Wei-Peng Yu from NASA explains the science behind the concept of zero-point energy, and what it means for our future in terms of our technological advancement. Plus, an update on the investigation into the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.
00:02:36.320I'm so happy to be here with Tim, Ian, and Dr. Yu from NASA.
00:02:39.960If people don't know me, I'm the guy that's been investigating MH370, the missing plane,
00:02:44.460the videos that show the orbs spinning around the plane, teleporting the plane to another location.
00:02:48.620And so today, you know, the reason why I came here is I wanted to have Dr. Yu come on from NASA and help explain to people the science around the concept of zero-point energy,
00:02:59.780why it's significant, and what it means for our future in terms of our technological advancement.
00:03:26.300Can we start with just, like, maybe pulling up the videos?
00:03:28.660I think if you pull up my Twitter account here, guys, and people can follow along at home if they want as well.
00:03:33.160I just want to give a quick update since the last time I was on this podcast, actually, I think it was January 5th, 2024.
00:03:39.600And there's been a lot of updates with respect to these videos and investigation.
00:03:43.360So if you just kind of scroll down to the first pinned tweet here and show this video, one of the biggest revelations that was found is that the video on the right that is kind of, you can see the plane being shot in the circle there, is actually something called Wide Area Motion Imagery.
00:04:36.040And these drones, they can go in like a hexagonal pattern above an area, and they're taking photos all the time, like 300 photos several times per second.
00:04:46.360That data beams through relay satellites to ground-based computers, and then it actually produces Google Earth video playback.
00:04:55.880And it's a real-time plus rewind capability.
00:04:59.600So somebody logs into the system, they see a big, huge field of view, they press somewhere on the screen, that will open up a window.
00:05:08.860That's the window we're seeing in this.
00:05:10.460They can move the window around and track the object they want to track.
00:05:14.100And then at the end of the video—now, in this particular version, you don't see it—there's a mouse cursor that comes on the screen, and they close the window at the end.
00:05:21.980I just wanted to show people this version because you can see how both videos are perfectly in sync.
00:05:28.420You can even watch how the orbs are perfectly aligned in both videos as well.
00:05:33.620And so this is huge because previously I was looking, how do you prove these videos are real?
00:05:39.640I had found the leaker of the videos, a guy named Edward C. Lin.
00:05:43.380He legally changed his name around the same time I was on your podcast, actually,
00:05:48.120after I started naming him as the guy that leaked these videos because nobody knows he's the guy that leaked the videos.
00:05:54.840And I realized that I don't need him after I found the Gorgon Stare revelation.
00:05:59.060The reason being, since that's Gorgon Stare Increment 2, that was only announced a couple months after the plane disappeared,
00:06:08.760which means that Gorgon Stare has been in use for 10 years.
00:06:13.820The number of Air Force personnel who've seen Gorgon Stare or intel people who've seen it has to be thousands.
00:06:20.860That means thousands of people know that that is legitimate wide area motion imagery footage,
00:06:26.880and they're just not saying anything about it.
00:06:30.720So at this point, anybody who thinks the videos are fake,
00:06:33.420all you have to do is go to anybody in the Air Force who's seen Gorgon Stare
00:06:39.700and say, is that Air Force Gorgon Stare wide area motion imagery?
00:10:27.640That is not an annihilation we're seeing happen to the plane.
00:10:30.340We have to have conservation in physics all the time.
00:10:33.040So if something disappears from over here, it's got to reappear somewhere else over here.
00:10:36.940It's actually a closed-loop teleportation protocol, meaning that there's a point A and a point B.
00:10:41.980Like, you know, in some of the sci-fi movies, like if they have like a warp gate and you have to go through that warp gate, that's what they're actually doing.
00:10:48.020So in your view, this version of teleportation is actually moving it in a higher dimension or moving it through space-time?
00:10:57.900And that's what we're going to hear talk about here today is how is this all actually possible?
00:11:03.240And how is it possible, like what we just saw there, that a plane can just vanish and almost look like it doesn't even displace the background?
00:11:10.720And the answer to this is Gravity Wave.
00:11:13.580What's the, when this happens, there's this big burst.
00:13:39.620So if they said, I looked at it, and my expert opinion is that it's CGI, I need only then one person who's a CGI expert to say no, and now it's a moot point.
00:13:51.400That's why it's not debunking anything.
00:13:53.360And that's why it's typically hard to debunk things.
00:13:55.540I'm not trying to make it seem like it's impossible.
00:14:00.080It could just be very difficult, if it is, to prove to people who want to believe it.
00:14:04.480I think that the scientific method, one issue I have with the scientific method is that they tend to say just because you can't reproduce something, that means it's not real.
00:14:13.520Just because we can't detect it, that means it's not real.
00:14:16.240So they're attempting to debunk potential with just the phenomenon that they're unable to replicate the potential.
00:14:32.180And you say, okay, the first question is if there is this big answer that allows teleportation, free energy to be possible, why haven't academics figured it out?
00:15:42.260And then after they've locked in, it looks like it switches from no propellant behind anymore and just laser in front, pulling it forward like a tractor beam.
00:15:49.100So it seems like Ashton already had the answer.
00:15:53.060So that's the laser focus, the laser beam, the trace of a laser beam.
00:16:30.700If people look at magnet inversion up, you say, okay, I have one positive magnet.
00:16:34.600I'm surrounded by negative, and then I put those next to each other.
00:16:37.920What happens is you get to a point where they attract, but then they lock in, and they won't repel or attract, and they get locked into a perfect orientation.
00:17:05.560And something that starts in motion will stay in motion, right?
00:17:07.760There was a story recently about a U.S. Air Force pilot who encountered one of the Tic Tac UFOs, and he said that it flew up to his plane and then locked in place.
00:17:19.180And when he would bank left, it would stay perfectly locked with the plane.
00:17:22.880Was that guy just lying, or is it that these things actually exist?
00:17:27.720What I find fascinating about this claim and this story is regardless of the veracity of the video itself, the idea that there could be orbs flying around is this could just be another UFO video.
00:17:43.620They've released tons of them showing phenomena very much like what these orbs are doing.
00:17:47.920Not in the same way, of course, spinning around the plane and then the plane disappears.
00:17:51.140But we've got tons of stories of the Tic Tacs locking in place, flying alongside U.S. aircraft.
00:17:57.160There was just a story the other day where a former U.S. Air Force pilot said that he encountered a UFO.
00:18:30.100Yeah, and I think you had Tony Merkel on as well.
00:18:31.920It was a good conversation, but respectfully, I think none of the congressmen have any idea of what's going on with this.
00:18:36.780They've been kept in the dark for the most part.
00:18:38.240There's a possibility that some of them know, but we have figured out this technology, whether or not it comes from aliens or ancient civilizations, or we're just using that as a cover-up.
00:18:56.480And so, sadly, I think a lot of people, it's just too far beyond the paradigm for people to think that we have stuff like teleportation technology,
00:19:03.620or that free energy could actually be real, when we've been kind of brainwashed to think that, oh, no, it violates the first and second laws of thermodynamics.
00:19:11.900And so, I think that's the big struggle for people to kind of wrap their brains around this.
00:19:16.400Because the craziest part for me was that I would have thought the UFO people have been like, oh, Ashton's found these videos.
00:19:48.340But the amount of hate, the amount of individuals who have dedicated all of their time to harassing you and trying to discredit you is weird.
00:20:09.600It's possible that it is government agents or power structures that are afraid that if free energy gets dispersed to the human race, that we'll destroy ourselves by dropping it on the ground.
00:20:35.580So, you might see an expulsion here, but it's coming from somewhere just because you don't see where it's coming from doesn't mean it's not coming from somewhere.
00:20:43.320So, when you say free energy, instantly the naysayers say, aha, that's fake.
00:21:01.660And when you watch the MH370 videos, like, that's a good explanation for it because we see this plane get blipped out of the sky, but it's not this massive amount of energy released that we would expect from conventional understanding of physics.
00:21:14.340But that Boeing 777 represents a huge amount of energy due to its mass.
00:21:18.180I'm going to throw it out there for the anime nerds.
00:21:21.680In Full Metal Brotherhood, I'm sorry, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood and the original, I don't know if you guys are familiar with that at all.
00:21:31.220They live in a world of alchemy, and they can draw circles that control the flow of alchemical energy, and so they can draw a circle on a rock, and then the rock will reshape into a spear or something.
00:21:43.980There's one guy, however, Scar, who has markings, but when he tries to transmute, things explode.
00:21:52.840And they describe it as, in the show, he's not completing the process of controlling the energy.
00:21:59.020He's stopping halfway, which is the destruction before the reformation.
00:22:02.000The reason I bring that up, somewhat just to shout out all the nerds who are getting all giddy and excited because I like Full Metal Alchemist, but when we look at what we're doing with atomic bombs, for instance, that is simply the destructive process.
00:22:15.860We've figured out a way to release tons of energy.
00:22:18.720So this tiny object that we have can release an insane amount of energy, and it's destructive.
00:22:24.620What would happen if humans actually figured out how to take extremely dense forms of energy and then control what that energy does in an extremely efficient way?
00:22:34.220So instead of just having it explode, guide the energy in certain directions.
00:22:39.240I'm just saying if the technology advanced to where you could, you can have a tiny, tiny little bit of uranium blow up a whole city, or antimatter, antimatter explosion, substantially more powerful.
00:22:52.820If we could actually control how the energy flows, you could do tremendous things.
00:22:57.980So right here, for instance, you can see on the screen where there's UFO floating, and it's a magnet surrounded by their magnets.
00:23:05.440If we, or I should say when we, because I believe it is possible, maybe we already did, figure out how to utilize all of that energy that's in such a tight space, not just to create an explosion, but to guide that energy in a solid direction, we can levitate things very easily.
00:23:22.740There's tremendous amounts of energy all around us.
00:23:26.940An atomic bomb uses a very small amount of uranium or mox plutonium, whatever it is we're using, to make an explosion so massive it can vaporize an entire metropolitan area, depending on which bomb you're using.
00:23:41.740If all of that energy in such a small space was just focused in a very tight space upward, instead of forcing everything around it at hundreds of miles an hour outward, it would just hold itself upward.
00:23:55.480It might have something to do with developing a magnetic monopole, when you're talking about teleportation and momentum through, you know, what do you call this visceral reality?
00:24:03.320But they don't exist naturally in nature, from what we know, and you've got to create it artificially, because every magnet naturally splits into a north and a south.
00:24:12.080But if you can have a magnet that's just a north, then you can aim it and have great proportions.
00:24:16.580I've seen weird stuff they've done where they've like bent magnets, so they can create awkwardly positioned poles, and then they use that for various tools.
00:24:25.060I was watching a video, it was like a TED Talk or something.
00:24:26.740I don't know, I feel like you've got to explain, are we crazy?
00:24:29.260No, no, actually, make a lot of sense.
00:24:31.800So I want to make a comment, one thing about, you know, Ashton just mentioned about what is the laser, the black.
00:24:40.480You're a podcast listener, and this is a podcast ad heard only in Canada.
00:24:44.980Reach great Canadian listeners like yourself with podcast advertising from Libsyn Ads.
00:24:49.920Choose from hundreds of top podcasts, offering host endorsements, or run a pre-produced ad like this one across thousands of shows to reach your target audience with Libsyn Ads.
00:24:59.580Email Bob at Libsyn.com to learn more.
00:25:09.340So that's, the principle is no different than we use a radar locked in fighting airplanes and follow the trace.
00:25:18.480But laser is more high energy, more modern technology to trace.
00:25:22.860So this is a very common, so there's nothing to be surprised about.
00:25:26.600Yeah, if I could jump in, what we see with the plane is magnetic monopole, because you're seeing this plane get encapsulated, and then it's just not there anymore.
00:25:34.300You could think of that as like a positive or a minus, which would mean that, oh, the other side is going to be a positive or a minus.
00:25:38.720Like, last time I was actually on here, I brought Dave Rossi, who's a defense contractor engineer.
00:25:43.140He's the guy that came up with the fourth orb hypothesis, which is that, okay, this is a closed loop system.
00:25:48.480And what this would mean is that each of those three orbs spinning around the plane, imagine them each having one negative charge.
00:25:54.280So combined, they would have three negative charge.
00:25:57.320Okay, well, then the other side, we would expect there to be three positive charge on the fourth orb, which is the destination.
00:26:02.760So when that plane disappears and escapes out of our space time for a brief second, where is it going to show up?
00:26:08.740Well, it's going to be attracted to the location of the opposite charge, just like normal.
00:26:12.880A magnetic monopole would effectively give us free energy.
00:26:18.340Oh, definitely, because now that's teleportation.
00:26:20.660Now we're talking, I'm pulling something from over there and bringing it to me.
00:26:24.580So one of the things you see often on the internet, these perpetual motion machines, is they'll get a bunch of magnets, and they'll align them at an angle,
00:26:33.320The problem with that is magnetic dipoles retract and repel, so it's going to lock in place.
00:26:38.880It's not just going to get pulled forward, it's going to stop, unless you're using an electromagnet, which is you're pumping energy into the system.
00:26:44.480If we were able to create physical monopole magnets that were just pulling, it's going to keep spinning.
00:26:50.600And so you know what they do for that.
00:26:51.580And magnetic motors are real and are possible.
00:27:35.140They take a magnetic metal, a ferrous metal of some sort, shape into a bolt, and then you have a series of electromagnets that they turn on and off rapidly in succession,
00:27:45.980which pulls the bolt and then flings it out of the gun at a high speed.
00:27:49.800I have a demonstration, but I cannot bring the track with me.
00:27:56.040So I can – I have all the magnets for demonstrating the real gun.
00:29:02.460So, yes, it is possible to produce overunity systems.
00:29:06.820And this also means that we're going to reach a point where there is no scarcity on planet Earth.
00:29:11.940If we can have consistent overunity systems that are producing more energy out than what they're getting put in,
00:29:17.360we're going to get to a point eventually where we have infinite energy.
00:29:20.320And also alchemy is also real, is that when you look at cold fusion specifically, they are seeing transmutation of elements in those processes.
00:29:32.680If you talk to any expert in low-energy nuclear reactions like Bob Greenier, alchemy comes along with it.
00:29:37.520And what this means is we are looking at Star Trek replicators in our future, probably not in our lifetimes, but at some point, it's going to happen.
00:29:45.640The last thing I want to say is that nukes—I didn't think we were going to talk about nukes, but Dr., you and I were talking about it on the ride over.
00:29:51.740And I was reading Friedwart Winterberg's Principles of Thermonuclear Explosions earlier yesterday, actually, and the very first introduction just straight up says they classified fusion research because a nukes has two stages.
00:30:06.920It has the fission stage where the atoms are being separated, and then they flow into like a new area where the fusion stage occurs.
00:30:16.300And the fusion stage is where then you have this reaction occur, and it's being confined by this particular metal, and eventually it amplifies, and you have your massive explosion.
00:30:26.380And what they said was that they hid the fusion research because of nuclear weapons.
00:30:31.200It's all been classified since the H-bomb, and the H-bomb was specifically when they figured it out.
00:30:36.880So I propose they figured out this concept of zero-point energy, space not being empty, like during the Manhattan Project or right after.
00:30:44.460And that's when John Archibald Wheeler and Richard Feynman said, the amount of energy that's in this zero-point energy is not this tiny, insignificant amount that academic physicists will tell you.
00:31:24.880We're going, okay, the ether isn't this viscous fluid that we're going to touch and feel.
00:31:30.840It's this quantum extra dimension filled with energy.
00:31:34.060And we're living on the surface, and we can't see this extra dimension that's right there all around us all the time.
00:31:41.040And his theory of the Planck-Ether hypothesis is essentially the same as zero-point energy, saying that this space-time energy explains mass.
00:31:49.240It explains inertia, why we feel resistance when we move around.
00:32:35.540But in this case, the space actually permeated or filled with matters of such a substance, not just say purely we're talking about the ether.
00:32:47.660So that's where brain is called the zero-point energy point.
00:32:52.140So zero-point energy basically means it's the lowest state of the universe, right?
01:13:49.320Instead of talking about this particle, but how, however, this particle itself can be vibrating wave, could be not concentrated, could be spread like clouds.
01:14:04.020It's go with – have nothing to do with global medium wave, like a water wave, ocean wave.
01:14:11.380Have nothing to – they said that this particle itself, when you observe it, it's a particle.
01:14:16.240But when you look at the wave, it's become a wave propagates.
01:14:20.140So that's why double-slit experiments say, hey, we saw matter-particles, and to find matter-particles, somehow behave just like a wave phenomenon, right?
01:15:06.860I would think that the electron should fly off with more energy, just like if I were to punch this book, it's going to go flying off the table, right?
01:15:25.760Well, so Feynman would probably say, well, if I were to light a cannon, me lighting the cannon is not equivalent to the force of the cannonball because this is a system that's being interacted with.
01:15:55.880So Einstein said, okay, the only way to reconcile this is I need to come up with this quantum of light, and I'm going to change the spoon size of this quantum of light, and that's how I'll rationalize how I can interact with the metal in different ways based on the frequency.
01:16:33.700So you might have a violent reaction, or if they're oriented a certain way, it might be a not very violent reaction.
01:16:41.080So that's the answer is its resonance is that if everything is waves, then that metal, this piece of metal is just standing waves in a resonance.
01:16:48.920And what that means is that if you hit it with another wave, depending on how those waves interact, you might have very little effect, or you might have a very, very powerful effect.
01:16:57.160And then the last bit I was going to say on the photoelectric effect is for photons in general.
01:17:02.980Like if we imagine that light is actually particles, does that really make sense?
01:17:06.940Like look at this giant room we're in and look at all the lights around us.
01:17:09.860Now, if that was the case, I could be anywhere in this room and I could see the light, which would mean that these light particles must be filling up this entire room all the time, bouncing around everywhere and hitting us and what have you.
01:17:22.900Now, if that makes sense to you, that's great.
01:17:24.840But that doesn't really make a lot of sense to me to think of like infinite amount of particles everywhere, bouncing around everywhere.
01:17:29.580Instead, what I think of it is we're just in a medium where we're just seeing the disturbance.
01:17:33.000Therefore, we're seeing a point disturbance here.
01:17:35.200It doesn't matter where you are in the room because the point disturbance is coming from this point.
01:17:38.820It's not just bouncing around and hitting my eyes.
01:17:42.660So did I say that correctly, Dr. Yu, or how would you explain it?
01:17:47.740One is a photoelectrical effect, which is so important because this is a foundational experiment to justify wave-particle duality.
01:17:57.420So I actually made a great job, but I want to give you my version of my explanation because this is so important.
01:18:04.760If I can label you, the gentleman, if you can show the window slide with a photoelectrical effect, that slides, I wanted to make sure.
01:18:14.380And the second point, while he's bringing up, I will say the second point Ashlyn tried to build, how did he know the light cannot be particle?
01:18:24.480I'm going to demonstrate this one after photoelectrical effect.
01:18:28.020I hope you guys, I try to make sure the audience bring out, you know, you are talking about a level higher than general.
01:18:38.020I try to bring the general people out here.
01:18:41.040Photoelectrical effect, foundational experiment to justify what is the wave-particle duality.
01:19:02.180Classical physics made two mistakes to explain this one.
01:19:06.160The first mistake is in order to have a photoelectrical effect, so you have to knock electron out, called release, make electron escape, eject from a particle.
01:19:26.220The second mistake is assuming this is a, this phenomenon only happened to the energy level instead of a frequency that was actually just trying to emphasize.
01:19:39.740Different current means have a different frequency.
01:19:41.840So this is a, so that's why classical explanation failed.
01:19:45.700And that's how Albert Einstein, with Nobel Prize, by solving one of the failure, one of the failed assumptions.
01:19:53.960He's still assuming electron has to be knocked out as forming electricity effect.
01:20:02.640But anyway, but what his improvement is, he said, hey, the electron does not, not only you have to knock that out, but in order to make electron out, energy is not exactly the reason.
01:20:18.060You know, the reason is because they did a lot of experiment.
01:22:28.060Yeah, well, I would say that, you know, we're talking about the ether and that light is a wave here.
01:22:33.420And one of the things, too, that we can prove that this is potentially the case is, well, people say, well, what about the Michelson-Morley experiment?
01:22:40.220They'll say, oh, Michelson-Morley showed that we're not in this medium of energy.
01:22:45.400If, Tim, if you could pull up my Twitter on the most recent retweet I just did right now, actually, a guy named Martin Grusnick went ahead and he redid the Michelson-Morley experiment, which I think is very interesting.
01:22:56.800We'll connect to all of what we were talking about here.
01:22:58.400So if we can share this video real quick, and we don't necessarily need the sound on, but you can kind of just show it, is that he first takes a standard Michelson-Morley experiment and spins it around horizontally.
01:23:09.820So this shows that, okay, what is his experiment?
01:23:12.640Oh, the Michelson-Morley experiment is a laser interferometer.
01:23:15.820So this is actually kind of similar to entanglement where we split light down two different paths.
01:23:20.700So we split the light down two different paths and we want to see, is there a change between one path or the other?
01:23:25.440If we see some kind of shift, that would mean we must be in some kind of medium because something's moving the light.
01:23:30.520Otherwise, if we're in an empty vacuum, there shouldn't be any shift of the light at all.
01:23:33.980So when we spin it around horizontally, we can see right there there's no interference.
01:23:38.920There's no shift in the movement there.
01:23:40.500So you would say, okay, there must not be an ether because you're not seeing the light get manipulated at all.
01:23:45.240But look what happens when we turn it vertical.
01:23:47.580So we take the exact same experiment, turn it vertical, and now look what happens.
01:24:00.840The only thing that's happening here is either those light beams are closer to the ground or they're further up in the sky.
01:24:06.500That's what's happening when it's vertical.
01:24:08.120And it turns out you can see them shift to the right and you can see them shift to the left.
01:24:12.800The inflection point where that changes is actually where the mirrors that split the two light beams are perfectly perpendicular to the ground.
01:24:20.920So what could this possibly be that could account for this?
01:27:02.120It's almost like a time-space Coriolis effect when there's really funny videos where there'll be an Ecuador or anywhere on the equator, and they'll walk like 30 feet, and then there's a tub they fill with water, and they'll pull the plug, and the water will spin clockwise.
01:27:20.460Then they wheel the cart 30 feet south of the equator, fill it up, pull the plug, and it spins counterclockwise.
01:27:30.620Okay, so due to the rotation of the Earth, they're getting a distortion in the—
01:27:35.380What you end up seeing is it shifts left and right every time it reaches a certain plane.
01:27:42.320So it's either one or two on the image.
01:27:44.060That will determine whether or not it's either shifting to the left or the right as it continues going forward from there.
01:27:48.580I kind of imagine it like we're in a—the three-dimensional space we exist is actually an infinite number of two-dimensional planes stacked on top of each other.
01:27:59.540Yeah, that's exactly how you explain dimensions, actually.
01:28:02.320And that's, you know, there's this young kid that's got this video out there.
01:28:05.440I think he's older now, but that's how he explains it with stacking books on top of each other.
01:28:09.100So with a two-dimensional space, when you're moving within one plane and you're staying within one spatial plane,
01:28:19.880But when you start moving between an infinite number of planes, you'll start seeing the light start moving as you're going through different—
01:28:25.880That can explain the disturbance in the medium that we're seeing, how light can be a disturbance in the medium.
01:28:30.720And going back to the double-slit experiment real quick, with the double-slit experiment,
01:28:36.120one of the things that I wanted to point out is that John Kramer, the same guy we were talking about EPR experiments before,
01:28:41.580he's got a theory called transactional—the transactional interpretation.
01:28:47.220And this is important because they can do the double-slit experiment.
01:28:49.240Double-slit experiment, if you're not familiar, we have two slits.
01:29:41.700We can do this experiment with light from stars that are billions of light years away.
01:29:47.400So we can do that with these light—because we call this phenomenon non-locality.
01:29:51.640It's almost like the universe is reacting to what we're doing.
01:29:55.340But the weirdest part is, okay, we would say, that's cool.
01:29:57.720It seems to be some kind of faster-than-light interaction that's happening there to allow that to occur.
01:30:02.220But why does it work for light that's billions of light years away?
01:30:05.620Because if that's the case, then somehow it's like, am I going back in time and changing the way the light was released from the star a billion years ago?
01:30:12.120And this is where John Kramer says, only my theory can account for this, is that we have an advanced time-forward wave moving forward.
01:30:19.400And that's being met by a reverse time wave.
01:30:22.160And they couple, and there's an exchange of information that determines what should happen in our reality.
01:30:27.620And to me, that point goes back to what Tim said, is that the answer has to be we live in a simulation.
01:30:31.660You can't be rendering things in and out of existence without us being in some form of simulation.
01:30:35.500I think the issue I take with simulism is that a simulation is a lesser structure built by us, which is a facsimile of the greater.
01:30:48.820It'd be like saying someone finds a model aircraft and then goes, perhaps there are giant model aircraft that fly.
01:30:56.780We have aircraft, and this is a model of it.
01:30:59.260Our simulations are just models of the universe.
01:31:00.940So it's not that we live in a simulation, it's that the universe is a much more complex version of the miniature simulations that we make of it.
01:31:10.240Which is quite literally, we don't live in a simulation, we simulate the universe.
01:34:31.540And those potentials, we would say, are the interaction of the ether, the medium itself.
01:34:36.340There is something actually happening there, even if we can't physically see that thing happening.
01:34:42.520What I meant is, hypothetically, it looks like there's nothing, and our tools can't measure it.
01:34:47.660But if you backed away from it far enough, you would see it was like we were just so close to it that it looked like there was nothing there.
01:35:31.720That's the wall between me being here and me being in your seat.
01:35:35.140So if we remove that zero-point energy, if we squeeze that zero-point energy out, then theoretically we can cause macroscopic quantum tunneling to occur.
01:35:43.720And are we interfering with the protonic mass by hitting it with electrons or photons or something?
01:35:52.160What's causing it to disperse to allow that path?
01:35:55.880Well, if you watch the MH370 videos and you look up Salvatore Pais' patents, the U.S. Navy engineer who's become friends with me, by the way—
01:36:44.880That's how he says that we can interact with zero-point energy.
01:36:47.500And this is very similar to the idea of a wormhole, where they think that conventional physics would say we need this huge amount of energy to produce a wormhole, a huge amount of negative energy.
01:36:56.860But Matt Visser, in the late 90s and early 2000s, showed that we only need a very negligible amount of negative energy.
01:37:02.800Because all we have to do is create a thin soap bubble around our object, and that will uncouple it from space-time entirely.
01:37:10.540And now this can allow for these quantum tunneling effects on the macro-scale level.
01:37:14.720But we need something that can encompass something at a high, a large scale.
01:37:18.880So what I think they're doing in the plane is they're basically confusing the universe into thinking that it's an electron when these orbs converge on it and create that photonic flash that we see.
01:37:28.760For a brief second, the universe is like, is that an electron?
01:37:47.800Actually, then just remind me one thing about, so you're talking about MH370, right?
01:37:56.020You know, what is, Tim once mentioned, lots of people have doubted with the first video, which actually I was one of them.
01:38:04.300When I look at the first video, it feels like a video game.
01:38:07.800However, yesterday, Ashton posted another video, say 10 hours ago, this morning when I look at it, that video shows you truly, it's not like a video type, shows you true flight.
01:38:24.180And with orbiting true flight, it's not like in background color, blue, it's that one.
01:38:29.140But when I look at that one, I thought, wow, this video, now the average person can get it.
01:38:35.780I asked him, he said, the person who got this video was inside the job, but now he has to change the name or something to high identity.
01:38:44.640When I look at that one, I said, oh, my goodness.
01:38:50.720And that's, it's interesting, because when you talk to the physicists, everybody always asks me about those videos, like, hey, why don't you go talk to some VFX experts?
01:38:56.420I go, guys, like, I already had somebody who worked on these drones at China Lake, at Big Safari, where they test the drones out, confirmed to me, that's Gorgon staring at that, right?
01:39:05.260So, I already know, I've already had confirmation, I'm just waiting for other people to do it.
01:39:08.840But any physicist that looks at those videos should, like, really be given pause, because you're looking at that and you're going, whoa, this actually matches real electromagnetic physical principles and physics principles as well.
01:39:20.140This is something important to decouple the idea of whether or not the video is real is a different conversation than is the technology that you're talking about real, which it is.
01:39:29.260So, whether that's actually literally being applied there is almost irrelevant.
01:39:34.600And this is the thing I say about it, and this is why I want to come here and talk about Zero Point Energy, because the bigger thing for humanity is getting the science and technology out, having people understand about this.
01:39:43.660But at the same time, that was 239 people, right, that we can't forget about.
01:39:47.860And so, you know, that's where I say, you know, I want people to remember that the only reason why I even got to this point with the physics and science is from those videos.
01:39:56.520And those people deserve, their families deserve the truth about what happened.
01:39:59.540How do you guys, I mean, we could, I like talking about the technology itself, but how do you guys feel about the morals and the ethics of releasing Zero Point, the power of the vacuum to this?
01:40:08.600Systems of control are predicated upon who has access to energy.
01:40:12.200If overnight, everybody had 10x more efficient energy access, you'd have no leverage over them for any reason.
01:40:21.960So if China were to develop this technology, then all of a sudden the petrodollar is useless and they can fund and create and do whatever they want.
01:40:56.440And so now they're bringing all these immigrants who have lesser access to these things, who are willing to do this work, the jobs nobody wants, they call it, which is not necessarily true.
01:41:03.020But what would happen if we invented replicators, like in Star Trek, where you could just have a machine plugged into the wall and it can take free energy and then convert it and structure it perfectly into a cheeseburger with the proper amount of heat and browning and spice just by aligning all the particles perfectly.
01:41:54.880Our energy return on energy invested is exponentially increased, meaning one hour of work will equal 10 years of life as opposed to it being like eight hours of work equaling two days of life or something like that.
01:42:08.780I mean, for instance, my phone, I charge it for an hour and I get 15 hours of power.
01:42:13.080But that's not what I'm talking about.
01:42:13.820I'm talking how much work does a human being have to do to live for how much time?
01:42:16.980So in order to get access to food and water, you can do – I don't know what the number might be, but if you do eight hours of labor at the lowest level of the United States, you're going to get paid something like $50.
01:44:06.460Right now, the way the system works is there's a hierarchy of those who have access and control.
01:44:13.100And they can restrict to a certain—this is under the assumption that free energy or efficient energy exists.
01:44:19.380Someone who is—we want to go to Mars.
01:44:22.800Okay, well, in order to go to Mars, we need a massive amount of managerial power, intellectual power, and human labor to do all of that.
01:44:30.480We don't have robots to do it just yet.
01:44:32.420If tomorrow, however, anybody could just replicate whatever they wanted, 80% of people are just going to go jerk off, play video games, and eat food all day.
01:44:40.260Like, if you could just manifest—if the energy was basically free, imagine if we got to the point where one hour of human labor could produce enough energy for the entirety of a human life.
01:44:51.280That means for every human that exists, you only get one hour of labor.
01:44:54.920Now, you're going to be saying, we need 500 tons of cobalt in the rocket ship that we're going to build to get to Mars, but we can't because we've mass-produced food and shelter and resources.
01:45:07.620Humans no longer want to do the work to mine the cobalt.
01:45:10.960Hypothetically, you could fuse, you know, hydrogen into helium, into whatever you need to get the cobalt eventually, if you have enough electricity.
01:45:22.200Well, some system has to make it happen.
01:45:23.800Well, there's going to be a transition, right?
01:45:25.260Like, there'll be a transition, a point.
01:45:26.280What I'm saying is, I'm not describing a guy having to go into a mine with a pickaxe.
01:45:32.460I'm saying we develop technology to the point where, yes, it is a machine that will make the cobalt, but nobody needs to work to do it because energy production is so efficient that cheeseburgers manifest themselves.
01:45:45.860And we don't want to make ourselves obsolete.
01:46:58.920Like, what's going to happen is we're going to be going to Mars or other solar systems using electromagnetism, electromagnet-based technology and propulsion technologies, plasma and fusion propulsion technologies as well.
01:47:33.540Give the man the Oscar because he's saying, oh, I know Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, and if they had this technology, they would be competing against me.
01:48:32.400You'd be rich if you had a million in middle-class America.
01:48:34.760And his point was, no, no, once you have $7 million, this is back then, you can invest into systems where you will get money back from them and you will be rich forever.
01:48:45.140That was the threshold by which you are independently wealthy.
01:48:48.880You put it in the stock market, you put it in bonds, some other semi-liquid investments, and you'll be getting paid off those real estate.
01:48:56.480If that, so let's just say right now the market is $20 million.
01:48:59.820Once you have $20 million, you can buy real estate, you can create a portfolio where people are paying you rent, you can invest in the materials.
01:49:07.020That's all you actually need to be rich forever.
01:49:09.960What I mean is private jet rich, infinity pool rich, Ferrari rich.
01:49:36.080He wants the things that don't yet exist to get them.
01:49:40.300Regarding rocketry, I wonder about, because you brought up these drones, these orbs around the craft,
01:49:45.880maybe having some sort of electromagnetic, they're like as propulsion tubes, basically.
01:49:50.660They have something coming out the back and then coming out the front.
01:49:53.380So they're like little rail cannons, basically.
01:49:55.360And I wonder if, because I'm obsessed with this idea of a space elevator to get things into orbit,
01:49:59.360but what if we use drones that could fly into position, aim up, and just shoot shit straight up with magnetism in these magnetically affected chambers,
01:50:09.860like big boxes that are made of nickel or iron or whatever, and we just shoot them up into orbit through these drones that could just appear in place and then leave so there's no tether to get broken.
01:50:18.740That's what Frank Mead was trying to do.
01:50:20.380They were trying to find single-stage to orbit vehicles, and so they found just a clever use of electromagnetism in Lorentz forces with plasma in order to cause that lift to occur.
01:51:20.020And then there's also this concept of scalar wave, scalar beam, which would mean that if we take two out-of-phase waves that are exactly the same and they cancel each other out, is there nothing left?
01:51:31.340Classic electromagnetism, Maxwell's equation, would say there's nothing there.
01:51:55.600And that stress in the medium represents our space-time gravity ripple, potentially.
01:52:00.700So what Tom Beard and many other scientists found out was that they can actually make these scalar, like this cancellation effect with just a crystal in front of a laser.
01:52:09.480So you put a crystal in front of a laser, and now you've got this invisible electromagnetic beam.
01:52:14.160You can't measure this electromagnetic wave.
01:52:15.700But if I interfere these two beams like this at a distance, you'll see an interference occur, and where there was nothing before, something appears out of there because of the interference as well.
01:52:26.720So scalar physics, I think, is significantly important to this concept of interacting with the medium.
01:52:32.420And people say, oh, well, scalar is just a magnitude.
01:53:39.320I wonder what the absolute compression of technology could be.
01:53:47.160If we are making smaller and smaller technologies, we are creating systems that are getting so efficient that we've now got that speeder bike.
01:53:59.740Have you guys seen the speeder bike, the real world speeder bike?
01:54:01.640It's a guy, and he's riding this little box-looking thing with a seat on it, and he's flying around.
01:54:08.460And people, I forget what it's called.
01:54:09.580The people are like, can that be real?
01:59:22.560So, I try to say, hey, if you consider electricity, a gravity force is electricity, I'm going to show you why electricity, gravity force is getting less and less.