The Culture War - Tim Pool - Democrats In TOTAL FREEFALL, ANOTHER Democrat LEAVES The Party

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00:01:22.600 Fury and resignation around the world as Trump's travel ban comes roaring back.

00:01:29.120 Yeah, Trump's travel ban is probably popular, okay?

00:01:32.700 As if Trump cried national security and terrorism concerns and banning nationals largely from Africa

00:01:37.220 and Asia, the reaction of those countries ranged from weariness to anger.

00:01:40.980 Don't know, don't care.

00:01:41.860 One of the areas where Trump is largely successful in terms of his approval rating is immigration.

00:01:47.080 Most people in this country are concerned about the terror attacks.

00:01:49.560 We just saw one with this crazy guy in Boulder, Colorado.

00:01:52.660 And conservatives have been warning about this forever.

00:01:55.620 Joe Biden's open border policy, and not just physically at the border,

00:01:59.800 but granting temporary protected status to people who are overstaying visas.

00:02:03.980 This was creating a security risk where we were not vetting whether some people were extremists.

00:02:09.640 And now what do we get?

00:02:10.700 An extremist literally attacked a bunch of people, elderly people with Molotov cocktails.

00:02:15.440 So Trump says, okay, we're going to ban travel from these countries and restrict from these other countries.

00:02:21.240 What are we getting?

00:02:22.320 Liberals are feigning outrage.

00:02:24.440 Good luck, I guess.

00:02:25.560 This is a popular position.

00:02:27.880 Where will we end up?

00:02:29.040 Honestly, I think the reality is it's just going to keep working out for Donald Trump.

00:02:34.420 This is going to help bolster his approval rating.

00:02:36.400 It makes him look like he's actually addressing issues people are concerned about.

00:02:39.720 And the Democrats are once again defending the bad guys on these issues.

00:02:44.020 Now we're going to be joined, of course, by, I believe we've got Rich Lowry joining us.

00:02:48.360 So let me pull this up, make sure I get the audio squared away and loaded.

00:02:53.200 Looks like we are loaded up.

00:02:54.680 It's looking good.

00:02:56.400 And Rich, can you hear me?

00:02:58.360 Yeah, I gotcha.

00:02:59.920 All right.

00:03:00.960 How's it going, man?

00:03:01.720 How you doing?

00:03:02.500 Not too bad, you?

00:03:03.500 I understand The Daily Show just went after you.

00:03:05.280 Yeah, The Daily Show did.

00:03:07.080 They pulled clips from like 10 years.

00:03:08.880 I'm not kidding, nine.

00:03:09.920 They have a clip of me from when I think I was like 28.

00:03:13.480 And, you know, I was doing like a Patreon video for like 3,000 people.

00:03:18.340 Absolutely wild.

00:03:19.040 But hey, I must be doing something right, I guess.

00:03:21.060 Yeah, I first came across you when you were wandering around with a mic and all these protests.

00:03:26.220 Yeah.

00:03:26.440 Well, that's one thing they tried doing.

00:03:29.420 They took a clip of me where I said, I'm on the ground bringing the news to you, which is nine years ago.

00:03:35.720 And then likening it to my show now, which is more produced podcast stuff.

00:03:39.760 Right.

00:03:40.120 But do you want to give people a quick introduction of the work that you do before we get started?

00:03:43.660 Yeah, sure.

00:03:45.120 Rich Lowry, editor-in-chief, National U Magazine, columnist, write a syndicated column, peers very often in the New York Post.

00:03:52.020 I'm curious.

00:03:53.540 The big issue that I was talking about just now is Karine Jean-Pierre is quitting the Democratic Party.

00:03:58.260 The party seems to be in free fall.

00:04:00.080 They're not popular.

00:04:00.800 Their brand is bad.

00:04:01.900 And I, you know, I'm kind of bored of it.

00:04:06.360 You know, at this point, it's been predicted.

00:04:08.800 We've watched.

00:04:09.280 Everybody knows.

00:04:10.220 But I'm curious your assessment on what you've been seeing.

00:04:13.680 Well, look, I mean, this is absurd, right?

00:04:16.360 She was in on the conspiracy, right?

00:04:18.720 Like, Taffer's book says the press people, they weren't on, you know, major insiders.

00:04:22.880 But I wasn't an insider.

00:04:24.960 You weren't an insider.

00:04:26.160 We knew what was happening, right?

00:04:27.600 You could see it with your own eyes.

00:04:29.320 It was the worst executed conspiracy in the history of America because no one believed the conspirators.

00:04:35.580 It doesn't mean they still weren't hiding stuff, right?

00:04:38.060 And it wasn't shameful what they were doing or trying to do.

00:04:41.040 I mean, the basic playbook was to gaslight everyone until the election, hope he wins, and have them die or become senile in office and say, well, here we go.

00:04:51.980 Kamala Harris is president of the United States.

00:04:53.760 A shameful conspiracy against the American public and the American public interest.

00:04:59.220 This was a terrible thing.

00:05:00.560 Having a president who wasn't up for it and was just going to get more not up for it as time went on and have someone who wasn't elected take over.

00:05:07.640 Would have been terrible for the country.

00:05:08.780 And she was the front woman for this conspiracy.

00:05:12.480 So I have a lot of time for conversions.

00:05:14.440 If she wants to write a book saying, dear God, I regret what I did.

00:05:18.780 This is why I did it.

00:05:19.980 I now realize it was wrong.

00:05:21.960 I hate the people who convinced me to do this.

00:05:26.320 You know, George Stephanopoulos sort of wrote a memoir like that after his time with Bill Clinton.

00:05:31.520 But to do this, to say politics is broken when you had a huge role in breaking it and aren't going to acknowledge it, it's absurd and shameful.

00:05:38.780 I mean, we're seeing this from a bunch of news organizations as well.

00:05:41.540 I mean, Jake Tapper, of course.

00:05:43.320 How could anyone have missed this?

00:05:44.820 You were on TV every night claiming that people were mocking his stutter, that he was well.

00:05:50.100 Yeah, it drives me nuts.

00:05:52.740 And kind of the epicenter of it was that George Clooney fundraiser in Hollywood, right?

00:05:57.820 One, they had to have Obama because they had to have like a real live person on stage with Biden.

00:06:02.760 So at least half the presenters were with it.

00:06:06.420 We all pointed that out at the time.

00:06:08.040 And then Biden clearly froze up on the stage doing a wave.

00:06:13.180 We have never seen a normal president of the United States just freeze.

00:06:16.840 And then he has to get guided off stage by Barack Obama, which we've also never seen that happen with another president.

00:06:23.140 And Obama, whatever else you think about him, has some physical grace.

00:06:26.320 So he's able to pull it off very well.

00:06:28.680 But those are three data points.

00:06:30.120 We all knew him.

00:06:30.880 We all saw him.

00:06:31.840 And they lied to us.

00:06:32.880 They tried to lie to us about what we were seeing with their own eyes.

00:06:35.980 And everyone there at the fundraiser knew it.

00:06:37.860 Turns out George Clooney, shocked at Biden's state.

00:06:41.020 Biden doesn't recognize him.

00:06:43.220 Jon Favreau, I think it is.

00:06:44.480 I get the Obama bros confused, said everyone in the room, shocked.

00:06:48.480 His wife said, what are we going to do?

00:06:50.300 How possibly is this going to work?

00:06:51.680 It's like, I don't know.

00:06:52.860 And everyone on their table had the same conversation.

00:06:55.180 And they told us we were crazy when we said he froze up and we saw it on camera and something's wrong.

00:07:01.340 And then only after the debate, when it became convenient, then they're like, oh, yeah, this is what we saw.

00:07:06.960 You know, this is what was going on.

00:07:09.080 Well, thanks a lot, guys.

00:07:10.580 One of my favorite tweets, ex post, whatever, was there's that Trump reply guy. 1.00

00:07:15.220 I'm not going to say his name, but he tweets, Joe Biden's going to run on stage, slam a water, grab a water bottle, chug it, slam it on the table and say, sup, bitch. 0.99

00:07:25.200 And then after the debate, he said, what did I just watch? 0.98

00:07:28.360 And I feel like, yeah, I think there's a lot of older people who are just watching, say, like CNN or MSNBC that lived in that narrative reality.

00:07:38.680 And then they saw the truth.

00:07:40.400 But I guess the issue now is it were in the Trump era.

00:07:43.420 Trump's popularity is growing, despite the fact the polls seemingly make no sense because some have a minus 11 and some have a plus 13, which is weird.

00:07:51.540 Well, as long as we look at the aggregate, he's at minus two point by 2.3 right now, which is really good.

00:07:59.860 Even YouGov has him slowly improving and they call this the slow return of Trump's popularity.

00:08:05.280 The Democratic brand is tarnished.

00:08:07.240 People think there are no strong leaders.

00:08:09.440 KGP quits the party.

00:08:11.140 Many others.

00:08:11.800 I mean, we can rag on, you know, Axios or CNN or these other outlets that claimed they couldn't tell that Biden was sick.

00:08:19.300 But either way, people are waking up and they're losing confidence in that party.

00:08:25.440 And once party loyalists are turning their back, how like what do you have a prediction of where this goes into 2026 or what happens to the Democratic Party?

00:08:34.680 So I think the advantage they have, Tim, is that in a midterm election, when the other party controls all elected branches of Washington, you usually do well no matter what.

00:08:46.700 I emphasize the no matter what.

00:08:48.260 So that's what they have to go on is no matter what.

00:08:51.000 They'll probably take the House, right?

00:08:53.020 It's hard to imagine they won't pick up two or three net seats.

00:08:56.080 That's just not a lot in historic terms. 0.95

00:08:58.740 And they can probably do that without having figured anything out and being as pathetic as they are now, even though Trump's approval rating is ticking back up. 0.94

00:09:05.520 To my surprise, after the terrorists first came out, polls went down. 0.95

00:09:09.300 I was like, now he's in a different phase.

00:09:11.280 But he's ticked back up to his credit.

00:09:14.300 Then they got it figured out in 28, right?

00:09:16.220 That's the big question, because you need someone who's compelling, who's interesting, who's different, who has a different theory of the case.

00:09:23.260 No one wins the presidency by running the conventional playbook, whether it was Obama or Trump.

00:09:30.280 Maybe Biden's a slight exception in 2020, but a lot of other stuff was going on, confounding variables in 2020.

00:09:36.940 And they need someone who just seems reasonable, right?

00:09:39.260 Who's not into this woke stuff, who can say, no, boys shouldn't compete against girls in sports.

00:09:45.240 And yes, we should have a sealed border and all the rest of it.

00:09:48.520 But can they do that?

00:09:49.780 Will they do that?

00:09:50.660 That I don't know.

00:09:51.700 And that's a huge, huge question facing them.

00:09:54.340 Well, I think that you were mentioning early on the Daily Show made a video about me.

00:09:59.540 And it's just like, why do they really that they have nothing on their side in terms of media and personality to promote?

00:10:10.560 They I think, you know, the reason I bring it up is I consider myself still to be like a traditional liberal.

00:10:17.120 And growing up, as much as liberals conservatives disagreed, we all got along.

00:10:24.500 I mean, you know, my parents were liberal and conservative, but it wasn't that big of a difference.

00:10:29.540 Now you have this very stark divide.

00:10:32.060 And I think the issue they're taking, probably why they rag on me is because you've got Tulsi Gabbard, you've got RFK Jr., you've got Elon Musk, you've got Donald Trump himself.

00:10:40.440 You've got people like me and all of those other people who consider themselves to be liberal. 0.99

00:10:44.700 But now we're like, I'll take Trump because y'all are nuts. 0.99

00:10:47.620 Right. 0.75

00:10:48.060 If they're going to rebuild brand while people are quitting the party, they have to make a case for why people like me are wrong and the party is good.

00:10:55.900 Well, not just me, but like Tulsi, they've gone after for years.

00:10:59.580 I just don't know how they convince a new generation to attach themselves to a brand that doesn't have any genuine personality or policy or anything like that.

00:11:09.380 Yeah.

00:11:09.640 So, you know, you know, the stick figure diagram for this phenomenon, right?

00:11:13.120 I think Colin Wright came up that on X, right?

00:11:16.300 And Elon, you're the stick figure, right?

00:11:18.620 You're the stick figure.

00:11:19.280 You're someone who's in the middle of the of the two parties, broadly conceived.

00:11:23.360 And then the Democrats go way to the left and wait a minute, now you're right of center.

00:11:27.020 How did that happen?

00:11:27.920 Because they went crazy.

00:11:30.180 You know, you're a part of this phenomenon, Glenn Greenwald, Elon, Bill Maher.

00:11:34.920 Now, you know, Maher's never going to be pro-Trump.

00:11:36.420 He's changed his tune a little bit or his tone since that meeting in the White House.

00:11:40.980 But people who realize the left has gone insane and also just reject this, the legacy media, the way it controls information, the way it attacks dissent, right?

00:11:53.280 Just we're talking about it right now.

00:11:55.120 There's a reason they're going after you and have a more liberal attitude towards debate and discussion and think it should be more freewheeling.

00:12:03.860 So now you guys are with with us over over on on the right.

00:12:08.180 But it's not really you're doing wasn't something you sent out deliberately to do the whole context and environment change.

00:12:14.040 But they're inauthentic, right?

00:12:16.200 So, you know, there was this article, I think it was, I don't know, it might have been Newsweek or no, I think it was Politico.

00:12:21.500 The centrist Democrats are trying to take control of the party, make their case.

00:12:26.620 The problem is these, quote unquote, centrist Democrats are still inauthentic fake people.

00:12:32.180 Right.

00:12:32.620 You parade them out and it's like, listen, you lied to us about Joe Biden.

00:12:36.960 You are party loyalists.

00:12:38.940 You are not centrists.

00:12:40.620 I don't see how they find a charismatic leader who's going to attract.

00:12:45.340 Look, let's be real.

00:12:46.100 There is nobody on the Democratic side who right now could convince me to vote for a Democrat.

00:12:52.500 Who else are they going to try and get?

00:12:54.740 Yeah.

00:12:55.540 So what they try to do, maybe three out of the last three times, certainly two out of the last three times, was control the process.

00:13:03.320 Right.

00:13:03.860 So no one serious could run against Hillary. 1.00

00:13:06.240 They didn't consider Bernie serious.

00:13:08.060 He ended up being much more serious than they thought in 2016.

00:13:10.980 But the deck was stacked in Hillary Clinton's favor. 1.00

00:13:13.440 And she was just a terrible person.

00:13:15.280 You know, if you can stack the deck for someone, don't do it for her.

00:13:18.640 2020, you know, they stack it for Biden, kind of.

00:13:21.620 I mean, it was a competitive process and he lost the first couple primaries and actually seemed dead in the water.

00:13:27.860 Comes back.

00:13:28.620 He works for them.

00:13:29.480 But in 2024, no one could run against him.

00:13:32.000 Right.

00:13:32.240 It was stacked in the favor of an old senile man with, like, approval ratings of 40 percent or a blow.

00:13:39.720 A disastrous choice.

00:13:41.600 And then they don't have time or they didn't want to do it.

00:13:44.440 They thought it was too risky for an open process to be his replacement.

00:13:47.520 So they choose poorly yet again.

00:13:49.680 And the thing is, if you actually have an open process, you got to go out, you got to connect with voters.

00:13:56.300 And unpredictable things happen and voters value authenticity.

00:14:00.620 A party establishment does not necessarily value authenticity.

00:14:03.880 Hillary wasn't authentic. 0.98

00:14:05.580 Kamala wasn't authentic. 0.76

00:14:07.160 But voters do.

00:14:08.220 So that's why you get Trump.

00:14:09.500 Right.

00:14:09.660 He comes in 2016.

00:14:11.200 Total interloper.

00:14:12.420 Total outsider.

00:14:14.140 Find something that other Republicans aren't on to.

00:14:16.700 And he's totally real.

00:14:17.980 Right.

00:14:18.220 And we saw the power of this in 24 with going on podcasts.

00:14:22.000 Doesn't need a script.

00:14:22.860 Doesn't need to prepare beforehand.

00:14:24.320 Doesn't need the questions to be fed to him.

00:14:26.160 He can just go on and be himself.

00:14:27.980 McDonald's.

00:14:28.460 He can go to the takeout window, wear his suit and just throw a McDonald's apron over it and be himself.

00:14:34.900 And it works.

00:14:35.500 So that's what happens when you have small d democratic politics.

00:14:38.820 But the Democrats, Democratic parties short circuited that several times now to their own detriment.

00:14:43.860 I think all they have, this is funny, is all they have is orange man bad.

00:14:49.100 Do you choose the meme?

00:14:50.320 With Trump's approval rating increasing, this likely indicates that regular voters are looking at what he's doing and they like what he's doing, especially in immigration.

00:14:59.360 What ends up happening is these liberal personalities, they don't actually have a fact basis by which to oppose Trump.

00:15:07.080 So let's take a look at, you know, he just did this travel ban.

00:15:10.020 12 countries.

00:15:10.620 What is the logical argument to say that what he did was egregious and wrong?

00:15:17.680 You might argue maybe it's bad for relations with that country.

00:15:22.020 But what we end up seeing is these liberals, these personalities come out, act like Trump is literally Hitler for doing this.

00:15:28.200 I think regular people are going to look at it and they're going to be like, I honestly don't care.

00:15:32.460 So all they're proposing is whatever Trump does, it's bad.

00:15:35.900 But what happens to a party when people actually like what Trump is doing?

00:15:38.580 Yeah. So on the travel ban, people tend to forget he got dinged the first two times with his travel ban the first term on process grounds.

00:15:48.940 Then when they fixed it, the third time they go up to the Supreme Court and they win.

00:15:52.820 Right. And they've taken on board the information how it went the first time.

00:15:55.960 This one is going to be I haven't looked at it closely, but I expect to be more carefully done is going to withstand court challenge.

00:16:02.200 Ultimately, you know, it'll prevail in the Supreme Court, whatever a crazy district court judge does. 0.64

00:16:08.160 And, yeah, it can affect your relations with these countries.

00:16:10.460 But how much relationship do we have with Somalia or Afghanistan or with Haiti?

00:16:14.580 And I think the White House fact sheet was very compelling.

00:16:17.280 If you have visa overstay rates from these countries, 50 percent or above, you're just letting them in. 1.00

00:16:24.580 If you give them a visa, you're just letting them come in the United States and stay forever more. 1.00

00:16:28.400 Now, if we want to do that, fine. You know, Congress can pass a law saying everyone in Haiti wants to come, gets to come and they stay forever. 1.00

00:16:34.260 But we don't have that law. That law wouldn't make sense. And that's what that's what we're we're not going to do that.

00:16:40.340 So it's fine letting Canadians in because they're by and large, they're going to go home. 1.00

00:16:44.200 But you let in someone from Afghanistan. I have a lot of sympathy for Afghans and lived a nightmare, hellish nightmare for decades. 1.00

00:16:51.080 But they're going to stay. So that's a mockery of the visa program. 0.89

00:16:54.840 And that's why it makes sense to cut it off.

00:16:56.660 And so my point is, largely, the only argument against it is a is a light maybe.

00:17:04.000 Right. Like like I mentioned, maybe it's bad for relations.

00:17:07.640 That's still not a strong argument against the national security interest Trump has brought up with immigration being basically is number one issue.

00:17:15.400 You need to convince voters to vote against those policies.

00:17:20.180 Amazon presents Lisa versus the mosquito surviving 100 million years.

00:17:28.280 Mosquito shook off the plate tectonic breakup of Pangea, the asteroid that eliminated the dinosaurs and the ice age.

00:17:35.720 But Lisa shopped on Amazon and bought a can of repellent, a cute long sleeve shirt and a citronella candle.

00:17:42.320 Hey, mosquito, Lisa just bodied you. Save the everyday with deals from Amazon. 1.00

00:17:50.020 The only thing they do is say, oh, well, Trump's a fascist. 0.89

00:17:53.040 It's like, give me a policy. They don't have anything. 0.96

00:17:55.860 Right. Yeah.

00:17:57.360 This is something, immigration, that largely, if they're just considering their own political interest Democrats, they should just concede on.

00:18:04.560 They should say, yeah, Biden was was had a de facto open border that was very bad for our country, bad for big cities and big city mayors.

00:18:12.460 A lot of them were complaining at the time. Never should have happened.

00:18:15.280 The border is now sealed. Good.

00:18:17.460 Let's keep it that way.

00:18:18.940 It's bad for gang members to be in here.

00:18:21.880 Let's get every single one of them out of here and make sure there's no policy to let them in ever again. 1.00

00:18:27.220 People overstaying visas is wrong. It's illegal.

00:18:30.520 If it's just a conduit for visa overstays for this country, let's shut it down from this country. 0.99

00:18:35.480 And then you can argue about the kind of legal immigration we can have or maybe, you know, an amnesty for people who've been here a long time.

00:18:41.520 But they have no credibility on immigration.

00:18:44.220 So even when they advance a view that I probably disagree with, but is reasonable, most people are just going to figure, oh, there they go again.

00:18:49.980 They're in favor of illegal immigrants. 0.97

00:18:51.580 Right. You know, it's funny.

00:18:52.600 I think that their only actual path towards victory would be to bring a person up there, you know, on the stage who just says, yeah, Trump's right about everything. 1.00

00:19:01.260 He's just kind of a dick. 0.97

00:19:03.200 And then and then people would like you're going to capture the. 0.99

00:19:07.420 Here's the problem.

00:19:08.740 It is it is unreasonable to hate Trump.

00:19:12.180 Unreasonably.

00:19:12.580 I mean, I don't I do not see a logical argument for hating Donald Trump.

00:19:18.740 I can understand someone saying I disagree with them.

00:19:21.580 I can understand when libertarians are like, look, his policy here is bad and I don't like this.

00:19:26.180 But you don't hate hate him.

00:19:28.700 So the challenge for Democrats is going to be how do you even try to say Trump is right about immigration without also irrationally hating the guy and sounding like you're just inauthentic?

00:19:39.600 Yeah. So I would say he does genuinely offend a lot of people.

00:19:45.200 So I think the strategy of calling the dick and saying he's in favor of the rich no matter what he says would make much more sense than what they're doing now. 0.68

00:19:56.420 Yeah. 0.98

00:19:56.680 There's just still beholden to the left.

00:19:58.460 I mean, there's just been little signs.

00:20:00.100 Right.

00:20:00.340 Occasionally you'll get some center on Meet the Press saying, oh, yeah, yeah, Biden shouldn't have done that at the border.

00:20:05.400 You get Gavin on his podcast saying it's not fair for guys to compete against girls.

00:20:10.700 But these are just real small concessions.

00:20:13.180 Or with the Biden stuff we started talking about with KJP, yeah, I should have dropped out sooner. 0.93

00:20:17.700 But none of them will just actually rip the Band-Aid off and tell the truth about these issues and get in a much more reasonable place.

00:20:24.500 And if they wanted to, like take immigration again, for example, the ACLU, all these pressure groups would viciously attack them and call them racist.

00:20:33.000 Right.

00:20:33.460 We're used to being called names like that by such organizations.

00:20:37.540 Right.

00:20:37.740 You probably encounter it every single day.

00:20:39.500 They're not.

00:20:40.220 It freaks them out.

00:20:41.080 They can't handle it.

00:20:42.740 And that's why they end up kowtowing to the positions of these folks, even if they don't agree with them themselves or truth serum and say, maybe we shouldn't do this.

00:20:50.440 They're too scared to break with them.

00:20:52.320 Yeah, I've been thinking about it.

00:20:53.100 I wonder if the issue for Democrats was that there's a huge bifurcation between generations in how they consumed media and how they viewed the world.

00:21:01.580 So they're trying to balance this old school establishment kind of Democratic Party, which is, say, the Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi, with this new progressive AOC type.

00:21:11.420 But they hate each other.

00:21:13.120 So you try and bring policies forward that the American people largely like.

00:21:20.240 Let's say, you know, two to one restrict the border.

00:21:24.580 The younger generation is pro-open borders.

00:21:26.580 We had Nick Shirley's reporter in Minneapolis, the FBI was doing a drug raid or I think it was a human trafficking and drug bust.

00:21:35.200 And leftist protesters were trying to obstruct the arrest.

00:21:39.100 Now, if you go on a debate stage and say, we're going to support our FBI as they stop these human traffickers, almost everyone's going to agree.

00:21:47.280 And then the weirdo progressive left are going to be like, boo.

00:21:50.720 If the Democrats try to go the moderate route, I feel like they'll lose eight to 10 percent of the vote and they can't win.

00:21:56.580 So let me ask you, Tim.

00:21:58.880 So on authenticity, you're a good judge of this.

00:22:01.600 Do you consider AOC authentic?

00:22:03.480 No way.

00:22:04.920 Why not?

00:22:05.740 Well, when she first ran, she was very much in the, you know, pro-Hamas. 0.94

00:22:11.820 I'm sorry.

00:22:12.520 That's a little hard.

00:22:13.760 The pro-Palestine side, anti-Israel side.

00:22:16.740 And then once she gets elected, she goes, actually, I don't know a whole lot about it.

00:22:20.720 Instantly gets caught up on that.

00:22:22.000 She also lied about January 6th.

00:22:24.580 To be what I would say is if you don't actually follow the news, you might consider her to be more authentic just because she's a better personality.

00:22:35.260 But for someone who follows the news, you're like, she's full of it.

00:22:37.840 She's just lying.

00:22:38.680 Which, to be fair, is a lot of politicians.

00:22:40.400 But she comes off as less plastic than most of the Democrats, but still fairly plastic. 0.86

00:22:47.240 Yeah.

00:22:47.800 So, again, my take is they need to have an open process, and they need to be open to someone coming in and disrupting it who they don't know or they're not comfortable with.

00:22:55.960 Again, this happened with Republicans in 2016.

00:22:57.860 That's how you get something new.

00:22:59.620 That's how you get something authentic.

00:23:01.200 That's how you get maybe someone who figures out some of these issues we're talking about.

00:23:05.320 But if the establishment keeps controlling it the way they have, it's going to be continued futility.

00:23:12.040 I don't think there is a single Democrat who could actually run 2028 right now.

00:23:16.420 I don't know if you agree or disagree.

00:23:18.400 Do you see somebody where you're like, maybe?

00:23:21.340 Don't say new someone.

00:23:22.500 All right, but Gavin has an authenticity problem.

00:23:25.340 Right.

00:23:26.400 Everybody wants it.

00:23:27.240 Talented in a lot of ways, though.

00:23:28.320 He's talented.

00:23:29.620 And more fearless than a lot of the rest of them, right?

00:23:33.580 He'll have Steve Bannon or Charlie on his podcast.

00:23:36.180 He'll go on Fox News.

00:23:37.260 He'll debate with DeSantis.

00:23:39.180 But even if he was authentic, he looks inauthentic, right?

00:23:43.620 Yep.

00:23:44.400 And he's not authentic.

00:23:45.380 And he's a California progressive, and he'd have to kind of run to the middle.

00:23:49.380 And I don't see how it's going to work.

00:23:51.160 Josh Shapiro?

00:23:52.880 Yeah, maybe.

00:23:55.120 But I think the problem is he's Jewish. 1.00

00:23:58.520 And there is a wing of the Democratic Party that, although many of them try to purport that it's actually about Zionism and Israel, they're just, they hate Jews. 0.69

00:24:09.400 I think that was the calculus with why they chose not to have him as VP.

00:24:13.480 What I had read was that Dearborn, Michigan, largely Muslim, would not vote for a ticket with a Jewish man on it.

00:24:22.180 Nothing personal, very religious, and they could potentially lose a state.

00:24:25.860 So they opted for Tim Waltz instead.

00:24:28.960 This is the problem with the hyper-segmented Democratic Party.

00:24:34.420 They know they need to pull to the center and agree with Trump on most of his policies.

00:24:38.880 But then you're going to lose a lot of the progressives who want weird policies.

00:24:43.600 Yeah.

00:24:44.020 I mean, speaking of authenticity, Waltz is such a great example of this, right?

00:24:47.180 So they figured because he wears plaid shirts, he's going to appeal to men, you know, rural men.

00:24:52.940 The guy can't handle a shotgun, right?

00:24:55.840 He's sort of an urban person's ideal of a rural person. 0.99

00:24:59.820 I mean, it was ridiculous and a complete doofus. 0.98

00:25:03.040 I think maybe that's what they wanted. 0.99

00:25:06.520 It felt like when he did that bit where he was like, I eat tacos without seasoning on it.

00:25:10.880 It's like, what are you talking about?

00:25:12.360 Gordon Ramsey is a white guy.

00:25:13.380 He seasoned Emeril Lagasse, bam, his food.

00:25:15.760 What do you mean you're not putting pepper on your tacos?

00:25:18.360 That was ridiculously inauthentic.

00:25:21.360 Yeah.

00:25:21.720 Yeah.

00:25:22.580 Yeah.

00:25:23.700 And then what they did with him, you see that bit where he said he could code talk to white guys?

00:25:29.000 Yeah.

00:25:29.500 Yeah.

00:25:29.740 Yeah.

00:25:30.100 It was funny.

00:25:30.980 I was debating this liberal woman and she mentioned code switching. 1.00

00:25:35.280 And I said, what is code switching?

00:25:37.760 And she's like, you know, like in the black community, they speak one way. 0.98

00:25:41.100 But then when they want to talk to white people, they code switch.

00:25:44.280 And I was like, yeah, conservatives don't do that.

00:25:46.800 Conservatives just talk the same way to everybody.

00:25:49.800 Liberals don't get this because they change the

00:25:52.580 the way they talk, depending on who they're talking to.

00:25:55.540 That probably is their biggest inauthenticity problem.

00:25:59.620 But let me let me switch it around.

00:26:02.020 The Republicans got a lot of talent.

00:26:04.040 But when Trump leaves, who do you think steps up?

00:26:06.660 Oh, I have no idea.

00:26:11.240 So these are totally speculative thoughts.

00:26:15.620 Make of them what you will.

00:26:17.560 But broadly speaking, right, successful presidency, JD has a huge advantage.

00:26:23.660 Failed presidency, JD is going to have a hard time.

00:26:28.780 So JD, I think, is hugely impressive, right?

00:26:31.620 In the campaign, he went on basically any interview show.

00:26:36.080 He never got cornered.

00:26:37.460 He very often cornered his interviewer.

00:26:39.840 Maybe like two missteps the entire campaign.

00:26:43.460 He's so smart and in-depth.

00:26:45.940 He's very good at this.

00:26:47.160 The question is, when he's alone on the stage, does he have that performative ability that

00:26:54.240 is absolutely essential?

00:26:55.500 This was a key X factor with Trump.

00:26:57.860 So does JD have enough of it?

00:27:00.580 I don't know.

00:27:01.320 I think that's an open question.

00:27:03.220 But I think it'll be a big field.

00:27:06.120 You'll probably have DeSantis running.

00:27:07.880 You'll have Cruz running.

00:27:09.200 You'll have various other senators running.

00:27:10.820 Rubio, probably.

00:27:12.000 What's that?

00:27:12.680 I'd imagine Rubio.

00:27:13.800 Do you think Rubio?

00:27:14.300 Yeah, I think he, you know, once you've done it, once you have that bug, it doesn't go

00:27:19.820 away.

00:27:20.520 So clearly, you know, he's thinking about it.

00:27:23.140 So it could be a big field.

00:27:24.940 And I just, I'm so bad at predicting these things, you know, even two months out.

00:27:28.400 I hesitate to say anything about 28.

00:27:30.740 You know, I actually have a lot of confidence in it being JD Vance simply because in the Republican

00:27:37.220 primary with the DeSantis v. Trump crowd fighting each other, it was pretty brutal.

00:27:42.460 A lot of the view was that DeSantis is a proven governor.

00:27:45.800 He's got a great state.

00:27:46.740 He's done tremendous things there.

00:27:48.480 And he's got the decorum.

00:27:49.720 Trump does not.

00:27:51.200 Whereas the Trump base thought DeSantis was too weak.

00:27:53.400 He didn't have the charisma.

00:27:54.680 The weird shoe thing was a fiasco.

00:27:57.480 I look at JD Vance and I feel like he combines both worlds.

00:28:00.720 He's so far so good with Trump administration.

00:28:03.760 He's got a, he's got political history, but you're right.

00:28:06.320 If, if there is a successful presidency with Trump, JD Vance, I feel could do even better

00:28:11.160 as he's got the decorum.

00:28:13.920 He's got authentic personality.

00:28:15.620 He's got the policies.

00:28:17.100 He seems to fit.

00:28:18.160 But I look at the Democrat side and I'm like, they got, they've got maybe a year to figure

00:28:24.940 out who they're going to start putting up in, in, in these media positions to get ready

00:28:29.060 for a primary.

00:28:29.700 And I don't know how they muster it.

00:28:31.660 I, I'm baffled.

00:28:34.100 Maybe it's cooked.

00:28:35.800 Yeah.

00:28:36.220 So I can see JD, you know, works on paper, but again, you gotta, you gotta go out and you

00:28:40.540 gotta go out and do it and prove it.

00:28:42.060 And there's the added element of, so he's the clear successor to Trump, you just think

00:28:46.640 right at this, speaking at this hour, but does Trump think there's a successor to Trump?

00:28:52.260 Right.

00:28:52.460 Is Trump going to be kind of pissed at the idea that there's someone who thinks he's a

00:28:55.740 successor at Trump?

00:28:57.120 Now I think JD is extremely deft and he'll handle this relationship in, in, in the right

00:29:01.760 way, but that's, that's going to be very, that's gonna be very interesting.

00:29:05.540 Maybe we're wrong.

00:29:06.180 There was, um, this, who was it?

00:29:08.040 Barbara F. 0.79

00:29:08.720 Walter.

00:29:09.200 Do you know who she is?

00:29:09.840 She's this former CIA analyst who's predicted civil war in the United States.

00:29:15.380 And she's now saying that Trump will, uh, incite a, an international war so that he can

00:29:23.880 force a third term for himself.

00:29:27.200 Yeah.

00:29:28.120 Um, I, I don't think he's very interested in international war, you know, all the things

00:29:33.640 you can say about Trump, he's not a warmonger.

00:29:35.900 So that I would say that that's the first flaw in the theory there, there, there's a couple

00:29:41.440 others.

00:29:42.360 I would just say that if I was going to make a bet, I would not go with the historically 0.67

00:29:46.020 unprecedented first and probably just say the VP runs, but I suppose we'll see.

00:29:52.240 Uh, I do appreciate you, uh, coming on to talk with me about this, uh, uh, all these issues.

00:29:56.000 Uh, where, where can people find out more from you or your organization?

00:30:00.020 Well, nationalreview.com.

00:30:01.780 And also I should mention, I'm the host of, uh, um, a podcast called the editors round

00:30:06.220 table.

00:30:06.660 We do twice a week.

00:30:07.880 So you can find that wherever you listen to your podcast, the editors.

00:30:11.160 Right on.

00:30:11.660 Well, Rich, thanks so much for hanging out and we'll, uh, we'll see you next time.

00:30:14.400 I appreciate it.

00:30:15.240 It's been a pleasure.

00:30:15.920 Likewise.

00:30:16.220 Take care.

00:30:18.160 All right.

00:30:19.340 Always fun.

00:30:20.280 That was the national review.

00:30:21.840 Uh, they're, they're great.

00:30:23.560 You know, you know, it's funny in conservative media, there are, there's the mega populist

00:30:27.740 type and they'll get mad at the national review for their opinions.

00:30:30.980 And then, you know, it is what it is.

00:30:33.100 I think so long as you're not pretending that Joe Biden is competent during the Biden presidency,

00:30:37.540 we can get along.

00:30:38.620 Uh, I have no problem disagreeing with you guys, any, be it liberal, conservative, or otherwise.

00:30:44.120 So long as you aren't lying to me, come to me and tell me that, you know, you know,

00:30:49.060 it's funny.

00:30:49.580 I met this communist guy in Berkeley.

00:30:52.240 And I said, he's, he's, he's wearing a mask.

00:30:54.980 He's got a sickle and hammer.

00:30:56.500 He's got literature.

00:30:58.180 And I said, oh, so you're a communist.

00:31:00.020 He's like, yeah, yeah.

00:31:01.120 And then I said, what do you think about the, uh, the Antifa people, the violent ones?

00:31:04.780 He's like, man, it's really bad.

00:31:06.600 It's bad for us.

00:31:07.480 And I said, really?

00:31:08.180 You think it's bad?

00:31:08.780 He goes, yeah, man, you're not supposed to be hurting people and attacking them.

00:31:12.560 We're supposed to be working together.

00:31:14.100 We're supposed to be united to make the world better.

00:31:16.580 And I was like, yes, I agree.

00:31:18.860 And he's like, they shouldn't be doing it.

00:31:20.400 And I was like, okay, buddy.

00:31:21.840 I shook his hand.

00:31:22.600 I said, dude, you're allowed to be a communist.

00:31:25.000 You're allowed to be wrong.

00:31:26.960 Let's just not be violent about it.

00:31:29.040 And that's, that's, there is the challenge though.

00:31:30.820 Because I understand they say, um, you can vote your way into communism, but you've got

00:31:35.080 to shoot your way out.

00:31:35.860 That's the saying, right?

00:31:37.140 But I can respect a conversation with someone when we disagree on the function of an economy

00:31:41.240 or government, so long as we agree to be honest and not mercilessly beat people in the streets.

00:31:46.400 That's a bare minimum, right?

00:31:48.340 My friends, I got no idea how the Democratic Party is going to muster up anything for 2028.

00:31:53.520 Seriously.

00:31:53.980 Gavin Newsom, it seems like he's the guy.

00:31:57.560 I don't know who else has that level, but he ain't all that good.

00:32:02.380 I suppose we'll see.

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00:32:45.840 That's the algorithm.

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00:32:49.440 Simply, YouTube has decided to let him.

00:32:51.100 That's it.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - June 05, 2025

Democrats In TOTAL FREEFALL, ANOTHER Democrat LEAVES The Party

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