The Culture War - Tim Pool - January 13, 2025


Democrats Spark OUTRAGE After Funneling Donations For Fire Relief Though Democrat PAC ActBlue


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In the wake of the devastating L.A. fires, many are turning to Democratic Party fundraising sites to raise money for relief efforts. But is there more to it than meets the eye? And is it even illegal?

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00:00:30.000 The L.A. wildfire is now expected to be the most expensive disaster in U.S. history.
00:00:44.460 With estimating totals of around $150 billion in damages already and rising, the disaster is far
00:00:51.380 from over. The Santa Ana winds are expected to pick up, spreading this fire further. And there is a
00:00:57.460 major political disaster, a lack of water, a lack of leadership, and no strong statements from
00:01:02.860 anybody in charge. We've seen arsonists. We've seen looters. The death toll is now at 24 and it's
00:01:09.720 expected to go up. Hundreds of thousands of people have been evacuated. We are truly looking at one of
00:01:15.120 the darkest periods in this country's history. I mean, maybe not the worst, but it's really,
00:01:19.560 really bad. Now, deep within this natural disaster is a political controversy, a brewing.
00:01:26.440 Many people are trying to raise money for disaster relief. But something interesting is happening.
00:01:33.220 Democrats are posting links not to the actual charities, but to political action committees.
00:01:39.300 Now, why would they do that? Well, as many people are suggesting, Democrats are attempting to campaign
00:01:46.620 off the disaster to skim money off the top and build a network so they can fundraise off of you later
00:01:52.760 and trick you into going to their political candidates campaign websites. In one story reported
00:01:59.500 by Fox News, Gavin Newsom defends fire response with fact check site linking to Democrat party
00:02:05.400 fundraising platform. A website intended to combat misinformation about the fires encourages users
00:02:10.080 to donate to those affected through Democratic fundraising giant Act Blue. From the New York Post,
00:02:15.600 Gavin Newsom sparks outrage for soliciting donations to L.A. wildfire victims via his super PAC.
00:02:23.640 And then we have this tweet from Elizabeth Warren. To help support the communities around L.A. being
00:02:28.560 devastated by wildfires, can you split a donation between the L.A. Fire Department Foundation
00:02:33.600 and United Way of Greater Los Angeles? What does it say underneath? Well, according to community notes,
00:02:41.320 this is not a link to a charity. It's a link to a Democrat fundraising platform. They take 3.95% of all
00:02:48.660 transactions. So what is actually going on here? Democrats are asking you to donate to political
00:02:54.620 action committees, not to the charities, but then they're saying the money's gonna go to the charity.
00:02:59.420 Ladies and gentlemen, this is a longstanding controversy around Act Blue, where Democrats skim
00:03:07.660 3.95% off the top of all donations before it makes its way to the actual charity. Act Blue largely runs
00:03:15.840 Democrat political campaigns, but it's also used for progressive causes. Now, while some accuse Act
00:03:22.220 Blue of wrongdoing, nothing that they're doing is actually illegal. It's brilliant campaign strategy,
00:03:28.940 information gathering and fundraising. And I'll say this right away. Most liberals donating don't care 0.72
00:03:35.780 that they're donating in this way. However, there are probably a lot of people who are not political
00:03:39.880 and don't realize what's actually going on. Now, my friends, we will deep dive into the world of
00:03:44.800 Act Blue, its controversies and what is going on with these posts by Newsom. And oh boy, wait till you
00:03:50.120 see what he's doing. But there is more to this story than meets the eye. You see, what if I were to tell
00:03:56.480 you that the grift goes much, much deeper, that there are, say, podcasts that will promote a
00:04:03.000 foundation and they'll say, guys, listen to my show. Donate to this cause. The cause, as it turns
00:04:10.260 out, is deeply connected, if not run by the same people on the podcast. And when you donate to that
00:04:15.440 cause, let's just call it charity number one. Charity number one's largest expenditure is
00:04:21.160 the podcast in question. Now, talk about something brilliant. And once again, of course,
00:04:28.400 not illegal, maybe unethical by some opinion, but I just say it's brilliant. It really is.
00:04:37.540 You might think it's dirty. You might think it's duplicitous and deceptive, but it's just a clever way
00:04:45.180 to build a network, a database, make money and fund your operation. Maybe a little smarmy,
00:04:51.160 but let's deep dive into what is going on right now. And then we'll get into the media stuff
00:04:55.660 from our good friends over at Wikipedia. They say act blue is an American democratic political
00:05:00.620 action committee and fundraising platform founded in 2004. Act blue is a major part of the democratic
00:05:05.880 party's fundraising infrastructure. It's focused on mobilizing small dollar donors. And as of June,
00:05:10.820 2024 had raised 13.7 billion for democratic candidates and causes since it was established. Act blue is
00:05:17.640 organized as a pack, but it serves as a conduit for processing individual contributions made to
00:05:22.600 the platform. Under federal law, these contributions are made by individuals and are not considered
00:05:27.340 political action committee donations. Okay. So, so right now, what's the controversy? I mean,
00:05:31.900 Gavin Newsom is fundraising for firefighters. I'm sure you're asking what's the big deal there?
00:05:36.640 Well, let me break it down for you from the New York post and a story titled Gavin Newsom
00:05:41.480 sparks outrage for soliciting donations to LA wildfire victims via his super PAC. It reads
00:05:47.680 California governor Gavin Newsom sparked fierce outrage Sunday for soliciting donations to victims
00:05:53.140 of the deadly Los Angeles wildfires via his super PAC, which pushed users to add their personal
00:05:57.680 information to a democratic fundraising site. Newsom 57 posted a link on acts to California firefax.com,
00:06:04.500 a website set up by his campaign committee in response to what he claimed was misinformation on
00:06:09.320 the wildfires. But the site urges users to give money to the California fire foundation and links
00:06:14.360 them to a module for act blue, the democratic party's fundraising platform. The act blue donation
00:06:20.080 box says the money is being raised by campaign for democracy. Newsom super PAC quote, your donation
00:06:26.220 will go directly towards supporting firefighters and the communities they serve, including direct
00:06:31.140 financial support to impacted residents. Site says the California fire foundation, which helps
00:06:35.520 firefighters, their families and victims allows users to donate directly without relying
00:06:39.320 on a service like act blue to make those transactions. Users who donate via Newsom's fundraising appeal
00:06:44.460 are also automatically signing up for text messages from his super PAC. If they provide their phone
00:06:49.560 numbers, we'll take a look at his website, California firefax.com. As you can see here, it says
00:06:56.760 California firefax. It's to be honest, a rather poorly designed website. And it talks about the lies
00:07:03.340 and the facts and everything that they're doing to help make everything better. They're saying that
00:07:09.060 many people on the right are pushing lies about what's actually going on during the fire and that
00:07:12.520 actually they're doing the best they can. Up top, you'll see a link that says donate to California
00:07:17.900 fire foundation. When you click it, you are brought to the campaign for democracy. Well, hold on a minute.
00:07:24.540 I thought we were donating to the California fire foundation, not campaign for democracy. What is
00:07:28.680 this? It says your donation will go directly towards supporting firefighters in the communities
00:07:34.300 they serve, including direct financial support to impacted residents. You can then give any amount
00:07:39.960 of money you want with some presets. Want to make it monthly? Count me in. Have an act blue account
00:07:45.240 sign in. Okay. Well down below it says charitable donations made through this form are received
00:07:51.920 and processed by act blue charities, a 501c3 tax exempt organization formed to democratize
00:07:57.440 charitable giving and are subject to act blues terms of service. We subsequently give your
00:08:03.020 contribution to the organization or cause that you've selected on the contribution form within 30 days.
00:08:09.280 Well, that's strange. And as we already saw from that other tweet from that community note,
00:08:14.900 act blue takes 3.95%. So what's the controversy? If you go to the California fire foundation
00:08:21.900 website, you can donate to them directly. You don't need to give 3.95% to act blue. To put it simply,
00:08:29.580 my friends, as a disaster is happening, as arsonists are starting fires, looters are targeting people's
00:08:35.940 homes. The government is struggling to maintain these things. Democrat politicians, rest assured,
00:08:43.180 have found a way to skim about 4% off the top of your donations into their machines pockets.
00:08:50.060 Now, here's what people have responded with to me when I've pointed this out. They say, Tim, come on.
00:08:56.180 At 3.95%, that's just credit card transaction fees, right? They're not really skimming anything off the top.
00:09:03.320 Let's pause and put a pin in that one. And I'll say, let's start here. How about I accept that argument?
00:09:09.220 We'll put it to the side. What are they doing? They're building a database, your email addresses,
00:09:14.280 your phone numbers. That's worth a ton of money. I mean, there was a meme and a gag going on during
00:09:19.480 the election cycle where people were getting spammed like crazy from these political ads,
00:09:25.760 these political text messages. I know I was getting them. I had to block all of them.
00:09:30.420 I'm still getting them. It's nuts. Well, your phone number is valuable. You're a person they can target
00:09:35.840 to make money off in the future. They know that you're a donor. They know your email. They know
00:09:41.240 your phone number. And they can put you in a category where your age, where you live.
00:09:47.160 They're building a database for political campaigns. But how about this? Let's grab that
00:09:53.740 3.95%, pull it back in, and I'll debunk that argument. It took me only two seconds to do a Google
00:10:00.200 search. NerdWallet says, credit card processing fees, what small businesses should know in 2024.
00:10:07.380 Quite simply, they say, processing fees are typically between 1.5 and 3.5%.
00:10:13.600 To put it simply, if someone purchases $100 worth of goods, between $1.50 and $3.50 are pulled to pay
00:10:21.440 for the credit card transaction itself. So if you're a small business, you don't get that money.
00:10:26.880 And that's what you'll notice. When you go to a lot of small businesses, they say they charge 3%
00:10:31.400 if you want to use a credit card, because they have to pay that extra to use the credit card. 0.97
00:10:36.420 Yeah, it kind of sucks. But hold on. ActBlue is 3.95%. That's a bit different than 3.5 on the high 0.94
00:10:43.320 end. Right. Because the reality is, they are skimming a little bit for themselves. Donald Trump
00:10:50.180 wanted to have the G7 meeting at Trump derail. This is during his first term. It's a long time ago.
00:10:56.080 And he got a lot of criticism from the left. And he got a little bit of criticism from the right.
00:11:01.120 I was actually very critical of Donald Trump's move to try and hold the G7 meeting at Trump derail,
00:11:05.900 his golf course in Florida, because it's a conflict of interest. On the left, they said,
00:11:11.800 Trump is trying to make money off government. That's sort of true, but not really. They attacked
00:11:16.600 him a little too hard. On the right, many people said Trump is offering a discount to the government.
00:11:22.800 It would be more expensive to hold this event somewhere else. Well, technically true.
00:11:26.880 Still, many on the right pointed out it's a conflict of interest. Here's the point that I made.
00:11:32.520 Donald Trump's derail location has fixed costs. They've got likely taxes. They've got utility bills,
00:11:41.620 staffing fees. They have to pay those no matter what. If Trump hosts the G7 at cost,
00:11:47.460 he's still covering some of his hard costs. Although he may not make profits, it's going to
00:11:53.440 pay for the utility bills. It's going to pay for the staffing that are there. And it's still a
00:11:58.520 conflict of interest. Basically, if he's got three days of vacancy at Trump derail, he's going to lose
00:12:05.080 money. If he brings in an event and has them charge and charges them costs, he's now even. You see,
00:12:13.080 it's still a conflict of interest. Ultimately, Trump said, well, OK, fine. We won't do this and
00:12:17.840 backed off. But now let's take a look at ActBlue and the issue at play. Even if it was only a tiny
00:12:25.900 bit to cover the infrastructure of the financial service that's being rendered, you know, ActBlue
00:12:31.360 has servers. They have employees. They got to pay their bills, right? Right. This means that the
00:12:37.220 platform that is typically used for Democrat politicians to win elections is having its
00:12:42.960 infrastructure paid for during disasters and at the expense of those who are trying to fund
00:12:50.040 disaster relief. If they take for four dollars off of every hundred you spend and you think
00:12:57.480 you're giving it to firefighters, but four dollars pays for the servers, the website and the staffing
00:13:04.280 of a Democrat political infrastructure machine. That, my friends, is the controversy and it is
00:13:11.940 skimming off the top. Now, let's dive a little bit deeper here into a recent controversy with some
00:13:17.960 allegations. Pod Save America, a very prominent lefty liberal podcast recently hosted Gavin Newsom
00:13:25.560 and Gavin Newsom basically said, look, they're lying. We are doing our best. Let's debunk the lies.
00:13:31.300 And this is where a lot of the controversy begins. But Pod Save America is in an interesting
00:13:37.760 position right now. Now, I want to pause real quick and just say this again. I have not seen
00:13:44.260 anything illegal, and I would argue that Democrats are huge fans of what it is these organizations do.
00:13:52.460 If you go to your average progressive and tell them, hey, when you donate to that firefighter relief
00:13:57.060 through Gavin Newsom's thing, Act Blue, Democrat political infrastructure gets 3.95 percent and it
00:14:03.520 helps them fund their infrastructure. Democrats, progressives, liberals are going to say, that's
00:14:07.860 actually really cool. I really like that. They will like that. So it's, is it really bad?
00:14:15.160 The issue at play for me on this is that, well, you should disclose this and they do. But I think most
00:14:22.300 people don't realize they're being routed through a second, through an intermediary, through a
00:14:26.560 middleman. And that means there's going to be a bunch of people who are not really politically
00:14:30.320 active, who are getting roped in to helping fund Democrat infrastructure. Like I said, Democrats
00:14:36.560 probably love it. Pod Save America put up this tweet, new episode dropping soon. John Favre sits down
00:14:43.980 with California Governor Gavin Newsom to discuss the catastrophic wildfires wreaking havoc in Los
00:14:48.120 Angeles. They tweeted, if you want to help those impacted by the California wildfires, please
00:14:52.640 donate at VoteSaveAmerica.com slash relief. Well, all right. So let's click the link and pull up Vote
00:14:58.520 Save America. And what do we have here? It says support VSAA and Crooked Ideas Disaster Relief Fund.
00:15:05.180 Donate now to directly support states impacted by natural disasters. Right now we're focusing on relief
00:15:10.040 efforts for those impacted by the wildfires in Southern California. It goes on to say that your donation
00:15:14.440 will be split between five different charities. They say Vote Save America Action and Crooked Ideas
00:15:19.220 have identified the above charities to ensure your donation has the highest impact. This fund may be
00:15:23.520 updated as more organizations are vetted. They say Crooked Ideas is a nonprofit from your hopeful but
00:15:28.060 anxious news-obsessed pals at Crooked Media. Our mission is to engage you around the biggest policy
00:15:32.660 debates shaping our world and help you understand that a better world is possible. But hold on there a
00:15:37.220 minute, my friends. Once again, we see right here that your charitable contribution is going to be made
00:15:42.820 through ActBlue in accordance with their policies and that your donation will be held or delivered
00:15:49.760 within 30 days. Some people are saying that they hold it for 30 days. It's saying within 30 days,
00:15:54.860 which means up to. But once again, you think you're donating directly to these charities,
00:15:59.760 but you're going through an intermediary. This does a couple things. I mean, looks really good on the
00:16:04.700 books of these nonprofits when they're like, we brought in $30 in revenue. We gave out $30 in revenue,
00:16:10.040 but it makes their revenue look better. Not that it does all that much, to be honest.
00:16:15.040 But if 4% then goes to ActBlue, once again, you watch Pod Save America, you think you're donating
00:16:21.380 directly to these causes. But in fact, a small portion of what you give goes to ActBlue, which
00:16:27.620 helps fund Democrat political campaign infrastructure. Okay, so then the question is,
00:16:32.640 what is Crooked Media, right? Well, many of you may actually know because they're rather popular,
00:16:37.360 but let's take a look at their website. Here we are, Crooked.com. And we've got several podcasts,
00:16:42.060 the latest episodes, Strict Scrutiny, What a Day, Offline with Jon Favreau. They've got Pod Save
00:16:48.420 America, Assembly Required with Stacey Abrams, Empire City, The Wilderness, What a Day, various
00:16:55.520 newsletters. Crooked Media is a Democrat progressive media company that produces some particularly
00:17:02.500 prominent podcasts. Notably, of course, is Pod Save America, where they posted this link to
00:17:07.920 Vote Save America. Well, all right, then. Vote Save America is fundraising. Pod Save America says,
00:17:15.220 donate to this relief effort. Click this link. It brings you to Vote Save America.
00:17:19.380 Well, what's Vote Save America? According to InfluenceWatch.org, Vote Save America is an online
00:17:25.180 voter guide operated by the left of center political media company, Crooked Media.
00:17:28.820 VSA's Adopt a State campaign steers activists who do not reside in battleground states to volunteer
00:17:34.660 in the effort to win elections in those states for left-leaning candidates in 2020. The website
00:17:38.940 provides training videos and other teaching tools to prepare activists. So let's jump over to
00:17:44.200 VoteSaveAmerica.com and see what they got working on right now. On their front page, we can see this.
00:17:49.700 Let's get ready to work. And you can make a difference now. I want to donate to support the
00:17:54.820 Anxiety Relief Program, or I'm interested in volunteering. Anxiety Relief, huh? What is that
00:18:01.280 all about? Well, I don't like anxiety. Let's click that button. It leads us right to act blue. Join
00:18:06.740 VSA's Anxiety Relief Program. It says, we started the Anxiety Relief Program to fund grassroots
00:18:12.660 organizations, campaigns, and voter protection efforts that are too often overlooked. In 2024,
00:18:17.460 because of our donors' generosity, Anxiety Relief Program raised $3.7 million. That funding
00:18:23.260 supported over 67 partner organizations in 14 states, 36 down-ballot candidates, 45 U.S. House
00:18:29.260 campaigns, and seven U.S. Senate campaigns. While the presidential campaign and its allied
00:18:33.900 organizations raised more than a billion dollars, the rising tide didn't lift all boats. And after
00:18:38.580 Trump's re-election, the stakes have never been higher. We need programs like the Anxiety Relief
00:18:42.620 Program to protect the progress we've made and fight harder than ever to support grassroots
00:18:46.740 organizations and elect leaders who will stand up for all of us at every level of government. Wow.
00:18:51.640 $3.7 million. And they say it supported over 67 partner organizations in 14 states and 36 down-ballot
00:19:01.640 candidates. Well, I wonder how much of that 3.7 went to those candidates. I mean, we can look,
00:19:08.640 you know, we can take a look. Well, here's what I can say right now. According to the page,
00:19:15.300 it says, your contribution will benefit Vote Save America. But it's an important thing to
00:19:19.860 understand. Most nonprofits are actually two nonprofits. That's why you'll see things like
00:19:27.260 Vote Save America. But then on the other page, it said Vote Save America action. They do this
00:19:33.820 because there's certain legal restrictions on what you can do with a 501c3 versus a 501c4.
00:19:39.960 Now, what's interesting to me is that they're saying that this is for Vote Save America.
00:19:46.760 There's also Vote Save America action. Well, one of them is going to be a 501c3 and one of them is
00:19:52.980 going to be a 501c4. Those numbers, kind of weird, right? That's the tax code designation for whether
00:19:59.920 they are a charitable entity, which is tax deductible, or a charitable organization that may
00:20:06.540 engage in some political activities. One of the issues for me is that when you click the link to
00:20:11.360 Vote Save America, it links you to Vote Save America action. Like, how do you tell the difference
00:20:16.420 between which one is the C3 and the C4? How do you know if what you're giving is tax deductible or it's
00:20:22.160 not tax deductible and it's going to be used towards a political cause? Okay, well, let's try this.
00:20:26.400 In a tweet from Jon Favreau, he says, in response to a guy who accused him of wrongdoing,
00:20:30.860 that Vote Save America action isn't even a political action committee. It's a non-profit.
00:20:36.420 All you have to do is click the link to see where the money goes. Josh Peterson responded wrong. All
00:20:41.840 you have to do is visit the bottom of their page to see they classify themselves as a political
00:20:45.880 action committee. Now, hold on. There's two organizations here and that's the confusion.
00:20:51.680 What Jon said is that Vote Save America action is a charity and Vote Save America is a political
00:20:56.380 action committee. Oh boy, this is where things get fun. So I decided to pop over to Vote Save
00:21:01.780 America PAC expenditures. They raised $3.7 million apparently and it was used for political causes,
00:21:08.000 implying it's a 501c4 political action committee, right? Well, looks like it is. Now, again, I don't
00:21:14.020 know that they're doing anything wrong. I just think it's interesting to point out. When you go to
00:21:17.980 opensecrets.org and you look at their expenditures, you can see that contributions make up 32.84%.
00:21:24.420 That's a lot of money. $2.2 million. Media makes up $2.2 million, 32%. Media? What does that mean?
00:21:33.740 Well, how about this? Let's just scroll down and see where this political action committee is giving
00:21:38.820 their money. Well, heavens to Betsy. From 2023 to 2024, the top recipient for Vote Save America PAC was,
00:21:47.400 in fact, Crooked Media, receiving $2.8 million. What? I just got questions. You know what I mean?
00:21:56.940 I just got questions about what's going on here, huh? I mean, it's brilliant. Don't get me wrong. And
00:22:00.900 again, I'm not saying they're doing anything wrong. There's probably a lot of context we're missing.
00:22:05.100 I think that's fair. I'd love to talk to these guys and break down how their money works, how their
00:22:09.380 donation works. Like, what is all of this? But it looks like they raised $3.7 million through their
00:22:17.340 anxiety relief program, which I don't know how it's allocated. But when they bring in what appears
00:22:22.300 to be around $8 million a year, the number may be off. I'm trying to be very nice here. I'm not. And
00:22:27.220 again, I didn't say anything wrong. But then $2.8 million goes to their own podcast. So hold on.
00:22:34.140 What did we discover? Votes of America is run by Crooked Media, according to Influence Watch.
00:22:40.400 Maybe that's not true. I don't know. So Crooked Media, Pod Save America promotes Votes of America.
00:22:47.160 People can donate to Votes of America. And when that money goes to the cause,
00:22:51.500 the cause is giving $2.8 million back to the podcast. A hot dog. That's just so brilliant.
00:22:57.940 I wish I thought of something like that. You know what I could do? Timcast could launch the,
00:23:03.020 I don't know, Save Kittens Worldwide. Donate to Save Kittens in memory of Mr. Bocas.
00:23:10.740 And then when you donate that $100, well, guys, we charge sponsorship fees. Save the Kittens
00:23:18.080 Worldwide is going to have to pay for that shout out I did. So that $100 you gave,
00:23:21.780 it's got to go to paid media right back in my pocket. Wouldn't that be something? I'm not saying
00:23:26.880 that's exactly what they're doing. I'm just saying, wow, now there's a racket, right?
00:23:30.480 I don't know exactly why they do what they do. I'm sure Votes of America could explain all of this
00:23:35.860 and give us a reason why they do it. And I will stress, progressives and Democrats probably love
00:23:40.640 that they do it. It's a means of propping up their media machine. It's well done. It's brilliant.
00:23:47.340 It's great organizing, not illegal. And again, progressives and Democrats like that they're
00:23:51.360 doing it. You as someone who's not on that political side may think it's wrong or untoward,
00:23:56.400 but they're probably in love with the idea. And it's brilliant to them. And I will stress it again.
00:24:01.520 I don't see them having done anything wrong. It's just surprising to us to discover this brilliant
00:24:07.000 machine where they cycle this money around, raise money, build political lists. It is masterfully
00:24:13.140 done. So therein lies the large controversy, my friends. When you are donating through one of these
00:24:19.480 politicians, they're routing you through ActBlue and therein lies the scandal. The machine,
00:24:25.720 oh boy, it's well oiled and it's functioning quite well. Now there's a lot more going on with ActBlue
00:24:32.780 that we didn't even get into, but I'm going to call it where I have to call it because this is
00:24:36.980 already going along. But let me just say, well, Republicans try with things like WinRed.
00:24:42.540 Certainly, you can criticize them for similar things if you're critical. Their infrastructure
00:24:47.920 is nowhere near as well-developed. But hey, that's the game, isn't it? To the victor go the spoils.
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