The Culture War - Tim Pool - Billionaire Warns CIVIL WAR Is Here As Antifa Riots ESCALATE Nationwide ft. Auron MacIntyre

00:00:00.320 No constitution is ever written by human hands, that all constitutions are written on to people's hearts by God.

00:00:07.920 And constitutions aren't pieces of paper, they're literally the way that we are constituted as a people.

00:00:13.700 They come from our traditions, they come from our beliefs, they come from our religion, they come from our folkways.

00:00:18.820 And when we write them down, we're really just capturing, taking a snapshot of what we believe and how we live our lives in the moment.

00:00:26.900 Let's go.

00:00:27.620 From Newsweek, hedge fund billionaire warns U.S. is entering civil war.

00:00:34.860 And Vox.com asks, is America on the brink of civil war?

00:00:40.180 Now they've removed of civil war from their headline now.

00:00:44.860 And it's kind of funny because they brought on this woman, Barbara F. Walter, who then basically says,

00:00:50.460 claiming that a civil war is possible is the problem itself.

00:00:55.300 She says, people like Laura Loomer and Steve Bannon go straight to civil war language.

00:00:59.100 So did Vox.com.

00:01:01.620 The divide is clear.

00:01:03.540 We are seeing people on the left defend Charlie Kirk's killing.

00:01:07.340 I have got a death threat that I just read out a moment on the previous segment, at least a portion of I'm not going to read the whole thing.

00:01:12.840 I've been in contact with the FBI and the DOJ has announced the arrest of a man who sent a threatening letter to Benny Johnson threatening to kill him.

00:01:21.040 I have been in contact with the FBI about similar threats that we have received here at TimCast, and we are taking all of these threats very seriously.

00:01:29.000 It is escalating.

00:01:30.680 Donald Trump has called for the jailing of Governor Pritzker and Mayor Brandon Johnson, and Pritzker says, come and get me.

00:01:38.000 Trump has sent in Texas National Guard into Illinois. 0.99

00:01:40.860 Holy crap. 0.98

00:01:41.820 But it is escalating, my friends. 0.97

00:01:44.900 Now, to get another opinion on this, we're going to be joined by Aron McIntyre, commentator.

00:01:50.100 Let me pull up the room with Aron.

00:01:56.020 Here we go.

00:01:57.280 Got it.

00:01:58.180 And we'll get the camera going.

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00:02:08.380 There we go.

00:02:09.300 Aron, can you hear me?

00:02:10.720 Hey, how's it going?

00:02:11.820 It's going pretty well.

00:02:13.120 How are you, sir?

00:02:14.360 Doing well, doing well.

00:02:15.660 So we've got, I mean, there's big news right now about Israel-Palestine.

00:02:19.040 It seems to be dominating the news.

00:02:20.740 However, over the past weekend, we've seen an escalation of riots.

00:02:24.000 Far leftists have descended on Portland.

00:02:26.360 They've been in Chicago.

00:02:27.380 And it's gone beyond the riots.

00:02:29.160 There are, of course, weird scenes coming out of Portland of people dressed like animals, which I think is propaganda efforts.

00:02:34.720 But in Illinois, there's something particularly interesting.

00:02:36.760 A video where a man being arrested by ICE is helped by bystanders escape.

00:02:42.900 And the ICE officers give up and let him go.

00:02:45.060 This guy's yelling, I Udeme!

00:02:46.600 And the people obliged and let him go.

00:02:49.500 Trump is sending in Texas National Guard into Illinois to assist with immigration enforcement.

00:02:55.660 While the people of Illinois are actually fighting against ICE.

00:03:00.120 And the governor says, come and get me, threatening, daring Trump to actually arrest him.

00:03:06.280 Now, Ray Dalio has said that we are entering a new kind of civil war.

00:03:09.600 And even Vox.com today published an article, is the U.S. on the brink of civil war?

00:03:15.100 I, of course, have talked about this for some time, but I'm curious your thoughts on what is currently going on.

00:03:21.320 Well, I think when a lot of people think about the civil war, they think about two sides, formal armies, uniforms, generals, you know, a command structure.

00:03:30.460 They think of a separate government that's somehow been declared.

00:03:33.140 And it's not civil war until you get to that point.

00:03:36.380 If we're going by that definition, no, I don't think we're going to probably see that anytime soon.

00:03:41.620 However, most people don't remember that the American Civil War didn't start with two different sides and different uniforms and generals.

00:03:49.380 It didn't even start at Fort Sumter.

00:03:51.440 The American Civil War really started in the border states.

00:03:54.920 A lot of people have forgotten the story of bleeding Kansas, where you have these different states that were territories, but they had to enter into the United States.

00:04:02.660 And when they did so, they had to vote whether to be slave or free.

00:04:05.220 And so both sides, the abolitionists and the pro-slavery side, recognized that every state added to the union would put things on their side, right?

00:04:13.700 It would tip the balance in Congress representation.

00:04:16.280 So they all moved.

00:04:17.580 A bunch of people from each side moved into places like Kansas.

00:04:21.240 And once each side recognized that they were both artificially kind of boosting the ballot box by moving to these places and messing with the vote, we actually got running gun battles.

00:04:30.660 We got actual full-on conflict between these two sides.

00:04:34.520 They weren't paramilitary organizations.

00:04:37.120 No one had a leadership.

00:04:38.620 No one was assigned to any specific government organization.

00:04:41.880 But this became so famous that, again, we call this period now Bleeding Kansas because of the amount of violence, just civilian-on-civilian, non-government-authorized violence that occurred in these border skirmishes.

00:04:54.340 And I think what we're looking at here is something similar.

00:04:57.300 We're probably not going to see the formal declaration of civil war anytime soon.

00:05:01.020 But I think we will see escalating violence in what could be a pre-Civil War type of maneuver.

00:05:07.200 Maybe.

00:05:08.140 I agree with 99% of what you're saying.

00:05:11.080 The reason why I think there's a possibility this could be different is digital communications, the speed at which communications travel.

00:05:17.360 And so I've been thinking a lot about this, and you're absolutely right about Bleeding Kansas. 0.88

00:05:22.100 It certainly feels like we are in this period where you've got, I mean, one, the killing of Charlie Kirk, the riots and the protests at federal facilities.

00:05:29.380 However, Trump is sending in National Guard from Texas into other states already, which when you look at the history of the Civil War, we didn't really get that.

00:05:41.840 And the structure of government was a bit different.

00:05:44.220 So it's after, you know, Fort Sumter, they say, was the beginning of the American Civil War, but it wasn't really even a thing.

00:05:50.600 One person died.

00:05:51.660 It was an accident.

00:05:52.620 Nobody was actually trying to kill each other.

00:05:53.920 And then you had the Battle of Bull Run, where people still thought we were not going to be in a civil war.

00:06:01.420 After that, four more states—I'm sorry.

00:06:04.600 After that, Lincoln then says, we're going to rally a bunch of troops and send them into the South and quell the rebellion.

00:06:09.940 Four more states then secede.

00:06:11.440 And all this took kind of a long time, took months.

00:06:14.760 But with the speed of communications, a judge's ruling is overnight.

00:06:18.600 Trump responds overnight, and the public reacts in an instant.

00:06:21.860 So we're at a point now in this country where we may have entered bleeding Kansas in the past couple of years when we saw, you know, Andrew Yang was saying, I'm going to move to Georgia to influence the election, as you described with these other states.

00:06:35.980 So maybe these past several years with the Trump first administration can be described as that period of civil strife, violence in the streets.

00:06:42.300 But with the movement of Texas troops into Illinois, it looks like we are on the precipice of something more serious.

00:06:51.660 I think that's exactly right.

00:06:53.400 I mean, ultimately, like you say, we have what we have basically collapsing decision space, right?

00:06:58.420 The faster that information moves, the more that decisions are made quickly, the less likely they are to have any kind of public evaluation.

00:07:05.860 We don't go through any kind of democratic process.

00:07:08.040 We don't have a national conversation.

00:07:09.860 It just feels like things happen, right?

00:07:11.420 And momentum builds very quickly.

00:07:13.300 And, of course, the faster momentum builds with less time for people to have conversations, work things out, you know, go through any formal process.

00:07:19.860 Then the likelihood of running into one of these calamitous, you know, someone fires around at the wrong time.

00:07:26.160 You know, a national guardsman gets spooked.

00:07:27.840 They get rushed.

00:07:28.660 Some Antifa guy decides to get really violent and there's some kind of shooting in the crowd.

00:07:32.900 These things can all spiral out of control very quickly.

00:07:36.720 But we also have to remember that at the same time, you know, Eisenhower and JFK sent, you know, the 101st Airborne in, you know, to southern states to force the issue of segregation, right?

00:07:48.800 So it's not the first time that we've had a full-on, not just National Guard, but, like, Army, you know, military deployed into the United States and forcing action on other Americans, and that did not result in civil war.

00:08:02.340 I do think you're right that this time is probably a little different, but it's not like tensions were exactly low during segregation and attempts to integrate in the South as well.

00:08:10.500 So I don't want to jump to the end and say that this has to be radically different, but I will say that if nothing else, we are at least at that level of tension and possible conflict, which was already extremely high at the time.

00:08:22.760 Are you familiar—I talked about this this morning—are you familiar with the graphic novel, I Am Legend?

00:08:28.680 I've seen the movie, but I never read the movie.

00:08:30.040 Oh, the movie's terrible.

00:08:30.940 Just forget you even saw it.

00:08:32.240 The general idea—and I'm probably getting this wrong.

00:08:34.400 It's been so long since I've read it.

00:08:36.320 The general idea is you've got a vampire hunter.

00:08:38.200 He goes around during the day when the vampire's in their coffins. 0.96

00:08:41.620 He kills vampires. 0.96

00:08:42.920 But the vampires are winning. 0.98

00:08:44.520 By the end of the story, society is all vampires.

00:08:48.280 Cities are all run by vampires. 0.85

00:08:49.520 The government is all vampires. 0.73

00:08:50.860 And he gets captured and arrested.

00:08:53.040 And he's looking out of a jail cell, and there's a vampire citizen walks by and sees him, terrified.

00:08:58.620 This look of fear in his face.

00:09:00.340 And that's when he realizes he is the monster of myth and legend that lurks while people sleep and kills them in their beds.

00:09:06.640 The general idea is his world is gone.

00:09:12.960 The world that he was fighting for doesn't exist anymore.

00:09:15.480 And so I use an example because what we're seeing right now with Chicago, for instance, I watched this shocking and terrifying video.

00:09:23.000 It's a man—Ice is trying to arrest him.

00:09:25.900 And he's yelling, I Udame, and resisting arrest.

00:09:28.960 And people help him.

00:09:29.920 What's terrifying about it is we recognize the authority of ICE and CBP.

00:09:36.060 We voted for Trump to enforce immigration law.

00:09:39.960 But in these jurisdictions, like in Chicago, not only do people not fear the authority of the federal government,

00:09:45.980 they view it as illegitimate and come to the aid of the man who is resisting arrest and in violation of our laws.

00:09:52.400 Zoran Mamdani vowed in his campaign in New York to defend his community from Trump's ICE.

00:09:59.680 What is he saying?

00:10:00.740 He's saying, me and my people?

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00:11:00.360 We're not part of your country.

00:11:03.560 What you voted for, what you seek to enforce, we are opposed to and will resist and reject.

00:11:09.140 But what's scary about it is his statement is basically saying there is a voting block

00:11:14.360 large enough in New York that believes we are a separate national entity to the federal government

00:11:23.320 that our community must be defended from them.

00:11:28.320 It's at this point people need to realize they're actually our factions.

00:11:31.620 We'll call them whatever you want, but they are there in front of us.

00:11:33.840 I'm curious if you see similarly.

00:11:35.800 Yeah, I think, you know, if we if we think about how laws work, right, we assume often people

00:11:44.020 on the right conservatives will say, well, a law is written down.

00:11:47.180 And if the law is written down, then people just have to follow it.

00:11:49.120 That's just how it works.

00:11:50.280 But of course, that's not how laws get enforced.

00:11:53.160 We can't actually compel the vast majority of the population to obey the law all of the time.

00:11:59.120 The reason that law is getting that ultimately work is that the majority of people agree with

00:12:02.700 the law, they follow the law, they do it voluntarily, no one has to put a gun to their head.

00:12:07.400 The spirit of the law goes along with their beliefs, their way of being, their tradition,

00:12:12.340 their understanding, their morality.

00:12:14.120 A few people have to be compelled because that's always the case, but you can't force it on everyone.

00:12:18.580 And this is why it's really important that when you make laws, you have a shared basis of morality

00:12:24.980 and tradition and understanding how this should work, right?

00:12:28.280 Because you can't force it down on everybody.

00:12:30.780 When we had this situation, again, to make the comparison with the last Civil War, you

00:12:34.880 had, of course, a period of Reconstruction after the Civil War.

00:12:38.360 And it's basically long-term military occupation of the South.

00:12:41.680 And the reason they did that is, well, they did not trust the South to actually follow the

00:12:46.300 law.

00:12:46.580 They felt like they had to compel them at force to do this.

00:12:49.760 And even after Reconstruction ended, we basically oriented our entire society, our system of laws,

00:12:55.420 the 14th Amendment, everything we did to the Constitution after.

00:12:59.200 We oriented it to basically allow the North to force those things onto the South. 0.64

00:13:05.580 Now, again, you might think that's bad.

00:13:06.920 You might think that's good.

00:13:07.860 But it is very instructive for us to now look at what we're doing here, right?

00:13:11.560 Because even with all the force of the government, it took basically 100 years for all of the

00:13:16.800 things that the North wanted to kind of compel on the South to take.

00:13:19.880 And even then, there's still conflict, right?

00:13:22.240 There's still some kind of tension in ways between the South and the rest of the United 0.99

00:13:26.060 States, which is why every Northerner's favorite joke is how dumb the South is, right? 0.95

00:13:31.000 And so now you have the scenario where it's kind of the roles are reversed, right? 0.98

00:13:34.720 We have troops from the South, from Texas, having to go to Illinois and compel them to

00:13:39.820 follow these same rules.

00:13:41.180 In some way, we are reconstructing these liberal areas.

00:13:45.160 And that can only go on for so long, because like we said, it's not usually successful unless

00:13:50.060 you have the shared belief.

00:13:51.760 So as long as people in Portland and in Illinois have these radically different beliefs, they

00:13:56.920 must be compelled by force to follow the law, because everything else about their society

00:14:00.900 works against it.

00:14:01.880 This is the free speech challenge.

00:14:04.700 The idea of free speech only works in a society that is homogenous, for the most part.

00:14:09.680 I've talked with a lot of people about the Constitution and their belief in it, liberal,

00:14:13.520 conservative, otherwise.

00:14:15.380 And well, when the First Amendment is ratified, blasphemy was still illegal in most parts

00:14:20.040 of the country.

00:14:21.000 You go outside and blaspheme, you'd get arrested.

00:14:23.280 You couldn't swear obscenity.

00:14:25.060 I think a good example of a legal breakdown is in, I know this sounds pretty gross and 0.97

00:14:30.480 silly, but public defecation.

00:14:33.100 You shouldn't, you know, the joke is, whenever you see a sign in a workplace, it means something 0.99

00:14:38.560 happened.

00:14:39.480 So if there's a sign saying, you know, like, don't steal food from the fridge, it's because

00:14:42.680 someone did.

00:14:43.520 If the sign says, don't take a dump on the floor, you're like, what?

00:14:46.940 Why do you need a sign for that?

00:14:49.100 So why do we need to write down a law that says, do not defecate in public? 0.99

00:14:54.200 The problem is, over a long enough period of time, people began doing it.

00:14:57.120 The problem we have now is, when you look at San Francisco, they allow it.

00:15:01.060 So there is a, so that is a silly, you know, it's kind of a gross and absurd way to look

00:15:04.860 at it, but I think it really matters because it's something so incredibly basic.

00:15:08.040 You can't drop trial in the middle of the street and just go off.

00:15:11.580 But in Democrat-run cities, it's happening all the time and no enforcement happens.

00:15:17.880 So there's already a distinct worldview, right? 0.90

00:15:20.400 Because we'd be like, that's ridiculous.

00:15:22.380 But it is happening and they're allowing it to happen.

00:15:24.960 Where it gets more serious is when we write a law saying you can't enter the country illegally.

00:15:29.560 You have to go through a port of entry.

00:15:32.020 But now we're seeing in New York, California, Oregon, all these blue jurisdictions, not only

00:15:37.720 are they saying, come here and we'll protect you, clearly showing a mirror image of the

00:15:43.800 rule of law.

00:15:45.300 In some instances, they're trying to grant them the right to vote.

00:15:49.540 And so to go back to that, you know, I am legend scenario, we are talking about a military

00:15:54.440 occupation, and I think people listening need to understand that it may not be explicitly

00:16:00.480 stated, but the general functioning of government right now is that Democrats and Republicans

00:16:06.940 are two distinct nations trying to occupy the same space.

00:16:11.600 So when Democrats in Illinois say Trump is in violation of the Constitution, Republicans

00:16:17.320 then say, no, he's not.

00:16:18.660 He's doing everything legally.

00:16:19.780 Actually, that argument is meaningless.

00:16:22.860 It's like trying to argue with France about their laws affecting our country.

00:16:28.040 One way I put it is in the UK, they threatened to extradite and deport Americans for their

00:16:32.520 speech.

00:16:33.100 And we all laughed.

00:16:34.720 You can't come and arrest an American.

00:16:37.140 That's how Democrats feel about Trump right now, that he's trying to effectively do something

00:16:42.140 so absurd.

00:16:43.140 But with all that, do you see a possibility that this could de-escalate things?

00:16:51.180 Like maybe Trump occupies these places as a form, you know, as one way to describe it.

00:16:55.460 And then over the period of 10 or 20 years, things calm down and we go back to normal?

00:17:00.720 It's possible.

00:17:02.080 To piggyback off your last point, there's a thinker, Joseph De Maestra, and he said that

00:17:07.480 no Constitution is ever written by human hands, that all Constitutions are written on to people's 0.83

00:17:14.040 hearts by God.

00:17:15.460 And Constitutions aren't pieces of paper.

00:17:18.220 They're literally the way that we are constituted as a people.

00:17:21.140 They come from our traditions.

00:17:22.440 They come from our beliefs.

00:17:23.680 They come from our religion.

00:17:24.840 They come from our folk ways.

00:17:26.260 And when we write them down, we're really just capturing, taking a snapshot of what we

00:17:31.120 believe and how we live our lives in the moment.

00:17:33.540 So like you said, if the original Constitution was a snapshot of what our founders believed

00:17:38.760 and how they lived their lives and the type of people they were, if we look at our current

00:17:42.680 world, it simply does not align with that, right?

00:17:45.500 The left does not believe those things.

00:17:47.340 And that's why we get two radically different pictures of the Constitution, because we're

00:17:51.920 looking at it in a way that I think is closer to what the founders looked at it like,

00:17:55.840 though we have still changed over time.

00:17:57.160 But the left has a completely different understanding of the Constitution.

00:18:00.820 And so when they interpret it, nothing has changed in the words, but the way they live

00:18:06.200 their lives is so radically different that for them, the Constitution is the way they

00:18:09.400 live their lives, not the words on paper.

00:18:11.480 So you can't just wave it in front of them and say, hey, do this, because that doesn't

00:18:14.600 mean anything to them.

00:18:16.160 So I think the difficulty with trying to deescalate right now is how differently we see the world,

00:18:22.960 how fundamentally different our values, our identities, everything about us is.

00:18:28.580 And so as we saw, again, with the North, there are ways to compel people to do this, right?

00:18:34.120 We did it to Nazi Germany after World War II in Japan, right? 0.91

00:18:38.520 We went in and we occupied those nations, and we forced them to become anti, we did the

00:18:45.200 whole anti-fascism crusade.

00:18:46.720 We forced all this out of kind of their worldviews.

00:18:50.060 We made it illegal to have any reference to their histories or their beliefs.

00:18:53.960 You know, we know how to do this, but none of it is very pretty.

00:18:58.280 So can we do it?

00:18:59.700 Maybe.

00:19:00.380 Do we have the political will?

00:19:01.880 Like, does the MAGA right or do congressional Republicans really have the will to full-on

00:19:08.300 occupy these cities and force out these anti-fascist, terroristic elements?

00:19:13.660 Like, would an average Republican actually take a step like that?

00:19:17.380 Because that's what would be necessary.

00:19:18.680 Well, that could actually escalate things, right?

00:19:21.120 It could.

00:19:21.340 So it's a rock and a hard place.

00:19:23.860 It's hard to map out your path.

00:19:25.680 I think philosophically, I think one of the challenges we have is educating.

00:19:31.540 One thing we have failed to do in this country is educate people on philosophy, morals, and

00:19:35.840 the morality of philosophy, right?

00:19:38.100 So people on the left, they hear that Trump's going to deport a guy who's been here for 20

00:19:44.300 years, and they say that is wrong. 0.97

00:19:48.260 And Trump, by doing so, is a tyrant and a dictator. 0.81

00:19:51.340 When Trump is doing what is asked of him by his voters in the majority, or I should at 0.96

00:19:56.060 least say the plurality, he won the election, he won the popular vote, he's got Congress,

00:20:00.520 the will of the people be done, right?

00:20:02.440 Trump isn't simply going up and saying, I know everyone hates me, I'm going to do whatever

00:20:05.600 I want.

00:20:06.020 The issue is, as it pertains to securing Illinois or Oregon or California, there is no reality

00:20:14.460 where you simply walk in and say, would you kindly follow the law?

00:20:18.320 Because if the law was something like you had to sacrifice children to Malik, people are 1.00

00:20:23.480 going to fight you to their bloody end to stop that from happening.

00:20:27.040 And so there's a lot of people who don't get, we wouldn't need any police at all if this

00:20:34.880 country all shared the moral worldview of Charlie Kirk.

00:20:38.580 Imagine literally every single person believed what Charlie believed.

00:20:42.220 There'd be no murder, there'd be no theft, there'd be no crime, there'd be civil courts,

00:20:46.860 because sometimes people have disputes.

00:20:48.820 But as a society becomes more factionalized in their backing ideologies, their religion

00:20:53.760 or otherwise, through the system created by the founding fathers, eventually you'll get

00:20:57.720 Dearborn, Michigan with female circumcision in a country that makes it illegal, and people 0.99

00:21:03.560 on the left defending the right to their cultural practices.

00:21:06.960 So what do you do?

00:21:07.600 If you don't want it in your country, you force people to stop.

00:21:12.440 To those who are engaged in those practices that we ban, they'll say, that's tyranny.

00:21:16.500 That's oppression.

00:21:19.680 Yeah, like you said, people live in a certain way, and it doesn't change because they stepped

00:21:25.740 on American soil.

00:21:26.660 There's nothing magical about the dirt in Michigan.

00:21:29.120 If you take someone who doesn't believe in American values, isn't Christian, has a radically 1.00

00:21:34.080 different way of life, and you move them there, they will just live that life.

00:21:37.600 Unless you go through a truly authoritarian level of demands to force them to do this.

00:21:44.120 And this is the problem with multiculturalism. 0.59

00:21:45.760 As you say, a homogenous population shares a worldview.

00:21:48.940 They share an experience.

00:21:49.960 They share a tradition.

00:21:50.900 They might have disagreements inside of it, but it's much closer than ones that are radically

00:21:55.500 different because they come from far different ways, have different religions, have different

00:21:58.800 faiths, understandings, philosophies, all of these things.

00:22:01.240 And so the farther apart the different people inside of your community are, the more authoritarian

00:22:07.040 the government has to become.

00:22:09.200 So if you're asking the average person, they're saying, well, we can have a multiracial, multi-ethnic

00:22:16.300 country, right?

00:22:18.040 Well, there are successful versions of this.

00:22:20.660 You can look at something like Singapore, right?

00:22:22.600 They have a high degree of diversity across the board. 0.98

00:22:26.000 They also will kill you for dealing drugs.

00:22:29.460 They'll cane you for spitting gum on the sidewalk.

00:22:31.900 They know how to force everyone to behave exactly the same way so that civilization can

00:22:36.160 run.

00:22:36.580 That is an option.

00:22:37.900 I don't know if that's the way I want to live, but if you're talking about a highly diverse

00:22:41.560 population with all these different traditions, that tends to be the thing that wins out at

00:22:47.600 the end.

00:22:48.160 Well, this is the reality, right?

00:22:49.380 I don't have to worry about you nor anyone you know, drop and try on the middle of the

00:22:55.760 street and take a dump. 0.97

00:22:57.760 And so in a place like Singapore, when they say don't chew gum and don't spit the gum,

00:23:02.420 gum is banned, you get caned for these infractions.

00:23:05.660 There's public shame if you don't throw away your trash or don't flush a toilet.

00:23:09.100 It's exaggerated, but when I went to Singapore, they said, if you don't flush the toilet, someone

00:23:13.520 will go in and check the stall after you leave and you'll get shamed.

00:23:16.120 But they will mercilessly beat you for violating their rules.

00:23:22.140 Here's the thing.

00:23:23.320 Most of the people don't ever get beaten because they don't break the rules.

00:23:27.140 They have this strict enforcement for the people who are outside of their worldview.

00:23:32.320 It's easy to act like the perfect world is going to be this multicultural society where 0.99

00:23:39.020 we all hold hands, but there are Islamic cultural norms that are completely at odds with the West 1.00

00:23:45.940 that they will not tolerate.

00:23:48.460 So as it goes for immigration, I'm curious if you want to elaborate on what we've been

00:23:53.180 seeing with mass migration.

00:23:55.160 Actually, let me say this because you brought up a good point.

00:23:58.420 And I think I'm looking at the world right now in a very interesting, this divide in an

00:24:02.880 interesting way, Democrats, when in power, are going to allow illegal immigrants into the 0.99

00:24:10.020 country and allow them to stay permanently.

00:24:12.280 They will traffic children. 0.96

00:24:13.440 We saw it under Biden already.

00:24:15.520 There is no more tolerance for this among the right.

00:24:18.600 Would the right win?

00:24:20.060 They will deport these people.

00:24:22.580 Nothing is going to change the minds of either of these nations.

00:24:26.460 They're two distinct nations at this point trying to occupy the same territory or similar

00:24:30.020 territories.

00:24:31.220 This means, in my view, if the Democrats are to get back power, they will make an attempt

00:24:36.540 to militaristically occupy right-leaning places to protect illegal immigrants.

00:24:43.020 As we are seeing the inverse, it seems like the only outcome there is going to be violent

00:24:48.360 resistance at some point to whoever's in charge.

00:24:51.660 Yeah, I think that the mass immigration issue really highlights the existential nature 1.00

00:24:59.700 unfortunately of the political divide.

00:25:02.200 As you point out, every illegal immigrant that a Democrat brings in obviously increases 0.87

00:25:07.560 their eventual voting power.

00:25:09.620 It increases their ability to give handouts to these people and secure power.

00:25:14.100 It dilutes your vote.

00:25:15.680 It ensures all of this different ethnic enclaves that kind of get erected in these areas and 0.99

00:25:22.260 can be peddled to by different Democratic politicians.

00:25:25.000 As we now see people like Ilhan Omar promising to do what she can for Somalia, right?

00:25:29.840 The United States is just kind of a place you go to raid the treasury and get the benefits.

00:25:34.940 It's not, you're not part of the country.

00:25:36.680 You're not actually assimilating all of these things.

00:25:38.940 That's now very common.

00:25:40.500 And if that is allowed to continue to happen, then we can see the danger because Joe Biden

00:25:44.400 brought in, you know, what, 8 million people, at least probably during his open border

00:25:49.380 scheme and Trump, even if he goes just ham on the deportations, would be lucky to get

00:25:54.340 half of those people out.

00:25:55.660 So for every two Biden lets in, if we go absolutely to the wall on the issue, we might get half

00:26:01.820 of them out.

00:26:02.300 And that means that if we switch presidents every eight years, the Democrats are just on

00:26:06.280 an inevitable winning streak, right?

00:26:08.200 And so this, both sides recognize that if this is the game, then winning is everything.

00:26:14.500 Because if you don't stop it, you don't use force, then they're going to continue to do

00:26:17.860 this and the loss is inevitable.

00:26:19.700 I wouldn't be surprised if we get to a point where, you know, we've got Newsom fighting

00:26:25.040 over control of the National Guard, Pritzker, same thing.

00:26:28.340 I would be surprised if, actually, you know what, I'm going to pause my, I'm going to pause

00:26:31.960 right there.

00:26:32.260 We're actually already here.

00:26:33.580 I was going to say that Democrats would offer some kind of amnesty or sanctuary to illegal

00:26:39.200 immigrants if they aid in resisting the federal government.

00:26:42.620 And then I was like, oh, they already do.

00:26:44.080 And they've been doing it for decades with sanctuary policies that have expanded into

00:26:47.640 sanctuary state policies.

00:26:49.380 We're getting to the point now where run-of-the-mill people in the streets are fighting ICE officers

00:26:53.740 to stop them from deporting people.

00:26:56.200 This video I mentioned where the guy's yelling, ayude me, and help me in Spanish, and the people

00:27:00.860 actually do.

00:27:02.200 So we're already there.

00:27:03.060 Democrats are saying, stop the feds.

00:27:05.720 You get sanctuary here.

00:27:07.420 Now, to be fair, we're not formally in this period, but I do think we are dangerously close

00:27:10.800 to a point where local, we've already seen illegal immigrant police officers in places

00:27:16.260 like Minnesota.

00:27:17.180 I wouldn't be surprised if in the coming years we see a place like Illinois say, if you help

00:27:23.320 us repel ICE and shut them down and obstruct them, we will grant you sanctuary, which ultimately

00:27:29.080 could get exacerbated to the point where if we do enter a civil war, an actual formal war

00:27:33.900 where maybe Trump has to federalize local police departments, he occupies Chicago and

00:27:39.620 says, we're in command now, and there's troops, there's Marines.

00:27:42.560 Then you get Democrats saying, join us, undocumented, formally as fighters, and we will grant you

00:27:49.580 citizenship when we win.

00:27:50.640 I think that's the likely direction should this go into full-scale civil war.

00:27:56.320 Yeah, again, that's far from unprecedented.

00:27:58.680 When you look at, again, our first civil war, Lincoln bringing in plenty of Irish and sending 0.99

00:28:03.560 them directly to the front lines, basically importing new troops to fight people in the

00:28:08.180 south, right?

00:28:08.900 But we also know that ultimately, we've seen this cycle of civilizations for things like

00:28:14.120 the Roman Empire, where you have a large number of Goths who end up entering into the military

00:28:18.280 leadership of the empire, and that ends up being eventually the majority of the people

00:28:24.020 who are actually in armed service.

00:28:25.700 And very soon, you have a situation where very few Romans are actually going to war for

00:28:30.660 Rome.

00:28:31.420 And this is increasingly true in the United States, whether it be in the military or in

00:28:35.520 the police department.

00:28:36.660 They're having trouble recruiting a lot of heritage Americans, to be frankly, to be clear, often

00:28:43.140 it's the most dangerous thing in the world to be a white cop on the beat, because as soon

00:28:46.940 as you bust somebody, you're going to end up getting charged with racism and everything.

00:28:51.060 It's much easier if you're a minority, though even then, that doesn't necessarily stop you

00:28:54.700 from getting criticized and getting civil rights lawsuits for different arrests.

00:28:59.480 But ultimately, we see that a lot of these military and police forces are drawing more

00:29:03.460 and more on populations of either early immigrants or possibly even illegal immigrants in the case

00:29:09.000 of law enforcement.

00:29:10.180 And so I think it is entirely reasonable to worry about the idea that they could grant citizenship 1.00

00:29:15.220 or extra benefits to foreigners who are coming in fighting for them.

00:29:18.300 And this is why we always point out that immigration is largely fighting age young men. 1.00

00:29:24.240 It matters that they are military young men for the most part.

00:29:26.780 They're not bringing most of their women.

00:29:28.140 They're not bringing their children.

00:29:29.200 They're not bringing their families.

00:29:30.640 It's guys in their early 20s or early 30s.

00:29:35.640 They're the ones that are coming across the border with no jobs, no way to pay for anything, 1.00

00:29:40.620 no support network.

00:29:41.520 And they are very, very vulnerable to different people who could offer them opportunities,

00:29:46.380 be it pay or anything else, if they would do the fighting for them.

00:29:50.480 You know, what's funny is I saw the story that a Republican bought Dominion voting systems.

00:29:55.920 I haven't read too much into it, but I'm seeing a lot of liberals sharing this story in panic.

00:30:00.980 Because for the longest time, of course, the right, our people on the right, as they argue,

00:30:04.900 that Dominion was rigging the election or something like that. 0.99

00:30:07.060 Well, the left and liberals said that's not true, and you're lying, and you're crazy, 0.99

00:30:11.600 and you're conspiracy theorists. 0.93

00:30:12.520 Now there's a story they're all sharing where they say a Republican bought Dominion,

00:30:15.140 and they're going, oh, no.

00:30:17.080 Like, oh, no, what?

00:30:18.680 Oh, no.

00:30:19.660 The implication is Republicans will rig the elections now, win everything,

00:30:22.880 and just control this country from now on, creating some kind of American empire. 0.80

00:30:26.400 But my response is just, I thought Dominion didn't control elections.

00:30:29.240 Why are they freaking out?

00:30:30.600 I think it's fair to say, though, based on the moves Trump is making,

00:30:33.540 there is a major point being made in his policies pertaining to the midterm elections

00:30:39.480 and the upcoming presidential election to ensure every structural piece is in place

00:30:45.480 that will guarantee a Republican victory.

00:30:48.320 And if Democrats are going to make the argument the election is being stolen,

00:30:51.960 I don't know what to expect.

00:30:53.800 But, Oren, I appreciate you joining me.

00:30:55.760 We're out of time.

00:30:56.420 Where can people find you?

00:30:58.180 Oh, yes.

00:30:58.720 I'm over on Blaze TV.

00:30:59.880 Of course, the Oren McIntyre show is on YouTube and Rumble and all your favorite podcast platforms.

00:31:05.040 And, of course, I'm over on Twitter at Oren McIntyre.

00:31:08.060 Right on, brother.

00:31:08.660 Thanks for hanging out.

00:31:09.520 We'll have to have you on again soon.

00:31:11.540 Thanks for having me.

00:31:12.380 Take care.

00:31:14.820 Right on.

00:31:15.620 That was the great Oren McIntyre, of course, as we discussed a lot of these issues.

00:31:20.840 We could probably talk for another two hours on all of these issues.

00:31:24.420 But I think we need to do like a deep dive, three or four hour discussion.

00:31:30.540 I should write out a bunch of bullet points on issues of the Civil War, the American Civil War, possible Civil War.

00:31:37.100 These points about, you know, Democrats basically making the argument that Trump is gearing up to rig the election using Dominion is why they're saying it. 0.56

00:31:43.060 It's funny because they said you can't.

00:31:45.460 Now they fear you can.

00:31:46.500 And it's not everybody when I say they, it's a handful of liberals I see on X.

00:31:51.140 But maybe.

00:31:52.740 Maybe.

00:31:54.000 We're going to wait and see, I suppose.

00:31:55.160 Smash the like button.

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00:31:59.080 We've got more coming up for you tonight at 8 p.m.

00:32:01.980 TimCast IRL is back.

00:32:03.700 Let me see if I've got the, who do we got lined up on this, the October 13th.

00:32:08.980 Peter Navarro will be joining us, which will be interesting because, you know, they locked him up.

00:32:12.380 And RN actually will be joining us for the Culture War this Friday.

00:32:17.020 So, should be, should be very interesting.

00:32:19.680 I'll leave it there, my friends.

00:32:20.780 Thanks for hanging out.

00:32:21.640 Smash the like button.

00:32:22.920 We're going to get you ready for the next raid.

00:32:26.280 And I, I don't know if we have Russell Brand.

00:32:29.880 I think he's been off for some time.

00:32:31.260 Yeah, he's not currently streaming.

00:32:32.360 So, we might have, is it, I believe DeVorey is going live right now.

00:32:38.880 DeVorey Darkins, I got to hang out with when I was traveling, who's absolutely amazing.

00:32:44.260 Really great work, DeVorey.

00:32:45.400 He is live now.

00:32:46.420 So, we'll get you guys on over to hang out with DeVorey.

00:32:49.060 I recommend it.

00:32:49.740 If you haven't seen him, you've got to see him.

00:32:50.940 He's a good dude.

00:32:51.880 Smart dude.

00:32:53.160 Knows what he's talking about.

00:32:54.320 Thanks for hanging out.

00:32:55.380 And other than that, we will see you all tonight, 8 p.m., TimCast IRL.

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