The Culture War - Tim Pool - DOJ May Drop NEW EPSTEIN FILES Despite Leaked Memo Sparking WILD Deep State CIVIL WAR Theories ft. Lara Logan

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00:00:27.060 From the Post to Millennial,

00:00:29.180 DOJ reports to court that it's still reviewing Epstein records for possible release,

00:00:35.100 Judicial Watch reveals.

00:00:36.600 Despite the fact that Donald Trump said,

00:00:39.460 why are you still talking about this?

00:00:40.740 Despite the fact the DOJ put on an unsigned, undated memo claiming there is no Epstein client list.

00:00:47.240 Apparently, there are still some records that may come out.

00:00:49.840 They say the DOJ is still reviewing the Epstein-related records for possible release.

00:00:55.140 The announcement comes just after a leaked internal memo from the DOJ and the FBI,

00:00:57.600 where they said there'll be no further public disclosures.

00:01:00.620 Something is going on.

00:01:03.420 If this is true, and Judicial Watch, I trust,

00:01:07.240 something is going on.

00:01:09.020 My friends, there is, if the, okay, again, if this is true, there is an effort still to release

00:01:17.040 information, but an unsigned memo gets released saying they won't.

00:01:21.540 It feels as though there are different factions within the DOJ and government that are conflicted

00:01:27.100 right now.

00:01:27.640 Could it be that Trump and his people, Pam and Cash and Dan, are actively trying to get these documents

00:01:35.660 released, but are still at war with a deep state that has some kind of control?

00:01:40.680 Could it be as simple as Trump's compromised?

00:01:43.540 The threat upon his life and his family has whipped him into shape, as with Dan Bongino and Cash.

00:01:47.600 Were they bribed?

00:01:48.480 I doubt it.

00:01:49.760 These guys are already well off.

00:01:51.220 So what is really going on?

00:01:53.980 Honestly, I'm not entirely sure.

00:01:56.080 But we are going to bring in famed journalist, Laura Logan, right now to talk to us about the issue.

00:02:02.140 So let's boot up the interview room, as I often do.

00:02:05.240 It takes about 10 seconds.

00:02:07.020 We are loading.

00:02:08.560 And here we go.

00:02:09.520 Laura, can you hear me?

00:02:10.980 Yes, I can hear you.

00:02:12.640 Thanks for joining me.

00:02:13.560 So there's a story right now that I was just reading.

00:02:20.640 Judicial Watch says that the DOJ is still reviewing some Epstein documents and may release them.

00:02:25.900 At the same time, Donald Trump seemed a bit taken aback that a reporter asked a question about it.

00:02:31.060 So there's this theory emerging on across many high profile individuals on X that Donald Trump

00:02:37.600 is being controlled by somebody or the DOJ is compromised.

00:02:41.000 I'm curious what you think about all this.

00:02:44.220 Well, you know, I'm a journalist.

00:02:46.460 I'm a journalist and I'm pretty old school.

00:02:48.660 So I'm always conscious of what I don't know.

00:02:52.060 And I don't really like to speculate.

00:02:55.340 But at the same time, obviously an issue here.

00:02:58.420 There's, you know, we're getting one story after another out of the Justice Department.

00:03:03.040 People are very upset about it.

00:03:04.680 There are a lot of victims that are very upset about it.

00:03:07.100 Trump was annoyed, obviously annoyed that he was asked about this.

00:03:11.380 And during a press conference where he was actually trying to speak about other things.

00:03:17.000 But, I mean, that's standard.

00:03:18.520 You have a story of a magnitude that people care about as much as they do.

00:03:23.100 It's not going to go away.

00:03:24.160 And the president should be prepared to take those kind of questions.

00:03:29.980 Right?

00:03:30.280 I mean, so while I understand his frustration because this is the consistent problem that he's had to deal with the media where they never want to cover what he's doing.

00:03:38.980 They always want to have about something.

00:03:41.460 In the past, it was Russian collusion, Ukraine impeachment, which were all made up stories.

00:03:46.460 Those were just, you know, information warfare operations designed to disturb, disrupt, and destroy his administration.

00:03:53.980 So, that sort of frustration is kind of understandable coming from the president.

00:03:59.440 But at the same time, this story is different.

00:04:02.640 You know, the Epstein story is not going away.

00:04:04.820 You don't have a guy who has a whole eye of it, traffics all these girls. 1.00

00:04:10.200 Basically, traffic is a nice word for rapes, right?

00:04:13.340 It has an organized system where girls are consistently raped and abused and expect that this is just going to go away. 0.90

00:04:22.560 It's not.

00:04:23.820 And the Department of Justice hasn't done very well.

00:04:27.280 I agree.

00:04:28.340 I'm curious.

00:04:29.940 What is causing it that Dan Bongino and Kash Patel, do these interviews, or Pam Bondi comes out?

00:04:36.920 And it seems like what they're saying just isn't true.

00:04:41.840 It's also, they're not even presenting it in a way that seems authentic.

00:04:47.680 Yeah.

00:04:48.320 She's not convincing, right?

00:04:49.960 Right.

00:04:50.180 Yeah, when you listen to Pam Bondi, she's really not convincing on this.

00:04:54.680 I don't know.

00:04:55.540 I mean, the truth is we don't know, right?

00:04:57.380 I mean, if anyone is honest, we really have no idea what's going on.

00:05:02.100 All we do know is that it doesn't make sense.

00:05:05.100 Something doesn't add up yet.

00:05:07.200 And this is the part that's kind of tough for me.

00:05:10.100 I know Kash Patel to be a good person.

00:05:12.860 I agree.

00:05:13.180 And one with moral courage who cares about this kind of issue.

00:05:17.840 So it doesn't make sense that Kash Patel would just put problems.

00:05:22.020 I know Dan Bongino personally, and he's not a guy who lacks moral courage either.

00:05:28.640 And he was very open on this from the beginning.

00:05:31.180 So, you know, it's odd that they would take such a dramatically different position from everything they said before.

00:05:39.720 And you've got to wonder, okay, what is the information that you have?

00:05:43.060 And it seems to me that the only way to resolve this is to let the public have the information they're looking at.

00:05:49.940 Where the people are tired of being told, you know, the file is on my desk, or we've given the information to Congress, or if you could see what I can see, you would know that Epstein killed himself.

00:06:02.260 That's just not going to cut it.

00:06:04.060 And I do always try to think to myself, okay, what is the play here?

00:06:10.060 Is there something else at work?

00:06:12.280 Is there, you know, are there other moves being made that we're not aware of?

00:06:16.940 What else happens at the same time?

00:06:18.940 So one of the key things is that you have a conspiracy investigation into John Brennan, right?

00:06:25.800 And they put it, they're investigating him lying to Congress.

00:06:29.300 But what is he lying to Congress about?

00:06:31.580 I mean, he's lying about his role in a seditious conspiracy to overthrow a legally elected president of the United States, to subvert the will of the people, to be part of what would be the largest coup in the history of this country.

00:06:45.900 I mean, that is a massive investigation.

00:06:50.480 And that's really the most important thing that's happened right now.

00:06:53.560 Not to say that Epstein is not important.

00:06:56.220 Not to say that the victims do not matter, because they absolutely do matter.

00:07:00.600 And not only that, what does Epstein really represent?

00:07:03.500 Something much bigger, right?

00:07:05.240 Because you're talking about a system of extortion and corruption that drives policy and governments and decisions all across the world.

00:07:15.000 So, yes, on the one hand, it's about the victims.

00:07:18.740 It's about the children, which for me, you know, I'm a mom and I'm a big mama bear.

00:07:23.260 So it's close to my heart.

00:07:24.500 But at the same time, it's really about what markets, what moves nations, who decides who gets into power, who doesn't get in power.

00:07:35.060 I mean, this is about a system of corruption that where children are traded and sexually abused and violated and tortured, sometimes killed.

00:07:46.100 And that is something that we have to deal with as a nation.

00:07:50.300 And Epstein is a window into that.

00:07:52.500 And people are not going to stop until they get all the answers.

00:07:55.800 Yeah.

00:07:56.220 So, you know, when Trump was, you know, exasperated saying you're still talking about this, part of me says it is kind of brutal if you've got, you know, 100 plus deaths in this mass flooding.

00:08:06.460 There's flooding now in Georgia and North Carolina and New Mexico.

00:08:10.180 We even here, we had a flood watch last night here in West Virginia, which is shocking because we're kind of elevated.

00:08:14.880 And then it's like, here we go.

00:08:17.140 Let's talk about something else.

00:08:18.160 So I can imagine Trump being upset, but I don't think they're handling it well.

00:08:22.500 And so it's, it's, it's, I can't imagine all of them as being incompetent enough to not understand the way they've presented this casts doubt on their credibility.

00:08:33.100 You know what I see in all of it?

00:08:35.800 They look uncomfortable.

00:08:37.620 Yeah.

00:08:38.280 And that is very interesting to me because, you know, I, one of the big things that I do in my work is I try to look at my mind.

00:08:44.880 What is motivating this position or this statement or this act?

00:08:50.100 Because motivation is a key indicator for whether or not trust someone, right?

00:08:54.300 Like I was going to sort of, you know, I was going to embed Taliban or other, or interview a, you know, suicide bomber recruiter, child recruiter. 0.59

00:09:03.540 When I looked at these people, I had to make decisions about whether or not I survived that encounter.

00:09:09.720 So what was the motivation?

00:09:11.140 Why would the, the chief in charge of recruiting child suicide bomber for a terrorist organization want to sit down with me?

00:09:18.400 Does he gain more from the interview or does he gain more from, you know, from blowing us all up, leaving behind a suitcase bomb, right?

00:09:26.140 So, so motivation has always been a really important indicator for me, both in life and death and in the truth and, and lying.

00:09:35.480 And so when I look at the motivation, you know, what is, what is motivating these statements by Dan, you know, Cash Patel and Pam Bondi?

00:09:43.480 Do any of them have a vested interest in lying about this or in shipping?

00:09:49.560 One of the biggest statements that stood out from Pam Bondi is that they don't have any information on whether Jeffrey Epstein was working, you know, for basically the CIA or Mossad or all of the above.

00:10:00.700 And that was the one that, that was the most troubling because it's just not believable.

00:10:05.860 Then again, there's been massive reporting, right, that they seized blackmail tapes from Epstein's apartment and, and other places that were searched.

00:10:17.040 And so to say that this is all child porn and no one's ever seen it, well, that's also not very credible.

00:10:22.300 That's, that's troubling.

00:10:23.480 And she looked like she wasn't comfortable with the answers that she was giving, which is to me an indication that she's either asked to say this for some reason.

00:10:34.000 Or, you know, she's being directed to say it.

00:10:38.180 I mean, we just don't know the truth.

00:10:40.020 That's the problem.

00:10:41.020 Because I don't understand why they don't just lie.

00:10:42.760 I mean, they, they, they, they could just lie.

00:10:45.440 It feels like they're lying now, to be honest.

00:10:47.460 But why not come out and, why not, why not come out and say something like, we, you know, Dan, Dan Bongino could come out or Cash and say, we got in.

00:10:55.940 We're looking at the documents.

00:10:57.800 Boys, this is, this is wild stuff.

00:10:59.980 We are going to have to launch an investigation, a criminal prosecution, and it may take time.

00:11:05.460 So, unfortunately, we're not going to let the bad guys get away with it.

00:11:08.460 So, we'll keep working on it.

00:11:09.820 And then just back shelf it.

00:11:12.260 Like, they can just say, oh, it's, it's, it's such intense and horrifying information.

00:11:17.020 We're going to have to keep investigating.

00:11:18.800 And then you just get nothing from it.

00:11:20.020 People forget.

00:11:20.740 To come out with this memo being like, nah, nothing happened.

00:11:23.380 Nothing to see here.

00:11:24.360 With no name on it, no date.

00:11:25.820 It, I don't understand what they wanted to have happen.

00:11:30.420 Well, it thinks.

00:11:32.040 That's the problem.

00:11:33.300 A memo that comes out with no name and no date and doesn't come out on the Department of Justice's official website.

00:11:39.140 It doesn't come out from Pam Bonney, from the Attorney General, or anyone.

00:11:42.880 It just, it, it stinks.

00:11:44.740 And, you know, and, and what I've learned, too, is that absence of normal is abnormal.

00:11:49.800 Right?

00:11:50.060 So, that, I mean, one plus one always equals two.

00:11:52.560 And right now it's not acting out.

00:11:54.040 So, there's something else at play here.

00:11:56.660 You have to say, maybe it's because, maybe it's a personality of mine.

00:12:01.500 But I do have faith in people.

00:12:04.180 I just, maybe because I know Dan Bonino personally.

00:12:08.000 I mean, maybe because I look at his past statements and conduct.

00:12:10.820 In fact, I don't find inconsistencies in his previous conduct statements.

00:12:15.260 I don't find inconsistencies when it comes to the president, the Jeffrey Epstein issue.

00:12:20.440 You know, they like to say that Trump was on the island, that Trump was in the logs, and they drag out that one picture of Trump with Epstein.

00:12:27.180 And they like to imply.

00:12:28.900 But they leave out the fact that Trump fell out with Epstein.

00:12:31.860 He PNG'd him from Mar-a-Lago.

00:12:33.740 He obviously fell out with him, and he's had a child trafficking task force that he set up in the first administration.

00:12:41.960 And he has always shown that this is a big issue for him.

00:12:46.080 When it comes to crimes against children, President Trump has been at the forefront of that.

00:12:52.420 And so, this is odd.

00:12:54.560 It just doesn't really make any sense.

00:12:56.360 You know what scares me the most is that I trust and respect Dan Bonino and Cash tremendously.

00:13:04.540 Having had Cash on the show several times, and we've had Dan on, Dan and I, not only do I know him, but we have many mutual friends.

00:13:11.780 And he's always been one of the most stand-up and honorable, noble guys.

00:13:15.940 So, when I see this, I think it's hard to believe that it's all true.

00:13:22.600 Epstein just killed himself.

00:13:23.620 There's no client list.

00:13:24.360 But if that's not the case, and Dan is lying, it is terrifying to think about what would make Dan Bonino lie if he is.

00:13:33.660 What could do that?

00:13:35.880 Well, you know, this is a COVID war.

00:13:39.780 This is a clandestine war.

00:13:41.680 This is not a war that—I mean, we are ready right now in a full-blown war.

00:13:46.000 We are in the joining of fifth-generation warfare, which is information warfare, where information is the entire battle, right, which is really a battle for your mind.

00:13:56.600 And we are in the midst of the beginning of sixth-generation warfare, which is the battle for your soul.

00:14:03.640 And when it comes down to crimes against children and trading in children for business deals and government deals and power deals, whatever it happens to be, you are written about for the soul of every human being, right?

00:14:17.100 Because if you know this is happening and you turn a blind eye or you enable it and so on, then your soul is compromised.

00:14:25.360 I mean, you're not doing what we are built to do.

00:14:29.900 Every single one of us has a responsibility as a decent human being to fight for and protect children.

00:14:35.900 And not just our own children, but everyone's children.

00:14:38.620 I'm not going to walk past somebody abusing their kids.

00:14:41.360 I'm not going to walk past a child that's in need.

00:14:43.900 I'm never going to do that.

00:14:45.360 I can't do that.

00:14:46.720 So it's outside of my conscience.

00:14:49.860 So when you see this kind of thing happening, I go back again to what is the task in front of Donald Trump right now.

00:14:58.920 As the president of the United States of America, he has the task of resetting the entire global system.

00:15:05.980 There's not an agency under him that is not infiltrated with deep state operatives.

00:15:11.360 He's being undermined from both sides of the aisle.

00:15:14.280 The establishment in the party, the Senate is slow-rolling his confirmations.

00:15:18.140 And, you know, he doesn't even have his own people in positions of real significance that matter across the federal government.

00:15:27.100 I mean, who knows what he's being told on a daily basis?

00:15:30.300 Because I hear over and over and over again that people are struggling to get access to him.

00:15:35.060 As usual, they try to side with the president in these situations.

00:15:38.560 You don't know if he's being lied to.

00:15:40.160 You don't know what he's being told, what he's not being told.

00:15:42.580 But so I just revert back to, you know, here's a guy who has been consistent on almost every single issue.

00:15:51.000 And people might say, well, he changed his mind on this, he changed his mind on that.

00:15:54.000 Yes, that in itself is a consistent feature of Trump.

00:15:57.140 If he learned something new and he said, well, you know, I didn't know about this, or now that we know this, now this is our position.

00:16:03.620 That has been him all along.

00:16:06.120 So it is, we don't yet have the tools to understand exactly what is going on here, but it is worth considering what else they're doing.

00:16:16.600 One person, well, actually several people online were pointing out, it's disconcerting how many of Trump's enemies are latching onto this story against him.

00:16:27.500 And what does it mean when you find yourself in political alignment with people you know to be amoral or seeking the destruction of your country?

00:16:36.900 It doesn't mean they're always wrong, but I guess I wonder, you know, Cash and Dan are as good as it gets in the FBI.

00:16:45.040 I mean, going after Comey, and Cash Patel said publicly that Comey's responsible for the largest criminal conspiracy against the United States.

00:16:52.480 I mean, that's bold.

00:16:53.740 That's a bold statement.

00:16:55.120 And we want to see all of this good come out of it.

00:16:57.640 The Epstein thing is worrying because of how important it is and how Trump said he'd release it.

00:17:03.520 And how he ordered these things released, and now all of a sudden we're getting this 180.

00:17:07.520 I guess the challenge for me is I don't want to sacrifice what Bongino and Cash can, are, and will do over one issue.

00:17:17.080 But Epstein is like the issue.

00:17:20.380 It is massive.

00:17:22.020 It's hard to reconcile.

00:17:23.820 I think that's a smart position, though, when you say that you don't want to, you know, basically obliterate everything else.

00:17:30.480 Because, you know, you're right.

00:17:32.580 There is common ground now.

00:17:34.680 There's sort of odd bedfellows, right, that you've got people on the right and people in Trump's base, and now there's a line with people on the left.

00:17:42.200 But that in itself is a very interesting issue because I never want to play into the hands of my enemies, right?

00:17:49.700 So I'm always conscious of that.

00:17:51.960 But I have my own principles and standards, and I'm not going to just toss it out of the window.

00:17:56.400 So where does that leave me?

00:17:58.760 Well, if I look at this from another angle, would all these calls from the Democrats now for the truth to come out, give them the cover that they need to release certain things?

00:18:10.940 I mean, that's a possibility.

00:18:12.500 Now, two years from now, that's not going to be a very credible possibility.

00:18:16.880 But there is a short window of time where that is worth considering.

00:18:21.280 And then going to what you said about, you know, Comey being part of the largest conspiracy against the United States, this is true.

00:18:27.860 And this is not that it's bigger than anything, because nothing is really bigger than the fact that children are traded for power, money, and business, and all these other things, right?

00:18:41.320 So nothing is bigger than that ethically and morally.

00:18:45.200 But in terms of those who have the task of dismantling all of this, that's pretty overwhelming in many respects.

00:18:53.280 That doesn't mean I'm giving anybody a free pass, because if they don't dismantle this system, if they don't hold people accountable, you literally just, you know, slit someone's jugular, i.e., the United States, and you put a Band-Aid on it for four years of Trump, and we're still going to bleed out.

00:19:10.420 I mean, it's the end of freedom, the end of sovereignty.

00:19:13.740 It's the end of all these things that we hold dear.

00:19:16.320 So you can't give people a free pass, but at the same time, I'm not one of those people that's just ready to throw myself on the bandwagon and start, you know, basically dumping all over people when I lack significant amounts of information, and I can recognize the task in front of them is enormous.

00:19:35.120 The fear, I guess, is that there is something controlling things, a superstructure, as some have called it, that there is something, someone, or an organization more powerful than the U.S. government that has Cash and Dan and Trump even being like, okay, we can't cross this line.

00:19:54.180 I also wonder if it's actually that with Donald Trump getting access to this information with Pam Bondi, Dan and Cash, maybe they look at the list of information and the evidence, which we don't know exactly what it says, and then Trump concludes, if we actually were to expose this, it would damage the United States.

00:20:13.140 There would be collateral damage that would affect us, and we don't want that to happen.

00:20:17.200 I don't know, honestly, and the challenge is, it's hard to be forgiving in any capacity on this story.

00:20:25.260 Like, we don't believe you, and we want answers.

00:20:27.460 At the same time, what if there is a couple scenarios?

00:20:29.840 One is, the release of this information will implicate prominent U.S. politicians, world leaders, allies, and corporations in a way that creates collateral damage to the U.S. government and economy, especially internationally, or could lead to conflict.

00:20:44.700 Like, if this really is what I think it is, and say there's like a Saudi prince on this list, trafficking and doing horrible things. 0.86

00:20:51.000 You mean every Saudi prince?

00:20:52.880 Yeah, sure, every single one.

00:20:54.760 And then Trump is like, they are going to break the petrodollar and flood the international market with oil and destroy our economy if we release this.

00:21:04.180 Should Trump still release it then?

00:21:05.920 I mean, my attitude is yes, still.

00:21:07.360 But is that a potentiality that maybe Trump is weighing the political pros and cons and like, he doesn't want to do it?

00:21:15.620 I don't know.

00:21:15.980 Well, when you have a system like this, right, which affects people in every country, you have the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world that have long used this system of trading children and corruption in order to blackmail people into doing what it is they want, to move markets, to move governments, and to move policy, and so on.

00:21:40.600 So it is inevitable that the impact of this has the potential, right, to do all of the things that you're saying.

00:21:47.780 So one theory is that it will cause a collapse in the markets, and that Trump doesn't want to risk that to the markets.

00:21:55.700 Now, maybe it's not just because he wants to be, you know, the guy with the great economy.

00:22:00.100 Maybe it's because at the same time they're working on these other things.

00:22:03.940 And if you collapse the economy in this moment, it's going to have catastrophic consequences.

00:22:08.360 We're not equipped to really evaluate whether those trades are worth it.

00:22:13.480 I mean, you say nothing is worth it, but we don't really know.

00:22:16.840 What you're talking about is second and third order effects.

00:22:20.680 That's the way they talk about it in information warfare and in the military is that when you do one thing, you trigger something else, right?

00:22:28.220 So without knowing exactly what it is they're sitting on and what those second or third order effects would be, we're not in a strong position to judge.

00:22:37.700 So that's one thing.

00:22:39.000 The other part of it is that, you know, the president himself and his team obviously are having a difficult time communicating about this and coming up with a real strategy.

00:22:51.640 And that points to maybe the difficulty of the issue, but also maybe to do with some things internally.

00:22:59.620 You have to start questions about, you know, what it is that the president is being told, how it's being handled internally.

00:23:08.180 That's a fair question because they look so uncomfortable.

00:23:11.820 In a way, that's kind of reassuring because they're not very good buyers if that's the case, right?

00:23:17.600 Like they, and on this issue particularly, they don't appear to be pulling at all.

00:23:22.560 And then I would say that, you know, one of the last things is geopolitically, I can tell you that I have worked on trafficking issues where there are camps in third world countries that are run by Islamic terrorist groups, 0.66

00:23:39.340 that are supplied by cartels from Venezuela and Mexico, where there are pipelines of children that go straight to the Saudi royal family, you know, and people in power all over the world.

00:23:55.040 So when you say this can have dramatic consequences, that's not far-fetched to me.

00:24:02.740 That's very realistic because when you understand this world of trafficking and if you look at the pornography industry, right, I mean, if you follow the money from the porn industry,

00:24:12.820 it's kind of a roadmap to that Jeffrey Epstein network, and this is a very serious place to start looking for how this ties into business, into industry, into global organizations,

00:24:25.740 you know, the World Health Organization, the United Nations, I mean, governments across the world.

00:24:30.680 There is probably no more significant currency than children when it comes to this.

00:24:38.080 And so I think that you're onto something there.

00:24:40.340 Man, it's kind of scary to realize that the international power structures are predicated upon the exploitation and abuse and rape of children and torture.

00:24:50.080 Correct.

00:24:50.780 And the people want the truth and they want it exposed, but it seems like no matter who's in power, for one reason or another, they feel some reason not to expose it.

00:25:04.340 Well, look, this will blow your mind.

00:25:05.920 Okay, when you look at Iran, for example, why does the Ayatollah Khomeini take the position that he does?

00:25:11.460 Is it because he's all powerful?

00:25:13.220 No, it's because the IRGC, the Iranian Revolutionary God Corps, is one of the most prolific criminal organizations in the world, and the Ayatollah works for him, for them, right? 0.86

00:25:25.220 It's not, we think it's the other way around.

00:25:27.420 We think the IRGC served the Ayatollah.

00:25:30.040 Do you think one old man in Iran has a lot of power? 1.00

00:25:33.260 No, he doesn't.

00:25:34.180 The people who have the real power are the ones who are trading in kids, they're trading in weapons, they're trading in drugs.

00:25:40.800 They have the relationships with the cartels in Mexico.

00:25:44.880 Cartel del Sol in Venezuela has over $3 trillion in liquid assets.

00:25:50.280 Wow.

00:25:50.580 So, $3 trillion at their disposal to do whatever the hell they want.

00:25:57.060 You know what I mean?

00:25:58.040 Yeah.

00:25:58.600 Where is the real power? 0.98

00:26:00.340 The most important thing you said is that our world functions on the rape of children.

00:26:06.520 And that's the system that is being dismantled.

00:26:09.520 So, do you think that trust the plan, you know, what Trump is doing is the right path, even if we're not getting the Epstein stuff, we should just say, I wish it was perfect, it's not, but Cash, Dan, Pam, and Trump are doing good?

00:26:24.740 No, I think, well, for me, I never tell people what they should do and how they think and how they should feel, right?

00:26:30.900 Everybody's got to make their own decisions.

00:26:33.100 I am the kind of person, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt to a degree because I know that there was seditious conspiracy and, you know, U.S. law, right?

00:26:45.300 I believe it's chapter 115, treason and sedition.

00:26:50.220 And I know that those people who were responsible for that were responsible for Ukraine impeachment, for, you know, denying him to buy a laptop.

00:26:59.300 They're going, the same people are right now walking free, able to continue to subvert the Trump administration and the will of the American people.

00:27:08.680 Yep.

00:27:09.120 And I know that if they do not deal with that, everything is lost.

00:27:13.120 That that is a conspiracy that has global ties, that we know that from the five ice countries like the U.K. that was heavily involved in this conspiracy, that I know you have to dismantle that.

00:27:25.100 And you know what happens when you remove Pam Bondi?

00:27:27.520 You paralyze everything.

00:27:28.980 Yeah.

00:27:29.300 Nothing moves forward.

00:27:30.640 And then you have to get a replacement.

00:27:32.320 And then they have to get right on.

00:27:33.980 And the same thing with Cash Patel, the same thing with Dan Bongino, the same thing with Pete Hegseth.

00:27:38.320 So for me, for me, there is a much bigger game going on here.

00:27:42.620 There's a lot we don't know.

00:27:44.140 I'm not saying trust the plan.

00:27:46.280 I'm saying keep the pressure on.

00:27:48.260 Absolutely keep the pressure on.

00:27:49.700 Because the only thing that seems to remove the Supreme Court is public pressure.

00:27:53.580 The only thing that's going to overcome activist judges that are trying to rule from the bench is public pressure.

00:28:00.100 The only thing that is really going to give this administration, that's going to give Trump the cover to do what he needs to do is public pressure.

00:28:08.320 So I say stand up taller, speak louder, and do not surrender under any circumstances.

00:28:17.340 I'm still somewhat optimistic.

00:28:19.540 I mean, you know, I asked Grok, what's the biggest trending story?

00:28:24.220 And it said the Epstein stuff.

00:28:25.240 Even today, like people are not going to walk away from it.

00:28:27.780 But you mentioned the importance of going after this conspiracy.

00:28:30.900 There's also additionally in the United States the issue of illegal immigration and the efforts that Trump is taking.

00:28:36.580 So when I look at all of this, I am frustrated over the Epstein stuff.

00:28:41.360 But I also recognize if Trump loses this fight right now, then it's 100 percent completely lost.

00:28:49.640 And we're between a rock and a hard place.

00:28:51.380 Trump is the best we're going to get.

00:28:52.580 Cash and Dan are the best we're going to get.

00:28:54.080 And maybe we'll have to keep fighting and putting the pressure on to get, you know, the truth.

00:28:57.380 But for the time being, I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and lose on the immigration battle and the conspiracy charges and, you know, the people that are seeking to subvert this country.

00:29:07.240 Remember, the immigration battle is part of the same seditious conspiracy, right? 0.65

00:29:12.240 They took human beings and they turned them into weapon systems. 0.59

00:29:16.060 And then they used them as cover to infiltrate this country with, you know, for example, more than 300,000 trained members of the People's Liberation Army with special intelligence units, with special operations units, IRC units, with weapons, with terrorists, with hackers, with every bad actor that you can think of.

00:29:36.120 Not to mention hundreds of thousands of children were trafficked across that border.

00:29:42.480 And you put, you know, untold amounts of money in the hands of the worst people on earth with that open border, which was all in service of a globalist agenda to rule the, you know, without sovereignty and without sovereign nations.

00:29:58.340 So, yeah, you're 100 percent correct.

00:30:00.920 There are very significant issues and they're all tied together.

00:30:04.440 Yeah.

00:30:04.920 So, you can't give up on any of those things.

00:30:07.880 You just have to keep pushing.

00:30:10.300 Right on.

00:30:11.080 Well, Laura, I really do appreciate you coming to hang out and share your insights.

00:30:14.340 Where can people find you?

00:30:16.400 They can find me on x.lauramogan.com.

00:30:19.000 I'm on Substack and Rumble and YouTube and TikTok until I get kicked off.

00:30:24.060 You know, you never know how long you're on there, right?

00:30:26.540 You're at the university.

00:30:28.360 Yep.

00:30:28.820 Well, thanks for joining me.

00:30:30.820 We'll definitely bring you on next time if something comes up, but we appreciate it.

00:30:34.920 Thank you, Tim.

00:30:35.820 Take care.

00:30:36.460 Take care.

00:30:38.280 And that, of course, was the intrepid Laura Logan.

00:30:42.080 Good insights.

00:30:44.140 A challenge.

00:30:45.420 I don't have a good answer.

00:30:46.720 Man, I'm pissed on the Epstein stuff.

00:30:48.560 I want Trump to win on the immigration stuff, the criminals, the abuse, all of that stuff.

00:30:57.540 I want him to win on the Comey, the Russiagate stuff.

00:31:01.040 The Epstein stuff pisses me off.

00:31:03.240 But what do you do?

00:31:04.100 What do you do?

00:31:04.880 I don't think there's a bigger story than Epstein.

00:31:06.800 His connections.

00:31:07.520 Who is he working with?

00:31:08.160 How is it going on?

00:31:09.140 The structures behind the scenes.

00:31:11.400 If.

00:31:12.820 If.

00:31:13.600 I just don't.

00:31:14.340 I just don't understand.

00:31:15.680 I feel like they've did a piss poor job of dealing with the PR on this issue.

00:31:21.020 If it really was that there's something behind the scenes and they have to keep this under

00:31:25.040 reps for now.

00:31:26.280 Dan should have come out.

00:31:27.700 Cash should have come out.

00:31:28.400 Pam or Trump. 0.99

00:31:29.500 Trump could come out and say this Epstein guy was a sicko. 1.00

00:31:32.780 And the things we're learning are disgusting. 0.99

00:31:36.820 We've got to do it right.

00:31:38.460 And that means we can't just within a few months say we're going to release all this information.

00:31:44.820 Because we're still investigating.

00:31:47.200 And we have to win.

00:31:49.140 And that requires strategy.

00:31:51.280 And it requires confidentiality.

00:31:53.880 And that's why you're going to have to be patient as we do what you have sent us here to do.

00:31:59.400 Say that.

00:32:00.200 And I'd say all right.

00:32:03.220 But to come out with this memo.

00:32:04.540 Nothing to see here boys.

00:32:05.640 I'm like okay nobody believes you.

00:32:07.840 It's just weird.

00:32:08.700 I don't get what they're trying to accomplish.

00:32:12.520 But anyway.

00:32:14.000 Thank you to Laura Logan for hanging out.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - July 10, 2025

DOJ May Drop NEW EPSTEIN FILES Despite Leaked Memo Sparking WILD Deep State CIVIL WAR Theories ft. Lara Logan

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