The Culture War - Tim Pool - DEBATE： Islam Is TAKING OVER the West, America Is A CHRISTIAN NATION w⧸ Alex Stein, Sulaiman Ahmed, Shabbos Kestenbaum, Bo French

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00:00:30.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to The Culture War.

00:00:35.020 We got a great debate.

00:00:36.960 You know what it is, Islam, baby. 0.96

00:00:38.420 So let me introduce all of our guests.

00:00:40.140 We got the one, the only, Shabbos Kestenbaum here.

00:00:43.900 You know, he is not a huge fan of Islam.

00:00:46.220 And then also, sitting to my left, we got Beau French.

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00:00:52.720 And then we got the freaking heel of this whole damn show. 0.99

00:00:57.640 We got the villain that is chilling. 0.99

00:01:00.260 You know him.

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00:01:02.300 Suleiman Ahmad!

00:01:04.480 Did I pronounce your last name right?

00:01:05.820 You got it right.

00:01:06.440 Okay, good.

00:01:07.140 All right.

00:01:07.480 With that being said, folks, today we're going to talk about a topic that is, I guess it can,

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00:01:17.120 So I really encourage everybody that's watching to participate in the chat.

00:01:20.720 We want to get your opinion.

00:01:22.100 And with that being said, who wants to kind of start this thing off?

00:01:26.400 Suleiman, do you want to defend Islam?

00:01:28.040 Do you want to start off by defending Islam?

00:01:29.440 Because I would say that us three, you know, we probably are not the biggest fans of it.

00:01:35.080 Really?

00:01:35.700 You as well, Stiney.

00:01:36.960 I mean, a little bit.

00:01:37.880 I mean, I'm not, you know, I'm a little more in the middle.

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00:03:23.840 Okay, so let's get back to the debate.

00:03:25.880 Suleiman, you know, me, personally, I'm America first.

00:03:29.100 I do not like America having to be the world police.

00:03:32.080 And, you know, personally, I don't really support a regime change necessarily in Iran.

00:03:35.880 But at the exact same time, I was just casted in Roseanne's new upcoming TV show, and she

00:03:40.400 said that I would have a bigger part if I said that we should nuke Iran. 0.94

00:03:43.420 So I have changed my opinion on it a little bit.

00:03:46.700 But that's how they get you, Stani.

00:03:48.140 That is how they get me, and they got me.

00:03:49.960 And, you know what, as a thespian myself, the opportunity was too good to pass up.

00:03:54.760 But on a serious note, Islam, I know that, you know, Shabbos is obviously against it.

00:04:00.620 I know Bo is against it.

00:04:01.780 Some aspects of it I'm against.

00:04:03.360 But I would argue that it's not a bunch of, ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-Akbar terrorists like 0.99

00:04:08.100 they try to act like on TV.

00:04:09.620 So I guess with that being said, let's just kind of open it up, Suleiman.

00:04:12.720 Yeah.

00:04:13.160 Why do people, I guess, have this negative connotation of Islam?

00:04:16.820 Is that just kind of brainwashing from the American media from the 9-11 days?

00:04:20.820 Or why do people have this kind of visceral hatred for Islam?

00:04:24.620 Yeah, that's a very good question.

00:04:26.140 I mean, from my perspective, I believe the reason is, as you mentioned, it's because of

00:04:29.340 the media, and it's the propagation of hatred where Islam is isolated.

00:04:33.980 And I do believe that because a lot of the media is very much pro-Israel, pro-Zionist.

00:04:39.160 So their perspective is, when you demonize Islam, you manufacture consent.

00:04:43.500 So you see them as the other, you're then able to manufacture that consent and hatred 0.98

00:04:48.140 against Muslims, so then you can then bomb the Middle East. 0.99

00:04:51.440 A good example of that is a few months ago, the Israeli Foreign Ministry did a kind of 0.96

00:04:57.440 study and polling.

00:04:59.740 And what they found was that the sentiment against Israel is just so high.

00:05:04.220 Even the United States of America, right now, the majority of people now do not see Israel

00:05:08.220 in a positive light. And what they found was that the best way to redirect that negativity

00:05:14.060 was to direct negativity against Muslims.

00:05:17.440 So I believe that a lot of that is manufactured.

00:05:19.840 Now, in terms of overall, my view is this.

00:05:23.840 Look, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, all of them, when you look at it from a religious

00:05:28.580 perspective, are similar.

00:05:30.300 And what I mean by that is, whatever arguments one, generally speaking, whatever arguments

00:05:35.040 one makes about Islam's compatibility with the West, compatibility with the United States

00:05:39.300 of America, those things or the specific issues which one mentions, you find them in Judaism,

00:05:44.660 you find them in Christianity, and you find them in Islam.

00:05:46.640 And therefore, this hyper-focus on Islam, in my view, is intentional. 0.98

00:05:50.600 Can I jump in real quick?

00:05:51.680 Please, yeah.

00:05:52.120 So first of all, it's not that I have a problem with Islam as a theological doctrine or as a religion,

00:05:56.920 not at all.

00:05:57.300 I think what I have a problem with, and what most Americans have a problem with, is radical

00:06:00.620 Islam.

00:06:01.300 And when you talk about Israel or Zionism, which I'm shocked that it made it in that

00:06:05.280 quickly in this debate.

00:06:06.400 Jesus Christ.

00:06:06.900 We've got to bring it in.

00:06:07.600 It's always done.

00:06:08.640 It's always done.

00:06:09.520 It's always done.

00:06:10.200 We've got to get the 7K.

00:06:11.480 But what I will say is, look, in 1801, the United States fought its very first war as a

00:06:15.600 country, the Barbary Wars.

00:06:16.640 We actually fought it twice, 1801 to 1805, and then I think 1811 to 1815.

00:06:20.980 And we fought Islamists off the coast of Libya.

00:06:23.140 This is 140 years before Israel was even created as a state.

00:06:27.300 And Thomas Jefferson sends dignitaries to talk to the Islamists, like, why are you kidnapping 0.51

00:06:32.500 U.S. merchants?

00:06:33.340 Why is it that you're kidnapping U.S. sailors?

00:06:35.440 And they said, well, you are the infidels, and we are commanded in our Koran.

00:06:39.240 Now, we can debate, is that a true interpretation or not? 0.97

00:06:41.340 But at the end of the day, who the hell cares if it's a true interpretation if Muslims are committing 0.99

00:06:45.420 acts of violence through Islam? 0.98

00:06:47.420 So I have no problem with Islam as a doctrine.

00:06:49.300 What I do have a problem with is radical Islam. 1.00

00:06:51.060 And the last point I'll make, and then I'll shut up, and I think it's really important for

00:06:54.000 people to get this, is there have been, since 9-11, 58,000 Islamic terrorist attacks across

00:07:01.080 the world.

00:07:01.500 There has not been a country, with the exception of, like, four, that have been immune from

00:07:05.180 Islamic terrorist attacks.

00:07:06.560 Jews named Shabbos Kestenbaum, who wear kippahs, aren't going to blow you up on subways. 0.96

00:07:10.760 But unfortunately, a guy who walks into a New York City subway with a backpack and yells 0.76

00:07:14.620 Allah Akbar, unfortunately, gives Islam a bad name.

00:07:17.980 We can talk about Nice, France, 2017 Paris attacks, the reason TSA checks your shoes,

00:07:22.080 the underwear bomber, New Orleans ISIS attack, Westminster, Boston Marathon, Manchester Arena,

00:07:25.680 Pan Man Bonding, Fort Hood, Beltway Sniper, Bali, murder of Lee Rigby, USS Cole bombing,

00:07:29.420 London Bridge attack, Madrid, Charlie Hebdo, San Bernardino, U.S. Marines Beirut bombing,

00:07:33.000 Little Rock Army, Chattanooga Military Base, Polt Nightclub, New York City ISIS trucker attack,

00:07:36.860 the Boulder, Colorado firebombing, D.C. shooting. 0.98

00:07:39.080 These were literally all committed by radical Muslims. 0.56

00:07:42.340 I wish that wasn't true, but unfortunately, it is true, and we have to recognize that reality.

00:07:46.360 Well, I want to make one point real quick, Beau.

00:07:48.160 I'm going to let you get in, but at the beginning of your rebuttal or whatever you want to call it,

00:07:52.680 you did mention Libya, and now Libya, I think, is a perfect example of why it's bad 1.00

00:07:56.360 when America goes and destabilizes a country because Muammar Gaddafi, we destabilize them, 0.58

00:08:00.560 and now Libya is the only place where there's actual slavery.

00:08:03.920 Whoa, first of all, that's not true.

00:08:05.620 Qatar has actual slavery as well. 0.54

00:08:06.940 In fact, the only place is—

00:08:08.580 They import slavery like they did for FIFA and stuff, but they have slave trade.

00:08:12.260 They have slave auctions in Libya.

00:08:13.500 They do not have that in Qatar.

00:08:14.100 But doesn't that prove my point, though, that the only countries actually where slavery actually

00:08:16.900 is legalized are Islamist countries?

00:08:19.200 I mean, it's a major problem.

00:08:20.200 In fact, the biggest slave traders in the world, historically, were not white Westerners

00:08:24.080 in the United States or in England.

00:08:25.740 They were Muslim countries.

00:08:27.200 So there's a tremendous problem with slavery in Muslim countries today. 0.99

00:08:29.940 But I would agree with you.

00:08:31.180 I'm not a fan of regime change.

00:08:33.000 Libya, I think, could have been done differently.

00:08:35.060 Having said that, though, there was a popular uprising amongst Libyans.

00:08:37.920 In the same way today in Iran, there was a popular uprising amongst the majority of Iranians.

00:08:41.560 But absolutely, I'm not in favor of regime change.

00:08:43.780 To be fair, I was four years old during the Iraq War, but I would have opposed it. 0.99

00:08:47.600 I think Iran is a totally different argument to make.

00:08:49.900 But in terms of the fundamental theological differences between Islam and the West, let's

00:08:53.140 say, is Muhammad Nusarit.

00:08:54.900 He's a scholar of Islam in Chicago.

00:08:58.540 And he gave a speech just last month.

00:08:59.920 You can all Google it right now.

00:09:01.100 And he talks about that Islam is superior than all other religions, and we must dominate

00:09:04.580 American culture.

00:09:05.540 That's really bad.

00:09:06.620 And America is a Christian nation.

00:09:07.820 I'm saying this as an Orthodox Jew.

00:09:09.080 It's good for America to remain a Christian nation. 0.91

00:09:11.080 We should encourage way more people, especially Gen Z white men, to go to church and find

00:09:15.260 Jesus and learn the New Testament.

00:09:16.880 But unfortunately, there's an increasing amount of Islamic radicals who don't believe in that.

00:09:20.800 What I would say is it's not like we have 1,400 years of history of Islam on the march,

00:09:27.420 taking over countries, purging Christians and other non-believers. 1.00

00:09:32.300 And then you have just—thank God for social media.

00:09:35.020 We have now in the United States, we have imams here, clerics here who are openly talking

00:09:40.460 about conquering America, making Islam, you know, bringing Islam into every single household. 0.99

00:09:46.660 I mean, it is—I would argue radical Islam is a redundant term.

00:09:50.940 I think Islam is in and of itself radical. 1.00

00:09:53.460 I think the more true statement is that not all Muslims are Islamists.

00:09:58.720 And I think that's the bigger issue here, is Islam is what we're talking about. 1.00

00:10:02.660 Islam is the problem. 1.00

00:10:04.060 Islam is, you know, taking over large swaths of America. 1.00

00:10:07.960 We've seen this huge influx in—even just in Texas, right?

00:10:11.540 You think Texas is this place that's like the bastion of freedom and liberty in America.

00:10:15.900 And we, you know, 300 mosques have been built recently.

00:10:19.400 These are like forward operating bases for, you know, the Islamist movement. 0.96

00:10:23.320 And I think most people are concerned about it, rightly so.

00:10:27.520 We see, you know, when they sort of bring this kind of third world, low IQ mentality into 0.97

00:10:33.980 communities, they take over, they get people on city councils, they elect people like Ilhan

00:10:38.060 Omar to Congress.

00:10:39.420 There's certainly tons of fraud around that.

00:10:41.700 There's lots of money laundering.

00:10:43.160 You know, even in Texas, we had, you know, a big trial, what is that, 20 years ago now,

00:10:48.940 where they were—found all of this money being laundered back to terrorist organizations.

00:10:54.800 So, I mean, this is a problem that is growing in America, and I think too many of our politicians

00:10:58.700 have just ignored it.

00:10:59.600 I mean, how many of us remember when George Bush was like, Islam is a religion of peace?

00:11:03.660 But that's not what Islam says. 0.97

00:11:05.900 Islam specifically says, convert, submit them, or kill them if they don't. 0.99

00:11:11.400 Well, and I want to give Suleman a chance, but real quick, I just want to say this point. 0.53

00:11:14.300 I mean, you know, we talk about Hamas, you know, and they say, you know, Hamas is—obviously 0.60

00:11:18.120 nobody likes Hamas, but if you're a 12-year-old and somebody blows up your dad, you don't

00:11:24.040 have a dad, wouldn't that radicalize you to join Hamas? 0.74

00:11:26.740 I mean, I think it would if I was in that kid's situation.

00:11:29.740 Okay, that's fine, but why are we importing them here?

00:11:32.560 I care less about what happens over there.

00:11:34.940 I mean, it's a tragedy, and I feel bad for people.

00:11:37.000 I mean, you know, I love people.

00:11:38.400 I don't want innocent people to suffer and all of that.

00:11:41.200 I mean, obviously.

00:11:42.240 But we're talking about America, right, the last bastion of freedom in the world.

00:11:46.940 Are we going to protect America and our culture?

00:11:49.440 To your point, it is a Christian nation.

00:11:51.080 That doesn't mean that everybody in America has to be a Christian, and I don't think the

00:11:54.460 founders, you know, explicitly said that everyone had to be a Christian, but they certainly

00:11:58.920 agreed that, you know, we had the freedom to be Christian, and the entire Constitution

00:12:03.820 was written because they agreed that, like, this was the culture that we were, you know,

00:12:09.820 we wanted in America.

00:12:10.880 Can I piggyback real quick, and then I promise I'll shut up?

00:12:13.800 Yeah.

00:12:14.100 In terms of the specifics of the question, first of all, I agree with you.

00:12:16.200 The United States has no obligation to import people who objectively do not share our culture, 0.98

00:12:20.080 do not share our values.

00:12:20.920 So that's first and foremost.

00:12:21.800 In terms of the practicalities, if you're this 12-year-old boy in Gaza, and your dad is

00:12:24.980 a Hamas terrorist, and he's blown up by Israel, aren't you going to become a Hamas terrorist? 0.55

00:12:27.880 That logic has literally never been applied to any war ever fought in human civilization.

00:12:31.220 When we killed Nazi Germans, we didn't say, well, if you're a 12-year-old German and you

00:12:34.960 just saw your dad, who's an SS commander, being shot to death, then you're going to 0.92

00:12:37.520 become an SS man. 0.92

00:12:38.620 No, because we recognize that bad ideas and threats to the West must be eradicated. 0.95

00:12:42.600 The best way to ensure peace on Earth is you so overwhelmingly kill the enemy combatants

00:12:46.620 that they never have the military capabilities nor the ideology to try to pillage a sovereign

00:12:52.440 country ever again.

00:12:53.260 So the best way to ensure peace on Earth is overwhelming military dominance and re-education 0.73

00:12:57.500 of the populace who unfortunately have been fed a diet of political indoctrination, that 0.75

00:13:00.940 the best way to martyr yourself and to get into heaven is by killing innocent civilians. 0.98

00:13:05.060 Let me respond. 0.99

00:13:05.780 There's been literally about 10 minutes, right?

00:13:07.440 And two people here.

00:13:08.300 Sorry.

00:13:08.800 No, no, it's all good.

00:13:09.980 So let me go one at a time.

00:13:11.580 So in terms of this claim that, oh, guess what, when you build mosques, so first of all,

00:13:14.960 I agree the United States of America is a Christian nation based on Christian values.

00:13:19.040 And so therefore, Judaism and Islam almost sits in a similar position in terms of being

00:13:22.960 external to Christianity. 0.95

00:13:24.980 That being said, this claim that I get mosques at outposts is like completely ridiculous. 0.98

00:13:29.600 He also mentioned about Islam saying convert and kill. 0.91

00:13:32.040 That's not a doctrine within Islam.

00:13:34.500 The Quran quite explicitly says within the Quran, there is freedom of religion.

00:13:39.280 Actually, it's in, and the Quran is a lot more lenient in terms of apostasy compared to

00:13:44.740 Christianity and Judaism, which has a lot more harsher punishment when it comes to apostasy.

00:13:49.040 Now, in terms of this claim about Muslims overtaking over the United States of America, 0.99

00:13:54.300 it's just one of the most ridiculous claims ever. 0.98

00:13:57.200 And the reason for it is because if you look at Muslims numerically, they're very low percentage 0.98

00:14:01.420 in the United States of America.

00:14:02.660 When you look at Muslims in terms of key positions of power, they're in extreme minority.

00:14:08.640 You can see disproportionately Jewish people are actually in positions of power, whether

00:14:12.180 it's in politics, whether it's in the media, whether it's in large number of things.

00:14:15.180 And so to make this claim about Islam, it just isn't true in reality.

00:14:19.580 In terms of, I don't know who mentioned it, but someone mentioned about preachers

00:14:22.580 stating things that are extreme.

00:14:25.020 So are there preachers who state extreme things?

00:14:28.900 Of course there is.

00:14:29.700 There's going to be extremists amongst all religions.

00:14:32.520 For example, anyone who's on X, you always see, for example, Jewish priests, Jewish rabbis,

00:14:36.840 sorry, who will be saying extreme things about goyams and Gentiles and so on and so forth.

00:14:40.680 And those videos go viral.

00:14:42.540 And so you can take individual rabbis or imams or priests and say, look, this is the

00:14:47.600 mainstream position.

00:14:48.980 But in reality, you can do that with any religion.

00:14:52.300 In terms of, I think Shabbos mentioned it, he mentioned about Islam has this idea of being

00:14:57.120 superior.

00:14:57.660 That's not true.

00:14:58.920 Actually, in Islam, we have this position that all man is equal, irrespective of race,

00:15:02.720 religion, or creed.

00:15:03.260 The prophet, peace be upon him, his last sermon talked about it doesn't matter what race

00:15:06.100 you are, black, white, brown.

00:15:07.340 It doesn't matter what religion you are, all man is equal.

00:15:09.520 Actually, it's in Judaism where this notion comes where there is this superiority of a 0.91

00:15:14.640 Jew compared to a Gentile or Goyim or whoever you want to say. 1.00

00:15:17.180 So in reality, like that claim is false.

00:15:19.220 In terms of the Barbary Wars, so those pirates, they were within the Ottoman Empire, but they

00:15:25.880 weren't, they were acting like pirates.

00:15:27.660 It wasn't, their basis wasn't based on the dictate of the actual empire.

00:15:31.580 They were acting almost without permission, without any regard.

00:15:35.500 And actually, they were reprimanded on that.

00:15:37.300 And again, look, historically, if you want to look at it historically, where has the biggest

00:15:41.260 beef been?

00:15:41.840 Western society, Christianity, for thousands of years, the biggest problem actually has 1.00

00:15:46.880 been Judaism. 0.60

00:15:47.680 If you look at it, they were thrown out of 109 countries, thousands of times, many times

00:15:52.220 Jews and Muslims made alliances.

00:15:54.200 If you remember, it was the Jews who opened up the doors during the Crusades and so on and

00:15:58.700 so forth.

00:15:59.000 So this idea that basically, you know, is Judaism and Christianity has been loggerheads

00:16:04.060 with Islam is rewriting history because in reality, it was all the way around. 0.98

00:16:07.460 It was Judaism that had major issues with Christianity historically.

00:16:12.760 And when you say it's an issue of Islam, you need to specifically give dictates within

00:16:16.000 Islam that hold that position. 0.98

00:16:18.360 The Quran is the word of God, right?

00:16:20.640 It's certain knowledge you can't to Muslims. 0.98

00:16:22.120 So we believe there's nothing in the Quran that could be wrong.

00:16:24.880 When one takes a Hadith narration, those are probabilistic knowledge.

00:16:28.860 And therefore, that could be right or wrong.

00:16:30.460 So therefore, I presume he's going to pull out with a Hadith and say, oh, guess what? 0.95

00:16:33.360 It says this in a Hadith.

00:16:34.700 But Hadith can never supplement the Quran.

00:16:36.840 The Quran is the word of God.

00:16:37.900 It literally says in the second chapter of the Quran, there is no compulsion in religion.

00:16:43.400 Whereas when you look at, and this is what my thesis is, that wherever you find in

00:16:47.380 Islam, you'll find it in Judaism, you'll find it in Christianity.

00:16:49.940 And actually, the punishment in those religions are a lot more harsher.

00:16:52.880 I think I covered it in terms of extremism.

00:16:55.100 So there's a lot more comments that were made.

00:16:56.320 Apologies.

00:16:56.980 One thing I will say, though, to be fair, in the Old Testament, there are a lot of instances

00:17:01.500 where people are told to be put to death for kind of innocuous reasons.

00:17:06.200 I mean, if you do look at the Old Testament.

00:17:08.240 So I'm just saying, and that's spiritual doctrine.

00:17:10.860 There is some killing in it.

00:17:12.360 Yeah, I mean, I'm just calling balls and strikes.

00:17:16.220 But as Christians, we have a new covenant, right?

00:17:20.220 That's what the New Testament is.

00:17:21.140 So the difference between the Bible and the Quran is that the later part of our Bible,

00:17:27.260 things moderate dramatically when it comes to things like putting people to death and

00:17:30.700 whatever.

00:17:31.380 So you're talking about the Torah?

00:17:32.720 So let me defend, first of all, the Hebrew Bible, not the Old Testament.

00:17:38.200 Yeah.

00:17:38.940 It's fine.

00:17:39.580 It's fine.

00:17:39.760 Don't try and appropriate.

00:17:40.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:42.100 Don't Jew-splain. 1.00

00:17:43.200 First of all, in terms of the Goyim thing, Goyim literally just means nation.

00:17:46.020 So Jews are also Goyim. 0.97

00:17:47.100 So I know on Twitter, like that's red meat to the base, like saying Goyim, sorry.

00:17:51.100 Is it Gentile or is that? 1.00

00:17:52.480 Well, Gentile just means non-Jew, but that's not a biblical term.

00:17:54.640 That's just a sociological term.

00:17:55.860 Being Jewish, you're not a chosen people.

00:17:58.040 I mean, that-

00:17:58.580 But chosen doesn't mean better.

00:17:59.600 And that's why Judaism is one of the- 1.00

00:18:01.000 Hang on, let me explain, let me explain, let me explain.

00:18:02.420 Real quick, but isn't that semantics?

00:18:03.600 But go ahead.

00:18:03.980 It's not semantics at all.

00:18:05.020 There's literally, again, in the Hebrew Bible, you will not find at any point Jews saying that.

00:18:08.820 That's why when you said Jewish supremacy or Jews believe we're better. 1.00

00:18:10.840 I mean, we literally don't. 1.00

00:18:11.620 If you want to be oppressed for 3,000 years, by all means, you're happy to convert to Judaism and circumcise your penis. 1.00

00:18:15.880 But I don't think most people want to do that thing. 0.99

00:18:17.620 We're one of the only religions that don't convert.

00:18:19.320 Not because we think we're better than you.

00:18:20.760 We just think you don't have to live a life in accordance with 613 mammon.

00:18:23.520 It's what you do have to do with seven Noahide laws, which anyone should do. 0.95

00:18:26.040 Tony Dokopoul, the new CBS guy, got an adult circumcision.

00:18:29.260 That's weird.

00:18:29.780 That's really weird.

00:18:30.480 Sorry to go back to your point, but he did.

00:18:32.180 Is that how he got his promotion?

00:18:33.840 That's okay. 0.96

00:18:34.840 He said you must be circumcised.

00:18:36.960 As an adult, but I just want to-

00:18:38.360 Although, to be fair, RFK-

00:18:39.620 RFK also said men should be-

00:18:42.080 Oh, no.

00:18:42.340 He said circumcision leads to retardation or something.

00:18:45.020 But in terms of the specifics of the point, the parameters of this debate is not theological, right?

00:18:50.060 So I don't think it's worthwhile to talk about what the Koran says versus what the Hebrew Bible says because it's kind of irrelevant.

00:18:55.380 I've never read in full-

00:18:56.420 No, because he said Islam.

00:18:57.480 That's why.

00:18:57.880 Right.

00:18:58.220 So let me respond.

00:18:59.680 So that's why all I care about is the practicalities.

00:19:02.460 I care how I, as a Jewish person, as an American, will be impacted.

00:19:05.680 So whether the Koran or the Hadith is superior, it doesn't really matter. 0.97

00:19:08.240 All I care about is there is a disproportionate amount, unfortunately, of Muslims, not all Muslims, obviously, but of many Muslims who will use theological justifications to kill other people. 1.00

00:19:18.800 That's where I have my problems. 0.69

00:19:21.280 So if you want to talk about, well, the Hebrew Bible has verses that are definitely incompatible with Western civilization, one, I would disagree with you.

00:19:26.700 But even if that's the case, which it isn't, it's kind of irrelevant because, as I said from the get-go, American Jews aren't committing terrorist attacks.

00:19:34.260 White Christian Americans are not committing terrorist attacks.

00:19:36.860 But unfortunately, we are seeing that way too many Muslims are coming into the United States who are not interested in assimilation, who are not interested in adopting Western democracy, and unfortunately, take violence as a political or religious necessity. 1.00

00:19:50.940 That's where it becomes problematic.

00:19:52.320 And to deny that is to deny reality itself.

00:19:54.600 And the last point I want to make is I'm not entirely sure what you meant when you said Jews open the door for the Crusaders because we have a lot of fast days, which, again, you're more than welcome to be Jewish.

00:20:03.040 But trust me, you don't want to be because, like, half the year, we're just abstaining from eating and drinking.

00:20:07.040 One of the fast days is when we fast over the Crusades because they were awful.

00:20:10.800 I mean, the communities of Maines and Worms across Europe were decimated by the Crusaders.

00:20:14.980 So the idea that we would open the door for the Crusaders is just divorced from reality.

00:20:18.040 We were butchered by the Crusaders.

00:20:19.860 I'm saying you support the Muslims.

00:20:21.680 Well, no, because under the Muslim rule, we were granted second-class citizens. 0.89

00:20:24.920 We were demis, and we paid a jizzy tax, which, A, is not a great terminology for 21st century lexicon.

00:20:31.500 But we actually paid a tax as second-class citizens to our Muslim rulers. 0.57

00:20:34.740 So it was not all great living under the Muslims either. 1.00

00:20:36.940 The only time Jews ever had a peaceful coexistence is when we were living in our ancestral homeland, the land of Judea.

00:20:42.920 We are one of the only religious groups in the world that are actually named after the place we come from.

00:20:47.120 Jews come from Judea.

00:20:48.500 Arabs come from Arabia.

00:20:49.880 But you wouldn't really know that because the Arab colonization was one of the greatest colonization experiments in human history, which is why they're now all over the world. 1.00

00:20:56.420 They dominated Spain.

00:20:57.460 They dominated—they're trying to dominate the United States.

00:21:00.220 Jews aren't trying to expand territory.

00:21:01.880 As much as on Twitter you'll talk about the Greater Israel Project, it's not a thing.

00:21:04.620 In fact, we've given—I shouldn't say we—Israel has given more land away since its establishment in 1948 than any other country.

00:21:10.600 So I was hoping that we were going to have a debate in good faith here.

00:21:13.940 So just along those lines, let me clarify something you said.

00:21:16.740 What is the surah?

00:21:19.360 Is that in the Quran?

00:21:21.200 Yeah, it is.

00:21:21.640 Okay.

00:21:22.200 So the surah, the Quran, defines what an infidel is. 1.00

00:21:27.040 What does it define as?

00:21:27.680 And it says, infidels are those that say, God is the Christ, the Son of Mary. 1.00

00:21:31.600 That's surah 517.

00:21:32.820 It doesn't say that.

00:21:33.300 And then it says, make war on the infidels who dwell around you.

00:21:36.620 That's surah 9123. 0.99

00:21:38.520 And then it says, kill the disbelievers wherever they find them. 1.00

00:21:41.940 Surah 2191. 0.99

00:21:43.140 So in the Quran, it literally defines what an infidel is, is a non-believer. 1.00

00:21:46.600 And then it says, kill them. 1.00

00:21:47.680 Okay. 1.00

00:21:47.820 Let me reboot that.

00:21:48.800 And then I'll go to you.

00:21:49.520 I need to almost have double the time.

00:21:51.760 You got a lot.

00:21:51.980 You got a lot.

00:21:52.660 I always forget.

00:21:54.480 Both of me and him speak really fast as well.

00:21:56.380 Sorry, sorry.

00:21:57.400 No, it's both of us.

00:21:58.520 So in terms of what you said, so again, that's just fake news.

00:22:01.620 Because in reality, the Quran actually has categories, right?

00:22:06.180 Infidel, or as you say, kafir, isn't for Muslims and Christians.

00:22:09.440 It's actually for people who are disbelievers, atheists, pagans. 0.61

00:22:13.440 The Muslims, Christians and Jews are basically categorized in the Quran as Ahlal Kitab, the people of the book.

00:22:20.960 And there's a specific category for them.

00:22:22.960 For example, according to Muslims, you can marry people from the book. 0.51

00:22:25.300 You can eat from their food and so on and so forth.

00:22:27.060 So when you're making that definition, that's just, you just made it up.

00:22:29.500 And Islam speaks higher of Jesus.

00:22:31.620 Then, you know, Judaism. 0.93

00:22:34.120 Can I respond to that?

00:22:35.580 Judaism does not mention Jesus.

00:22:37.380 Okay, fun fact.

00:22:38.340 I'm happy to respond to any of the accusations.

00:22:40.680 There is no strength to he's burning it.

00:22:43.060 No, he isn't.

00:22:43.820 I want you to continue and then I'll respond.

00:22:45.700 It's not a thing.

00:22:46.400 I'll respond.

00:22:46.880 Okay, but they do think that Jesus was just some sort of magician and that his miracles were magic and not the son of God.

00:22:52.740 No, we don't call him a magician.

00:22:54.140 We don't talk about him.

00:22:55.180 And I think that might kind of upset non-Jews because they think we have this great conspiracy. 0.77

00:22:59.720 But I don't want to interrupt you, so I'll let you continue.

00:23:01.620 But I'm happy to talk about what Jews believe in Jesus because he wasn't really a factor in our lives.

00:23:05.340 He was Jewish.

00:23:06.620 Okay, so in terms of, so I mentioned his point.

00:23:09.020 And the second verse, what was the second verse you mentioned?

00:23:11.620 The third one you mentioned, that is specifically Surah 9, verse 23 or 30-something, where it is.

00:23:17.440 That's specifically talking about in a time of war.

00:23:19.620 So in a time of war, what the issue was is at that time, the Muslims didn't want to fight because what happened was the pagans, because it was Muslims who gave sanctuary to the Muslims at that time.

00:23:31.940 It was the Christian king of Abyssinia who, when they went to find sanctuary because the pagans were going to kill them, they read the Muslim view of Mary because the Muslim view of Mary is very positive.

00:23:43.400 And so when he read it, he was like, wow, this is amazing.

00:23:45.800 This is the same as the biblical view, unlike the view in Judaism in terms of Mary.

00:23:51.200 So that specifically is talking about when there was a war between the pagans and the non-Muslims, what was happening was they were, because they knew each other before, and then they became this kind of animosity because, you know, Muslims and pagans, the pagans were trying to eradicate the Muslims.

00:24:05.360 And so therefore, what it was is, look, they're fighting you, they're killing you in the battle.

00:24:08.140 So don't, like, stand back.

00:24:10.120 Don't be a pacifist.

00:24:10.940 You're going to have to, you know, resort to fighting in battle, in war.

00:24:14.340 And it's specifically talking about wartime.

00:24:15.840 So again, this is just, like, wrong.

00:24:17.060 It's just the kind of, like, misinterpretation of the Quran when it never talks about that.

00:24:21.560 We have 1,400 years of Islam committing war against its neighbors. 1.00

00:24:26.320 So I think it's one continuous war.

00:24:28.260 Are you guys familiar with Takiyah?

00:24:29.820 I think what we've just witnessed is, you know, the dishonesty of trying to frame Islam as something peaceful and not what it actually is. 0.99

00:24:39.340 But we actually have a track record that we can point to.

00:24:42.200 We actually have people, even in Texas, where I live, we have mosques that are preaching this very thing, talking about how they're going to make everybody submit.

00:24:52.700 And which is, isn't that what Islam means, submit?

00:24:55.020 It means submit to God, right?

00:24:57.260 Not submit, make people submit.

00:24:59.160 To Islam's version of God. 1.00

00:25:00.660 To God, yeah.

00:25:01.540 Not to make people submit.

00:25:03.040 But in terms of what you said, no, you didn't see Takiyah.

00:25:05.040 Maybe you're getting confused because you're a dishonest person in terms of the verses that you're putting in.

00:25:08.880 But what is Takiyah?

00:25:09.520 Takiyah is found in, no, because I thought we're going to have a respectful conversation.

00:25:13.240 We can hear hash as well, we can hear hash as well.

00:25:15.300 Because, you know, it does, you know, we are.

00:25:16.660 No, but Takiyah means, when they say Takiyah, first of all, Takiyah is not found within Sunni Islam.

00:25:21.160 I'm a Sunni Muslim.

00:25:22.120 The claim is found within Shia Islam, even though I disagree that even Shia believe in that.

00:25:26.300 But I'm not an expert on Shia Islam.

00:25:27.600 But within Sunni Islam, Takiyah is not found.

00:25:29.840 So, what's happened is you relayed verses and when your verses were rebutted, you were like, oh, Takiyah, Takiyah.

00:25:35.400 No, it's not. 0.81

00:25:35.800 You just came up with ridiculous arguments. 0.96

00:25:37.720 You perpetuated fake news and then you got debunked. 0.88

00:25:40.100 Now, in terms of your argument, in terms of submitting 1400 years of history, 1400 years of history has found many expansions, right?

00:25:46.680 I agree with him that Judaism hasn't expanded.

00:25:48.460 And I believe when it came from, when it came to Judaism after 1945, they mowed. 1.00

00:25:54.160 48.

00:25:55.340 No, I mean after World War II.

00:25:56.400 I mean after the Holocaust and the World War II.

00:25:58.320 But the same was established in 48.

00:25:59.380 I'm not talking about the state of Israel.

00:26:00.360 I'm talking about after the Holocaust. 0.73

00:26:01.840 Sure.

00:26:02.780 Because it finished in 1945, isn't it?

00:26:04.580 Yeah.

00:26:04.700 The World War II.

00:26:05.240 Yep, you're right.

00:26:06.500 What happened was that Jewish people found themselves in a situation where the mantra never again.

00:26:11.060 And I believe that what they did was they didn't expand physically because Judaism, unlike Christianity and Islam, although he can deny it, 0.98

00:26:17.000 is in both those religions evangelize.

00:26:20.380 Judaism doesn't evangelize Judaism.

00:26:22.440 What they did was they made sure that they expanded in terms of power and control as opposed to territorial dominance.

00:26:29.500 In terms of expansion over history, you talk about 1400 years of history.

00:26:33.580 But actually, if you look at it, yes, there was Arab expansion.

00:26:36.140 There's no doubt about it.

00:26:36.720 Or Muslim expansion, whatever you want to call it, right?

00:26:38.440 There was definitely, right?

00:26:39.400 And I'm against that because I believe that, you know, I'm against like, I only believe in defensive war.

00:26:43.760 That being said, to make the argument that this never happened with Christianity or with anyone else, it did.

00:26:49.100 Like, look at, for example, North America.

00:26:51.660 Look at South America.

00:26:52.600 These weren't Christian countries.

00:26:54.240 Look at Australia.

00:26:55.260 Look at New Zealand.

00:26:56.000 So expansion has happened, of course, in the past.

00:26:58.840 Obviously, I don't believe that was part of Christianity.

00:27:00.980 I believe that these people expanded, going against the faith, even though one may argue that these were very religious Protestant Christians.

00:27:09.120 And similarly with Islam, I believe that it happened. 0.97

00:27:11.580 But I don't believe that it followed the edicts of Islam. 0.54

00:27:13.540 In terms of just the last point, because there's so many points that have been made.

00:27:16.040 When you said that you don't find someone with a kippur blowing someone up or whatever it may be, the difference is, first of all, there is extremism, right? 0.97

00:27:23.100 There is extreme.

00:27:23.520 But when you say disproportionate, that's where I disagree.

00:27:26.060 There's two billion Muslims.

00:27:27.640 You have some extreme elements.

00:27:29.680 Some of that was done because of propagation of this extreme elements within Islam. 0.98

00:27:34.100 For example, Wahhabi Islam or extreme Salafist Islam, which is propagated and promoted by the allies of the United States of America, like Saudi and UAE, whose views I don't agree with.

00:27:43.920 But they did push that.

00:27:44.720 They pushed that kind of view.

00:27:46.020 They pushed those ideas.

00:27:46.900 And then some of those people are paid for hire as well because they're poor.

00:27:50.360 You pay them.

00:27:50.940 And, you know, so in Syria, if you remember, a lot of the people, some of them were ISIS.

00:27:54.680 They didn't believe in those ideas, even though they were funded by the United States of America and Israel.

00:27:59.060 But they are supported by Israel.

00:28:01.080 But then on the other hand, you also had it where they were just paid by hire.

00:28:04.160 So, for example, you know, you had people from Uzbekistan, Central Asia coming in just because they were being paid.

00:28:08.280 In terms of when you don't find someone with a kippur, yeah, because the difference is they're not going to go fight.

00:28:12.400 They're not going to go.

00:28:12.880 They're going to get someone else to fight.

00:28:13.940 They're going to get another person to fight.

00:28:15.380 They're going to get other countries to go to war. 0.76

00:28:17.140 They're going to do it in a different way because they're a lot more smarter in that perspective.

00:28:22.480 So let me respond because there are a lot of accusations being made.

00:28:24.900 Again, if you want to make the claim that Jews who wear keepers in the United States aren't blowing themselves up because they'll get Muslims to blow themselves up, you're going to have to substantiate. 1.00

00:28:31.620 You just said. 0.98

00:28:32.200 No, no, I said they get murdered.

00:28:33.620 No, no, I said they control war.

00:28:35.040 So you're going to have to substantiate the claim that American Jews and, like, which American Jews are paying and who specifically are they paying to blow themselves up?

00:28:44.240 The premise of this debate, again, was not theological differences, although I am happy to get into theological debate.

00:28:49.900 We can talk about how in 628 CE, Muhammad led his army into Saudi Arabia to kill the entire Jewish community, which is why even today you had, when all the Jewish hostages were being released in Gaza, Haiber Haiber Al-Yehud, which is a chant they're still saying today.

00:29:02.580 But I don't really want to get into that, but we can if you want.

00:29:04.480 All I'm saying is irrespective of the theological differences, what matters are the practical political ramifications.

00:29:09.240 All I care about is that today the reason we have such a large refugee crisis is because countries, predominantly Islamic countries in the Middle East, are failed states. 0.99

00:29:17.620 The reason we're talking about regime change is because there's a country called Iran, the Islamic regime of Iran, that will kill you. 0.96

00:29:23.980 Laws on the books right now that if you convert to a different religion, they will kill you. 0.79

00:29:27.760 You know what Judaism's answer is if you convert to another religion? 0.98

00:29:30.440 Well, unfortunately, intermarriage is like one of the problems facing Judaism.

00:29:34.320 There's no consequences to intermarriage, which, again, theologically, it's a bit problematic.

00:29:38.880 But politically, no, there's zero consequences because we believe—

00:29:42.040 No, but theologically, what?

00:29:42.780 I'm just asking.

00:29:43.280 I'm not interested in that.

00:29:43.840 Oh, theologically, what happens?

00:29:45.200 Your kids aren't Jewish.

00:29:46.140 That's it.

00:29:46.220 I understand this.

00:29:46.840 Yeah, that's it.

00:29:47.360 That's it.

00:29:47.620 Your kids aren't Jewish. 0.99

00:29:48.440 But it's not that we would kill you.

00:29:49.720 And again, we even hear cases in the United States where communities that have a tremendous problem with assimilation, you have honor killings because people are converting or they're leaving.

00:29:57.760 They're leaving the religion of Islam entirely. 0.99

00:29:59.040 So whether that's based on a true or authentic interpretation of the Koran, who the hell cares? 0.98

00:30:03.280 All I care about is that people are actually being killed by radical Muslims, which brings me to my last point, and then I'll shut up, which is to say this. 0.94

00:30:11.060 This is one of the problems I have with Israel-Gaza, and I'm happy to get into that debate later, which is to say this. 0.91

00:30:16.240 Judaism believes, and Western philosophy believes this as well, that all human beings, whether you're a Muslim, whether you're a Jew, whether you're a Christian, it doesn't matter.

00:30:23.720 You are born with human agency, and you can make choices in life.

00:30:26.840 And the only person who is responsible—this is actually what Dennis Prager of Prager U taught me—the only person who is responsible for the choices in your life is you.

00:30:34.680 You have the ultimate authority to decide what your life will end up looking like.

00:30:38.720 And to simply say, and this goes back to your point, that the reason that there is Islamic terrorism is because something the Jews or something Israel or something that they experienced makes something of your life. 0.54

00:30:47.780 After World War II, which actually was a genocide, where 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, and I know everyone on Twitter is going to say, 271, you can't bake cookies or whatever.

00:30:55.620 Whatever.

00:30:56.060 A lot of Jews were killed.

00:30:57.240 You're missing the point.

00:30:59.300 Exactly.

00:30:59.860 You're missing the point.

00:31:00.700 The point being, the Jewish response was not to pillage-rape German women in Germany and Poland and Hungary and Ukraine.

00:31:07.300 The response was to make something of their life.

00:31:09.520 So when you talk about the disproportionate amount of Jews in politics or in media, it's not a conspiracy.

00:31:14.620 It actually is based in reality that Jews believe tremendously in the power of education, that you have to have professional success, that you have to build a better life for your community.

00:31:23.240 And again, I wish all peoples—Muslims, Christians, blacks—they would take that approach as well.

00:31:27.960 There are actually Jewish organizations in the United States today.

00:31:30.320 They're not very successful, but they will actually try to the best of their ability to get Jewish kids out of public school into Jewish day schools.

00:31:37.400 And I wish, I would hope, that Muslim communities in America and Christian communities in America did the same thing.

00:31:44.100 Christian parents should be teaching their kids the values of Christianity.

00:31:47.740 They should be sending their kids to Christian day schools.

00:31:49.760 America would be such a much better country if more Christians went to church, if more Christians went to Bible. 0.94

00:31:54.540 And Judaism says that's absolutely great.

00:31:56.440 And unfortunately, let's call a spade a spade, leaving aside theology on a practical matter.

00:32:01.100 There is a disproportionate and significant amount of Muslims in America, and Muslim leadership in particular, who do not believe in the things I just said. 0.95

00:32:08.960 Well, I just want to make this one point, though.

00:32:11.760 And Shabbas, I might be wrong.

00:32:13.780 I don't want to misrepresent you.

00:32:15.220 But weren't you kind of a leftist, and then you became conservative?

00:32:17.660 Is that—

00:32:17.920 Yeah.

00:32:18.020 Okay, so why is it that all the young people, like iShowSpeed, the biggest, you know, live streamer that there is right now, is free Palestine?

00:32:26.020 You know, if radical Islam is so dangerous, why would you say the majority of people under 30 support Palestine? 0.70

00:32:33.600 That is the question.

00:32:34.580 I'm glad you asked that.

00:32:35.260 So there are two ways of answering it. 0.93

00:32:36.660 Number one, you can hate Jews as much as you want. 1.00

00:32:38.860 You can hate Israel as much as you want. 1.00

00:32:40.260 Hate Bibi as much as you want. 0.98

00:32:41.440 Fine.

00:32:42.120 But I am begging the American people. 0.99

00:32:44.240 I know my name is a walking fucking stereotype, okay? 0.99

00:32:46.820 I know I wear the funny hat and I have the crooked nose. 0.99

00:32:48.700 I get it.

00:32:49.460 Hate me as much as you want. 1.00

00:32:50.940 But I am begging you, do not listen to people, whether they're on the right or the left, who tell you that no one is going to, you know, fuck you if you don't take crystal meth and look a certain way. 1.00

00:32:59.700 No one is going to give you a job if you don't denounce Israel. 1.00

00:33:03.680 The only arbiter of whether you will have a successful life is you. 0.99

00:33:07.520 Stop listening to low-IQ, mentally challenged podcasters or individuals on the Twitterverse who are telling you that the reason your life sucks is because something's something to Jews. 1.00

00:33:16.320 And again, hate us as much as you want. 1.00

00:33:18.240 I don't care.

00:33:19.060 But I'm so deeply concerned about the demoralization of young people in America, which is why Charlie Kirk was such an incredible human being, not because he supported Israel, not because he liked Jews, but because he told people, you will be a better person if you get married and have kids and find Jesus. 0.96

00:33:31.460 And as an Orthodox Jew, I am telling you, that is the best antidote to the crap that young people are experiencing today. 0.86

00:33:38.200 Why are young people so heavily medicated? 0.99

00:33:40.080 Why are they disproportionately depressed and have anxiety?

00:33:42.100 It's because they don't have Jesus in their life.

00:33:43.900 It's because they don't have meaning.

00:33:45.240 It's because they're listening to people online telling them that you'll never get ahead in life.

00:33:48.740 You'll never find a woman.

00:33:50.020 You'll never be successful because something's something to Jews. 1.00

00:33:52.360 So that's first and foremost. 0.52

00:33:53.280 Hate Israel as much as you want, but please, for the love of God, like, go to church.

00:33:56.520 In terms of why so many young people are into this, look, I know this is going to be clipped online and you're going to take this out of context, but let's call a spade a spade.

00:34:03.760 ByteDance is a subsidiary of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:34:05.920 The Chinese Communist Party on record has stated that it would be a good thing for their long-term foreign policy to have young Americans not only hate Israel and hate the Jews, but to hate the West, to distrust American institutions, to distrust the system at large.

00:34:17.980 And one of the best points of that is the flashpoint of Israel-Palestine, which is why you had millions of young Americans, particularly on college campuses like at Harvard where I was, who were talking about freeing Palestine and supporting Hamas.

00:34:28.720 And not a single person is interested in supporting the Iranian people as they are also being gunned down in the streets chanting for the exact same rights that I believe Palestinians should have in Gaza as well.

00:34:37.700 So a lot of it is disinformation.

00:34:38.820 And the last point I'll make, and then I promise I'll stop talking, which is to say this, at Harvard, at Columbia, at Yale, at Penn, at UCLA, all across American institutions of higher learning, we have been fed a diet of political indoctrination of diversity, equity, inclusion, that the world is comprised of two categories, the oppressed and the oppressors.

00:34:52.840 And you have carte blanche freedom if you are the oppressed to do whatever it is you would like to rid yourself of that oppression, which is why Luigi Mangione, who shot and killed Brian Thompson, the UnitedHealthcare CEO, in broad daylight, every single age demographic in this country condemns what he did with one exception, 18 to 24-year-olds.

00:35:08.240 Why? Because he was oppressed. He had back problems. So he has the freedom, he has the moral obligation to rid himself of that oppression, which is why you can show my classmates at Harvard, you can show young people the most horrific images of October 7th.

00:35:19.700 It will not move them in any measurable way, because even though Israel is roughly two-thirds Middle Eastern, so it's not a white country at all, Israel has the misappropriation, has the stereotype of being a white country.

00:35:29.960 And if you're white, you're part of the oppressor class. So Israel will always be the oppressor. They can never do anything right. 0.99

00:35:35.800 A lot of it has to do with these binary DEI. And again, I'm happy to get into a debate of Israel-Gaza, but that's my general consensus, leaving aside Israel-Gaza, that young people are too often put into these stupid binaries of literally black versus white, which is why you have these insane, dumb, white, liberal women who are, you know, trying to run over ICE officers to save their illegal immigrant Somali Muslim friend. It's insanity. 1.00

00:35:58.940 Okay. I'm going to get through that. So the first thing is, in terms of people having autonomy, of course, every human has autonomy. But as you mentioned, you work for PragerU. One of the things PragerU does is funds a lot of money, spends a lot of money, hence why you work for them, is to propagate information because they believe that they'll be able to influence people.

00:36:17.940 So this idea that people are not influenced is removing a key category of-

00:36:23.440 Can I have 10 seconds to respond to that before we move on to the next point? That's literally what every single human being on planet Earth does. That's the reason we're on this podcast, because in the marketplace of ideas, obviously, I want to influence people because I think I'm right. Obviously, you want to influence people because you think you're right.

00:36:34.460 So obviously, PragerU does that, the Daily Wire.

00:36:36.380 That's my point.

00:36:36.720 Any human being on planet Earth does that.

00:36:38.660 That's my point.

00:36:38.860 Okay, good.

00:36:39.440 So glad we're on the same page. Sorry.

00:36:40.940 Sorry for interrupting.

00:36:42.100 No, because you said each person has autonomy to make their own decision. I agree with that.

00:36:46.000 If people think I'm wrong, they shouldn't listen to me. In the same way, if people don't think you're right, they shouldn't listen to you. Make your own choices.

00:36:50.500 No, no, I agree with that. But let me just finish my point.

00:36:52.180 So although you're right, everyone tries to influence, hence why we're on this podcast.

00:36:56.680 We believe that our ideas are stronger than everybody else's.

00:36:58.880 That being said, what I'm saying is that what then we're admitting is that we believe that we're able to influence the populace.

00:37:04.660 And now what happens is if you believe you're able to influence the populace, then the question mark becomes in what way?

00:37:10.560 So when you've got people, institutes like Prager University, or you, for example, got the media,

00:37:15.280 or you've got social media, and yes, the people who are pro-Israel push that position, push that propaganda more than anything else, you're able to influence.

00:37:23.060 And so what I mean by that is this. So when you talked about, for example, Jewish people, now I do believe Jewish people were oppressed, right?

00:37:30.600 But that being said, no, because some people don't.

00:37:33.420 I appreciate the concession.

00:37:35.180 No, no, it's not a concession. It's just the way history is, right?

00:37:38.660 But that being said, I believe that what happened was because they were, they then thought, look, we're never going to allow this to happen again, never again.

00:37:46.880 And therefore, as you said, they disproportionately are in media, they're disproportionately in politics, disproportionately in all these things.

00:37:54.440 And what then happens is they were able to influence society.

00:37:57.700 So yeah, I agree. Each person should believe that they can make a difference.

00:38:00.780 And I believe that once you realize these things are happening, because when you're getting influenced, and you don't know that you're getting influenced, it's much worse.

00:38:06.600 But now that people have become aware, the great awakenings happen, people are aware that they're being influenced by Zionists. 0.99

00:38:11.880 Now they're able to wake up.

00:38:13.100 So when, for example, society is being liberalized, when there's a population collapse amongst the white populace, when there's, as you mentioned, many of these DEI policies,

00:38:21.820 or as you mentioned, when you've got huge immigration issues, people are realizing, wait a sec,

00:38:25.540 this group of people, these Zionists, are actually there to harm white Christian society, are there to harm society, to minimize the numbers, to destroy them internally. 1.00

00:38:33.540 And I do actually believe that this was done intentionally because they were seen as a threat because of what happened in World War II and prior, the thousands of years prior.

00:38:41.520 In terms of the other points you mentioned, I can't remember most of the points you mentioned.

00:38:46.580 Can I quickly respond to that?

00:38:47.600 I'm not sure how this works.

00:38:48.360 Can we do that?

00:38:49.280 Can we do one at a time?

00:38:50.800 Because you're doing like, you're doing five points, you're doing five points.

00:38:53.320 So let's do one at a time.

00:38:54.500 Let me just quickly respond.

00:38:55.280 First of all, it's interesting you're interchangeably using Jews and Zionists.

00:38:58.840 I don't know if you did that intentionally or not, because I know, because we were talking earlier, that you make a distinction.

00:39:02.520 So it's just interesting, perhaps subconsciously, you keep saying Zionists, then you also keep saying Jews.

00:39:06.780 Again, I can see the point.

00:39:07.680 Because it's the Jewish Zionists who did it. 1.00

00:39:10.100 I'm not sure what you mean by that, but that's a different discussion.

00:39:13.060 It's not a conspiracy.

00:39:14.320 I mean, Jewish supremacy. 0.98

00:39:15.540 I don't know what Jewish supremacy means, considering there are less Jews alive today than pre-World War II.

00:39:19.720 And this is my greater point.

00:39:20.600 I don't believe that.

00:39:21.260 What do you mean you don't believe that?

00:39:21.980 There are less Jews alive today than there were pre-World War II.

00:39:24.140 No, not at all.

00:39:27.580 There were 16 million Jews.

00:39:28.400 You could look this up right now.

00:39:29.360 You could look it up right now.

00:39:30.460 There are less Jews alive today.

00:39:31.640 No, no, I don't agree with that.

00:39:32.840 It's not a question of agreeing or disagreeing.

00:39:35.520 Because I understand you check Jew on your thing. 1.00

00:39:36.500 But it's not a question of agreeing or disagreeing.

00:39:37.940 You can Google it.

00:39:38.600 You can fact check me to say it now in live time.

00:39:40.260 He doesn't tick Jew, but he's a Jew, as an example. 0.88

00:39:42.640 It's irrelevant who's Jewish. 0.99

00:39:43.820 There are less Jews alive today than there were pre-World War II.

00:39:46.140 See, I don't know.

00:39:46.600 Because a lot of people don't take that.

00:39:47.600 Google it right now.

00:39:48.920 If you Google can a boy have a baby, it would say yes. 0.79

00:39:52.760 No, but Google won't show that Shabbos.

00:39:55.320 What?

00:39:55.480 Because, for example, let me give you an example.

00:39:56.900 Wait, we're getting really accurate.

00:39:58.780 Let me just make the point and then I'll let you respond.

00:40:00.220 There are many people who are Jews who don't take Jews.

00:40:00.700 So there's a lot more Jews than the claim.

00:40:02.680 Okay.

00:40:03.180 In fact, it's not true.

00:40:04.200 But again, you can all Google it right now.

00:40:05.740 If you want to make the excuse.

00:40:06.300 If you want to make that point, of the roughly 15 million Jews alive today, then yes, if

00:40:30.340 you want to take an orthodox perspective, I would say a significant amount are not what

00:40:33.580 we call halakhically.

00:40:34.420 Halakh means Jewish law.

00:40:35.200 Halakh is not what I mean.

00:40:37.020 That's exactly what you mean.

00:40:38.040 No, I mean the opposite.

00:40:39.060 I mean, there's more than 15 million.

00:40:40.280 So, for example, if there's somebody, some people who are Jewish, but then, for example,

00:40:44.880 they won't take the Jewish. 0.99

00:40:45.840 He'll take his Christian, but then he's Jewish as an example. 0.98

00:40:48.120 No, I understand your point.

00:40:49.080 And in 1935.

00:40:49.560 The numbers are a lot higher than 15.

00:40:50.500 No, it's not higher.

00:40:51.440 In 1935.

00:40:52.380 Hang on, wait, let me make the point.

00:40:53.600 Let me make the point.

00:40:54.160 Almost 2 billion.

00:40:54.860 Hang on.

00:40:55.360 Let me make the point.

00:40:55.860 Similar to Christians. 1.00

00:40:56.240 Let me make the point.

00:40:57.060 It says I'm right.

00:40:58.980 In 1935, the Nuremberg Laws.

00:41:00.320 I know that.

00:41:01.000 You don't understand my point.

00:41:01.800 I'm addressing your point right now.

00:41:03.200 In 1935, the Nuremberg Laws clearly stated, what are the definitions of a Jew?

00:41:07.580 Not if you have a Jewish mother, which would be the Jewish law categorization, but even

00:41:11.000 if you had, like our friend, Alex Steinberg, if you had a Jewish grandfather, you would 0.97

00:41:15.680 be sent to death. 0.89

00:41:16.880 So, your categorization of, well, actually, the amount of Jews are much larger because 0.99

00:41:20.780 the way that we classify Jews are way more liberal.

00:41:23.880 The Nazis did the exact same thing. 0.90

00:41:25.240 I'm saying the opposite.

00:41:26.060 They're less liberal.

00:41:26.840 No, the Nazis were more liberal in who they classified as Jewish, which is why you had. 0.88

00:41:33.520 You're proving my point.

00:41:34.300 No, I'm not proving your point.

00:41:35.620 Okay, let me explain.

00:41:36.280 No, let me make the point and then you can respond.

00:41:38.060 Okay, make your point.

00:41:38.120 You're not making sense.

00:41:38.960 Okay, I am making sense.

00:41:40.380 I'm going to.

00:41:40.780 Under Nazi German law, the Nazis would deport people to concentration camps. 0.98

00:41:44.560 They would kill them in gas chambers based on their classification of who is Jewish. 0.87

00:41:48.880 And according to their classification of Jewish, it was not the Jewish legal classification 0.98

00:41:53.100 of whether your mother is Jewish, which in our religion is the only determination.

00:41:56.840 Their classification was if your mother, your father, your grandmother, or your grandfather

00:42:02.080 on either side.

00:42:03.440 And if you take that number, it was roughly 16 million people.

00:42:07.600 Now, if we were to take the exact same classification and the exact same definition of you have a Jewish

00:42:13.920 grandmother, Jewish grandfather, Jewish mother, Jewish father, it is still less Jews today

00:42:19.460 than there were pre-World War II.

00:42:22.360 To be fair, it was 16 million before World War II and now it's 15.8 million.

00:42:25.520 So it's basically, it is less.

00:42:27.060 But isn't that remarkable?

00:42:27.820 Hang on, let me make the point.

00:42:29.100 Isn't that remarkable though, that even 80 years after the fact, we still have not been

00:42:34.080 able to repopulate after our genocide.

00:42:36.240 And the reason I think it's so remarkable is because Judaism, not because we're a supremacist,

00:42:40.080 but we just predate Islam and Christianity.

00:42:42.100 That's not a Jewish supremacist claim.

00:42:43.220 That's just a historical claim.

00:42:44.260 We predate Islam and we predate Christianity.

00:42:46.660 Yet, how many Muslims are there?

00:42:47.920 They're like 2 billion.

00:42:48.820 How many Christians are there?

00:42:49.900 Like 2 billion.

00:42:50.440 How many Jews are there?

00:42:51.520 Barely 16 million.

00:42:52.820 And in fact, the Jewish, the Hebrew Bible actually prophesies-

00:42:55.160 Let me respond to that point.

00:42:55.280 You're making loads of points again.

00:42:56.340 Let me respond to that specific point.

00:42:57.680 You're right.

00:42:58.260 So let me stop.

00:43:00.000 This is my point.

00:43:00.840 As you said quite correctly, during Nazi Germany, they were very liberal in the interpretation

00:43:05.420 of what a Jew is.

00:43:06.260 Therefore, when they're liberal, the numbers are going to be higher.

00:43:09.780 Now what's happened is when there's a lot of people who may have a Jewish grandfather,

00:43:13.920 may have a Jewish great grandfather, whatever it may be, they will not be categorized

00:43:19.080 as a Jewish person.

00:43:20.300 And an example of that is Alex Steinberg, I'm trying to explain to you.

00:43:22.480 So under Nazi Germany, he would be within the 15, 16 million.

00:43:26.380 So now you have a broader circle.

00:43:28.100 Therefore, more people fall into that circle.

00:43:29.860 Now you have a smaller circle.

00:43:31.400 Less people fall into that circle.

00:43:32.760 It's very precise.

00:43:33.760 So someone like him would not be under the data of Jews. 0.98

00:43:36.300 But in reality, he is.

00:43:37.700 And therefore, what I'm saying is there's a lot more than is being said.

00:43:40.760 But even then, I don't even know why we're-

00:43:42.000 But I agree to a side point, but I just demonstrated why that isn't true.

00:43:47.480 I'm saying even under the definition today, using the same Nazi classification of your

00:43:53.760 mother, father, grandmother, or grandfather, there are still less Jews using the exact same

00:43:57.540 definition, which is why you had people under Nazi Germany who said, I'm not Jewish.

00:44:01.420 I go to mass every single week.

00:44:03.060 Why are you sending me to Auschwitz?

00:44:04.400 And the Nazis said, no, you are Jewish.

00:44:05.960 So all I'm saying is if you use the exact same classification, there are still fewer Jews.

00:44:09.080 But I agree, it's a side point.

00:44:10.320 The real point I wanted to make, though, is it's not that there's a conspiracy.

00:44:14.660 I think this is where kind of the Twitterverse gets it wrong.

00:44:17.620 It's not that there's a global cabal of Jews who are secretly implanting themselves to control

00:44:22.120 the media, to control business, to control politics, to control finance.

00:44:25.280 It's Jews are very proud of the fact that we make sure from a very young age that young

00:44:29.740 people are aware that they must make something of themselves.

00:44:32.700 They should go out into the professional world and be successful.

00:44:35.640 And that doesn't mean we do it at the disadvantage of other people.

00:44:38.380 I'm telling you right now, let me look straight at the camera.

00:44:40.180 Young Muslims, young Christians, Americans, irrespective of your religion, you should

00:44:44.780 also look at Jewish people and say, wow, I also want to be very successful.

00:44:48.980 And I also want to have an education.

00:44:50.680 And I also want to be loyal to one country.

00:44:52.280 And that country is the United States of America.

00:44:54.260 So I hope and pray that Muslim imams are going to mosques every single week.

00:44:58.580 And they're not preaching about the superiority of Islam.

00:45:00.800 But instead, they're telling young people, you live in the greatest country on planet Earth.

00:45:04.580 Make something of yourself.

00:45:05.780 Because that's what I was taught every single day when we go to our synagogue and we pray

00:45:09.600 for the welfare of the United States of America.

00:45:11.060 We are told you have one allegiance.

00:45:13.500 That's the United States.

00:45:14.580 Make something of yourself in this country.

00:45:16.460 So just two points.

00:45:17.160 I don't think that Jews have one allegiance. 0.74

00:45:19.100 Which is not what they have.

00:45:19.800 I just told you, we pray every single day for the welfare of this country.

00:45:23.720 They have multiple allegiance.

00:45:24.700 That's why basically you've got Jews. 1.00

00:45:26.060 Like, for example. 0.99

00:45:26.860 As a Jewish person fucking named Shabbat Kestenbaum, this is the only country I have ever known. 0.99

00:45:31.820 I was born in this country. 0.99

00:45:32.940 Why do a lot of Jews serve the Israeli army?

00:45:36.080 For example, that's a foreign nation.

00:45:38.340 That's Jew allegiance. 0.90

00:45:39.660 That's a foreign army.

00:45:40.360 The second point, I just want to respond to the other point as well.

00:45:42.240 So in reality, you've got people who claim that American, even if you believe Israel is your

00:45:47.040 greatest ally, which obviously I don't.

00:45:48.280 But that being said, even if you believe it, how can you serve a foreign nation?

00:45:51.260 There could be scenarios where they don't have the same political position, the same geopolitical

00:45:55.480 position.

00:45:56.220 Allegedly, when the bombing of Qatar happened, as an example, Trump wasn't happy with it.

00:46:00.640 The Israelis did it. 1.00

00:46:01.380 That would be an example from a military perspective where they didn't have the same perspective.

00:46:04.860 And then you have these Americans, allegedly, who are serving the foreign country of Israel.

00:46:09.800 Jewel allegiance. 0.67

00:46:10.540 It means what happens if American, Israel disagree?

00:46:12.340 They're going to be fighting for the foreign nation.

00:46:14.120 We have, for example, Rabbi Shmouli, whose children basically fight in the-

00:46:17.440 First of all, don't call him Rabbi.

00:46:18.680 He's a bad representation.

00:46:19.840 We denounced him years ago.

00:46:21.600 No, but his children fight in the Israeli army.

00:46:23.160 I'm sure you don't denounce them.

00:46:24.500 Let me be clear.

00:46:25.300 They should be denounced as American citizens, renounce their citizenship in Israel. 1.00

00:46:29.820 I agree with you.

00:46:30.400 No, but your position is if you serve in the IDF, you should be denounced as a citizenship.

00:46:33.840 No, no, no.

00:46:34.460 I'm talking specifically about Shmouli.

00:46:35.880 Okay, so yeah, so this is a problem, but you should believe that.

00:46:38.260 And the second thing is in terms of, and let me just add your media point.

00:46:40.220 So in terms of media, the thing is, we can say that, yeah, everyone's got an opportunity.

00:46:45.520 And yes, we do.

00:46:46.160 I do believe in the United States of America, in the Western world, we all have an opportunity to succeed.

00:46:50.520 Look, we're examples of that.

00:46:51.580 I came from a very working class background from the UK, and I think I've done well, right? 0.97

00:46:55.460 And you've done well, and so has Bo.

00:46:57.080 So, of course, irrespective of religion, you do have a chance.

00:46:59.740 That being said, there is additional privileges that are situations that occur that help specifically Jewish people.

00:47:05.640 And I think Jewish Zionists, because I think when they're not Zionists, they have less of a chance. 0.99

00:47:08.500 And an example of that is, you look at TikTok, you mentioned about ByteDance, right?

00:47:12.580 And what happened?

00:47:14.680 Once Jonathan Greenblatt, from the left, found out there's a problem, he got a right-wing guy.

00:47:18.120 And this is why, when it comes left-wing, right-wing, they don't exist anymore when it comes to Zionists. 0.97

00:47:21.860 He got Larry Ellison, who basically is the biggest funder of the IDF, to basically take over TikTok.

00:47:27.040 He took over TikTok with David Horowitz.

00:47:28.860 David Horowitz is who is someone who also funds the IDF and also funds anti-Islam hatred.

00:47:33.400 And these people took over TikTok.

00:47:35.000 You saw in terms of X, X basically, again, X was a big platform which exposed a lot of the things that were happening in Israel.

00:47:42.780 What happened?

00:47:43.240 They got Elon Musk, they made him go to Israel, they made him go to the Horowitz tour.

00:47:48.060 And therefore, and that impacted the algorithm.

00:47:49.900 You have, for example, CBS, CBS taken over by Larry Ellison.

00:47:53.500 What does he do?

00:47:54.100 He brings Barry Weiss in.

00:47:55.280 Was Barry Weiss the most qualified person?

00:47:57.240 He paid $150 million for her free press.

00:48:00.280 Her free press, when you look at views, definitely doesn't substantiate the $150 million.

00:48:03.680 If they did, this guy should be paid $300 million based on views, right?

00:48:07.600 So, quite clearly, what is the reason she gave it?

00:48:09.780 Because Barry Weiss was Jewish.

00:48:11.120 She's almost the mouthpiece of Israel. 0.90

00:48:13.460 And therefore, they wanted that to propagate a lot of the propaganda.

00:48:15.880 And you see that with Iran now, where they're making a lot of the propaganda about the protests, about what happened in Iran.

00:48:19.940 A lot of it's coming from CBS News and those allies of Israel because they want to cause a color revolution in Iran, where the government... 0.63

00:48:26.680 And it's not worked because the people just do not agree with it.

00:48:30.260 And hence, why the government is still in power.

00:48:32.000 They were still in power after the 12-day war, which was a prime time where people were turned.

00:48:34.500 But they realized when the Israelis were bombing, these guys are external enemy. 0.71

00:48:37.220 And it's not worked now.

00:48:38.080 People are not with the position of the Zionists, where they want to take over America. 0.78

00:48:43.160 And in terms of America, look, Muslims love the United States of America.

00:48:46.380 For me, I travel a lot.

00:48:47.680 I think the United States of America is literally the best place, right?

00:48:50.320 I think the people of the United States of America are the best.

00:48:52.120 I just don't agree with some of the actions of the government.

00:48:54.260 And we can do that.

00:48:54.920 We can disagree.

00:48:55.600 I disagree with the actions I mentioned to you.

00:48:57.700 When I said the expansion of Islam, I disagree with that.

00:48:59.540 So we can disagree because we are political analysts.

00:49:02.140 We have, like, rational thought, rational ideas.

00:49:03.860 We're allowed to disagree, right?

00:49:05.040 But in terms of hate of America, no, I don't believe that Muslims hate America.

00:49:08.380 There may be some specific extreme Muslims who do, just like the specific extreme Jews who do. 0.53

00:49:12.420 You see on Twitter, these Jews who are doing sermons and talking about how we're going to subjugate the white man. 0.89

00:49:16.560 We're going to subjugate the Goyim. 1.00

00:49:17.600 We're going to subjugate the Gentile. 1.00

00:49:18.720 Well, of course, that happens.

00:49:19.860 But I'm saying overarchingly, disproportionately, Muslims, when they're, as you said, 2 billion or 1.6 billion,

00:49:26.580 you might find some extreme, if you look at per capita, that's a very small amount.

00:49:29.340 When you look at Israelis and you look at per capita, the amount who supported, for example,

00:49:34.160 the actions of the Israeli state in Israel and in the United States of America, 0.86

00:49:40.480 disproportionately, overwhelmingly, per capita, they do support, actually, murder and killing.

00:49:45.060 And that's what the problem is.

00:49:45.900 Do you know what I think about exactly 0% of the time is Zionism.

00:49:50.740 You know what I actually do think about?

00:49:52.640 This goal to, like, implement Sharia law all throughout the United States. 0.98

00:49:56.960 I mean, we have this, like, growing effort.

00:49:58.640 In Texas, we've seen it.

00:50:00.260 In fact, it's on the ballot March 3rd, when I'm on the ballot.

00:50:03.440 And it's this effort.

00:50:05.580 What's the ballot?

00:50:06.080 The primary election in Texas.

00:50:09.180 Oh, sorry, I thought you meant Sharia law.

00:50:10.060 It's March 3rd.

00:50:10.540 I was like, what?

00:50:10.920 It's on the ballot.

00:50:12.820 Governor Abbott is trying to ban it.

00:50:13.860 They have put on the ballot March 3rd an effort to ban the implementation of Sharia law in Texas

00:50:19.620 because we have entire, you know, Islamic communities that are popping up wanting to build enclaves 1.00

00:50:26.160 where they don't follow, you know, U.S. law.

00:50:29.280 They want to follow Sharia law. 0.81

00:50:30.420 Do you disagree with that?

00:50:31.300 Of course I disagree with that.

00:50:32.520 With only Muslims or all communities? 0.99

00:50:35.400 Sharia law is incompatible with our laws. 0.99

00:50:37.640 No, no, I'm saying.

00:50:38.240 And that culture is incompatible with our culture.

00:50:39.900 So I'm talking about when religions that aren't Christian create maybe enclaves where people 0.99

00:50:45.120 from that specific religion are in a specific area and maybe they follow their own practices

00:50:48.980 more than anything else.

00:50:50.180 Are you against that?

00:50:51.520 Or is it just Muslims you're against?

00:50:53.040 What I'm against is laws that are incompatible with U.S. law.

00:50:57.440 I am unaware of other communities that have laws that are incompatible with our constitution.

00:51:02.080 Like what?

00:51:02.360 But I am very familiar with the laws that are incompatible with our constitution within Sharia. 0.88

00:51:07.360 And by the way, this is not my opinion.

00:51:09.500 This is most people in Texas.

00:51:12.160 I talk to a lot of people.

00:51:13.380 You know, I'm running for office.

00:51:14.600 So this is something that is very worrisome.

00:51:18.220 And so this like notion that it's just it's no big deal.

00:51:22.440 And, you know, you're for America.

00:51:23.980 Yeah, I'm sure you're for America.

00:51:25.240 You love America because it's there's more money here than anywhere else in the world.

00:51:28.440 It is fertile ground.

00:51:29.600 The communists have been working on America for, you know, 60 or 70 years trying to strip

00:51:34.060 God and Christianity from our society, which, of course, makes it fertile ground for the 1.00

00:51:38.880 Islamists to come in and capture, you know, those people. 1.00

00:51:42.300 So that's what's happening.

00:51:43.820 And we're all waking up to it.

00:51:45.760 We have two elected officials in our state legislature in Texas who are, you know, from

00:51:49.880 Islamic backgrounds.

00:51:51.100 And what do they do?

00:51:52.400 Of course, they're not like singing patriotic songs about America.

00:51:56.340 They're pushing laws that glorify Islam in Texas. 0.89

00:52:00.820 Like what?

00:52:01.020 All kinds of, you know, recognitions.

00:52:04.500 And so I don't get it.

00:52:07.220 Well, I would say some aspects of Sharia law is good, like women not driving. 1.00

00:52:11.220 That's not in Sharia, but if it was, it would be good. 1.00

00:52:13.620 Well, the only countries that forbade women from driving were, of course, Muslim-majority 1.00

00:52:18.520 countries.

00:52:18.900 Saudi Arabia just gave them the right to drive like 10 years ago.

00:52:22.420 So in terms of what you said, the thing is, if, why I asked about the enclave question

00:52:37.380 and I think you struggled to answer the question is because what you're basically demonstrating

00:52:41.800 is your single-minded focus isn't consistency.

00:52:45.260 Because if you were consistent, I would respect that.

00:52:46.820 I'd be like, look, this makes sense.

00:52:47.900 He's been consistent across the board.

00:52:49.180 But what you're basically single-minded focus on Islam, probably because it may help with

00:52:53.980 your political career.

00:52:54.880 Because in reality, when you look at it, for example, Tyler something, whatever his name

00:52:58.920 is, podcaster, he just came out with a documentary.

00:53:01.660 Tyler Olivera, who came out with a documentary in New York, where the Hasidic community, 99.9%

00:53:07.620 kind of have an enclave.

00:53:09.100 And by the way, I don't like have any issues with this.

00:53:11.000 Like, you know, if someone wants to practice a religion, I've got no problem with it.

00:53:14.140 But my point is they practice their own religion.

00:53:15.900 They have like, is it 10, 11 children?

00:53:17.660 They forget a lot of welfare.

00:53:19.560 They practice the, for example, strict Judaism. 0.57

00:53:22.120 And apparently, if you're not according to his documentary, again, we need to verify this.

00:53:25.140 I'll respond.

00:53:26.000 No, because a lot of times, like I said, there is like misinformation.

00:53:29.100 I don't know if there is on this one.

00:53:30.220 But what he said is that it's even very difficult for white Christians or white people to even

00:53:33.820 get accommodation for rent in that place.

00:53:36.260 So that demonstrates an enclave.

00:53:37.400 So what demonstrates that lack of consistency when he said that.

00:53:39.820 The second thing is Sharia law has not come into the United States of America.

00:53:42.320 And this is why I asked the question, because you weren't able to basically demonstrate how

00:53:46.800 it was, because there's no instance where Sharia law has overtaken the United States of America. 0.88

00:53:51.200 The Constitution supersedes.

00:53:52.580 Actually, there was in one incident where, but obviously probably not an issue for you

00:53:56.400 because you're single focused.

00:53:57.560 But there was one issue where there was one religious law that overtook the legal ruling

00:54:03.040 of the United States of America.

00:54:04.260 You know what that was?

00:54:05.060 That was Halakar law, which was basically there was a case.

00:54:08.460 I believe it was called evictus versus evictus or victim versus victim.

00:54:11.240 I can't remember exactly.

00:54:12.120 And what it was is there was a judgment made within the Jewish courts, same as the Sharia 0.55

00:54:17.420 courts.

00:54:18.600 And what happened was that ruling, whatever the decision was made, that superseded whatever

00:54:22.460 the court had decided.

00:54:23.780 And so they took that on board.

00:54:24.700 So that's the only instance in the United States of America when that's happened.

00:54:27.460 So this claim that Sharia law is taken over, again, is propaganda, because where is this

00:54:31.380 happening?

00:54:31.960 Now, is this city...

00:54:32.800 I didn't say it was taking over.

00:54:34.100 What I said is that they are trying to implement Sharia law in Muslim-only enclaves. 0.99

00:54:39.360 And like I said, at the very beginning...

00:54:41.560 Well, okay, Epic...

00:54:42.420 They're building a thing called Epic City.

00:54:44.060 What's the Sharia law in here?

00:54:44.940 That's what I'm trying to ask.

00:54:45.500 Well, they're saying...

00:54:46.180 No, I understand about Epic.

00:54:46.660 They're trying to create an enclave or a community.

00:54:48.640 Correct.

00:54:49.060 A Muslim-only Sharia-compliant community.

00:54:51.760 I mean, they have stated that is their goal.

00:54:53.620 And what's the Sharia part of it that conflicts with the...

00:54:56.860 What they're trying to implement?

00:54:58.280 What part of the Sharia are they trying to implement that conflicts with US law?

00:55:02.720 This is what I'm asking.

00:55:03.320 I genuinely don't know.

00:55:03.940 I think all Sharia is incompatible with US law. 1.00

00:55:07.380 So, all Sharia. 1.00

00:55:09.140 So, for example, marriage.

00:55:12.940 Husband and wife getting married.

00:55:14.180 That's against Sharia law.

00:55:14.900 Or, for example, praying to God.

00:55:16.280 Do you believe that?

00:55:17.120 That's against Sharia law.

00:55:17.840 The thing is, Sharia law...

00:55:19.580 Well, does Sharia law mandate that you pray to God?

00:55:21.400 Because our Constitution does not mandate that you pray to God.

00:55:23.640 No.

00:55:24.080 So, Sharia law is just like Christianity, right? 0.97

00:55:27.300 So, you can pray, and you cannot pray.

00:55:29.600 And if you don't pray, obviously, Muslims, Jews, and Christians believe that.

00:55:32.100 If you're not praying to God, you're going to be sinful, you know, whatever it may be.

00:55:35.580 And so, what is Sharia law?

00:55:36.880 Sharia law, largely speaking, what is it?

00:55:38.760 It's practicing, right?

00:55:39.640 You'll pray.

00:55:40.200 You'll fast.

00:55:41.160 He mentioned...

00:55:41.920 Shabbat mentioned that he fasts almost every day or something or every other day.

00:55:45.080 And so, you may be...

00:55:46.280 You're welcome to join me.

00:55:47.560 No, Muslims do it as well, right?

00:55:48.720 They do it like 30 days in a year.

00:55:50.940 And some do it.

00:55:51.880 If they're morally just, they'll do it twice a week or whatever it may be.

00:55:54.360 Now, you would say...

00:55:55.040 That's probably something I could get on board with.

00:55:56.740 I probably need to eat less.

00:55:57.780 Oh, okay.

00:55:58.260 So, now you're saying you'd get on board with Sharia law.

00:56:00.160 So, now you've convinced him you want Sharia law.

00:56:02.360 Okay.

00:56:03.020 Can I respond to you?

00:56:04.440 Okay.

00:56:05.240 I get the point you're making, but you're confusing two very separate court systems in

00:56:08.640 the United States.

00:56:09.300 One is voluntary participation in religious councils.

00:56:11.780 But we've had that really since the 1700s.

00:56:13.920 So, we have Catholic tribunals.

00:56:15.320 We have what you're referring to.

00:56:16.300 It's not halakha.

00:56:16.840 It's called halakha. 0.66

00:56:17.460 It's a bastin.

00:56:18.540 But those are...

00:56:19.120 It's called a bastin.

00:56:20.420 No, but what's the...

00:56:21.520 Oh, halakha. 0.98

00:56:22.420 Halakha. 0.95

00:56:22.780 I didn't do the ha.

00:56:24.620 Yeah, exactly.

00:56:26.300 Ha.

00:56:27.340 Once you circumcise, you automatically gain the ability to say ha.

00:56:31.320 So, halakha is Jewish law.

00:56:33.000 But again, we've had voluntary participation in religious councils, again, since the 1700s.

00:56:37.600 I think we've actually had them since before these towers in the United States.

00:56:40.440 But that's very, very different than what you were talking about.

00:56:43.040 So, again, you have Catholic tribunals.

00:56:44.600 You have in Jewish laws called a bastin.

00:56:46.520 And you do have Islamic councils as well.

00:56:48.480 To be fair, though, we both know that is very different than Sharia law.

00:56:50.980 But I digress.

00:56:51.500 In terms of what you're referring to of this video of Curious Joel.

00:56:56.360 Curious Joel is an incorporated city.

00:56:57.860 It's part of Monroe County.

00:56:59.320 Yes, it's true.

00:57:00.040 There's a high concentration of Orthodox Jews there.

00:57:02.300 It's also true that white Christians also live there.

00:57:04.520 I've been to Curious Joel many times.

00:57:05.620 You will find white Christians who live there as well.

00:57:07.320 And I also have to say, and this might be a hot take, I'm forgetting his name.

00:57:09.860 But the guy who wants to build a white Christian city in the middle of nowhere, Arkansas. 0.66

00:57:14.680 Arvel.

00:57:15.580 Sure, whatever his name is.

00:57:16.560 That should absolutely be allowed.

00:57:17.860 I think in the United States, we do build ourselves around voluntary participation.

00:57:20.980 People should live in communities where they subscribe to the same values.

00:57:23.880 Absolutely.

00:57:24.460 But he's got a problem with this.

00:57:25.520 Well, Beau is a very smart man.

00:57:27.420 And he can talk about his own opinions and defend them to himself.

00:57:29.340 I think he's only got a problem with one religion.

00:57:29.760 Okay, but I'm talking about me and I can only defend my opinions.

00:57:33.540 In terms of what's happening, though, is you're trying to conflate what Nick Shirley did in Minneapolis with what this podcaster did in Curious Joel.

00:57:39.480 I believe that we need to reform the welfare system in the United States.

00:57:42.380 The fact of the matter is we obsess about foreign aid to Israel, for example, yet foreign aid comprises less than 1% of what the federal government spends every single year.

00:57:49.080 What is a way bigger issue is how much we're spending on the military, which Trump now wants to spend $1.5 trillion.

00:57:53.960 What is a way bigger issue is our entitlement program, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid.

00:57:57.380 So I agree.

00:57:58.180 If you want to have a conversation on welfare, let's have the conversation.

00:58:00.640 What you can't do, though, is conflate actual fraud where a Somali community in Minneapolis, like 90% of whom are on welfare and are also committing violations of federal law because they won't assimilate into a greater culture, 0.86

00:58:11.780 and then a Hasidic community in New York who are simply legally using the legal tools at their disposal about using welfare. 0.74

00:58:18.660 And again, welfare should be reformed.

00:58:20.920 We should not have as many people on government handouts as we do today.

00:58:24.020 But again, let's call a spade a spade.

00:58:25.520 If you want to talk about Jewish participation in American life, Jews have a living- 1.00

00:58:29.040 Let me just respond to that point.

00:58:29.660 Sure.

00:58:30.040 Okay.

00:58:30.360 So just on that, I think you make a fair point.

00:58:32.720 But in terms of where the, what you call it again, where the fraud is, is in New York, not this ultra-Orthodox community, but in New York, I did the research.

00:58:41.120 There's a large number of Orthodox Jews who basically committed billions of dollars of fraud. 1.00

00:58:45.560 Now, the reason why that's not been highlighted is specifically because in the United States of America, because media, because social media, because it's pushed through the algorithm,

00:58:53.760 there's a specific direct focus on Islam.

00:58:56.260 So therefore, I would say, irrespective of where the fraud is, whether it's Minneapolis, which I need to look at it, because I know some of them points that Nick Shirley made, they got debunked.

00:59:06.520 But I need to look at all of it, because I've not been through each individual point.

00:59:08.980 But also, why is there that, I'm not talking about the Hasidic community.

00:59:11.980 I'm talking specifically, even in New York, there was billions of dollars of fraud.

00:59:14.860 But why is that not being highlighted? 0.89

00:59:15.820 The reason it's not being highlighted is specifically because there is this specific focus, per what the Israeli foreign ministry said, focus on Islam, hate Muslims, attack them.

00:59:25.740 And that's why there's this direction.

00:59:26.460 Let me make one point, Shabbat Salah, let you go. 0.96

00:59:28.500 You know, and I actually wrote this down, you know, I think a lot of this comes down to social engineering, where they have to pit us against each other.

00:59:34.440 And the reason why I say this is because, like, Shabbat, I know you'll probably say, like, Dave Smith is, like, a horrible person, or, like, Nick Fuentes, this and that.

00:59:41.460 But at the same exact time, you look at our history, after World War II, we had Operation Paperclip that brought actual Nazis over.

00:59:47.600 I mean, literal Nazis, like Wernher von Braun, who, you know, built rockets that killed people in Poland.

00:59:52.540 So I just find it crazy how – and then I look at part of the social engineering.

00:59:57.400 You look at how we left Afghanistan and we left the Taliban.

01:00:00.260 You know, they say we're the biggest threat, but then we leave them with, like, a billion dollars worth of military equipment.

01:00:03.680 So my point is, really, at the end of the day, the government doesn't really care about us.

01:00:08.040 I think that they're pitting us against each other.

01:00:09.540 And I guess –

01:00:10.840 Oh, I agree with that, yeah.

01:00:11.360 And that's why, really and truly, you guys probably wouldn't dislike each other that much.

01:00:16.160 You guys probably actually have a lot more in common than you think.

01:00:18.660 But we're socially engineered to hate one another.

01:00:21.480 And we both have – you know, there's some aspects of Judaism that, you know, people can be critical of, and maybe it's fair. 0.99

01:00:26.460 And there's aspects of Islam that people can be critical, and that's fair. 1.00

01:00:29.000 And so what that does is that makes us fight, and that's what they want us to do.

01:00:32.140 So how do we, I guess, bring world peace or come together?

01:00:35.000 I agree with you.

01:00:36.240 I think that the government wants to do left, we, right, black, we, right, Muslim versus Christian, maybe Jews against everybody else, wherever it may be.

01:00:45.740 And I think that's –

01:00:46.200 Jews versus everybody. 0.99

01:00:47.100 Jews versus world. 0.98

01:00:47.960 Yeah, Jews versus world. 0.99

01:00:49.400 It's true.

01:00:50.300 It's working.

01:00:51.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:52.500 They're running things.

01:00:53.920 But anyway, coming back to – and I think that's done intentionally.

01:00:56.480 In order to cause division, I agree with you, amongst the working class while the government continues to enrich itself. 1.00

01:01:01.360 For example, you look at the economy, the stock market is being increased, so the wealth get wealthier, the dollar is being weakened, the poor get poor.

01:01:08.420 So I think – I agree with you.

01:01:09.320 I think that's happening intentionally.

01:01:10.340 I do think some of it is that they want to create this kind of Palantir control system in place, which, again, look at who's in charge of Palantir.

01:01:18.940 But this Palantir control system in place, social credit score in place, and almost take the West down the route of these other countries that we just don't want. 1.00

01:01:25.960 Well, we've been battling communism and socialism for a long time here in America.

01:01:30.000 That is certainly a growing thing.

01:01:31.620 Is Palantir a problem?

01:01:33.080 Probably not.

01:01:33.820 I mean they're very focused on military technology.

01:01:36.660 Yeah, but the military technology gets used on us.

01:01:38.780 I mean –

01:01:39.500 Well, Palantir is also –

01:01:40.440 It is –

01:01:41.020 And making sure that ICE is able to do their job.

01:01:42.840 That's what they say too, but also the next time we have a pandemic, it's going to be used to shut us down and take our credit cards off the system so we can't buy stuff.

01:01:48.920 So many of the –

01:01:49.620 But that's a federal issue, less about an American company.

01:01:54.960 And, again, the solution to that is because we live in a capitalist society, build a bear company. 0.71

01:01:59.020 And that's kind of like my solution when it comes to, well, Jews have so much control of the media, which I disagree with. 0.99

01:02:02.820 But, B, if you really believe that's true –

01:02:03.460 I thought you said you agreed with it.

01:02:04.440 No, I say Jews have a disproportionate amount of power in the media, but they don't control the media.

01:02:08.000 No one controls the media because as your podcast demonstrates right now or as Elon Musk said, we are the media.

01:02:12.900 Anyone can do it.

01:02:13.520 This is why I kind of get frustrated with Nick Fuentes and this demoralization of young people is because if you constantly tell people that the Jews control Hollywood or the Zionists, whatever word you want to use that day, then, A, it's not true, but B, more fundamentally, then build something.

01:02:28.540 And I'm not talking about – when I said this before, a lot of the neo-Nazis on Twitter attacked me because they said, oh, he's attacking white Americans.

01:02:33.920 I didn't say the word white American.

01:02:35.000 I just said any American. 0.90

01:02:35.940 If you truly believe that, like, I don't know, Disney is out to make your kids gay, which, sure, then build your own media company.

01:02:42.740 And I mean that seriously, like build an entertainment industry because that's what America is all about.

01:02:47.120 It's about private enterprise.

01:02:48.120 It's about competition.

01:02:49.000 I do want to say very quickly to Alex's question.

01:02:50.340 I agree that people do do that, though.

01:02:51.260 They do try and create their own media.

01:02:52.740 But as you know, there's a lot more barriers if you're not Zionist than you are Zionist. 0.62

01:02:56.540 It's a lot more difficult.

01:02:58.060 No, there are barriers.

01:02:59.460 I'll give you my example, right?

01:03:00.420 No, no, no.

01:03:00.640 Let me just make the point because you interrupted.

01:03:01.940 Let me make the point because you interrupted.

01:03:03.240 There are barriers, but that pertains to regulation.

01:03:06.020 That pertains to an environment of government bureaucracy.

01:03:08.760 So I agree we should get rid of red tape.

01:03:10.080 We should get rid of regulation.

01:03:10.820 That's why I'm a American analyst.

01:03:11.780 I mean, there is no law on the book.

01:03:15.340 There is no policy that states if you are a Zionist or you're not a Zionist, then you

01:03:18.300 don't have equal rights into a particular profession, which is why you hate speech laws that you

01:03:23.000 cannot critique.

01:03:24.000 I'm on X, right?

01:03:24.740 That's not true.

01:03:25.460 So let me give you an example.

01:03:26.460 I'm on X.

01:03:27.180 I'm quite a big account on X.

01:03:28.860 I was super viral in 2024.

01:03:30.960 If I hadn't been de-boosted, if I hadn't had my blue check mark taken away because of

01:03:34.640 my political opinion, I would be like two times bigger, right?

01:03:38.360 So even though I've got three quarters of a million, that's an example of de-boosting.

01:03:40.960 So me and Laura Loomer, as an example, held the same exact same opinion, right?

01:03:45.240 We relayed the same idea on the same issue.

01:03:47.680 But she got her blue check mark back and her monetization specifically because she's a

01:03:52.940 Jewish Zionist.

01:03:54.120 And so therefore, no, that is the case.

01:03:55.360 So how do you explain Jewish Zionists like myself who were also banned from X?

01:03:58.140 I agree with you.

01:03:58.820 You're banned from X.

01:03:59.480 Very briefly.

01:04:00.300 I agree that private corporations have a right to do whatever they would like on their private

01:04:03.420 corporation.

01:04:03.960 And oftentimes, it's pretty arbitrary.

01:04:05.320 So I would agree with you on that.

01:04:06.960 But if you really want to make the point that if you go on social media, it's pro-Zionist.

01:04:10.000 I mean, come on.

01:04:11.060 Between you and me.

01:04:11.960 In fact, one of the most viral clips of the last few days was a spliced up video of me

01:04:16.020 saying that anti-Semites should be jailed for not liking Jews, which A, I didn't say.

01:04:19.640 Are you not going to get me arrested after this?

01:04:20.680 Right, exactly.

01:04:21.540 Which A, I didn't say.

01:04:22.520 B, I don't believe in.

01:04:23.600 And C, let's call a spade a spade.

01:04:25.400 Being anti-Israel is the most popular thing you could possibly do if you're finding a name

01:04:29.680 for yourself.

01:04:30.460 Have you not listened to Candace Owens recently or Tucker Carlson?

01:04:33.300 All they talk about is Israel.

01:04:34.480 He's right.

01:04:34.840 Being anti-Israel is the most popular position because the world is against Israel.

01:04:38.380 They're just seeing what they saw in their time.

01:04:40.000 I agree with you.

01:04:40.720 The world is against Israel.

01:04:41.780 But that kind of refutes your claim, though, that it's in it for the Zionists.

01:04:44.560 Because if you want to make money on Twitter or on social media, the best thing you could

01:04:48.320 do is just talk about how the Jews or the Zionists, sorry, how the Zionists control media.

01:04:51.820 That's not true, though.

01:04:52.360 That's not true.

01:04:52.800 You just admitted it's true.

01:04:54.000 No, you're missing two points.

01:04:54.840 There's two things.

01:04:55.860 The world is against Israel.

01:04:57.440 The world is against Zionists, right? 1.00

01:04:59.780 And therefore, what will happen is numerically, there are people against it.

01:05:03.640 But if you look at the people in power and those who control the algorithm, they've been

01:05:07.680 able to take control of it.

01:05:08.640 Like, for example, I mentioned on TikTok or various others, they're able to control the

01:05:11.960 algorithm.

01:05:12.340 Elon Musk controls the algorithm.

01:05:14.320 I know.

01:05:14.900 And Elon Musk is a Zionist. 0.98

01:05:16.840 That is a profound accusation against one of the most freedom fighters of free speech

01:05:21.940 in our country to say that he's in the pockets of the Zionists. 0.94

01:05:24.280 He literally said it himself that he's a Zionist.

01:05:26.060 And so in terms of the point, so in reality and in terms of payments, yeah.

01:05:29.840 So, for example, someone like me will financially have to make sacrifices in order to hold the

01:05:34.380 position I did.

01:05:34.860 If you have the pro-Israel position, not just the $7,000, not just the algorithm booth, but

01:05:38.580 there's a lot of additional benefits you get by being pro-Zionist.

01:05:41.640 So that's the concept I'm saying, not in terms of numerically.

01:05:44.220 Of course, numerically, the world is against what Israel has done. 0.74

01:05:46.640 Humans are like, you know, humans have humanity.

01:05:49.540 Okay.

01:05:50.040 Disagree with that last point, but that wasn't the main point you were making.

01:05:53.500 Yeah, I think you said to give me the dig on Israel.

01:05:55.520 I'd like to go back to something you said a second ago.

01:05:57.300 You said that I'm singularly focused on Islam because I just don't like Muslims or something.

01:06:01.780 But actually, it's not the people, as I said before.

01:06:04.420 I am pro-America, okay?

01:06:06.680 I love America.

01:06:07.840 I love what we stand for.

01:06:08.880 I love our culture.

01:06:09.780 And what I've witnessed over my lifetime is a degradation of our culture because we've

01:06:14.180 imported people from other, you know, third world countries or whatever you want to call

01:06:18.060 it, who have a very different view of what the human experience is like.

01:06:22.980 And so, yes, Islam, I see, is a problem because the people who are coming in and bringing Islam, 1.00

01:06:29.100 and it seems like there is a track record of what they've done in other countries in 0.78

01:06:33.020 the past.

01:06:33.620 But I'm also, like, the fraud thing in Minnesota, huge problem.

01:06:37.760 I think most taxpayers disagree with that.

01:06:40.180 But they're not the only ones doing it.

01:06:42.420 Look in Texas at the H-1B problem.

01:06:44.900 Okay.

01:06:45.100 This, you know, a lot of Indians.

01:06:47.160 I know it's not Islam. 1.00

01:06:48.020 But, like, it's not, I'm against all of it, right?

01:06:50.320 Because I see, I see is, like, these communities of people who come in and they don't assimilate.

01:06:55.480 And look, if you bring in a couple here and there, they usually assimilate.

01:06:59.180 Well, what's assimilation to you?

01:07:00.520 Like, he's wearing a kippah. 0.60

01:07:01.520 Is that assimilation?

01:07:02.080 That's not, that's not the problem.

01:07:02.980 Well, I can answer that.

01:07:03.680 Hang on.

01:07:04.140 The problem is, is when you get these communities of people who come in who reject what it is

01:07:10.000 to be American, who reject our values. 0.79

01:07:12.100 Like what?

01:07:12.400 And they, well, like the High Trust Society, for instance, or, you know, law and order,

01:07:18.220 or not defrauding the government and, you know, pocketing as much as you can, not having,

01:07:22.440 you know, 100 H-1Bs registered at one fake business at some, you know, someone's house.

01:07:28.280 I mean, like, there is these, the fraudulent, and I'm not saying Americans are immune to fraud.

01:07:33.180 I think this is probably, you know, a bigger problem within the Democrat Party.

01:07:35.980 But, but when you have rampant fraud, I mean, there are estimates that, you know, at least

01:07:40.640 half a trillion dollars a year is spent on fraud.

01:07:44.680 I think most taxpayers, I'm a taxpayer.

01:07:47.480 I mean, that's a problem for me.

01:07:48.900 So what I want is a society and a culture that values our history, that values, you know,

01:07:54.920 our constitution, that values, you know, the people who made this country great, the values

01:08:00.320 of, you know, family and faith, those things are what I care about.

01:08:05.640 And what I don't want to see is, you know, entire neighborhoods taken over that don't

01:08:09.940 look like America anymore.

01:08:11.600 I want to make this one point, though, Beau.

01:08:14.020 Cultural, a cultural look. 0.60

01:08:15.880 But I would argue this, Islam has a lot of conservative viewpoints.

01:08:19.700 I mean, I mean, it's kind of a conservative viewpoints.

01:08:20.920 I know, which is why some Republicans have said we need the Muslim vote.

01:08:23.380 I disagree with that.

01:08:24.520 So the other issue you've got is when you, and this is why I want people to be precise,

01:08:28.160 because I always feel like there's a lot of these are talking points.

01:08:30.800 So when you say that there's no assimilation or it goes against American values, I want 0.99

01:08:34.600 to know specifically what those values are.

01:08:35.840 I'll give you a specific example.

01:08:36.380 I would say that, for example, Jude, I wouldn't say Jews, but Zionists, Jewish Zionists. 0.80

01:08:40.880 They basically, no, because, yeah, there is a distinction, right?

01:08:46.200 And so they specifically, I would say they've gone against American values.

01:08:49.840 If you look at the specific attack on the First Amendment, you look at the specific

01:08:52.900 attack on free speech, you look at the specific attack on what I think makes America

01:08:56.020 great, like what makes America uniquely better than any other country having traveled a lot

01:09:00.220 of countries and not been from here is the First Amendment.

01:09:02.380 It's the fact that you have free speech.

01:09:03.860 And so I would say that's the people in it.

01:09:06.400 Yeah, of course.

01:09:06.860 But the people are made by the Constitution regularly.

01:09:09.100 Yeah, but you can't just show up here.

01:09:10.580 And I don't think you can just show up here and be like, I'm American.

01:09:13.380 Like, no, there is, there is, there is, there is.

01:09:15.820 What's your response about the attack on the First Amendment?

01:09:17.880 I'm sorry.

01:09:18.120 Hang on.

01:09:18.380 Why are you pointing at me for the attack on the First Amendment?

01:09:20.920 Let me, let me redeem myself.

01:09:22.600 Okay.

01:09:22.860 First of all, let me be absolutely clear.

01:09:25.720 Shabbos, don't get me put in jail, bro.

01:09:27.560 Please.

01:09:27.940 There should not be, and there aren't, hate speech laws that by itself would incriminate

01:09:34.380 you or sentence you to jail.

01:09:36.040 Number one, those laws currently don't exist.

01:09:37.760 And number two, they should not exist.

01:09:39.840 Yeah. 1.00

01:09:40.120 Let me be absolutely clear because the idiots on Twitter spliced what I said. 1.00

01:09:43.700 You have a right in this country to hate Jews as much as you would like, hate Muslims 1.00

01:09:48.040 as much as you would like, hate Christians as much as you would like. 1.00

01:09:50.300 You have a right in this country to be anti-Semitic, to be a racist, to be a homo, whatever you 1.00

01:09:54.380 want, you have that right. 1.00

01:09:55.560 The point I was making, and again, it bothers me because the idiots on Twitter spliced it 1.00

01:09:59.180 up because the Groyper audience are too low IQ to actually listen to a full 90 second. 1.00

01:10:03.000 Don't hit the Groypers. 0.99

01:10:03.640 Sorry, I know.

01:10:04.100 Groypers are the G's. 1.00

01:10:04.740 Listen, they're coming after me anyway.

01:10:06.440 I might as well just get it out there.

01:10:07.500 What bothers me is we have primarily far left politicians who in 2017, for example, there

01:10:13.140 were a couple of teenagers who defaced an historically black church.

01:10:16.200 They wrote, you know, white power.

01:10:17.380 They wrote something on the KKK and they defaced the building.

01:10:20.380 Obviously they vandalized and trespassed private property. 0.99

01:10:22.620 And the judge said, so long as you go to a fucking Holocaust museum and so long as you 0.98

01:10:27.320 write a book report on like the evils of racism, we won't sentence you to prison. 0.99

01:10:31.080 And the point I was making is that is bullshit because the only way to combat crime, not speech, 0.93

01:10:36.740 not thoughts, but actions, the violation of law is sending people to prison. 0.97

01:10:41.560 I believe in incarceration over education.

01:10:43.920 That's the point I am making.

01:10:45.080 Didn't you say in there that basically it's not a good idea to send them to a Holocaust 0.87

01:10:49.120 museum because they might get bad ideas.

01:10:51.420 Yeah, I mean, I'm making a comedic joke.

01:10:52.960 So do you think a white guy is going to go to the Holocaust museum and say, I'm going to put

01:10:55.740 shambles in the chamber? 0.97

01:10:57.000 No, the joke I was making is like, if you believe all Jews should be sent to the gas chambers

01:11:00.740 and then you're forced to go to a museum where they say, hey, all these Jews were being sent

01:11:03.920 to gas chambers, he's going to say like, oh, right on.

01:11:06.260 You're not going to convert him to say, oh, I feel bad for the Jews.

01:11:08.600 So it was more of a joke.

01:11:09.200 Maybe work with Musk.

01:11:10.360 Right, maybe.

01:11:11.540 I think would be a way more effective arsenal and our toolkit is just sending

01:11:15.020 them to jail because that actually is an incentive.

01:11:16.960 To the point, though, about what you're making.

01:11:18.480 In 2018, Muhammad Irsan, I believe was his last name.

01:11:22.360 He was sentenced to death by the Texas Supreme Court because he killed his son-in-law.

01:11:26.840 Why did he kill his son-in-law?

01:11:28.260 Because in his mind, his son-in-law, who was a Christian, converted his daughter, who was

01:11:32.660 a Muslim, to Christianity.

01:11:34.380 There is no other, and again, this is not a theological debate.

01:11:37.000 The Quran, I'm sure, doesn't say to do this.

01:11:38.680 Maybe it does.

01:11:39.240 I don't know.

01:11:39.740 I don't care.

01:11:40.420 But there is only one group in the United States who will actually kill their own kids if 0.94

01:11:44.940 they convert to a different religion. 0.95

01:11:46.660 And I'm like, newsflash, it's not the Jews. 0.99

01:11:48.920 As much as you think, you know, we love genocide and hate Palestinians and we are subservient 0.95

01:11:52.240 to Israel, so let's call a spade a spade. 0.97

01:11:54.040 Are that, is that all Muslims?

01:11:55.520 Absolutely not.

01:11:56.320 But I don't care about all Muslims. 1.00

01:11:57.860 I don't care about the peaceful Muslims. 1.00

01:11:59.280 In the same way, I don't care about peaceful white people. 0.95

01:12:01.600 I don't care about peaceful black people. 1.00

01:12:02.940 I care about the non-peaceful white people and the non-peaceful black people and the non-peaceful 1.00

01:12:07.680 Muslim people who want to kill me and want to take away my way of life. 1.00

01:12:10.580 And when you mentioned this was my last point, then I'll let you respond. 0.99

01:12:12.760 When you talk about what does assimilation mean, I'm actually glad you asked that because 0.99

01:12:15.620 it's actually a really good question.

01:12:16.640 What does it mean to assimilate into American culture?

01:12:18.980 Jews have been living in the United States before it was the United States.

01:12:21.680 We first got here in roughly 16, in the 1630s.

01:12:24.580 It might've been a couple of years before that as well.

01:12:26.060 But it was Christians who built her. 0.98

01:12:26.620 Like you could say Muslims are here. 1.00

01:12:27.480 A hundred percent.

01:12:27.720 I concede that point.

01:12:29.100 This is a Christian country.

01:12:30.760 Christian, this is a Christian country.

01:12:32.540 And it is a very good thing that the Department of Homeland Security, for example, on their Twitter

01:12:35.680 account doesn't say happy holidays, but they say Merry Christmas.

01:12:38.620 And they talk about Jesus as the Lord and Savior.

01:12:39.940 That's a very, very good thing.

01:12:41.300 Now, in 1790, President George Washington writes a letter to the largest Jewish community

01:12:45.660 in the United States at the time, to the Jewish community of Newport, Rhode Island.

01:12:48.220 And in this letter, and by the way, the synagogue still exists.

01:12:50.340 It's the Toro Synagogue.

01:12:51.100 You can go there.

01:12:51.760 And in this letter, he says, quote, bigotry will be granted no sanction and persecution

01:12:56.040 no assistance.

01:12:57.000 And he tells the Jews, we want you to come into the United States and practice your Abrahamic 0.91

01:13:01.520 belief as children of Abraham.

01:13:03.040 And we want this to be a pluralistic and religiously tolerant society so long as you adapt to American

01:13:08.740 values, which is why Americans, you mentioned Jewish power post-World War II, which is interesting

01:13:14.120 because Americans, American Jews in particular, it's true.

01:13:17.540 I wouldn't say we built the country because there weren't that many of us, but in every

01:13:20.460 facet of American life, we've been part of it.

01:13:22.240 Robert Oppenheimer, which great Christopher Nolan movie, he was Jewish. 0.98

01:13:26.000 Albert Einstein, he was Jewish.

01:13:27.240 Like Jews were very proud of the fact that we've contributed to American life.

01:13:30.060 And Muslims should also do the same thing and Christians should do the exact same thing,

01:13:33.580 although Christians obviously have been doing that for hundreds of years.

01:13:35.840 My problem, though, is the minority of the Muslim American community. 1.00

01:13:39.660 Let's look at Somalia, for example, the overwhelming majority of whom are on welfare, a significant 0.94

01:13:43.860 amount are committing welfare fraud, and 70%, even after living here for more than 10 years,

01:13:48.220 can't speak English.

01:13:49.620 That is a profound problem.

01:13:51.000 And it has nothing to do with Islam as a theology, but it has everything to do with how

01:13:54.900 Islam is being practiced as a religion.

01:13:57.180 Absolutely.

01:13:57.560 Okay, so when you've given the example of Somalia, that's not proven that the practices

01:14:03.660 are due to Islam.

01:14:04.660 That's a specific community that's come from a war-torn area, a country that basically has

01:14:09.400 been-

01:14:10.560 So talk about the Dallas example.

01:14:11.840 Being a pirate is not an Islamic thing. 0.94

01:14:14.100 Yeah, being in a country-

01:14:15.560 Well, it is.

01:14:15.920 The Barbary Wars was piracy, but I digress.

01:14:18.480 So talk about the example in Dallas of a Muslim man who was sentenced to death for killing

01:14:22.320 his-

01:14:22.560 If you can point to any other religion that's doing that, I'm sure.

01:14:24.620 Doesn't the Hebrew Bible say that if you say you're a false prophet, they should be put 0.88

01:14:27.740 to death? 0.95

01:14:28.040 Absolutely not.

01:14:28.720 And by the way, even if that's the case, can you point to me in the last 500 years of

01:14:32.560 American history where a single Jew has done that? 0.88

01:14:34.340 No, but I mean-

01:14:35.000 No, but you can-

01:14:35.720 But the point is-

01:14:36.800 Deuteronomy, 1820, it does say to do that.

01:14:38.200 Yeah, and if you look at the religion, when you look at the religion-

01:14:41.220 Which I'm specifically saying it's not a religious debate.

01:14:43.220 I don't care what you believe in.

01:14:44.440 But that's the first thing.

01:14:45.600 If you look at the Torah, it happens. 0.95

01:14:46.280 But the thing is, this is the problem I'm trying to say.

01:14:47.560 Like, you look at one isolated incident of an individual-

01:14:51.260 But it's not isolated.

01:14:51.920 That's the problem.

01:14:52.220 Sorry, I'm interrupting.

01:14:52.860 Sorry.

01:14:53.340 I mean, it is isolated.

01:14:54.080 Because if you look at actually specifically with people within Judaism, the amount of

01:14:57.780 havoc they've caused within the United States of America, destroying a society, liberalizing 1.00

01:15:01.900 it.

01:15:02.260 If there's any-

01:15:03.000 If you heard of, for example, you call the Gripers, but one of the things they've highlighted

01:15:05.760 is this idea of basically white genocide that's happening with the population collapse.

01:15:09.240 I believe largely that's happened because of the Jewish control of the media and Jewish 1.00

01:15:12.420 control of the media.

01:15:14.280 I thought it was Zionist control of the media.

01:15:15.280 No, but that's specifically the Jewish Zionist, isn't it?

01:15:17.220 Margaret Sanger did great Planned Parenthood.

01:15:19.480 And so in reality, I would say that's much worse than one person killing another person,

01:15:23.980 even though both are bad.

01:15:25.180 But basically destroying an entire populace is much worse.

01:15:27.600 In addition to that, when you mentioned about the Somali community, I would say, first

01:15:30.500 of all, you have fraud everywhere.

01:15:32.220 I just give you an example of the Orthodox Jews.

01:15:33.820 I'm not talking about the Hasidic ones. 1.00

01:15:34.500 But there's a much higher percentage in the Somali community in Minnesota than there is anywhere else

01:15:38.340 in the country.

01:15:38.620 I disagree with that.

01:15:39.440 We need to look at the data because in reality, for example-

01:15:41.340 We've looked at the data.

01:15:42.440 So how much fraud did Orthodox Jews in New York?

01:15:46.080 I looked at like just three or four incidents and it was almost a billion.

01:15:49.380 Again, what you're doing is you're-

01:15:50.680 They think it's 18 billion in Minnesota.

01:15:52.900 And I'm saying I haven't looked at three or four incidents.

01:15:54.540 Therefore, if we looked at it in detail, we would get a different number.

01:15:57.540 Also, in terms of that, you're basing it on Nick Shirley, who hasn't done a comprehensive

01:16:01.600 detailed analysis and some of that has been debunked.

01:16:03.760 I'm not saying- I'm going to go through each one of them and see the veracity of those.

01:16:06.780 For example, he went to one of them where he went through one of them where they were

01:16:11.200 actually shut.

01:16:12.340 And then he went in there.

01:16:12.880 But in terms of Somalia itself-

01:16:13.700 They were what?

01:16:14.040 The problem-

01:16:14.700 Sorry.

01:16:15.120 That apparently he went, the opening times were like two to 10 and he went before they

01:16:17.660 were open.

01:16:18.500 But in terms-

01:16:18.940 The daycare is open to 10 o'clock, but I digress.

01:16:20.880 I get the point.

01:16:21.440 I'm giving an example.

01:16:22.120 I can't remember the specific timings.

01:16:23.800 But in terms of Somalia itself, the reason why there's immigration from-

01:16:27.620 And by the way, let's be clear.

01:16:28.840 The immigration into the United States of America is coming from not Muslim countries.

01:16:32.440 It's coming from basically Mexico, like Latin countries, which are Catholics, or it's coming 1.00

01:16:37.820 from like India.

01:16:38.700 Those are the-

01:16:39.280 And then China.

01:16:39.660 Those are the top three.

01:16:40.620 The greatest refugee crisis in the world is because of Middle Eastern countries. 1.00

01:16:43.420 The greatest refugee crisis is because of Syria. 1.00

01:16:45.240 But I'll come to that in a second.

01:16:46.580 You see, again, it always goes back to Israel and Zionists. 0.98

01:16:48.340 Let me just answer the point.

01:16:49.040 Syria is the greatest humanitarian disaster. 0.96

01:16:50.540 Yemen is probably too. 0.96

01:16:51.640 And it is all because of Middle Eastern politics and policies of Islamic regimes.

01:16:55.960 That's not true.

01:16:56.620 So what happened in Syria, as an example, was Syria had Bashar al-Assad in charge, right?

01:17:01.480 And it's been proven through WikiLeaks that the United States of America, Hillary Clinton's

01:17:05.880 leaked email that they were funding supporting ISIS.

01:17:08.660 ISIS being the extremist, which was propagated, Wahhabi, Salafist, Islam, propagated by

01:17:15.220 Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the United States of America have had a very

01:17:19.320 close relationship for 50 years.

01:17:20.560 And who were they fighting?

01:17:21.700 They were fighting Hezbollah, who is the enemy of Israel.

01:17:24.000 The idea that Bashar al-Assad was allied with the- hang on.

01:17:26.820 The idea that Bashar al-Assad, who committed chemical genocide against his own people, was

01:17:30.680 in any way-

01:17:31.180 That's debunked.

01:17:31.240 So again, that's a clear distinction between you and me.

01:17:33.400 It is well documented that Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons against his own people.

01:17:36.400 But again, the whole idea, which goes back to my point in the beginning, is that you

01:17:39.920 never ascribe blame to the actions of individuals.

01:17:41.860 You always say it goes back to Zionists, or it goes back to Hillary Clinton, or it goes back

01:17:44.720 to the United States.

01:17:45.720 At some point-

01:17:46.720 Yes, it does.

01:17:47.720 When you cause regime change, when you're basically paying people to do things-

01:17:49.720 Let me make the point.

01:17:50.720 Of course, those people-

01:17:51.720 Let me make the point.

01:17:52.720 For example, where people are paid to go to Syria.

01:17:53.720 Hang on.

01:17:54.720 Let me make the point.

01:17:55.720 When you talk about regime change, it's interesting.

01:17:56.720 You don't talk about the Iranian Islamic regime change in 1979.

01:17:59.720 You don't talk about any of the regime change of the last 100 years-

01:18:01.720 Yeah, regime change-

01:18:02.720 All in the Middle East, conducted by radical Islamists. 0.99

01:18:05.380 Because instead of actually talking about the history of the Middle East-

01:18:07.720 Who did the 1979 regime change?

01:18:09.720 Who did it?

01:18:10.720 The Ayatollah Khomeini!

01:18:11.720 What are you talking about?

01:18:12.720 Where was he?

01:18:13.720 Where was he?

01:18:14.720 He did it with the support of the radical mullahs, which is why you have millions of 1.00

01:18:17.720 Iranians in the streets today.

01:18:18.720 But again, I'm sure that also has to do with the Zionists, or the Jews, or whatever, who 0.61

01:18:21.720 are funding it as well.

01:18:22.720 At some point, you have to concede moral and human agency, that people can make their own

01:18:25.720 choices in life.

01:18:26.720 And unfortunately, one of the greatest problems facing Western civilization today, let's call

01:18:30.720 a spade a spade, is radical Islamists. 0.83

01:18:32.720 There's only one sect, one religion, one-

01:18:34.720 I'd say radical Judaism. 0.94

01:18:35.720 Hang on.

01:18:36.720 But again, to my point, even if you want to make the point, which as I've clearly demonstrated,

01:18:39.720 is not true, that Jews are controlling the media, and Jews are controlling the banks,

01:18:42.720 and Jews are controlling finances. 1.00

01:18:43.720 American Jews are not going to fly planes into world trade centers. 0.94

01:18:48.720 We are not going to bomb buses.

01:18:49.720 They'll just get Americans to do it. 0.99

01:18:50.720 Again, that's exactly my point.

01:18:51.720 Even if I wanted to concede that point, which again, is demonstrably not true.

01:18:55.720 So again, you don't subscribe any moral or human agency when radical Islamists commit

01:18:59.720 actual terrorism.

01:19:00.720 No, but the point is, radical Judaism, what they do is they control the United States 1.00

01:19:04.720 of America.

01:19:05.720 Who?

01:19:06.720 Who?

01:19:07.720 I'm going to split it.

01:19:08.720 And what they do is, and if you look at it, they'll basically bomb the Middle East. 0.99

01:19:10.720 Mention names of American Jews.

01:19:11.720 Let me make this point.

01:19:12.720 So this is, to Suleiman's point, if you look at the Mujahideen, which was the origin

01:19:17.720 of the modern day ISIS and al-Qaeda, was created by the CIA in order, this is true, to

01:19:23.720 fund a war against Russia in Afghanistan.

01:19:25.720 You can look up the Mujahideen.

01:19:26.720 Why was Russia fighting in Afghanistan, which by the way was a bad war?

01:19:29.720 Because they wanted their oil and gas.

01:19:30.720 It's because, and who are they fighting?

01:19:31.720 Radical Islamists. 0.96

01:19:32.720 This idea, this premise, that radical Islam only came into the geopolitical scene in the

01:19:35.720 21st century is so divorced from reality.

01:19:37.720 Are you trying to say that we did not fund the Mujahideen?

01:19:40.720 We funded Osama bin Laden. 0.99

01:19:41.720 Absolutely.

01:19:42.720 I'm not disputing that.

01:19:43.720 You're right.

01:19:44.720 America is giving Islamic terrorists weapons to fight a war. 0.97

01:19:47.720 I don't understand how you're going to see that's a conflict of interest.

01:19:49.720 No, no, no.

01:19:50.720 I'm not disagreeing with your point.

01:19:51.720 Hang on, hang on.

01:19:52.720 I'm not disagreeing with you at all.

01:19:53.720 In the 1980s, the CIA did fund, let me make the point, the CIA in the 1980s absolutely

01:19:57.720 did fund the Mujahideen.

01:19:58.720 They did fund Osama bin Laden. 0.50

01:19:59.720 The point I am making is radical Islam has existed well before the establishment of the 0.77

01:20:04.720 State of Israel in 1948, well before the establishment of the United States in 1776,

01:20:08.720 well before the establishment of Western civilization as we know it today.

01:20:12.720 Radical Islam has been a profound problem, let's call a spade a spade, since the advent of 1.00

01:20:15.720 Islam itself. 0.91

01:20:16.720 Which is why, as I said earlier, in 628 CE, when the Muslims killed the Jewish community 1.00

01:20:20.720 in Saudi Arabia, and they chanted Chaiber Chaiber Al Yahud, that is still a chant being chanted today.

01:20:25.720 Does that mean all Muslims?

01:20:26.720 Absolutely not.

01:20:27.720 I would love to get a beer, well maybe I shouldn't say beer, because that's probably not something

01:20:30.720 you're drinking.

01:20:31.720 But I'd love to hang out with you.

01:20:32.720 I think there's so much in common that unites Muslim Americans with Jewish Americans, the

01:20:36.720 immigrant experience, absolutely.

01:20:37.720 But we also have to recognize that one of the threats against Western civilization are

01:20:41.720 people who are being radicalized both at home and abroad, and don't subscribe to the

01:20:46.720 American way of life, whether it's coming from the Jewish community or the Muslim community.

01:20:50.720 But let's be honest, it's way more of a problem in the Muslim community. 0.86

01:20:53.720 First of all, when you mentioned the situation, I believe you're talking about the Jews of Banu

01:20:57.720 Kareza, what happened there was that, once again, what happened was the Jews and the Muslims 0.99

01:21:02.720 had an alliance, what then the Jewish people of Banu Kareza betrayed the Muslims, tried to

01:21:07.720 get them killed. 0.81

01:21:08.720 And what did they do? 0.99

01:21:09.720 They basically killed only the fighting men.

01:21:10.720 So that was a punishment for betraying them to try and get them killed.

01:21:13.720 So that's actually what happened there.

01:21:14.720 You could disagree with it or not, but that's what happened.

01:21:16.720 Betrayal, unfortunately, happens a lot.

01:21:17.720 Now, in terms of the second point you made, it's the other way around.

01:21:21.720 When you look at the biggest threat to Western civilization is Jewish extremism. 1.00

01:21:26.720 This idea, this notion that they're basically, they're forcing Western society or Western

01:21:31.720 countries to fight wars for them.

01:21:33.720 They're destroying the economy in these societies.

01:21:35.720 And if you look at it, as you mentioned, disproportionately, right?

01:21:38.720 And I would say overwhelmingly disproportionately, Jewish people control the media. 0.77

01:21:42.720 They control politics.

01:21:43.720 They control all aspects of life.

01:21:45.720 And what that results in is, as I said, something you've not even spoke about because

01:21:49.720 it's a major issue.

01:21:50.720 There's a reason why Christianity has died in the Western world. 1.00

01:21:53.720 United States of America is the only country where it's not completely died.

01:21:55.720 But if you look at Europe, Christianity has dropped.

01:21:58.720 In the UK, for example, you know, you said you're from the UK, right?

01:22:01.720 The Christianity, yeah, sorry. 1.00

01:22:03.720 The Christianity used to be 75%. 0.99

01:22:05.720 And now it's only 45%.

01:22:07.720 It's dropped 30%.

01:22:08.720 What's it drop 30%?

01:22:09.720 It's atheism.

01:22:10.720 Atheism has increased by 25%.

01:22:12.720 So in reality, what's happened is, I believe through the media, through these different

01:22:17.720 initiatives, through NGO groups, through funding and various other things, what's happened is, 0.93

01:22:22.720 the complete destruction of Christian society, the complete destruction of white people. 0.98

01:22:27.720 And I think that's the biggest problem. 0.60

01:22:29.720 I think if United States of America was only fighting...

01:22:31.720 On that we can agree.

01:22:32.720 Sorry?

01:22:33.720 Yeah.

01:22:34.720 And the only...

01:22:35.720 The United States of America would do well not to fight Israel's wars in the Middle East. 0.62

01:22:39.720 The United States of America would be better to concentrate on the United States of America, 0.91

01:22:43.720 help the people of the United States of America, not enrich, for example, the military-industrial

01:22:48.720 complex, which has a dual benefit to Israel and the military-industrial complex.

01:22:52.720 But in reality, look at the people.

01:22:53.720 When I come to the US, as I mentioned, like the people here are amazing.

01:22:56.720 But I don't go in an Uber without speaking to someone who says, they've got two jobs,

01:22:59.720 they're working 60 hours, they're working 70 hours.

01:23:01.720 It's very tough on people.

01:23:02.720 So I think the United States of America should stop concentrating on foreign wars for foreign

01:23:08.720 people who have not assimilated, who have an attack on the Constitution, attack the

01:23:13.720 First Amendment, the entire thing that makes America, America, and instead improve the

01:23:18.720 lives of Americans.

01:23:19.720 So I agree with you in terms of diagnosing the problem that we are not having birthrights

01:23:22.720 at a replacement level.

01:23:23.720 I agree with you that the decline of Christianity, thankfully, it's not really happening in the 0.99

01:23:26.720 United States in post-Charlie Kirk.

01:23:27.720 We're actually seeing a resurgence of Christianity, particularly among Gen Z.

01:23:30.720 I think these are all accurate diagnoses of the problem.

01:23:33.720 Where I disagree, though, with is the solution.

01:23:35.720 So first of all, you talk about the decline of Christianity in Europe, for example.

01:23:39.720 So Germany, there are very, very few Jews living in Germany, mostly because the Germans 1.00

01:23:43.720 killed all of them.

01:23:44.720 And in the last 10 years, Germany has taken in more than 5 million Muslim migrants into 0.88

01:23:50.720 their society.

01:23:51.720 They don't assimilate, which is why you have, particularly in Western Europe, a tremendous 1.00

01:23:54.720 problem with no-go zones in France, in the UK, and yes, in Germany.

01:23:57.720 That has nothing to do with Jews because-

01:23:58.720 There is no no-go zones.

01:23:59.720 Hang on, let me make the point.

01:24:00.720 But there is no no-go zones in the UK.

01:24:01.720 Sorry, sorry.

01:24:02.720 Let me speak.

01:24:03.720 That has nothing to do with Jews because there are no Jews living in Germany.

01:24:05.720 It has to do with policymakers, globalists, and leftists.

01:24:07.720 And I think we can all agree with that.

01:24:09.720 So I agree with you in terms of diagnosing the problem, but I think you're wildly wrong

01:24:12.720 when it comes to who is to blame and what to do about it.

01:24:14.720 The second point is I agree with you.

01:24:16.720 Well, let me do the second point and then let me respond.

01:24:18.720 Remind me the points because I forgot.

01:24:19.720 Okay.

01:24:20.720 In terms of the military industrial complex, I agree with you.

01:24:23.720 One of the greatest speeches ever given by an American president in the 20th century was

01:24:26.720 Dwight Eisenhower's leaving speech, whatever it's called, when he speaks about the dangers

01:24:30.720 of the military industrial complex.

01:24:32.720 I think Donald Trump is actually wrong to produce a budget of $1.5 trillion to fund our military,

01:24:36.720 where as you just said, we have tremendous problems with our economy, with affordability,

01:24:39.720 with homelessness.

01:24:40.720 However, when it comes to funding foreign wars, which again, I'm not entirely sure how

01:24:43.720 you're defining funding foreign wars here, but foreign aid and the money we give to Israel,

01:24:48.720 which you keep mentioning time and time again, represents less than 1% of the federal budget.

01:24:53.720 And I would agree with you.

01:24:54.720 Let's stop foreign aid entirely.

01:24:55.720 But when we fixate on one country, Israel, which by the way, the United States military, for example,

01:24:59.720 has the largest arsenal of UAVs in the world.

01:25:01.720 A lot of that relies on Israeli made military equipment, like the Pioneer and the Hunter drones.

01:25:06.720 The US Abram tanks are equipped with the trophy system.

01:25:09.720 The trophy system was developed by Israel.

01:25:11.720 And even then, even though Israel is so advantageous to the American military, I would still agree 1.00

01:25:15.720 with you, let's limit foreign aid.

01:25:17.720 But come on.

01:25:18.720 And this is where I get bothered with like Nick Fuentes. 0.96

01:25:20.720 The problems that young people have with affordability, which are real problems, the economy sucks. 0.91

01:25:24.720 It has nothing to do with Israel.

01:25:26.720 It has nothing to do with foreign aid.

01:25:27.720 And if you do want to talk about foreign aid, it's bizarre to me that no one has mentioned.

01:25:30.720 We gave Somalia $1.2 billion in foreign aid last year.

01:25:34.720 You know, we still give money in foreign aid to the actual Taliban.

01:25:36.720 We give it to Qatar, and then Qatar actually gives cash to the Taliban.

01:25:40.720 This was brought up in a House Judiciary Committee just a few weeks ago.

01:25:43.720 We gave roughly $2 billion to Nigeria, who are conducting a genocide against Christians. 1.00

01:25:47.720 So I agree with you, let's cut the foreign aid. 0.68

01:25:49.720 But what I get bothered by is when we tell young people that the reason our economy is so bad,

01:25:54.720 and the reason you're working two jobs is because of, you know, foreign conflicts.

01:25:57.720 I'm telling you, I'm happy to end foreign conflicts. 0.99

01:26:00.720 But I'm telling you, it's just not true.

01:26:03.720 I appreciate if you do that.

01:26:04.720 But I've been saying this for three years.

01:26:06.720 No, I'm saying you said I'll be happy to end it.

01:26:07.720 But let me just learn the 1% thing, and then give me the other one.

01:26:09.720 And I forgot your first point, you have to remind me.

01:26:11.720 The first point was on Germans accepting 5 million Muslim migrants, and there are no Jews living in Germany.

01:26:15.720 Yeah, so first of all, in terms of 1% foreign aid, it's actually a lot more than that.

01:26:19.720 And this is the problem.

01:26:20.720 This is kind of like a manipulation because it's actually quite complex.

01:26:23.720 So what happens is, first of all, you get the 3.7 billion that goes to Israel, then you have-

01:26:27.720 But it doesn't. Hang on. That's not true.

01:26:29.720 I'm going to respond to that. I know what the talking point is.

01:26:31.720 So say you're right.

01:26:32.720 I'm going to explain it.

01:26:34.720 I'm going to explain it. Don't worry.

01:26:36.720 It has 90% of foreign aid to Israel, which again, I agree we should cut.

01:26:40.720 90% of it has to go back to American companies.

01:26:42.720 We know. We're going to come to that in a second.

01:26:44.720 I already know the talking point on that.

01:26:46.720 It's not a talking point. It's a fact.

01:26:47.720 You know, I'm going to explain how it works.

01:26:49.720 So in reality, first of all, you have the 3.7 billion.

01:26:51.720 Then you have the money that goes to Egypt.

01:26:53.720 Then you have the money that goes to Jordan.

01:26:55.720 All this money is really going for Israel.

01:26:57.720 It's not true because the ECA-

01:26:59.720 I'm sorry, you're right.

01:27:00.720 And then the other thing is, in terms of the money that goes into Israel,

01:27:03.720 that's not counting the fact that when Israel's in war, which a lot of times they're always in war,

01:27:07.720 is they give additional money.

01:27:09.720 So for example, during the Biden administration, 2024, they gave about $20 billion additional.

01:27:14.720 During Trump's administration, up until the ceasefire, they'd given $28 billion.

01:27:18.720 That doesn't even count.

01:27:19.720 The fact that during, for example, the 12-day war, even before that, even after that,

01:27:23.720 they were replenishing Israel's defense systems.

01:27:25.720 It's why Netanyahu didn't want to go to war because he's like, flip, we got destroyed by Iran. 0.66

01:27:28.720 We need more defense missiles.

01:27:30.720 And so he needed more THAAD.

01:27:31.720 They need more RO3.

01:27:33.720 They need more RO2.

01:27:34.720 United States of America.

01:27:35.720 United States of America was sending THAADs.

01:27:36.720 In addition to that, you basically have it where, during the 12-day war,

01:27:40.720 United States of America was spending money in terms of, from a military perspective,

01:27:43.720 they were helping with the refueling.

01:27:44.720 They were helping with all other aspects.

01:27:46.720 They were compensating.

01:27:47.720 Other countries were helping the United States of Israel.

01:27:49.720 Because really the 12-day war was the world against Iran. 0.57

01:27:52.720 Because you had basically, you had Qatar on your side. 0.90

01:27:54.720 You had, you know, you guys hear Qatar, but you love them when they're on your side,

01:27:56.720 which they always are almost.

01:27:57.720 Qatar on your side.

01:27:58.720 You had the UAE on your side. 0.98

01:27:59.720 You had Saudi Arabia on your side.

01:28:00.720 You had Jordan on your side.

01:28:01.720 You had Egypt on your side. 0.94

01:28:02.720 You had France on your side. 0.54

01:28:03.720 You had United States of America on your side.

01:28:04.720 You had UK on your side.

01:28:05.720 You had Australia on your side.

01:28:06.720 So all of them were defending.

01:28:07.720 They were helping with refueling or defense or different mechanisms within the 12-day war.

01:28:11.720 That doesn't even count the fact that, as I said, what happens is, with the 3 billion,

01:28:15.720 because let's forget all that, which is a huge amount already.

01:28:18.720 So when you said the $1.5 trillion budget, a lot of that, not all of it, but a lot of that is for Israelis.

01:28:23.720 Now, in terms of the specific point you made about how it works with the military industrial complex.

01:28:27.720 What they do is, this is just crazy, they'll give $3 billion to Israel.

01:28:31.720 Israel has to spend it on the military industrial complex, right?

01:28:34.720 So you're still getting the free stuff.

01:28:36.720 Then what happens is that money goes to the military industrial complex, which the military industrial complex then end up getting the money.

01:28:42.720 And what is the military industrial complex?

01:28:44.720 It's a Zionist-run organization.

01:28:46.720 So it's like double-dipping.

01:28:47.720 So what happens is, you get the 3 billion, you get the military equipment, you then get the military equipment, and then you get the funding to the military industrial complex.

01:28:54.720 And the military industrial complex use that money for more Zionist initiatives on various other things.

01:28:59.720 In addition to that, what's even more crazy about all of this is not just the fact that the funding is significant.

01:29:05.720 Oh, sorry, I forgot what the point is made, but let me go to the Germany point now.

01:29:08.720 I forgot what I was saying.

01:29:09.720 So the Germany point, with Germany, yes, there isn't many Jews there.

01:29:13.720 That doesn't mean that they don't run things.

01:29:15.720 You see Germany now. 0.79

01:29:16.720 They are completely subservient to the Zionists. 1.00

01:29:19.720 You looked at the way they acted during the Israel-Gaza conflict.

01:29:22.720 You look at it now in terms of the position of anti-Semitism.

01:29:25.720 It's one of the few places in the world, a lot of the European countries, but one of the few European countries which is very strict on Holocaust denial.

01:29:32.720 Which, in my view, like, you can agree with the numbers in the Holocaust or disagree.

01:29:36.720 It should be just a rational conversation that people have.

01:29:38.720 And the reason why it becomes a big topic is because of the censorious nature of the conversation.

01:29:42.720 And so when you talk about, for example, Nick Fuentes, what was the point you made about Nick?

01:29:47.720 Is when you're telling young people the reason you can't have a job, the reason you can't afford it is because of the foreign conflict.

01:29:52.720 So I disagree with that. What he's done is he's highlighted the issue, he's raised awareness, and now they put plans in place to ensure that, for example, they get America First candidates who succeed.

01:30:01.720 But when you don't diagnose the problem, then people are blind to it, and that's what's been happening for a very long time.

01:30:05.720 So let me make one quick point.

01:30:07.720 And Shabbos, I do agree, you know, that's why Benjamin Netanyahu is saying for 10 years that we don't need this money.

01:30:11.720 But he doesn't need that $3 billion because he knows that our intelligence agencies and the CIA and Mossad are basically working together.

01:30:17.720 So in a way, our militaries, I would say, are very linked up.

01:30:20.720 So he knows that at the end of the day, if they need weapons or something, that they're going to get it.

01:30:23.720 And with that being said, I think Israel can defend itself.

01:30:26.720 I think a perfect example is this is when Benjamin Netanyahu gave a golden pager to President Donald Trump, which I kind of interpret that a little bit as a threat.

01:30:33.720 But my point is, they're giving bombs to random guys and blowing people up.

01:30:38.720 So I'm saying Israel is not this, you know, they're not that weak.

01:30:43.720 They're pretty strong, powerful.

01:30:44.720 I agree, which is why any time I've met with Israeli officials, I actually had a meeting once, I mean, not just with me, but with Prime Minister Bibi.

01:30:49.720 And I said, you should not take American foreign aid.

01:30:51.720 He was in New York meeting with Trump and they had an event with like young American Jewish students.

01:30:55.720 It's not like some conspiracy.

01:30:56.720 I called Bibi and said, hey, you got to quit the foreign aid. 0.88

01:30:59.720 By the way, the ex-head of the CIA, the ex-head of Mossad, he had an event a couple of months ago because he wrote a book, which I went to.

01:31:05.720 And he also gave out golden pagers to everyone, which I also thought was like, what's the implication of this?

01:31:11.720 We know the implication.

01:31:13.720 Yeah, exactly.

01:31:14.720 You didn't get one, did you study?

01:31:15.720 No.

01:31:16.720 Oh, my God.

01:31:17.720 Let's just say there's a reason there's an Israeli flag.

01:31:18.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:31:19.720 I love you.

01:31:20.720 Right, sorry.

01:31:21.720 Need the 7K.

01:31:22.720 But again, when you talk about, well, the Zionists control Germany, the Zionists are controlling the military and industrial complex. 0.90

01:31:26.720 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:27.720 What you are doing is you're not arguing to the point that we have alliances with countries all over the world, which is why if you look at the Federalist Papers, for example, it is replete.

01:31:35.720 In fact, the most common term in the Federalist Papers is common defense.

01:31:38.720 It talks about the importance of having military alliances that defend American interests, right?

01:31:42.720 Thomas Jefferson.

01:31:43.720 Again, I keep going back to President Jefferson because he was the first president to recognize that we live, unfortunately, in a world and in a world that is quite dangerous.

01:31:49.720 So it is advantageous to advance American interests, not only domestically here at home, but also across the world, which is, again, I keep going back to the Barbary War because it really demonstrates that America first does not mean America alone.

01:32:00.720 So for example, we have a multi-billion dollar base in South Korea that we're spending money on every single year.

01:32:04.720 We have a multi-billion dollar base in Japan.

01:32:06.720 We have a multi-billion dollar base in Qatar.

01:32:07.720 We have a multi-billion dollar base in Germany.

01:32:09.720 But no one talks about those things because we recognize it's advantageous to have outposts of Western American democracy in those places.

01:32:15.720 Hang on, let me make the point.

01:32:17.720 Hang on, let me make the point.

01:32:18.720 The only country that we fixate on, and again, I keep going back to this point of I agree with you, let's cut the foreign aid, but it's a little silly when we only focus-

01:32:24.720 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

01:32:25.720 I'm just asking for you to elucidate, not just the aid, but also the military support, also all the extension of the money, also not physically defending them.

01:32:35.720 No, let me explain.

01:32:37.720 And that's why I always knew what the plan was.

01:32:38.720 No, you're not letting me finish because I believe we support our allies if they're advancing American interests.

01:32:43.720 So for example, we've given, I think, $300 billion to Ukraine in the last four or five years alone.

01:32:48.720 Which is not good.

01:32:49.720 It's interesting that you talk about Israel all the time, you don't even mention Ukraine, which vastly overweighs how much Israel has gotten since its existence.

01:32:56.720 I'm against that as well.

01:32:57.720 I'm against that as well.

01:32:58.720 But what I would say, but you're only against it because I brought it up, because again, we only talk about one obsessive country.

01:33:02.720 No, no, I brought it many times.

01:33:03.720 I'm talking to a pro-Israel person, if I was talking to a pro-Ukraine person.

01:33:04.720 I am pro-Ukrainian, I am pro-Taiwanese, I'm pro any country that advances American hegemony and American military dominance anywhere in the world.

01:33:10.720 Does that mean that they can only be, like Ukraine, exclusively reliant on one country?

01:33:14.720 Absolutely not.

01:33:15.720 Which is why I support America supporting the Ukrainian military, not to the tune of $300 billion, because I think if we only allow the Ukrainians to be reliant on another country, they will never be self-sufficient.

01:33:24.720 Which is why the regime change in countries like Iraq or Afghanistan never worked, because the Afghani army, the Iraqi army, were incompetent.

01:33:32.720 They were never able to use American military equipment because they were literally high the entire time.

01:33:37.720 So I believe in advancing American military interests.

01:33:40.720 At this point in time, one of our greatest adversaries is Iran. 1.00

01:33:43.720 Iran tried assassinating President Trump, which is why President Trump said in the White House, actually, in the Oval Office, you can deny it, but you have to tell President Trump why he's wrong on this, where he actually left instructions in case he was killed.

01:33:54.720 We know for a fact that Iran was behind the 1983 Beirut bombing, which killed 243 U.S. Marines, which, again, no one talks about.

01:34:01.720 We don't talk about the fact that Israel is the only country that is fighting Islamists and actually kills Hezbollah fighters, for example, that are on the FBI's Most Wanted.

01:34:08.720 There was a senior Hezbollah leader who was in charge of another embassy bombing.

01:34:12.720 I'm forgetting his name in a second, but I'll look it up.

01:34:14.720 Israel killed him last year.

01:34:15.720 He had a $5 million bounty from the United States government, and Israel did it for free. 0.87

01:34:20.720 So does that mean Israel can exclusively be reliant on American military?

01:34:23.720 Absolutely not.

01:34:24.720 But let's be honest with ourselves.

01:34:25.720 Israel, in many cases, does advance American interests, and I'm happy to hear arguments that they don't. 0.88

01:34:30.720 But unfortunately, all you're pointing to is this conspiratorial that Jews are controlling it, that the American military industrial complex, which I have many problems with, are controlled by the Zionists.

01:34:38.720 Which, again, I'm not sure why you're making that case that they're in the pocket of Zionists when they support a whole host of countries, which is why they're the military industrial complex, which we should talk about. 0.79

01:34:48.720 It's a problem, but stop fixating on one country.

01:34:50.720 And again, the last point I'll make, and then I'll stop talking, is even if I were to take all of your numbers into consideration, which is true, the $16 billion authored by President Biden and the roughly $20 billion authored by President Trump, even though a significant amount of that still has to be spent on American military technology, even if we were to take all of those numbers into consideration, you are still talking about a fraction of a fraction.

01:35:12.720 So, I agree with you. We are spending way too much. We spend $7 trillion of our federal budget every single year. The problem we face in our country, which, I'm American, I don't know if you have American citizenship, but I've lived here my whole life.

01:35:24.720 This is my country. I was born here. I'm going to die here. The problems we face in our economy have very, very little to do with how we interact with foreign countries. It just doesn't. 0.97

01:35:33.720 The biggest problem we have, the biggest problem, are our entitlement programs, social security, welfare.

01:35:38.720 Thank you for bringing that back domestically. We have devolved into a conversation about foreign policy in the Middle East, and that's not at all what we can hear to talk about.

01:35:45.180 Let me just respond to that.

01:35:46.240 Let's talk about America. We just had an election that talked about, you know, I mean, one of the big issues. Hang on, you've had a lot of time to speak.

01:35:53.860 It's two against one. It is two against one.

01:35:56.140 So, yeah, but I've not had as much time, so let me say something here.

01:35:59.880 We just had an election where one of the big themes was, you know, no more foreign entanglements in these forever wars, not funding these forever wars.

01:36:07.100 And I think, at least in my party, the Republican Party, that the majority of Republicans do agree with that.

01:36:12.120 We support President Trump in that.

01:36:13.980 And, look, he has done a few things globally, but it's been very limited compared to many of his predecessors.

01:36:19.340 And I think Americans support that and appreciate that about Donald Trump.

01:36:22.880 You know, the $1.5 trillion, I don't know. That's up for debate.

01:36:25.740 We can talk about that further.

01:36:27.760 I think sometimes Trump says things that are, you know, it's all part of a negotiation or something else is going on that we're not aware of.

01:36:33.680 But what I want to focus on is really, like, what are we doing that is America first, right?

01:36:39.000 That is the movement that I associate with, focusing on what does it mean to be an American, what is happening in our culture, what is happening in our society, our cities.

01:36:48.140 And I think, generally speaking, the majority of Americans are looking around saying things have changed dramatically in the last, you know, 20 or 30 years.

01:36:57.080 And you could point to, well, we, you know, we were involved in Somalia, you know, under the Clinton administration, and they brought a bunch of Somalis in, and that was wrong.

01:37:04.520 We should have done that.

01:37:05.620 You know, we've allowed, you know, during the Biden administration, we allowed 20 million illegal aliens to come over, which, by the way, were not majority Mexicans.

01:37:12.580 You know, they were from 150 different countries.

01:37:15.740 So, you know, people from all over the world were coming here because they saw it as their opportunity to get in and get into our system where, you know, for money, obviously.

01:37:23.560 Now, some of those are just receiving money.

01:37:25.460 Some of those are working hard.

01:37:26.900 I concede that not all immigrants are bad.

01:37:28.960 But when you have lower birth rates and lower job acceptance among people who were from America originally, that is what's creating all this frustration.

01:37:39.340 And while, you know, there are online personalities that I vehemently disagree with, you know, there is this sense that there is this helplessness that, you know, people kind of like under 30 have lived their whole life.

01:37:49.440 Now, I'm old enough that I've sort of seen the shift, but these people under 30 recognize that they can't get into college because of their skin color.

01:37:56.720 They can't get into college because they're male or they're not LGBTQ or whatever. 0.98

01:38:00.760 Like, there are all these categories that colleges are, you know, working overtime to import people.

01:38:06.300 There are jobs that are working overtime to import people who are not Americans.

01:38:10.340 And I think our policy should be let's focus on what is good for Americans.

01:38:15.780 And there's not enough people doing that.

01:38:17.800 I think there's not enough politicians willing to do that.

01:38:20.740 You know, I talk to a lot of voters.

01:38:22.500 Voters want people who tell the truth.

01:38:24.380 And, you know, I may not be right about everything.

01:38:26.360 I'm probably wrong about a lot of things.

01:38:27.500 I don't really care.

01:38:28.360 But what I always endeavor to do is tell you the truth about what I believe and what I will do.

01:38:34.220 And there's not enough people doing that.

01:38:36.880 And this notion that we're just going to, you know, admit the whole world into America.

01:38:41.180 I mean, we've let roughly, you know, in the last 60 years, we've let in roughly 100 million people into America who are not Americans.

01:38:48.520 They're still not Americans. 1.00

01:38:49.480 I mean, you talked about, you know, a generation of Somalis who have been here for 20 years.

01:38:53.240 They still don't speak any English.

01:38:54.760 I mean, so this is the problem.

01:38:57.160 Letting in a couple immigrants here and there, I think most people are okay with that.

01:39:00.880 And I think historically that has proven to be okay.

01:39:02.740 But the problem is there has been a rapid acceleration in the last, you know, call it generation or two where we've let in so many that we are witnessing in real time the destruction of our culture.

01:39:12.880 The same way Western Europe is also losing its culture, I would argue.

01:39:16.660 I mean, letting in millions of, you know, predominantly Muslims there.

01:39:21.420 That is the predominant, you know, immigrant in Western Europe.

01:39:24.700 We are watching in real time the destruction of their culture. 0.90

01:39:29.040 And I think most people don't want that to happen here.

01:39:30.860 So I agree with you.

01:39:31.860 You want to piggyback this one point because everybody's like, Alex looks in deep thought.

01:39:34.900 But this is for Shabbos because it was talking about back to the military industrial complex.

01:39:38.900 I think you and I both agree that the IDF is a very good military, right?

01:39:42.120 They're strong military.

01:39:42.940 Who?

01:39:43.460 The IDF.

01:39:44.240 Good.

01:39:44.460 You know, I'm just saying there.

01:39:46.040 I think that's kind of just understood.

01:39:47.900 And this is what frustrates me because, you know, obviously, you know, I support Israel.

01:39:51.680 But this is what frustrates me is that when I have to do these debates, the IDF is arguably one of the best militaries in the world.

01:39:57.320 But then you look at the civilian casualty rate in Gaza, it's 84 percent civilian.

01:40:01.200 So I just.

01:40:01.780 It's not 84.

01:40:02.380 That's not a real.

01:40:02.820 That's the IDF.

01:40:03.660 The IDF says that number.

01:40:04.640 No, no, no.

01:40:05.040 No.

01:40:05.280 What they said.

01:40:06.140 No, no, no.

01:40:06.380 I'll explain the statistic for you.

01:40:07.640 But do you want me to do that now or do you want to finish?

01:40:09.500 Statistic.

01:40:09.920 Let me respond to his previous point.

01:40:11.840 Even if it's close to 80.

01:40:12.780 Even if it's 60 percent.

01:40:13.520 It's not even close to 80.

01:40:14.820 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:40:15.500 I'll tell you how.

01:40:16.020 That's the IDF's number.

01:40:16.840 So I don't want to.

01:40:17.420 It's not the IDF's number.

01:40:18.280 But I want to let you finish.

01:40:18.920 Well, let's fact check.

01:40:19.840 You can back check me right now.

01:40:21.080 It's not 84 percent.

01:40:21.720 My point is a lot of.

01:40:22.100 OK, so you don't think any civilians die in Gaza?

01:40:24.060 No, of course civilians die in Gaza.

01:40:25.500 So that's what I'm saying.

01:40:26.640 I just think if America was going and indiscriminately killing civilians, which that does happen in our wars.

01:40:31.160 We killed civilians probably in Argentina in that evasion.

01:40:33.540 I'm just saying I think that's why people do have a frustration with Israel.

01:40:37.020 And I think that's why young people, they look at TikTok.

01:40:39.960 They see that now it's bought.

01:40:41.240 You know, now it's totally changed.

01:40:42.240 But you know what I mean?

01:40:43.080 So I guess I get frustrated when I see a military that is an excellent military making, you know,

01:40:49.120 the world not necessarily a better place by killing civilians that really aren't Hamas. 0.76

01:40:53.540 Sure.

01:40:53.860 So first of all, again, I agree with you.

01:40:56.340 The IDF is more than able and equipped to handle their own fights.

01:41:00.300 Interestingly enough, Bibi has told President Trump we don't want American foreign aid.

01:41:03.960 And President Trump, according to Jay Insider, released this morning, has said,

01:41:06.840 No, no, no, we need it.

01:41:07.740 Why?

01:41:08.040 Because he actually doesn't want Israel to be competitive and competing against American military companies,

01:41:12.900 which I think validates your point about the military industrial complex.

01:41:15.620 But again, I agree with you.

01:41:17.260 I am America first.

01:41:18.340 America first means we should advance, whether it's domestic policy or foreign policy,

01:41:22.440 any policy, if it helps Americans.

01:41:24.700 Every single relationship we have with any country should be from the standpoint of,

01:41:28.580 is this helping the American people?

01:41:29.980 Yes or no.

01:41:30.740 Whether it's Israel, whether it's Ukraine, whether it's Taiwan, whether it's Japan,

01:41:33.760 whether it's China or Russia, if this is going to help the American people, let's do it.

01:41:37.080 And if it won't help the American people, let's not do it.

01:41:39.220 In terms of the 84%, that number comes from-

01:41:41.340 Would you fight for America?

01:41:41.740 Hang on.

01:41:42.100 Sorry?

01:41:42.420 Would you fight for America if they went against-

01:41:43.760 Absolutely.

01:41:44.260 In fact, not only have historically Jewish Americans fought for the United States-

01:41:47.520 No, but what about if you've got family members on the other side?

01:41:49.860 Hang on, hang on.

01:41:50.380 I'm registered for the draft right now.

01:41:51.860 But what about if you had family members in the IDF?

01:41:53.160 I'm registered for the draft right now.

01:41:54.640 Wait, acknowledge that point.

01:41:55.740 No, no.

01:41:55.960 You said when I fight for America, not only would I fight for America.

01:41:58.680 Yes, and I'm very proud to do it.

01:42:00.000 No, but you don't answer my question.

01:42:00.700 You don't answer my question.

01:42:01.600 What's the question?

01:42:02.040 So, have you got family members in the IDF?

01:42:05.480 I had a brother, yeah.

01:42:06.460 Okay.

01:42:06.860 So, would you fight against him?

01:42:08.280 If America called me to fight, absolutely.

01:42:10.180 So, you'd fight against your brother?

01:42:11.320 As I've said numerous times, my loyalties is to the United States.

01:42:14.080 But not your brothers?

01:42:15.320 What do you mean, not my brothers?

01:42:16.100 Because your brother was fighting for Israel.

01:42:17.160 Do you agree with the forced conscription, Shabbos?

01:42:19.200 Do you think that's okay that they have to-

01:42:20.140 In the United States?

01:42:21.000 No, no, no.

01:42:21.440 We don't.

01:42:21.760 Well, I mean, that's if we have a draft.

01:42:23.020 Should we have a forced conscription?

01:42:23.660 The IDF does have forced conscription.

01:42:25.580 I'm not anti-war, so I'm against forced conscription. 0.78

01:42:27.900 Yeah, the problem is, Israel's in a really shitty neighborhood, so they don't really have much of a- 1.00

01:42:31.780 They don't have an excuse, which is why South Korea has the same thing. 0.99

01:42:34.140 Because when your neighbor is fucking North Korea, you don't really have any options. 1.00

01:42:36.800 Which is why, actually, some of the most badass women on planet Earth are actually Israeli women who serve in the IDF, 1.00

01:42:41.880 having these massive machine guns as they're going to the supermarket.

01:42:45.260 But absolutely, again, this is why I kind of hate how the Twitterverse has dumbed down our nuance of political disagreement.

01:42:50.920 My loyalties are to the United States.

01:42:52.420 And a lot of people watching will say, oh, your name is Shabbos Kustoman when you wear a kippah. 1.00

01:42:55.700 Yeah, no shit. 0.99

01:42:56.320 I think it's complex when there's a lot of American Jews who serve for Israel. 1.00

01:42:59.900 That's the problem.

01:43:00.420 And there are lots of American Jews who serve for America.

01:43:01.860 So I'm telling you as fact, there are Jews who live all over the world.

01:43:04.220 There are Jews who fought for England.

01:43:05.360 There are Jews who fought for India.

01:43:06.360 No, no, I'm talking about American citizens.

01:43:06.880 And I am telling you right now-

01:43:08.120 No, no, Shabbos, I'm talking about American citizens- 0.90

01:43:09.840 And I am telling you American citizens-

01:43:11.400 Who then serve for a foreign army.

01:43:12.320 And I am telling you there are American Jewish citizens who fought for the United States.

01:43:15.640 And we are proud to do so.

01:43:17.080 We fought and died for this country.

01:43:18.320 And we will continue to fight and die for-

01:43:20.320 I agree with you.

01:43:21.240 We're not in disagreement here.

01:43:22.320 I think you're trying to get me on a gotcha question.

01:43:23.780 No, no, I'm not trying to get a gotcha.

01:43:24.560 I'm trying to explain to you the problem you have with the Jewel Allegiance issue.

01:43:27.500 And why this is important is there's a few points.

01:43:29.100 I need to respond to all the points.

01:43:29.520 But if you want to make that point, because again, I wanted to answer your question, Alex.

01:43:32.120 But if you want to make that point, then you also have to contend with the fact that

01:43:34.180 in England, for example, between 2012 and 2021, there were more British Muslims who

01:43:37.740 served ISIS than served the UK home army.

01:43:39.500 And in terms of numbers, I don't need to double check that.

01:43:43.260 Again, you can fact check it right now.

01:43:44.360 Anyway.

01:43:44.880 So, if you want to talk about Jewish allegiance, even though we fought for America in every

01:43:47.640 single war, but you don't want to talk about the actual point of this debate, which is

01:43:50.920 radical Islam, I think it's a little disingenuous. 1.00

01:43:52.600 No, but then what it shows is radical Judaism, that they're basically serving a foreign nation. 0.83

01:43:55.480 Now, in terms of what you mentioned, I agree with you, by the way, I think immigration

01:43:59.720 is a major issue.

01:44:01.540 And immigration, when you allow a large number of people into the country, it actually harms 1.00

01:44:06.520 the working class.

01:44:07.520 It's the rich billionaire class who want cheap labor into the country. 0.98

01:44:10.480 And then what happens is the working class people, the working class Americans struggle.

01:44:13.280 So, I agree with you about immigration.

01:44:14.600 In terms of your point, in terms of the military, the military, the issue you've got is, from

01:44:19.120 the military perspective, like I said, you've basically ignored the fact that all the money

01:44:22.220 that's been spent on Israel and other issues.

01:44:24.140 In terms of Ukraine, the issue is that you support, and this is the problem that you support 0.63

01:44:28.460 another example of a war that is a military industrial complex war.

01:44:31.660 I'm anti-war.

01:44:32.660 I don't like war whatsoever.

01:44:33.660 I don't want any war, any kind of money going to foreign nations.

01:44:36.500 To be able to do it.

01:44:37.500 A war where, what's happened?

01:44:38.500 Ukraine and Russia, a lot of white people have been, and this is why I'm against it, 1.00

01:44:42.500 right?

01:44:43.500 And another example of where a lot of white people have been dying, right? 0.80

01:44:45.500 Russians are white. 1.00

01:44:46.500 Ukrainians are white. 0.99

01:44:47.500 Both of them are dying. 0.93

01:44:48.500 Military industrial complex war.

01:44:49.500 And you support.

01:44:50.500 Yeah, I don't.

01:44:51.500 And this is where they have another issue.

01:44:52.500 And in terms of, when you look at, for example, America, and you look at, for example, South

01:44:57.700 Arabia, and UAE, and Qatar have given the United States of America trillions of dollars.

01:45:02.500 And despite them giving the US so much money, trillions, they basically make sure, and this

01:45:07.500 is a busy embarrassment for them actually, the fact that they get much worse military

01:45:10.500 equipment than Israel.

01:45:11.500 Israel gets better F-35 than even the Saudis. 0.77

01:45:14.500 Even though Saudi is paying them and Israel is receiving the money, it just shows the dominant

01:45:17.500 control that they have.

01:45:18.500 And in terms of Gaza, I think he made a very astute point, which is this, that in reality,

01:45:23.500 when you look at the number of innocent civilians that have died in Gaza, it is unbelievable.

01:45:28.500 And what Israel has shown through certain specific attacks, and I think that's what he was mentioning,

01:45:32.500 is you look at the Pager attack, or you look at, for example, when Ismail Hania was killed,

01:45:35.500 or you look at, for example, when Hassan Nasrullah was killed.

01:45:37.500 Those were targeted, precise attacks, which showed very good, like, military capability.

01:45:43.500 And yet, we haven't seen the exact same thing in Gaza.

01:45:47.500 And you've seen the disproportionate number.

01:45:49.500 His figure of 87%, as far as I remember, is from the US State Department.

01:45:53.500 He says it right here.

01:45:54.500 Yeah.

01:45:55.500 Let me respond to 84%.

01:45:56.500 Let me respond to it.

01:45:57.500 I actually think that figure's wrong.

01:45:58.500 I'm with you.

01:45:59.500 I think the real figure is-

01:46:00.500 It's much higher.

01:46:01.500 Yeah, it's much higher.

01:46:02.500 It's 98%.

01:46:03.500 When you look at the hundreds, I don't agree with the Hamas, what do you guys call it?

01:46:07.500 The Hamas Gaza numbers, Hamas Ministry Gaza numbers.

01:46:10.500 I think the numbers are much more higher.

01:46:12.500 I think there's certain Lancelot and certain studies that believe it's a lot higher.

01:46:15.500 And I think the numbers are a lot more higher.

01:46:17.500 And I think when I look at the number of civilians that died, never mind died, injured,

01:46:21.500 have been, you know, injured, or even the psychological damage that's happened to them.

01:46:24.500 The millions is just unbelievable.

01:46:26.500 I agree with you that war is bad, but the problem with our mainstream media, for example,

01:46:29.500 is they conflate war and the casualties of war with the genocide.

01:46:32.500 Let me just deconstruct everything you said from one to three.

01:46:35.500 Yeah.

01:46:36.500 First of all, when it comes to the F-35s that the United States is selling the Saudis versus

01:46:39.500 the F-35s the United States is selling the Israelis, they're selling them the exact same F-35s.

01:46:42.500 The difference with the Israelis is because, again, probably because of the military industrial 0.92

01:46:45.500 complex, they're so innovative.

01:46:46.500 They've actually created modifications, improvements, and adaptions to the F-35s.

01:46:49.500 That's true.

01:46:50.500 Again, you can fact check me right now.

01:46:51.500 No, no, no, that's right.

01:46:52.500 That's not the reason they got it.

01:46:53.500 You're conflating two things.

01:46:54.500 Let me make the point and then you can interrupt me.

01:46:55.500 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

01:46:56.500 Come on.

01:46:57.500 Sorry, sorry.

01:46:58.500 No, no, I apologize.

01:46:59.500 The Israelis have made innovations and adaptions to the F-35s. 0.78

01:47:00.500 The Saudis haven't. 1.00

01:47:01.500 Israel is one of the most militaristically adaptive countries on planet Earth.

01:47:05.500 So that's first of all.

01:47:06.500 In terms of the Qatar and Saudi Arabia and UAE have given the United States trillions of

01:47:09.500 dollars.

01:47:10.500 I'm not sure what you mean by that.

01:47:11.500 I mean, we used to buy Saudi oil up until we became energy independent, which is much better 1.00

01:47:14.500 that way.

01:47:15.500 So it's not that they were giving us money.

01:47:16.500 It's also number three in terms about, you know, you hate war so much.

01:47:18.500 Well, Saudi is conducting an actual genocide against the civilians of Yemen.

01:47:21.500 The people of Yemen are experiencing one of the greatest civilian casualties right now

01:47:25.500 on planet Earth.

01:47:26.500 But again, no one talks about it because it doesn't involve Israel, which again, I don't

01:47:28.500 really get this, which brings me to my other point.

01:47:30.500 If you want to talk about civilian death, let's assume of the 60,000 people who were killed

01:47:33.500 in Gaza, let's assume 100% of them are civilians.

01:47:35.500 100%, which isn't true.

01:47:36.500 Let's assume it's 100%.

01:47:37.500 There were more civilians in Sudan who were killed two weeks ago, two weeks ago, who were

01:47:42.500 killed than the entirety of the Gaza-Israel war.

01:47:45.500 If you look at the Gaza-Israel war, it is 100% true. 1.00

01:47:47.500 More civilians were killed in Sudan in one week, two weeks ago, than the last

01:47:51.500 entirety of the Gaza-Israel war since October 7th.

01:47:53.500 If you want to talk about human casualties, if you look at all the wars happening right

01:47:56.500 now, Israel-Gaza doesn't even crack in the top 10.

01:47:59.500 Now, is it a terrible war where civilians are being killed?

01:48:01.500 Absolutely.

01:48:02.500 But it's interesting that the examples you talk about, Ismael Hania, for example, where

01:48:06.500 was Ismael Hania?

01:48:07.500 He was hiding out in a penthouse in Qatar.

01:48:09.500 Where does Hamas hide out?

01:48:11.500 Do they hide out in penthouses in Gaza?

01:48:12.500 Hang on.

01:48:13.500 Excuse me.

01:48:14.500 In Iran, you're right.

01:48:15.500 You're absolutely right.

01:48:16.500 He was killed in Iran, but his base was in Qatar at the Four Seasons before they kicked

01:48:19.500 him out.

01:48:20.500 But you're right.

01:48:21.500 He was killed in Iran.

01:48:22.500 He wasn't kicked out.

01:48:23.500 In a penthouse.

01:48:24.500 How many penthouses are Hamas commanders like Yahweh Sinwar hiding out in?

01:48:26.500 Zero.

01:48:27.500 Which is why, again, you can fact check me all you would like.

01:48:29.500 What do you mean-

01:48:30.500 There is video- I'm telling you.

01:48:31.500 There is video-

01:48:32.500 There is video of Yahweh Sinwar right after they launched the attack on October 7th.

01:48:35.500 Where did he go?

01:48:36.500 He went underground.

01:48:37.500 He went into tunnels with his wife.

01:48:39.500 His wife was actually- she's pretty obese. 1.00

01:48:41.500 She had a Birkin bag with her.

01:48:42.500 And they went into the tunnel system.

01:48:44.500 You know how many Gazan civilians were allowed into the tunnels?

01:48:47.500 Zero.

01:48:48.500 Why?

01:48:49.500 Because- let me make the point.

01:48:50.500 Because as Muhammed Def said explicitly on Al Jazeera shortly after October 7th, the

01:48:54.500 point of the tunnel system and the point of receiving humanitarian aid is in order to

01:48:58.500 ensure the survivability of our fighters.

01:49:01.500 Everything must come at the price of our fighters.

01:49:03.500 Why is it- talking about human agency, for example.

01:49:05.500 We give the Palestinians roughly $700 million in foreign aid every single year.

01:49:09.500 What we get in return, I'm not entirely clear, but we give them about $700 million in foreign

01:49:12.500 aid every single year.

01:49:13.500 Why is it that the populace, the elected government of the populace, Hamas, have not built a single 1.00

01:49:19.500 bomb shelter for their populace?

01:49:21.500 Why is that?

01:49:22.500 Why is it that you have a jihadi death call, talk about radical Islam, who have said explicitly,

01:49:26.500 explicitly, that the ultimate goal is not a two-state solution, which I believe in.

01:49:30.500 I believe in peace and coexistence.

01:49:31.500 I believe Palestinians have a right to self-determination and should have their own country.

01:49:34.500 They don't say that.

01:49:35.500 They say, and again, college campus protesters say this the whole time, we don't want no

01:49:39.500 48.

01:49:40.500 We want all of it.

01:49:41.500 They say this explicitly.

01:49:42.500 Don't listen to me as a right-wing, PragerU, Jew, whatever.

01:49:46.500 Listen to Hamas themselves. 0.97

01:49:48.500 So in terms of the civilian death count, are there civilians being killed?

01:49:51.500 Absolutely.

01:49:52.500 The 84%, the reason I say it's not 84%, is because what that was, it was a study of named

01:49:56.500 combatants.

01:49:57.500 So for example, if you're shooting an RPG at a Golani brigade in Khan Yunus, for example,

01:50:00.500 and they don't know your name, they're not going to write down your name, they're just

01:50:03.500 going to say a terrorist.

01:50:04.500 So what that study said is, oh, well, if we looked at the named combatants, it's only roughly

01:50:08.500 17%.

01:50:09.500 It doesn't mean the people who were killed, 84% of whom were civilians.

01:50:12.500 But again, is there a high civilian death toll?

01:50:14.500 Absolutely.

01:50:15.500 The problem is though, is what you've allowed, if you tell Israel, for example, forget about

01:50:19.500 your hostages, forget about dismantling the jihadi death cult, you can't fight them because, 1.00

01:50:24.500 you know, you'll kill civilians.

01:50:25.500 What you have done is you have now given permission to every single radical Islamist terrorist group, 0.66

01:50:30.500 like Al-Shabaab, like Hamas, like Hezbollah, like the Houthis.

01:50:33.500 What you have now told them is build your terrorist infrastructure underneath hospitals,

01:50:38.500 build them underneath schools because it's safe, it's base, because Western countries are

01:50:42.500 held to a different standard.

01:50:43.500 We can't touch them because it's built underground.

01:50:45.500 I feel horrible for every single dead Gazan. 0.84

01:50:48.500 And I put the blame squarely, squarely on the genocidal death cult who pillaged and burnt 0.98

01:50:54.500 and killed every single Muslim and Jew and Christian they can find. 0.99

01:50:58.500 If you don't want dead civilians, then newsflash, don't invade a sovereign country, 0.98

01:51:03.500 kill 400 civilians at a music festival and then say, well, we're hiding underneath hospitals

01:51:07.500 so you can't get us.

01:51:08.500 That's not how war has ever been fought.

01:51:10.500 No, I'm going to let you respond and then we got 10 minutes and we're all going to do a

01:51:13.500 close statement.

01:51:14.500 But you did see there was an IDF soldier in trial saying that they were told to stand down

01:51:18.500 on October 7th.

01:51:19.500 No.

01:51:20.500 Okay.

01:51:21.500 So I'm glad you brought that up.

01:51:22.500 He brought up the point.

01:51:23.500 Let me talk about it.

01:51:24.500 Let me respond to you first because this is just crazy.

01:51:26.500 No, no, no.

01:51:27.500 You know, you made so many points though.

01:51:28.500 Let me just watch it.

01:51:29.500 No, but that's just, it's not even that important.

01:51:31.500 But the thing is like, look, there's a lot of points you made there.

01:51:34.500 So let me go through it.

01:51:35.500 So first of all, there's been a huge number of civilian casualties.

01:51:38.500 It's definitely not 60,000.

01:51:39.500 In terms of Yahya Senwa, it's interesting.

01:51:41.500 You mentioned Yahya Senwa.

01:51:42.500 How did he actually die?

01:51:43.500 He died on the front lines.

01:51:44.500 Would Netanyahu ever go on the front lines?

01:51:46.500 No, he wouldn't.

01:51:47.500 That's not true.

01:51:48.500 That's not true.

01:51:49.500 Almost everything you said was false.

01:51:52.500 That's not true.

01:51:53.500 And I'll wait for you to finish.

01:51:54.500 Okay, it's categorically not false, but I'll respond after.

01:51:55.500 Almost everything you said was false, but I waited for you to finish.

01:51:57.500 We're not going to have that much time to respond.

01:51:58.500 We've got less than 10 minutes.

01:51:59.500 So let me be clear on this.

01:52:00.500 And in terms of this claim that Gaza could have been brilliant, in reality, what was happening

01:52:04.500 before October the 7th?

01:52:05.500 What would Israel do?

01:52:06.500 They would regularly bomb Gaza.

01:52:08.500 200 people just in the West Bank were killed in 2023 before October the 7th.

01:52:13.500 October the 7th itself was specifically a military operation, which went wrong.

01:52:17.500 There was specifically a directive to get Israeli military personnel and to basically swap them

01:52:22.500 for Palestinian women and children that are held in Israeli prisons without any trial,

01:52:26.500 who are basically hostages. 0.55

01:52:28.500 The real death cult is the Israeli Zionist death cult, which murders, kills, which wants 0.99

01:52:33.500 to go to war, which wants to kill and destroy as many countries as possible. 0.94

01:52:37.500 And in terms of the, for example, the, and by the way, I disagree with Yaya Senwar.

01:52:41.500 I don't think he should have been on the front line.

01:52:43.500 He should have been, for example, in a more safer place, because in reality, you can't

01:52:46.500 have your leadership be decapitated.

01:52:48.500 This is why Netanyahu makes sure he's not on the front line. 0.97

01:52:50.500 He makes sure why his son's in Florida.

01:52:52.500 In reality, when you look at these people in Qatar, they were there specifically based

01:52:57.500 on the directive of Obama for negotiations.

01:53:00.500 And when you look at specifically, they weren't living in, this is just New York Post, which

01:53:05.500 is completely Zionist controlled, who literally make this claim that they were so rich billionaires.

01:53:09.500 There's no evidence whatsoever that they were billionaires.

01:53:11.500 They were living very, very simple lives.

01:53:13.500 They didn't even give any money.

01:53:14.500 They didn't, the children didn't inherit anything.

01:53:17.500 And many of their children, for example, Ismail Hanya, many of his children, grandchildren

01:53:21.500 also died in Gaza.

01:53:23.500 In terms of, the reason why Gaza was never rebuilt is because of a regular bombing by Israel,

01:53:29.500 regular destruction by Israel, even before October the 7th, ensuring that basically Israel 0.85

01:53:34.500 had control over the land, sea and air.

01:53:37.500 If you don't have access to your own ports, if you haven't got access to your own, basically

01:53:41.500 ports, you haven't got access to your own borders, you don't have a land, Israel decided

01:53:45.500 what went in and what went out.

01:53:47.500 Even before October the 7th, they had them almost on a calorie diet.

01:53:50.500 They never used to allow much stuff in there.

01:53:52.500 Never mind the fact that when you look at specifically within Gaza, it's not about the tunnels.

01:53:56.500 You saw, for example, specifically Palestinians being killed.

01:54:00.500 You saw situations where there was gunshots to the head, gunshots to the heart of children.

01:54:04.500 Children were being murdered.

01:54:05.500 Children have been assassinated.

01:54:06.500 This was a direct attempt to eradicate the entire population.

01:54:09.500 And the reason is, and you mentioned Al-Shabaab, it's quite interesting you mentioned Al-Shabaab

01:54:12.500 because Al-Shabaab is again, someone who has allegiance to Israel.

01:54:16.500 They were against Hamas.

01:54:17.500 They were basically very, and if you look at the clans within Gaza that are against Hamas,

01:54:23.500 they specifically are not against Israel.

01:54:25.500 So as an example, the Dogmash clan, which you probably know about, they basically had

01:54:30.500 taken a hostage, a British hostage, a British reporter's hostage.

01:54:34.500 And what happened?

01:54:35.500 Hamas negotiated his exit.

01:54:37.500 And what that reporter said was, I was really astounded.

01:54:40.500 These people live in Gaza, but they don't, they're not against Israel.

01:54:43.500 They're against UK.

01:54:44.500 And so it kind of shows you the psychology of these extremists within there.

01:54:47.500 How for some reason you're in Gaza, you're basically being occupied.

01:54:50.500 And for some reason against it.

01:54:52.500 Also in terms of these claims about tunnels being under hospitals and mosques and these

01:54:56.500 type of things in Gaza, this has all been debunked.

01:54:58.500 There was these claims where this guy, the Harari, I believe his name is, or Higazi.

01:55:02.500 He basically goes and he goes to a calendar and he's like, oh, look, this is the, this is his shifts.

01:55:06.500 These are the shifts of the Hamas members.

01:55:07.500 And it ended up being a calendar in Arabic, which said Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

01:55:11.500 Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

01:55:12.500 So all of this is propaganda.

01:55:13.500 And you know who actually uses human shields?

01:55:15.500 Israel, who has a Mossad headquarters in the center of Israel.

01:55:19.500 Who all, who actually uses human shields is Israel, where they have military bases very

01:55:24.500 close to the human population.

01:55:25.500 And they did.

01:55:26.500 All your points go back to Israel. 0.82

01:55:27.500 I did handle the directive.

01:55:28.500 But we're about to have to do a closing statement.

01:55:30.500 Because we're talking about Israel.

01:55:31.500 I'm debunking his points.

01:55:32.500 All you've talked about the whole time is Israel.

01:55:33.500 We're here to talk about Islam in America.

01:55:34.500 And you're talking about Israel every chance you get.

01:55:36.500 Yeah.

01:55:37.500 No, because I'm debunking his points.

01:55:38.500 Well, to be fair, you brought up Israel.

01:55:39.500 But can I respond to all those points?

01:55:41.500 Let's start by closing arguments.

01:55:42.500 Okay.

01:55:43.500 First of all, Beau, why don't you start by giving your closing argument and then we'll

01:55:47.500 go to Shabbos and we'll let you have the last words.

01:55:49.500 Cool.

01:55:50.500 Yeah.

01:55:51.500 We'll talk about Islam in America and the threat to our culture. 1.00

01:55:54.500 And this whole conversation is just devolved into, you know, a defense or attack against

01:55:59.500 Israel or Gaza or whatever.

01:56:01.500 And it's just, this is not relevant to most Americans.

01:56:03.500 Most Americans are worried about what's happening in America.

01:56:05.500 And that's what the last election was for.

01:56:07.500 That's what Donald Trump has been focused on.

01:56:08.500 That's what the America first movement is about.

01:56:10.500 We need to be focused on America.

01:56:12.500 And, you know, to your point earlier, of course, if we're going to act anywhere else in the

01:56:18.500 world, it should be for the interests of America.

01:56:20.500 I'm not against action elsewhere in the world, but I'm against forever wars.

01:56:23.500 And I think most of the Republicans who voted for Donald Trump also feel the same way.

01:56:27.500 But, you know, we need to be focusing on what is happening here in the destruction of

01:56:31.500 our culture.

01:56:32.500 I mean, I'm tired of just watching it happen in real time and no one is talking about it.

01:56:36.500 Everyone wants to talk about something else or blame somebody else.

01:56:39.500 It's our responsibility here.

01:56:41.500 We have primary elections this year.

01:56:43.500 I say go out and vote for the people who are going to fight for an America first agenda.

01:56:49.500 Predominantly, I mean, that is the most important thing that we can focus on right now.

01:56:54.500 And, you know, this this allowing third worlders to come in and bring their centuries old, 1.00

01:56:58.500 you know, blood feuds into our country.

01:57:00.500 I'm sorry.

01:57:01.500 It's just time we we put that aside and we focus on what's best for Americans.

01:57:06.500 Sure.

01:57:07.500 I mean, all the claims you made are demonstrably false.

01:57:10.500 But that's this is for a different podcast for a different time.

01:57:12.500 The reason I responded about Israel is because you brought up Israel first, which brings me

01:57:16.500 to my real point, which is what Bo just said.

01:57:18.500 I agree.

01:57:19.500 Hate Israel as much as you want. 1.00

01:57:20.500 Hate Jews as much as you want. 1.00

01:57:21.500 Hate Bibi as much as you want. 0.99

01:57:22.500 That's not going to improve your life in any measurable way.

01:57:24.500 There are real threats facing Western civilization.

01:57:26.500 The demoralization of young people is part of that.

01:57:28.500 Another threat, a critical threat, is that we have pockets of individuals, primarily from Muslim dominated countries, 1.00

01:57:35.500 who do not assimilate into our Western way of life, who commit on a perverse and discriminant level,

01:57:39.500 disproportionately more amounts of fraud, cannot speak English.

01:57:42.500 In fact, in Somalia, there was a lawyer two years ago after Somalia Muslim was convicted of fraud.

01:57:46.500 And the defense literally was, well, in his culture, it's not considered taboo to steal from your government.

01:57:51.500 Jews aren't making those arguments in court.

01:57:53.500 Christians aren't making that argument in court. 0.94

01:57:55.500 But unfortunately, a significant amount of the Muslim American community, they are making that argument in court.

01:58:00.500 The second thing, which I think is really fundamental, is I agree with you.

01:58:03.500 There are attacks on free speech.

01:58:05.500 It's coming from many different directions.

01:58:07.500 So let me be absolutely clear.

01:58:08.500 Free speech is the pinnacle of our society.

01:58:11.500 It's why it is the First Amendment and not the 37th Amendment.

01:58:13.500 It is the First Amendment and you can and should be able to hate as many people as you like.

01:58:18.500 I don't think it's a very good strategy for doing well in life, but you have the legal right to do it.

01:58:22.500 There is no such thing as hate speech.

01:58:24.500 It doesn't exist.

01:58:25.500 Hate speech is free speech.

01:58:27.500 You can say the N-word.

01:58:28.500 You could call me a kike.

01:58:29.500 Again, I don't recommend it.

01:58:30.500 I think it's just not a good person.

01:58:31.500 But legally, you can and you should and you are absolutely able to be able to say it.

01:58:36.500 The criticism somehow that Jews or Zionists or whatever language you're using are attacking free speech,

01:58:41.500 are trying to censor people.

01:58:44.500 That has been true, not with Zionism, but the way X was handled when it was run by leftists.

01:58:48.500 X, thank God for Elon Musk, is a bastion of free speech.

01:58:52.500 It's also a bastion of disinformation, but that's a different problem.

01:58:54.500 And it should remain that way, which is why when you go on Twitter, for example,

01:58:58.500 the only thing people seem to obsess about is Israel, which brings me to what Bo was saying.

01:59:02.500 I think Israel, kind of like transgenderism, reminds me of Roman emperors or the Colosseum, 1.00

01:59:07.500 where they would say, yeah, there are major problems facing our society,

01:59:10.500 but let's just have the populace watch lions tear our soldiers apart because that'll distract them. 1.00

01:59:15.500 I think Israel's a distraction. 0.99

01:59:16.500 I think the trans stuff is a distraction. 1.00

01:59:18.500 I think sports betting is kind of a distraction.

01:59:20.500 We have real major issues in our country, but unfortunately only like two or three issues are ever discussed

01:59:26.500 because it's red meat and this is going to blow up online.

01:59:28.500 Meanwhile, our communities of Christian Bible-believing Americans are being, yes,

01:59:34.500 invaded by a radical minority of people who do not share our views, who do not share our values.

01:59:39.500 And I think you and I have a lot in common because we believe in the West.

01:59:42.500 We believe in American emancipation and American values.

01:59:44.500 But so many people we're bringing into our country don't, which brings me to my last point.

01:59:48.500 Just yesterday, a federal district court ruled that he was improper to have released Mahmoud Khalil

01:59:53.500 and he needs to be re-detained.

01:59:54.500 And you can bookmark this. 0.86

01:59:56.500 He will be deported back to Syria or Alger, wherever the hell he came from. 1.00

01:59:59.500 We'll see.

02:00:00.500 It has nothing to do with speech.

02:00:01.500 It has to do with the fact that he lied on his visa application.

02:00:03.500 It has to do with the fact that he was the head of the Columbia University Apartheid Investment Coalition,

02:00:07.500 which forget about the fact that they handed out pamphlets to friends of mine on Columbia's campus

02:00:11.500 encouraging support for Hamas.

02:00:13.500 Forget about the fact they called for the eradication of Western civilization.

02:00:16.500 They organized the riot of Hamilton Hall, where they took two Hispanic maintenance workers hostage.

02:00:21.500 In fact, one of the maintenance workers is now suing Columbia University.

02:00:24.500 They sent police officers to the hospital.

02:00:26.500 They defaced and trespassed on private property.

02:00:29.500 The fundamental issue with Mahmoud Khalil, which is indicative of a much larger problem. 0.99

02:00:33.500 How in the fuck did Mahmoud Khalil get into this country? 0.97

02:00:37.500 How is he a net positive in any measurable way? 0.99

02:00:40.500 And we have a crazy broken immigration system.

02:00:43.500 Thank God Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, Kirstie Noem are trying to reform this.

02:00:47.500 But we have to really ask ourselves, who are we letting in? 0.65

02:00:50.500 Why are we letting them in? 0.99

02:00:52.500 And are they going to be a net positive to our country?

02:00:54.500 There are many Muslims and many Jews and many Christians from different countries who are net positives. 1.00

02:00:59.500 But unfortunately, there is a disproportionate amount of individuals coming from Muslim majority nations who are not net positives.

02:01:06.500 Mahmoud Khalil, Mehdi Hassan, the list goes on.

02:01:08.500 And I'm going to give you two minutes, but it is kind of weird that the 9-11 terrorists got citizenship after they died.

02:01:13.500 Okay, go ahead.

02:01:14.500 Two minutes because we're about to end the show.

02:01:16.500 Okay, so just to respond.

02:01:17.500 First of all, I agree with you that there needs to be a focus on America and hence why you see in the Republican Party a big split.

02:01:23.500 It's America first or Israel first. 0.98

02:01:25.500 And that has completely been demonstrated in terms of the Republican Party.

02:01:28.500 And I think what the Republican Party needs to move to is an America first model, which isn't going to war for foreign nations.

02:01:34.500 Now, in terms of specifically what you said, one of the biggest problems we have with these extreme radical Zionists is the fact that they are destroying American values. 0.90

02:01:42.500 But it's just that politicians know that they can't speak about it because they won't get elected.

02:01:46.500 And so in reality, if you look at this direct attack on free speech, you look at, for example, let's take Mahmoud Khalil as an example.

02:01:52.500 Mahmoud Khalil, he didn't partake in any kind of extremist act.

02:01:57.500 He didn't support any kind of extremist organization.

02:02:00.500 Marco Rubio was quite clear that the reason he's been deported is because of foreign influence or foreign reasons.

02:02:06.500 In addition to that, the claims made about him working for UNRWA, he was working for UNRWA as an unpaid intern or whoever it is.

02:02:12.500 So in reality, he didn't.

02:02:14.500 This is just basically what happened to Mahmoud Khalil in Colombia was he was doing Shabbat dinners with Jews. 0.77

02:02:19.500 So he didn't hear Jews. He was basically the negotiator between the university and the students.

02:02:23.500 What's more American than that?

02:02:24.500 Basically negotiating with people discussing and dealing with issues.

02:02:26.500 The only reason Mahmoud Khalil was taken out was because free speech, because they want to end any kind of conversation in universities.

02:02:32.500 Same thing happened to Ramesh Oztak, same thing happened to Muhammad Tal, same thing happened to many other students.

02:02:36.500 And worse than that, what they did was, and this is the worst thing because universities are the place where you can disagree,

02:02:42.500 where ideas and thoughts are made, and then people learn them and then people progress.

02:02:45.500 And then you change your ideas and views. You mentioned you were left-wing and then you became right-wing.

02:02:49.500 So people change their views and ideas through university.

02:02:51.500 The thing is, what happened?

02:02:53.500 Because of the Zionist control of the United States of America, where First Amendment has been hammered inside the United States of America, 0.92

02:02:58.500 they basically deployed the IHRA definition in universities for universities to get funding, or for universities to get any kind of support,

02:03:05.500 or for universities not to be harmed by the US administration.

02:03:08.500 They have to deploy the IHRA definition.

02:03:10.500 What is the IHRA definition, you may ask?

02:03:12.500 It is basically, if you say that the Jews killed Jesus, you will be expelled from university.

02:03:16.500 You're not allowed to be studied.

02:03:17.500 If you believe that, basically, certain Jewish people have dual loyalty, like for example, I do believe anyone who serves IDF has dual loyalty, you will be deported. 0.57

02:03:24.500 If you believe that, for example, Israel, the rules for Israel is different to another country, these are just dialogues we have.

02:03:29.500 We just had a dialogue now, I think we respect, we don't hate each other, we don't dislike each other, we disagree with each other.

02:03:33.500 But why would that if I was in university, I would not be suspended, I would be expelled.

02:03:36.500 This is the way of controlling people's minds.

02:03:38.500 This is creating the chilling effect, the fear in the hearts of Americans that if you speak against them, if you speak against these radical people, that you will be expelled, you won't have a career.

02:03:46.500 You saw the doxing of these students, what happened in, I can't remember what university was Harvard.

02:03:50.500 With doxing of these students, their careers were taken away, their job applications were taken away.

02:03:53.500 This is to say that, look, either you comply, you don't have First Amendment rights, you can't speak, you can't think.

02:03:59.500 If you are, you will be removed from the United States of America, you'll be deported, you'll be suspended from university.

02:04:03.500 And now you're seeing this massive push towards, you know, for example, within social media, you look at the head of Mehta, who said that they want to basically clamp down on anti-Semitism.

02:04:12.500 There's this specific attack against anti-Semitism, but if you look at it, people attack Islam all the time.

02:04:17.500 People can make reason of attacking Islam, no problem whatsoever. 0.83

02:04:20.500 But when it comes to one specific group, it's not like that, and I think that there should be a consistency.

02:04:24.500 Well, you're talking about Israeli terrorism, but you're too scared to talk about that.

02:04:27.500 But the thing is, all I want is consistency, and this is what we saw today, there wasn't consistency.

02:04:33.500 That's the only thing I ask for.

02:04:34.500 If whatever rules you apply, well, I'm going to respond then.

02:04:37.500 Just have 30 seconds because the crew's got to go, we've got to go.

02:04:40.500 30 seconds.

02:04:41.500 And then we'll all get some beers.

02:04:44.500 No, we'll come back tomorrow.

02:04:45.500 Exactly.

02:04:46.500 Shabbat, Shabbat, Haram, there you go. 0.99

02:04:48.500 Very, very quickly, first of all, the idea that anti-Semitism is not a thing on the internet.

02:04:51.500 Again, go on Twitter right now, the only thing that people obsess about is hating Israel.

02:04:55.500 We spoke about America, but you keep bringing up Israel.

02:04:58.500 I don't care about Israel. 0.98

02:04:59.500 I agree with you.

02:05:00.500 I just want to mention the college campuses very, very quickly.

02:05:02.500 In 2023, there was a Supreme Court case brought by Asian American students against Harvard University.

02:05:06.500 It turned out that Harvard University was actually ranking Asian American applicants based on their personalities.

02:05:10.500 During the Supreme Court hearing, which was Students for Fair Admissions, it also turned out during the discovery process that Harvard University was de-ranking white Christian men in support of blacks and Hispanics.

02:05:20.500 So there was documented cases of actual civil rights violations perpetrated by Harvard University.

02:05:24.500 We sued Harvard University over their civil rights violations under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.

02:05:28.500 We were allowed by a judge, particularly discrimination against Jewish Americans.

02:05:32.500 We were allowed by a judge based on the facts that we were presenting to actually go to trial.

02:05:35.500 The first case of its kind pertained to the discrimination of Jewish Americans on a college campus to be allowed to go to trial.

02:05:39.500 So the idea that Harvard University, which was discriminating against Asian Americans, which was discriminating against white Christian men, which was also discriminating against Jewish Americans, is somehow clamping down on free speech.

02:05:49.500 Harvard University was ranked by the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expressions four years ago, 248th out of 248 American universities when it came to free speech.

02:05:56.500 This is an institution that disinvites controversial speakers who are deemed transphobic.

02:06:00.500 This is an institution that demoted an African-American professor for coming out against Black Lives Matter.

02:06:04.500 This is an institution that unenrolled 12 admitted students when it turned out they had posted a sexist meme in a private WhatsApp group.

02:06:09.500 So are there attacks on free speech? Absolutely.

02:06:11.500 But the people who are fighting back against it are people like me, are pro-America, America first Jews who say that the pattern of silencing and the pattern of attacking the First Amendment right is insanity. 0.98

02:06:20.500 And for the millionth fucking time, people can and should criticize Jews in Israel as much as you freaking want.

02:06:26.500 But the idea that somehow Harvard University or any of these institutions of higher learning, which are impediments or indicative of crony capitalism, were in any way interested in free speech or liberalism. 0.99

02:06:36.500 No, it is political indoctrination where students take it from me. I was there.

02:06:39.500 Students are being told to hate the United States, to hate Western civilization.

02:06:43.500 And everything you said about Mahmoud Khalil is demonstrably not true. He violated the law.

02:06:46.500 And if you think this is some Zionist attack, then you're going to have to explain why three courts thus far have all said, yes, he has violated the law.

02:06:53.500 Okay. So just coming back to you. By the way, I agree with what you said, by the way, and you demonstrated the issue.

02:06:58.500 So Harvard did basically oppress Asian-Americans. They did oppress white Christians. 0.63

02:07:03.500 There was no court case against them. There was no defunding of them. When did it all happen?

02:07:06.500 It happened when this guy, when these guys basically took Harvard University to court based on the discrimination against them.

02:07:12.500 That's not true. People are the best attorneys.

02:07:14.500 You know what I mean?

02:07:15.500 And so in reality, that's what it is. And Harvard University, I agree with you.

02:07:19.500 I think these institutes are too big. They have too much money. You see it, for example, Harvard University, how much did they give?

02:07:24.500 They give $150 million to book an institute, which promotes a...

02:07:28.500 Exactly. You know what I'm talking about?

02:07:29.500 They get $6 billion from Qatar.

02:07:30.500 Yeah. So in reality...

02:07:31.500 No, again, that's not true. Because what happens is... By the way, I'm against Qatar. 0.61

02:07:34.500 So this doesn't work on me because I think Qatar is in alliance with...

02:07:36.500 But when you only focus on one...

02:07:37.500 No, no.

02:07:38.500 Go ahead.

02:07:39.500 In terms of Qatar, the reason they've got that money, that money is specifically to put American institutes in Qatar.

02:07:44.500 That's true.

02:07:45.500 But that being said, I don't even like Qatar.

02:07:46.500 Qatar, I agree with you.

02:07:47.500 Qatar should be defunded because Qatar is in alliance with Israel and they all work together. 1.00

02:07:51.500 That's why they're hosting Hamas in Doha? 0.85

02:07:53.500 Yeah.

02:07:54.500 Based on the instruction in the United States of America.

02:07:55.500 And so in terms of basically coming back to the universities, yes, Mahmoud Khalil did not break any law.

02:08:01.500 That's why Marco Rubio in his document...

02:08:04.500 Tell that to three US court judges. 0.83

02:08:05.500 I'm going to explain to you.

02:08:06.500 So he literally said that no crime was committed.

02:08:10.500 In reality, what it was is Rubio did it.

02:08:11.500 The judges have all said he's committed a crime.

02:08:13.500 Yeah, the judges...

02:08:14.500 One judge basically went with him.

02:08:15.500 Three! 1.00

02:08:16.500 Three courts!

02:08:17.500 And one Paul went with him.

02:08:18.500 But of course, because the Zionists control things. 1.00

02:08:19.500 What?

02:08:20.500 Back to Zion. 0.92

02:08:21.500 I just want to say that I believe that everybody...

02:08:22.500 Zionists in America, you may not know this because you're too focused on Islam.

02:08:25.500 ...has the right to protest, even if you're an illegal immigrant.

02:08:27.500 So, you know, that's kind of where I'm at.

02:08:28.500 And I just want to make this one point because we do have to wrap things up.

02:08:31.500 I love all my Jewish brothers and sisters.

02:08:32.500 Sometimes I disagree with some of the stuff that Israel does, but sometimes I disagree with

02:08:35.500 some of the stuff America does.

02:08:36.500 So that's where I'm at.

02:08:37.500 And when it comes to Islam, I think actually most Islamists are not actually violent.

02:08:41.500 There are some that are violent.

02:08:42.500 They give the rest a bad name.

02:08:43.500 So really, I think it comes down to social engineering that's meant to make us, you know,

02:08:47.500 pit us against each other.

02:08:49.500 So that's why I disagree with it.

02:08:50.500 And I think we need to find some common ground and love one another.

02:08:53.500 And with all that being said, Shabbat Kestenbaum, we got Suleiman Ahmed, Beau French,

02:08:58.500 I'm Alex Stein.

02:08:59.500 This has been The Culture War, and I know these guys need a round two.

02:09:02.500 Are you guys going to have a round two?

02:09:03.500 Let's do it.

02:09:04.500 You guys need to have a round two. 0.97

02:09:05.500 Friendly round two.

02:09:06.500 We get along.

02:09:07.500 Make sure to like, subscribe, share some clips.

02:09:08.500 We love you.

02:09:09.500 God bless Israel.

02:09:10.500 Thank you for my $7,000.

02:09:11.500 Peace, guys.

02:09:32.500 Bye.

02:09:33.500 Bye.

02:10:02.500 Bye.

02:10:03.500 Bye.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - January 16, 2026

DEBATE： Islam Is TAKING OVER the West, America Is A CHRISTIAN NATION w⧸ Alex Stein, Sulaiman Ahmed, Shabbos Kestenbaum, Bo French

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