The Culture War - Tim Pool - Charlie Kirk Assassination Sparks Civil War Fears

00:00:00.000 Hi, you have a package for me? Name's Aaron.

00:00:03.000 Aaron, thank goodness. I'll get your packages.

00:00:05.000 Packages? There's more than one?

00:00:07.000 Ten boxes, all from the Cuckoo Club.

00:00:10.000 I joined the free trial to get one clock and forgot to cancel, obviously.

00:00:14.000 You should get a BMO account.

00:00:15.000 Why BMO?

00:00:16.000 Their app notifies you when a free trial turns into a paid subscription.

00:00:19.000 Huh, that would be helpful. They're quite loud.

00:00:22.000 Really? I hadn't noticed.

00:00:25.000 Keep track of your spending with BMO Insights.

00:00:27.000 Learn more at BMO.com.

00:00:28.000 BMO.

00:00:30.000 The reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder proves America is closer than ever to its next civil war.

00:00:37.000 A question that has been going viral.

00:00:39.000 Not so much a question for many people, but a statement.

00:00:42.000 People on the left and the right are screaming civil war.

00:00:45.000 Many in the middle are asking, is this a civil war?

00:00:49.000 And of course, you're all saying here comes Tim Pool once again to talk about civil war.

00:00:53.000 Maybe the reality is just that my predictions are correct.

00:00:59.000 Not completely, not 100%.

00:01:01.000 They're all rather vague to a certain degree.

00:01:04.000 But I have been saying for some time, based on the news, the path we are leading to mathematically leads us towards civil war.

00:01:12.000 I have some ideas about what that may or may not look like.

00:01:15.000 I don't believe it's a guarantee.

00:01:17.000 I don't think we are actually in a civil war right now.

00:01:21.000 We are in a period known as civil strife.

00:01:23.000 That's the academics describe it.

00:01:25.000 But we have numerous articles.

00:01:26.000 So allow me not to waste your time that I can show you.

00:01:29.000 Here's The Independent.

00:01:30.000 The New York Times.

00:01:32.000 Civil war mentioned Sir John Liner to Kirk's assassination.

00:01:36.000 Here's Wired.

00:01:37.000 War is here.

00:01:38.000 The far right responds to Charlie Kirk shooting with calls for violence.

00:01:42.000 The L.A. Times.

00:01:43.000 From Charlie Kirk to Supreme Court backlash.

00:01:45.000 Civil war historians see modern parallels.

00:01:47.000 Alternate.

00:01:48.000 Desensitization to political violence takes America back to the pre-Civil War era.

00:01:53.000 We have this in the Times of Israel to two nations or civil war America must choose the best title, in my opinion, from the Atlantic strawberries in winter.

00:02:03.000 Most Americans do not want civil war.

00:02:06.000 Anyone who is declaring it should stop, which is actually a really fascinating headline in that it is inadvertently a direct quote from me from like seven or eight years ago.

00:02:15.000 In which I pointed out that when civil war happens, you will not be able to get off season, out of season fruits.

00:02:23.000 No more strawberries in winter.

00:02:25.000 Then we have this from Reuters.

00:02:27.000 Nation on edge.

00:02:28.000 Experts warn of vicious spiral and political violence after Kirk killing poly market.

00:02:33.000 Albeit the market is slow.

00:02:35.000 Not the most prominent U.S.

00:02:38.000 Civil War in twenty twenty five with only a three percent chance.

00:02:41.000 I bring that up just because many people are upset that they're asking the question.

00:02:45.000 And so here we are.

00:02:47.000 Will there be a civil war?

00:02:50.000 Are we in a civil war?

00:02:52.000 Stephen Marsh is the expert.

00:02:54.000 I defer to him.

00:02:55.000 It's more of a liberal persuasion.

00:02:57.000 And he's written a book called The Next Civil War.

00:03:00.000 And I've interviewed him.

00:03:02.000 I think we've had him on three times.

00:03:04.000 Would love to have him on again.

00:03:05.000 And he makes a lot of very good points.

00:03:07.000 And he and I see a lot of the similar a lot of similar things, though.

00:03:11.000 I'm not tracking this the same way he does.

00:03:14.000 And I think he has biases based in the lies from the corporate press.

00:03:18.000 In his view, the threat of civil war comes largely from the right.

00:03:22.000 I'll break down why I think that is largely incorrect, not completely incorrect.

00:03:27.000 There's always a little bit of truth, but an overestimation.

00:03:30.000 The real threat, in my opinion, comes from the left.

00:03:33.000 And the reason why is that the fringes of the right wing that engage in violence are renounced, are rejected by the right.

00:03:42.000 The person who killed Charlie Kirk, based on all available evidence that which has been presented by the FBI, the DOJ, as well as even confirmed by Axios with six sources.

00:03:54.000 The shooter was motivated by trans ideology, likely because of a roommate or lover that this man lived with that was trans.

00:04:03.000 There's evidence that numerous trans individuals had foreknowledge of the shooting, saying specific dates and Charlie Kirk, something was going to happen to him, things of that nature.

00:04:13.000 Now, we don't know exactly for sure.

00:04:15.000 And the investigation is still underway.

00:04:17.000 But right now, all evidence points to defense of transgender ideology against Charlie Kirk, who had just answered a question about transgender mass shooters when he was shot and killed.

00:04:29.000 Transgender ideology is not fringe far left.

00:04:32.000 It is mainstream Democrat ideology.

00:04:37.000 That is, you will see run of the mill moderate Democrats espousing this ideology.

00:04:43.000 You will see the most moderate of liberals claiming.

00:04:47.000 Making claims in line with this ideology.

00:04:51.000 The violence that we see from the far left is not being denounced.

00:04:55.000 They are celebrating it.

00:04:57.000 And now they are deflecting, putting up lies, claiming that it was Nick Fuentes who, in fact,

00:05:03.000 radicalized a right wing griper into killing a conservative, which makes literally no sense.

00:05:10.000 Now, by all means, the liberals are going to tell each other that clearly the right wing is just so dangerous that they kill each other.

00:05:18.000 They're going to say that I'm lying.

00:05:19.000 They're going to say I'm wrong.

00:05:20.000 I've brought some receipts.

00:05:21.000 But this video is not so much talk about who's responsible, but more so what's happening and approach it from a bit of an analytical point of view.

00:05:29.000 I'm sure all of you have the question, is this a civil war?

00:05:33.000 Hence, it is trending.

00:05:35.000 It is trending on X and on Google.

00:05:38.000 And all of these articles have been written.

00:05:40.000 I want to read for you a bit from this, from the independent.

00:05:44.000 The reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder proves America is closer than ever to its next civil war.

00:05:48.000 I won't read the full thing, but there are some points Stephen Marsh makes that I want to read with you.

00:05:53.000 He says.

00:05:55.000 We'll start from the beginning.

00:05:57.000 It took days for the suspect in the shooting of Charlie Kirk to be named, but the identity of the killer and his reasons for killing hardly matter in the wider picture.

00:06:05.000 The fallout is utterly predictable.

00:06:07.000 Divided America will divide further. 0.86

00:06:09.000 Political violence already surging will surge further.

00:06:12.000 America will continue further down the road to the perdition of the Republic.

00:06:16.000 When I published the next civil war in 2022, the experts on civil war and assassination I spoke with were clear.

00:06:22.000 I spoke with were clear with me.

00:06:24.000 What is uniquely dangerous about the current moment the United States faces is not the political violence in itself, but the collective reaction to it.

00:06:31.000 America is now and it has always been an outlier for political violence.

00:06:35.000 Far more political figures have been murdered in American history than in the history of any other democracy.

00:06:41.000 He says it was understood the violence perpetrated by whoever was a disaster for the body politic as a whole.

00:06:47.000 Politics exists, after all, to save us from violence as a means of resolving disputes.

00:06:51.000 Agreed.

00:06:52.000 Agreed.

00:06:53.000 The sense of collective mourning no longer applies.

00:06:56.000 The reaction to Kirk's death instantaneously split American discourse.

00:07:00.000 Here was a 31 year old man murdered in broad daylight in front of his wife and children before a crowd of thousands at Utah Valley University.

00:07:08.000 Americans could not agree that that was unacceptable.

00:07:11.000 I don't want to promote or identify people on social media who crowed about the death, crowed about the death.

00:07:17.000 Like their team had just won a football game, but on my feeds at least, it was not limited to a few cranks or extremists.

00:07:24.000 What about the children killed in Colorado?

00:07:27.000 It was a perfectly common sentiment.

00:07:29.000 Anyone on the left who imagines the political assassination of their opponents is going to lead to more stability or a better America is seriously, seriously deluded.

00:07:36.000 The right in America has responded with blood curdling threats of retribution.

00:07:40.000 Donald Trump blamed the radical left for the shooting and promised a crackdown, saying its rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we are seeing in our country today.

00:07:48.000 In his Oval Office address, he then omitted violence against Democrats from a list of politically motivated attacks, incidents of what he termed radical left political violence.

00:07:57.000 I don't disagree with Stephen Marsh.

00:08:00.000 It doesn't matter what you think is true or not.

00:08:02.000 The left lives in their world.

00:08:04.000 The right lives in their world.

00:08:05.000 And where Stephen Marsh and I had disagreed when he said the right is more violence and more dangerous.

00:08:10.000 Bro, I don't live under armed guard security because right wingers are threatening me.

00:08:16.000 Now, I know the responses, but you're on the right, Tim, whatever that means.

00:08:20.000 Even though I consider myself to be moderately liberal, I even use preferred pronouns.

00:08:24.000 Can you believe it?

00:08:25.000 It doesn't matter.

00:08:26.000 I am not aligned with the far left transgender ideology, even when I'm saying I'm willing to use their preferred pronouns.

00:08:32.000 It's not enough.

00:08:33.000 Hi, I'm Chris Gethard, and I'm very excited to tell you about Beautiful Anonymous, a podcast where I talk to random people on the phone.

00:08:40.000 I tweet out a phone number.

00:08:41.000 Thousands of people try to call.

00:08:42.000 We talk to one of them.

00:08:43.000 They stay anonymous.

00:08:44.000 I can't hang up.

00:08:45.000 That's all the rules.

00:08:46.000 I never know what's going to happen.

00:08:48.000 We get serious ones.

00:08:49.000 I've talked with meth dealers on their way to prison.

00:08:51.000 I've talked to people who survived mass shootings.

00:08:53.000 Crazy funny ones.

00:08:54.000 I talked to a guy with a goose laugh.

00:08:56.000 Somebody who dresses up as a pirate on the weekends.

00:08:58.000 I never know what's going to happen.

00:09:00.000 It's a great show.

00:09:01.000 Subscribe today.

00:09:02.000 Beautiful Anonymous.

00:09:03.000 But then they say Groypers killed Charlie Kirk.

00:09:08.000 OK, so which is it?

00:09:09.000 I've never been threatened by a Groyper. 1.00

00:09:11.000 I've asked.

00:09:12.000 I've been asked for debates.

00:09:13.000 Why would they go after Charlie Kirk?

00:09:15.000 Why would a Groyper live with a trans person if that's all that was happening? 1.00

00:09:18.000 The truth is this.

00:09:19.000 It doesn't matter what you think is true.

00:09:22.000 It doesn't matter what even actually is true at the end of the day, because the left will believe what they deem to be true in the right will believe what they didn't be true.

00:09:29.000 And that is enough for each side to declare war on each other.

00:09:34.000 Already we're seeing people severing ties.

00:09:37.000 I have friends that have celebrated the death of Charlie Kirk, and I do not want to ever interact with them again.

00:09:43.000 Charlie was my friend.

00:09:44.000 I'm not saying that I was best friends of the guy or we were really good friends or anything like that.

00:09:48.000 I'm saying I just texted him a week ago.

00:09:51.000 It's absolutely insane feeling to me.

00:09:53.000 He had helped our crew.

00:09:54.000 It had been good to us.

00:09:56.000 He had moved mountains to have us be a part of his events.

00:09:59.000 He had come on the show numerous times.

00:10:01.000 I have just behind me a drawing made by Jessica here at Timcast.

00:10:07.000 Which way am I pointing?

00:10:08.000 There we go.

00:10:09.000 He had autographed it for us.

00:10:10.000 We hung it on our wall, along with many others.

00:10:12.000 And we have a signed autographed poster from him.

00:10:14.000 He was a good man.

00:10:15.000 And he was good to us.

00:10:16.000 And he was good to many people.

00:10:18.000 I have friends celebrating his death.

00:10:20.000 They know that I was friends with the guy.

00:10:23.000 What am I supposed to do?

00:10:25.000 How do I sit down with the person and look me in the eyes and say that Charlie deserved it?

00:10:29.000 So I get it.

00:10:30.000 I'm clearly on one side of this.

00:10:32.000 But Stephen is correct.

00:10:34.000 He says journalists are now targets.

00:10:36.000 Let's be real.

00:10:37.000 Charlie Kirk was not a journalist.

00:10:39.000 He was an activist.

00:10:40.000 He had a podcast.

00:10:41.000 He spoke about what he believed in.

00:10:43.000 He did not make laws.

00:10:45.000 He was a civilian advocate who was killed while giving statements, giving answers, taking questions.

00:10:54.000 They now show images of Charlie Kirk that I can't I can't show cartoons and T-shirts.

00:10:59.000 It says debate this and blood is spraying from his neck.

00:11:02.000 Tell me how a nation recovers from this bifurcation.

00:11:05.000 Let's read more.

00:11:07.000 I'm going to scroll down a little bit.

00:11:09.000 The effect of violence on journalism in the United States will be the same as the effect on violence on any institution.

00:11:14.000 It will corrode the capacity to function slowly but surely.

00:11:16.000 Already, the fact that Trump is having all American flags lower to half mast in Kirk's memory is a subtle but toxic gesture.

00:11:22.000 He was their guy.

00:11:23.000 So he's therefore a national hero.

00:11:25.000 American journalists from now on will be functionaries of a political order.

00:11:29.000 They'll be subject to the hyper partisanship that has afflicted all other aspects of American life.

00:11:34.000 And you see what he said.

00:11:36.000 It was a subtle but toxic gesture to lower the flags for Charlie Kirk.

00:11:41.000 We live in two different worlds, even Stephen Marsh.

00:11:45.000 Charlie Kirk embodied the democracy Democrats claim to want.

00:11:48.000 He only spoke.

00:11:50.000 He was he proposed.

00:11:53.000 He pushed nonviolence debate.

00:11:55.000 He offered you a chance to debate him anywhere, anytime.

00:11:58.000 That's what it's supposed to be.

00:12:00.000 And in response, they said, no, he was a bigot who spread hate. 1.00

00:12:05.000 And they argue he deserved to die. 0.95

00:12:07.000 Now, I'm not speaking of Stephen Marsh, but he called it toxic to honor Charlie Kirk.

00:12:13.000 When Ruth Bader Ginsburg died.

00:12:16.000 Trump came out and he said, wow, she was an amazing woman. 0.91

00:12:19.000 She let whatever you like disagree to disagree.

00:12:21.000 She led an amazing life.

00:12:22.000 When Charlie dies, they say he was toxic and it's toxic to support him.

00:12:27.000 We live in two completely different worlds.

00:12:30.000 He says, I remember when I was in the middle of writing the next civil war.

00:12:33.000 The January six insurrection happened.

00:12:35.000 He calls it an insurrection.

00:12:36.000 We live in two different worlds.

00:12:38.000 And a friend of mine called me to commiserate over what he assumed was the death of my book.

00:12:42.000 He really believed the storming of the capital would be a wake up call.

00:12:45.000 And that reasonable people would get together to put an end to political violence of roaming America.

00:12:49.000 He was wrong.

00:12:50.000 The American people are developing a taste for the dehumanization of the other.

00:12:53.000 The right has so far been responsible for almost all of the political violence in the United States.

00:12:57.000 But the left is fast, fast catching up.

00:12:59.000 Luigi Mangione, who shot a man for being the CEO of a health insurance company, has shrines in New York.

00:13:05.000 Now, here's where I would like to debunk.

00:13:08.000 You see, Stephen Marsh probably would admit this to be true, actually.

00:13:12.000 The problem we have with claiming the right is responsible for the violence is that Stephen Marsh told me he's referring to sovereign citizen types and anti-government or white supremacist types who actually have no place in mainstream modern American politics.

00:13:25.000 They exist on the fringes of what is only tangentially described as the right.

00:13:29.000 For some reason.

00:13:31.000 I don't know why racial identitarians are right wing when Charlie Kirk said he wanted a race neutral country and the favorite Supreme Court justice of everyone on the right is Clarence Thomas.

00:13:41.000 But you see what they do.

00:13:43.000 If a racist kills someone, he's right wing.

00:13:45.000 And then Charlie Kirk, who is opposed to racism, is of the same political category.

00:13:51.000 Meanwhile, on the left, when George Floyd dies, every every liberal, every Democrat and every leftist is aligned on the issue of George Floyd and they riot.

00:14:00.000 And even Kamala Harris raises money.

00:14:03.000 There is a strong difference.

00:14:05.000 And so therein lies the problem.

00:14:07.000 So the right says, no, we're not.

00:14:10.000 We don't engage in violence. 0.99

00:14:11.000 And the left looks over and points at some psychotic racist and says, you're racist. 0.99

00:14:16.000 And so is he. 1.00

00:14:17.000 Therefore, all of you.

00:14:18.000 But I'll give you the real facts.

00:14:21.000 The shooter in the Charlie Kirk case right now, according to data, was transgender aligned ideologically.

00:14:28.000 That is not the right.

00:14:30.000 That is mainstream Democrat.

00:14:33.000 And how are the Democrats responding while many cheer, as he pointed out, for his death?

00:14:38.000 They're also just lying about it.

00:14:41.000 I believe I have the tweet here.

00:14:43.000 Politics girl, as I've shown throughout the day, made a fake video. 1.00

00:14:49.000 Let's play it.

00:14:50.000 So, hi, I haven't spoken about the Charlie Kirk murder until now because we didn't know anything.

00:14:55.000 And since my channel was created not to report the news, but to make sense of it, I felt like the only responsible thing to do was to wait until there was more information.

00:15:03.000 It now appears that the person who shot and killed right wing political commentator Charlie Kirk was like the majority of shooters in America, a young white male from a conservative pro gun religious background.

00:15:13.000 Full stop, who lived with a transgender biologically male partner who there is evidence was commenting in Antifa and leftist subreddits.

00:15:24.000 There are transgender individuals that appear to have had foreknowledge making posts online and coming from a background does not describe the individual.

00:15:32.000 What she just did was a standard manipulation technique, non-information to make you assume we call this assumptive language or assumptive reasoning.

00:15:41.000 That is to say, a man came from a religious background and then you move on.

00:15:47.000 But what if what if she actually explained the true facts of the individual?

00:15:52.000 He came from a religious background and came to reject it or that his background had nothing to do with it.

00:15:57.000 There's more. 0.91

00:15:58.000 After being told for two straight days that the left had declared war on America, that the shooter was most likely trans or in Congresswoman Nancy Mace's words, pro tranny.

00:16:07.000 After the Wall Street Journal published an article they had to later walk back that the bullets had a pro trans message because it turned out to be just the markings of one of the world's biggest ammunition factories.

00:16:16.000 Full stop.

00:16:17.000 Full stop.

00:16:18.000 That's a lie.

00:16:19.000 An abject, overt lie. 0.89

00:16:21.000 As we all know, one of the bullets said, hey, fascist catch.

00:16:26.000 They're saying on the left that this was a video game reference, not that he actually shot Charlie Kirk, who was trans critical and has been called a fascist, but by all means, I'll give him that one. 0.92

00:16:40.000 Sure.

00:16:41.000 It said, what did it have?

00:16:42.000 Up, right, down, down, down, which is a Helldivers 2 reference.

00:16:45.000 Throw it away.

00:16:46.000 Notices bulge, O-W-O. 1.00

00:16:49.000 Online meme referencing people online who are trans or furries messaging each other.

00:16:53.000 It's not homophobic, pro or anti anything.

00:16:55.000 It's a meme. 0.99

00:16:56.000 Or how about one that said, if you read this, you are gay, L-M-A-O. 0.99

00:17:00.000 They're calling that homophobic. 0.99

00:17:01.000 Homophobic.

00:17:02.000 Nope.

00:17:03.000 It's just childish humor.

00:17:04.000 But the one I won't give them is O Bella Ciao.

00:17:07.000 Ciao, ciao, ciao.

00:17:08.000 That is an esoteric, overt Antifa song from Italy in World War Two.

00:17:14.000 Currently being sung by people, Antifa leftists, mocking Charlie Kirk in New York.

00:17:22.000 By all accounts, this guy was left aligned.

00:17:25.000 My point is this.

00:17:26.000 Tell me I'm wrong and disagree with me.

00:17:28.000 But when you have individuals like this that will not be honest at the bare minimum and

00:17:33.000 say, here are the facts that we think we know, but will outright lie.

00:17:38.000 I can show you the community notes.

00:17:40.000 Tyler Robinson is officially registered as unaffiliated.

00:17:43.000 Utah Governor Charlie Cox stated that he was indoctrinated by the left.

00:17:46.000 The governor said that.

00:17:48.000 While the shooter did come from a conservative background, the governor of Utah and the FBAF

00:17:52.000 confirmed that leftist ideology was behind the murder.

00:17:54.000 At least that is what is believed right now.

00:17:56.000 Maybe it's wrong.

00:17:57.000 That's fine.

00:17:58.000 I don't think that he was a leftist, hardcore leftist, but gender ideology is a left aligned

00:18:04.000 ideology and it's aligned with mainstream Democrat positions.

00:18:07.000 This is not me saying this to condemn Democrats, but to point out, my friends, when liberals are

00:18:14.000 dancing on the grave or lying about what happened to solidify their worldview.

00:18:19.000 There is no reality in which we are sharing space. 0.86

00:18:22.000 You will go out and say Charlie Kirk did not insult black women.

00:18:27.000 He called black children a gift from God.

00:18:29.000 In fact, he did.

00:18:31.000 And they will put out fake quotes.

00:18:34.000 To justify his assassination, they have put out lists with my name on it.

00:18:40.000 I condemn violence always never called for violence once.

00:18:44.000 I think violence doesn't solve any problems.

00:18:47.000 Yet here we are.

00:18:48.000 The New York Times.

00:18:50.000 Civil War mentioned surge online.

00:18:52.000 The term has increasingly been invoked on social media for major political moments.

00:18:56.000 Take a look here.

00:18:59.000 War is here.

00:19:00.000 The far right responds.

00:19:02.000 The left will share this article.

00:19:03.000 The right probably won't.

00:19:05.000 Many on the right are saying war is here, but they're not declaring it.

00:19:09.000 This article mentions, I believe they mentioned Andrew Tate saying civil war.

00:19:13.000 I've also said civil war before.

00:19:15.000 What they do is they intentionally take that and say you've called for civil war instead

00:19:20.000 of just pointing out where we're going because they want it.

00:19:24.000 Then they accuse you of wanting it.

00:19:27.000 Doesn't matter which side you're on.

00:19:28.000 If you're a liberal, fine.

00:19:29.000 Believe what you want to believe.

00:19:30.000 But, you know, I'm right.

00:19:32.000 All I'm saying is when I tweet civil war because something happened and I'm saying this is what's 0.81

00:19:38.000 happening, they then write articles saying Tim Pool calls for a civil war.

00:19:42.000 I have never called for a civil war.

00:19:44.000 I think it's the biggest mistake we'll make in this country.

00:19:46.000 I believe the left wants it because they'll destroy the Constitution.

00:19:51.000 But what is true is the left will believe it.

00:19:54.000 They'll say the right is causing it.

00:19:56.000 Even Stephen Marsh called it toxic to pull down the flags to half mast for Charlie Kirk.

00:20:02.000 The L.A. Times.

00:20:04.000 Professor Kevin Waite had just finished a seminar on the run up of the American Civil War on Friday

00:20:08.000 when a student cautiously raised her hand.

00:20:10.000 Can I ask about the Charlie Kirk situation?

00:20:12.000 The student, he said, wondered whether recent events carried any echoes of the past.

00:20:16.000 Hyperbolic comparisons between modern political conflict and the horrific bloodshed of the past

00:20:21.000 centuries have previously been the stuff of doomsday prepper threads on Reddit.

00:20:25.000 But this week's shooting made it mainstream topic of conversation.

00:20:28.000 While cautioning the country is nowhere near as fractured as it was when the Civil War erupted,

00:20:33.000 Waite and other scholars of the period say they do increasingly see parallels.

00:20:37.000 Our current political moment is really resonating with the 1850s.

00:20:40.000 He and other scholars note similarities between the deployment of troops to American cities,

00:20:44.000 widespread disillusionment with the Supreme Court and spasms of political violence,

00:20:48.000 especially from disaffected young men.

00:20:50.000 What we call polarization, they call sectionalism.

00:20:53.000 And I believe that's right.

00:20:56.000 And in the 1850s, there was a growing sense that the sections of the country were pulling apart.

00:21:00.000 Even before Kirk's alleged assassin was publicly identified as a 22 year old who left anti-fascist messages,

00:21:07.000 President Trump blamed the shooting on the radical left for political violence.

00:21:10.000 Well, he was right, wasn't he?

00:21:13.000 Conservative influencers amplified the rhetoric.

00:21:16.000 With Trump ally Laura Loomer opposing an ex, more people will be murdered.

00:21:19.000 The left isn't crushed with the power of the state.

00:21:21.000 But it's a fact statement.

00:21:23.000 Aaron Danielson was shot and killed in cold blood by Michael Reinhold in Portland,

00:21:27.000 simply walking down the street.

00:21:29.000 In Provo, Utah, a BLM rioter ran up to a car for no reason and shot the driver.

00:21:35.000 We don't even know why.

00:21:38.000 Trump supporters get routinely attacked and threatened, though times have changed a bit since the past 10 years.

00:21:44.000 I've been swatted 15 times.

00:21:46.000 The bomb squad has been to our studio numerous times.

00:21:48.000 We've been forced to evacuate from credible threats.

00:21:50.000 A man in a dress just last year showed up on our old property and physically attacked one of its residents.

00:21:56.000 We don't even work there anymore.

00:21:58.000 That's how insane this is.

00:22:01.000 Now, I'm not saying the rights not violent or capable of it.

00:22:05.000 I think that the sections of the right that are are not part of Charlie Kirk's message.

00:22:11.000 They're not at Turning Point USA.

00:22:14.000 Mainstream Democrats, they fundraised for the BLM rioters who burned these cities down. 1.00

00:22:21.000 They called they called it in defense of looting.

00:22:24.000 We are not the same.

00:22:28.000 They're going to say some aspects of modern politics are worryingly similar.

00:22:32.000 What almost scares me more than the violence itself is the reaction to it.

00:22:35.000 It was paranoia.

00:22:36.000 The perception that this violence was unstoppable that really sent the nation spiraling towards civil war in 1860 and 61.

00:22:42.000 Top of the mind for weight was paramilitary political movements known as the wide awakes.

00:22:48.000 Hundreds of thousands of torch toting black capped abolitionist youths who took to the streets out of frustration with their Republican reps.

00:22:56.000 There was this perception that anti slavery Republicans hadn't sufficiently been aggressive.

00:23:01.000 Wait said he believed that he said they believed that it was the slaveholders that were really pushing their agenda much more forcefully, much more violently.

00:23:12.000 And anti slavery politicians couldn't just sit down and take it anymore. 0.61

00:23:15.000 Most Democratic politicians of the era were fighting to expand slavery to the Western territories.

00:23:21.000 The wide awakes struck terror in their hearts for their political opponents.

00:23:26.000 It was really a scary spectacle.

00:23:28.000 Anytime a cotton gin burned down in the South, they pointed the wide awakes and other more radical anti slavery, northerners.

00:23:34.000 This is arson.

00:23:35.000 The South was highly militarized.

00:23:38.000 Every adult white man was part of a local militia.

00:23:40.000 It was like a social club.

00:23:41.000 So it was easy to take these local militias and turn them into anti abolitionist defense units.

00:23:45.000 Legal scholars have already noted striking similarities between Trump's use of the military to aid his mass deportation effort.

00:23:51.000 The Trump administration has leaned on constitutional maneuvers used to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act,

00:23:56.000 a divisive law that empowered state slave catchers from the South to make arrests in northern states.

00:24:02.000 I argue it was the fugitive crisis more than the territorial crisis that drove the coming Civil War.

00:24:07.000 The resistance in the North essentially made the fugitive slave law dead letter.

00:24:11.000 Now, I have made the argument.

00:24:14.000 One idea is that a potential path in this country towards civil war is the immigration of vice. 0.96

00:24:21.000 I'm sorry.

00:24:22.000 I'm sorry.

00:24:23.000 The law enforcement, the enforcement of immigration laws.

00:24:27.000 Sorry.

00:24:28.000 If this is to follow a more social liberal left aligned world, then you get Trump arresting illegal immigrants through National Guard or through ICE.

00:24:43.000 The left rejects this and says these are our neighbors and friends and they deserve rights.

00:24:48.000 The left makes the argument that the right was seeking to restrict the human rights of undocumented citizens, which is a phrase they've used.

00:25:00.000 Should the right lose the civil war, illegal immigrants will be granted amnesty. 0.62

00:25:05.000 The borders will be opened and the argument will be no person is illegal and humans, regardless of citizenship status, get human rights.

00:25:14.000 That appears to be the liberal economic world orders agenda.

00:25:19.000 This would create a one world state where anyone is free to move in any direction, not immediately, but with the end of slavery in the United States, which was.

00:25:32.000 Nationwide and for hundreds of years and internationally, how things were handled, certain people were not free to move about and do whatever they wanted.

00:25:39.000 They were owned with the defeat of the Democrats by the Republicans, the north of the south and eventually the total abolition of slavery.

00:25:48.000 No longer could a person be owned.

00:25:50.000 The left is using similar logic right now.

00:25:53.000 If you enter the border in violation of our laws, it is the law that is unjust.

00:25:59.000 You are free to come.

00:26:00.000 And should the right lose, they will amend the Constitution to say all humans are granted these rights and can vote and can freely move about the country.

00:26:12.000 They will abolish the idea of citizenship, which.

00:26:17.000 Is a massive goal of the liberal economic order.

00:26:20.000 If the right wins, however, the far left fringe ideology will be dismantled.

00:26:25.000 The United States will be protected, its borders restored, and this would be the end of the liberal economic order.

00:26:32.000 I don't know what's going to happen or who's going to win.

00:26:35.000 We don't know.

00:26:37.000 One thing that I find truly fascinating is that strawberries in winter.

00:26:41.000 In this Atlantic article, they're not citing me, which I actually was.

00:26:47.000 I thought they were actually quoting.

00:26:49.000 Maybe I'm just arrogant.

00:26:50.000 I don't know.

00:26:51.000 But I've been talking about this for a long time to the point where I get made fun of for it.

00:26:55.000 And strawberries in winter is actually the point I've made over and over and over again.

00:26:59.000 They're going to mention this woman.

00:27:01.000 McCord.

00:27:03.000 I believe it's a woman, right?

00:27:05.000 Mary McCord.

00:27:07.000 She suggested America's salvation would come from widespread attachment to the mundane.

00:27:11.000 Americans don't like it when they can't get strawberries in winter, she went on.

00:27:14.000 This idea of revolution really is that really what you want?

00:27:17.000 It's no fun.

00:27:18.000 To literally the point I've made.

00:27:20.000 I've mentioned what civil war might look like, and I'll go through it right now for you.

00:27:26.000 Because when I turn on the news, I feel like we may be looking at it.

00:27:29.000 But the one thing I've mentioned is that you're not going to have avocados anymore and no more strawberries in winter.

00:27:35.000 Strawberries in winter is a really great example of modern luxury.

00:27:38.000 There are certain parts of this North and South America where they grow strawberries and they ship them in refrigeration trucks to you in New York.

00:27:46.000 So while you're surrounded by snow, there's strawberries.

00:27:48.000 There's also greenhouses, but not really where they're making them.

00:27:51.000 In a civil war, this would be a tremendous luxury and be too expensive for the average person.

00:27:56.000 But I'm going to show you what civil war looks like.

00:28:00.000 From the Post Millennial, two men arrested after allegedly planting explosive device under Fox affiliate news vehicle in Magna, Utah.

00:28:07.000 Fox 13 had a bomb allegedly planted under their vehicle.

00:28:13.000 NBC News.

00:28:15.000 Student shot after mistaken ID mishap.

00:28:18.000 The institution in Maryland was placed on lockdown after a former student made threats online that appeared as though they were on campus.

00:28:25.000 USA Today.

00:28:26.000 Classes canceled heightened security at multiple HBCUs after hoax threat calls.

00:28:31.000 ABC News.

00:28:33.000 U.S. college campuses experiencing epidemic of swatting calls following shooting death of Charlie Kirk.

00:28:38.000 What will civil war look like?

00:28:40.000 The mistake most people made is that they think it's in the movies.

00:28:43.000 The mistake most of these experts make is that they're comparing a union of sovereign states to a country that has since solidified.

00:28:52.000 You may be from Texas, but the Texan identity is long gone.

00:28:57.000 I'm sorry it is.

00:28:59.000 Many people may disagree, but the reality is this.

00:29:01.000 When you used to say you were from Texas, Texas was its own country for a while and it meant something.

00:29:06.000 Today, there are people from Texas that moved out a long time ago and they're like, yeah, I'm from whatever.

00:29:10.000 I don't consider myself an Illinois and spent most of my life in Illinois, Chicago.

00:29:16.000 I've lived in a bunch of places.

00:29:18.000 Los Angeles briefly was in Seattle and Denver and Hampton Roads, Virginia.

00:29:23.000 Now West Virginia was in Maryland, New Jersey, New York.

00:29:26.000 Where am I really from?

00:29:27.000 I'm from the United States.

00:29:28.000 I'm American.

00:29:29.000 What does the civil war look like?

00:29:32.000 It will not be.

00:29:34.000 Unions of states aligning with each other and then going and saying I hereby declare.

00:29:40.000 No, that's that's a different time.

00:29:44.000 Civil wars look like civil wars always have.

00:29:47.000 What does it mean for you?

00:29:50.000 You'll wake up one day and you will turn on the news and every few minutes will be a report about violence.

00:29:57.000 And that's exactly what's happening right now.

00:30:00.000 Again, this is more of a civil strife era, which is when bleeding Kansas pre civil war before you get full scale warfare.

00:30:10.000 But I woke up, I turned on Fox News and every other story was about something like this.

00:30:17.000 And now they tried blowing up a Fox truck.

00:30:19.000 That's what it looks like.

00:30:22.000 When things get heavy, when the United States, if it does come to a civil war, you will turn on the news.

00:30:29.000 And Bret Baier will say in Texas, I-95 suffered massive damage after an IED explosion.

00:30:35.000 There were no injuries, though the road is going to be closed until further notice for repairs obstructing trade.

00:30:42.000 For those of you in New York, you may not be able to get those strawberries in time for Christmas.

00:30:46.000 Moving on, we had a report out of California where the weather, that's what it's like.

00:30:52.000 There will be reports of shootings.

00:30:54.000 There will be report of IEDs.

00:30:55.000 There will be report of explosions.

00:30:56.000 And for most of you, it will be in some far off land.

00:31:00.000 There will be battlefronts.

00:31:03.000 I don't know who will be fighting in them.

00:31:06.000 But it's not going to be for the most part in the beginning.

00:31:08.000 Large trucks of California National Guard rolling into DC against US National Guard like in the movie Civil War.

00:31:14.000 That's silly.

00:31:15.000 That's not what it would look like.

00:31:17.000 Because anybody who looks at what's going on around the world right now,

00:31:21.000 or has ever had any kind of basic training in this stuff, I'll tell you.

00:31:25.000 In Syria, there was a market, semi-residential.

00:31:32.000 People walking down the street with grocery bags.

00:31:35.000 Two men with rifles looking through the window of a building started shooting people.

00:31:40.000 There were no tanks.

00:31:42.000 There were no soldiers pulling up in APCs.

00:31:46.000 The two guys came in undetected into government territory, into Assad-controlled territory,

00:31:53.000 and said they were going to start killing collaborators and government agents.

00:31:58.000 And that was it.

00:32:00.000 It means that one day you'll be walking down the street,

00:32:02.000 and you'll hear an explosion, and you'll duck, and you don't know where it is, and you'll run home.

00:32:05.000 It means one day you'll be walking home, you'll hear gunshots,

00:32:07.000 and you won't know where it comes from, and you'll run home.

00:32:10.000 It's a big country.

00:32:12.000 Civil War doesn't look like the movies.

00:32:15.000 People don't get it.

00:32:17.000 One day you'll be at home, and you'll hear some gunshots while you sleep.

00:32:21.000 You'll peek out the window, careful not to get too close, and you'll see men,

00:32:25.000 three or four with armor and guns, running through the streets.

00:32:28.000 And they'll be gone.

00:32:30.000 And you won't know why or what happened.

00:32:32.000 And you will just get your family together, hide in the basement, lock your doors.

00:32:37.000 Eventually, one day you'll wake up, and there'll be a man on TV who says the war is over.

00:32:42.000 We've won.

00:32:44.000 And then they'll say, it's time for everyone on other faction to surrender and give up and lay down your arms.

00:32:52.000 The fighting has stopped.

00:32:55.000 And then you'll get reconstruction.

00:32:57.000 Grab a coffee and discover Vegas-level excitement with BetMGM Casino.

00:33:02.000 Now introducing our hottest exclusive, Friends, the one with Multidrop.

00:33:07.000 Your favorite classic television show is being reimagined in your new favorite casino game,

00:33:11.000 featuring iconic images from the show.

00:33:14.000 Spin our new exclusive, because we are not on a break.

00:33:17.000 Play Friends, the one with Multidrop, exclusively at BetMGM Casino.

00:33:22.000 Want even more options?

00:33:23.000 Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games from blackjack to poker.

00:33:27.000 Or head over to the arcade for nostalgic casino thrills.

00:33:31.000 Download the BetMGM Ontario app today.

00:33:34.000 You don't want to miss out.

00:33:35.000 19 plus to wager.

00:33:37.000 Ontario only.

00:33:38.000 Please play responsibly.

00:33:39.000 If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you,

00:33:42.000 please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge.

00:33:51.000 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario.

00:33:55.000 If your side loses or wins, it doesn't even matter,

00:33:59.000 there will be a period of military dictatorship.

00:34:02.000 That's what history tells us.

00:34:05.000 Now, I don't know if that's what's going to happen.

00:34:08.000 But I can tell you when I go online and they are lying intentionally and they believe the lies,

00:34:17.000 all that really matters is they're saying,

00:34:20.000 this is the world that I live in and it is different from yours.

00:34:23.000 And that could be left or right.

00:34:25.000 So Stephen Marsh sees something I see.

00:34:27.000 There's a bifurcation with no healing.

00:34:30.000 Neither side wants.

00:34:32.000 I mean, I don't personally, you know, I would argue that Charlie Kirk was the off ramp who was saying debate,

00:34:41.000 but the right was winning.

00:34:43.000 The left wasn't going to tolerate it.

00:34:45.000 The truth.

00:34:46.000 If the right lost, they wouldn't tolerate it either.

00:34:49.000 So this felt like an inevitability, which is why I have often said I fear civil war.

00:34:54.000 I predicted January six imperfectly in September of twenty twenty.

00:34:59.000 I said in November, when Trump loses, they're going to they're going to go to D.C.

00:35:02.000 and storm the White House. 0.74

00:35:03.000 November came and went.

00:35:04.000 Trump lost. 0.99

00:35:05.000 And people called me a lunatic. 0.92

00:35:07.000 Then January six happened.

00:35:09.000 And the left said Tim Pool had foreknowledge.

00:35:11.000 This proves it.

00:35:12.000 Maybe I was just right.

00:35:15.000 And I don't want to be.

00:35:16.000 And I've said every step of the way.

00:35:18.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:35:19.000 And maybe the death of Charlie Kirk will wake people up.

00:35:21.000 They'll say enough.

00:35:24.000 I wish.

00:35:25.000 And I say it every time because I don't know that I know everything.

00:35:28.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:35:29.000 I'm just reading the news and saying what comes next.

00:35:32.000 One plus one equals two.

00:35:34.000 When mainstream liberals. 0.97

00:35:37.000 Cheer for an assassination. 0.85

00:35:40.000 The logic is simple.

00:35:42.000 More people will be emboldened.

00:35:44.000 Luigi Mangione was made into a saint.

00:35:46.000 I'm literally they made a candle with him as a saint and so and are selling it.

00:35:50.000 Why was Charlie Kirk killed?

00:35:52.000 A variety of reasons.

00:35:53.000 But I would guarantee you this.

00:35:55.000 The shooter saw the lionization of a murderer and said.

00:35:59.000 Worst case scenario is.

00:36:01.000 At least one side looks at you like a hero.

00:36:03.000 And they do.

00:36:04.000 They cheer for it.

00:36:05.000 I guess we'll see.

00:36:09.000 But I hope not.

00:36:13.000 All I can tell you is I hope you're prepared.

00:36:16.000 Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

00:36:18.000 I live in the middle of nowhere on a large property with security perimeter and armed guards.

00:36:23.000 Because people.

00:36:25.000 Literally want to kill me. 0.99

00:36:29.000 For what I say. 0.97

00:36:31.000 Because what I say is dangerous.

00:36:33.000 Charlie Kirk was more dangerous.

00:36:35.000 He's the reason Trump won.

00:36:38.000 All these young men who shifted rightward.

00:36:40.000 Rightward at colleges and high schools.

00:36:42.000 Charlie knew what he was doing and he was right.

00:36:44.000 And he was right.

00:36:46.000 The left wouldn't let that stand.

00:36:49.000 I agree if the left was winning the right wouldn't let it stand either.

00:36:54.000 Where do you think we go next?

00:36:56.000 I think you know.

00:36:57.000 That's why you clicked this video.

00:37:01.000 Stay tuned for more.

00:37:02.000 Smash the like button.

00:37:03.000 Share the show with everyone you know.

00:37:04.000 Stay tuned.

00:37:05.000 More to come.

00:37:06.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:37:07.000 We'll see you all in the next segment.

00:37:14.000 True.

00:37:15.000 Action the red one.

00:37:16.000 Why don't you hope for him?

00:37:17.000 Genie.

00:37:18.000 Make cool things that showed him.

00:37:20.000 Then let me go.

00:37:22.000 Change the red one.

00:37:24.000 It will rarely were the first one.

00:37:25.000 Look for you.

00:37:26.000 Let me go ahead and trade my own mind.

00:37:28.000 No way out I'm moving you. 0.99

00:37:29.000 I was going lead right away.

00:37:31.000 Let's move through the window.

00:37:32.000 I'll show you all in the next section of my chest.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - September 15, 2025

Charlie Kirk Assassination Sparks Civil War Fears

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript