The Culture War - Tim Pool - May 12, 2025


Democrats ARRESTED In MAJOR Voter Fraud Scheme, Texas BANS Chinese Land Ownership


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Texas AG Ken Paxton says judge and other officials arrested for vote harvesting crimes. Latino leaders and others have criticized the investigation as politically motivated. Texas House passes bill banning Chinese citizens from buying state land. Proponents of the measure say it s intended to target governments deemed hostile by the federal government.

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00:01:23.640 From the Washington Post, Texas AG says judge and other officials arrested for vote harvesting
00:01:31.300 crimes.
00:01:32.720 Republican AG Ken Paxton has led an effort to probe alleged voter fraud.
00:01:37.540 Latino leaders and others have criticized the investigation as politically motivated.
00:01:41.880 Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on Wednesday said six individuals, including a county judge
00:01:45.720 and a former elections administrator, were indicted and arrested for what Paxton described
00:01:50.340 as fraudulent vote harvesting scheme in the state's Frio County.
00:01:54.820 As part of a broad investigation, Latino civil rights leaders have criticized as politically
00:01:58.720 motivated.
00:02:00.560 According to Paxton's announcement, five people have been charged with vote harvesting, with
00:02:04.500 one individual being charged with tampering or fabricating physical evidence.
00:02:08.920 Further details of the case were not provided in the announcement.
00:02:12.060 Several public officials are among those arrested, including a judge, Rochelle Camacho,
00:02:15.480 Frio County Elections Administrator Carlos Segura, two Pearsall City Council members and a school
00:02:22.120 board member.
00:02:23.260 Segura and Pearsall City County member Ramiro Trevino declined to comment on the indictments
00:02:27.620 and other defendants did not respond to requests for comment or could not be reached.
00:02:33.660 The Texas Attorney General has long echoed President Donald Trump's baseless claims of
00:02:37.580 widespread election fraud and has engaged in aggressive prosecutions for alleged election
00:02:42.240 fraud crimes that have upended lives were resulted in few cases that went to trial and ended in
00:02:46.800 a conviction.
00:02:48.600 Civil rights groups and members of the community have raised concerns that Paxton's investigations
00:02:51.920 tend to target black or Latino voters and volunteers, many of whom are Democrats, and that as a result,
00:02:57.420 there's been a chilling effect on volunteers and community groups that for decades have worked
00:03:00.680 to increase turnout in a state with one of the nation's lowest voter participation rates.
00:03:05.380 Interesting, that's the direction they would go.
00:03:07.060 But there is another big story, because fraud is not just about whether or not an individual is going
00:03:12.940 to vote.
00:03:13.620 It's about illegal immigrants coming in. 0.89
00:03:16.420 And one of the big concerns we've had across this country is Chinese citizens, foreigners and 1.00
00:03:20.620 adversaries buying up our land.
00:03:22.480 So, of course, we will be talking with the Texas rep in a moment.
00:03:26.200 Here's the next story for which I want to give you the context before getting to this interview.
00:03:30.240 Texas House passes bill banning Chinese citizens from buying state land.
00:03:34.320 Chinese and other foreign citizens could soon be barred from purchasing homes in Texas under
00:03:40.380 a bill greenlit by the Texas House Thursday.
00:03:43.080 The measure, which passed the Republican-led chamber in a largely party-lined vote, was
00:03:47.700 significantly narrowed down from the original version.
00:03:50.660 Lawmakers voted to add exemptions for individuals residing in the United States legally on temporary
00:03:55.660 worker student visas.
00:03:57.260 Dual citizens and permanent residents are also not included in the ban.
00:04:00.220 The legislation would block any other citizens of China, Russia, North Korea and Iran from
00:04:05.980 purchasing homes, buying land or leasing apartments in Texas, and give the government power to
00:04:11.060 add other countries to that list.
00:04:13.380 Proponents of the proposal brought by State Senator Lois Kohlkhorst of Brenham say it's intended
00:04:20.280 to target governments and companies deemed hostile by the federal government.
00:04:23.620 Quote, our adversaries speak loudly and often about their ambitions and motivations to break
00:04:29.440 our country and its citizens.
00:04:31.380 The state of Texas will not allow that to happen.
00:04:34.460 So, my friends, we will be joined by Texas Rep Mitch Little, who also served as an impeachment
00:04:41.580 lawyer for Ken Paxson in the past.
00:04:44.080 Let me pull this up and get it loaded for you as we bring in the Texas Rep to give us a breakdown
00:04:48.480 of what's currently going on, and I believe we are currently loading, and we have the
00:04:53.300 rep here.
00:04:56.300 Rep Little, can you hear me?
00:04:58.920 Yes.
00:04:59.440 How are you?
00:05:00.620 I'm doing well.
00:05:01.840 How are you?
00:05:03.020 I'm great.
00:05:04.060 All right.
00:05:04.460 Well, thank you for joining me.
00:05:05.600 We have two big stories that I was hoping to talk to you about, so I'm glad you're able
00:05:08.340 to join.
00:05:08.700 The first is the arrest of these county officials, a judge for vote harvesting.
00:05:13.860 I'm wondering if you can give us a little bit of information on that and what happened
00:05:17.740 or what you know.
00:05:19.240 Yeah.
00:05:20.220 You're talking about in Uvalde, I believe.
00:05:22.720 I got the news about the same time you did.
00:05:26.240 My good friend and fellow freshman, Don McLaughlin, actually won as a Republican in that district,
00:05:31.080 but it wasn't for a lack of trying of cheating by the Democrats.
00:05:34.520 My understanding is there were a number of county officials who were involved in it, too.
00:05:38.980 This just highlights the need for the attorney general's office in the state of Texas to
00:05:42.600 be re-empowered or re-authorized to prosecute election fraud in the state.
00:05:46.860 It's more pervasive than anyone would have you believe.
00:05:49.760 The Democrats spent a lot of time a few nights ago at around 1130 at night trying to argue
00:05:54.380 that this is not a thing.
00:05:55.460 It doesn't happen.
00:05:56.380 It very much does.
00:05:58.040 I mean, do you have any specific details on what they're accused of doing or what happened?
00:06:03.840 They were going to an old folks home with ballots, handing them out, picking them up,
00:06:10.780 taking them.
00:06:11.780 And there was, as I understand it, it was a pay-by-ballot scheme.
00:06:17.660 Wow.
00:06:17.940 They were giving them however many dollars a name to go over to the old folks home with 0.87
00:06:21.800 ballots and pick them up.
00:06:23.960 Wow.
00:06:24.800 Yeah, I think, you know, we've seen a lot of investigative work on things like this.
00:06:28.720 I believe James O'Keefe had uncovered something like this years ago out of, I think it was
00:06:32.820 Minnesota, a video of a man with stacks of ballots, and he was bragging about how much
00:06:37.500 money he gets paid from collecting these things.
00:06:40.140 Do you think that's more widespread in Texas than just this one case?
00:06:44.560 Well, what are the chances that we caught the one person who's doing it or that we caught
00:06:49.740 the one ring that's doing it?
00:06:51.560 Of course.
00:06:51.920 Yeah.
00:06:52.260 I think, of course, it's going on more than anyone cares to admit.
00:06:56.280 On the Democrat side of the spectrum, they say this isn't a thing.
00:06:59.760 It doesn't happen.
00:07:00.640 On the Republican side, a lot of people will say, yeah, maybe it happens, but it's not
00:07:06.040 material.
00:07:06.820 It doesn't affect the outcome of an election.
00:07:08.920 Let me tell you, you're talking about South Texas, and we're talking about literally hundreds,
00:07:13.240 if not thousands of votes.
00:07:14.860 This is definitely material.
00:07:16.980 It's something we have to keep our eye on constantly.
00:07:19.380 It requires constant vigilance to fight this.
00:07:21.940 Do you think that they're tricking these elderly people or offering them something to get
00:07:26.700 these votes from them?
00:07:27.440 I really, I don't know.
00:07:30.880 It's hard to say, but you think of people being in a nursing home or assisted living as
00:07:38.940 being a vulnerable population.
00:07:40.580 I think it goes without saying that there are people there who are going to be compromised,
00:07:47.920 more susceptible to persuasion.
00:07:50.360 This is not how our electoral process is designed to work.
00:07:54.340 Yeah.
00:07:54.660 Wow.
00:07:54.960 There's also concern, you know, when I talk to people about this, the concern is not necessarily
00:08:00.940 so much that illegal immigrants are voting, but that with states like California, largely
00:08:06.720 operating as a sanctuary, they have large illegal immigrant populations, which boosts their
00:08:13.040 congressional seats in the census.
00:08:15.420 When they do the census, the population is increased.
00:08:17.720 And for this, they're refusing to deport.
00:08:19.740 Are there other concerns like anything you know of in Texas related to issues like that
00:08:25.800 based on what's going on?
00:08:27.540 Absolutely.
00:08:28.860 One of the big things we're working on right now in the state of Texas is bail reform.
00:08:32.780 One of those is around our illegal alien population. 0.98
00:08:35.980 It's going to come to the House floor eventually as SJR, Senate Joint Resolution 1.
00:08:41.880 And it's designed to make sure that illegal aliens who commit a certain class of offense
00:08:47.920 are not released on bail in the state of Texas.
00:08:50.180 So we're talking about, Tim, the most violent offenses plus any offenses involving election
00:08:56.860 fraud.
00:08:57.300 And if you're, I mean, if you're talking about illegal aliens participation in the criminal 0.63
00:09:03.140 process in Texas, a lot of times we're talking about the worst, most violent offenses or like
00:09:09.060 in South Texas, they may be asked to participate in some kind of ballot harvesting operation.
00:09:14.160 We're also trying to make sure that any illegal alien that's caught in the manufacture or delivery
00:09:18.640 of drugs in the state of Texas is held without bail.
00:09:22.020 I mean, that sounds good.
00:09:22.920 We've been seeing a lot, especially with Trump, you know, the big story, of course, he's going
00:09:26.940 after Trinidad, Aragua, MS-13.
00:09:29.340 Do you guys have, I imagine being Texas and especially with how the illegal immigration 1.00
00:09:34.560 was handled under the Biden administration, you've got a lot of problems with that.
00:09:38.160 Have you guys in the past few months been able to clean this up and change how things
00:09:41.720 have been operating?
00:09:43.540 Well, everything that happens in the legislature is initiated by some public, major public
00:09:49.900 event.
00:09:50.820 You know, in Dallas, where I'm from the Dallas area, I represent an area in Denton County.
00:09:55.020 In Dallas, we had a lady who was actually held up by some illegal gang members in her own 1.00
00:10:02.060 home, held hostage.
00:10:04.080 You may have heard that Trinidad, Aragua took over an apartment complex in the Dallas area.
00:10:09.960 This is an ongoing problem.
00:10:12.400 One of the issues that we're trying to address through House Bill 17, which was by Cole Hefner,
00:10:19.500 we're trying to fight both state and non-state actors of international criminal influence.
00:10:27.820 So organizations like Trinidad, Aragua, the cartels are not able to acquire or hold real
00:10:33.440 estate in the state of Texas.
00:10:35.440 You guys, you can't deport, right?
00:10:37.700 Is that my understanding?
00:10:38.600 It's a federal action for deportation?
00:10:40.760 Yeah, it's a federal action for deportation, but also one of the things we're trying to
00:10:46.260 do is kind of force our sheriffs into the 287G regime.
00:10:51.360 I'm sure you're familiar with that, where our sheriffs basically become deputized or empowered
00:10:56.420 to work as part of the federal immigration system to make sure that people that they apprehend
00:11:02.600 are then deported out of the country as part of cooperation with the Trump administration.
00:11:06.960 It's a very important thing.
00:11:09.380 Sheriff A.J.
00:11:10.360 Lauerback, who's now a state representative, is carrying a piece of that legislation.
00:11:15.160 I definitely want to talk to you about this foreign land thing, but real quick, what's
00:11:19.540 it like since the Trump administration's come in?
00:11:22.300 I mean, during the Biden administration, these videos were insane of the illegal immigration,
00:11:27.300 and now we're hearing that border crossings have dropped by some 95%.
00:11:31.100 It seems like the Trump admin is giving you guys the assistance you need, whereas Biden
00:11:35.640 was fighting with your own state law enforcement.
00:11:39.100 I imagine it's been good.
00:11:40.600 It's a precipitous decline in illegal immigration, which is exactly what we needed. 0.99
00:11:46.120 The state of Texas was having to deploy way too many tax dollars and way too much manpower
00:11:51.060 to the border and still not even making a dent.
00:11:53.900 I mean, we're now—this is a much better time safety-wise for the state of Texas.
00:12:00.540 We are—we're seeing way fewer illegal crossings, but the Democrats haven't helped us with that
00:12:07.900 at all either.
00:12:08.840 They are trying to fight us on bail reform.
00:12:12.040 They're trying to fight us on immigration-related measures.
00:12:15.260 And obviously, you probably know, we're trying to get our money back from the federal government
00:12:19.260 as well for the $11 billion we expended trying to do the work of the Biden administration they
00:12:25.000 refused to do.
00:12:26.180 Immigration was one of the top issues in the 2024 election and just in general leading up
00:12:32.000 to it.
00:12:32.880 What was the Democrats' argument to you guys, Alec, in Texas, but also federally, to allow
00:12:38.800 the degree of illegal immigration that we saw?
00:12:41.180 What were the—how could they justify that?
00:12:42.740 Well, I'm sure you see it in—I'm sure you see it where you are.
00:12:46.680 I see it where I am.
00:12:47.700 It's—everything is empathy-driven.
00:12:49.620 It's emotion-driven.
00:12:50.800 It's, oh, these people are fleeing.
00:12:53.480 They're looking for a better life.
00:12:55.160 You know, they're coming somewhere to start over.
00:12:58.100 We're such a land of economic opportunity.
00:13:00.340 Of course, the nice thing to do is to allow people to come over whenever they feel like
00:13:05.040 it.
00:13:05.160 The problem is that they never get to the natural consequence of the argument, which is Jocelyn
00:13:11.740 Nungare. 0.84
00:13:12.240 So we have Jocelyn Nungare in Houston, who was raped and murdered by two illegals over 1.00
00:13:17.500 the course of two hours in Houston under a bridge. 0.98
00:13:21.300 Illegals. 0.95
00:13:22.400 And her mother, Alexis Nungare, actually came to my committee and the Criminal Jurisprudence 0.75
00:13:27.400 Committee in the Texas House and testified in favor of bail reform, trying to make sure
00:13:32.080 that this can never happen to anyone else again.
00:13:34.200 You cannot separate the empathetic or emotional aspects of illegal immigration from the hardcore 0.65
00:13:42.840 reality of the criminal element that comes over here in the United States and the economic
00:13:48.600 impact of—on services of the people of Texas as well.
00:13:52.620 So it's a crazy argument.
00:13:54.940 I mean, even—you know, we've had a lot of these stories.
00:13:57.800 You had Lake and Riley, obviously, as another story.
00:14:00.920 And what we end up hearing from many of these liberal and Democrat activists or politicians
00:14:06.820 is they're all just seeking a better life.
00:14:11.020 It's almost like they're applying some utilitarian view.
00:14:15.480 It's almost like an inverted Blackstone's formulation where they say it is better that
00:14:20.020 several innocent people are raped and murdered than one poor asylum seeker be turned home,
00:14:25.240 turned away.
00:14:26.860 And instead of just saying we should not tolerate any degree of murder of our own citizens and
00:14:32.180 exploitation of our economy, they just allow this stuff to happen.
00:14:36.440 But moving on—
00:14:37.540 It's truly toxic empathy is what it is.
00:14:40.220 It's—well, we might do some good for these people over here.
00:14:44.120 If there's one or two people who are raped, robbed, murdered, then maybe we can balance the
00:14:49.600 harm against the greater societal good of making sure that these people can get jobs and have
00:14:54.720 a bank account and buy a house in America, I'm sorry, that's not the bargain the American 1.00
00:14:59.300 people voted for.
00:15:00.740 And I think maybe they'd have a semblance of an argument if they said, we're going to
00:15:05.040 change the law to allow it instead of just, we're going to let a bunch of people in illegally 0.98
00:15:08.960 to do whatever they want.
00:15:11.520 The law is—the law was an obstacle to the reformatting of the United States.
00:15:17.320 Yeah.
00:15:17.620 And you see that with the Biden enforcement's lax—the Biden administration's lax enforcement
00:15:23.020 of the law—it's because it's—the law is an obstacle to the reimagining of America.
00:15:30.000 And by the time we got to November, thank God, enough people had decided the madness has to end.
00:15:36.400 And we're not interested in the reformatting of America.
00:15:39.240 Thank you very much.
00:15:40.040 We like it the way that it is.
00:15:41.280 I think now one of the—a major move we're seeing is from you guys banning Chinese nationals,
00:15:47.560 Russians, North Koreans, adversaries from owning land in Texas. 0.92
00:15:50.920 Can you explain to us what the plan there is and what's going on?
00:15:54.400 Yeah.
00:15:54.880 So we—I think we have just passed out of the House the strongest version of the hostile
00:16:00.740 foreign land ownership bill that is going to exist in the United States.
00:16:04.960 I myself wrote a bill that was modeled on Arkansas's act that Senator—I'm sorry, that Governor
00:16:11.120 Huckabee Sanders signed into law last legislative session in Arkansas.
00:16:15.780 I think we have an even stronger version of it now.
00:16:18.820 There was a little bit of pushback on, well, what about people who are lawfully here in the
00:16:24.240 United States from China?
00:16:25.580 They're tech workers.
00:16:26.420 They're doctors.
00:16:27.040 Should we allow them to own a house? 0.97
00:16:28.460 I think you've got kind of the middle 100 people in our body out of 150 going, yeah,
00:16:35.220 we probably do need to allow people who are rightfully here in the country and are productive
00:16:39.560 to buy a house, buy a condo.
00:16:41.960 The problem is that for every possible loophole that we leave the Chinese government or the
00:16:48.160 Russian or North Korean or Iranian government, whoever the enemies of the United States are,
00:16:52.860 they will exploit it.
00:16:53.900 They will have lawyers reading, working, coming up with a plan to circumvent it as fast as
00:16:58.560 they possibly can.
00:17:00.000 You may be aware that the main thing that initiated this problem was somebody came in and bought
00:17:07.500 30,000 acres in South Texas up against one of our Air Force bases.
00:17:11.820 Obvious security risk.
00:17:14.720 And so we're not talking about some doctor's condo in downtown Austin here.
00:17:19.820 We're talking about major threats to strategic infrastructure.
00:17:23.800 I think we got a good enough bill off the house floor.
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00:18:21.840 That is going to prevent some of that garbage from happening again.
00:18:26.020 I think we're going to look back 20 or 30 years from now and go, 1.00
00:18:28.360 how can we be so stupid to ever allow Chinese nationals, companies, affiliates, entities to 1.00
00:18:36.380 come into Texas and buy our land? 1.00
00:18:39.020 Yeah.
00:18:39.380 I mean, hopefully the federal government or other states start to fall in line as well
00:18:43.520 because there's only so much you can do.
00:18:45.860 You know, you can protect Texas, but if the rest of this country doesn't figure this problem
00:18:49.920 out, then we're going to have a national, which we do, we have a national problem on this.
00:18:54.140 One of the issues is, you know, I was trying to, I was having a debate with this liberal
00:18:59.340 economist.
00:19:00.140 He was talking about how great it was that we have this trade with China that is completely
00:19:04.380 lopsided.
00:19:05.420 He didn't call it lopsided, but he said, you know, Trump's wrong.
00:19:08.420 And I asked him, if we don't manufacture and their labor is cheaper than ours, what will
00:19:15.340 they use our U.S. dollars for after we pay them?
00:19:18.860 And there's two answers.
00:19:20.040 Obviously, they're going to buy oil with the petrodollar, but they're buying U.S. land.
00:19:25.340 They're buying our hard assets from us.
00:19:27.840 We are, every day we buy cheap goods from them, we are just extracting more of our houses.
00:19:34.540 So one of the concerns I see with this is for the next generation, I'm imagining Gen 1.00
00:19:38.840 Z trying to rent an apartment and they're all owned by Chinese nationals, or that could 0.94
00:19:43.540 be Russians or Iranians.
00:19:44.840 It's shocking to think that we could get there one day.
00:19:50.540 It's already happening in many respects.
00:19:52.980 We have foreign investors who are acquiring a lot of residential real estate in the state
00:19:57.400 of Texas and elsewhere.
00:19:59.340 I think we need to give, as a party and as a nation, we need to give President Trump latitude
00:20:06.140 to reorder the international trade dilemma that we have with China.
00:20:11.080 It seems like he's already making headway, that we're making advances toward equalizing
00:20:16.600 our economic relationship with China.
00:20:20.180 But you're absolutely right.
00:20:22.620 I think the problem is we know what the right thing to do is, Tim.
00:20:28.080 The right thing is to put China on equal footing with the United States from a trade standpoint,
00:20:33.860 but there's pain to getting there.
00:20:35.980 And so all the businesses that depend on cheap labor, cheap goods, and they're more likely
00:20:43.140 to engage in rent-seeking behavior, say, hey, well, we need to use the power of government
00:20:48.860 to make sure everything stays cheap for me.
00:20:51.240 Well, that may be the best for you now, but it's not the best thing for the United States
00:20:55.980 long term.
00:20:57.300 It is one of our challenges.
00:20:58.740 I've seen so many stories from people saying that the tariffs on China was really bad for
00:21:02.680 their small business, and now they may go under, and it's bad for the economy.
00:21:06.020 The scary thing is, like you said, the pain that gets you to the right place.
00:21:09.580 If we keep taking this cheap labor deal from China, our own laborers can't compete with 0.97
00:21:15.580 that cost.
00:21:16.660 The end result that I fear is, a simple tangible one is, 22-year-old goes to rent an apartment,
00:21:22.660 and it's a building owned by China.
00:21:24.800 Literally, the Chinese Communist Party threw a subsidiary.
00:21:28.180 We can never allow that to happen.
00:21:30.560 We can never allow that to happen.
00:21:31.900 I mean, you think about what the bedrock, the cornerstone of wealth creation, the engine
00:21:38.780 of wealth creation in the United States is homeownership.
00:21:42.020 We need to make sure that our young people have a future opportunity that we and our
00:21:47.400 parents had to be able to carve a life out for themselves.
00:21:50.960 We cannot be as dependent on China today as we are.
00:21:53.420 But it's so insanely hard right now.
00:21:56.780 And, you know, so you're mentioning these loopholes.
00:21:59.920 For any and every loophole you leave, they're going to exploit.
00:22:03.540 The challenge I see with this bill is, what's to stop a, you know, so the Chinese Communist 1.00
00:22:08.600 Party says, we want to own land near a military base, or we want to own large swaths of farmland,
00:22:13.300 control the food production in the U.S.
00:22:14.720 So they hire some, they, you know, dish it out to some run-of-the-mill Chinese citizen. 1.00
00:22:23.380 He forms an LLC or a C-Corp or something.
00:22:26.240 The corporation buys it, and it's an American corporation.
00:22:29.500 And so it is only one layer.
00:22:31.900 But how do you stop these shell companies?
00:22:36.320 You know, the interest is still there, but they're going to find ways to hide it.
00:22:39.260 That's a great question.
00:22:41.260 So I think we've got a good enough statute where we're going to be able to capture those 0.97
00:22:45.120 entities where there is maybe a limited partnership participation that's significant to a level of
00:22:50.640 control.
00:22:51.960 So we drafted that bill with that issue specifically in mind.
00:22:57.900 But you know, Tim, that whatever we do, there's always going to be a counter move.
00:23:02.260 You may or may not be aware that with regard to Chinese entities or Chinese ownership, the
00:23:07.980 government owns what are called golden shares.
00:23:10.580 They don't even appear on the capitalization table of the company, the ownership table.
00:23:16.500 They just, they might have what's called one golden share.
00:23:19.820 It means the country, China, owns it. 0.96
00:23:23.140 They can take it whenever they want.
00:23:25.080 So one of my big concerns, actually, Tim, was that eventually the Chinese are going to start 1.00
00:23:31.280 using American citizens as a cutout, that they, the American citizens will essentially do business
00:23:38.200 with China as their proxy or their affiliate and hold it on their behalf.
00:23:43.380 And that is a huge concern.
00:23:45.320 You'll never believe the loophole that was in the Senate bill that came over to us.
00:23:48.760 They had an exception for leases shorter than a hundred years.
00:23:53.540 So can you imagine?
00:23:55.280 It might as well, you might as well own it in fee simple because now if you, if you got
00:24:01.660 a 99 year ground lease, you own the improvements and you say, oh, well, I don't own the land.
00:24:05.720 You, you functionally own the real estate.
00:24:08.260 So we were able to amend that thing out of there.
00:24:10.520 This is going to be, it's going to require constant diligence on behalf of state governments,
00:24:16.640 the state of Texas, other states to, to prevent China from expanding its influence here.
00:24:22.280 This, this golden share thing you're describing.
00:24:24.160 So I've never heard, this is crazy.
00:24:26.640 So, so basically it makes sense.
00:24:28.640 So, so how does this work?
00:24:31.360 Is it like, so I, like you, you know who you've, you've heard of Jack Ma, for example,
00:24:36.620 right?
00:24:36.820 Yeah.
00:24:37.080 Yeah.
00:24:37.220 But like, yeah, he's a Chinese billionaire.
00:24:39.640 Well, and you may remember a couple of years ago, Jack Ma just disappeared for about six
00:24:46.820 months.
00:24:47.420 Yeah.
00:24:47.660 Well, every Chinese business.
00:24:51.500 So if I, whether it's a publicly traded entity or a private entity, most of them are controlled
00:24:59.660 by, or probably all of them to some degree are controlled by the CCP.
00:25:04.140 So you have no real transparency into the financial inner workings of those businesses.
00:25:10.860 So you think about an American investor investing in China, you have no transparency from an audit
00:25:17.420 standpoint of what's going on financially in that entity.
00:25:19.940 And at the end of the day, because of this golden share concept, the CCP owns the company.
00:25:25.360 They can take it whenever they feel like it.
00:25:27.520 They can nationalize it, shift the ownership, shift the purpose of the business.
00:25:32.800 There's no certainty at all.
00:25:34.280 So it's also kind of crazy to think this also lends to when these Chinese interests are
00:25:40.980 buying American land, which has been a huge concern all over the country.
00:25:44.040 We look at it on paper, and we're going to see either an American corporation that owns
00:25:50.120 it, and that corporation is wholly owned by a Chinese national, but then China's going
00:25:55.380 to have their own version of the books outside of U.S. law, where they say, sure, this guy
00:26:01.840 owns that company, but we, the CCP, own him and his company.
00:26:05.880 So we are actually secretly in control of all this farmland and land near military bases.
00:26:10.820 Absolutely.
00:26:12.740 It's the same thing that's going on in offshore entities in the Caribbean, same thing that's
00:26:17.060 going on in Panamanian entities that are used for money laundering.
00:26:21.280 There's going to be just a base level of opacity where you cannot see who owns the entity or
00:26:27.700 who controls it.
00:26:29.000 It's one of the reasons that we put in the bill the ability for the attorney general's
00:26:33.540 office in the state of Texas to investigate that person or entity to determine whether they
00:26:38.760 actually are an agent of the CCP.
00:26:40.960 So in other words, they don't have a safe home base to touch if they satisfy some piece
00:26:49.240 of the statute.
00:26:49.940 We're always going to have the ability to investigate it and then divest them at the
00:26:53.740 real estate if they are truly an agent.
00:26:55.620 You know, when we, especially for a show like mine and for a lot of people who follow it,
00:27:01.560 we follow national news largely.
00:27:04.340 And so we, I think a lot of people overlook the importance of state level politics, which
00:27:09.520 can shape the congressional district, which literally does shape the congressional districts.
00:27:13.080 But in that regard, Paxton's been doing one of the best jobs in the country in going
00:27:19.940 after a lot of the fraud, corruption, abuse that we've been seeing.
00:27:25.040 Yeah.
00:27:25.380 I mean, I'm curious, considering what we saw against Donald Trump from the Democratic Party
00:27:31.780 in various states going after his lawyers and everything like that, I have to imagine
00:27:34.620 that Democrats in Texas don't take too kindly to your AG over there. 0.71
00:27:39.540 Well, I don't know if you're aware of this, Tim, but I was Ken Paxton's lawyer in his impeachment
00:27:44.940 trial.
00:27:45.280 That's why I ask.
00:27:45.940 And yeah, so you obviously are aware.
00:27:50.980 It's not, the thing that I'm realizing, so I'm a freshman in the state legislature here.
00:27:56.480 The thing that I'm realizing, Tim, is the problem is not the extreme wing of the Democrat Party.
00:28:01.880 The problem is the, we've got 150 members in the legislature.
00:28:05.180 The problem is the 100 members in the center of the ideological spectrum here in Texas who
00:28:11.560 are ideologically indistinguishable from one another.
00:28:15.940 And you have the same thing that's going on in Congress.
00:28:18.780 And, you know, we kind of colloquially refer to it as the unit party.
00:28:22.900 Yeah.
00:28:23.000 But when you have someone like Ken Paxton, who's doing the right thing, doing it aggressively,
00:28:28.680 the party of the status quo, the people in the center are the ones that recoil in horror
00:28:34.560 about that.
00:28:35.640 And that's why he ended up getting impeached.
00:28:38.800 I firmly believe that.
00:28:39.820 Do you think that was just, it was bogus, it was BS, just political?
00:28:45.200 Nothing to it. 1.00
00:28:46.200 Absolute garbage. 0.99
00:28:47.900 Should have never gotten off first base, should have never come out of the House in the first 1.00
00:28:51.480 place.
00:28:52.300 How does, I suppose you've broken down for, I'm just kind of, I'm flabbergasted that we're
00:28:57.360 experiencing this at the state level, the federal level.
00:28:59.360 You mentioned like this uniparty elements.
00:29:02.960 How do we get, how do we get past this?
00:29:05.260 I mean, nationally, state, state level.
00:29:08.840 Yeah, we have to be, voters have to be more demanding on a local level of their representation
00:29:14.160 and their representation in Congress.
00:29:16.740 You know, we've got to be, voters have to be more informed.
00:29:19.760 They've got to be more attuned to what the people they are electing are doing.
00:29:23.060 Because I think what I'm, I think what I'm learning, Tim, is that if people stay in elected
00:29:28.420 office for too long, eventually they become kind of merged into whatever this machine is.
00:29:34.140 People come in with the right principles, the right beliefs, really fidelity to the people
00:29:38.880 who got them there.
00:29:40.000 And there's so much pressure in state government and federal government for you to conform,
00:29:45.760 to get along so that you can quote unquote, get things done, that eventually people cave.
00:29:50.980 They transform into something they never intended to be when they ran for office in the first
00:29:55.280 place.
00:29:56.180 Many such cases, Tim.
00:29:57.860 Yeah.
00:29:58.760 It's like they get in and they become jaded.
00:30:01.160 They become nihilistic.
00:30:02.200 And then they just, the office becomes them instead of them taking on the office.
00:30:06.660 They just go with the flow.
00:30:09.680 So you look, you look what's going on with Senator John Cornyn, who's going to be in a,
00:30:14.280 he's going to be in a primary with Ken Paxton.
00:30:16.240 John Cornyn's been, John Cornyn's been working in government as long as I've been alive,
00:30:20.160 just about.
00:30:21.220 Wow.
00:30:22.680 Yeah.
00:30:22.860 I mean, you just, you look at his professional background.
00:30:25.840 He's been working in government as long as anyone can remember.
00:30:29.380 So last question, I suppose, is there anything that we can look forward to actions you guys
00:30:34.280 in the, in Texas are planning on taking moving forward?
00:30:36.880 Guy, absolutely.
00:30:38.640 Tim bail reform.
00:30:40.160 Yeah.
00:30:40.500 We need to make sure that people, we need to make sure.
00:30:42.700 So the, the cities in any state, but particularly in Texas are eating us from the inside out.
00:30:51.980 And it's because of their, their incredibly lax approach to the criminal justice process.
00:30:57.600 We have violent offenders who are committing violent offenses while they are out on bail for horrific things.
00:31:05.740 And we have got to get a hold of that.
00:31:08.280 I think we're going to have something voted out of the house this week, out of committee and to the floor soon for consideration that everybody's going to like.
00:31:15.820 We need to make sure that people who are violent offenders, repeated offenders, people who are a legitimate flight risk are not let out of jail,
00:31:23.460 that they have to await their pending trial.
00:31:26.020 That sounds great.
00:31:27.240 Well, it could be great.
00:31:28.640 I do appreciate the time.
00:31:29.780 Rep Little, where can people find you?
00:31:32.840 Yeah, I'm at, at, at Real Mitch Little on X.
00:31:36.420 That's probably the best place to find me.
00:31:38.220 Thank you so much for having me on.
00:31:39.480 It's a real pleasure.
00:31:40.500 Yeah.
00:31:40.660 Is there anything else you want to mention before we wrap up?
00:31:42.840 I, you know, give you the floor.
00:31:44.420 No, sir.
00:31:44.760 You're doing a great job.
00:31:45.740 I look forward to hearing.
00:31:46.800 I appreciate it.
00:31:47.460 Thanks for, for joining us and giving some insights and we'll, we'll see you next time.
00:31:51.540 Yes, sir.
00:31:52.060 Take care.
00:31:52.360 Take care.
00:31:54.240 That was the rep from Texas, Rep Mitch Little.
00:31:59.040 That was really great.
00:31:59.880 Really do appreciate you had time to, to, to join us and explain a bit about what's going on down there.
00:32:04.400 I want to stress everybody, state level politics can change the world, can change everything.
00:32:10.300 And we talked about this several years ago, which is why it's, it's, it's really important that you guys figure out who your state rep is, your state senators, pay attention to those elections, special elections.
00:32:21.280 We were at a point where people were talking about a potential, I think it's an article five.
00:32:26.020 Um, what, what, what is it called?
00:32:28.700 It's been so long since we went over this, basically a convent article five convention of states.
00:32:33.520 The states can basically override Congress, the Senate, all that stuff.
00:32:38.240 If enough get together and the Republicans control the majority of states.
00:32:44.080 But here's the secret, here's, here's a plain as day secret.
00:32:47.500 You and me, the Americans are actually the ideological center, uh, the moral center of this country.
00:32:55.720 Now, no, hold on.
00:32:56.500 I'm not saying I'm morally right on everything, nor am I saying you are.
00:32:59.360 I'm saying this space that we occupy, where we say this country is for Americans.
00:33:05.280 It's for our children.
00:33:06.860 We plant trees whose shade we know we'll never sit beneath.
00:33:10.020 This is, this is, this is our country, but Democrats have been bringing in non-citizens, lying, claiming it's an economic benefit.
00:33:18.500 It's not.
00:33:19.580 They do it so that when the census comes around every 10 years, they get extra electoral college votes.
00:33:25.140 Then they get to vote for the president.
00:33:27.560 And then we look at the votes and we're like, how is it that the Republicans didn't win this time?
00:33:31.840 Because Democrats gave themselves five extra votes.
00:33:34.440 How about in Congress?
00:33:35.480 Man, Trump won a popular mandate, but we only get a two seat, two seat majority in the Republican Party.
00:33:43.080 How is that possible?
00:33:44.540 Because Democrats have probably 10 extra seats because they bring illegal immigrants into this, into this country. 1.00
00:33:52.360 Then census counts them and congressional seats are drawn up based on the total population size, not citizenry.
00:34:00.680 You want to change that?
00:34:03.020 We need to win at the state level.
00:34:05.480 So it's really great to see what Texas is doing because Texas has been leading the charge on so many of these things, especially with Ken Paxton.
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00:35:35.180 Our sergeant says, at my family's Mother Day cookout, my liberal was literally blaming Trump for not being able to watch baseball on TV.
00:35:45.000 Yeah, well, you know, that's how these things go.
00:35:48.580 J.G. Sturtevant says, I would say these Democrat reps tried to facilitate a jailbreak at a federal detention center.
00:35:55.500 Indeed, my friends, perhaps it was a insurrection.
00:35:59.780 I will just give one last little bit because I should be signing off.
00:36:02.460 We'll get that rumble raid going for our friend Russell Brand here.
00:36:05.180 But I'm going to say this.
00:36:06.460 Trump should not accept the Qatari airplane.
00:36:09.320 I'm not a fan of that.
00:36:10.900 There's so many obvious reasons.
00:36:12.620 One, we can talk like presidents shouldn't take gifts from foreign countries like that.
00:36:17.000 He's saying it's to the DOD, not just to him.
00:36:19.300 I get it.
00:36:20.240 And that's true.
00:36:20.920 Shouldn't accept it.
00:36:22.160 There's got to be some consideration.
00:36:23.820 And you know what?
00:36:24.440 We understand there's always a formality in this.
00:36:26.480 Consideration means something exchanged for something, something of value.
00:36:30.060 So Trump should at least give them like, hey, you want to bring in his plane?
00:36:34.700 Fine.
00:36:35.220 The government has to make that exchange.
00:36:36.780 This has to be on the level.
00:36:38.200 I'm less concerned about that.
00:36:39.780 I don't care if a foreign government wants to give a president a plane.
00:36:42.780 I don't want Trump flying on it.
00:36:45.100 A Qatari jet? 0.53
00:36:46.440 Nah.
00:36:47.080 People are like, yeah, but it's built in America.
00:36:48.200 I don't care.
00:36:49.380 I don't care.
00:36:51.020 Air Force One's got to be paid and made by us for obvious reasons.
00:36:58.100 So that's just a random aside.
00:36:59.460 We'll talk more about that tonight on Tim Castirel, I'm sure.
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