 They cannot be as vocal now in the jobs they have as I think they would be otherwise.
00:24:48.420 Marjorie Taylor Greene is she's staying true to the course here on the MAGA promise of no
00:24:56.540 new wars, no regime change.
00:24:59.560 It's a lot of us are getting whiplash, though, because the president has changed course.
00:25:05.260 I think even some of his advisers and spokespeople, they go out one day and say this isn't about
00:25:10.820 regime change.
00:25:11.580 And then the next day he blows all that up with a tweet.
00:25:14.420 Yeah, that's always been what he does.
00:25:17.240 He put out that truth post saying regime change.
00:25:20.560 But it sounds like what he's saying.
00:25:22.280 I think J.D.
00:25:22.780 Vance asked about this.
00:25:24.060 He's saying internally they should remove their their government, not U.S.
00:25:29.260 boots on the ground.
00:25:31.260 How do you do that?
00:25:32.880 I mean, cross your fingers and make a wish.
00:25:35.420 Here's what else happens.
00:25:36.500 You take out a government, the country collapses and it devolves into anarchy and civil war.
00:25:42.500 And you've got all these adversarial ethnic groups inside of Iran, similar to Iraq, and
00:25:53.640 they'll be vying for power.
00:25:56.080 It won't be obvious what evolved from that.
00:26:00.540 And somebody has to step in and restore some kind of semblance of structure in the meantime.
00:26:09.180 And that's just that's where you get bogged down.
00:26:11.960 Then we've got to look the biggest.
00:26:14.320 Do you know what?
00:26:15.220 This isn't like a Tucker Carlson.
00:26:16.900 Do you know the population of Iran?
00:26:18.600 I'll give you the answer.
00:26:19.500 92 million.
00:26:20.340 Yes.
00:26:20.860 I'll give you the answer.
00:26:22.280 Guess where the biggest embassy in the world, not just the biggest U.S. embassy, the biggest
00:26:29.700 embassy in the world by acreage, by cost.
00:26:32.100 Um, it's in Iraq.
00:26:35.260 OK, like we're going to end up building a giant if we if there's like regime change in
00:26:41.960 Iran, we'll probably build, you know, a Taj Mahal embassy in Iran.
00:26:47.560 And then, you know, nobody wants to see on the evening news pictures of the embassy being
00:26:53.380 overrun like we saw in Libya.
00:26:55.560 Yeah.
00:26:55.960 So they build a really big one.
00:26:57.740 These are like anchors that keep us there forever.
00:27:00.380 That's that's what I'm concerned about.
00:27:02.180 That's if the the people who've been in charge in the deep state, you know, in the part of
00:27:08.860 the government that doesn't change when you have elections, if they have their way, we'll
00:27:13.140 be there forever.
00:27:14.640 And the military industrial complex is, you know, they're just going to be giddy that
00:27:19.380 we're blowing up all these missiles right now.
00:27:21.600 Well, last question, just real quick.
00:27:23.420 Um, you know, J.D. Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, they don't want war.
00:27:26.740 They they were.
00:27:27.540 Uh, I mean, even J.D. Vance was critical of hitting the Houthis.
00:27:31.500 Is this you know, Donald Trump has been saying for decades, Iran can't have a nuclear weapon.
00:27:37.060 Is this strike now a product of Donald Trump adamantly refusing the advice of those around
00:27:42.500 him?
00:27:43.420 Or is the deep state saying you got to do this?
00:27:45.860 Um, I think it's the deep state.
00:27:50.400 I think it's Israel, the lobbyists from Israel.
00:27:55.020 Um, I think it's the military industrial complex.
00:27:58.800 He may think in some way this helps the economy.
00:28:02.100 This also, you know, it may help his popularity rating.
00:28:06.880 Frankly, it's unpopular to be against a president who's at war.
00:28:11.640 Yeah, the founders knew this, and that's why they didn't want the executive to have
00:28:16.380 the, uh, authority to declare a war because, you know, the laurels go to the, to the commander
00:28:23.920 in chief.
00:28:25.360 So I'd say there are a lot of different reasons for it.
00:28:29.420 Uh, I, you know, I don't want to say he's insincere.
00:28:32.520 He probably does want to take out any nuclear capability of Iran.
00:28:36.940 It's just not clear that we're going to be able to do that and that we're not on a treadmill
00:28:41.040 now where every year you have to bomb something based on some report from some foreign government's
00:28:48.280 intelligence.
00:28:49.440 I think the media is going to be on board.
00:28:51.340 I think we might start seeing articles pop up saying Trump has never been more presidential.
00:28:55.460 Their ratings are going to skyrocket from this.
00:28:58.800 Look, that's, that's the irony.
00:29:00.900 All of the media who hates Trump is going to like him for this.
00:29:04.360 The, the Bushes and the Cheneys who have Trump derangement syndrome, he's like their favorite
00:29:09.400 president now.
00:29:10.780 Bolton praised him for doing this attack.
00:29:14.100 Uh, you've, I, there are people who, by the way, Liz Cheney max donated to my primary
00:29:19.880 opponent.
00:29:20.380 Uh, and, and now she's the happiest can be with Donald Trump.
00:29:26.600 And if I could, before we run out of time, I do want to say something about my next primary
00:29:31.500 with that.
00:29:32.680 But so I've been, you can't run to the right of me in Kentucky.
00:29:37.820 There is no room to the right of me.
00:29:40.480 So for three primaries in a row, people have tried running to the Trump of me.
00:29:44.820 They say I'm not Trump enough.
00:29:46.900 But the reality is when you dig down into it, I'm the original America first congressman.
00:29:51.920 That has always been my platform, even when it costs me in popularity.
00:29:56.800 And so over 12 years, I've developed that understanding with, with my constituents.
00:30:02.940 And so I think it's going to be hard to come at me from the right, but the president now
00:30:07.440 hit the, the cronies that are around him, the leeches that make money off of his political
00:30:12.960 enterprise.
00:30:13.940 They say they're starting a super PAC now whose sole purpose is to take me out of office.
00:30:18.860 And then you have, um, APAC, which is the Israeli lobby spent $400,000 against me last cycle.
00:30:26.320 I would say a lot of the money that those leeches that are around Trump are going to use is probably
00:30:31.520 going to be Israeli lobby money because what American would waste their money trying to
00:30:35.920 take out an America first congressman.
00:30:37.840 So that's what you're going to see.
00:30:40.240 It's going to be a hell of a fight.
00:30:42.680 I mean, I've never got less than 75% in any of my primaries.
00:30:46.160 I'm not saying that's going to be the case this time.
00:30:48.300 I'll probably have millions and millions of dollars spent against me.
00:30:51.220 They still haven't found a candidate yet who wants to try this.
00:30:54.580 And trust me, they're searching hard in my district.
00:30:56.800 Eventually they'll find some schmuck to, uh, be in the TV commercials who has no record
00:31:02.740 whatsoever and they'll try to make him out to be, you know, the next Ronald Reagan or
00:31:08.320 something, but I need money and I've been raising money every time the president attacks
00:31:14.240 me and trust me, I would prefer not to have the president attack me.
00:31:17.840 People are like, Oh, man, he's just doing this to raise money.
00:31:20.300 That is not a fact.
00:31:21.560 But once I get attacked, I have to raise money.
00:31:23.820 When Trump attacked me the first time this year, I raised almost 400,000.
00:31:29.060 The last time I raised 50,000 and in the last 24 hours, I've received a hundred thousand
00:31:34.780 dollars.
00:31:35.500 Wow.
00:31:36.260 Uh, and that's off Twitter.
00:31:38.120 I don't have campaign consultants that are doing a lot of work out there.
00:31:41.940 This is just people sending me money cause they know on exit I'm in trouble.
00:31:45.720 So, uh, I just wanted to point out that that's, that's how this works.
00:31:50.620 I'm not grifting.
00:31:51.940 I'm just trying to stay in office so I can promote the true America first agenda.
00:31:56.980 Where can people find more?
00:31:59.060 Well, since I'm in my congressional office, I am not going to, uh, give out my, uh, campaign
00:32:04.540 website because I got the capital back here.
00:32:07.760 Um, and people would love to catch me up on that one, but you can tell them after I get
00:32:12.840 off the screen.
00:32:14.480 They can follow your X account.
00:32:16.240 Can't they?
00:32:16.960 Yeah.
00:32:17.460 I've got an official and a campaign account.
00:32:19.760 So, uh, my official account is at rep Thomas Massey.
00:32:23.860 Follow me there for official news.
00:32:25.860 And, um, you know, that's my day job.
00:32:28.640 That's what I do to, to fight for the American people.
00:32:32.140 Well, uh, uh, representative Massey, I appreciate you joining me, explaining all of this.
00:32:35.760 Uh, thank you very much.
00:32:36.480 And we'll see you next time.
00:32:37.920 Thanks, Tim.
00:32:38.800 Take care.
00:32:39.180 That, of course, is representative Thomas Massey, who, uh, I think is the best, uh,
00:32:46.940 we have in Congress.
00:32:47.740 I'm a huge fan.
00:32:48.740 I think he's principled.
00:32:50.160 I think he does a good job.
00:32:51.560 I think Trump attacking him is not the apocalypse.
00:32:55.020 I don't see him losing and I, I don't completely agree with him.
00:32:58.140 Uh, I, I like Rand Paul as well.
00:33:00.280 Rand said, if he's the deciding vote on the bill, he's going to vote for it.
00:33:03.240 I think it's the right thing to do, but there are a lot of people that want to rag on Massey
00:33:08.120 because Trump's ragging on Massey, but Massey does a good job.
00:33:11.060 He's a man of honor and principle.
00:33:12.400 And I respect it even when I disagree with it.
00:33:14.660 And I hope that's what we get more of in Congress.
00:33:16.860 I don't actually know his website.
00:33:20.520 Uh, I mean, I can just probably search for it.
00:33:24.520 His campaign website.
00:33:27.500 Um, I don't know.
00:33:28.600 I Googled it.
00:33:29.100 It didn't pop up.
00:33:31.400 Sorry, right?
00:33:31.940 Massey.
00:33:32.240 I don't know.
00:33:33.000 Massey.house.gov.
00:33:34.040 You guys can learn more.
00:33:34.940 Maybe you disagree with him.
00:33:35.780 Maybe you agree with Trump.
00:33:36.500 That's fine.
00:33:37.320 Um, I was thinking it would be great to get his perspective on these things as they were
00:33:40.620 going.
00:33:40.880 So now we're going to get that raid for you guys and send you to hang out with,
00:33:44.660 Russell Brand, who is gearing up to go live right now.
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00:33:54.800 Thank you guys so much for hanging out.
00:33:56.900 And, uh, shout out to, uh, to Rep Massey.
00:33:58.900 And we had, uh, Senator Paul on, uh, last week.
00:34:01.520 It's been good hearing their perspectives.
00:34:04.400 I don't know, guys.
00:34:05.600 I'm, I'm fairly moderate.
00:34:07.120 I trust Trump in this regard.
00:34:08.640 I think, I think he knows things we don't.
00:34:11.600 I begrudgingly say okay to what's going on.
00:34:14.400 I don't like it.
00:34:15.220 I'm not for it.
00:34:15.880 I think it's a stain on his presidency.
00:34:17.400 I will, I will criticize it.
00:34:19.120 I will say, you know, what I can.
00:34:22.040 But I think Trump has done too good of a job.
00:34:25.080 He has done so many good things in his first term and a second term that I view it largely
00:34:31.480 as, uh, just good, just generally good.
00:34:35.220 Uh, I said the other day that I view this as, this, this, this brings his presidency into
00:34:39.160 a net negative territory.
00:34:40.620 Let me clarify that.
00:34:42.200 I'm saying if this goes beyond the scope of what we expect it to be right now, we're in
00:34:47.820 trouble.
00:34:48.220 We're in net negative territory.
00:34:49.300 As of right now, where we're at, we're, we're teetering on the line.
00:34:52.160 In my view, that's just me.
00:34:53.560 I don't know everything.
00:34:54.960 I'm just saying striking Iran could, could open the door to devastating price increases,
00:35:01.560 destabilization in the region, loss of human life.
00:35:05.840 American soldiers are at risk right now is such tremendous risks to this.
00:35:10.100 But I recognize, I don't know the real security ramifications of what happens if Iran is giving
00:35:15.460 out fissile material to lunatics.
00:35:17.740 That's why I say it's a rock and a hard place.
00:35:19.860 I would just vote.
00:35:20.860 No, prove it to me before we drop bombs in a foreign country without going to Congress.
00:35:26.180 Prove it to me.
00:35:26.800 I don't think they did that.
00:35:27.780 That's why I'm pissed.
00:35:29.000 I feel like we were misled, but we'll see my friends.
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