The Culture War - Tim Pool - July 01, 2025


DOJ Revokes Rapper Over Anti-Israel Chant, England CRUSHED BY Mass Migration ft. Carl Benjamin


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Bob Vane and his group Free Free Palestine were banned from performing in the U.S. after leading the crowd in anti-Israel chants at Glastonbury Festival. The White House is investigating whether or not the chants were hate speech.

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00:00:00.000 He is explicitly saying that to the right wingers who feel that they have the jurisdiction of the country. He is saying that to the Tommy Robinson fans. He is saying that to the football fans. He is saying that to people like me. He is saying that to people who view themselves not just as an atomic citizen of anywhere. He's saying that to the people who feel that they are English and they belong to England.
00:00:23.560 He's saying, no, I've taken your country, whatever he thinks he represents, and you're never getting this back.
00:00:29.980 We've got this from NBC News.
00:00:33.360 State Department bans visas for English punk duo Bob Villan after Glastonbury performance.
00:00:40.680 Bob Villan led the crowds of Free Free Palestine and Death to the IDF at the English Music Festival.
00:00:45.940 The State Department banned an English rap punk duo from performing in the U.S. if they appeared to lead a crowd in chants of supporting besieged Gaza residents and wishing death upon Israeli forces.
00:00:56.100 Visas for Bob Villan and his group of the same name were revoked in light of their hateful tirade at Glastonbury, including leading the crowd in death chants.
00:01:05.220 The rapper led Glastonbury Festival crowd chants.
00:01:07.180 We know this edit.
00:01:07.660 He also said from the river to the sea, he could be seen saying on video shared across social media.
00:01:13.980 He said Palestine must be free, will be, inshallah, will be free.
00:01:17.800 Now, the funny thing about from the river to the sea is most of these activists don't know from which river to which sea.
00:01:21.880 But anyway, it refers to the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.
00:01:26.640 And the phrase basically means Israel will cease to exist.
00:01:31.080 That's the light way of describing it.
00:01:32.780 Of course, as we know, if that is the case, lots of people will die.
00:01:35.200 Some pro-Palestinian activists say it's a call for peace in the region.
00:01:39.960 Others argue that those words qualify as hate speech.
00:01:43.180 A Somerset police detective has been assigned to determine if any crime, hate crime statutes were broken during the performance.
00:01:48.820 Now, additionally, this man was chanting on stage, you're never getting your country back.
00:01:55.440 You want your country back?
00:01:56.320 It's not going to happen.
00:01:57.480 And he was saying that to the British people.
00:02:00.600 This is a threat faced by the West. 0.75
00:02:02.760 And interestingly, we have similar issues here that the British are having there.
00:02:07.340 So I'm going to be pulling in our good friend Carl Benjamin right now.
00:02:11.900 Let me grab the link and we load it up.
00:02:16.260 Usually takes about 10 seconds.
00:02:17.380 You guys know this.
00:02:17.960 We load it up.
00:02:20.160 Getting it going.
00:02:23.200 And it is loading.
00:02:24.340 I believe we now have Carl Benjamin.
00:02:28.320 Can you hear me?
00:02:29.100 Hello.
00:02:29.900 I can.
00:02:30.940 How's it going, man?
00:02:31.700 Thanks for joining.
00:02:33.900 I'm great, man.
00:02:35.740 Gorgeous sunny weather in England at the moment and everyone's complaining about it.
00:02:38.900 But I'm actually really enjoying it.
00:02:40.400 Right on.
00:02:41.400 It's hot here.
00:02:42.580 It's hot.
00:02:43.200 It's like 90-something.
00:02:44.920 Well, but we're a big place.
00:02:46.280 We're in West Virginia.
00:02:47.200 So, Mr. Benjamin, I couldn't help but notice, well, we've noticed this for a long time.
00:02:52.060 The U.K. has been dealing with a lot of similar immigration issues that the U.S. has.
00:02:55.920 I think you guys, obviously you're going in a different direction.
00:02:59.160 It's been very different.
00:03:00.380 But in the U.S., we have Donald Trump.
00:03:02.940 The DOJ has announced they will begin to denaturalize people, denaturalize individuals
00:03:09.900 who are here and have committed certain crimes, lose their citizenship, potentially deport them.
00:03:14.320 One story, a British individual who was distributing child sexual abuse material was denaturalized
00:03:20.860 already.
00:03:21.880 So, it's an interesting story.
00:03:23.360 I'm curious your take on that from a British perspective.
00:03:25.940 But the context, of course, being we just saw Bob Villain chanting on stage at Glastonbury
00:03:30.980 that you're never getting your country back.
00:03:33.480 So, what's going on?
00:03:35.440 Well, I'll tell you, you can keep that guy.
00:03:37.000 I don't want my guy back, the other guy.
00:03:40.540 Like, sorry, you know.
00:03:42.120 He's your guy.
00:03:42.840 You take him.
00:03:44.520 I know, but I'm trying to think of an excuse.
00:03:46.320 I'm very pro-immigration all of a sudden.
00:03:48.620 Definitely to America.
00:03:51.640 Man, it's been an interesting couple of days.
00:03:54.600 So, the context is that Glastonbury is a very white and middle-class festival.
00:04:01.460 I don't know whether you've seen pictures of the crowd, but you'll notice that they're
00:04:05.100 probably on average about, in fact, we know, actually, that they're about 40 on average
00:04:09.540 in age.
00:04:10.820 They're middle Englanders.
00:04:12.300 They're all basically all white.
00:04:14.580 And disproportionately, people who work in office jobs.
00:04:19.500 So, they're part of the sort of technocratic managerial regime.
00:04:22.380 And it seems that every year, what they do at Glastonbury Festival is get a series of obscure
00:04:28.200 ethnic acts to get up on stage, saying, we hate Britain, so the crowd can cathartically 0.92
00:04:34.140 cheer for it. 0.74
00:04:34.880 So, yeah, God, we do as well.
00:04:36.500 Right?
00:04:37.160 And you might think that this is weird, but actually, it's kind of necessary.
00:04:41.060 It's become kind of a religious right for them.
00:04:43.140 Because, remember, these people are the system, right?
00:04:46.720 When the left is like, oh, this system is racist, it's homophobic, it's xenophobic, it's all 0.98
00:04:51.760 these terrible ists and phobes, they're liberals. 0.97
00:04:55.420 So, they say, yeah, yeah, no, it's really bad.
00:04:58.000 But my mortgage payments rely on it, right?
00:05:00.860 So, I've got to go to work tomorrow.
00:05:03.100 And even though I agree with the radical leftists that the system is exactly as racist as you
00:05:07.380 think it is, I have to go there, and I have to do my job, and I have to carry on and
00:05:12.480 pay the bills.
00:05:13.720 And the thing is, there's also this kind of discordance in their minds, because they
00:05:18.100 also know the system isn't actually racist, right?
00:05:20.200 The system is actually anti-racist.
00:05:21.980 The system does everything it can to funnel resources from hardworking people via their
00:05:27.280 taxes to disproportionately minority communities who don't pay taxes, who are not a net gain
00:05:33.460 to the exchequer.
00:05:36.880 And so, they know first person that it's not racist, but they can see the disparate outcomes
00:05:41.320 and they say, oh, well, it just has to be racism.
00:05:43.820 It just has to be.
00:05:44.780 And so, they have to live with this all day, every day, all year. 0.99
00:05:48.480 And Glastonbury is where they get to go and say, fuck the system, whilst being the system, 0.99
00:05:53.940 to purge themselves of these ill humors that build up inside of them. 0.99
00:05:59.520 And so, it's very, very performative.
00:06:02.840 And like I said, they do this basically every year.
00:06:04.780 They get the most obscure ethnic acts that they can get, and pretend like they've been 1.00
00:06:08.980 big fans of these people, while they say, you know, to hell with Britain, we hate the 0.99
00:06:12.440 British, we hate white people, we hate the English. 0.99
00:06:14.740 And so, Bob Villain is just following in that long tradition. 0.98
00:06:18.180 And actually, you'll notice that if you look at the media coverage, it's the people on social
00:06:23.500 media, like, hang on, does he have a song that says you're never getting your country
00:06:27.880 back, and shut up about it, right?
00:06:30.040 It's the people on social media who see that. 0.66
00:06:31.640 And like, I'm not okay with that.
00:06:33.660 The media, the politicians, they're all screeching that he was like, death to the IDF.
00:06:37.880 Right.
00:06:38.780 And it's just like, the IDF is an army.
00:06:42.780 Like, it's not like he's, you know, it's an active army engaged in military operations.
00:06:47.220 Obviously, it has enemies.
00:06:48.700 Like, the idea, and I'm not saying, you know, you have to be for or against the IDF, and
00:06:52.260 if you're for the IDF, obviously, you don't want them to die.
00:06:54.620 But you've got to concede that their enemies obviously do want them to die, which is why
00:06:58.460 they're fighting them with real live ammunition and explosives.
00:07:02.460 And it's the same as like Russia and Ukraine.
00:07:04.560 If you're a Ukrainian, and you say death to the Russian army, I'm like, of course you think 1.00
00:07:08.800 that, of course. 0.92
00:07:10.260 You know, and if you're a Russian, you say death to the Ukrainian army, because that's 1.00
00:07:13.440 exactly what you're doing when you fight. 0.96
00:07:15.780 You're bringing death to your enemies.
00:07:17.600 So the pearl clutching over the statement of death to the IDF, it's like, what are you talking
00:07:23.240 about?
00:07:24.740 That's a perfectly normal position to have regarding an enemy army.
00:07:27.980 And so it's not really very offensive at all.
00:07:30.260 The more offensive thing was the story he told about Zionists, right?
00:07:34.700 Because, of course, he was at the United Talent Agency group.
00:07:39.980 And this is staffed at the top end entirely by Jewish people.
00:07:45.140 And so when he's giving the story about, oh, I work for Zionists, and they're really pro-Israel, 0.97
00:07:48.300 and I really hate them. 0.51
00:07:49.040 And, well, I mean, it was kind of expected that they'd say, well, right, okay, then,
00:07:53.040 well, you're dropped, right?
00:07:54.840 But again, even that wasn't really the offensive thing.
00:07:57.440 That was what got him dropped from his label.
00:07:58.740 It was the death of the IDF.
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00:08:27.380 I think they've got everyone up in a...
00:08:29.120 Right.
00:08:30.260 It's a very weird thing.
00:08:31.660 But the actual thing that...
00:08:32.740 And it's interesting how you...
00:08:34.380 That's the thing that you focused on here.
00:08:36.880 Yeah.
00:08:37.140 Because it shows you where people's interests lie, right?
00:08:40.760 So our political class and our media class are obsessed with defending Israel, 0.52
00:08:45.120 which I think Israel is doing a perfectly good job of defending itself.
00:08:48.620 I can't help but notice that the IDF are one of the most capable military forces in the world.
00:08:54.100 They're highly experienced, they're highly effective, and they keep winning everywhere.
00:08:57.480 I don't think we need to be protective over them.
00:09:00.620 I think they're doing just fine.
00:09:02.580 And then on the other side, you've got the people who are like actually concerned about the state of the country
00:09:07.000 and the nature of the country, the sort of moral telos of the country,
00:09:11.240 where the country is going and who the country is actually for.
00:09:14.500 And that's where the Bob Villan song pissed everyone off.
00:09:17.960 Because that song was recorded back in 2020, right?
00:09:20.360 This is not a new song.
00:09:21.980 And it's interesting that for the last five years, that record label was quite happy to publish his song
00:09:27.340 about you're never getting your country back.
00:09:29.400 That was a rabbit in our face.
00:09:30.540 The BBC promoted this guy since 2016, trying to make him a star.
00:09:34.920 And all of a sudden, he's just like, well, I actually don't like Israel.
00:09:38.240 And they're like, well, you're good.
00:09:39.780 That's very interesting.
00:09:41.340 I can't help but notice a few things about that.
00:09:43.520 You know what I mean?
00:09:44.360 So that's the current state of play.
00:09:45.600 It is funny how it is largely blowing up on a lot of their faces.
00:09:49.960 These record labels, these media outlets have promoted the left being like, oh, all the woke stuff, whatever.
00:09:57.900 They didn't call it the woke stuff, but saying, oh, diversity.
00:09:59.640 It's so fantastic.
00:10:01.000 And then one day, the guy they hired turns around and says, oh, by the way, also, we hate Israel. 0.58
00:10:05.200 And it's like, oh, whoops.
00:10:07.180 But that was funny, too, because I think even Ted Cruz was getting flack because he shared a video of Bob Villan saying,
00:10:13.440 Death of the IDF, and he was like, how could this be?
00:10:15.600 We got to investigate this.
00:10:16.540 And everyone's like, what?
00:10:17.660 Not the part where he's singing, you're never getting your country back to a bunch of Brits at a time when they're dealing with a mass migration crisis. 1.00
00:10:25.420 We have that issue happening here.
00:10:28.140 Yeah.
00:10:28.400 I do love how.
00:10:29.680 It's not something that bothers them for some reason.
00:10:30.980 It's really weird.
00:10:32.360 Yeah.
00:10:32.500 And the thing is, well, this is the only thing worth talking about, right?
00:10:36.700 And it really is a genuine question that has been brought upon us, which is there is a collective we, right, in we the people.
00:10:46.520 Americans very much recognize there is a collective we.
00:10:49.320 It's the very first word of the Declaration of Independence.
00:10:52.860 So that assumes pre-political loyalties.
00:10:57.940 That assumes there is a group of people who are loyal to one another, and they have decided, actually, they don't like the government.
00:11:03.580 They don't like what's happening.
00:11:05.060 And so they're going to do something about it.
00:11:06.620 And what they do is create a jurisdiction for themselves.
00:11:11.500 We, the people, own this land.
00:11:14.480 We, collectively, are going to be the people who steward it and declare its laws and decide its policies, right?
00:11:21.360 And that question is what's coming up very, very sharply in Britain at the moment.
00:11:26.280 If there is a jurisdiction, a collective jurisdiction over the United Kingdom, specifically England, to whom does it belong?
00:11:34.540 In Scotland, they've got a devolved parliament with the Scottish National Party.
00:11:38.400 In Wales, they've got a devolved parliament with the Welsh Nationalist Party, although the Labour Party is in charge in Wales.
00:11:43.360 In England, we don't have anything, and this is for anyone. 0.99
00:11:47.400 And so the question is, do the English have jurisdiction over England?
00:11:50.120 And Bob Villain would say, no, and you're not getting it back.
00:11:53.660 We are keeping it.
00:11:54.480 And what I love about this is, it's just an open admission.
00:11:56.960 Yeah, no, we've taken your country, and you're not having it back. 0.98
00:11:59.500 And we're going to keep it from you.
00:12:01.440 And it's like, hey, but at the moment, every right winger in Britain is saying, no, we're getting our country back.
00:12:06.540 So just saying, you've pissed a lot of people off on that.
00:12:09.720 I got a question.
00:12:10.460 So in the United States, a lot of people don't know the difference between England, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom.
00:12:16.040 Awesome. So I suppose maybe you could just give a quick cursory answer.
00:12:21.800 But my question was, do you guys view England as a separate nation from, say, Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland?
00:12:29.920 Ethnically, it is.
00:12:33.460 So the nations of...
00:12:36.520 Okay, so in Northwestern Europe, you have the British Isles, which is the island of Ireland.
00:12:45.140 And then Great Britain is the largest island of this archipelago.
00:12:49.260 And then there are lots of small islands circling around it.
00:12:52.340 That's the British Isles.
00:12:53.660 The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the political jurisdiction of the crown of the United Kingdom,
00:13:00.320 which is over Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
00:13:05.580 And then in Great Britain, the big island, you have Scotland, England, and Wales as the constituent national ethnicities of those groups.
00:13:16.640 So the English give their name to England.
00:13:19.900 The Welsh give their name to Wales.
00:13:21.320 The Scottish give their name to Scotland.
00:13:22.840 And it's actually the reverse of in America, if you think about it.
00:13:26.240 America, the continent, gives its name to the Americans.
00:13:29.700 In Europe, French people give their name to France.
00:13:33.720 And so it's where the people are in the old world rather than what the continent is.
00:13:38.660 Because, I mean, before the English arrived in England 1,500 years ago, it was called Britannia.
00:13:44.540 So it wasn't called England.
00:13:46.760 England didn't exist at that point.
00:13:48.040 So it's a sort of strange reversal on that.
00:13:53.120 And, yeah, no, I mean, it's well understood in Britain that British means it's a purely political and legal identity, as in the British state.
00:14:05.680 Because the United Kingdom was formed as a union of crowns between England and Scotland in the 17th century.
00:14:14.320 I can't remember the exact date.
00:14:15.780 And it was formalized into the Union, the United Kingdom of Scotland, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland in 1707, the Act of Union.
00:14:26.600 But the constituent nations never went away.
00:14:30.420 The Welsh identity has been quite strong.
00:14:32.220 The Scottish identity is strong.
00:14:33.680 And to be honest with you, the English identity is still fairly strong, although it's been thinned out a lot recently.
00:14:39.080 But there's a big sort of push to reclaim it.
00:14:41.740 But this is all really interesting to Americans, I find.
00:14:44.960 Whenever I talk to Americans about it, they'll find it really interesting.
00:14:47.680 Because you guys aren't like an ancient tribal land, whereas everywhere in the old world is an ancient tribal land.
00:14:54.660 And so there's much more of a feeling of possession and ownership in the old world.
00:15:00.780 Whereas in America, people are like, oh, I'm just going to move somewhere else.
00:15:03.260 And I'm like, what do you mean you're just going to move somewhere else?
00:15:05.160 Oh, I just fancy living over there.
00:15:06.340 What do you mean fancy living over there?
00:15:08.440 Like, what are you talking about?
00:15:09.580 I'm not going to do that.
00:15:10.860 You know, my ancestors are from Wessex, and I live in Wessex.
00:15:14.440 And, you know, God willing, a thousand years' time, my ancestors will be still living in Wessex.
00:15:18.860 My descendants will still be living in Wessex.
00:15:20.600 What are you talking about?
00:15:21.640 You know, so it's a different mindset altogether.
00:15:25.100 So when this Bob Villain guy says, you're not getting your country back, who did he write that about?
00:15:29.620 Was that, I mean, because the song is not about the UK, but he is chanting it in this instance.
00:15:35.000 When he's saying it to you guys, it is.
00:15:39.040 Shouldn't have English men and women going to jail over the things they post on social media.
00:15:43.240 And it's going to change.
00:15:45.040 We are going to win this.
00:15:46.440 We are going to move this forward.
00:15:47.840 We are going to take government, and we are going to change it.
00:15:50.760 It is happening.
00:15:51.940 This is the way we're going to do it.
00:15:53.140 I've heard that one of the issues you guys had, and it's not like I heard this from anyone of merit, but that the crown is woke.
00:15:59.460 That your royal family is in favor of these immigration policies and transforming the country the way it was.
00:16:06.500 Yeah.
00:16:06.920 Can they do anything about it, or are they woke?
00:16:08.640 Well, I mean, the king technically has as much power as he could possibly want, right?
00:16:14.700 Like, he could force a constitutional crisis and dissolve parliament, and so we'd be back into kind of 17th century English Civil War territory, where if the parliament wanted to resist it, they'd have to raise an army.
00:16:25.240 But everyone hates the parliament.
00:16:27.060 No one, no one would fight for the parliament, and the actual military forces are loyal to the king.
00:16:31.780 But the problem is, the king would never do that, because he is, as you say, a total woke globalist. 0.98
00:16:37.900 He is exactly, I'm not joking, he is as much of a shit-lib as any blue-haired Portland lefty. 0.99
00:16:45.620 I'm not joking. 0.99
00:16:47.040 How does that happen?
00:16:47.960 He's 90 or something, isn't he?
00:16:50.100 I think he's 78.
00:16:51.800 Oh, okay.
00:16:52.380 He's quite old.
00:16:53.200 He's not quite that old.
00:16:54.280 I'd have to double-check that, but he's quite old, but he's always been a bit of a kind of lib, and he's very concerned about climate change and global warming, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, all that stuff, you know, and all the refugees welcome, and he, like, when it's some Islamic holiday, he'll go down and serve food to them and stuff like that, and it's just like, oh, great, you know, he's not our king, you know what I mean?
00:17:16.600 You saw he abdicated the land of Canada to the Anishibag and Algonquin people, right? 0.99
00:17:21.180 Yeah, I mean, Keir Starmer, yeah, yeah, it's, oh, God, like, Keir Starmer is currently dismembering what little remains of the British Empire, and the king is just like, yeah, no, go ahead, I'm not going to stop you from dismembering my realm, I don't care, we're going to give away, like, the Chagos Islands thing is the most ridiculous thing in the world, so out of nowhere, Keir Starmer was like, I think we're going to give away this Chagos Islands, like, okay, but we've got a military base there, we work with the Americans with it, we actually need that, and he's like, yeah, good point, maybe we'll lease it off the Mauritians who are giving it back to you for $9 billion a year or something stupid like that, and it's like,
00:17:51.180 who is making you do this? 0.85
00:17:52.700 Yeah.
00:17:53.060 Like, no one was making you do this, why are you doing this?
00:17:55.560 So we're just, we're just paying out money for no reason, I hate it, honestly.
00:17:59.660 And it makes no sense at the same time, while they're complaining about Russia, largely, you're complaining there's an imperial nation that wants to take over Europe while you're dismantling your infrastructure.
00:18:10.420 Yeah.
00:18:10.540 Is Russia making them do it, I guess?
00:18:12.500 Can we point the finger there?
00:18:13.700 Nope, nope, no one is making them do it.
00:18:15.940 What it comes from is a legal judgment, now, like, a legal piece of advice, it wasn't even a judgment, but it was a piece of advice that some human rights lawyer wrote years ago saying, oh, well, shouldn't Chagos be really with the Mauritians?
00:18:30.900 And there's nothing to it, there's no force of law behind it, it's just that I think that would be nice.
00:18:34.540 But you're exactly right, like, we are moving into an era of geopolitical instability, actually securing those things that we actually already have to make sure we can project power around the world to protect ourselves, seems wise.
00:18:48.580 And so obviously, the Labour government is like, right, okay, well, if that's going to hurt Britain to give that away, then we'll give that away.
00:18:54.200 And any excuse to make us weaker and more feeble, that's what this is.
00:18:59.500 I could make a bunch of predictions about the United States, you know, it's looking pretty good.
00:19:04.880 The Trump administration, like I said, they've already begun denaturalizing criminals, your citizenship is not guaranteed.
00:19:11.300 The big, beautiful bill that Trump calls it's got a lot of problems, but it does provide tens of billions for ICE and CBP to begin mass deportations.
00:19:20.360 So there's a lot of things to be looking forward to with what the Trump administration is doing.
00:19:24.500 As for the UK, however, I don't follow you guys' news every day, but at least a cursory glance, it doesn't seem like you have that same kind of, you did mention the Restore Britain movement.
00:19:34.800 But is there actually political weight behind any kind of effort to solve these issues for you guys?
00:19:42.360 Well, it was literally only launched yesterday.
00:19:46.300 So again, to get 100,000 followers in a day, not a bad thing in Britain.
00:19:50.580 So that's a good start.
00:19:51.920 It's hard to say.
00:19:55.100 We're four years out from an election, and a lot can change in four years.
00:19:59.000 Nigel Farage is currently ahead in the polls, but he only started this party four years ago.
00:20:02.760 So who knows what happens in four years?
00:20:05.660 I tell you what, though, I am generally quite impressed with how Trump is handling things.
00:20:10.460 Love Stephen Miller.
00:20:11.740 My God.
00:20:13.100 He's great, right? 0.65
00:20:14.220 What an absolute beast. 0.87
00:20:14.840 Yeah.
00:20:15.140 I love Stephen Miller's uncompromising moral lectures towards the press, being like, no, no, no.
00:20:23.800 It's about locking up criminals, about deporting criminals, about making America safe.
00:20:28.140 And those people who shouldn't be here can just go.
00:20:30.740 And again, the denaturalization.
00:20:32.440 Look, man, if it was signed at a stroke for Penn that they happen to be naturalized, it could be unnaturalized at the stroke for Penn as well.
00:20:38.100 You know, sorry, if that's what it takes to make you a citizen, then you're not really a part—you're not from the place.
00:20:44.000 You know what I mean?
00:20:44.740 Yeah.
00:20:44.940 And so if you don't behave well, if you commit crimes, yeah, stroke for Penn, out.
00:20:49.640 That's perfectly reasonable.
00:20:51.380 This law has been on the books since the 40s.
00:20:53.740 Right.
00:20:54.520 That in the event of fraud or crimes against the United States, citizenship can be revoked.
00:21:01.040 The process can be revoked.
00:21:02.280 So I suppose then, you know, with all the talk about regime change in Iran, would you welcome the U.S. bringing regime change to you guys?
00:21:13.380 As with the Iranians, no. 1.00
00:21:16.320 Believe it or not, people actually don't approve of this.
00:21:18.680 You can ask the Canadians at the moment.
00:21:20.700 They like that.
00:21:22.600 The U.S. coming and changing your government?
00:21:25.100 It's got to be something that comes from the inside, right?
00:21:27.480 It has to be something that we do yourself.
00:21:29.580 On the plus side, I can't imagine that the Mullahs are going to last that long in Iran. 0.64
00:21:34.140 Like, the Iranians are not an Islamic society anymore.
00:21:37.220 And so having this artificially imposed upon them from above—and the Iranians are proud, man. 1.00
00:21:42.460 They've got a great history, and they're a very proud people.
00:21:44.780 So, like, saying, look, we're going to come over and regime change, it's just going to get their backs up.
00:21:49.180 And it's the same over here.
00:21:50.620 You know, we're actually—we are a proud people with a great history, and we're not having this.
00:21:54.340 The change has to come from within.
00:21:56.240 We appreciate the offer, though.
00:21:57.620 To be honest with you, right?
00:22:01.560 If something kicked off here, I don't think our government has the capacity to resist it, right?
00:22:06.680 They are not competent.
00:22:08.520 They're not effective.
00:22:10.100 They can't recruit for the army. 0.99
00:22:13.160 The police are absolute—they're just a clown show. 0.92
00:22:16.180 I mean, every day you see videos of British police looking just, oh, God, like they've come out of a circus or something. 0.98
00:22:22.520 And it's just like—and the thing they're most worried about is the white British population has been like, no, we've had enough.
00:22:28.860 We've had enough.
00:22:29.400 There's violence from here on out.
00:22:30.800 That's what it's going to be.
00:22:31.660 And that is why Starmer came out and just started rampantly putting people through the courts after Southport.
00:22:37.260 Because he was like, no, I've got to smash this down and make an example.
00:22:40.740 And that's why they're all in jail at the moment, to make an example.
00:22:42.960 The thing is, this didn't make people less angry.
00:22:44.780 This didn't make people less inclined to not cooperate.
00:22:48.180 It just cemented a lot of people's results, saying, okay, all right, we noted, and we'll see where that goes, right?
00:22:57.080 I think you've got—there's an inevitability.
00:23:01.080 Either—we know what to say.
00:23:03.000 Either there's a peace—those that prevent peaceful revolution make violent revolution inevitable.
00:23:08.260 Yep.
00:23:08.520 Or if you stop peaceful revolution.
00:23:10.400 So the issue is, in New York, you've got this Zoran Mamdani, who has literally proposed taxing white people.
00:23:18.400 And, you know, I've had people ask me, like, how is it possible that he could actually put that—like, you know, my friends and family are like, what?
00:23:24.080 And I'm like, look, I've shown the website.
00:23:25.900 Here's the PDF.
00:23:26.540 It says richer and whiter neighborhoods should be taxed higher property tax values.
00:23:31.200 And whiter neighborhoods—
00:23:32.300 It's literally word for word.
00:23:33.200 Like, it's not even an implication.
00:23:34.780 Right.
00:23:35.040 It's not even like an inference.
00:23:36.560 But they asked me, how is it possible?
00:23:37.820 And I tell them, because white people are 29 percent of the population, and so if all racial groups have an outgroup—I'm sorry, have an in-group preference, then you basically can go to 70 percent of the population and say, hey, here's a racial group you guys don't like.
00:23:53.060 How about we take their stuff?
00:23:54.080 And they're going to vote yes.
00:23:55.500 But what's going to happen is, for these white liberals with outgroup preference, they're agreeing to it.
00:24:02.060 If that spreads, or let's say, like, in the instance of the UK with England, once it gets down to a certain percentage of the population being a minority but overtly oppressed, you will get riots.
00:24:14.720 And so right now, with people being arrested for social media posts and with the percentage base of the white population of England declining, sooner or later, you are going to have people who say, I have nothing left to lose.
00:24:28.760 The government is crushing me.
00:24:30.000 They're taking everything from me.
00:24:31.100 And it will just become race riots.
00:24:33.600 I think in the U.S., this is going to reverse.
00:24:38.700 Someone pointed—I can't remember who was on our show last night—said that the white, classical, liberal nations tolerated equality and these liberal values among all races that these other nations do not appreciate.
00:24:54.380 So it's not about the race of the person necessarily, but when you bring in people from South America or Africa or otherwise, and their views are more tribal and racially based, once they get power, they will eliminate the equality in the system, and then you will get race conflict again. 0.94
00:25:12.280 So, yeah, the best-case scenario is that what happens to our countries, and I mean all of our countries, the Anglosphere countries, is—I mean, best-case scenario, Lebanon, worst-case scenario, South Africa, right? 0.93
00:25:27.940 Yep.
00:25:28.960 So things are rough in Lebanon, and they've been through a civil war.
00:25:32.440 But in South Africa, you have a building genocidal movement that has—there's a million people strong, and that results in loads of stochastic terrorism of the most barbaric kind, genuinely the most barbaric kind.
00:25:46.580 A kind of balkanization like you see in Lebanon would be better than that. 1.00
00:25:50.460 But honestly, I think the South Africanization of our countries is what's going on. 1.00
00:25:54.460 I mean, what's the guy's name in New York?
00:25:57.200 I can never pronounce it.
00:25:58.160 Zoran Mamdani.
00:26:00.480 Zoran Mamdani, yeah.
00:26:01.780 Like, um, just, just, you know, it's not exactly, you know, like bloody George Washington, is it?
00:26:09.440 You know, like Samuel Adams, Zoran Ramani or whatever his name is.
00:26:13.980 I think something might have gone wrong there.
00:26:16.900 Do you know that in South Africa, they have gates blocking their home—the living room and kitchen from their bedrooms?
00:26:23.980 So when you go into your property, you open up a gate and lock it, and it's got probably spikes or electrical wire or something.
00:26:31.080 Then you go in your house, and when you're going to bed, you go through your bedroom gate and lock the gate to your bedrooms because it is so common that they bypass the outer gate and break into the house.
00:26:42.480 They had to put gates around their bedrooms where they sleep.
00:26:45.040 That's South Africa. 0.96
00:26:45.700 That's awful, isn't it? 0.93
00:26:47.700 Yep.
00:26:48.000 But this Zoran guy, what he's doing is an explicitly South African policy where it's affirmative action for the majority in New York against the minority who, honestly, I just don't think deserve it. 1.00
00:27:02.260 That's the fundamental issue that comes to all of this.
00:27:05.020 And the question is, well, again, it comes back to the kind of jurisdiction, because in South Africa, there are lots of black people who just feel that they have complete jurisdiction over the country.
00:27:14.800 It's not a rainbow nation. 0.98
00:27:16.220 It's a black nation with an occupying white minority. 0.98
00:27:19.680 And that's what Zohan is putting across when he says, we're just going to tax the white people because they're richer, right?
00:27:26.320 So the jurisdiction isn't an integrated, shared one between a plurality of communities.
00:27:31.880 It's the non-white community having jurisdiction over the white community. 0.95
00:27:36.640 Yep.
00:27:36.840 And that's what people can feel is happening in all of these countries.
00:27:40.440 They can feel it.
00:27:42.000 And frankly, it's the dignity of their own sort of collective sense of self that is under attack with all of this.
00:27:48.560 And this is what the Southport riots were about.
00:27:50.460 It's like, look, we know the country isn't being run for us, and we want a country that's being run for us.
00:27:55.180 Because people have got to remember, all of the immigrants who come in, they all have countries of their own that are run for them.
00:28:01.880 Yep.
00:28:01.960 They all have these countries.
00:28:03.220 And you can say, yeah, but look at them.
00:28:04.980 Like there was a Democrat the other day who said, yeah, but it's not safe to send people back to Haiti.
00:28:09.720 It's like, okay, but whose fault is that?
00:28:11.760 Like, that's their problem.
00:28:13.280 And if you want, we can send a governor maybe.
00:28:15.520 Send like 5,000 men, send a governor, set up a task force, impose colonial rule on them if it makes it safer for them to live there.
00:28:23.360 But it's not that we have to take them all in as refugees. 0.73
00:28:26.040 It's not our responsibility.
00:28:27.540 That's what independence means.
00:28:28.980 That's why I liked the movie Black Panther.
00:28:30.640 Black Panther, where it was a tribal country where the right to rule was trial by combat among only the men in the regal line.
00:28:42.200 We don't do that here.
00:28:42.580 But also when T'Challa said, if we open up our country to refugees, we bring their problems in with us.
00:28:49.640 So anyway, I mean, I don't know what the message of the movie is supposed to be.
00:28:53.280 You described it as Adolf Hitler versus Richard Spencer, I believe, which was funny. 1.00
00:28:57.020 But we are out of time.
00:28:58.100 So, Carl, where can people find you?
00:28:59.540 You can find me at LodeCaesars.com, where we cover this sort of stuff every day on the podcast.
00:29:05.300 Right on.
00:29:05.660 Thanks for hanging out, man.
00:29:06.400 It's always good to see you.
00:29:07.300 We'll see you next time.
00:29:07.860 Anytime, man.
00:29:08.420 Take care of yourself.
00:29:08.960 Take care.
00:29:09.040 I actually, I did like the Black Panther movie.
00:29:14.180 Because for those that don't know, the first Black Panther, T'Challa was like, close our borders. 0.82
00:29:19.180 We don't let anybody in.
00:29:20.560 The wealth belongs to us.
00:29:21.840 Our way of life belongs to us.
00:29:24.000 And in the end, they're like, we'll bring in some people.
00:29:26.600 But, as you can clearly see from all of the MCU Marvel history, they kept the borders up.
00:29:33.300 They kept the barriers up.
00:29:34.060 They didn't let anybody in.
00:29:35.760 They went to Oakland and started a youth center in one of the wealthiest nations in the world,
00:29:41.320 which is just weird or whatever.
00:29:43.040 And then, of course, they made the second Black Panther, which I kid you not, I hope you guys have seen it. 0.95
00:29:47.720 It's about a bunch of Mexicans, not a joke, sneak into Wakanda through the river.
00:29:56.600 And in order to defeat Namor, the bad guy, who's a Mexican guy, whatever the woman's name is, I forgot her name.
00:30:04.960 You know, because Tali died.
00:30:06.460 She has to dry his back off.
00:30:08.080 I'm not kidding.
00:30:09.320 This is not a joke.
00:30:10.360 In the movie, they're like, this Mexican man, his skin absorbs the oxygen from the water.
00:30:17.680 So that's why he's so strong.
00:30:19.900 If you can dry him off, he will be weak.
00:30:22.620 And she literally blasts his back with a jet, which, like, dries all the water off. 1.00
00:30:27.460 And then he collapses.
00:30:29.360 Wow!
00:30:30.280 I can't believe they made that movie.
00:30:32.620 Nobody noticed that?
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