The Culture War - Tim Pool - Demand For UNMASKING ICE Grows, Immigration Court Arrests CONTINUE ft. Elaad Eliahu

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00:00:58.420 No, no.

00:00:59.000 The new guys have been surprisingly orderly.

00:01:01.540 All of the photographers are desperate to try to catch a story to try to slander ice.

00:01:06.180 All the photographers there are trying to catch the most dramatic moments and whatnot.

00:01:10.280 And I mean, these scenes do look very dramatic.

00:01:12.080 But no, for by and large part, things are extremely orderly.

00:01:16.560 They're not beating up or I don't know.

00:01:20.200 They're not hanging.

00:01:21.240 They're not killing.

00:01:21.820 They're not assaulting any of the people who are there detaining.

00:01:25.820 If you leave in an orderly way, they'll escort you gently, frankly, in my estimation.

00:01:30.900 Hey, guys.

00:01:31.340 Tate Brown here holding it down for Tim Pool.

00:01:33.540 I have a great interview here with Alad Ilyahu, our very own Alad Ilyahu.

00:01:37.320 He has been on the ground in New York at the courthouses covering the ICE deportation operation.

00:01:42.860 They've been hanging out in the courthouses and grabbing the illegals. 0.99

00:01:45.400 It's been quite something to watch.

00:01:47.400 So I've got a great interview here.

00:01:48.800 Check it out.

00:01:49.640 My name is Alad Ilyahu.

00:01:51.020 I'm a White House correspondent here at TimCast.

00:01:53.720 On my off time, I cover immigration and the Trump administration's new immigration initiatives

00:01:59.920 and how they play out around the country.

00:02:02.300 So they've recently been trying to obviously up their numbers.

00:02:05.400 And the president Trump administration...

00:02:07.200 Are we Gucci?

00:02:07.620 So part of the new initiatives of trying to increase their numbers have been DHS and ICE

00:02:13.780 agents going to different immigration courthouses around the country, mainly in New York City

00:02:19.360 and California is where they have the highest numbers.

00:02:21.520 And they are waiting outside of courtrooms of court proceedings for illegal immigrants.

00:02:27.080 And oftentimes they are taking them before their proceedings have fully finished because

00:02:32.180 they are eligible for so-called expedited removals.

00:02:34.240 So the administration and DHS is prioritizing those who came here in the past two years

00:02:38.980 or those who have a criminal record.

00:02:40.480 And then after their court hearings, they are grabbing them.

00:02:42.840 And then you'll see many of these dramatic scenes outside of the courtrooms going on.

00:02:47.280 And despite these very dramatic scenes that I film while at these courthouses, only five

00:02:52.380 to ten illegal immigrants are being detained per day at these different courthouses.

00:02:58.600 So you're seeing that.

00:02:59.960 And actually this video...

00:03:01.160 Why is this important right now?

00:03:02.160 This is making national news because this video in particular is of a man who was actually

00:03:06.700 separated from his wife who chose to resist arrest with him and his family.

00:03:11.280 So they all chose to grab each other.

00:03:13.080 The agents were forced to forcibly remove them from one another.

00:03:17.100 And then if you want to scroll down to the next clip, DHS agents, you know, while being

00:03:23.520 physically agitated by the woman also who is an illegal immigrant who was frustrated

00:03:28.120 with her husband being taken away, this DHS agent reacted to him being grabbed and shoved

00:03:33.180 this woman to the ground. 0.91

00:03:34.440 This got a lot of pushback initially.

00:03:37.000 I believe the spokesperson for DHS, I believe her name is Tricia McLaughlin.

00:03:41.160 I'm sorry if I'm butchering that.

00:03:42.380 She said something along the lines of this being unbecoming of ICE agents.

00:03:45.540 Despite that, he is actually back on duty.

00:03:48.860 So 26 Federal Plaza, where these ICE agents are hanging outside of these immigration courts

00:03:53.560 and doing these arrests, has increasingly become a flashpoint.

00:03:56.940 Democrats and activists are often going there to protest what they see as poor treatment of

00:04:02.340 people going through the court process, poor treatment of people in the processing facility

00:04:07.240 on another floor where they take them to prepare them to be taken to a detention facility

00:04:11.260 to ultimately be deported from.

00:04:13.320 And so that's why, you know, we're seeing a lot more of these scenes out of these courtrooms.

00:04:17.960 Yeah, I mean, so from my perspective, I was going through it earlier.

00:04:23.180 I was showing some of the polling as how deporting illegal immigrants and illegal criminals is

00:04:28.560 extremely popular, even with Democrats.

00:04:30.340 This is a very popular position.

00:04:32.340 So going into the election, you had the brocasters, I think is what you would call them.

00:04:37.120 That's like your Rogans, your Tim Dillans, your Theo Vons.

00:04:40.360 You know, they were behind Trump.

00:04:41.800 They were supporting Trump, these sorts of things.

00:04:43.540 And then as soon as videos like this started coming out, and a lot of them were your videos,

00:04:49.440 everyone just soured really quickly.

00:04:51.340 And they were like, oh, but this is so mean, these sorts of things.

00:04:54.740 I mean, how else is ICE?

00:04:56.120 From my perspective, I'm sitting here, I'm like, how else is ICE supposed to conduct these

00:05:00.260 operations, especially when they're not getting any support from these blue state and blue city

00:05:04.920 governments?

00:05:05.900 Totally.

00:05:06.300 And there's a few things at play here.

00:05:07.560 So these are some of the more dramatic scenes.

00:05:09.280 Most of the detainments and arrests don't look like this.

00:05:12.540 If we wanted to scroll through some of the others, most of them don't look like this.

00:05:16.880 But it's the power of video.

00:05:19.440 It's very potent, the power of capturing live arrests.

00:05:24.100 We could be sympathetic to criminals if we see, you know, how they're treated after they're

00:05:28.540 arrested.

00:05:29.100 So this is ultimately, I think, the safest and most reasonable way to go about it oftentimes,

00:05:33.440 because if they've said, I believe Todd Lyons has said that if they're not going to get

00:05:38.560 them at these courthouses, or I believe it wasn't, it wasn't Todd Lyons.

00:05:41.460 It was the border czar, Tom Homan, who said that if they're not going to get them at the

00:05:46.680 courthouses in an orderly way, they're going to be forced to go into the neighborhoods.

00:05:50.000 If they're not able to go after them in the jails, then they're going to have to be going

00:05:52.980 through the neighborhoods and then really break neighborhood trust with law enforcement,

00:05:56.940 which would lead to a more detrimental situation.

00:05:59.140 Has, I mean, you've been covering this for a while now, had things ramped up after the

00:06:04.340 Big Beautiful Bill's passing?

00:06:05.880 I mean, have we seen a thicker presence of federal agents?

00:06:09.100 So the number of agents there, frankly, actually hasn't increased since the passing of the Big

00:06:14.140 Beautiful Bill.

00:06:14.720 The number of detainments at these immigration courts has actually gone down since the President

00:06:19.240 Trump administration has began.

00:06:21.040 And this is because as they began taking more and more people out from these courthouses,

00:06:25.140 more people have been suing and they're caught up in a lot of litigation.

00:06:28.020 Also, there's issues with people with the processing facility allegedly not having enough room

00:06:33.780 to house all the people that they were being detaining.

00:06:36.200 So between that and a couple of other factors, they've definitely been decreasing the numbers

00:06:39.760 of daily detainments, at least outside of the courthouses that I've witnessed.

00:06:43.560 Is it evident, because I love ICE, I'm a big ICE backer, there's no question about it,

00:06:48.440 but there is something to be said of they've had an influx of agents, a lot of them not coming

00:06:53.940 from law enforcement backgrounds in some cases.

00:06:56.160 So there's been accusations that some of these arrests have been sloppy.

00:06:59.620 I mean, obviously, the guy hit sticking the lady was dramatic.

00:07:03.180 And a lot of people are saying, OK, maybe, I don't know.

00:07:06.100 I don't know.

00:07:06.400 That's neither here nor there.

00:07:07.880 Have you seen, do these ICE agents feel, do you see a lot of sloppiness in a lot of instances?

00:07:13.300 I'm surprised at the lack of sloppiness.

00:07:14.760 The person who has actually shoved the woman to the ground was a supervisor and was hired

00:07:19.020 way before any of these recent Big Beautiful Bill or the signing bonus or what have you.

00:07:23.580 That guy wasn't getting in any of that.

00:07:25.240 This gentleman in the plaid shirt who's now back on duty.

00:07:28.580 No, the new guys have been surprisingly orderly.

00:07:31.540 All of the photographers are desperate to try to catch a story to try to slander ICE.

00:07:36.160 All the photographers there are trying to catch the most dramatic moments and whatnot.

00:07:40.020 And I mean, these scenes do look very dramatic, but no, for by and large part, things are extremely

00:07:45.580 orderly.

00:07:46.600 They're not beating up or I don't know.

00:07:50.200 They're not hanging.

00:07:51.240 They're not killing.

00:07:51.800 They're not assaulting any of the people who are there detaining.

00:07:55.820 If you leave in an orderly way, they'll escort you gently, frankly, in my estimation.

00:08:02.100 Yeah.

00:08:02.300 If you go scroll down a little bit more.

00:08:04.220 Most arrests, if you could keep going, those are some of the protests outside.

00:08:07.220 But this is the very dramatic arrest, but most of the arrests are actually extremely

00:08:11.560 orderly.

00:08:11.860 Keep going.

00:08:12.320 Go like three or so post down if you could, please.

00:08:16.020 Like many look like that one.

00:08:18.160 Something like this.

00:08:19.220 So the guy will ask for his court papers.

00:08:22.240 The agent will have a packet in his hand where it actually has all the information of

00:08:26.280 the illegal migrant.

00:08:27.920 They'll make sure it's the correct person.

00:08:30.240 And then they'll just orderly escort them down the hall.

00:08:32.780 Sometimes I'll try to ask them what country they're from.

00:08:34.840 They usually don't tell me which, either because they're embarrassed or don't speak

00:08:39.760 English.

00:08:41.080 In such cases.

00:08:43.620 So yeah, but there's been a lot of consternation from the left over this because, again, they

00:08:47.540 think this discourages people from showing up to court.

00:08:50.240 They're uneasy with these agents being masked.

00:08:52.500 I believe Tim was also uneasy with these agents being masked.

00:08:55.220 Some agents also used to obscure their ICE badges to, like, the last moment, which could

00:09:03.040 be a concern for some people.

00:09:05.000 But I believe this is actually, by and large part, the most orderly way to go about this.

00:09:09.120 Here's another example that I'm talking about.

00:09:10.600 This really demonstrates what's going on there.

00:09:12.620 These are hallways around courtrooms.

00:09:15.500 Most of the people who go to their court hearings aren't being detained.

00:09:20.080 But there is this sense of, you know, this illegal migrant, illegal migrant woman with

00:09:26.600 their presumably American child walking down these hallways with ICE agents just lining

00:09:31.160 the halls.

00:09:32.060 That is a sort of, like, masked agents.

00:09:34.580 And there is a sort of unease.

00:09:35.940 I will say, I don't...

00:09:37.980 I talked to Todd Lyons about this, the acting director of ICE.

00:09:40.640 He said, you know, he doesn't like it, but he doesn't want to encourage, you know, things

00:09:44.260 that could promote violence against his agents.

00:09:46.480 And I understand that.

00:09:47.340 But these guys are all armed.

00:09:48.940 And, you know, you're getting a nice signing bonus.

00:09:50.680 And this isn't an easy job, but it's an important job.

00:09:53.200 And I don't want people in law enforcement to get attacked.

00:09:55.780 But I think there is this uneasiness of not being able to, you know, identify.

00:10:01.140 I don't want people masked up.

00:10:02.200 I didn't like it when Antifa masked up.

00:10:03.820 I don't like it when the left masks up.

00:10:05.900 And I understand that the consequences will be some of these ICE agents getting doxxed.

00:10:10.440 But guess what?

00:10:11.120 There are also just a handful of ICE agents who don't wear the masks and have dealt with

00:10:15.240 the consequences, and they've been fine.

00:10:16.700 So, for example, this short little girl, Serge, in the video before this, that one.

00:10:21.140 Yeah, you see this short little woman? 1.00

00:10:22.900 She's not wearing a mask, if you want to scroll to the beginning of this.

00:10:25.300 Yeah, that woman is, I believe, also a supervisor. 0.99

00:10:30.380 She's not wearing a mask.

00:10:31.520 And then the guy who shoved the other lady, you know, he wasn't wearing a mask, ultimately.

00:10:36.400 And I think you lose trust.

00:10:40.320 And it's very bad optically.

00:10:42.820 Yeah, well, I mean.

00:10:43.840 And I understand the need to protect our agents.

00:10:45.840 But look, you're strapped in New York City.

00:10:47.480 Nobody in New York City is allowed to have a gun.

00:10:49.100 All of these guys are still armed.

00:10:51.080 Well, I think the problem is, like, look, we're trying to, we need mass deportations.

00:10:55.100 There's tens of millions, upwards of 30, 40 million people, to some estimates, of legal

00:10:59.140 immigrants in the country.

00:10:59.880 And it's, like, I'm not so concerned about the trust of the institutions.

00:11:03.680 I just need them to conduct their job as efficiently as possible.

00:11:07.200 And if they're getting docks and there's people showing up to their houses and giving

00:11:10.200 them a hard time, that impedes the operation, the mass deportation operation.

00:11:14.620 So it's, like, I'm willing in the short term to make people feel a little uneasy if what

00:11:19.160 we're trying to do is get millions and millions of legal immigrants out. 0.83

00:11:22.180 I'm okay with them doing these sorts of things.

00:11:25.980 And it's, like, if you don't want a mask, that's great if you want the smoke.

00:11:28.140 But it's, like, look, I don't need these guys to be thought leaders.

00:11:32.080 I don't need these guys to be, you know, brave and putting their face out there.

00:11:35.740 I need them to get the job done, right?

00:11:36.980 I need them to get illegals out of the country. 1.00

00:11:39.280 So, I mean, I don't need to test them.

00:11:41.940 I don't need, yeah, I don't need them to be, like I said, I don't need them to be thought

00:11:44.500 leaders.

00:11:45.220 I just need them to, and I don't care if, I really don't care if it makes people feel uneasy.

00:11:49.240 If you're here illegally, you should feel uneasy no matter what, because you're here illegally. 1.00

00:11:52.380 You're breaking the law.

00:11:53.300 Totally.

00:11:53.660 I ultimately think it's counterproductive, though, because if it's DHS and ICE agents'

00:11:58.340 goal to try to deport as many people as possible, then they need to stay popular and writ large

00:12:03.460 among the populace and politicians while they do so, or they won't be able to fulfill that

00:12:07.720 goal.

00:12:08.360 So, I think this is a small, I don't, I don't think, I think most ICE agents would be fined

00:12:12.320 if they were unmasked.

00:12:13.180 As I said, there are already a handful of agents who chose not to wear the mask.

00:12:17.600 I've spoke to agents both who do and don't wear masks.

00:12:20.740 And one person told me, you know, he'd be popular if I got, I'd be popular if I got

00:12:24.260 docs in my neighborhood.

00:12:25.280 Like, they all appreciate agents there.

00:12:27.160 But I do think that it does give people an easy way to sort of slander them.

00:12:33.140 If you're not proud of your work, why are you wearing, like, if you're proud of your work,

00:12:35.900 why are you hiding your face?

00:12:36.940 I think all the arguments that people use against Antifa and the far left hiding their face

00:12:41.580 really does also apply here for law enforcement.

00:12:44.880 Well, I think, I think at this point, to your first point about keeping, you know, popularity

00:12:50.040 up, keeping a, you know, public opinion of ICE popular, I think at this point, everyone

00:12:55.480 that has an opinion on ICE has, you know, they've, they've, they've, they've come to a conclusion

00:12:59.660 whether they like them or not.

00:13:00.700 I don't think there's anybody that's like on the fence about ICE.

00:13:02.640 So, I don't really know if there's much more that ICE could do to really, you know, win

00:13:06.880 over new supporters, I guess.

00:13:09.000 No, I will say, no, I mean, I think they could lose supporters over this.

00:13:12.200 I think there's a percent of people, maybe small, maybe in the teens, maybe in the 10

00:13:18.260 to 20% of people who support law enforcement, but do genuinely feel uncomfortable with masked

00:13:23.620 law enforcement doing their job.

00:13:25.160 And I'll give you an example.

00:13:26.120 Our boss, Tim Poole, he feels very uncomfortable.

00:13:28.160 He said before on the show, I don't know if he'll change his mind, he changes his mind 0.99

00:13:30.980 often, but he said like, no, this is bullshit. 0.99

00:13:32.980 And the ICE agents shouldn't wear these masks. 0.99

00:13:35.860 And, you know, they really do look like a form of secret police in some way.

00:13:39.880 I totally support their, you know, what they're trying to do.

00:13:43.020 And they're just enforcing the law.

00:13:44.220 They don't write the law.

00:13:45.920 And I think it's ultimately hurting their cause.

00:13:48.160 The masks, like some of these videos, they, here's the thing too, as some on the left have

00:13:53.420 said, I don't know if we caught it in the second part of the audio or what have you.

00:13:56.940 Some people say that the intimidation is part of what they're trying to do.

00:14:01.460 Part of the, like factoring in, like the cruelty is the point, I think is what the liberals

00:14:06.800 in the left side says about this.

00:14:08.520 So if that is true, then the masks are actually playing into that.

00:14:12.520 But I think ultimately we saw with, and, you know, it's unfortunate this, the environment

00:14:17.040 we're in, but we've seen that the left is willing to use violence as a means to shut

00:14:22.040 people up and to impede on their opponent's goals.

00:14:26.340 And so I'm looking, I guess I will go back to my first point, which is my goal ultimately

00:14:30.420 is to get as many illegal immigrants out of the country.

00:14:32.300 And as if, if this causes them to lose, you know, 10, 20% of the country support wise,

00:14:36.960 I think that's worth it because the alternative is, I mean, you don't know what could happen

00:14:41.500 to these guys or their families.

00:14:42.600 I mean, we just can't put it past.

00:14:44.320 We're seeing coordination.

00:14:45.160 I mean, like with the Charlie Kirk murder, there's now like, you know, a lot of people

00:14:48.200 speculating there was coordination.

00:14:49.660 Who knows what these black block operations in New York and Chicago and in Portland, I mean, 0.91

00:14:55.100 they probably have a list of these guys and their families and these sorts of things.

00:14:58.060 And it's like, whatever these guys can do to insulate themselves from violence, uh, you

00:15:03.560 know, vigilante violence, I think is worth it because ultimately, I mean, they've had

00:15:08.920 trouble.

00:15:09.280 They've had, they've had some difficulties hiring in certain, in certain places.

00:15:12.840 And I want to maintain as many agents as possible.

00:15:16.800 And, uh, I don't want to see these guys getting, you know, getting roughed up by these leftist

00:15:21.780 activists.

00:15:22.700 I think they're roughed up would be in reverse, but it's, well, you know, I mean, like we saw

00:15:27.360 with Kirk and we've seen with others is they're willing to go there.

00:15:30.300 They're willing to, to, to harm these guys.

00:15:33.000 And, and ultimately I just don't see why they need to unmask like for public.

00:15:37.320 They're already, they're deported.

00:15:38.600 These, these people that would be uneasy with, with ICE agents being masked, they're going

00:15:42.400 to be uneasy with them anyway, because they're doing something they don't support, which

00:15:45.560 is they're totally, I will say that people who make the argument that ICE agents shouldn't

00:15:49.520 be wearing masks are almost exactly the same people who don't care about the far left

00:15:55.460 and black bloc and Antifa wearing masks and using that as a way to protect their identities

00:15:59.960 while committing crimes.

00:16:01.060 So that is on me.

00:16:02.420 There's probably a narrow group of people that just don't want masking across the board,

00:16:06.180 whether it be Antifa or whatever.

00:16:07.320 I think there's like a libertarian leaning type who's like anti law enforcement writ large,

00:16:15.020 anti authority figure writ large who feels that way.

00:16:18.120 I will say though, after, um, the dramatic video of the, the gentleman shoving the woman

00:16:22.840 to the ground, which went viral and, um, many Democrats, uh, Congress people ended up commenting

00:16:28.300 on, um, that guy was put on leave ultimately brought back.

00:16:31.520 But, uh, I spoke to some of the agents around that gentleman and after the fact of that video

00:16:36.740 going out and he told me there were efforts to dox all of them, all of the guys in the

00:16:40.700 video.

00:16:41.040 So, and I, I, I said, obviously like, of course, and that's unfortunate and, um, you know, you,

00:16:45.760 you guys are masked up, but like there are consequences that kind of come with the job.

00:16:51.960 I'm not saying that a consequence should be getting doxed.

00:16:55.100 Yeah.

00:16:55.860 I, well, I think, I think they, I think the government should protect their, their agents.

00:17:00.140 Should, should regular police wear masks too?

00:17:03.300 Cause some people will threaten to dox police.

00:17:04.840 Yeah, I mean, but they're not, they're not conducting as abrasive of an operation as mass deportations.

00:17:09.520 Like the police have, they're doing the same thing they've done for hundreds of years versus

00:17:13.260 what ICE is doing is actually, unfortunately is unprecedented, which is mass deportations

00:17:17.380 that hasn't been done since like Eisenhower and this, at least in the scale that the Trump

00:17:22.860 administration is envisioning.

00:17:24.380 And so, yeah, I mean, they, they are conducting an operation that is much more abrasive. 0.96

00:17:28.660 There's a large proportion of the country that really just wants to kill them.

00:17:31.900 Um, and so it's like, I'm sitting here like, yeah, I mean, I think this is at least in the

00:17:35.980 short term, the, the solution until Tim made a good point, which is he just doesn't like

00:17:41.220 that there's an environment in which federal agents have to mask for their lives.

00:17:44.520 Like that just shows you that the country is in a position that is just untenable, which

00:17:49.360 is that they have to mask for their lives.

00:17:51.280 Like, well, frankly, we should be able to, we should be able to crack down on these people

00:17:55.040 preemptively.

00:17:55.980 Anybody advocating for violence against ICE agents, I mean, should be, um, prosecuted to

00:18:00.560 the full extent of the law. 0.91

00:18:01.480 So that's why I ultimately think, you know, it would be dumb of somebody to try.

00:18:05.080 And if they do, then we have law enforcement answers to that.

00:18:08.320 Right.

00:18:08.460 Um, do you think cruelty is part of the point so-called here?

00:18:11.760 No, no, no.

00:18:12.880 I mean, that just doesn't really track with what they're, what they're trying to do.

00:18:17.660 I mean, the, the cruelty is typically because of, of them fighting back.

00:18:22.260 That's when, or cruel, when it looks cruel.

00:18:24.580 That's what every arrest.

00:18:25.440 It gets physical.

00:18:26.420 People resist looks like.

00:18:28.040 Yeah.

00:18:28.280 When you resist, this is what the arrest will look like.

00:18:29.980 When it gets physical, then they have to get physical in return.

00:18:33.040 And then that's when the clips just look ugly of them, like hit sticking someone.

00:18:36.060 It's like, well, I mean, that's, that's what you have to do.

00:18:38.800 I don't think these ICE agents really want to be like going out and just like, you know,

00:18:43.480 hit sticking random illegals.

00:18:44.900 Like that, that's, that's not, especially if they're masking, they're already concerned

00:18:48.880 about, you know, they're getting doxxed.

00:18:51.660 Why would they make it worse for themselves?

00:18:53.100 And like you were saying, that's why I asked the question earlier where I was like, I mean,

00:18:56.660 are these guys sloppy?

00:18:57.760 And you're saying no.

00:18:58.420 I mean, because that's what I've seen.

00:18:59.600 These guys seem to actually be really professional, especially in their new hires.

00:19:03.180 And they're, and I think part of that is because they know, they know the pressure.

00:19:06.280 They know that there's a lot of eyeballs on them.

00:19:08.000 And they have a million cameras on them.

00:19:09.760 Yeah.

00:19:10.140 People hoping they're about to make a mistake so they can like take a picture and sell it

00:19:15.420 to the New York times.

00:19:16.320 Right.

00:19:16.620 I think frankly, they've been very orderly and coached very well.

00:19:20.880 It seems.

00:19:21.320 Yeah.

00:19:21.500 I think these guys are patriots.

00:19:22.660 They just, they want to, they want mass deportations and they know that they're being on their

00:19:26.740 best behavior and whatnot is how you conduct that.

00:19:30.120 One more.

00:19:30.680 Can I bring one fascinating tidbit in?

00:19:32.260 Yeah.

00:19:32.360 All right.

00:19:32.480 Let's roll this clip back if we can, Serge.

00:19:34.500 So I had this go viral on Instagram.

00:19:37.920 Yeah.

00:19:38.140 This clip got 15 some odd million views.

00:19:40.280 And I was reading through the comments.

00:19:41.200 Very funny.

00:19:42.000 Somebody pointed out to me, it's like, yeah, this man's being detained by a little Hispanic 1.00

00:19:46.300 woman, an Asian guy on the right, this fat black guy in front of us, and then a white

00:19:52.240 guy.

00:19:52.440 So it's a very diverse group of ICE agents who are detaining and taking this man away.

00:19:57.240 It's like a community college pamphlet is arresting you. 0.71

00:19:59.660 It's the black guy, the Asian guy, the little Hispanic woman, the tall, fat white guy, the 0.99

00:20:04.400 back right.

00:20:05.180 So this is a very multicultural group of ICE agents who are enforcing our immigration

00:20:10.980 laws outside of these courts.

00:20:12.380 I think that's a fascinating aspect because usually these people would get, be accused

00:20:16.020 of being racist, but now they're self-loathing minority racists.

00:20:19.760 I mean. 0.99

00:20:20.160 That must suck if you're like on the left. 0.95

00:20:22.040 It's like when the melting pot begins to hate. 0.97

00:20:24.540 The melting pot has now come full circle and now there are guys. 0.71

00:20:27.660 There are a lot of very large, intimidating black ICE agents at these immigration courts. 0.99

00:20:33.020 They hire big dudes.

00:20:34.680 I kind of want the brothers on the front line.

00:20:36.740 Yeah, there are a lot of big dudes.

00:20:37.980 I kind of want that.

00:20:38.280 And there are a lot of young guns too who like grab a guy and run away and I'll barely

00:20:41.500 be able to catch him on video because it's like a young 23, 24, 25 year old who's just

00:20:46.200 excited to be there and excited to be on the job.

00:20:48.760 I'm sure ICE, I'm sure they're listening.

00:20:50.280 I'm sure they've done this.

00:20:52.180 They should really be scouting like the mid-major college football programs for like linebackers

00:20:56.560 because these guys aren't going to make the NFL.

00:20:58.720 And then I don't know what their job prospects look like.

00:21:02.040 I think they could be really useful for ICE.

00:21:04.240 I mean, they're quick, agile, can lay a lake if they need to, if things get physical.

00:21:09.500 I think if you're out there and you're with an ICE hiring, I would consider tabling at

00:21:14.060 these mid-major schools.

00:21:15.580 And you know, there's a lot of downtime at the courts here.

00:21:18.940 I'm usually staking out for at least an hour or so to get an arrest.

00:21:22.180 And so are these ICE agents.

00:21:23.380 And so these guys are just chilling and they're regular dudes.

00:21:26.280 They're really bros, bros.

00:21:27.540 They're cracking jokes to one another.

00:21:29.120 They're laughing and palling around.

00:21:30.960 So I know you only see them in the context of them grabbing somebody.

00:21:33.980 But then on the off hours, we're just kicking back, you know, cracking jokes to one another,

00:21:38.080 having a chill time.

00:21:39.080 These are just regular dudes.

00:21:40.340 And a lot of them are viewers of Timcast.

00:21:43.180 And so they've been a lot of very chill dudes.

00:21:46.020 All of them follow my work.

00:21:47.500 And I like to think they think I do a great job.

00:21:49.700 And it's cool because I'll post something and they'll be like, oh, funny video you posted

00:21:52.560 to me last night.

00:21:54.100 That's great, dude.

00:21:55.380 I love it.

00:21:56.120 I have one more, because we can go over, because we lost like five minutes.

00:21:59.480 I just had like one more kind of, I don't know your thoughts on it, because you've seen

00:22:02.500 this, because a lot of people are interacting with your tweets.

00:22:04.640 I'm very frustrated.

00:22:05.700 I brought it up earlier where you have this segment of the country who got behind Trump.

00:22:11.560 A lot of these people are public figures who got behind Trump for other reasons, even

00:22:16.960 though Trump's biggest issue was immigration, he made that very clear, and it always has 0.55

00:22:19.900 been.

00:22:20.680 And then now that these ice raids are conducting, they get very uncomfortable.

00:22:24.540 They start freaking out, seeing these videos.

00:22:27.300 And I'm sitting here like, who did you think you were voting for?

00:22:29.620 Like, this is his thing.

00:22:31.500 This is why I voted for him.

00:22:33.640 What has your reaction been?

00:22:34.920 Are you seeing a lot of these guys that are kind of in the middle, supposedly, that are

00:22:38.180 flaking because of these videos?

00:22:40.560 I mean...

00:22:40.880 I think it's easy to support something in principle, and then in the real world, caught

00:22:45.800 on camera in its most dramatic effect, and in its worst case scenarios, it's a harder

00:22:52.700 pill for certain people to swallow.

00:22:54.240 Most policy, when it's enacted, you don't really see much of it, but it's really eye-capturing.

00:23:02.700 I think it was inevitable that he was going to lose some people.

00:23:04.700 And I also think it was a really, it's important to notice that there's a sliding scale for

00:23:08.940 how much people, and what type of deportations people in our country support.

00:23:13.580 So for example, I think people, it's like a majority position for people to support people,

00:23:18.920 DHS, detaining and deporting people who got here in the past two years, or have criminal

00:23:22.560 records.

00:23:23.180 But then I think you find decreasing support when you find, oh, what if the person had

00:23:26.780 a family here?

00:23:27.660 What if they have a child here?

00:23:29.440 Then you start seeing support go down.

00:23:31.300 And then, oh, what if it's a person who's been here for 20 years?

00:23:33.880 Even if they don't have papers, a lot of Americans are still very sympathetic to people.

00:23:38.100 Illegal immigrants, nonetheless, but people who've still been here 20 years, you'll probably 1.00

00:23:42.780 be under 50% for people who support deporting people like that.

00:23:45.560 So I think you do see a sliding scale.

00:23:49.100 And then as things get more visual, people can get a little bit more flaky on it.

00:23:55.240 I think another place where this effect is true, it's like people who are very pro-choice,

00:24:00.500 but then when you see literal images of what an abortion really is in practice, the ghoulishness,

00:24:08.380 gruesomeness of it can help sway someone's mind.

00:24:11.960 And I also want to note that that's not actually my goal with the journalism here.

00:24:16.600 As many people on the right accused me of trying to garner sympathy for illegal immigrants

00:24:21.100 through my work.

00:24:21.720 I'm just trying to document the Trump administration's immigration policy in action and how that's

00:24:27.080 panning out.

00:24:27.920 A lot of people also told me that I shouldn't be posting this stuff and that it's bad that

00:24:31.960 I'm posting this because I will be deported soon enough.

00:24:34.360 But I'll have you know that I'm a child of United States citizens.

00:24:38.460 Oh, well, sorry.

00:24:39.920 Sorry to the people hoping that they had a chance there.

00:24:42.600 Although, hey, maybe we should start deporting people with American citizenship. 0.99

00:24:46.300 I've actually seen a funny post where the meme where it was like, oh, just because you

00:24:51.740 know, you had a fudging rat infestation or a bug infestation that's in your house, right?

00:24:57.120 That it was home born.

00:24:58.900 That doesn't mean it's a good thing.

00:25:00.020 I do have the infestation that you need to remove.

00:25:02.820 Cancer is a so-called natural thing that your body can produce, but it doesn't mean that

00:25:06.360 it should be there to stay.

00:25:08.060 And it would actually be harmful for you to keep it there.

00:25:10.860 You're setting me up by saying cancer and infestation.

00:25:14.440 I disavow those, but I do think we should look at...

00:25:16.100 Was that a euphemism?

00:25:16.740 I don't know.

00:25:17.180 I do think we should look at denaturalizing people like Zoron. 1.00

00:25:20.100 These paperwork Americans are a big problem. 1.00

00:25:23.420 That's why the term exists, paperwork American.

00:25:25.460 They're American on a technicality versus people that have been here, that have stake 0.95

00:25:28.800 in the country, et cetera, et cetera.

00:25:30.780 And I do think people loving those accusations that you're somehow trying to undermine our 0.88

00:25:35.460 deportation operation, I think it's just ridiculous.

00:25:37.580 I think if anything, this is useful for people to see that, hey, they're actually doing things.

00:25:43.040 Because I think the concern from a lot of people on the right is that we're not deporting

00:25:45.760 enough, that we're not involved enough.

00:25:47.980 We really aren't.

00:25:48.760 I mean, as far as the courts go, I don't know if it caught in the second part of the

00:25:52.440 audio because I repeated myself again.

00:25:53.800 But there's something like five to ten deportations, a relatively low amount given how many people

00:26:00.080 come through the court and are actually eligible to be deported and detained, but ultimately

00:26:04.840 aren't.

00:26:05.160 I've sat in on many court cases where the judge will say that they are eligible for expedited

00:26:09.840 removal, but the ICE agents didn't have them on their target list or for one reason,

00:26:13.860 another or another, if the processing center had too many people or there's other litigation

00:26:17.640 that is ongoing.

00:26:19.060 There are many other eligible people to be deported at these courthouses that they aren't

00:26:23.260 doing.

00:26:24.320 It depends on how you look at it.

00:26:25.700 That means there's a lot more to ramp up if the administration wanted to.

00:26:29.240 Yeah.

00:26:30.040 Well, dude.

00:26:30.740 Well, thanks for joining me in studio.

00:26:32.980 This is, again, the first ever in-person live show hit.

00:26:37.640 This is great.

00:26:38.960 We'll be back tomorrow at noon.

00:26:40.980 Alad, where can people find you to find more?

00:26:42.600 Yeah.

00:26:42.980 Tate, thanks for giving me the opportunity to platform some of my immigration reporting.

00:26:46.140 In addition to my White House reporting, you can find a lot more videos of my coverage

00:26:51.320 at these courthouses and ICE activity at Alad Eliyahu, on Instagram and Twitter, at Alad

00:26:59.400 Eliyahu.

00:26:59.940 Thank you guys for tuning in and long live Tatecast.

00:27:03.620 Let's go.

00:27:04.160 Let's go.

00:27:04.520 Well, yeah, we'll be back here tomorrow at noon for another hour.

00:27:08.060 Another Power Hour, Patriot Power Hour. 0.71

00:27:10.020 We'll be back tonight for TimCast IRL at 8 p.m.

00:27:12.540 It's going to be a great show.

00:27:13.640 That's Matt.

00:27:14.400 Matt's here tonight, right?

00:27:15.120 Matt Gates.

00:27:15.480 We have Matt Gates.

00:27:16.320 The Matt Gates.

00:27:17.340 Representative.

00:27:18.140 So that's going to be a great show tonight.

00:27:19.560 Be there.

00:27:20.180 You can follow me on X on Instagram at RealTateBrown.

00:27:22.680 And we'll see you guys later.

00:27:24.580 Thank you.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - October 07, 2025

Demand For UNMASKING ICE Grows, Immigration Court Arrests CONTINUE ft. Elaad Eliahu

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