The Culture War - Tim Pool - Democrats Polling Hits ALL TIME LOW, MAGA CIVIL WAR Over Epstein ft. Mike Cernovich

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00:00:38.160 Yeah, I always ask, what are they letting me talk about? Right? That's the big question that we

00:00:44.900 should always look to as investigators. The dog that doesn't bark, what dog isn't barking and why

00:00:51.200 isn't the dog? You know, for people who never read that Sherlock Holmes story, the expression comes in

00:00:55.800 from that. They're trying to figure out who broke in and who was an intruder. And then they asked,

00:01:00.640 well, did the dog bark? The dog didn't bark. Oh, that's how you knew it was an inside job.

00:01:04.360 Yep. Right. So you're always thinking, you know, what dog isn't barking?

00:01:07.680 Now, right now, it appears, my friends, the media is reporting that Trump is reeling from the

00:01:14.320 accusations about Epstein and that his aides and allies are going to keep silent on the matter.

00:01:21.520 But it is interesting because while this is currently going on, Deep State's James Clapper

00:01:26.120 has lawyered up. Barack Obama directly addressing claims that he committed treason in a strike force.

00:01:33.220 The split is massive. This country is facing something tremendous from a declining birth rate

00:01:39.380 and now an all time rock bottom polling for Democrats and a split in the MAGA base.

00:01:47.220 What comes next? Honestly, we don't know. It's a bit chaotic, to say the least. While many in this

00:01:54.140 country are predicting some kind of civil war, where do we go as a nation when the highest factions of

00:02:01.220 power, the highest echelon of power in the Democrat and Republican side are accusing each other of

00:02:07.700 treason against these United States? With Democrats currently polling at rock bottom numbers, I don't

00:02:14.540 know that Donald Trump needs to do anything other than make sure people have food on their tables.

00:02:20.720 But it's tough because the Epstein story is not going to go away. It's not going to go away.

00:02:25.540 And it appears that Trump believes his name may be falsely included in the documents based on the

00:02:32.320 current mainstream reporting. So there it is, my friends. The question I have for you as we get

00:02:35.940 into this interview and we break down what's currently going on. The current reporting right now

00:02:40.620 is that the Epstein files contain unverified hearsay, nothing that could prove or be probable

00:02:47.500 cause for an investigation into Trump, but makes it seem like Trump may have been involved with

00:02:52.760 Epstein in rather disturbing ways. Now, most people, I think, want to see the files and know

00:02:57.380 for sure. But with Democrats now in just unison, demanding the release of these files and with

00:03:03.660 Trump claiming it's a Democrat hoax, perhaps there is something Trump knows that we don't.

00:03:08.840 The reporting is that Pam Bonney told Trump his name is in the files. All of a sudden,

00:03:12.360 Trump says we don't want the files released. Trump then says it's all a Democrat hoax.

00:03:16.740 Could it be that Trump is responding to information we don't have that unverified

00:03:22.240 hearsay included in these documents will smear Trump as somehow involved in the Epstein

00:03:27.460 trafficking ring? Again, nothing that could actually criminally implicate him,

00:03:33.400 but enough to damage his reputation in rather disturbing ways. Trump sees this and says they're

00:03:38.920 lying. The Democrats under Obama put this information there as a time bomb against me.

00:03:44.000 Now, without the American people knowing anything about this, Trump comes out and says,

00:03:47.580 it's a hoax. It's a Democrat hoax, making him look worse. I don't know for sure.

00:03:53.040 But I'm curious to ask Mike Cernovich. He's the guy who cracked this story open. He's been

00:03:59.240 talking about it quite a bit. We're going to bring him in now. Let's boot it up.

00:04:05.400 See if we can get it all working here and get the camera rolling and bring in Mike.

00:04:10.120 All right. We got Mike Cernovich here. Mike, can you hear me?

00:04:15.560 Yes, sir.

00:04:16.200 Hey, man. How's it going?

00:04:17.900 Doing well, brother. Doing well.

00:04:19.540 Right on. So we got it. We got a lot going on with this.

00:04:22.340 We're looking at record low approval for Democrats.

00:04:25.240 We're looking at reports of the MAGA base splitting.

00:04:29.100 Gen Z maybe is upset with Trump. Maybe it's because Trump's not far right enough, 0.70

00:04:32.380 but it does look like there's some tumult.

00:04:34.000 So you've got Trump being accused by the Democrats, the corporate press of being in

00:04:39.440 the Epstein files. Meanwhile, you've got the Trump admin basically accusing Barack Obama

00:04:44.560 of treason. The two highest echelons of power, the Democrat Republican side accusing each other

00:04:50.920 of high crimes. And so a lot to go through. But let me start here. Some of the reports that

00:04:56.620 have come out have said that Pam Bondi has told Trump he's in the files.

00:05:01.440 They say that there's unverified hearsay in them that may paint Trump in a negative light,

00:05:07.740 and he doesn't want these files released. Trump's gone on to say that this is all one

00:05:11.760 big Democrat hoax, insinuating that there is negative information about him in those files.

00:05:18.080 I'm curious what your thoughts are on Trump's positioning in these files and what it means.

00:05:23.640 We were we were told all this in February. I mean, back when we were at Shelley's. It's weird

00:05:27.940 that the Wall Street Journal is reporting this as some kind of exclusive news. Anybody who was there

00:05:33.780 and you and you should have been there will tell you that. So that's being repackaged as something

00:05:40.200 that it's not. Everyone that's told, oh, here's the black book. That's what that was for people who

00:05:45.640 are. I forget how old I am. For people who are younger, before you had an iPhone, you kept a book,

00:05:50.180 black book, and you would write down everybody's numbers in there from business associates to people

00:05:55.300 you knew. It's not some weird, you know, mysterious thing. Ivanka is not a bunch of a bunch of phone

00:06:00.720 numbers were in there of random people. And that somehow spins out into Trump. You know, Trump is

00:06:09.320 Trump is in the Epstein files, and he really doesn't want him out. I just don't think Trump was ever

00:06:13.760 really briefed on the Epstein stuff. Anybody who was there's two, there's a big, a big tension right

00:06:20.760 now, right now in like the MAGA base. And that is Trump's first term was not good. It was objectively

00:06:30.600 like not good. People love to dig up my old tweets in that era, like they got me and are embarrassing

00:06:36.180 me. And I go, oh, no, I stand behind. I stand behind all of those. And I was vindicated. It took a while

00:06:41.580 to be vindicated. Because during Trump's first term, I said, why doesn't his director of

00:06:46.360 intelligence release all the Russiagate files? Yep. So Tulsi Gabbard does that in 2025. And this

00:06:51.920 isn't shade on Tulsi. Tulsi is great. But then people like, yeah, sick, based. Oh, great. So when

00:06:59.940 you were yelling at me eight years ago to trust a plan, and I'm a never Trumper, and you hate me, 0.63

00:07:04.680 things that I wanted done are done eight years later. You're like, wow, freaking off. This is all 0.78

00:07:10.240 basic stuff. So it looks like, you know, the media is saying, I think it was, I can't remember if it

00:07:17.340 was media or Axios, that Trump, oh, actually, everybody's saying this. Trump launched the

00:07:21.740 attack against Obama as a way to distract from the Epstein files. Why didn't the Trump admin

00:07:27.240 dump this stuff in the first term? Why are they doing it now? Well, Tulsi, again, that's where

00:07:34.460 knowing the, knowing how the people, the moves work better is the, the fundamental understanding

00:07:40.620 of Trump is Trump. Trump is about Trump. So you have to find a way to make things about Trump in

00:07:46.500 a good way. The neocons are trying to force out Tulsi. Remember a couple of weeks ago, the neocons

00:07:51.660 almost had her out. They said she was a spy. She was leaking information. They somehow convinced

00:07:57.520 Hegseth to fire two or three people very loyal to him, a choice that he absolutely regrets. You got to

00:08:03.160 remember the neocons were trying to push out Hegseth and Tulsi. So then Tulsi found a way in

00:08:09.000 Trump world. You got to prove your worth, man. And proving your worth is how you make Trump look

00:08:14.040 good. And, you know, I've had talks to other people. If you've been in the military or on a team,

00:08:19.920 this is not like an insulting thing to say. Protect the quarterback. Trump's the quarterback.

00:08:25.240 That's just what you, if you're a lineman, what do you do? You protect the quarterback. That's the way it

00:08:28.420 goes. If you're in the military and you get yelled at, you get your butt chewed out. Okay. You just got 0.99

00:08:32.620 your butt chewed out. Go talk to your wife and friends about it. Go wind down. Not, not a big 1.00

00:08:37.360 deal. So Tulsi had to earn her keep, so to speak, by releasing this stuff. Trump has always been

00:08:43.520 obsessed about Russiagate, which he should be. So, so the timing of that isn't related to the

00:08:49.280 Epstein files at all. The, uh, on the, on the files, Trump has said it's a Democrat hoax.

00:08:54.900 And with the report that Bondi told him, his name's appearing in it. And there's unverified

00:09:00.840 hearsay. It sounds like she did. And then Trump looked at it was like, this is not real.

00:09:08.840 Then truths out. It's a hoax to hoax. But without the context that his name appeared in it,

00:09:15.400 it sounds like he's saying Epstein did nothing wrong. Yeah. It's been handled very poorly.

00:09:20.800 There's, there's the narrative of what Trump is losing and he's losing it badly, especially

00:09:25.040 amongst zoomers and, uh, the comedian podcaster circuit, which people can say what they will 0.71

00:09:32.000 about it, but though that helps, um, in close elections, everything helps. And it's not being

00:09:38.200 dismissive of anybody, uh, like that is, is bad. The Nelk boys are taking heat. Dylan sounds 0.99

00:09:44.080 like Tim Dylan sounds like he's upset. And maybe, maybe I don't consider these people to be serious

00:09:48.740 political thinkers or political philosophers, but they undeniably have an energy about them

00:09:55.900 and aura that when you're in a close election, you, you want those guys or you want to be on

00:10:01.180 the same side of them. They reach normies. It's pretty obvious. They reach, they reach regular

00:10:04.680 people. Yeah. So Trump is losing the narrative war badly. Um, as someone who is familiar with these

00:10:12.580 issues, like I know for a fact, neither Thomas Massey nor Pam Bondi has ever said, let's call

00:10:20.320 in the people who have investigated the Epstein matter and get a briefing from them. This has

00:10:24.240 just not happened. This is why a lot of people don't understand. I know you like Massey. I know

00:10:28.120 a lot of people like Massey. Um, uh, but I've been talking about Epstein since 2017. Alex Jones was

00:10:34.140 talking about it 10 years before that Jessica House and Habit has done detailed reporting on Epstein

00:10:39.640 for years. There's none of these people, no, no, no, nobody from Massey's office, even when I was

00:10:45.680 trying to get him to, or Rand Paul's office, they said, Hey man, what is this Epstein thing that all

00:10:49.840 you people have been talking about since it's never happened? And then they're like, Oh, the Epstein

00:10:54.820 files. And here's Massey with the picture of a binder. It's like, well, you don't even know what

00:10:58.360 this is about. And the same thing is true with Pam Bondi. She doesn't know what it's about. She's got 0.91

00:11:02.800 10,000 things to worry about, dude. Every day there's terrorist attacks playing on everything.

00:11:07.140 So what you have to do is if you really cared, you would have people like me who I have time to go

00:11:14.440 on a side quest, right? There are times where weeks at a time, people go, Oh, Cerno is really

00:11:20.060 like falling off. What happened to him? You know, he's not relevant anymore. And then all of a sudden

00:11:25.240 I come out and everybody's like, Oh, wow. It's like, yeah, because I, I have the, the leisure to just

00:11:31.400 say, you know what I'm going to think about for the next eight weeks. It's just some weird issue.

00:11:35.120 Well, this is funny. Cause I remember we had this debate with Ian. I talked to you about it.

00:11:38.520 For those that watch Tim cast IRL, he said that he was basically saying, I'll keep it light. I won't

00:11:43.340 bring the other guy in this, but that you are not significant. And I'm sitting here being like,

00:11:46.480 we, the whole Epstein thing happening right now that is directly affecting potentially the midterms

00:11:52.280 of the presidency is because Mike Cernovich filed a lawsuit and was investigating and uncovering the

00:11:56.640 stuff. It's like, everybody expects you to be on X 24 seven filming videos so they can see your

00:12:02.660 face. Otherwise you're not doing any work. But, uh, and that's why I think it's, it's,

00:12:06.840 that's why we reached out to you. We want to talk to you about what's going on right now,

00:12:09.720 because I think you make a really good point. So we'll bring it back to, to Massey, Rand Paul,

00:12:14.120 uh, even Pam Bondi. You made a really good point with Massey. Uh, why don't they bring in,

00:12:20.280 I mean, look, if they're not going to bring in you, they could bring in Acosta or, or any of these

00:12:23.480 investigators or prosecutors. They could bring in Comey's daughter and have them testify 0.88

00:12:28.400 and give statements, but they're not doing anything. I, it's, it's like they're, they're

00:12:33.560 basically all we're getting is publish the files or don't. And even among the influencer base and the

00:12:39.760 regular people, I think there's a serious oversight and perhaps we should all be calling

00:12:44.960 for congressional hearings alongside the, you know, the, the release of these files. So we can actually

00:12:50.080 have people be forced to testify about what happened. Members of Congress should do members

00:12:55.520 of Congress things, which is subpoena witnesses, get people under oath, hold hearings, obtain

00:13:02.500 information that can only be obtained from law enforcement sources. We don't need Thomas Massey

00:13:07.060 tweeting out release the Epstein files. Okay, cool, bro. Cool story, bro. Last I checked, you were in

00:13:12.380 Congress. DC Drano can do that. Tim can do that. The Sobit can, I can, we can all, we got that covered,

00:13:18.920 brother. We got it covered. We don't need another guy on Twitter saying we got to release these files

00:13:24.600 and posting pictures, do, do things that are congressional. And then you say, well, why

00:13:30.020 didn't any, and this is why if you're, if you're looking at it from Trump's perspective, you would

00:13:34.080 say, man, why, why didn't, because remember, Republicans had the house for a couple of years

00:13:38.820 during the Biden regime for two years. So don't tell me, oh, we couldn't, we couldn't get anything

00:13:43.480 done. So if you're Trump, all you're hearing is, oh, I'm, there's lies about me in these files.

00:13:48.780 The people who hate me, Hakeem Jeffries and Massey are now saying we need to release these

00:13:54.960 files. Obviously this is some kind of Russiagate thing directed at me, even though Trump's wrong

00:14:00.640 on the facts of it. If again, that's where people who watch your show and other shows on Twitter,

00:14:07.620 people forget, like you got a thousand things going on for a thousand things going on. If you're the

00:14:14.580 president, a thousand things, if you're paying bondage going on, and if you're us, you can have

00:14:18.780 only one thing going on. What, why is what I can't write my head around is why they're handling it so

00:14:23.760 poorly. Right. So there's a report now out of media saying that the Trump Trump's aides and allies

00:14:29.160 are going to go silent. They said, we're going to stop talking about it. So it goes away.

00:14:33.700 And I'm sitting here thinking like, why would you publicly announce this? Why would you mishandle the

00:14:39.820 PR around us in the first place? If Dan Bongino came out on day one and simply said, guys, it's an

00:14:46.320 ongoing investigation. I wish I could tell you more. That would be the end of it. So what are

00:14:51.160 they doing? I think there are people in the white house communications team who are way too worried

00:14:57.940 about the Israel angle way more. Cause I've looked at things left, right, and center. And I even got

00:15:03.700 called a massage show, which is like pretty funny for anybody remotely familiar with my body of work.

00:15:09.000 I'm just like, there's no way Israel could run this without our intelligence agencies being a part

00:15:13.560 of it. That's just not how, how, not how things work. But there's, there was like a, there's like

00:15:18.220 a weird sign up where like Mark Levin, who was talking about the Epstein files a year ago is now,

00:15:23.140 well, you can't, you know, you can't talk about anymore. So I think they got psyoped by the,

00:15:28.280 oh, this is really going to damage Israel angle. And then they're pressing Trump to not talk about it

00:15:34.140 because they're worried about that angle, which is of course only making things worse. I mean,

00:15:38.080 the reaction, you know, I'm not one to talk about Zoom or gossip, like I'm some like cool guy in

00:15:43.200 touch with things, but then the NELP boys really are getting their budge chewed out because they had

00:15:49.180 Netanyahu on. Dude, I would interview Netanyahu and I would just ask him normal questions and then let

00:15:54.620 other people dissect it because yelling at people doesn't work. Like, oh, you know, it's a genocide.

00:16:00.580 No, that doesn't work. That gets you a clip that maybe like Anna Kasparian screaming at peers. 1.00

00:16:06.560 Maybe that gets you a clip that your little group likes, but you just look kind of like a lunatic.

00:16:11.280 Well, here's the hard reality, I guess, is people there, there, there are a lot of smart and good 0.63

00:16:16.820 people who are focused, discerning and want to fix this country and the world. But there's a lot of

00:16:22.140 people who simply want to see symbols of what they feel oppresses them be stricken, struck down.

00:16:28.660 And so if you get a video of you berating a liberal or a liberal gets a video of them berating a

00:16:34.340 conservative, they go viral. But yeah, the NELP boys are getting obliterated for having interviewed

00:16:40.300 Netanyahu, which is, it's crazy to me. I mean, you're supposed to interview people. Is the argument

00:16:45.340 that they have to yell at him the whole time because people hate the guy?

00:16:47.940 Right. Sure. Because it's what you said. People want catharsis. The something, you know, Adam

00:16:55.180 Towns and I read him a lot. He has a lot of interesting insights, but something that I didn't

00:16:59.140 realize is that, and this is a role that I kind of quit playing for that reason is there's a false

00:17:05.660 catharsis. So the NELP boys yelling at Netanyahu is going to go viral. And, and then that girl on

00:17:12.580 breaking points or woman, whatever, Kyle Kalinstein's wife can crystal ball, you know, base, 1.00

00:17:17.940 and you get your click little, no boys go off. And you have the thumbnail with like, ah, you know,

00:17:22.440 with the big face and everything. And everybody can like turn that content, but that, that doesn't

00:17:27.800 accomplish, that doesn't accomplish anything at all. But then the viewer feels like, whew, you know,

00:17:32.080 I got some catharsis. Like, no, catharsis is if you really think the situation's out of control there,

00:17:38.040 then you want the situation to change. Catharsis is not, um, that's what the false catharsis comes in is,

00:17:45.720 whew, you know, I got this big resolution. It's like, no, no, you just got a, a hit of dopamine

00:17:50.720 and nothing else, but that's what the audience wants. So a lot of people believe, we had Dan

00:17:57.300 Bongino on Timcast IRL a year or two ago. And he said, many believe that Epstein is some Middle

00:18:03.460 Eastern intelligence. Everybody in the comments starts laughing like Middle Eastern, bro. It's 1.00

00:18:08.320 like, come on. The insinuation is that he was working for or with Mossad. Uh, do you not see

00:18:15.020 any possibility of that? I mean, could it, could it be that he was working with us intelligence

00:18:19.040 and tangentially with Mossad? It would have to be a joint operation. So the, and I'm, you know,

00:18:25.980 I, this is all my gray hairs. What I'm trying to do, and that's why I get yelled at by the pro

00:18:31.320 Israel side and the very hardcore anti-Israels. I'm trying to help people just have a well-rounded

00:18:36.320 approach to these things. So if you're just calling him Mossad, so first of all,

00:18:43.180 Eric Weinstein has said that it might've been Mossad. So if Eric Weinstein is saying that,

00:18:47.360 then obviously, obviously the powers that be are not afraid of that being a talking point.

00:18:52.060 So you would be, you would just say, well, that's like, Eric poses no threat to the regime

00:18:56.440 or existing power structure at all. And he'll let you say it's Mossad and he'll even go down

00:19:01.100 that rabbit hole. So maybe the Mossad angles the limited hangout, which is frankly what I believe,

00:19:05.440 which enrages the anti-Israel people. Cause like, oh, you're, you're a Mossad. It's like,

00:19:10.020 no, I think the limited hangout is that it's Mossad. That's the limited hangout.

00:19:14.860 Can you define limited hangout for those that don't know what that means?

00:19:18.160 Limited hangout is when you release a little bit of information to distract people from the,

00:19:22.360 the bigger picture. And you want everybody to focus on that one piece of information and think

00:19:27.020 that that is the complete puzzle rather than a piece of the puzzle. And intelligence operatives

00:19:31.760 love to let you think that you're on to something big to keep you distracted.

00:19:36.340 I talked about this with Pizzagate. When these WikiLeaks files get, these emails get released,

00:19:42.820 you see a couple that are strange. One is Barack Obama ordered $30,000 worth of pizza and hot dogs.

00:19:50.040 And then there was another one saying there was a handkerchief with a map on it. And what ends up

00:19:55.200 happening is with, with, with the release of all these emails, you get all this information released

00:19:59.700 at once. Then comes a few select posts on social media claiming that certain words mean certain

00:20:05.840 things. And it took that story and threw it off in a faraway direction, which is classic spy craft.

00:20:11.580 My argument was they probably uncovered, a lot of the emails probably showed that politicians were 0.57

00:20:16.880 doing hardcore drugs and, and had hookers. And what they did was they, the intelligence agencies,

00:20:23.440 the spies say, we need these people to sound like lunatics. So they do the limited hangout.

00:20:28.820 They, they release a little bit of information that turns the conspiracy theory into psychobabble.

00:20:34.280 And then no one actually can track down what was really going on.

00:20:38.100 Or, or they, and what they did with that was so brilliant because, or they made it about something

00:20:44.400 that we weren't even talking about. And then, then an event happens there that makes it so we can't

00:20:50.120 talk about anything now because we were talking about the, you know, for, for people who are new,

00:20:55.020 I always just say, has any time in your life, someone emailed you to say that you left a

00:20:59.840 handkerchief, handkerchief with a map on it, right? What are we, the Goonies? And there's a treasure map

00:21:06.380 on it. Get real here. But nobody even knows about that unless you're deep in lore and you watch people

00:21:11.760 like Ian and, you know, you and a few other people. So everybody thinks that it was about the lie,

00:21:16.720 which is not what we were even talking about. But by that lie becoming so salacious and, and

00:21:22.020 whatnot, it made it so that we couldn't talk about the dominoes. Who says I was playing dominoes on

00:21:28.580 cheese? Can somebody, can somebody explain that to me? I never, my first thought was that they

00:21:34.400 were basically saying doing drugs with hookers and they're using, you know, coded language. So

00:21:39.400 there's another fascinating element to this limited hangout play, and that is retroactive

00:21:44.140 reputation damage. So they'll, they'll release a story and a hashtag. The best example is probably

00:21:50.000 alt-right. So the phrase alt-right was being used back in like 2017 by a lot of people to generally

00:21:56.680 mean new conservatives that opposed the Republican establishment. Once enough people were saying that

00:22:04.120 they were alt-right, the corporate press then put out a statement to the AP that alt-right means you're

00:22:09.340 a white nationalist who wants a country for white people and to remove immigrants. Then they go back

00:22:14.640 to past tweets and alter the context to say, look at this conservative personality who admitted they

00:22:20.860 were a white supremacist. So they can do that with all of these, these campaigns. And, you know, to bring

00:22:26.680 it back to the news and what we're talking about with, with Trump and these files, there is a, as it

00:22:31.680 pertains to the point you're making about Mossad, I think you make a good point. And we've mentioned this

00:22:38.220 last time that they allow you to say it. They want you to say it. Maybe it's a limited hangout.

00:22:42.500 And then you see how fervent people get over the issue of Israel. It's almost like the blinders turn

00:22:49.100 on and they can't assess things critically that you're sure you can criticize Israel. It's fine. 0.73

00:22:53.380 But are there other factors at play that you're being blinded to by not paying attention to the

00:22:56.960 bigger picture? Yeah. I, I was asked what, what are they letting me talk about? Right. That's the,

00:23:02.840 the big question that we should always look to as, as investigators, the, the dog that doesn't bark,

00:23:10.000 what dog isn't barking and why isn't the dog, you know, for people who never read that Sherlock

00:23:13.360 Holmes story, they saw the expression comes in from that they're trying to figure out who broke in and

00:23:18.700 who was an intruder. And then they ask, well, did the dog bark? The dog didn't bark. Oh, that's how

00:23:23.280 you knew it was an inside job. Yep. Right. So you're, you're always thinking what, you know, what dog isn't

00:23:27.520 barking. And so when I hear like, everybody can say it's Mossad. I could tweet right now. It's

00:23:33.760 Mossad. And I would have the usual pro-Israel people mad at me, but they're always mad at me

00:23:38.040 for something. But then the anti-Israel people would love me all of a sudden. Yeah, Mike, you're

00:23:42.160 finally truth telling and everything. So that tells me that it's probably the Royal family. It's,

00:23:48.760 it's something, it's something above them. I believe there's, we, we got real, we, we've talked about

00:23:54.180 this before. I think there's something above what we're, what we're allowed to see, or maybe it's

00:23:58.740 dark and below. And those are what we can't talk about. Yeah. We can't like, for example,

00:24:04.420 if you talk about, even though every religion, Islam, Judaism, they call them different things.

00:24:10.260 Some Muslims call them Jin. Every religion believes in a supernatural and every religion believes in 0.94

00:24:16.140 angels and demons. But if you say, I think that there are people acting at the behest of demons,

00:24:20.960 you can't talk about, you're a Looney Tunes. Yeah. It's like, well, wait a minute,

00:24:24.800 you go to church or temple or mosque and you pray for angels to intercede for you and you pray to God

00:24:31.320 and Allah and you believe demons are real. But if I say that humans are interacting with demons,

00:24:36.300 like I can't say that, but I can say the side. I think, I think you make a good point with,

00:24:43.460 what do you call it? Super structure or something above what we perceive. It doesn't,

00:24:47.160 it could be supernatural. I believe in, I believe we've not even yet begun to discover the true

00:24:53.420 nature of reality. It's very, very minimal. But even if it, even if it's not, and it doesn't need

00:24:57.520 to be for, for those that are more, I guess, of modern sensibilities and they don't want to believe

00:25:03.720 that stuff, it's fairly simple that there would be a power structure that doesn't want you to know

00:25:08.940 what it's doing. And some, some we know the name of and some we don't. I've described it like we are

00:25:14.720 chickens in a chicken coop. And what I mean by that is I got chickens and I literally do not

00:25:19.520 care about their day-to-day business. They can act like that henna's in charge and that rooster's in

00:25:24.260 charge and I don't know or care. I go in every day, I take their eggs from them. And so long as they

00:25:29.360 produce, their politics mean nothing to me. But you know what happens when some of the chickens start

00:25:35.200 fighting, what do we do? We don't go in there and mediate. We don't negotiate. We put plastic blinders

00:25:40.900 over their eyes. Not a joke. We put blinders over their eyes so they can't see each other anymore

00:25:45.460 and it stops them from fighting. So I think there's a strong probability. There are power

00:25:50.160 structures that we can't see. That's why it seems like every time a new politician gets in,

00:25:55.200 they fall in line with certain policies that we all are mad about because the actual power structures

00:26:01.560 want their eggs. They want the product of the labor and they don't care about what you and I are 0.99

00:26:07.320 talking about. And so you make a good point about Mossad. They let you say certain things. But when

00:26:12.940 Donald Trump got impeached, if you even typed the name Eric Charmel on any social platform, they would

00:26:18.800 delete that instantly without notice. Now that was weird. Yeah. And it was, it was to such a degree

00:26:26.960 that MAGA people don't even know that I was the one who broke that story about Eric Charmela way

00:26:33.740 before it was the so-called whistleblower. People are like, cause you, cause you couldn't even say

00:26:38.240 it. And again, that, that goes to what are you not being allowed to talk about? And why is that?

00:26:45.140 And then of course the, I, I, I sort of believe that we could be, I don't want to believe it,

00:26:50.020 but sometimes I believe in my darker moments that we're just an energy farm and that's why we're

00:26:56.140 programmed to reproduce. And that's why it's so much harder to love than to hate.

00:26:59.440 So much. Yeah. Yeah. So I, I, I go down there, but even if you don't go supernatural and you only

00:27:07.360 look at, like, I always tell people, I don't know what the federal reserve does. I know I can tell

00:27:12.260 you what they tell us. They do. Right. I know the official story, nobody here. And then I know

00:27:17.280 people in wall street and then I find out how the federal reserve really works and you go, oh no,

00:27:21.340 they just, they just give money to these hedge funds at 0% interest and let them do whatever they

00:27:25.980 want with it. And these hedge funders then come on, on Twitter, like they're geniuses.

00:27:29.440 Financial, you know, that's why they're also mad at Tucker because Tucker has been talking more

00:27:33.860 about high finance and how it really works. So you don't have to go to where I am. I would just

00:27:40.240 tell it, say people, Hey, what's the discount window with the federal reserve? And how does that work?

00:27:43.760 You know, let me, let me just, you know, the last few minutes we got here as I, as I use this analogy,

00:27:48.400 yours is more like we are an energy farm, whatever. I use the analogy of the chickens in a coop, but

00:27:53.460 what happens when your chickens stop producing and you can't get them under control?

00:27:56.760 You call the flock, right? Do you think there's a possibility that if there is some kind of

00:28:01.480 superstructure that say Donald Trump gets into office and says, we're going to fix this. And

00:28:06.700 then they basically tell him, if you do anything out of line, we'll purge humanity. We'll wipe the

00:28:12.680 farm and start fresh. We will flood the earth or something that affect. It wouldn't surprise me.

00:28:19.440 I mean, look at what world war, world war two happened to world war two, right? And world war

00:28:24.100 one. And then you start to look into the, the lending practices happening in world war one. And

00:28:28.980 you look at the, that's also why the Mossad angle kind of annoys me is if you look at the sinking of

00:28:34.260 ships and everything, there's no like Mossad to blame on that. That's just why Anglo-Saxon 0.69

00:28:38.500 Protestants doing that. And cause there's even a video going around where like, oh yeah,

00:28:43.520 Cernovich is saying it's antisemitic to say it's Mossad. And if you watch the full video, it's no,

00:28:49.160 no, I'm saying that, that false flags were happening in white Anglo-Saxon America. So if

00:28:55.200 you have this unusual, or even if you look at the 9-11 conspiracy theories, even if you accepted one

00:29:01.620 part of it, you would still have to accept the Carlisle group, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush,

00:29:07.560 who was working with the Mexicans at oil interests. And people get really mad when you bring that up.

00:29:12.620 Or if you want to talk about open borders, you have to talk about Catholic charities.

00:29:16.660 No, no, no. But they don't want to hear that though. They don't want to hear about how the

00:29:20.280 Pope is openly open borders. And the Pope before that was, they only want to hear about what they

00:29:25.540 can say about Jews and the Jews and everything. Whereas what I'm trying to do, and I don't think

00:29:29.720 I'm winning. I think I'm losing badly on this. I'll admit that is I'm trying to say, if you take a

00:29:35.260 well-rounded group, a well-rounded approach, groups are acting in all sorts of ways. Multiple groups are,

00:29:41.040 and that would be the case with Epstein.

00:29:43.480 I think what's going to happen, we're already watching this trend. Long-form content is starting

00:29:47.980 to weaken, and it's being replaced by these short-form TikTok shorts, Instagram reels,

00:29:53.220 YouTube shorts. I think the strategy from the elite is, the reason why Trump won't ban TikTok,

00:30:00.420 get everybody hyper-focused on random static noise, and they will never be focused enough to

00:30:07.700 interfere with our objectives. I think that's where we're headed right now, culturally.

00:30:12.480 Yeah, they play on you emotionally in a short bit. Because I've programmed an algorithm to be

00:30:18.100 really bad. And I'm like, thank God I'm almost 50. Because if I were in my 20s, had a crummy

00:30:24.480 apartment, a crummy job, was overweight from all this GMO food stuff, hormonally dysregulated,

00:30:31.020 you're trying to date, but they're flying out to Dubai and getting what done to them,

00:30:37.840 I'd be like, dude, I would be mad. I would really be mad. And whereas I watch it, I'm only slightly

00:30:44.120 annoyed.

00:30:44.960 Yeah. Well, Mike, you raise a good point. Next time I speak with, say, Massey or Rep Khanna,

00:30:52.280 if we do, we reach out to them relatively often, especially on this stuff. I'm going to ask them

00:30:56.120 exactly that. Why don't they bring people in for testimony, bring the investigators,

00:31:00.340 bring the prosecutors, bring people like you in to go over the research, and actually discuss this

00:31:05.100 in the public light instead of, it's a good point, release the documents, Mike Johnson won't do it,

00:31:09.520 then Trump says don't. And so you get talking points, and nothing actually ends up happening.

00:31:14.040 So I will do that. In the meantime, where can people find you?

00:31:18.760 Twitter, X, Cernovich, X marks the spot, Cernovich.

00:31:22.760 Right on, man. I really do appreciate you joining and talking about your views on this,

00:31:26.960 and we'll see you next time.

00:31:28.500 Oh, it's a pleasure.

00:31:29.360 Have a go, man.

00:31:31.880 All right. Mike Cernovich, of course, he broke the story. He cracked it wide open.

00:31:36.280 I will say, I'm much more interested in talking about the superstructure systems.

00:31:43.020 Let's just put it this way. A lot of people are going to say, I don't care for supernatural.

00:31:46.840 Okay, it's fine. You don't have to. I don't like the word supernatural,

00:31:50.460 because you're basically just saying something we haven't discovered yet.

00:31:53.620 If it exists, it exists. If it's reality, it's reality.

00:31:56.380 If there is a spectrum beyond what we can perceive, and there is, it's called the electromagnetic

00:32:00.560 spectrum. But if there's another one, why would we call it magic? Maybe you can influence things

00:32:06.080 with your mind. I have no idea. But the point is, if it exists, it exists, and we have not discovered

00:32:10.240 everything. But let's just say you're of modern sensibilities, and you're like, I don't believe in

00:32:14.160 aliens or whatever. It's like, okay, fine. Why would there not be powerful individuals who don't want

00:32:19.760 you to know who they are? I'll give you one final story. I was hanging out at the casino. Hey,

00:32:23.920 hey, I like to play poker. And I was talking with one of the VIP liaisons. They said a guy comes in,

00:32:31.780 he burns like $15 million a year gambling. He's got two young ladies. He gives them each $5 million to

00:32:41.580 lose. They don't make the money. They literally just spend 10 grand a hand, lose the money, and then

00:32:46.460 laugh and walk out. And I'm thinking to myself, who? Who is this guy? Like, who are these people

00:32:53.280 that have money like that, where they literally don't care to lose $25 million in one year gambling?

00:33:02.440 It's strange, isn't it? An old guy with that much money has a lot of influence and power in this

00:33:06.580 world, and you don't even know his name. Aren't there going to be people like that you've never

00:33:11.460 heard of with tremendous power? I'm not talking about cults or cabals or magic. I'm literally just

00:33:16.180 talking about rich people you've never heard of. Bezos wants you to know who he is. Who are the guys

00:33:22.080 out there that don't? No idea. But I'm going to wrap up there, my friends. Smash the like button.

00:33:27.140 Share the show with everyone you know. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. We're

00:33:31.720 going to gear up for that raid on Russell Brand, who is going live. I believe he should be live right

00:33:37.740 now. He usually is. Give a shout out to Russell Brand, who is live now, as well as Steven Crowder

00:33:43.040 in the Mug Club. I always want to just stress it every time I can. Guys, it is incredible that

00:33:49.280 through this Rumble morning lineup, this worldview that we live in has become the mainstream. There's

00:33:55.640 a lot of big news behind the scenes that I can't talk about, but I want you guys to really, I want

00:34:00.200 to stress, and I want you to understand this. The corporate press is capitulating. Barry Weiss's

00:34:05.640 the free press is apparently going around trying to get $250 million evaluation for a sale of

00:34:10.860 her outlet. Anti-woke. Now, the free press is certainly not, you know, hardcore MAGA, but

00:34:16.620 it defied the corporate press. I can tell you on our end, we've got organizations basically

00:34:23.120 telling us, corporate press, you've won. How can we do a deal? And we are laughing all the

00:34:28.980 way to the bank. This is it. This fake narrative machine that tried to play politics has failed.

00:34:34.360 Woke is broke. And the big companies are coming around and saying, what do we have to do? Now,

00:34:40.000 it's not everybody. CBS just put a billion, 1.5 billion in a South Park to insult Trump and

00:34:45.500 claim he's got a little wiener. How stupid. But there are big companies now realizing that 1.00

00:34:50.620 has lost. And people are clamoring for something reasonable. So we're winning. And I'm going to say

00:34:57.120 it's largely because a lot of you guys who watch, you share these videos, you watch the whole morning

00:35:03.240 lineup. We now dominate the top 10 news broadcasts in the world on Rumble, as well as generally the

00:35:10.900 top 10 of all live streams. We're in a down period for news because we're in an off cycle politically.

00:35:16.800 But still, the Rumble live streams are dominating the top live streams in the world. And big

00:35:22.120 interests, powerful interests are taking notice they've lost. And instead of saying we're going to

00:35:26.700 wither away and die, they're saying we want to catch your train before it leaves the station.

00:35:31.360 And you know what that means? It means we have the leverage. So thank you all so much for watching. 0.87

00:35:35.420 Stay tuned. More to come tonight, 8 p.m. Timcast IRL. And we'll see y'all then.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - July 24, 2025

Democrats Polling Hits ALL TIME LOW, MAGA CIVIL WAR Over Epstein ft. Mike Cernovich

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