The Culture War - Tim Pool - Conservatives Say NO MERCY To Liberals over Charlie Kirk Assassination ft. Auron MacIntyre

00:00:00.000 The leftists cannot admit who they are. They are the party of terrorism. 0.99

00:00:03.520 They are the party of political violence. While they cry and scream about the nature of our

00:00:07.720 sacred democracy, what they really mean is that anyone who threatens their homogeneous rule of

00:00:14.140 our country is ultimately a threat to their life, and they will kill you if you disagree or work 0.99

00:00:19.980 against them. I want to start before we do this interview with Oren with this tweet from Winston

00:00:24.300 Marshall. Many of you have already seen it. I showed it in a previous segment.

00:00:27.240 More Americans see left-wing beliefs behind Charlie Kirk's shooting than right-wing beliefs.

00:00:33.200 Well, it's true. The shooter, according to the evidence, was motivated by leftist ideology.

00:00:38.200 But Democrats, for some reason, three to one, think the shooter was right-wing. Well, that's wrong.

00:00:45.820 Oren McIntyre says, you are grieving the loss of Charlie Kirk. Your neighbor is not. In fact,

00:00:51.320 they think people like you killed him. This is a difference so fundamental that no argument or

00:00:56.200 evidence will change it, and you need to understand the implications of that fact.

00:01:01.080 Now, I've talked about this quite a bit, the bifurcation of American culture. In a conversation

00:01:06.160 I had with Stephen Marsh, he wrote a book called The Next Civil War, and he's a liberal guy.

00:01:10.040 He said, within the United States, there exist two countries, a multicultural democracy and a

00:01:15.360 constitutional republic. Now, he favors the multicultural democracy, the liberal guy.

00:01:20.640 But he's correct. And I said, you're right. I'm a constitutional republic guy. These two nations

00:01:27.420 cannot coexist in the same space. So what happens? What is true to liberals will only ever be true

00:01:34.220 to liberals, and what is true to conservatives will only ever be true to conservatives. Now,

00:01:37.020 me personally, I'm not even a conservative. I largely just want to know what's true.

00:01:43.260 I do like the Constitution, the Founding Fathers' vision. It's created great things.

00:01:48.300 And I believe that there is a truth. You cannot just subvert the will of the people by force.

00:01:53.780 That defies the country that we're supposed to be defending. But the multicultural democracy 1.00

00:01:59.100 left liberals, they do just that. I'm going to pull in Oren McIntyre who can break this down for us.

00:02:04.900 I believe we have him ready to go. Let's boot it up. And it's loading up, fixing the audio. Weird

00:02:15.200 audio loop. And I believe we have Oren being pulled in right now. Oren, can you hear me?

00:02:21.800 Hey, how's it going?

00:02:22.780 It is going very well. How about you, sir?

00:02:25.360 Doing well, doing well.

00:02:26.540 Now, over the past couple of weeks, obviously, everyone's aware of what happened. Even people

00:02:31.660 who don't follow politics are talking about it when, you know, it got to the bar or whatever,

00:02:36.000 wherever it is we may be. Now, here's what's crazy. You have this tweet that I just cited.

00:02:42.100 There's data showing that liberals believe the shooter of Charlie Kirk was a Republican

00:02:47.600 or was a conservative. And the reason for this is largely, in my view,

00:02:52.160 you've got prominent liberals intentionally lying. You have, of course, Jimmy Kimmel getting canceled

00:02:57.340 after his comments was they were trying to claim he was anything but one of their own,

00:03:00.920 the MAGA people. There's no way he didn't know that, in my view. He has a team of researchers

00:03:05.620 and writers. They had to have seen the press conferences going over the information. John

00:03:11.120 Oliver has doubled down saying, well, it was an honest, you know, that's what everyone thought.

00:03:14.920 Stephen Colbert doubled down, said he did nothing wrong. So liberals genuinely believe this and

00:03:19.620 nothing you say will change it. And now what have we seen? At Charlie Kirk's memorial, liberals went

00:03:25.220 online to say it was a Nazi rally. They went on to say that they were lying about mourning

00:03:30.740 Charlie Kirk and they were calling for action. I've received death threats. Others have.

00:03:36.720 You made this statement in response to this poll saying that you're, you know, you right now are

00:03:42.620 mourning Charlie Kirk, but they are not. And it's a difference so fundamental. You need to understand

00:03:47.320 what that means. So I'm curious, what does this mean?

00:03:51.160 Well, a lot of people knew what they were doing from the very beginning. The media knows that if

00:03:57.080 they go out there and set the narrative, they set the pace, they put out the idea that this shooter

00:04:01.460 is right wing before any of the facts come in, that they have set an anchor that will be almost

00:04:06.600 impossible to remove from the minds of their audiences. Because people at MSNBC and all these

00:04:13.340 other networks, they're not going to go back and correct all of this. They're not going to lay out

00:04:17.160 the differences and nuances and updates for their audiences. Their audiences heard that this guy

00:04:21.760 might be a griper. He might be a right winger, disgruntled white supremacist, whatever. And that 0.97

00:04:25.920 is what the vast majority of them will believe. I remember sitting at a bar with a friend, someone

00:04:30.800 who's a pretty sane person, even though they're a little left of center just a few months ago. And

00:04:35.400 they looked at me with a straight face with a couple of the friends, friends nodding in agreement

00:04:39.520 when they said that the Trump assassination was a coordinated CIA op to make sure that he got

00:04:44.940 elected. This is something that real people still believe to this day. So what Jimmy Kimmel is doing,

00:04:50.820 and this is why I have no, no guilt about getting him fired, helping to get him fired,

00:04:55.160 is that ultimately what he was doing was setting this narrative. He was making sure to cover for

00:05:00.280 left wing terrorists because the leftists cannot admit who they are. They are the party of terrorism. 0.97

00:05:04.740 They are the party of political violence. While they cry and scream about the nature of our sacred

00:05:09.600 democracy, what they really mean is that anyone who threatens their homogeneous rule of our country

00:05:16.620 is ultimately a threat to their life. And they will kill you if you disagree or work against them.

00:05:22.240 We all know that's what a number of leftists unfortunately now believe, and we can see it

00:05:26.580 on our timelines every day. And so in order to manufacture this narrative, to stay out in front of

00:05:31.800 all the facts, guys like Jimmy Kimmel ran out there and lied to the American people. And that is going to

00:05:36.680 stay, that is going to stay entrenched in many progressive circles for the rest of their lives.

00:05:41.420 I, uh, years ago was on the free speech for, for all, no matter what wagon. And what did we see?

00:05:50.780 A conservative or right-leaning person or just anti-establishment because they were even,

00:05:54.520 you know, social libs who are not lying, but they were getting censored as well, but not as much.

00:06:00.480 They'd get censored and the left would cheer. These liberal personalities would cheer.

00:06:04.300 And we'd say, but free speech. And they would then make memes of freeze peach and insult you and

00:06:10.680 mock you and laugh about it. And then when a leftist or liberal got censored for some rare reason,

00:06:15.860 they would say, this is unfair. What about my free speech? And then people like me would come out and

00:06:21.620 say, I'm going to defend them. They should be allowed to speak because that's freedom.

00:06:25.520 I changed my mind, not on free speech, not on the right of everyone to have it,

00:06:30.940 but on defending those who are trying to destroy my way of life. That is to say,

00:06:36.080 if there's a communist, I met, I met a guy in Berkeley, overt communist wearing a, you know,

00:06:40.880 wearing a Soviet flag mask. And he said, and I asked him about the violence from the left. He said,

00:06:46.460 this is wrong, man. And then I was like, really? And then he goes, yeah, no one should be allowed to

00:06:50.520 do that. They should be arrested. And I was like, I agree with you. I shook his hand.

00:06:53.060 I will defend that man's right to hand out his books and his pamphlets and do whatever,

00:06:57.760 because he stood alongside me saying, we're going to have a battle of ideas. May the best

00:07:01.160 ideas win. And I think I will. But now what I'm seeing is they killed Charlie Kirk for his speech.

00:07:08.200 They are actively trying to, they use email campaigns. They use smear tactics and lies to

00:07:16.320 scare people into suppressing our rights and then beg us to let them to do it. I say no to that.

00:07:23.060 And I think you agree, but there are a lot of people now claiming that this is illiberal or

00:07:28.540 it's leftism itself. I'm curious what you think. Yeah, it's hard to hold up people like Jimmy Kimmel

00:07:34.380 as free speech champions, because of course he was making jokes about why it was justified to fire

00:07:39.420 Roseanne Barr when Michelle Obama was making calls to the same network he works for now. He has supported

00:07:45.000 people's cancellation. He has cheered for their cancellation. And I think it's really critical

00:07:49.140 for people to understand this. You know, for a while, me and some guys like me have been trying

00:07:54.080 to explain to conservatives, the wider right, even just non-woke leftists. Would you guys consider

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00:10:00.180 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, that we are heading towards a different type of

00:10:05.400 politics. And that's really hard for people to understand because we lived our entire lives

00:10:09.720 under this shared idea of what it meant to be an American, to speak your mind, to have an exchange

00:10:15.520 of ideas. We like that type of politics, but by and far, that is not how politics has been practiced

00:10:21.500 through most of history. Through most of history, politics has been an existential act. It has been

00:10:26.720 about taking your own life into your hands when you deal in the arena of public discourse. Now,

00:10:32.660 I don't want to live in that way. I think the world that Charlie Kirk was trying to perpetuate

00:10:38.760 is the better version of that. But we have to understand that that type of debate only occurs

00:10:44.020 when you share a certain bedrock, tradition, faith, principle, belief, understanding of the world.

00:10:51.600 And we have watched as our understanding is rending itself further and further away from each other

00:10:56.480 to the point now where it's very clear the left has none of those principles at all. And they only

00:11:01.520 pull those principles out when they think they can beat you to death with them. So we're kind of on

00:11:05.980 the other side of the Rubicon here. They shot the free speech guy in the throat. Now, I would like a

00:11:11.420 world where guys like Charlie Kirk can speak freely and convince people with the power and authority

00:11:16.300 of their logical arguments. But they can't do that when people are being shot in the throat.

00:11:20.680 So if we want to get back to a place where that type of politics works, we have to change

00:11:24.280 what we're doing now. They're lying with their fake stats saying the right is responsible for more

00:11:30.000 extremist acts. It's just fundamentally not true. The stats they use include white supremacist prison

00:11:36.300 gangs getting into fights in prison or white supremacist beating his wife. When you actually look at

00:11:41.860 violent crime in general, if we want to include all of it, Democrats way outrank Republicans.

00:11:45.840 When you look at the cities, duh, these people largely vote Democrat. They're violent.

00:11:50.380 But at least we can say this. In the past couple of years, it's been overwhelmingly far left,

00:11:55.660 especially with the George Floyd riots. So I see these centrist types coming out and saying,

00:12:01.260 I love this one where they say, you better be careful about what you do now because

00:12:05.100 Democrats will take power again. And when they do, they'll come for you. And my response is,

00:12:11.080 it's going to get worse? You know, I was just saying some moment ago, what are they going to do?

00:12:14.980 They're going to exhume our corpses and pull our souls back from the other side? They're already 0.97

00:12:19.140 killing people. They killed the free speech guy. So what I'm seeing now is, and I should agree with 0.91

00:12:24.440 your point you made is, the debates, the free speech, all that stuff, it works within a community.

00:12:33.020 I disagreed with Charlie on a handful of things. TikTok, for instance. And I'd go on my show and I'd say

00:12:39.420 that. He'd go on his show, express his view, express our views. And Charlie still invited me

00:12:43.660 to be part of his events because despite our political disagreements, we are one community.

00:12:51.180 But what's happened now with these people on the left, they arrested Donald Trump multiple times,

00:12:56.460 accused him of fraud, falsely arrested his lawyers, unconstitutionally imprisoned his supporters,

00:13:01.300 arrested people for memes. And then during the riots, when 30 plus people died, raised money for the

00:13:06.720 rioters who helped make this happen and burned down police stations, why won't conservatives

00:13:12.240 recognize? Let me put it like this. I was saying this yesterday. Nobody lamented the loss of due

00:13:21.100 process for Soleimani. There were anti-war people who said, maybe we shouldn't have done this because

00:13:25.820 it could create war. But no one, not a single person came out and said, why didn't Soleimani get

00:13:30.760 a fair trial in the United States? Well, because he was an enemy combatant in Iraq. He was an Iranian

00:13:35.360 in Iraq and we dropped a bomb on him. Nobody lamented his rights. The question now, the issue,

00:13:41.960 I suppose, and I think a lot of these people, these libertarian and centrist and some conservatives

00:13:45.460 don't recognize, is that these leftists have no intention of debating you. They're actively

00:13:52.480 supporting the murder of the guy who wanted to debate. And they're not recognizing that there is a

00:13:59.080 line in which we stop defending people trying to kill us.

00:14:03.880 Yeah, ultimately, I think there are a number of people who for many, many decades were told that

00:14:10.080 wanting power, that exercising power was the most evil thing in the world. Conservatism was all about

00:14:15.540 small government. It was about hands off. Don't do anything. Never take any action. When we're in power,

00:14:20.960 we just hold back the tide. And when the left's in power, they do whatever they want. They run roughshod

00:14:25.300 over us. Now, not only has that failed as a political strategy, it's obviously just the

00:14:29.700 opposite of what our founding fathers actually said in the Federalist papers. If you look at

00:14:34.500 Federalist 51, it says ambition checks ambition. If you have one group who is doing something bad,

00:14:40.420 you need another group who will take a action in reaction to what they are doing in order to stop

00:14:45.980 them. Tit or tat. The only thing that ever works in game theory, you can know this academically,

00:14:50.400 or you can know this from having been on a playground when you were seven years old. But we all know how

00:14:54.680 this works. If one side goes completely unanswered with violent actions, with ridiculous actions, 0.84

00:14:59.980 calling for violence, pushing this stuff, then they will continue to do that. In fact,

00:15:03.560 they will escalate it. And we're seeing that now. Because the real worry, the real worry is not that

00:15:08.700 there would be some terrible reaction on the right to Charlie Kirk's death. That would have been bad.

00:15:13.560 I'm glad there was no retaliatory violence. But the real worry, the scariest worry is that the state

00:15:18.180 will not take sufficient action to punish those in charge. They will not use the legitimate power of the

00:15:23.180 state to punish those who have perpetuated this violence are enacting this violence are planning

00:15:27.720 this violence. And if that is not done, the left will only get crazier. And we can see this right

00:15:32.580 now, you can see major personalities, personalities, like the Cransteins on Twitter, on the left talking

00:15:38.180 about how they are Antifa, how they support Antifa's work, they're directly declaring their support for a

00:15:43.740 violent murderous terrorist network. And they expect to pay no cost. And I'll be real honest here,

00:15:49.100 I want unity on the right. But if guys like James Lindsay and Seth Dillon are going to run out and

00:15:54.380 protect terrorist sympathizers online and say, no, the right are the bad guys, the people trying to

00:16:00.320 bring justice are the bad guys, the people warning about the murderers are the bad guys. And actually,

00:16:04.640 we support and the people who are cheering on Antifa. Sorry, I don't have time for that. I don't

00:16:09.960 want to fight with the right now right now. I don't want to feud with that. I don't want to use

00:16:12.680 Charlie Kirk's death to settle any scores. I want the left to stop murdering people. And there is a set

00:16:18.580 of actions that have to be taken to make that happen. And if you are telling me that we're not

00:16:22.180 allowed to do that, then sorry, I have no time for you. That's why I refer to James Lindsay and

00:16:26.800 Seth Dillon as the woke right. Because they are, they, you know, James purporting to be more,

00:16:33.940 I don't think he calls himself a conservative, but independent. And Seth Dillon purported conservative,

00:16:38.880 but they serve the interests of the leftist orthodoxy. They are the right side of the woke coin.

00:16:43.800 Now, of course, they use the term to describe this amorphous, nebulous, vague group of people

00:16:49.600 on the right of varying ideologies, which makes literally no sense. My view is this. I completely

00:16:54.680 agree with you. They are coming out now, and I'll put it this way. I asked a legitimate,

00:17:00.780 philosophical, moral question of Seth Dillon. And for those that aren't familiar, he's the guy from

00:17:04.980 the Babylon Bee. What would the left have to do or collectively support for you to not defend them?

00:17:12.520 Serious question. And the response I got was, you misspelled your, and when did you stop beating your

00:17:18.660 wife? Because they couldn't answer the question. So they pretended that I was making a rhetorical

00:17:25.340 statement in defense of cancellations, or it was a legitimate question. The reality is they can't

00:17:31.400 actually answer it. Well, I ask this question legitimately because we ask it of all rights.

00:17:36.640 Individuals have freedom of movement. At what point do we tell a person not anymore? We know

00:17:43.060 the line. It is, if you walk into a grocery store and grab an apple and walk out, guess what?

00:17:49.140 We have decided as a society, we will take your right of freedom of movement from you.

00:17:53.400 If you smash a window and enter someone's building, you did not have the freedom to do that. We will

00:17:58.520 lock you in a box. Now you can't go anywhere until we say otherwise.

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00:19:31.580 So when it comes to these simple things, we even determine, and this is what I find fascinating in

00:19:36.980 the argument, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Actually, our society largely

00:19:43.340 determines that the line at which an individual without force of government can decide to deprive

00:19:48.800 you of life, it's actually much less than the threat of death. Simply fear of death or injury,

00:19:56.320 great bodily harm, is enough in our society for an individual to determine they can take your life

00:20:01.520 from you legally and lawfully. Now, I don't want anyone to die. Of course not. I want people to be

00:20:06.800 able to speak freely, but that's where the line is socially. When it comes to these people who are

00:20:11.520 lying intentionally, to inflame tensions, escalate violence, and encourage others, or to satisfy their

00:20:18.720 bloodlust, I'm not going to defend them. I'm certainly not saying that I think this stupid 0.99

00:20:24.100 teacher who, you know, lied about Charlie Kirk, I'm not saying celebrated death, I'm saying just 1.00

00:20:29.080 lied about his worldview, should have been fired. Some people have gotten her fired. They ask me to go

00:20:33.660 and defend her and try and get her job back. No way! She may not be, in my view, threatening my life. 0.98

00:20:40.840 But the point is this. I'm not going to defend her. When I ask this of these woke right guys,

00:20:48.580 James Lindsay and Seth Dillon, they don't have an answer as to what line needs to be crossed.

00:20:53.000 So I'll make it simple. When the collective actions of the left are to support the murder

00:20:58.060 of a good man who wanted debate and free speech, at bare minimum I say, I am not going to defend them.

00:21:04.500 They argue it's defending free speech, not the person. That's semantic nonsense. They're asking me to go for

00:21:12.020 bat to espouse a view that would get this person their job back. I'm not going to do it. I assume you agree.

00:21:18.360 I'm kind of ranting on this one, though.

00:21:19.480 No, I'm with you 100%. And this is why ultimately I felt like Jimmy Kimmel needed to be removed from television

00:21:26.160 in a way that some teacher who, you know, said they don't like Charlie Kirk does not.

00:21:30.580 I don't think that person should really be teaching my kids either.

00:21:33.320 But definitely Jimmy Kimmel going out there and lying to millions of people to cover for terrorists

00:21:38.200 is absolutely something that has to stop.

00:21:40.620 And, you know, in his book, Thoughts on Machiavelli,

00:21:43.560 the philosopher Leo Strauss said that Machiavelli, who actually supported Republican government,

00:21:48.280 most people think he was a monarchist, but actually he was pro-Republican government.

00:21:52.560 And he said that Republican governments require, of course, virtuous people who share a culture,

00:21:57.600 share an identity, share an understanding.

00:21:59.620 And he said in the life of every republic, you'll come to a moment where the rules of that republic

00:22:04.040 have degraded so much. The quality of people in the republic have degraded so much

00:22:08.100 that you have to do something outside of the rules to bring things back into alignment,

00:22:13.100 to return yourself to a place where you can live by those rules again.

00:22:17.700 Now, I don't even know if we're there entirely, but it's very clear that half of the country

00:22:21.900 has fallen out of this understanding of the rules.

00:22:25.600 Their character has degraded.

00:22:27.160 They are no longer capable of the type of self-government and self-control

00:22:31.500 that is required for a republic to flourish.

00:22:35.180 And so in order to bring those people back into line, to set a corrective state where we can return

00:22:39.560 to a place where guys like Charlie Kirk can sit peacefully without fear on a college campus

00:22:45.760 and speak the truth, we're going to need to take action to correct that 50% of the population.

00:22:51.440 This is not some crazy idea.

00:22:53.140 This is not some out of the...

00:22:54.360 This is a very reasonable understanding that has been brought about throughout

00:22:58.380 philosophical understanding, through political theory, throughout the entirety of the discipline.

00:23:03.200 So this is not a crazy thing to say.

00:23:05.500 This is just the basics that are required, that are understood by everyone,

00:23:09.380 from Machiavelli to our founders to Leo Strauss.

00:23:12.900 This is a basic thing that is understood by everyone who has actually looked at how politics works.

00:23:17.220 You cannot allow half the population to not believe in the tenets of republican government,

00:23:22.560 but expect them to then reap the benefits of republican government.

00:23:26.040 It's one or the other.

00:23:26.940 There's a funny meme where it's like a comic, and there's a man and a woman living in a field,

00:23:33.060 and the man constructs a fence around the property and says,

00:23:36.400 I have constructed this fence, wife, to keep you safe from wolves.

00:23:40.000 And then the next panel is a wolf comes up and says,

00:23:43.480 that man just created this fence to keep you imprisoned.

00:23:46.620 Tear down this fence and be free.

00:23:48.320 So she does, and then the wolf eats her.

00:23:50.200 And the idea, it's largely shared by like red pill guys to make this point about feminism and stuff.

00:23:58.000 But I think the idea is actually extending beyond that.

00:24:00.740 These woke right guys who are defending what the left does because principles

00:24:06.480 are exactly the person that doesn't understand that they are in a fenced, protected society.

00:24:11.600 And it is unfortunate that this great nation has created such a great system,

00:24:20.340 better than every other system,

00:24:21.980 that it's created people who don't realize what life is like outside of it.

00:24:25.480 And so when the left says, collectively, our intention is to destroy your way of life,

00:24:31.140 they think, but we have always just debated.

00:24:33.920 And that has always worked for us,

00:24:36.040 despite the fact that 250 years ago,

00:24:37.820 the Founding Fathers actually fought a bloody war to be able to actually have this way of life.

00:24:43.420 And there were loyalists who sided with the crown to stop that from happening.

00:24:47.500 And even, some people don't know, a declaration of dependence.

00:24:50.740 They didn't literally call it that, but it is colloquially called that.

00:24:54.460 So the way I look at it is like this.

00:24:57.760 There are people that say an authoritarian right-wing government is a nightmare dystopia.

00:25:03.540 And the question I ask is, why do you believe that and what does it look like?

00:25:07.060 Well, it looks like V for Vendetta, right?

00:25:08.920 Where the chancellor was making up lies to control the public and experimenting on people.

00:25:12.920 And then I say, wow, you're right.

00:25:14.820 That's really bad.

00:25:15.580 We don't want that.

00:25:16.660 And then, simultaneously, we say, the communists were substantially worse in real life.

00:25:22.200 125 million deaths, all that stuff.

00:25:23.720 We don't want that either.

00:25:24.320 We don't want authoritarianism.

00:25:25.960 So then, recognizing those fears,

00:25:29.140 Trump says, I will deploy the National Guard to stop crime.

00:25:31.780 And we are told not to allow that.

00:25:35.080 Because that would be like the right-wing government of V for Vendetta.

00:25:38.920 But I was talking to my friends about it.

00:25:41.080 And they said, what's it going to look like if Trump does this?

00:25:44.420 And I said, you won't notice a thing.

00:25:47.400 You'll notice later.

00:25:48.340 You'll be driving down the street in D.C.

00:25:50.680 There will be no homeless people.

00:25:51.940 There'll be less crime.

00:25:52.760 It'll be cleaner.

00:25:53.880 And then, periodically, you might have a guy walk up to you and say,

00:25:57.360 excuse me, sir, where are you headed?

00:25:59.540 And you'll be like, I'm just going to Starbucks.

00:26:00.920 And it'll be like, yeah, yeah, what are you doing there?

00:26:03.580 And you'll be like, I'm just going to grab a coffee and go to work.

00:26:05.360 And he'll say, all right, have a good day, sir.

00:26:06.580 And that's it.

00:26:07.680 They seem to think that every circumstance in which there is law enforcement

00:26:11.620 will be a dictatorship.

00:26:13.920 But that's just this, it's a fear that I understand.

00:26:17.480 But just because there are police and law enforcement

00:26:19.680 doesn't mean they're going to be beating you and locking you in cages.

00:26:23.280 It is, in fact, the prerequisite for an ordered society.

00:26:26.920 But I think a lot of people need to understand where we're at historically.

00:26:31.420 So in the lead up to the Spanish Civil War,

00:26:33.980 there was a lot of terrorism from the left.

00:26:36.820 They murdered public officials, private individuals.

00:26:39.700 They bombed people on a routine basis.

00:26:42.540 Anarchists were murdering government officials who were right wing in the street.

00:26:46.680 And the Republican government at the time would not take action

00:26:50.360 because they were sympathetic to the left.

00:26:53.460 So they kept making excuses as to why they couldn't do anything.

00:26:56.740 Oh, well, we have to abide by blah, blah, blah.

00:26:59.380 But what people saw over and over again were people being murdered in the street consistently

00:27:03.980 by the left.

00:27:05.120 And eventually the people said, you know what?

00:27:07.280 Give me Franco. 0.85

00:27:08.520 Because if the government cannot stop this, if they will not stop it,

00:27:12.240 if they refuse to use their righteous position as the civil magistrate under the authority of God

00:27:18.880 to stop those that are murdering people who are just trying to participate in the government,

00:27:23.860 then I need someone who will.

00:27:25.840 And so for those who truly are worried about right wing authoritarianism,

00:27:29.400 if you're really worried about...

00:27:31.580 Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

00:27:36.120 I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day.

00:27:41.060 Obviously, the goal is a championship.

00:27:42.900 That's...

00:27:43.560 There's no doubt in that.

00:27:44.680 And that's the goal.

00:27:45.640 We want to win a championship.

00:27:47.140 I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast,

00:27:49.540 in case you missed it with Christina Williams.

00:27:51.500 The WNBA playoffs are here,

00:27:53.700 and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players

00:27:58.060 to the behind-the-scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.

00:28:01.940 It's really, really hard to be the champions,

00:28:03.900 but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge that we have.

00:28:07.880 For all the biggest stories in women's basketball,

00:28:10.140 plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

00:28:13.720 So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted.

00:28:16.900 But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way,

00:28:19.660 and we're hoping to, you know, make a run.

00:28:21.880 So listen to In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams,

00:28:24.840 an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment

00:28:28.840 on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:28:33.300 Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

00:28:37.840 I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day.

00:28:42.780 Obviously, the goal is a championship.

00:28:44.160 That's, there's no doubt in that, and that's the goal.

00:28:47.380 We want to win a championship.

00:28:48.900 I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams.

00:28:53.680 The WNBA playoffs are here, and I've got the inside scoop on everything

00:28:57.520 from key matchups and standout players to the behind-the-scenes moments

00:29:01.320 you won't find anywhere else.

00:29:03.680 It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels

00:29:07.220 and embrace the new challenge that we have.

00:29:09.600 For all the biggest stories in women's basketball,

00:29:11.840 plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

00:29:15.460 So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted,

00:29:18.480 but we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way,

00:29:21.500 and we're hoping to, you know, make a run.

00:29:23.620 So listen to In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams,

00:29:26.560 an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports

00:29:29.900 and Entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

00:29:32.980 or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:29:34.880 The big scary man, you know, the mid-century German coming for you. 1.00

00:29:39.040 Then let me tell you something.

00:29:40.620 The best thing you can do now is actually use the legal force

00:29:44.920 that you have to put a severe penalty on those who are planning violence,

00:29:49.820 who are promoting violence, who are deploying it.

00:29:51.400 Because if you do not, the next guy will be Franco.

00:29:55.480 It will be someone who is pushing for this.

00:29:57.600 My understanding is the executive summary of the Spanish Civil War is

00:30:02.860 the right, actually won power, did nothing to stop the left running rampant,

00:30:10.500 killing people, and allowed the leftists to regain power in government.

00:30:16.900 And it was then Franco, witnessing everything happening,

00:30:20.620 started speaking with other people, finding loyalists, and said,

00:30:22.940 we have to stop this now or else.

00:30:25.440 And I believe he was in Morocco, and then came up to Spain.

00:30:29.860 The people who agreed with him decided to fight alongside him,

00:30:31.840 and then they decided to take over.

00:30:33.640 The fascinating thing is, they say it was, you know,

00:30:36.480 a right-wing authoritarian takeover after Spain and all that stuff.

00:30:39.940 Francoism ended when Franco died.

00:30:41.880 And the government was just like, okay, we'll be a democratic system again.

00:30:45.900 Whereas with, you know, Mao, the country is still under this authoritarian control, North Korea.

00:30:54.320 The Soviet Union, it broke apart, but look how those countries are doing.

00:30:59.140 And Putin's been in power for decades and just bounces back and forth with this authoritarian system.

00:31:03.980 It's fascinating how these right-wing systems eventually just fizzle out and break,

00:31:08.580 even like South America.

00:31:09.500 Yeah, again, I think it's one of those moments where you have a corrective to a left-wing that is just completely out of control.

00:31:18.320 It is, again, that restorative moment.

00:31:20.240 Now, I hope we don't get to that point.

00:31:22.420 I hope that Donald Trump uses the authority of the government to crack down sufficiently,

00:31:27.800 not just on the Antifa members, though absolutely they should all be in jail.

00:31:31.780 I need thousands of arrests.

00:31:32.940 I want agents kicking down doors, swinging through windows, ripping leftists who are planning violence out of their beds in the middle of the night and putting them in leg irons.

00:31:41.120 I want it public.

00:31:42.080 I want it to be clear.

00:31:43.560 There is a cost now. 0.94

00:31:45.500 You can't just blow up cities, burn cities down, shoot at presidents, murder firefighters, murder conservative activists. 0.97

00:31:53.080 That is over. 0.89

00:31:54.200 Because if we do not send that message, the people will find someone who will.

00:31:57.720 And so I am hoping very much that under the color of law, with nothing but legitimate government action, Donald Trump does what needs to be done here.

00:32:06.540 Because that is actually what stops leftist violence, that wringing your hands about abstract principles that don't even apply in this scenario.

00:32:14.520 We have principles.

00:32:15.780 We have plenty of principles.

00:32:17.060 And those principles are defending the people of the United States and their rights to speak.

00:32:21.240 Charlie Kirk's right to free speech was ended by a bullet.

00:32:24.200 If we do not stop leftists from ending the rights of people with a bullet, things are going to only get worse.

00:32:32.060 You know, Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, waged, sent troops into states that had defied the union.

00:32:42.100 And he had the Maryland, I think a third of the Maryland legislature was arrested for being sympathetic to the South because Maryland was a slave state.

00:32:49.320 And he's the most popular president in history.

00:32:51.580 And they cheer for him and celebrate him.

00:32:53.180 So when you ask these Democrats about Abraham Lincoln, they'll tell you, of course, he was the best.

00:32:58.420 Now, maybe their reasons may be different.

00:32:59.420 Yet it's slavery, they'll say.

00:33:00.800 Well, if they if they say that his actions were justified, what he did was good.

00:33:04.480 OK, then there comes a time when a leader says the rules be damned.

00:33:09.940 I'm doing what must be done to preserve the union.

00:33:12.200 If they say that's fascism, you can realize they're talking about both sides of their mouths because they praise Abraham Lincoln in one in one sentence and then deny him in the other.

00:33:20.760 I think there's a reality.

00:33:23.520 That's what I was saying about when Soleimani died.

00:33:25.440 We we we as a government are concerned about infringements against those in our community because the government is supposed to be of for and by us.

00:33:34.860 The problem is the left has made clear they are not in the same community as us.

00:33:40.340 And so what then if people are actively killing you, opening your borders to 20 million noncitizens, allowing noncitizens citizens to vote? 0.96

00:33:50.940 They are telling you outright they are not of the same body politic.

00:33:55.620 If you then let them do it, you are just laying down and surrendering.

00:34:00.180 I think that's the reality for a lot of these fake conservative woke right types is that their attitude is let the left win by brute force because then I can be left alone. 0.94

00:34:10.880 Sam Francis called this the beautiful losers, right?

00:34:15.880 As long as I can say that I am morally clean, I am morally just, then it doesn't matter if I lose.

00:34:21.440 It doesn't matter if I fail, except it turns out it does matter quite a bit.

00:34:25.700 Unfortunately, the magical system a lot of people pretend the founders believed in.

00:34:30.740 They didn't actually believe in.

00:34:31.940 They tell you what limits the power of the government and overreach by people, and that is consequences.

00:34:38.420 But a lot of people have said, oh, no, if we just tell them, if we just lecture them with, you know, principles, they'll understand.

00:34:44.920 They'll come to recognize that ultimately we are in the right.

00:34:47.900 But, of course, you're correct.

00:34:48.900 The left has championed guys like FDR who, you know, interred the Japanese and the Germans who ended up, you know, taking over and seizing large amounts of government authority who threatened to pack the court if they didn't do what he wanted to do.

00:35:01.120 And he's a titan of the left.

00:35:02.620 These people are not just super excited about demonstrations of restrained government.

00:35:07.500 When's the last time you saw a leftist praising Calvin Coolidge?

00:35:11.200 One last thing real quick.

00:35:12.440 I've got about a minute left.

00:35:13.220 My favorite thing recently is we've had this debate about whether the United States was a Christian nation.

00:35:18.520 And I think you probably know this.

00:35:19.740 Most people don't.

00:35:21.140 The liberals argue they didn't put it in the Constitution because it wasn't a Christian nation.

00:35:25.360 When in reality, the reason why the federal constitution did not mandate Christianity was because the states had different—Maryland was Catholic, most states were Protestant, and the state constitutions of every colony except Virginia required a professed belief in a Christian God.

00:35:43.920 So the federal constitution said, look, we get it.

00:35:47.280 There's different denominations here.

00:35:49.360 Maryland is largely Catholic, so we don't want to tell you what to believe.

00:35:52.760 The states have done it already.

00:35:54.460 And now they argue that this was a secular nation from the get-go, ignoring what the Founding Fathers actually said.

00:35:59.600 Only Jefferson in Virginia was like, no, no, no, we're not going to do that here.

00:36:03.500 But we are out of time.

00:36:04.880 So any last thoughts or anything you want to shout out?

00:36:07.020 Where can people find you?

00:36:08.640 Of course.

00:36:09.260 I'm over at Blaze TV, of course, with the show, or in McIntyre's show.

00:36:12.440 It's also on all the podcast platforms, YouTube, Rumble, Odyssey.

00:36:16.440 You can pick up my book, The Total State, on Amazon.

00:36:19.060 Thank you again for having me, Tim.

00:36:20.120 Thanks for having me.

00:36:20.920 Thanks for joining me, man, and we'll see you next time.

00:36:23.080 See you.

00:36:25.620 All right.

00:36:26.180 That was, of course, Oren McIntyre.

00:36:28.500 I think he made a lot of great points as to this culture war that we are facing.

00:36:33.960 And, you know, I'll make that point one more time.

00:36:36.820 And I believe, obviously, when you read about the Founding Fathers, the United States was founded as a Christian nation.

00:36:43.820 Look this up if you haven't already.

00:36:45.540 We went through all of this.

00:36:46.880 The original 13 colonies all required a professed belief in God.

00:36:50.340 In fact, some of them actually said a Protestant God and that you could not be Catholic.

00:36:56.120 Like, they actually barred Catholics.

00:36:58.220 That's how strict they were on their religion.

00:36:59.780 The Federal Constitution didn't make mention of this, and freedom of religion was protected because they knew there were different denominations of Christian.

00:37:07.440 But, for the most part, the states themselves mandated this.

00:37:11.760 The Founding Fathers in all of these states were like, yeah, of course.

00:37:14.540 The country was 99% Christian.

00:37:17.000 I am not saying that you have to believe whatever.

00:37:21.040 I'm not saying you should be forced to believe whatever.

00:37:22.820 I'm saying these are the moral traditions of this nation, and it's what we have.

00:37:27.260 The left is opposed to this.

00:37:29.620 I think it's fair to say there is a direct correlation between the decrease in Christianity and Christian world tradition.

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00:39:04.640 And the rise of secular leftists who believe the fascistic ethos, there is no truth but power.

00:39:11.500 So my friends, I'm going to wrap up there.

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00:39:49.760 Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

00:39:54.380 I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day.

00:39:59.320 Obviously, the goal is a championship.

00:40:01.180 That's, there's no doubt in that.

00:40:02.960 And that's the goal.

00:40:03.900 We want to win a championship.

00:40:04.860 I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast.

00:40:07.880 In case you missed it with Christina Williams.

00:40:10.240 The WNBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind-the-scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.

00:40:19.740 It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge that we have.

00:40:26.180 For all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

00:40:32.000 So, to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted.

00:40:35.180 But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make a run.

00:40:39.880 So, listen to In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:40:51.580 Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

00:40:56.120 I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day.

00:41:01.060 Obviously, the goal is a championship.

00:41:02.900 That's, there's no doubt in that.

00:41:04.680 And that's the goal.

00:41:05.640 We want to win a championship.

00:41:06.580 I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams.

00:41:11.960 The WNBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind-the-scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.

00:41:21.940 It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge that we have.

00:41:27.860 For all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

00:41:33.260 So, to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted, but we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make a run.

00:41:41.880 So, listen to In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:41:53.600 Whatever team Fia's on has a chance to win a championship.

00:41:56.760 I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams.

00:42:01.940 The WNBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind-the-scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.

00:42:11.640 It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge that we have.

00:42:17.540 So, listen to In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - September 22, 2025

Conservatives Say NO MERCY To Liberals over Charlie Kirk Assassination ft. Auron MacIntyre

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