In this episode of The Culture War, the guys debate whether or not Iran should be nuked by the United States. They are joined by the one and only Shavuos Kestenbaum, who is not a fan of Islam, and the villain, Suleiman Ahmad.
00:18:59.680So that's why all I care about is the practicalities.
00:19:02.460I care how I, as a Jewish person, as an American, will be impacted.
00:19:05.680So whether the Koran or the Hadith is superior, it doesn't really matter.
00:19:08.240All I care about is there is a disproportionate amount, unfortunately, of Muslims, not all Muslims, obviously, but of many Muslims who will use theological justifications to kill other people.
00:19:21.280So if you want to talk about, well, the Hebrew Bible has verses that are definitely incompatible with Western civilization, one, I would disagree with you.
00:19:26.700But even if that's the case, which it isn't, it's kind of irrelevant because, as I said from the get-go, American Jews aren't committing terrorist attacks.
00:19:34.260White Christian Americans are not committing terrorist attacks.
00:19:36.860But unfortunately, we are seeing that way too many Muslims are coming into the United States who are not interested in assimilation, who are not interested in adopting Western democracy, and unfortunately, take violence as a political or religious necessity.
00:19:52.320And to deny that is to deny reality itself.
00:19:54.600And the last point I want to make is I'm not entirely sure what you meant when you said Jews open the door for the Crusaders because we have a lot of fast days, which, again, you're more than welcome to be Jewish.
00:20:03.040But trust me, you don't want to be because, like, half the year, we're just abstaining from eating and drinking.
00:20:07.040One of the fast days is when we fast over the Crusades because they were awful.
00:20:10.800I mean, the communities of Maines and Worms across Europe were decimated by the Crusaders.
00:20:14.980So the idea that we would open the door for the Crusaders is just divorced from reality.
00:20:49.880But you wouldn't really know that because the Arab colonization was one of the greatest colonization experiments in human history, which is why they're now all over the world.
00:23:06.620Okay, so in terms of, so I mentioned his point.
00:23:09.020And the second verse, what was the second verse you mentioned?
00:23:11.620The third one you mentioned, that is specifically Surah 9, verse 23 or 30-something, where it is.
00:23:17.440That's specifically talking about in a time of war.
00:23:19.620So in a time of war, what the issue was is at that time, the Muslims didn't want to fight because what happened was the pagans, because it was Muslims who gave sanctuary to the Muslims at that time.
00:23:31.940It was the Christian king of Abyssinia who, when they went to find sanctuary because the pagans were going to kill them, they read the Muslim view of Mary because the Muslim view of Mary is very positive.
00:23:43.400And so when he read it, he was like, wow, this is amazing.
00:23:45.800This is the same as the biblical view, unlike the view in Judaism in terms of Mary.
00:23:51.200So that specifically is talking about when there was a war between the pagans and the non-Muslims, what was happening was they were, because they knew each other before, and then they became this kind of animosity because, you know, Muslims and pagans, the pagans were trying to eradicate the Muslims.
00:24:05.360And so therefore, what it was is, look, they're fighting you, they're killing you in the battle.
00:24:29.820I think what we've just witnessed is, you know, the dishonesty of trying to frame Islam as something peaceful and not what it actually is.
00:24:39.340But we actually have a track record that we can point to.
00:24:42.200We actually have people, even in Texas, where I live, we have mosques that are preaching this very thing, talking about how they're going to make everybody submit.
00:24:52.700And which is, isn't that what Islam means, submit?
00:26:06.500What happened was that Jewish people found themselves in a situation where the mantra never again.
00:26:11.060And I believe that what they did was they didn't expand physically because Judaism, unlike Christianity and Islam, although he can deny it,
00:26:17.000is in both those religions evangelize.
00:26:56.000So expansion has happened, of course, in the past.
00:26:58.840Obviously, I don't believe that was part of Christianity.
00:27:00.980I believe that these people expanded, going against the faith, even though one may argue that these were very religious Protestant Christians.
00:27:09.120And similarly with Islam, I believe that it happened.
00:27:11.580But I don't believe that it followed the edicts of Islam.
00:27:13.540In terms of just the last point, because there's so many points that have been made.
00:27:16.040When you said that you don't find someone with a kippur blowing someone up or whatever it may be, the difference is, first of all, there is extremism, right?
00:27:29.680Some of that was done because of propagation of this extreme elements within Islam.
00:27:34.100For example, Wahhabi Islam or extreme Salafist Islam, which is propagated and promoted by the allies of the United States of America, like Saudi and UAE, whose views I don't agree with.
00:28:12.880They're going to get someone else to fight.
00:28:13.940They're going to get another person to fight.
00:28:15.380They're going to get other countries to go to war.
00:28:17.140They're going to do it in a different way because they're a lot more smarter in that perspective.
00:28:22.480So let me respond because there are a lot of accusations being made.
00:28:24.900Again, if you want to make the claim that Jews who wear keepers in the United States aren't blowing themselves up because they'll get Muslims to blow themselves up, you're going to have to substantiate.
00:28:35.040So you're going to have to substantiate the claim that American Jews and, like, which American Jews are paying and who specifically are they paying to blow themselves up?
00:28:44.240The premise of this debate, again, was not theological differences, although I am happy to get into theological debate.
00:28:49.900We can talk about how in 628 CE, Muhammad led his army into Saudi Arabia to kill the entire Jewish community, which is why even today you had, when all the Jewish hostages were being released in Gaza, Haiber Haiber Al-Yehud, which is a chant they're still saying today.
00:29:02.580But I don't really want to get into that, but we can if you want.
00:29:04.480All I'm saying is irrespective of the theological differences, what matters are the practical political ramifications.
00:29:09.240All I care about is that today the reason we have such a large refugee crisis is because countries, predominantly Islamic countries in the Middle East, are failed states.
00:29:17.620The reason we're talking about regime change is because there's a country called Iran, the Islamic regime of Iran, that will kill you.
00:29:23.980Laws on the books right now that if you convert to a different religion, they will kill you.
00:29:27.760You know what Judaism's answer is if you convert to another religion?
00:29:30.440Well, unfortunately, intermarriage is like one of the problems facing Judaism.
00:29:34.320There's no consequences to intermarriage, which, again, theologically, it's a bit problematic.
00:29:38.880But politically, no, there's zero consequences because we believe—
00:29:49.720And again, we even hear cases in the United States where communities that have a tremendous problem with assimilation, you have honor killings because people are converting or they're leaving.
00:29:57.760They're leaving the religion of Islam entirely.
00:29:59.040So whether that's based on a true or authentic interpretation of the Koran, who the hell cares?
00:30:03.280All I care about is that people are actually being killed by radical Muslims, which brings me to my last point, and then I'll shut up, which is to say this.
00:30:11.060This is one of the problems I have with Israel-Gaza, and I'm happy to get into that debate later, which is to say this.
00:30:16.240Judaism believes, and Western philosophy believes this as well, that all human beings, whether you're a Muslim, whether you're a Jew, whether you're a Christian, it doesn't matter.
00:30:23.720You are born with human agency, and you can make choices in life.
00:30:26.840And the only person who is responsible—this is actually what Dennis Prager of Prager U taught me—the only person who is responsible for the choices in your life is you.
00:30:34.680You have the ultimate authority to decide what your life will end up looking like.
00:30:38.720And to simply say, and this goes back to your point, that the reason that there is Islamic terrorism is because something the Jews or something Israel or something that they experienced makes something of your life.
00:30:47.780After World War II, which actually was a genocide, where 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, and I know everyone on Twitter is going to say, 271, you can't bake cookies or whatever.
00:31:00.700The point being, the Jewish response was not to pillage-rape German women in Germany and Poland and Hungary and Ukraine.
00:31:07.300The response was to make something of their life.
00:31:09.520So when you talk about the disproportionate amount of Jews in politics or in media, it's not a conspiracy.
00:31:14.620It actually is based in reality that Jews believe tremendously in the power of education, that you have to have professional success, that you have to build a better life for your community.
00:31:23.240And again, I wish all peoples—Muslims, Christians, blacks—they would take that approach as well.
00:31:27.960There are actually Jewish organizations in the United States today.
00:31:30.320They're not very successful, but they will actually try to the best of their ability to get Jewish kids out of public school into Jewish day schools.
00:31:37.400And I wish, I would hope, that Muslim communities in America and Christian communities in America did the same thing.
00:31:44.100Christian parents should be teaching their kids the values of Christianity.
00:31:47.740They should be sending their kids to Christian day schools.
00:31:49.760America would be such a much better country if more Christians went to church, if more Christians went to Bible.
00:31:56.440And unfortunately, let's call a spade a spade, leaving aside theology on a practical matter.
00:32:01.100There is a disproportionate and significant amount of Muslims in America, and Muslim leadership in particular, who do not believe in the things I just said.
00:32:08.960Well, I just want to make this one point, though.
00:32:18.020Okay, so why is it that all the young people, like iShowSpeed, the biggest, you know, live streamer that there is right now, is free Palestine?
00:32:26.020You know, if radical Islam is so dangerous, why would you say the majority of people under 30 support Palestine?
00:32:50.940But I am begging you, do not listen to people, whether they're on the right or the left, who tell you that no one is going to, you know, fuck you if you don't take crystal meth and look a certain way.
00:32:59.700No one is going to give you a job if you don't denounce Israel.
00:33:03.680The only arbiter of whether you will have a successful life is you.
00:33:07.520Stop listening to low-IQ, mentally challenged podcasters or individuals on the Twitterverse who are telling you that the reason your life sucks is because something's something to Jews.
00:33:16.320And again, hate us as much as you want.
00:33:19.060But I'm so deeply concerned about the demoralization of young people in America, which is why Charlie Kirk was such an incredible human being, not because he supported Israel, not because he liked Jews, but because he told people, you will be a better person if you get married and have kids and find Jesus.
00:33:31.460And as an Orthodox Jew, I am telling you, that is the best antidote to the crap that young people are experiencing today.
00:33:38.200Why are young people so heavily medicated?
00:33:40.080Why are they disproportionately depressed and have anxiety?
00:33:42.100It's because they don't have Jesus in their life.
00:33:53.280Hate Israel as much as you want, but please, for the love of God, like, go to church.
00:33:56.520In terms of why so many young people are into this, look, I know this is going to be clipped online and you're going to take this out of context, but let's call a spade a spade.
00:34:03.760ByteDance is a subsidiary of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:34:05.920The Chinese Communist Party on record has stated that it would be a good thing for their long-term foreign policy to have young Americans not only hate Israel and hate the Jews, but to hate the West, to distrust American institutions, to distrust the system at large.
00:34:17.980And one of the best points of that is the flashpoint of Israel-Palestine, which is why you had millions of young Americans, particularly on college campuses like at Harvard where I was, who were talking about freeing Palestine and supporting Hamas.
00:34:28.720And not a single person is interested in supporting the Iranian people as they are also being gunned down in the streets chanting for the exact same rights that I believe Palestinians should have in Gaza as well.
00:34:38.820And the last point I'll make, and then I promise I'll stop talking, which is to say this, at Harvard, at Columbia, at Yale, at Penn, at UCLA, all across American institutions of higher learning, we have been fed a diet of political indoctrination of diversity, equity, inclusion, that the world is comprised of two categories, the oppressed and the oppressors.
00:34:52.840And you have carte blanche freedom if you are the oppressed to do whatever it is you would like to rid yourself of that oppression, which is why Luigi Mangione, who shot and killed Brian Thompson, the UnitedHealthcare CEO, in broad daylight, every single age demographic in this country condemns what he did with one exception, 18 to 24-year-olds.
00:35:08.240Why? Because he was oppressed. He had back problems. So he has the freedom, he has the moral obligation to rid himself of that oppression, which is why you can show my classmates at Harvard, you can show young people the most horrific images of October 7th.
00:35:19.700It will not move them in any measurable way, because even though Israel is roughly two-thirds Middle Eastern, so it's not a white country at all, Israel has the misappropriation, has the stereotype of being a white country.
00:35:29.960And if you're white, you're part of the oppressor class. So Israel will always be the oppressor. They can never do anything right.
00:35:35.800A lot of it has to do with these binary DEI. And again, I'm happy to get into a debate of Israel-Gaza, but that's my general consensus, leaving aside Israel-Gaza, that young people are too often put into these stupid binaries of literally black versus white, which is why you have these insane, dumb, white, liberal women who are, you know, trying to run over ICE officers to save their illegal immigrant Somali Muslim friend. It's insanity.
00:35:58.940Okay. I'm going to get through that. So the first thing is, in terms of people having autonomy, of course, every human has autonomy. But as you mentioned, you work for PragerU. One of the things PragerU does is funds a lot of money, spends a lot of money, hence why you work for them, is to propagate information because they believe that they'll be able to influence people.
00:36:17.940So this idea that people are not influenced is removing a key category of-
00:36:23.440Can I have 10 seconds to respond to that before we move on to the next point? That's literally what every single human being on planet Earth does. That's the reason we're on this podcast, because in the marketplace of ideas, obviously, I want to influence people because I think I'm right. Obviously, you want to influence people because you think you're right.
00:36:34.460So obviously, PragerU does that, the Daily Wire.
00:36:42.100No, because you said each person has autonomy to make their own decision. I agree with that.
00:36:46.000If people think I'm wrong, they shouldn't listen to me. In the same way, if people don't think you're right, they shouldn't listen to you. Make your own choices.
00:36:50.500No, no, I agree with that. But let me just finish my point.
00:36:52.180So although you're right, everyone tries to influence, hence why we're on this podcast.
00:36:56.680We believe that our ideas are stronger than everybody else's.
00:36:58.880That being said, what I'm saying is that what then we're admitting is that we believe that we're able to influence the populace.
00:37:04.660And now what happens is if you believe you're able to influence the populace, then the question mark becomes in what way?
00:37:10.560So when you've got people, institutes like Prager University, or you, for example, got the media,
00:37:15.280or you've got social media, and yes, the people who are pro-Israel push that position, push that propaganda more than anything else, you're able to influence.
00:37:23.060And so what I mean by that is this. So when you talked about, for example, Jewish people, now I do believe Jewish people were oppressed, right?
00:37:30.600But that being said, no, because some people don't.
00:37:35.180No, no, it's not a concession. It's just the way history is, right?
00:37:38.660But that being said, I believe that what happened was because they were, they then thought, look, we're never going to allow this to happen again, never again.
00:37:46.880And therefore, as you said, they disproportionately are in media, they're disproportionately in politics, disproportionately in all these things.
00:37:54.440And what then happens is they were able to influence society.
00:37:57.700So yeah, I agree. Each person should believe that they can make a difference.
00:38:00.780And I believe that once you realize these things are happening, because when you're getting influenced, and you don't know that you're getting influenced, it's much worse.
00:38:06.600But now that people have become aware, the great awakenings happen, people are aware that they're being influenced by Zionists.
00:38:13.100So when, for example, society is being liberalized, when there's a population collapse amongst the white populace, when there's, as you mentioned, many of these DEI policies,
00:38:21.820or as you mentioned, when you've got huge immigration issues, people are realizing, wait a sec,
00:38:25.540this group of people, these Zionists, are actually there to harm white Christian society, are there to harm society, to minimize the numbers, to destroy them internally.
00:38:33.540And I do actually believe that this was done intentionally because they were seen as a threat because of what happened in World War II and prior, the thousands of years prior.
00:38:41.520In terms of the other points you mentioned, I can't remember most of the points you mentioned.
00:48:11.120She's almost the mouthpiece of Israel.
00:48:13.460And therefore, they wanted that to propagate a lot of the propaganda.
00:48:15.880And you see that with Iran now, where they're making a lot of the propaganda about the protests, about what happened in Iran.
00:48:19.940A lot of it's coming from CBS News and those allies of Israel because they want to cause a color revolution in Iran, where the government...
00:48:26.680And it's not worked because the people just do not agree with it.
00:48:30.260And hence, why the government is still in power.
00:48:32.000They were still in power after the 12-day war, which was a prime time where people were turned.
00:48:34.500But they realized when the Israelis were bombing, these guys are external enemy.
00:57:27.420And he can talk about his own opinions and defend them to himself.
00:57:29.340I think he's only got a problem with one religion.
00:57:29.760Okay, but I'm talking about me and I can only defend my opinions.
00:57:33.540In terms of what's happening, though, is you're trying to conflate what Nick Shirley did in Minneapolis with what this podcaster did in Curious Joel.
00:57:39.480I believe that we need to reform the welfare system in the United States.
00:57:42.380The fact of the matter is we obsess about foreign aid to Israel, for example, yet foreign aid comprises less than 1% of what the federal government spends every single year.
00:57:49.080What is a way bigger issue is how much we're spending on the military, which Trump now wants to spend $1.5 trillion.
00:57:53.960What is a way bigger issue is our entitlement program, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid.
00:57:58.180If you want to have a conversation on welfare, let's have the conversation.
00:58:00.640What you can't do, though, is conflate actual fraud where a Somali community in Minneapolis, like 90% of whom are on welfare and are also committing violations of federal law because they won't assimilate into a greater culture,
00:58:11.780and then a Hasidic community in New York who are simply legally using the legal tools at their disposal about using welfare.
00:58:18.660And again, welfare should be reformed.
00:58:20.920We should not have as many people on government handouts as we do today.
00:58:24.020But again, let's call a spade a spade.
00:58:25.520If you want to talk about Jewish participation in American life, Jews have a living-
00:58:30.360So just on that, I think you make a fair point.
00:58:32.720But in terms of where the, what you call it again, where the fraud is, is in New York, not this ultra-Orthodox community, but in New York, I did the research.
00:58:41.120There's a large number of Orthodox Jews who basically committed billions of dollars of fraud.
00:58:45.560Now, the reason why that's not been highlighted is specifically because in the United States of America, because media, because social media, because it's pushed through the algorithm,
00:58:53.760there's a specific direct focus on Islam.
00:58:56.260So therefore, I would say, irrespective of where the fraud is, whether it's Minneapolis, which I need to look at it, because I know some of them points that Nick Shirley made, they got debunked.
00:59:06.520But I need to look at all of it, because I've not been through each individual point.
00:59:08.980But also, why is there that, I'm not talking about the Hasidic community.
00:59:11.980I'm talking specifically, even in New York, there was billions of dollars of fraud.
00:59:14.860But why is that not being highlighted?
00:59:15.820The reason it's not being highlighted is specifically because there is this specific focus, per what the Israeli foreign ministry said, focus on Islam, hate Muslims, attack them.
00:59:25.740And that's why there's this direction.
00:59:26.460Let me make one point, Shabbat Salah, let you go.
00:59:28.500You know, and I actually wrote this down, you know, I think a lot of this comes down to social engineering, where they have to pit us against each other.
00:59:34.440And the reason why I say this is because, like, Shabbat, I know you'll probably say, like, Dave Smith is, like, a horrible person, or, like, Nick Fuentes, this and that.
00:59:41.460But at the same exact time, you look at our history, after World War II, we had Operation Paperclip that brought actual Nazis over.
00:59:47.600I mean, literal Nazis, like Wernher von Braun, who, you know, built rockets that killed people in Poland.
00:59:52.540So I just find it crazy how – and then I look at part of the social engineering.
00:59:57.400You look at how we left Afghanistan and we left the Taliban.
01:00:00.260You know, they say we're the biggest threat, but then we leave them with, like, a billion dollars worth of military equipment.
01:00:03.680So my point is, really, at the end of the day, the government doesn't really care about us.
01:00:08.040I think that they're pitting us against each other.
01:00:36.240I think that the government wants to do left, we, right, black, we, right, Muslim versus Christian, maybe Jews against everybody else, wherever it may be.
01:00:53.920But anyway, coming back to – and I think that's done intentionally.
01:00:56.480In order to cause division, I agree with you, amongst the working class while the government continues to enrich itself.
01:01:01.360For example, you look at the economy, the stock market is being increased, so the wealth get wealthier, the dollar is being weakened, the poor get poor.
01:01:10.340I do think some of it is that they want to create this kind of Palantir control system in place, which, again, look at who's in charge of Palantir.
01:01:18.940But this Palantir control system in place, social credit score in place, and almost take the West down the route of these other countries that we just don't want.
01:01:25.960Well, we've been battling communism and socialism for a long time here in America.
01:01:41.020And making sure that ICE is able to do their job.
01:01:42.840That's what they say too, but also the next time we have a pandemic, it's going to be used to shut us down and take our credit cards off the system so we can't buy stuff.
01:02:13.520This is why I kind of get frustrated with Nick Fuentes and this demoralization of young people is because if you constantly tell people that the Jews control Hollywood or the Zionists, whatever word you want to use that day, then, A, it's not true, but B, more fundamentally, then build something.
01:02:28.540And I'm not talking about – when I said this before, a lot of the neo-Nazis on Twitter attacked me because they said, oh, he's attacking white Americans.
01:28:07.720They were helping with refueling or defense or different mechanisms within the 12-day war.
01:28:11.720That doesn't even count the fact that, as I said, what happens is, with the 3 billion,
01:28:15.720because let's forget all that, which is a huge amount already.
01:28:18.720So when you said the $1.5 trillion budget, a lot of that, not all of it, but a lot of that is for Israelis.
01:28:23.720Now, in terms of the specific point you made about how it works with the military industrial complex.
01:28:27.720What they do is, this is just crazy, they'll give $3 billion to Israel.
01:28:31.720Israel has to spend it on the military industrial complex, right?
01:28:34.720So you're still getting the free stuff.
01:28:36.720Then what happens is that money goes to the military industrial complex, which the military industrial complex then end up getting the money.
01:28:42.720And what is the military industrial complex?
01:28:47.720So what happens is, you get the 3 billion, you get the military equipment, you then get the military equipment, and then you get the funding to the military industrial complex.
01:28:54.720And the military industrial complex use that money for more Zionist initiatives on various other things.
01:28:59.720In addition to that, what's even more crazy about all of this is not just the fact that the funding is significant.
01:29:05.720Oh, sorry, I forgot what the point is made, but let me go to the Germany point now.
01:29:16.720They are completely subservient to the Zionists.
01:29:19.720You looked at the way they acted during the Israel-Gaza conflict.
01:29:22.720You look at it now in terms of the position of anti-Semitism.
01:29:25.720It's one of the few places in the world, a lot of the European countries, but one of the few European countries which is very strict on Holocaust denial.
01:29:32.720Which, in my view, like, you can agree with the numbers in the Holocaust or disagree.
01:29:36.720It should be just a rational conversation that people have.
01:29:38.720And the reason why it becomes a big topic is because of the censorious nature of the conversation.
01:29:42.720And so when you talk about, for example, Nick Fuentes, what was the point you made about Nick?
01:29:47.720Is when you're telling young people the reason you can't have a job, the reason you can't afford it is because of the foreign conflict.
01:29:52.720So I disagree with that. What he's done is he's highlighted the issue, he's raised awareness, and now they put plans in place to ensure that, for example, they get America First candidates who succeed.
01:30:01.720But when you don't diagnose the problem, then people are blind to it, and that's what's been happening for a very long time.
01:30:07.720And Shabbos, I do agree, you know, that's why Benjamin Netanyahu is saying for 10 years that we don't need this money.
01:30:11.720But he doesn't need that $3 billion because he knows that our intelligence agencies and the CIA and Mossad are basically working together.
01:30:17.720So in a way, our militaries, I would say, are very linked up.
01:30:20.720So he knows that at the end of the day, if they need weapons or something, that they're going to get it.
01:30:23.720And with that being said, I think Israel can defend itself.
01:30:26.720I think a perfect example is this is when Benjamin Netanyahu gave a golden pager to President Donald Trump, which I kind of interpret that a little bit as a threat.
01:30:33.720But my point is, they're giving bombs to random guys and blowing people up.
01:30:38.720So I'm saying Israel is not this, you know, they're not that weak.
01:30:44.720I agree, which is why any time I've met with Israeli officials, I actually had a meeting once, I mean, not just with me, but with Prime Minister Bibi.
01:30:49.720And I said, you should not take American foreign aid.
01:30:51.720He was in New York meeting with Trump and they had an event with like young American Jewish students.
01:30:56.720I called Bibi and said, hey, you got to quit the foreign aid.
01:30:59.720By the way, the ex-head of the CIA, the ex-head of Mossad, he had an event a couple of months ago because he wrote a book, which I went to.
01:31:05.720And he also gave out golden pagers to everyone, which I also thought was like, what's the implication of this?
01:31:27.720What you are doing is you're not arguing to the point that we have alliances with countries all over the world, which is why if you look at the Federalist Papers, for example, it is replete.
01:31:35.720In fact, the most common term in the Federalist Papers is common defense.
01:31:38.720It talks about the importance of having military alliances that defend American interests, right?
01:31:43.720Again, I keep going back to President Jefferson because he was the first president to recognize that we live, unfortunately, in a world and in a world that is quite dangerous.
01:31:49.720So it is advantageous to advance American interests, not only domestically here at home, but also across the world, which is, again, I keep going back to the Barbary War because it really demonstrates that America first does not mean America alone.
01:32:00.720So for example, we have a multi-billion dollar base in South Korea that we're spending money on every single year.
01:32:04.720We have a multi-billion dollar base in Japan.
01:32:06.720We have a multi-billion dollar base in Qatar.
01:32:07.720We have a multi-billion dollar base in Germany.
01:32:09.720But no one talks about those things because we recognize it's advantageous to have outposts of Western American democracy in those places.
01:32:18.720The only country that we fixate on, and again, I keep going back to this point of I agree with you, let's cut the foreign aid, but it's a little silly when we only focus-
01:32:25.720I'm just asking for you to elucidate, not just the aid, but also the military support, also all the extension of the money, also not physically defending them.
01:32:49.720It's interesting that you talk about Israel all the time, you don't even mention Ukraine, which vastly overweighs how much Israel has gotten since its existence.
01:33:03.720I'm talking to a pro-Israel person, if I was talking to a pro-Ukraine person.
01:33:04.720I am pro-Ukrainian, I am pro-Taiwanese, I'm pro any country that advances American hegemony and American military dominance anywhere in the world.
01:33:10.720Does that mean that they can only be, like Ukraine, exclusively reliant on one country?
01:33:15.720Which is why I support America supporting the Ukrainian military, not to the tune of $300 billion, because I think if we only allow the Ukrainians to be reliant on another country, they will never be self-sufficient.
01:33:24.720Which is why the regime change in countries like Iraq or Afghanistan never worked, because the Afghani army, the Iraqi army, were incompetent.
01:33:32.720They were never able to use American military equipment because they were literally high the entire time.
01:33:37.720So I believe in advancing American military interests.
01:33:40.720At this point in time, one of our greatest adversaries is Iran.
01:33:43.720Iran tried assassinating President Trump, which is why President Trump said in the White House, actually, in the Oval Office, you can deny it, but you have to tell President Trump why he's wrong on this, where he actually left instructions in case he was killed.
01:33:54.720We know for a fact that Iran was behind the 1983 Beirut bombing, which killed 243 U.S. Marines, which, again, no one talks about.
01:34:01.720We don't talk about the fact that Israel is the only country that is fighting Islamists and actually kills Hezbollah fighters, for example, that are on the FBI's Most Wanted.
01:34:08.720There was a senior Hezbollah leader who was in charge of another embassy bombing.
01:34:12.720I'm forgetting his name in a second, but I'll look it up.
01:34:25.720Israel, in many cases, does advance American interests, and I'm happy to hear arguments that they don't.
01:34:30.720But unfortunately, all you're pointing to is this conspiratorial that Jews are controlling it, that the American military industrial complex, which I have many problems with, are controlled by the Zionists.
01:34:38.720Which, again, I'm not sure why you're making that case that they're in the pocket of Zionists when they support a whole host of countries, which is why they're the military industrial complex, which we should talk about.
01:34:48.720It's a problem, but stop fixating on one country.
01:34:50.720And again, the last point I'll make, and then I'll stop talking, is even if I were to take all of your numbers into consideration, which is true, the $16 billion authored by President Biden and the roughly $20 billion authored by President Trump, even though a significant amount of that still has to be spent on American military technology, even if we were to take all of those numbers into consideration, you are still talking about a fraction of a fraction.
01:35:12.720So, I agree with you. We are spending way too much. We spend $7 trillion of our federal budget every single year. The problem we face in our country, which, I'm American, I don't know if you have American citizenship, but I've lived here my whole life.
01:35:24.720This is my country. I was born here. I'm going to die here. The problems we face in our economy have very, very little to do with how we interact with foreign countries. It just doesn't.
01:35:33.720The biggest problem we have, the biggest problem, are our entitlement programs, social security, welfare.
01:35:38.720Thank you for bringing that back domestically. We have devolved into a conversation about foreign policy in the Middle East, and that's not at all what we can hear to talk about.
01:35:46.240Let's talk about America. We just had an election that talked about, you know, I mean, one of the big issues. Hang on, you've had a lot of time to speak.
01:35:53.860It's two against one. It is two against one.
01:35:56.140So, yeah, but I've not had as much time, so let me say something here.
01:35:59.880We just had an election where one of the big themes was, you know, no more foreign entanglements in these forever wars, not funding these forever wars.
01:36:07.100And I think, at least in my party, the Republican Party, that the majority of Republicans do agree with that.
01:36:27.760I think sometimes Trump says things that are, you know, it's all part of a negotiation or something else is going on that we're not aware of.
01:36:33.680But what I want to focus on is really, like, what are we doing that is America first, right?
01:36:39.000That is the movement that I associate with, focusing on what does it mean to be an American, what is happening in our culture, what is happening in our society, our cities.
01:36:48.140And I think, generally speaking, the majority of Americans are looking around saying things have changed dramatically in the last, you know, 20 or 30 years.
01:36:57.080And you could point to, well, we, you know, we were involved in Somalia, you know, under the Clinton administration, and they brought a bunch of Somalis in, and that was wrong.
01:37:05.620You know, we've allowed, you know, during the Biden administration, we allowed 20 million illegal aliens to come over, which, by the way, were not majority Mexicans.
01:37:12.580You know, they were from 150 different countries.
01:37:15.740So, you know, people from all over the world were coming here because they saw it as their opportunity to get in and get into our system where, you know, for money, obviously.
01:37:23.560Now, some of those are just receiving money.
01:37:26.900I concede that not all immigrants are bad.
01:37:28.960But when you have lower birth rates and lower job acceptance among people who were from America originally, that is what's creating all this frustration.
01:37:39.340And while, you know, there are online personalities that I vehemently disagree with, you know, there is this sense that there is this helplessness that, you know, people kind of like under 30 have lived their whole life.
01:37:49.440Now, I'm old enough that I've sort of seen the shift, but these people under 30 recognize that they can't get into college because of their skin color.
01:37:56.720They can't get into college because they're male or they're not LGBTQ or whatever.
01:38:00.760Like, there are all these categories that colleges are, you know, working overtime to import people.
01:38:06.300There are jobs that are working overtime to import people who are not Americans.
01:38:10.340And I think our policy should be let's focus on what is good for Americans.
01:38:15.780And there's not enough people doing that.
01:38:17.800I think there's not enough politicians willing to do that.
01:38:57.160Letting in a couple immigrants here and there, I think most people are okay with that.
01:39:00.880And I think historically that has proven to be okay.
01:39:02.740But the problem is there has been a rapid acceleration in the last, you know, call it generation or two where we've let in so many that we are witnessing in real time the destruction of our culture.
01:39:12.880The same way Western Europe is also losing its culture, I would argue.
01:39:16.660I mean, letting in millions of, you know, predominantly Muslims there.
01:39:21.420That is the predominant, you know, immigrant in Western Europe.
01:39:24.700We are watching in real time the destruction of their culture.
01:39:29.040And I think most people don't want that to happen here.
02:01:25.500And that has completely been demonstrated in terms of the Republican Party.
02:01:28.500And I think what the Republican Party needs to move to is an America first model, which isn't going to war for foreign nations.
02:01:34.500Now, in terms of specifically what you said, one of the biggest problems we have with these extreme radical Zionists is the fact that they are destroying American values.
02:01:42.500But it's just that politicians know that they can't speak about it because they won't get elected.
02:01:46.500And so in reality, if you look at this direct attack on free speech, you look at, for example, let's take Mahmoud Khalil as an example.
02:01:52.500Mahmoud Khalil, he didn't partake in any kind of extremist act.
02:01:57.500He didn't support any kind of extremist organization.
02:02:00.500Marco Rubio was quite clear that the reason he's been deported is because of foreign influence or foreign reasons.
02:02:06.500In addition to that, the claims made about him working for UNRWA, he was working for UNRWA as an unpaid intern or whoever it is.
02:02:53.500Because of the Zionist control of the United States of America, where First Amendment has been hammered inside the United States of America,
02:02:58.500they basically deployed the IHRA definition in universities for universities to get funding, or for universities to get any kind of support,
02:03:05.500or for universities not to be harmed by the US administration.
02:03:08.500They have to deploy the IHRA definition.
02:03:10.500What is the IHRA definition, you may ask?
02:03:12.500It is basically, if you say that the Jews killed Jesus, you will be expelled from university.
02:03:17.500If you believe that, basically, certain Jewish people have dual loyalty, like for example, I do believe anyone who serves IDF has dual loyalty, you will be deported.
02:03:24.500If you believe that, for example, Israel, the rules for Israel is different to another country, these are just dialogues we have.
02:03:29.500We just had a dialogue now, I think we respect, we don't hate each other, we don't dislike each other, we disagree with each other.
02:03:33.500But why would that if I was in university, I would not be suspended, I would be expelled.
02:03:36.500This is the way of controlling people's minds.
02:03:38.500This is creating the chilling effect, the fear in the hearts of Americans that if you speak against them, if you speak against these radical people, that you will be expelled, you won't have a career.
02:03:46.500You saw the doxing of these students, what happened in, I can't remember what university was Harvard.
02:03:50.500With doxing of these students, their careers were taken away, their job applications were taken away.
02:03:53.500This is to say that, look, either you comply, you don't have First Amendment rights, you can't speak, you can't think.
02:03:59.500If you are, you will be removed from the United States of America, you'll be deported, you'll be suspended from university.
02:04:03.500And now you're seeing this massive push towards, you know, for example, within social media, you look at the head of Mehta, who said that they want to basically clamp down on anti-Semitism.
02:04:12.500There's this specific attack against anti-Semitism, but if you look at it, people attack Islam all the time.
02:04:17.500People can make reason of attacking Islam, no problem whatsoever.
02:04:20.500But when it comes to one specific group, it's not like that, and I think that there should be a consistency.
02:04:24.500Well, you're talking about Israeli terrorism, but you're too scared to talk about that.
02:04:27.500But the thing is, all I want is consistency, and this is what we saw today, there wasn't consistency.
02:05:00.500I just want to mention the college campuses very, very quickly.
02:05:02.500In 2023, there was a Supreme Court case brought by Asian American students against Harvard University.
02:05:06.500It turned out that Harvard University was actually ranking Asian American applicants based on their personalities.
02:05:10.500During the Supreme Court hearing, which was Students for Fair Admissions, it also turned out during the discovery process that Harvard University was de-ranking white Christian men in support of blacks and Hispanics.
02:05:20.500So there was documented cases of actual civil rights violations perpetrated by Harvard University.
02:05:24.500We sued Harvard University over their civil rights violations under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.
02:05:28.500We were allowed by a judge, particularly discrimination against Jewish Americans.
02:05:32.500We were allowed by a judge based on the facts that we were presenting to actually go to trial.
02:05:35.500The first case of its kind pertained to the discrimination of Jewish Americans on a college campus to be allowed to go to trial.
02:05:39.500So the idea that Harvard University, which was discriminating against Asian Americans, which was discriminating against white Christian men, which was also discriminating against Jewish Americans, is somehow clamping down on free speech.
02:05:49.500Harvard University was ranked by the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expressions four years ago, 248th out of 248 American universities when it came to free speech.
02:05:56.500This is an institution that disinvites controversial speakers who are deemed transphobic.
02:06:00.500This is an institution that demoted an African-American professor for coming out against Black Lives Matter.
02:06:04.500This is an institution that unenrolled 12 admitted students when it turned out they had posted a sexist meme in a private WhatsApp group.
02:06:09.500So are there attacks on free speech? Absolutely.
02:06:11.500But the people who are fighting back against it are people like me, are pro-America, America first Jews who say that the pattern of silencing and the pattern of attacking the First Amendment right is insanity.
02:06:20.500And for the millionth fucking time, people can and should criticize Jews in Israel as much as you freaking want.
02:06:26.500But the idea that somehow Harvard University or any of these institutions of higher learning, which are impediments or indicative of crony capitalism, were in any way interested in free speech or liberalism.
02:06:36.500No, it is political indoctrination where students take it from me. I was there.
02:06:39.500Students are being told to hate the United States, to hate Western civilization.
02:06:43.500And everything you said about Mahmoud Khalil is demonstrably not true. He violated the law.
02:06:46.500And if you think this is some Zionist attack, then you're going to have to explain why three courts thus far have all said, yes, he has violated the law.
02:06:53.500Okay. So just coming back to you. By the way, I agree with what you said, by the way, and you demonstrated the issue.
02:06:58.500So Harvard did basically oppress Asian-Americans. They did oppress white Christians.
02:07:03.500There was no court case against them. There was no defunding of them. When did it all happen?
02:07:06.500It happened when this guy, when these guys basically took Harvard University to court based on the discrimination against them.
02:07:12.500That's not true. People are the best attorneys.