California Wealth Tax BACKFIRES, Triggers COLLAPSE And EXODUS From State
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Another day, another California Democrats pass a bill that damages the state and causes people to leave. The billionaire tax, the wealth tax, and the "Laffer Curve" are just a few of the issues California is trying to solve.
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Another day, another California Democrats pass bill that damages the state and causes people to leave.
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I remember doing a story several years ago about how bubonic plague actually had reemerged in Los Angeles because the homeless crisis was so bad, people were living in disgusting filth and squalor.
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And now we are seeing moneyed individuals leave.
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And they are already projecting, I kid you not, a budget shortfall.
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For those that aren't familiar, a wealth tax is taxing unrealized gains, which, let me break it down for you.
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If you own a thing and someone else believes it's worth money, you now owe the government.
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A simple way to put it is, if you bought a Pokemon card for $50, and then next year a website says that card is worth $500,
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then the government says, you just made $450 of wealth, and we are taxing that wealth.
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This works very similarly to property taxes, which many people have pointed out.
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Over the long run, results in legacy landowners having to sell off their land, break it up piece by piece to cover taxes on something.
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And thus, powerful individuals are leaving the state.
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I don't know what California thinks it's going to do, but this, my friends, is why taxation is not so simple.
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So I'm going to break all of this down for you, and I'd love to introduce you to something called the Laffer Curve.
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This is the idea that if you increase taxes, you decrease tax revenue.
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But see, as many of these Democrats don't know or care, they simply say, listen, I want to get elected.
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I'm going to tell the people what they want to hear.
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If you try to explain to the general public the Laffer Curve, many of these people are going to be like, dude, I don't even know what you're talking about, man.
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Just take their money from them and give it to me.
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And you're going to be like, listen, they'll just leave.
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California tried at one point passing a law to tax individuals who had lived in the state within the last 10 years.
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You move to Florida, get a job, make money, and California goes, you owe us.
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They tried doing that because they know increasing these taxes will result in the exodus.
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Welcome, my friends, to the failure that is California.
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And I got to warn you, they say that what happens in California happens to the rest of the country five years later.
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The LA Times breaking down the billionaire tax and the exodus.
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A cryptocurrency company sparks backlash with sudden HQ change.
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Additionally, Mark Zuckerberg also fled the state, but who can blame him?
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Let's open this up and zoom in on it so it's easier to see.
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As we can see, Florida is enjoying a massive influx of millionaires.
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Now, Florida does not have an income tax, the personal level, but their property taxes are very high.
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Property taxes are functionally wealth taxes all the same.
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So it's interesting as to why wealthy people are leaving these places.
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Well, the truth is, you don't need to be a landowner to live in Florida.
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And if you're making millions of dollars, hey, you're in a good position.
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You got conservative governance, and they're letting you keep your money.
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The problem with California and the wealth taxes, your wealth is largely coming from your business ownership.
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So what happens when you buy a million dollars in stock to store your money in an investment as a wealthy individual?
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And then California walks over and says, now you owe us money on that.
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You're going to be like, I don't have the money.
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They say, a cryptocurrency company has ignited debate after relocating its headquarters out of California due to a proposed wealth tax that some believe will be bad for business in the state.
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Guys, all you got to do is look up the Laffer curve.
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My friend's dad, when I was late teens, you know, I think I was like 19.
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I don't know how it came up, but he was talking about, oh, I remember, Cook County increased their sales tax by like a fraction of a percent.
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And he said that just nuked tax revenue in the county.
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They had a Home Depot shut down, reopened three miles down the road, costing them tens of millions of dollars.
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Contractors make massive orders, hundreds of thousands of dollars in materials and lumber through Home Depot, who then delivers it.
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If you're going to pay an extra fraction of a percent, you could be looking at numbers from $5,000 to $50,000 per year, and you don't want to spend that money.
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So if there's a Home Depot in Cook County and the taxes go up, the contractors will absolutely order in DuPage even 20 miles away because the drive of 20 miles means literally nothing when you're doing order for millions of dollars in lumber and materials.
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So Home Depot shut the store down and reopened several miles down the road just to be in a different county because they knew they would lose all of their customers.
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Cook County does not get that tax revenue anymore, meaning they raised the taxes and the tax revenue went down because they lost customers.
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Imagine you have an ice cream shop and you charge $20 for a food of ice cream.
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They will drive an extra 15 minutes if it means their ice cream is going to be $4.
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They're not going to buy and give you a portion of the revenue.
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This is what's happening in this cryptocurrency company.
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They said the move comes as California considers a ballot initiative that would impose a one-time tax 5% on residents worth more than $1 billion.
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The Billionaire Tax Act is still gathering signatures, but it's already sparked pushback from some business leaders.
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If approved, it would apply to roughly 200 of the state's wealthiest residents and could raise an estimated $100 billion, much of which would go towards health care.
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You're worth $1 billion, and they say we're going to take 5% from you.
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I'm asking myself, why am I going to give you $50 million, mind you, and I don't even have the cash?
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They say if approved it would apply to roughly 200 of the state's wealthiest residents, this mirrors efforts around the world to raise taxes for the ultra-wealthy.
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BitGo's relocation has drawn attention because the company is preparing for an IPO targeting a valuation of nearly $2 billion.
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While the filing doesn't state why the company moved, CEO Mike Belshi has criticized the proposed attack, saying who in their right mind would found a new business in California if California does this-ish?
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Those in favor of the tax say fears of mass exodus are overblown because most billionaires haven't taken steps to leave.
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Move your Picassos, get a divorce, strategies for California billionaires.
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Yeah, they're absolutely preparing a mass exodus and manipulation of the markets and value.
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I hear this from so many of these leftists, but you're not a millionaire billionaire.
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You're not a millionaire or a billionaire, so why do you care?
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I can't remember about a movie from the 70s, and it was like rent was like $100 a month.
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So let's just do the math and say, in 50 years, rent will be $90,000.
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Let's go back to the 70s when rent was a couple hundred bucks.
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Actually, let me make sure I get the numbers right.
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Which means, how much money will you have to make per year?
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If $45,000 is supposed to be a quarter of your rent.
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They expect you to be making about a million to two million per year to pay that rent.
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If you were making $100,000 a year in the 70s, a six-figure income, now 15 times that.
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A millionaire today, if you make $1.5 million per year, it's the equivalent of a six-figure
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So when they say, we're only taxing the wealthy, yes, but it's insidious.
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And I mean, that's slowly creeping and encroaching because these rules don't get changed for inflation.
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Sooner or later, you will live in a country where people do...
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Imagine today, going to the 1970s and being like, I just can't afford my bills.
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When they first introduced income tax back in the day, in the early 1900s, it was like
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At a waterfront resort in Newport Beach, California, a tax lawyer took the stage in a conference
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A couple hundred wealth advisors had gathered over boneless short ribs and striped bass to
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learn about a sudden hot topic, a proposed tax on billionaires.
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Laughter rang out as Mr. Katzenstein, a partner at Holt House Carlin, explained that a married
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couple worth slightly more than $1 billion would be subject to the tax, but that neither spouse
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would have to pay it if they split up and divided their assets.
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Indeed, if they can bring their assets below a billion, they would not be subject to the
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Otherwise, they're looking for ways to shield much of their wealth as they can.
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Indeed, my friends, it's not just about the exodus.
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It's about the fact that they're not going to be subject to this in the first place.
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What, a hundred years from now, people will all be billionaires?
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The issue is that they are going to damage their economy, and the end result is, well, I have
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Little to gain by raising taxes on the rich by the editorial board of the New York Post
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Everyone knows there's a trade-off between the top rate and revenue familiarly known as
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the Laffer curve, but experts don't agree on how it's shaped, or the current top income
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Let me tell you about progressive taxes, my friend, and I'll give you my perspective.
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I'm actually somewhat in favor of progressive tax system to a certain degree, but let me
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I work 16-hour days and a little bit on the weekends.
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I worked this Sunday on a variety of creative projects, so I work quite a bit.
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I also have to travel on weekends, so it's rough.
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When I work these double shifts, the amount of revenue I generate isn't exponential.
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It's actually a diminishing return, meaning the more I work, the less per hour I make.
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Unfortunately for me, the more I work, the less per hour I make, and the greater it's
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If I were to work only eight-hour days and just cut my workload down, produce substantially
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less, I would keep a larger percentage of the money that I do make.
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I would have more free time, and I'd still be rich.
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Yet for some reason, because of this system, for some reason we have this system, if I work
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eight hours, let's say I make 100% revenue, I work an additional eight hours, I'm only going
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to generate 60% of what I'd make, but I'm going to owe a greater amount of taxes because
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So that extra 60% will be taxed at 37, as opposed to the other, the first 100%, which
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So I'm paying more in taxes, making less, make it make sense.
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I do have some corrections for him, but let me explain it.
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Somebody offers you 500 for it, and you say, no, you love the card, you're keeping it.
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The government says, hey, that's a $500 card now, you owe us 100 in taxes.
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You have an unrealized gain, that card is worth money.
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You don't have $100 lying around, so you're forced to sell the card you love just to pay
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Your card is gone, your money is gone, and the government shrugs.
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You cashed out $350, and you say, well, I guess I made money.
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And you only made 350 because they forced you to sell it.
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And you're sitting there being like, I was smart.
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Let's read more, and we'll put it into context.
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The government says she owes $15,000 she doesn't have because the property value went up.
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So what happens is this four-bedroom house that she bought for $100,000 all those years ago.
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Now the house is worth a million dollars 40 years later, and this happens to a lot of families.
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And they say, we've reassessed your home, and now you owe us $10,000 in taxes.
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And then she has to move into a smaller home because comparable houses are all still a million dollars.
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And she can't afford the taxes on a million-dollar home.
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One year, his business is valued at $2 million on paper.
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So he empties his savings, sells his truck, borrows money to pay it.
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But I'm going to give it to you in a better way.
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After 20 years, it's now a $10 million business.
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The government says, the value of your company is now $10 million.
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So he goes to an investor and says, I can't cover the tax bill on this.
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Five years later, as the company grows and the tax bill grows, he only owes a tiny portion
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His total net worth has actually diminished over time.
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The business that he built, he no longer owns for the most part.
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And he says, man, I just wanted to make something that I could own and break that barrier and
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The difference is that without this tax, 30 years later, he owns 100% of a business.
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And he pays 15 to 17 million in taxes on that sale, puts a cool 30 million in his pocket
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With the wealth tax, he's shaving away at his business, selling it off, desperate to pay
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Now, when the businesses ultimately go down, does he get his money back?
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They say, you owe us on the $100 billion in stock.
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Well, if you can't pay it, then you're screwed.
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He says, OK, I'm going to sell off my stock to pay it.
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And a lot of people are saying, yeah, but Tim, why do I care about a billionaire?
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Because the stock isn't just held by the billionaire.
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It's held by working class individuals who are trying to put their money somewhere that it
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But because of the wealth tax, the market collapses.
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And that's why even Mark Zuckerberg becomes the latest to leave.
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Any top rate above 41% reduces revenue because people leave.
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It's like the sales tax thing I was telling you about.
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Washington Democrats are considering a retreat.
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I beg of these Democrat states, please, please implement these taxes.
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Because then these millionaires, these billionaires are going to be like, I'm voting Republican.
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These Democrat billionaires are like, we're voting Democrat and we're going to give them tons of money.
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And the Democrats went nuts, propped up all this wokeness.
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You end up with a bunch of anti-Israel politicians at the highest level.
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And these pro-Israel billionaires were like, oops, but now they're supporting the Republicans.
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I care about the Democrats' wackaloon policies and taxes being stopped.
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And if these billionaires finally wake up and decide to leave, then good, so be it.
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So when these states tell these billionaires, we're going to tax you, and then Zuckerberg moves to Florida, well, guess what?
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The Florida government's going to say to Zuckerberg, we want you to run your business a specific way.
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I'm not saying the government can go there and be like, you're conservatives now.
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They're going to say, hey, we have laws in this state, right?
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And if you're running your business, you've got to run it the way we expect it to be run.
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Well, Zuckerberg is going to support the people who don't take his money from him.
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So by all means, Democrats, keep playing this game and see what happens.
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From CalMatters, California is still in the red with another big budget deficit projected for next year.
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I'd like to give a golf clap to our Democrat friends.
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I lived in California for quite a bit, and I worked on the homeless issues out there.
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And there was this interesting problem where no matter how much money they pumped into it, it didn't change.
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No matter how much money they spent on the homeless crisis, no matter how many homeless shelters, homelessness just got worse and worse and worse.
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They never actually wanted to address the real cause of homelessness, which is mental illness and, to be honest, the weather.
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Instead, they said, look, I'm running for re-election, and these people are complaining about homelessness.
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There's no way to pay to make the problem go away.
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The only way to remove the homeless is by force.
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We're going to forcefully detain them and bring them to a facility.
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They would put any homeless person under a conservatorship and take any income they would generate, saying, if you can't manage your life, we'll manage it for you.
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And there are challenges there because it means the government could just decide to take someone's assets from them if they deem them homeless.
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What do you think the people of California do when they hear that proposal?
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So the politician says, vote for me, and I'll finally put a stop to this homeless problem by building houses.
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Well, you can't just put a homeless person in a house.
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So if a person can't do the basic things to maintain their own life, how will they maintain a home?
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You see, many of these liberals don't own homes.
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And they don't understand it is a, I'm not going to swear, it is difficult to be a landlord.
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I'm not saying landlords have it the hardest in the world.
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I've rented property in the past, short term, and decided I am never doing this again.
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Well, the truth is the tenant probably broke the refrigerator.
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Okay, well, the reality is they probably broke the AC and you've got to fix it.
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And the people who are living there could be good or bad tenants.
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It is not the easiest thing in the world to just be a landlord.
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And often, you're not really making that much money.
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And it wasn't because I wanted to be a landlord.
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You were doing no work and you were making money off money.
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Except the cost of maintaining the property was more than I actually made in rent.
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Cashed out a decent profit from the original price.
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But this is what these liberals don't understand.
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So you end up with a country, a state like California.
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What to know about plague after a new case in California.
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I should just do a whole segment on plague popping up in California again.
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There was a report that I saw that said Republicans have a Latino voter problem because of ICE.
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It means that there are Latino voters that care more about their illegal immigrant friends and family members than this country.
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Their friends and family are non-citizens and they will vote on their behest.
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That means every time you do this, you are eroding the borders of your nation.
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So in California, voter ID could change the game because it makes ballot harvesting much more difficult.
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California is five years ahead of the rest of the country.
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If that's the case, I hope you're ready to get cooked.
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But I would be remiss if I did not at least present this from Business Insider.
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I'm happy to pay higher taxes since I have more wealth.
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With all due respect to this guy, Scott Ellis, how much do you want to bet he's got his money in some kind of tax loophole?
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I don't like the phrase loophole when people are paying taxes the way they were told to pay taxes.
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Loophole implies they were told to do something and they found a way not to.
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How much do you want to bet this guy has a wealth manager who makes sure that he pays the least amount of taxes possible?
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Taxes are the price I pay to live in a civil society.
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Because California is the homeless capital of the developed world.
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And they're not taking your tax money to fix it.
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They're just living like fat pigs off your tax money.
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When the cop pulls you over and you go, the bribe I give you is the price I pay to live here.
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Not in California, but in certain countries, right?
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It's not solving the problems, but that's the price you pay.
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I've been struck by the massive accumulation of wealth.
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Well, the question of want and what does need really mean?
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You could live off right now, I think like $150 a year in most places on average.
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Cities are more expensive than they bring the average up.
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The point is about motivating people to work extra.
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I'm not going to call myself the smartest person in the world or the room,
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but smart enough to run businesses and be creative, to make money.
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So, if I'm told that working more will give me less, I just say, eh, why bother?
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But I'll tell you this, California, you do you.
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And then we'll do what we can to make sure the rest of the country don't look like you.
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