The Culture War - Tim Pool - October 07, 2025


Demand For UNMASKING ICE Grows, Immigration Court Arrests CONTINUE ft. Elaad Eliahu


Episode Stats

Length

27 minutes

Words per Minute

209.55171

Word Count

5,745

Sentence Count

391

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

Our very own Alad Ilyahu has been on the ground in New York at the courthouses covering the ICE deportation operation. They have been hanging out in the courts and grabbing the illegals. It s been quite something to watch.


Transcript

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00:00:58.420 No, no.
00:00:59.000 The new guys have been surprisingly orderly.
00:01:01.540 All of the photographers are desperate to try to catch a story to try to slander ice.
00:01:06.180 All the photographers there are trying to catch the most dramatic moments and whatnot.
00:01:10.280 And I mean, these scenes do look very dramatic.
00:01:12.080 But no, for by and large part, things are extremely orderly.
00:01:16.560 They're not beating up or I don't know.
00:01:20.200 They're not hanging.
00:01:21.240 They're not killing.
00:01:21.820 They're not assaulting any of the people who are there detaining.
00:01:25.820 If you leave in an orderly way, they'll escort you gently, frankly, in my estimation.
00:01:30.900 Hey, guys.
00:01:31.340 Tate Brown here holding it down for Tim Pool.
00:01:33.540 I have a great interview here with Alad Ilyahu, our very own Alad Ilyahu.
00:01:37.320 He has been on the ground in New York at the courthouses covering the ICE deportation operation.
00:01:42.860 They've been hanging out in the courthouses and grabbing the illegals.
00:01:45.400 It's been quite something to watch.
00:01:47.400 So I've got a great interview here.
00:01:48.800 Check it out.
00:01:49.640 My name is Alad Ilyahu.
00:01:51.020 I'm a White House correspondent here at TimCast.
00:01:53.720 On my off time, I cover immigration and the Trump administration's new immigration initiatives
00:01:59.920 and how they play out around the country.
00:02:02.300 So they've recently been trying to obviously up their numbers.
00:02:05.400 And the president Trump administration...
00:02:07.200 Are we Gucci?
00:02:07.620 So part of the new initiatives of trying to increase their numbers have been DHS and ICE
00:02:13.780 agents going to different immigration courthouses around the country, mainly in New York City
00:02:19.360 and California is where they have the highest numbers.
00:02:21.520 And they are waiting outside of courtrooms of court proceedings for illegal immigrants.
00:02:27.080 And oftentimes they are taking them before their proceedings have fully finished because
00:02:32.180 they are eligible for so-called expedited removals.
00:02:34.240 So the administration and DHS is prioritizing those who came here in the past two years
00:02:38.980 or those who have a criminal record.
00:02:40.480 And then after their court hearings, they are grabbing them.
00:02:42.840 And then you'll see many of these dramatic scenes outside of the courtrooms going on.
00:02:47.280 And despite these very dramatic scenes that I film while at these courthouses, only five
00:02:52.380 to ten illegal immigrants are being detained per day at these different courthouses.
00:02:58.600 So you're seeing that.
00:02:59.960 And actually this video...
00:03:01.160 Why is this important right now?
00:03:02.160 This is making national news because this video in particular is of a man who was actually
00:03:06.700 separated from his wife who chose to resist arrest with him and his family.
00:03:11.280 So they all chose to grab each other.
00:03:13.080 The agents were forced to forcibly remove them from one another.
00:03:17.100 And then if you want to scroll down to the next clip, DHS agents, you know, while being
00:03:23.520 physically agitated by the woman also who is an illegal immigrant who was frustrated
00:03:28.120 with her husband being taken away, this DHS agent reacted to him being grabbed and shoved
00:03:33.180 this woman to the ground.
00:03:34.440 This got a lot of pushback initially.
00:03:37.000 I believe the spokesperson for DHS, I believe her name is Tricia McLaughlin.
00:03:41.160 I'm sorry if I'm butchering that.
00:03:42.380 She said something along the lines of this being unbecoming of ICE agents.
00:03:45.540 Despite that, he is actually back on duty.
00:03:48.860 So 26 Federal Plaza, where these ICE agents are hanging outside of these immigration courts
00:03:53.560 and doing these arrests, has increasingly become a flashpoint.
00:03:56.940 Democrats and activists are often going there to protest what they see as poor treatment of
00:04:02.340 people going through the court process, poor treatment of people in the processing facility
00:04:07.240 on another floor where they take them to prepare them to be taken to a detention facility
00:04:11.260 to ultimately be deported from.
00:04:13.320 And so that's why, you know, we're seeing a lot more of these scenes out of these courtrooms.
00:04:17.960 Yeah, I mean, so from my perspective, I was going through it earlier.
00:04:23.180 I was showing some of the polling as how deporting illegal immigrants and illegal criminals is
00:04:28.560 extremely popular, even with Democrats.
00:04:30.340 This is a very popular position.
00:04:32.340 So going into the election, you had the brocasters, I think is what you would call them.
00:04:37.120 That's like your Rogans, your Tim Dillans, your Theo Vons.
00:04:40.360 You know, they were behind Trump.
00:04:41.800 They were supporting Trump, these sorts of things.
00:04:43.540 And then as soon as videos like this started coming out, and a lot of them were your videos,
00:04:49.440 everyone just soured really quickly.
00:04:51.340 And they were like, oh, but this is so mean, these sorts of things.
00:04:54.740 I mean, how else is ICE?
00:04:56.120 From my perspective, I'm sitting here, I'm like, how else is ICE supposed to conduct these
00:05:00.260 operations, especially when they're not getting any support from these blue state and blue city
00:05:04.920 governments?
00:05:05.900 Totally.
00:05:06.300 And there's a few things at play here.
00:05:07.560 So these are some of the more dramatic scenes.
00:05:09.280 Most of the detainments and arrests don't look like this.
00:05:12.540 If we wanted to scroll through some of the others, most of them don't look like this.
00:05:16.880 But it's the power of video.
00:05:19.440 It's very potent, the power of capturing live arrests.
00:05:24.100 We could be sympathetic to criminals if we see, you know, how they're treated after they're
00:05:28.540 arrested.
00:05:29.100 So this is ultimately, I think, the safest and most reasonable way to go about it oftentimes,
00:05:33.440 because if they've said, I believe Todd Lyons has said that if they're not going to get
00:05:38.560 them at these courthouses, or I believe it wasn't, it wasn't Todd Lyons.
00:05:41.460 It was the border czar, Tom Homan, who said that if they're not going to get them at the
00:05:46.680 courthouses in an orderly way, they're going to be forced to go into the neighborhoods.
00:05:50.000 If they're not able to go after them in the jails, then they're going to have to be going
00:05:52.980 through the neighborhoods and then really break neighborhood trust with law enforcement,
00:05:56.940 which would lead to a more detrimental situation.
00:05:59.140 Has, I mean, you've been covering this for a while now, had things ramped up after the
00:06:04.340 Big Beautiful Bill's passing?
00:06:05.880 I mean, have we seen a thicker presence of federal agents?
00:06:09.100 So the number of agents there, frankly, actually hasn't increased since the passing of the Big
00:06:14.140 Beautiful Bill.
00:06:14.720 The number of detainments at these immigration courts has actually gone down since the President
00:06:19.240 Trump administration has began.
00:06:21.040 And this is because as they began taking more and more people out from these courthouses,
00:06:25.140 more people have been suing and they're caught up in a lot of litigation.
00:06:28.020 Also, there's issues with people with the processing facility allegedly not having enough room
00:06:33.780 to house all the people that they were being detaining.
00:06:36.200 So between that and a couple of other factors, they've definitely been decreasing the numbers
00:06:39.760 of daily detainments, at least outside of the courthouses that I've witnessed.
00:06:43.560 Is it evident, because I love ICE, I'm a big ICE backer, there's no question about it,
00:06:48.440 but there is something to be said of they've had an influx of agents, a lot of them not coming
00:06:53.940 from law enforcement backgrounds in some cases.
00:06:56.160 So there's been accusations that some of these arrests have been sloppy.
00:06:59.620 I mean, obviously, the guy hit sticking the lady was dramatic.
00:07:03.180 And a lot of people are saying, OK, maybe, I don't know.
00:07:06.100 I don't know.
00:07:06.400 That's neither here nor there.
00:07:07.880 Have you seen, do these ICE agents feel, do you see a lot of sloppiness in a lot of instances?
00:07:13.300 I'm surprised at the lack of sloppiness.
00:07:14.760 The person who has actually shoved the woman to the ground was a supervisor and was hired
00:07:19.020 way before any of these recent Big Beautiful Bill or the signing bonus or what have you.
00:07:23.580 That guy wasn't getting in any of that.
00:07:25.240 This gentleman in the plaid shirt who's now back on duty.
00:07:28.580 No, the new guys have been surprisingly orderly.
00:07:31.540 All of the photographers are desperate to try to catch a story to try to slander ICE.
00:07:36.160 All the photographers there are trying to catch the most dramatic moments and whatnot.
00:07:40.020 And I mean, these scenes do look very dramatic, but no, for by and large part, things are extremely
00:07:45.580 orderly.
00:07:46.600 They're not beating up or I don't know.
00:07:50.200 They're not hanging.
00:07:51.240 They're not killing.
00:07:51.800 They're not assaulting any of the people who are there detaining.
00:07:55.820 If you leave in an orderly way, they'll escort you gently, frankly, in my estimation.
00:08:02.100 Yeah.
00:08:02.300 If you go scroll down a little bit more.
00:08:04.220 Most arrests, if you could keep going, those are some of the protests outside.
00:08:07.220 But this is the very dramatic arrest, but most of the arrests are actually extremely
00:08:11.560 orderly.
00:08:11.860 Keep going.
00:08:12.320 Go like three or so post down if you could, please.
00:08:16.020 Like many look like that one.
00:08:18.160 Something like this.
00:08:19.220 So the guy will ask for his court papers.
00:08:22.240 The agent will have a packet in his hand where it actually has all the information of
00:08:26.280 the illegal migrant.
00:08:27.920 They'll make sure it's the correct person.
00:08:30.240 And then they'll just orderly escort them down the hall.
00:08:32.780 Sometimes I'll try to ask them what country they're from.
00:08:34.840 They usually don't tell me which, either because they're embarrassed or don't speak
00:08:39.760 English.
00:08:41.080 In such cases.
00:08:43.620 So yeah, but there's been a lot of consternation from the left over this because, again, they
00:08:47.540 think this discourages people from showing up to court.
00:08:50.240 They're uneasy with these agents being masked.
00:08:52.500 I believe Tim was also uneasy with these agents being masked.
00:08:55.220 Some agents also used to obscure their ICE badges to, like, the last moment, which could
00:09:03.040 be a concern for some people.
00:09:05.000 But I believe this is actually, by and large part, the most orderly way to go about this.
00:09:09.120 Here's another example that I'm talking about.
00:09:10.600 This really demonstrates what's going on there.
00:09:12.620 These are hallways around courtrooms.
00:09:15.500 Most of the people who go to their court hearings aren't being detained.
00:09:20.080 But there is this sense of, you know, this illegal migrant, illegal migrant woman with
00:09:26.600 their presumably American child walking down these hallways with ICE agents just lining
00:09:31.160 the halls.
00:09:32.060 That is a sort of, like, masked agents.
00:09:34.580 And there is a sort of unease.
00:09:35.940 I will say, I don't...
00:09:37.980 I talked to Todd Lyons about this, the acting director of ICE.
00:09:40.640 He said, you know, he doesn't like it, but he doesn't want to encourage, you know, things
00:09:44.260 that could promote violence against his agents.
00:09:46.480 And I understand that.
00:09:47.340 But these guys are all armed.
00:09:48.940 And, you know, you're getting a nice signing bonus.
00:09:50.680 And this isn't an easy job, but it's an important job.
00:09:53.200 And I don't want people in law enforcement to get attacked.
00:09:55.780 But I think there is this uneasiness of not being able to, you know, identify.
00:10:01.140 I don't want people masked up.
00:10:02.200 I didn't like it when Antifa masked up.
00:10:03.820 I don't like it when the left masks up.
00:10:05.900 And I understand that the consequences will be some of these ICE agents getting doxxed.
00:10:10.440 But guess what?
00:10:11.120 There are also just a handful of ICE agents who don't wear the masks and have dealt with
00:10:15.240 the consequences, and they've been fine.
00:10:16.700 So, for example, this short little girl, Serge, in the video before this, that one.
00:10:21.140 Yeah, you see this short little woman?
00:10:22.900 She's not wearing a mask, if you want to scroll to the beginning of this.
00:10:25.300 Yeah, that woman is, I believe, also a supervisor.
00:10:30.380 She's not wearing a mask.
00:10:31.520 And then the guy who shoved the other lady, you know, he wasn't wearing a mask, ultimately.
00:10:36.400 And I think you lose trust.
00:10:40.320 And it's very bad optically.
00:10:42.820 Yeah, well, I mean.
00:10:43.840 And I understand the need to protect our agents.
00:10:45.840 But look, you're strapped in New York City.
00:10:47.480 Nobody in New York City is allowed to have a gun.
00:10:49.100 All of these guys are still armed.
00:10:51.080 Well, I think the problem is, like, look, we're trying to, we need mass deportations.
00:10:55.100 There's tens of millions, upwards of 30, 40 million people, to some estimates, of legal
00:10:59.140 immigrants in the country.
00:10:59.880 And it's, like, I'm not so concerned about the trust of the institutions.
00:11:03.680 I just need them to conduct their job as efficiently as possible.
00:11:07.200 And if they're getting docks and there's people showing up to their houses and giving
00:11:10.200 them a hard time, that impedes the operation, the mass deportation operation.
00:11:14.620 So it's, like, I'm willing in the short term to make people feel a little uneasy if what
00:11:19.160 we're trying to do is get millions and millions of legal immigrants out.
00:11:22.180 I'm okay with them doing these sorts of things.
00:11:25.980 And it's, like, if you don't want a mask, that's great if you want the smoke.
00:11:28.140 But it's, like, look, I don't need these guys to be thought leaders.
00:11:32.080 I don't need these guys to be, you know, brave and putting their face out there.
00:11:35.740 I need them to get the job done, right?
00:11:36.980 I need them to get illegals out of the country.
00:11:39.280 So, I mean, I don't need to test them.
00:11:41.940 I don't need, yeah, I don't need them to be, like I said, I don't need them to be thought
00:11:44.500 leaders.
00:11:45.220 I just need them to, and I don't care if, I really don't care if it makes people feel uneasy.
00:11:49.240 If you're here illegally, you should feel uneasy no matter what, because you're here illegally.
00:11:52.380 You're breaking the law.
00:11:53.300 Totally.
00:11:53.660 I ultimately think it's counterproductive, though, because if it's DHS and ICE agents'
00:11:58.340 goal to try to deport as many people as possible, then they need to stay popular and writ large
00:12:03.460 among the populace and politicians while they do so, or they won't be able to fulfill that
00:12:07.720 goal.
00:12:08.360 So, I think this is a small, I don't, I don't think, I think most ICE agents would be fined
00:12:12.320 if they were unmasked.
00:12:13.180 As I said, there are already a handful of agents who chose not to wear the mask.
00:12:17.600 I've spoke to agents both who do and don't wear masks.
00:12:20.740 And one person told me, you know, he'd be popular if I got, I'd be popular if I got
00:12:24.260 docs in my neighborhood.
00:12:25.280 Like, they all appreciate agents there.
00:12:27.160 But I do think that it does give people an easy way to sort of slander them.
00:12:33.140 If you're not proud of your work, why are you wearing, like, if you're proud of your work,
00:12:35.900 why are you hiding your face?
00:12:36.940 I think all the arguments that people use against Antifa and the far left hiding their face
00:12:41.580 really does also apply here for law enforcement.
00:12:44.880 Well, I think, I think at this point, to your first point about keeping, you know, popularity
00:12:50.040 up, keeping a, you know, public opinion of ICE popular, I think at this point, everyone
00:12:55.480 that has an opinion on ICE has, you know, they've, they've, they've, they've come to a conclusion
00:12:59.660 whether they like them or not.
00:13:00.700 I don't think there's anybody that's like on the fence about ICE.
00:13:02.640 So, I don't really know if there's much more that ICE could do to really, you know, win
00:13:06.880 over new supporters, I guess.
00:13:09.000 No, I will say, no, I mean, I think they could lose supporters over this.
00:13:12.200 I think there's a percent of people, maybe small, maybe in the teens, maybe in the 10
00:13:18.260 to 20% of people who support law enforcement, but do genuinely feel uncomfortable with masked
00:13:23.620 law enforcement doing their job.
00:13:25.160 And I'll give you an example.
00:13:26.120 Our boss, Tim Poole, he feels very uncomfortable.
00:13:28.160 He said before on the show, I don't know if he'll change his mind, he changes his mind
00:13:30.980 often, but he said like, no, this is bullshit.
00:13:32.980 And the ICE agents shouldn't wear these masks.
00:13:35.860 And, you know, they really do look like a form of secret police in some way.
00:13:39.880 I totally support their, you know, what they're trying to do.
00:13:43.020 And they're just enforcing the law.
00:13:44.220 They don't write the law.
00:13:45.920 And I think it's ultimately hurting their cause.
00:13:48.160 The masks, like some of these videos, they, here's the thing too, as some on the left have
00:13:53.420 said, I don't know if we caught it in the second part of the audio or what have you.
00:13:56.940 Some people say that the intimidation is part of what they're trying to do.
00:14:01.460 Part of the, like factoring in, like the cruelty is the point, I think is what the liberals
00:14:06.800 in the left side says about this.
00:14:08.520 So if that is true, then the masks are actually playing into that.
00:14:12.520 But I think ultimately we saw with, and, you know, it's unfortunate this, the environment
00:14:17.040 we're in, but we've seen that the left is willing to use violence as a means to shut
00:14:22.040 people up and to impede on their opponent's goals.
00:14:26.340 And so I'm looking, I guess I will go back to my first point, which is my goal ultimately
00:14:30.420 is to get as many illegal immigrants out of the country.
00:14:32.300 And as if, if this causes them to lose, you know, 10, 20% of the country support wise,
00:14:36.960 I think that's worth it because the alternative is, I mean, you don't know what could happen
00:14:41.500 to these guys or their families.
00:14:42.600 I mean, we just can't put it past.
00:14:44.320 We're seeing coordination.
00:14:45.160 I mean, like with the Charlie Kirk murder, there's now like, you know, a lot of people
00:14:48.200 speculating there was coordination.
00:14:49.660 Who knows what these black block operations in New York and Chicago and in Portland, I mean,
00:14:55.100 they probably have a list of these guys and their families and these sorts of things.
00:14:58.060 And it's like, whatever these guys can do to insulate themselves from violence, uh, you
00:15:03.560 know, vigilante violence, I think is worth it because ultimately, I mean, they've had
00:15:08.920 trouble.
00:15:09.280 They've had, they've had some difficulties hiring in certain, in certain places.
00:15:12.840 And I want to maintain as many agents as possible.
00:15:16.800 And, uh, I don't want to see these guys getting, you know, getting roughed up by these leftist
00:15:21.780 activists.
00:15:22.700 I think they're roughed up would be in reverse, but it's, well, you know, I mean, like we saw
00:15:27.360 with Kirk and we've seen with others is they're willing to go there.
00:15:30.300 They're willing to, to, to harm these guys.
00:15:33.000 And, and ultimately I just don't see why they need to unmask like for public.
00:15:37.320 They're already, they're deported.
00:15:38.600 These, these people that would be uneasy with, with ICE agents being masked, they're going
00:15:42.400 to be uneasy with them anyway, because they're doing something they don't support, which
00:15:45.560 is they're totally, I will say that people who make the argument that ICE agents shouldn't
00:15:49.520 be wearing masks are almost exactly the same people who don't care about the far left
00:15:55.460 and black bloc and Antifa wearing masks and using that as a way to protect their identities
00:15:59.960 while committing crimes.
00:16:01.060 So that is on me.
00:16:02.420 There's probably a narrow group of people that just don't want masking across the board,
00:16:06.180 whether it be Antifa or whatever.
00:16:07.320 I think there's like a libertarian leaning type who's like anti law enforcement writ large,
00:16:15.020 anti authority figure writ large who feels that way.
00:16:18.120 I will say though, after, um, the dramatic video of the, the gentleman shoving the woman
00:16:22.840 to the ground, which went viral and, um, many Democrats, uh, Congress people ended up commenting
00:16:28.300 on, um, that guy was put on leave ultimately brought back.
00:16:31.520 But, uh, I spoke to some of the agents around that gentleman and after the fact of that video
00:16:36.740 going out and he told me there were efforts to dox all of them, all of the guys in the
00:16:40.700 video.
00:16:41.040 So, and I, I, I said, obviously like, of course, and that's unfortunate and, um, you know, you,
00:16:45.760 you guys are masked up, but like there are consequences that kind of come with the job.
00:16:51.960 I'm not saying that a consequence should be getting doxed.
00:16:55.100 Yeah.
00:16:55.860 I, well, I think, I think they, I think the government should protect their, their agents.
00:17:00.140 Should, should regular police wear masks too?
00:17:03.300 Cause some people will threaten to dox police.
00:17:04.840 Yeah, I mean, but they're not, they're not conducting as abrasive of an operation as mass deportations.
00:17:09.520 Like the police have, they're doing the same thing they've done for hundreds of years versus
00:17:13.260 what ICE is doing is actually, unfortunately is unprecedented, which is mass deportations
00:17:17.380 that hasn't been done since like Eisenhower and this, at least in the scale that the Trump
00:17:22.860 administration is envisioning.
00:17:24.380 And so, yeah, I mean, they, they are conducting an operation that is much more abrasive.
00:17:28.660 There's a large proportion of the country that really just wants to kill them.
00:17:31.900 Um, and so it's like, I'm sitting here like, yeah, I mean, I think this is at least in the
00:17:35.980 short term, the, the solution until Tim made a good point, which is he just doesn't like
00:17:41.220 that there's an environment in which federal agents have to mask for their lives.
00:17:44.520 Like that just shows you that the country is in a position that is just untenable, which
00:17:49.360 is that they have to mask for their lives.
00:17:51.280 Like, well, frankly, we should be able to, we should be able to crack down on these people
00:17:55.040 preemptively.
00:17:55.980 Anybody advocating for violence against ICE agents, I mean, should be, um, prosecuted to
00:18:00.560 the full extent of the law.
00:18:01.480 So that's why I ultimately think, you know, it would be dumb of somebody to try.
00:18:05.080 And if they do, then we have law enforcement answers to that.
00:18:08.320 Right.
00:18:08.460 Um, do you think cruelty is part of the point so-called here?
00:18:11.760 No, no, no.
00:18:12.880 I mean, that just doesn't really track with what they're, what they're trying to do.
00:18:17.660 I mean, the, the cruelty is typically because of, of them fighting back.
00:18:22.260 That's when, or cruel, when it looks cruel.
00:18:24.580 That's what every arrest.
00:18:25.440 It gets physical.
00:18:26.420 People resist looks like.
00:18:28.040 Yeah.
00:18:28.280 When you resist, this is what the arrest will look like.
00:18:29.980 When it gets physical, then they have to get physical in return.
00:18:33.040 And then that's when the clips just look ugly of them, like hit sticking someone.
00:18:36.060 It's like, well, I mean, that's, that's what you have to do.
00:18:38.800 I don't think these ICE agents really want to be like going out and just like, you know,
00:18:43.480 hit sticking random illegals.
00:18:44.900 Like that, that's, that's not, especially if they're masking, they're already concerned
00:18:48.880 about, you know, they're getting doxxed.
00:18:51.660 Why would they make it worse for themselves?
00:18:53.100 And like you were saying, that's why I asked the question earlier where I was like, I mean,
00:18:56.660 are these guys sloppy?
00:18:57.760 And you're saying no.
00:18:58.420 I mean, because that's what I've seen.
00:18:59.600 These guys seem to actually be really professional, especially in their new hires.
00:19:03.180 And they're, and I think part of that is because they know, they know the pressure.
00:19:06.280 They know that there's a lot of eyeballs on them.
00:19:08.000 And they have a million cameras on them.
00:19:09.760 Yeah.
00:19:10.140 People hoping they're about to make a mistake so they can like take a picture and sell it
00:19:15.420 to the New York times.
00:19:16.320 Right.
00:19:16.620 I think frankly, they've been very orderly and coached very well.
00:19:20.880 It seems.
00:19:21.320 Yeah.
00:19:21.500 I think these guys are patriots.
00:19:22.660 They just, they want to, they want mass deportations and they know that they're being on their
00:19:26.740 best behavior and whatnot is how you conduct that.
00:19:30.120 One more.
00:19:30.680 Can I bring one fascinating tidbit in?
00:19:32.260 Yeah.
00:19:32.360 All right.
00:19:32.480 Let's roll this clip back if we can, Serge.
00:19:34.500 So I had this go viral on Instagram.
00:19:37.920 Yeah.
00:19:38.140 This clip got 15 some odd million views.
00:19:40.280 And I was reading through the comments.
00:19:41.200 Very funny.
00:19:42.000 Somebody pointed out to me, it's like, yeah, this man's being detained by a little Hispanic
00:19:46.300 woman, an Asian guy on the right, this fat black guy in front of us, and then a white
00:19:52.240 guy.
00:19:52.440 So it's a very diverse group of ICE agents who are detaining and taking this man away.
00:19:57.240 It's like a community college pamphlet is arresting you.
00:19:59.660 It's the black guy, the Asian guy, the little Hispanic woman, the tall, fat white guy, the
00:20:04.400 back right.
00:20:05.180 So this is a very multicultural group of ICE agents who are enforcing our immigration
00:20:10.980 laws outside of these courts.
00:20:12.380 I think that's a fascinating aspect because usually these people would get, be accused
00:20:16.020 of being racist, but now they're self-loathing minority racists.
00:20:19.760 I mean.
00:20:20.160 That must suck if you're like on the left.
00:20:22.040 It's like when the melting pot begins to hate.
00:20:24.540 The melting pot has now come full circle and now there are guys.
00:20:27.660 There are a lot of very large, intimidating black ICE agents at these immigration courts.
00:20:33.020 They hire big dudes.
00:20:34.680 I kind of want the brothers on the front line.
00:20:36.740 Yeah, there are a lot of big dudes.
00:20:37.980 I kind of want that.
00:20:38.280 And there are a lot of young guns too who like grab a guy and run away and I'll barely
00:20:41.500 be able to catch him on video because it's like a young 23, 24, 25 year old who's just
00:20:46.200 excited to be there and excited to be on the job.
00:20:48.760 I'm sure ICE, I'm sure they're listening.
00:20:50.280 I'm sure they've done this.
00:20:52.180 They should really be scouting like the mid-major college football programs for like linebackers
00:20:56.560 because these guys aren't going to make the NFL.
00:20:58.720 And then I don't know what their job prospects look like.
00:21:02.040 I think they could be really useful for ICE.
00:21:04.240 I mean, they're quick, agile, can lay a lake if they need to, if things get physical.
00:21:09.500 I think if you're out there and you're with an ICE hiring, I would consider tabling at
00:21:14.060 these mid-major schools.
00:21:15.580 And you know, there's a lot of downtime at the courts here.
00:21:18.940 I'm usually staking out for at least an hour or so to get an arrest.
00:21:22.180 And so are these ICE agents.
00:21:23.380 And so these guys are just chilling and they're regular dudes.
00:21:26.280 They're really bros, bros.
00:21:27.540 They're cracking jokes to one another.
00:21:29.120 They're laughing and palling around.
00:21:30.960 So I know you only see them in the context of them grabbing somebody.
00:21:33.980 But then on the off hours, we're just kicking back, you know, cracking jokes to one another,
00:21:38.080 having a chill time.
00:21:39.080 These are just regular dudes.
00:21:40.340 And a lot of them are viewers of Timcast.
00:21:43.180 And so they've been a lot of very chill dudes.
00:21:46.020 All of them follow my work.
00:21:47.500 And I like to think they think I do a great job.
00:21:49.700 And it's cool because I'll post something and they'll be like, oh, funny video you posted
00:21:52.560 to me last night.
00:21:54.100 That's great, dude.
00:21:55.380 I love it.
00:21:56.120 I have one more, because we can go over, because we lost like five minutes.
00:21:59.480 I just had like one more kind of, I don't know your thoughts on it, because you've seen
00:22:02.500 this, because a lot of people are interacting with your tweets.
00:22:04.640 I'm very frustrated.
00:22:05.700 I brought it up earlier where you have this segment of the country who got behind Trump.
00:22:11.560 A lot of these people are public figures who got behind Trump for other reasons, even
00:22:16.960 though Trump's biggest issue was immigration, he made that very clear, and it always has
00:22:19.900 been.
00:22:20.680 And then now that these ice raids are conducting, they get very uncomfortable.
00:22:24.540 They start freaking out, seeing these videos.
00:22:27.300 And I'm sitting here like, who did you think you were voting for?
00:22:29.620 Like, this is his thing.
00:22:31.500 This is why I voted for him.
00:22:33.640 What has your reaction been?
00:22:34.920 Are you seeing a lot of these guys that are kind of in the middle, supposedly, that are
00:22:38.180 flaking because of these videos?
00:22:40.560 I mean...
00:22:40.880 I think it's easy to support something in principle, and then in the real world, caught
00:22:45.800 on camera in its most dramatic effect, and in its worst case scenarios, it's a harder
00:22:52.700 pill for certain people to swallow.
00:22:54.240 Most policy, when it's enacted, you don't really see much of it, but it's really eye-capturing.
00:23:02.700 I think it was inevitable that he was going to lose some people.
00:23:04.700 And I also think it was a really, it's important to notice that there's a sliding scale for
00:23:08.940 how much people, and what type of deportations people in our country support.
00:23:13.580 So for example, I think people, it's like a majority position for people to support people,
00:23:18.920 DHS, detaining and deporting people who got here in the past two years, or have criminal
00:23:22.560 records.
00:23:23.180 But then I think you find decreasing support when you find, oh, what if the person had
00:23:26.780 a family here?
00:23:27.660 What if they have a child here?
00:23:29.440 Then you start seeing support go down.
00:23:31.300 And then, oh, what if it's a person who's been here for 20 years?
00:23:33.880 Even if they don't have papers, a lot of Americans are still very sympathetic to people.
00:23:38.100 Illegal immigrants, nonetheless, but people who've still been here 20 years, you'll probably
00:23:42.780 be under 50% for people who support deporting people like that.
00:23:45.560 So I think you do see a sliding scale.
00:23:49.100 And then as things get more visual, people can get a little bit more flaky on it.
00:23:55.240 I think another place where this effect is true, it's like people who are very pro-choice,
00:24:00.500 but then when you see literal images of what an abortion really is in practice, the ghoulishness,
00:24:08.380 gruesomeness of it can help sway someone's mind.
00:24:11.960 And I also want to note that that's not actually my goal with the journalism here.
00:24:16.600 As many people on the right accused me of trying to garner sympathy for illegal immigrants
00:24:21.100 through my work.
00:24:21.720 I'm just trying to document the Trump administration's immigration policy in action and how that's
00:24:27.080 panning out.
00:24:27.920 A lot of people also told me that I shouldn't be posting this stuff and that it's bad that
00:24:31.960 I'm posting this because I will be deported soon enough.
00:24:34.360 But I'll have you know that I'm a child of United States citizens.
00:24:38.460 Oh, well, sorry.
00:24:39.920 Sorry to the people hoping that they had a chance there.
00:24:42.600 Although, hey, maybe we should start deporting people with American citizenship.
00:24:46.300 I've actually seen a funny post where the meme where it was like, oh, just because you
00:24:51.740 know, you had a fudging rat infestation or a bug infestation that's in your house, right?
00:24:57.120 That it was home born.
00:24:58.900 That doesn't mean it's a good thing.
00:25:00.020 I do have the infestation that you need to remove.
00:25:02.820 Cancer is a so-called natural thing that your body can produce, but it doesn't mean that
00:25:06.360 it should be there to stay.
00:25:08.060 And it would actually be harmful for you to keep it there.
00:25:10.860 You're setting me up by saying cancer and infestation.
00:25:14.440 I disavow those, but I do think we should look at...
00:25:16.100 Was that a euphemism?
00:25:16.740 I don't know.
00:25:17.180 I do think we should look at denaturalizing people like Zoron.
00:25:20.100 These paperwork Americans are a big problem.
00:25:23.420 That's why the term exists, paperwork American.
00:25:25.460 They're American on a technicality versus people that have been here, that have stake
00:25:28.800 in the country, et cetera, et cetera.
00:25:30.780 And I do think people loving those accusations that you're somehow trying to undermine our
00:25:35.460 deportation operation, I think it's just ridiculous.
00:25:37.580 I think if anything, this is useful for people to see that, hey, they're actually doing things.
00:25:43.040 Because I think the concern from a lot of people on the right is that we're not deporting
00:25:45.760 enough, that we're not involved enough.
00:25:47.980 We really aren't.
00:25:48.760 I mean, as far as the courts go, I don't know if it caught in the second part of the
00:25:52.440 audio because I repeated myself again.
00:25:53.800 But there's something like five to ten deportations, a relatively low amount given how many people
00:26:00.080 come through the court and are actually eligible to be deported and detained, but ultimately
00:26:04.840 aren't.
00:26:05.160 I've sat in on many court cases where the judge will say that they are eligible for expedited
00:26:09.840 removal, but the ICE agents didn't have them on their target list or for one reason,
00:26:13.860 another or another, if the processing center had too many people or there's other litigation
00:26:17.640 that is ongoing.
00:26:19.060 There are many other eligible people to be deported at these courthouses that they aren't
00:26:23.260 doing.
00:26:24.320 It depends on how you look at it.
00:26:25.700 That means there's a lot more to ramp up if the administration wanted to.
00:26:29.240 Yeah.
00:26:30.040 Well, dude.
00:26:30.740 Well, thanks for joining me in studio.
00:26:32.980 This is, again, the first ever in-person live show hit.
00:26:37.640 This is great.
00:26:38.960 We'll be back tomorrow at noon.
00:26:40.980 Alad, where can people find you to find more?
00:26:42.600 Yeah.
00:26:42.980 Tate, thanks for giving me the opportunity to platform some of my immigration reporting.
00:26:46.140 In addition to my White House reporting, you can find a lot more videos of my coverage
00:26:51.320 at these courthouses and ICE activity at Alad Eliyahu, on Instagram and Twitter, at Alad
00:26:59.400 Eliyahu.
00:26:59.940 Thank you guys for tuning in and long live Tatecast.
00:27:03.620 Let's go.
00:27:04.160 Let's go.
00:27:04.520 Well, yeah, we'll be back here tomorrow at noon for another hour.
00:27:08.060 Another Power Hour, Patriot Power Hour.
00:27:10.020 We'll be back tonight for TimCast IRL at 8 p.m.
00:27:12.540 It's going to be a great show.
00:27:13.640 That's Matt.
00:27:14.400 Matt's here tonight, right?
00:27:15.120 Matt Gates.
00:27:15.480 We have Matt Gates.
00:27:16.320 The Matt Gates.
00:27:17.340 Representative.
00:27:18.140 So that's going to be a great show tonight.
00:27:19.560 Be there.
00:27:20.180 You can follow me on X on Instagram at RealTateBrown.
00:27:22.680 And we'll see you guys later.
00:27:24.580 Thank you.