In this episode of Culture War Podcast, we discuss the growing number of veterans who are dissatisfied with the federal government and the way they are treated by the Department of Veterans Affairs. In this episode, we speak with three veterans who have been in the military for a long time and have a unique perspective on this topic.
00:25:52.540First of all, the embezzlement charge, because there was a contract between me and a client for a down payment, should have never been anything more than civil.
00:26:02.180There was no criminal case there at all.
00:26:05.920Second, they had zero evidence that I was involved or even knew that it had happened.
00:26:10.440And while I'm there, I'm signing documents.
00:26:13.720They're looking through my bank records.
00:31:11.280And I'm glad that you guys did the movie the way you did because otherwise I would have left the movie completely pissed off and unsatisfied.
00:31:19.120But there's a lot of comedy that's spread throughout the movie.
00:31:34.540I'm trying to piece together the story.
00:31:37.360I'm looking for what the actual, you know, you said that there was the accusation from someone else that was probably because of your former business partner.
00:31:50.500And I'm wondering, I'm trying to figure out if there was a pretense that you were arrested under or if there was something that they were actually interested in that was beyond what you were told.
00:32:05.580I wish I had some kind of crazy knowledge that somebody was trying to get to.
00:32:09.020At the end of the day, what I think happened is this pastor embezzled money from these people and convinced them that I had done it because I was out of the state already.
00:32:19.560He was just trying to get out from being in trouble.
00:32:21.540I guess what I'm looking for is some reason for the, you know, both the Broward County and the North Carolina Justice Departments to behave in the way that they did.
00:32:33.040Because if a story says, you know, if you're dealing with someone that has a negative interaction with the police,
00:32:39.640if there's one jurisdiction that is doing something that is, you know, wrong or is somehow behaving outside the law, that's understandable.
00:32:52.060For two different jurisdictions to be.
00:33:13.540So it was North Carolina that really wanted to get their hands on you.
00:33:16.180And I imagine Broward County would be unaware or uninterested in what it is that North Carolina was after.
00:33:24.800And so for them to show up with a SWAT team at your house on a domestic and then wrap you up when there was clearly no one else inside the house.
00:33:37.140You, you know, if, if, if someone calls in a domestic to, to actually be the impetus to get you into custody, I'm just trying to figure out, or, or I'm wondering what it is or wondering if there was something else that was going on or what the, you know, how it was that you could get both of these two separate jurisdictions to, to behave in such a, you know, nefarious ways.
00:37:44.520But the other one that was similar was they had two sets of groups of students that were from the same class.
00:37:50.380And one of them were the jailers, and the other one were the prisoners, and they were, like, locked in for, like, a period of time.
00:37:56.940And they found, you know, certain behaviors that developed in this environment.
00:38:02.560And so I think there's a real threat of that any time you have authority.
00:38:09.920And so that's why I think it's important for anybody who's in a position of authority, number one, there needs to be consequences if they abuse that authority, and it should be very severe, so that it puts a check on them.
00:38:21.560So they think, oh, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to overstep and violate this person's rights.
00:38:26.900And the problem is, is that, you know, in the case of what happened to Glenn, absolutely the FBI should have investigated that for deprivation of rights under color of law.
00:38:38.700And in some cases of where there's video or there's, you know, it becomes a national spectacle or something, they will get involved.
00:38:48.320But what about the FBI when they do it?
00:39:01.080Well, yeah, but, so, I mean, fair enough.
00:39:03.440But you haven't, there, there, you may, you know, you've got a movie out.
00:39:06.600Have you been in contact with any other lawyers interested in suing Broward County or suing North Carolina?
00:39:11.880I mean, I imagine if this, with this story, there's, you know, there's got to be plenty of evidence.
00:39:17.420And this seems like there's all kinds of room to, you know, at least attempt to get some kind of, you know, some kind of, you know, compensation for the, you know, the illegal, illegal actions of a, what amounts to, you know, small town abuse of power.
00:40:29.560That means nothing can be brought for, if you don't know, if it's dismissed with prejudice, that means that they can't bring the charges anymore.
00:40:36.520Or this is all just a garbage prosecution.
00:40:42.580But the attorneys that I did speak to had told me, the North Carolina attorneys especially, that the way their system is set up and the laws are set up in North Carolina, if you get out of jail alive, you really have no recourse.
00:41:20.920And I do think from the release of this movie, and it has nothing to do with why we've done it, but somebody's going to see this and say, you know what, I think I can help.
00:41:30.320Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's – and, I mean, hopefully someone watching will, you know, know someone or something like that because the story that you outlined, it does seem like that kind of abuse of power is ripe for a lawsuit.
00:41:45.740And, you know, this is the United States where there is no shortage of, you know, lawyers.
00:41:52.200There are plenty of lawyers in the U.S.
00:41:53.820And I would imagine there would be someone motivated to – especially, you know, considering what seems like such an open and shut case.
00:42:07.640Being held for 23 days not knowing why you were being held, not allowed to see an attorney, don't see a judge for eight days when the judge does give you a court order.
00:42:16.920So you couldn't see an attorney for almost three weeks, huh?
00:42:20.060You never had the option of seeing an attorney.
00:42:21.500I had nobody to call, had nobody to call, had no money, couldn't get a hold of an attorney on my own.
00:42:30.020And then when the judge gave the court order, they wouldn't access my cell phone, so I couldn't get it that way.
00:42:36.060And then they didn't give me an attorney.
00:42:38.240See, by law, you get an attorney when you're arrested.
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00:47:30.440It's a vision of freedom, but it's nothing tangible.
00:47:34.680Our freedoms are very, very fragile right now.
00:47:38.540And I want to help spread that word to people, not to cause people to have fear, but for them to pay attention that freedom isn't free, Phil, but it's also not cheap.
00:49:29.700Turned in like an hour, two-hour interview.
00:49:31.980And of course, you know, they had to edit it and all of that.
00:49:34.600But it—my story is one that I think a lot of people probably haven't heard.
00:49:39.700And a lot of that is because of what I was just talking about, is that after you go through a traumatic experience, kind of the last thing you want to do is extend it.
00:49:52.720You want to get back to some semblance of normality.
00:49:55.120And in my case, what happened was I've worked basically for the government either through—I was a soldier, and then I ended up going to work for the Defense Department as both a contractor and as a government employee for most of my career.
00:50:12.980And I was actually working for Marfor Cyber, which is the—they basically—we were doing hacking, essentially, going after hackers, hacking our national critical infrastructure.
00:50:25.100And I had some great training at the NSA, had been read on to things like FISA and, you know, all these intelligence authorities and everything.
00:50:32.540And it was like, you know, kind of a really exciting time in my career.
00:50:36.520And then I got an offer I just couldn't refuse.
00:50:39.460The FBI, a contractor, called me and they said, hey, we want somebody with your skills, and we've had a hard time filling this position.
00:50:49.000You know, would you please consider interviewing?
00:52:44.060So, you know, right around 2017, I started seeing things that were, you know, that was when you started seeing the FBI was investigating everything,
00:52:53.920or sorry, the Congress was investigating everything from Uranium One to Benghazi to the Hillary Clinton email server.
00:53:01.040All these things and these scandals started, you know, happening.
00:53:04.940And one day I walk into the office, and I worked in Washington, D.C., not at the J. Edgar Hoover Building, at a non-disclosed location where the information assurance division was.
00:53:16.600And my job was, I was hired to, as a subject matter expert in cybersecurity, to architect and implement and deploy a new vulnerability management system that would be across the FBI enterprise-wide.
00:53:30.380All their, you know, their field offices and satellite divisions and everything.
00:53:35.600So it was a pretty huge, you know, contract.
00:53:38.560And, but I come in one day, and my government supervisor is having a, you know, kind of a hushed conversation with one of my colleagues.
00:53:48.760And so, you know, we were all, you know, I had a good relationship.
00:53:51.580I walk over, I'm like, hey, what's going on?
00:53:53.460And he tells me that he's seen these transcripts, or that he had heard about these transcripts that somebody had seen,
00:54:01.500where we had an internal system within the FBI where, you know, any communications, it's kind of like Zoom, you know, but it's all on the classified side.
00:54:09.760And the FBI has the most advanced document retention system I've ever seen, including when you have those conversations, it records it and then transcribes it and then dumps those transcripts.
00:54:24.320Well, apparently somebody had seen those transcripts of a conversation from the folks on the seventh floor.
00:54:29.380That's where all the leadership of the FBI is.
00:54:32.440And they were talking about the investigation into Hillary.
00:54:35.720And what they saw, or what the words that were, you know, all throughout this thing were words like treason.
00:54:43.520They were saying things like, this is too big.
00:54:46.080It was so big that it could, you know, bring down the government.
00:54:49.100They were talking about things like that they were going to basically shut down their investigation because they were concerned.
00:54:56.520They thought for sure she was going to be president.
00:54:58.620I mean, this is what everybody believed.
00:55:00.100And they thought there was going to be retribution.
00:55:01.780So they decided to cover up these crimes by essentially making these investigations go away.
00:55:08.420So when I hear this, I've taken that oath.
00:55:21.500And because I do believe, I've got a firm belief that someday I'm going to stand before my maker and he's going to, you know, he's going to ask me about these things.
00:55:28.800And that it's not just when we do evil things, that that alone is not evil.
00:55:37.600You know, along with that is when we know that we can do good and we don't do good, that's just as bad.
00:55:45.020And so I had to pray long and hard about it because I knew this was going to be a career killer for me.
00:55:50.940You know, I knew that this was going to end my career, potentially cause me, you know, harm to my freedom, possibly cause harm to my health, and certainly, you know, cause emotional distress probably for my family.
00:56:05.520But I prayed long and hard about it, and I did go and I searched.
00:56:09.200You know, I had access, so I went and I searched into their databases, and I looked for if there was any truth to these things that were being said.
00:56:16.340And I didn't discover those transcripts because by the time that I worked up the courage to look for it, those had probably already been compartmentalized.
00:56:24.320But what I found was I found a ton of evidentiary documents, including suspicious activity reports and things like that, where the FBI had been investigating with three different field offices.
00:56:37.140You had Little Rock, Arkansas, New York City field office, and the Washington field office had three separate investigations that were opened into Hillary Clinton.
00:56:46.860They had a ton of these documents that had basically showed the entire money trail.
00:56:52.440And you had four crimes that were listed on these documents that, you know, basically that they had identified.
00:56:58.720Money laundering, public corruption, securities and exchange fraud, and terrorism financing.
00:57:39.080And then you'll remember Comey comes out in front of the J. Edgar Hoover building, and he calls for a press conference.
00:57:46.660And then he's talking about the email server.
00:57:49.900And he's saying, oh, yes, you know, we investigated.
00:57:53.780Now we found thousands of, you know, classified documents on these email server, even after she, you know, bleach-bitted, you know, was it 30,000 emails or whatever it was?
00:58:05.500So, which that in and of itself is a crime.
00:58:08.540I mean, listen, I've had subpoenas come to me for documents in 27 years working for the government.
00:58:15.760There have been some times where I had gotten an email, you know, from, you know, from the security saying, hey, don't delete anything in your email because we have a, you know, a leak or a spill or something like that, and we need to come examine it.
00:58:31.860So I, you know, threat of going to jail, absolutely, I'm not going to do anything.
00:58:59.500Top secret is the highest clearance, but then you have what they have called compartmentalization.
00:59:03.300In my career, I've only maybe a couple times been read on to, you know, SAPs, and SAPs are no joke.
00:59:11.980Like, when you go to review these documents that are in a folder with a cover sheet, I don't get to handle these until I'm in a secured space.
00:59:22.280Now, I worked in a SCIF, but even in the SCIF, where everybody in there has a top secret clearance, I can't have these at my desk.
00:59:29.720All right, because they don't want somebody walking by and shoulder surfing and seeing what's in there because they don't have a need to know.
00:59:36.220So, in that case, what happens is you go to your security officer.
00:59:39.900They, first of all, check to see if you're on the list.
00:59:42.560Then they, you know, they do the combination, open up the safe, pull out that document, sign it out, hand carry it with you to a safe room where you can review these documents.
00:59:54.080And so, you're never, you're basically, the only time you're ever alone with these documents is when you're sitting in this, like, little secured area.
01:00:00.780And so, the fact that there were seven of those, seven email chains with these saps on them in her personal private, private email server in her home, there's no way you even get those out of a SCIF and out of the hands of the, you know, security manager without knowingly violating the law.
01:00:20.360So, you're saying this was, this was part of the 33,000 emails that were deleted off her Gmail?
01:05:27.560Well, because it was classified and maybe they thought they could just compartmentalize it, but somebody saw those transcripts and then, you know, basically.
01:05:38.080Well, if it's on record, Nate, won't somebody see it eventually?
01:05:41.820Well, I mean, apparently that hasn't really mattered because now here we are almost a decade later, you know, and nobody's actually been, never mind been charged, but, I mean, never mind gone to jail or anything, but nobody's even been charged.
01:05:56.680There's been no, you know, there's been nothing from the DOJ, even Donald Trump, who, you know, was the famous for lock her up, lock her up, you know, even his DOJ did nothing.
01:06:49.980But back to the story, what happened after that was I ended up not knowing how to get this stuff out of there.
01:06:58.580Because basically, as I started reviewing these documents, the names that are on a lot of these documents, people that knew about it, that were in the know, so they had to have been involved in somehow in the cover-up.
01:07:08.340There were James Comey, you had Rod Rosenstein, who's the deputy attorney general, because he was the U.S. attorney at the time of Uranium One, and a lot of the documents were about that and what happened with that.
01:07:22.920Uranium One was a Canadian mining company that basically was given permission by the CFIUS committee, who Hillary Clinton was the chair of, to purchase—or sorry, to be purchased by a Russian energy company called Rosatom.
01:07:40.560Now, the problem is, is the FBI knew before that decision was made that Rosatom was basically an agent of the Russian government.
01:07:51.280They had all of the evidence, they had an intelligence report that basically showed this, and it was from, you know, like 2009 or something like that.
01:08:01.100And it showed that they were involved in a bribery and kickback scheme trying to infiltrate our uranium supply chain.
01:08:08.020So they know this before they allow for this sell to happen.
01:08:11.940And the FBI director at the time that that went on, Robert Mueller, who was the deputy at that time, James Comey.
01:08:21.260So basically, you're talking like a huge, huge scandal here.
01:08:26.500And so I end up—I can't go through my normal chain of command to blow the whistle.
01:08:32.140I couldn't go through the ICIG either because Michael Atkinson, who's the intelligence community inspector general at the time, at the time of the Uranium One thing, he's the guy who's the head of the public corruption unit for the FBI, which means he's in the know.
01:09:07.140Julian Assange, and, you know, you'd already seen Snowden.
01:09:10.580You already had plenty of evidence that you leaked something to the press, you're going to jail, or you're going to have to leave your country and flee.
01:09:18.600So there's no way in hell I'm going to jeopardize, you know, myself in that way.
01:09:22.900And so I just—but I knew the one option that I had, and I went and I looked at the federal law, and I'm like, okay, well, who can I go through if I don't go through this normal whistleblower process?
01:09:32.740Well, there was a law in the books that said that anybody who is a senior staffer to either the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence or the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence,
01:09:43.640they could take classified information from anyone without any question, and I had a courier card, meaning I could carry classified documents out of the FBI anywhere so long as I was authorized.
01:09:56.220So what I did in a roundabout way to kind of protect myself was I reached out through a secondary person to get to Devin Nunez and reached out to his office.
01:10:07.940We set up a meet, clandestine meeting, and his senior staffer, George Pappas—now, interestingly enough, at the time, Devin Nunez had two senior staffers.
01:10:22.520So the likelihood that Cash has seen these documents is very high, and so I hope something good will come out of this eventually.
01:10:30.580But I ended up meeting with George Pappas.
01:10:34.840We went and picked him up, drove around the Capitol for about three hours while I debriefed him.
01:10:40.940I had everything on a thumb drive, and I handed it over to him.
01:10:44.740And then he says to me, look, do you have anything more on—because most of what I had was suspicious activity reports that had been analyzed.
01:10:54.340And he goes, do you have anything more specifically about Uranium-1?
01:10:57.980We're investigating this, and we're getting stonewalled by the FBI.
01:11:02.820And he says, there's rumors that there is an intelligence report that would give the dates and times of what the FBI knew and when they knew it.
01:11:11.540Would you be willing to go back in and get that information for us?
01:13:27.660So we meet at St. Michael's Church, and he basically tells me, yeah, you're basically in the same situation as Snowden, except you haven't left the country.
01:13:42.100And I think at that point my face turned white, you know, and I realized, oh, man, I am in some serious trouble here.
01:13:48.760And then he asks me, he goes, are you independently wealthy?
01:14:52.420And we got on our knees, and we prayed and prayed and prayed.
01:14:56.540And two days later, I get a phone call from this attorney, and he tells me, he says, I went down to Nashville to talk to a woman who's, you know, independently wealthy.
01:15:09.480And she's, you know, she's an older woman.
01:29:29.220And he's like, what did I tell you if the FBI shop don't say nothing?
01:29:32.400And I'm just like, ah, you know, sorry, man.
01:29:35.900The assumption is that they're there to do something, you know, good work, that you're protected.
01:29:40.820And so it does make sense as to why people do that.
01:29:45.100But yeah, any time the government is at your door, don't talk to them unless you get a lawyer.
01:29:49.020So the next thing that happens is, of course, we immediately get in touch with, you know, our defense attorney that we had spoken to ahead of time just in case this kind of thing happens.
01:30:00.380And that, she ends up asking for the search warrant.
01:30:13.940I've never seen a search warrant before.
01:30:15.740So I have no idea if what they gave me is legit or not.
01:30:18.100You want to go ahead and lay out what a Schedule B is?
01:30:19.420Schedule B is what tells you what they're allowed to take.
01:30:22.920And I'm like, they never gave me that.
01:30:26.300You know, I only had the, you know, basically the front page of the, you know, thing.
01:30:29.920So I think they did give me the Schedule A, which says where they can search, but it doesn't, the Schedule B is what says what they can take.
01:30:36.280And I know why they did not give me the Schedule B, because they took things that were not on the list, like my wife's, you know, some of my wife's journals.
01:30:45.780I haven't even looked at her journals.
01:30:47.980And, but based on the things that they took, it was clear what they were trying to set up.
01:30:51.420They were trying to set up, you know, this, that I'm like some anti-government, you know, you know, conspiracist that I'm, you know, selling secrets to, you know, enemies or something like that or whatever.
01:31:03.160Did they take your copy of A Catcher in the Rye?
01:31:05.420No, but they took my copy of a book about a government conspiracy that had been written by a guy, Bill Still.
01:31:16.380And it was, he had written about a conspiracy by Nixon to overtake, you know, the government to basically, to plan a coup.
01:31:25.060And his father had been involved in that case.
01:31:27.360And so he had written a book about it and had signed it.
01:31:31.560But they, that was the only book they took.
01:31:34.540And so I knew at that point they had been surveilling me because my point of contact in getting me in touch with Devin Nunez was Bill Still.
01:32:10.340But, but I, I, I end up, it took almost a year to get to the point of being able to get those documents into the hands of, of both the intel committees.
01:32:22.100And then, you know, like I said, five months later, they're raiding me, but they had been, I hadn't seen the signals.
01:32:26.540I already knew I was being surveilled because I had all of the.
01:33:00.820I mean, it's like, it's really a bad situation for me, but, but I, I end up, uh, this guy, uh, the, the lead FBI agent who's involved goes on his own personal, um, witch hunt, starts going and interviewing neighbors and friends and people, and not just interviewing them and asking them benign questions.
01:33:22.940He's asking them questions that are kind of like painting this impression of who I am that he's not.
01:33:39.880He's asking, you know, he's asking, you know, leading questions.
01:33:43.540Uh, the guy's destroying my reputation in the small community of Union Bridge, you know, where I'm at.
01:33:48.800Um, he's, when he doesn't get any dirt on me, he then starts going after my kids.
01:33:54.460Um, he goes, you know, they've been spying on me now, you know, at this point for who knows how long, I'm guessing probably two to three weeks before the raid, they, they probably had surveillance taps on me and everything.
01:34:05.680But, and I had, do you have any sense of what kind of surveillance, uh, were they monitoring your, was it like wiretaps monitoring your, your emails and stuff or what do you think?
01:34:14.360Like, all, I know, I know for a fact that they had access to all of my social media, even private messaging, uh, they had access to my phone, uh, they had access to, they were listening to my conversations.
01:34:25.760Uh, the reason I know that, by the way, is my, my lawyer, the day before they raided, he calls me up and he's like, hey, um, you know, he starts off every conversation I ever have with him on the phone.
01:34:36.640You know, uh, you know, this is a attorney-client privilege conversation, blah, blah, blah.
01:34:41.260And he says it just in case anybody's listening, they don't care.
01:34:44.700So, but he says that, and then he says, he says, hey, we need to get that thumb drive out of your house and somewhere safe now that we're done, you know, doing all of this.
01:34:54.740And he says, so let's talk tomorrow about where we can, you know, where we can do that.
01:35:04.060So in the morning, like it was 9am the next morning.
01:35:07.540And it started with two people show up and I knew it was FBI a moment they pulled in because they had that, you know, standard FBI haircut.
01:35:13.380And walk, they get out of a white car, you know, and, and they, you know, sedan and they walk up to my door.
01:35:19.600And so, you know, when I let him in, the moment he pulls out the search warrant, all of a sudden, you know, what, 14 more of them show up in my driveway.
01:35:31.320So is it illegal at that point in your protected status and everything, is it illegal to, to surveil you or is it customary?
01:35:58.660But the other thing that was really strange was the Daily Caller breaks the story because the, the New York Times gets a tip and somebody at the Daily Caller had a spy inside New York Times and they were going to write a hit piece on me the next day.
01:36:13.120So he contacts my lawyer like midnight, like, Hey, I've got word that, you know, your client's going to have a hit piece written on them the next day.
01:36:20.620And in, uh, New York Times, would you please, um, you know, consider, uh, you know, giving me an exclusive and we'll let you get your side of the story out.
01:36:29.540So he reluctantly agrees and he gives them an interview.
01:36:33.440Um, if you do a search for, uh, Dennis Nathan Cain whistleblower and, and you'll find it.
01:36:40.040But, um, but yeah, so he ends up, he ends up basically giving this interview and then his story breaks, you know, nationwide, you know, international news even.
01:36:49.840And, um, uh, but yeah, they, somebody leaked my name to the press and the Daily Caller then does a follow-up and they do, um, they, yeah, that's the article right there.
01:37:02.080Uh, they do a follow-up where they actually do a FOIA request to the magistrate that signed off on the search warrant and get this, a Clinton appointed federal judge put a seal on an answer to a question that they had their lawyers look at and meticulously come up.
01:37:19.580The lawyers had come up with one question that they would ask that they, they found that there was no justification for holding back information on.
01:37:26.500And it was, it was, uh, was the judge notified that Dennis Nathan Cain was a protective whistleblower under the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act?
01:37:36.180And a Clinton appointed judge puts a seal on that answer, and then she seals her justification for putting a seal on that answer.
01:37:44.240I mean, it doesn't get more corrupt than that.
01:37:46.240And, and a long, you know, and it's a long story, but to, to just kind of wrap it up, they, this agent basically makes my life a living hell.
01:37:57.240He, he, of course, was, uh, spying on me, listening to, you know, he, he knows that my son is 18, uh, one of my sons is 18, and, you know, we're having that typical, you know, parental adult, you know, uh, uh, issues that are going on.
01:38:20.120And so he goes after my son, tries to work that, okay, get, you know, tries to talk him into wearing a wire against me.
01:38:30.200And the only reason I know is because my son and I have mended things and he told me, you know, what happened.
01:38:34.660And while he's basically being, um, he's under a, a polygraph cause he's trying to get into NSA, he gets, you know, bamboozled by these guys coming in there.
01:38:45.420And, uh, you know, this guy interrogating him.
01:38:48.880Um, he ends up, you know, it's just, it was horrible what happened.
01:38:52.480Uh, they pulled my, my daughter out of her class in high school.
01:38:55.800You know, she's a senior, they pull her out and, uh, some, you know, some, uh, uh, uh, uh, investigator from the sheriff's department, local sheriff's department's asking her questions like, you know, is your dad ever, you know, touched you in your, you know, private places and all this stuff.
01:39:11.260And, and, and, and we're like, what the heck is going on here?
01:39:14.640So, so basically, uh, we finally tracked down what happened and, and they had said, oh yeah, we've already closed the case.
01:39:22.440We talked to your daughter, sorry, you know, my wife's insistent on, no, I want to know who did this, where did this come from?
01:39:29.060And, and they tell her, well, we can't say who, but all we can say is that there was a law enforcement tip.
01:39:38.040And, and at this point, um, I finally get sick of it.
01:39:43.140And, and the last thing that, that, that happened was, uh, my son, my, the one with autism, you know, he gets, uh, they come after him and, you know, and it doesn't matter.
01:41:02.340I'm not so sure that it would be very weird considering the way that the justice department behaves nowadays.
01:41:06.000He was, he was doing things off of, uh, off book without a doubt.
01:41:09.460And because one of the people that he interrogated, um, called me and told me that like when he told this guy, you know, to basically leave his property.
01:41:18.440And then as he's walking away and he goes, you know, why are you guys always trying to ruin, you know, people's lives?
01:41:23.740And, and the guy turns around and goes, Oh, you just watched too much Fox news.
01:41:37.900And I, I talked to some, I saw friends and I talked to some people and I asked them, I said, Hey, what, you know, what's going on?
01:41:43.300And I, I even, um, I got confirmed to me from somebody out of the, the, the Baltimore field office that the, that they lied on the search warrant in order to get, you know, the search warrant.
01:41:55.720So they, they basically, you know, it was full blown lies and fabrication.
01:41:58.900So, but, but it's like this world, you know, of the classified is, it's a dangerous world, right?
01:42:07.900Because, you know, how do you, how do you even go public with something like that and not end up like Snowden or, or, you know, Julian Assange or, you know, Manning or it's just, it's, it's a very difficult problem because you have essentially, they can cloak anything, right?
01:42:24.420By just classifying, and this is what, this is what Kash Patel has been talking about, is that they over classify things and they do that on purpose.
01:42:32.220And so in the end, um, um, the, probably the, the scariest moment, you know, aside from the FBI showing up at my house was, uh, I ended up getting poisoned twice.
01:42:46.900Um, I had the lug nuts on my car loosened right before we went on a long trip.
01:42:51.440Um, I had surveillance drones, you know, landing in my backyard.
01:43:15.960I get in my car and I'm driving home from DC because at this point I had taken a job with, um, uh, with the defense contract and I'm working, you know, for the name.
02:01:33.120The good stuff is when I was a kid and we get to go outside and play until the lights come on and then we go home, you're not worried about being trafficked.
02:01:43.600You're not worried about being drive-by shot.
02:01:47.040You're not worrying about all that crap.
02:01:48.580The wholesomeness, the goodness of freedom.
02:01:50.860So we've developed this movie to help maybe make that a step that can happen for America and for me personally.
02:02:14.400You know, the quote, all that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.
02:02:22.600My challenge to anybody that's watching this is to remember that.
02:02:27.500And when they see something, you know, don't just say something, do something about it.
02:02:31.920You know, don't ignore it because we are where we are today in terms of the wrong that is going on in this country because of complacency.
02:02:41.720And we're all guilty of it, even myself.
02:02:45.280When we have an opportunity to do something about it, we should.
02:02:48.800And we owe it to all of those that have come before us and that have, you know, paid the ultimate sacrifice for this country and for our freedoms.
02:02:58.200So that's one of the things that I appreciate about this movie is that it has a positive, you know, it has a positive push in there.
02:03:06.540And I think that we can do something about it.
02:03:44.160And if you're watching this and you don't already know that, you know, the main people that have been in Hollywood for the last several decades are pedophiles and baby killers and all these things.
02:03:59.220If you don't already know that, newsflash, that's what's happening.
02:04:03.020These elitists like Puff Daddy and all these people that are now it's finally coming out.
02:04:08.040These are the people that have been running an entertainment industry for a long time.
02:04:11.160And when you are living in a society like we are where the dollar is king and you get to vote with your money, like if you believe something, when you believe in something, whether it's an American company or whatever, and you spend your money there, that's how you vote and that's how you get rid of garbage, right?
02:04:29.580So when you go to watch these Hollywood movies and just consume and entertain yourself with pedophiles and garbage people, you're voting to say, I want that and I like that and I want more of that in our country.
02:04:43.660Or you could go to finish this fight.us.
02:04:47.300You could buy this movie for $11 and show those people and show the world that we want the truth.
02:04:54.600We want to actually invest in good quality entertainment made by good quality people and instead of perpetuating the trash that's out there, start to create some new awesome content.
02:05:10.660And look, we're going to make government espionage feature films based on true stories.
02:05:17.180Nate Kane's story starring Travis Conover.
02:05:19.980And we are going to make that movie and that's going to be an awesome government espionage badass thriller that people are going to go and watch as entertainment, but it's going to have true real life stories behind it.
02:05:31.680But when you go and you buy this movie and you buy the other things that I'm making and people like me are making, you're voting for that and you're saying that's what I want.
02:05:39.660You're voting for the Donald Trump of film industry, right?
02:05:42.740The Donald Trump of entertainment and movie making and we're going to start exporting positive culture to the world.
02:05:48.020I'm so sick of what we're exporting now, which is just garbage.
02:05:52.580It is we want Dwayne Johnson's next piece of content that has no soul, no life and is terribly acted or we want to vote for something good.
02:06:02.080So if you have $11, the movie I think is worth way more than that, but I think it'd be a great thing to watch.
02:06:08.380And you're also voting that you want more of this in the world.
02:06:11.100So that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
02:06:13.560I do have a spoiler about the movie, though, and we're talking about garbage and things like that in Hollywood.
02:06:18.840He, as a director, did convince me to do a topless scene.
02:06:23.940It was necessary for the story, Glenn.