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00:00:57.060 How's it going, everybody? Welcome to the Culture War Podcast. We got an awesome show.

00:01:02.600 We're hanging out with some really cool people. Right now, there's a big news story around whether

00:01:06.680 or not Kamala Harris can maintain or support in the black community. Donald Trump apparently is

00:01:11.200 doing better than ever with young black men, and this could sink Kamala Harris. We don't know for

00:01:17.300 sure what's going to happen. A lot of people, you know, they said at 2016, 2020, that Trump's improving

00:01:21.440 dramatically with the black vote. But we've got some people here, probably experts, I guess,

00:01:25.900 considering one of your first videos, or I don't know about one of your first videos,

00:01:29.900 but let me put it this way. Shout out to my mom. She's a huge fan of you guys.

00:01:33.780 Oh, wow. Huge fan. And she said that from back in the day, she watched you guys listening to

00:01:41.080 Thunderstruck from ACDC. Oh. And she loved it because she's an ACDC fan. This is the music

00:01:47.360 she listened to, and then she sees you guys listening to her music, and it feels good. You

00:01:51.280 know, it's like, hey, they like what I like, and they're discovering it for the first time.

00:01:53.800 She loves that. And you had a BLM poster. We did. Yeah. We did. Now you're Trump supporters.

00:01:58.540 Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's start. I don't know who wants to go first. You guys

00:02:03.520 and introduce yourself. Yeah. I'm Brock. Brock Appiah. I'm from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Part

00:02:08.760 of the Cartier family. Yeah. 25, almost 26 years old, and just trying to make my way through

00:02:15.700 life and figure this out. Yeah, man. I'm Solomon from Houston, Texas. I mean, we all met running

00:02:20.680 track and field together, and, you know, we're here. Excited. My name is Taj Whitfield. I'm from

00:02:26.600 Clarksville, Tennessee. Just excited just to be here. It's a blessing. Right on. Yeah. No, I'm Brandon

00:02:31.840 Monroe, from Oklahoma City, like Brock. Yeah. And we just met running track and start shooting

00:02:38.360 videos, and here we are. That's amazing. Yeah. So, I mean, again, I shout out my mom saying

00:02:44.260 that she started watching you guys, not even political. It was just fun to see people enjoying

00:02:47.880 music. You guys are a lot younger than she is. So it makes her feel good. And then all

00:02:52.180 of a sudden, because she's definitely supporting Trump. Not always, though. A few years ago, she

00:02:56.000 was not, maybe longer than a few years ago. But to see you guys evolve, she likes you even

00:03:00.920 more. And she's like, I watch them all the time. She's so excited. She called me when

00:03:04.040 she found out you guys are coming on the show. But how does this happen? Like, first, like,

00:03:07.700 how do you guys start a YouTube channel? And how does it become to the point where you're

00:03:11.220 like, Trump?

00:03:13.020 Oh, you want to go?

00:03:14.540 I mean, we were just reacting to music, man. The COVID hit. And really, what happened,

00:03:20.060 I think, Officer Tatum, we've seen one of his videos pop up. And I was like, who is this

00:03:24.340 guy? You know? And I clicked it. And I think it was Vivek Ramaswamy, Vivek Ramaswamy cooking Don

00:03:29.100 Lemon. And we were like, you know, it was pretty cool. It was fun to watch. So we were

00:03:33.140 like, yeah, this is pretty cool. So we did. We just started reacting to Officer Tatum

00:03:36.020 only. And then Thomas O. Yeah, well, we got Thomas O. Thomas O really did it.

00:03:41.220 Thomas O flipped the book for real for us.

00:03:43.740 Yeah, no, he really did.

00:03:44.660 Oh, that dude's a legend.

00:03:45.400 No, he is.

00:03:46.240 We did his video on, like, he explained, like, how black culture came to what it is.

00:03:51.240 That's probably one of our best videos. He's got a mill. And I think that really opened

00:03:54.160 our mind up to, like, maybe things are a little differently than we've been led to believe.

00:04:00.380 Yeah.

00:04:00.580 And then Officer Tatum was another thing. We just, like, agreed with everything he said.

00:04:04.260 It was like, okay, this is controversial, but, like, it's real talk he's saying.

00:04:08.060 Right. And that's the thing, too. It's like, if this guy just tells you the truth, why is

00:04:11.980 it controversial? What he's saying is not wrong.

00:04:14.440 No, facts. Facts.

00:04:15.720 So tell me about the Thomas O stuff.

00:04:17.540 So, yeah, no. So we watched the Thomas O video. I remember, like, so people, when we used

00:04:22.220 to do, like, other reactions, people would request stuff in the comments. And I remember

00:04:25.420 people kept saying, do Thomas O, do Thomas O, do Thomas O. So one day, we were, like,

00:04:31.340 we would come out of class every day at, like, 8, 9 p.m., and we would record four videos

00:04:36.100 a day, every day. And I remember we needed a video, and I was like, we should just do

00:04:40.040 the Thomas O. They keep asking for it.

00:04:42.220 And we did it. And we were in there for, like, I think this was, like, almost an hour-long

00:04:45.640 video. And the video we reacted to was, like, 15 minutes, I think. 15, 20 minutes.

00:04:49.740 And we were in there for an hour, just going back and forth, like, mind-blown.

00:04:53.540 And it was just crazy. Like, he just opened our mind up to, like, maybe, like, conservatism

00:04:58.160 isn't what we've been led to believe. Because, you know, as young men, especially in our generation,

00:05:02.860 they tell you Republicans are bad, Republicans are racist. But that's just, like, what being

00:05:07.480 conservative is, is being, like, mostly on the right. So he just kind of opened our mind

00:05:12.060 up to the idea that this is normal. Like, it's not what you've been told.

00:05:16.600 You guys had never, had you ever watched Thomas O before that?

00:05:19.380 No.

00:05:19.880 You know, they get you in the comments, like, hey, watch this. And then you're like, whoa.

00:05:23.980 Yeah, literally.

00:05:24.880 The crazy part, he reacted to us, too.

00:05:26.880 He did.

00:05:27.380 I watched us react to him. He was surprised.

00:05:29.680 He seemed pretty unfazed, though.

00:05:31.380 Yeah, he started smiling. They were like, you're affecting the next generation. He said,

00:05:34.380 ah, it's great, ah.

00:05:36.380 Another thing, too, that I would say, um, when we first started reacting, we would react

00:05:40.580 to, um, Tom McDonald a lot.

00:05:42.780 Oh, yeah.

00:05:43.280 And he would kind of, like, have messages that would, like, resonate with us. And, like,

00:05:47.880 he would say things that, like, typically a younger black person wouldn't really agree

00:05:52.280 with. And we would hear it and be like, well, that's actually the truth. So for me, that's

00:05:56.780 kind of why my mind started kind of changing in that direction. Because it was like, we

00:06:00.780 were positive, but he just said this and that.

00:06:02.780 Yeah.

00:06:03.280 But low key, that is true, what he just said. And that's when I started thinking, like,

00:06:06.780 you know. And I remember me and Taj one day, when Trump, in 2020, when Trump lost the election,

00:06:12.780 we were sitting in the House, and we were just like, we just, like, just started kind

00:06:17.780 of even thinking about politics at all. I didn't even think about voting or anything.

00:06:21.780 And I wasn't, like, hard either way. But, like, I was kind of like everybody else. I

00:06:26.780 was just like, yeah, I guess, you know, since I'm black, I'm a Democrat. And then that's

00:06:30.780 when I just had a feeling. I was like, Taj, I just feel like it wasn't good that he just

00:06:34.780 lost that. I was like, I feel like, I don't know. I feel like this was a mistake. He was

00:06:37.780 like, yeah, I feel like that, too. Here we are now.

00:06:40.780 I definitely want to ask about that, the Democrat thing. But I do want to go back to Thomas

00:06:44.660 Soule real quick, because you were saying that he was saying something like that black culture

00:06:48.780 is not supposed to be this way. Or, like, what do you mean by that? Like,

00:06:51.780 what was he saying?

00:06:52.780 I don't know what exactly he said, but he was bringing the redneck culture into it.

00:06:57.780 The root cause of where it came from.

00:06:58.780 Yeah, he said, like, the ghetto black culture, the subculture is what he referred to it as.

00:07:03.780 He said it comes from, like, European rednecks who were poor and blacks were among them after

00:07:08.780 slavery. So, like, kind of being ghetto, they kind of adopted it because they were poor and

00:07:13.780 blacks were poor. And that was just kind of how they adopted it. And he was basically

00:07:17.780 saying, like, that's not what real black culture is, but it's uplifted as black culture. It's

00:07:21.780 really, like, a subculture within black culture. And he was just basically saying, like, how,

00:07:26.780 like, it's adopted as, like, something that's normal when it's really negative.

00:07:30.780 It was, like, really deep. And I remember we were just sitting there, like, it's so real.

00:07:35.780 Like, he's really breaking it down. Like, to hear from someone like him, like, who's a way

00:07:39.780 older God than us, it's okay. So, we're not really tripping when we say that this is bad

00:07:44.780 and, like, this ain't really how we're supposed to be. But yeah, no, that really just opened

00:07:48.780 our mind up to it. We watched a couple of his videos and he just, the way he just breaks

00:07:52.780 stuff down was really easy to digest.

00:07:54.780 He's a genius.

00:07:55.780 Definitely.

00:07:56.780 But there's a conspiracy theory that racists intentionally promoted negative culture to

00:08:04.780 black communities through rap music. And I'm not saying rap music itself is bad. I'm

00:08:09.780 saying they put messages in there like, get drunk, bang women, buy drugs and all that stuff

00:08:15.780 so that young men growing up would chase after something that was detrimental.

00:08:18.780 100%.

00:08:19.780 That's a fact.

00:08:20.780 Oh, that's facts. Yeah.

00:08:21.780 That's 100% facts. Especially in the black community.

00:08:22.780 I don't know if this is a fact, but I've heard several times, like, some of the same

00:08:25.780 people who own some of these record labels own some prisons. So, it's like, you're trying

00:08:29.780 to get them from here to there.

00:08:30.780 Yeah.

00:08:31.780 I don't know if that's a factor.

00:08:32.780 In fact, check me on that, but that's what I've heard.

00:08:34.780 And then, hearing Lyndon B. Johnson say we'll have black people wrapped around the

00:08:37.780 Democrat Party for 200 years.

00:08:39.780 Yeah.

00:08:40.780 I think it was funny.

00:08:41.780 A long time.

00:08:42.780 It's actually crazy, speaking of that, it's actually crazy, like, the backlash you receive for, like, just

00:08:47.780 being black and not saying, like, saying you don't want to be a Democrat. Like, it is insane.

00:08:52.780 What's it like?

00:08:53.780 Oh, man. It's like, we get, like, most of it, it's all online. Never in person. In person, it's always love.

00:08:58.780 It's always love.

00:08:59.780 Always in person.

00:09:00.780 Literally.

00:09:01.780 They ain't about that in person.

00:09:02.780 It's never in person. I wouldn't start by saying that. But online, we get Coon, Trader, Sellout, all this stuff.

00:09:10.780 And, like, they be saying we grifting, like, we just saying this for money. The whole time, we dead serious.

00:09:13.780 Like, you ask any one of us, I know for a fact, you ask any of us, what we say on camera, we'll tell you the same thing off camera.

00:09:18.780 Like, we're not on their BS and we're keeping it 100. But people think, like, just because we have such an audience, we're just saying it for clicks.

00:09:27.780 Yeah.

00:09:28.780 I think, I know for a fact, we're keeping it 100.

00:09:30.780 I remember when we first started, the political content, people were like, yep, I mean, this is a business plan at this point.

00:09:36.780 I'm like, wow.

00:09:37.780 Yeah, yeah, that is crazy.

00:09:39.780 Dude, these people are nuts, man. The idea that choosing a political faction is gonna make you more money, it's the stupidest thing.

00:09:47.780 Because they say it about everybody. It's like, if you did pop culture movies and, I mean, look at Call Her Daddy.

00:09:54.780 The biggest podcasts are not talking about politics. Only now because the politicians are trying to buy into them.

00:10:00.780 But, like, the biggest podcasts are, like, maybe somewhat, they might mention something political.

00:10:05.780 But you look at the, like, if I were to pull it up, you're gonna find three guys talking about dinosaurs or something nonsense.

00:10:11.780 General interest comedy shows, not overtly political.

00:10:15.780 And then the moment you guys watch someone like Thomas Sowell and you're like, hey, man, maybe they've been lying to us.

00:10:20.780 And you get passionate about it, they say you're doing it for money.

00:10:22.780 Yeah.

00:10:23.780 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:10:24.780 Yeah, it's crazy because, like, we don't just blindly agree with everything.

00:10:27.780 Like, if we don't agree with something, we'll just not agree.

00:10:30.780 Like, so, like, I mean, I find it interesting.

00:10:33.780 I think people just do that because they think the world should see things from their point of view.

00:10:39.780 So, when you kind of disrupt that and don't do that or fall in line with what they think you should do, they start just throwing the labels and insults at you.

00:10:47.780 But that, again, it's mostly online. Like, in person, it's always love.

00:10:50.780 Especially from, like, people of color.

00:10:52.780 Black people.

00:10:53.780 Like, black people.

00:10:54.780 Yeah, black people, Hispanic people.

00:10:55.780 Like, I was just in Dallas the other weekend.

00:10:57.780 Dude came up to me.

00:10:58.780 Black dude came up to me and was like, dude, I love your videos.

00:11:00.780 Like, so, like, every time we go out now, we get recognized by, like, people our age.

00:11:04.780 And it's always positive.

00:11:05.780 It's always love.

00:11:06.780 So, I love that.

00:11:07.780 Me personally.

00:11:08.780 Yeah.

00:11:09.780 Yeah, my mom loves your videos.

00:11:10.780 Like I mentioned.

00:11:11.780 She's so excited.

00:11:12.780 No, actually, we were in L.A., actually, at this movie premiere.

00:11:14.780 And these old dudes came up, this old Hispanic dude, Los Angeles, like, I love your videos.

00:11:18.780 I watch every single one.

00:11:19.780 Like, I want you to know you're making a difference because you found someone like me.

00:11:23.780 All the way in California.

00:11:24.780 I was like, hey, thanks.

00:11:25.780 That's awesome.

00:11:26.780 I remember when we went to the Reagan event, one of the producers was like, y'all the biggest people that's in here right now.

00:11:32.780 I was like, it was surprising.

00:11:34.780 Isn't it crazy, though, that, like, you'll meet these people and they're going to say, thank you for making your videos.

00:11:40.780 I listen to them.

00:11:41.780 I hear what you're saying.

00:11:42.780 And then the people online who are mad at you and calling you slurs and names and all that stuff, it feels more like, you know, I'm just going to be mean and call it a cult.

00:11:49.780 Oh, for sure.

00:11:50.780 You have to be aligned with the name of our club.

00:11:52.780 We don't care what's true.

00:11:53.780 We don't care what's false.

00:11:54.780 If you guys make a video and you say, here's what we're thinking, they're not going to say, hey, you want to have a conversation about this?

00:11:59.780 They're going to insult you and attack you for doing it.

00:12:01.780 There's no argument.

00:12:02.780 Yeah.

00:12:03.780 Yeah.

00:12:04.780 Nobody tried to have no middle ground at all for some reason.

00:12:06.780 I don't know why.

00:12:07.780 Yeah.

00:12:08.780 It's almost like you just break the narrative and go your own way.

00:12:12.780 People get mad at you for that.

00:12:13.780 Yeah.

00:12:14.780 Thinking for yourself like, oh, you don't think like us?

00:12:16.780 Oh, you're not one of us then.

00:12:17.780 You're a sellout.

00:12:18.780 You're this, you're that.

00:12:19.780 It's like, damn.

00:12:20.780 It's really, to me personally, we don't have to be enemies.

00:12:22.780 It's not that deep to me.

00:12:23.780 Yeah.

00:12:24.780 I mean, like, he may see something and say it's red.

00:12:26.780 I may say it's blue.

00:12:27.780 That's just what it is.

00:12:28.780 It's not the end of the world, in my opinion.

00:12:30.780 So you guys were all doing track and stuff in college?

00:12:32.780 Yes, sir.

00:12:33.780 Yes.

00:12:34.780 Well, tell me about that.

00:12:35.780 Like, and then you end up meeting, you make a YouTube channel.

00:12:37.780 Let's start from the beginning and then we'll walk through where we get to.

00:12:40.780 So, and so I moved to Louisiana, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette.

00:12:45.780 Shout out to Rage Occasions.

00:12:46.780 Okay.

00:12:47.780 I moved there in 2019, right before the COVID hit.

00:12:49.780 I had ran like at a junior college and stuff before that.

00:12:52.780 And so when the COVID hit, we decided to do YouTube.

00:12:55.780 I remember the day, like it was yesterday.

00:12:57.780 I remember I was going to the cafeteria to get some food.

00:12:59.780 I ran to Sal-

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00:14:25.780 Clement and Taj, and they were like ecstatic about something.

00:14:31.780 I could like see it even before I even heard what they were saying.

00:14:34.780 I could see it on their faces.

00:14:35.780 And they were like, bro, we had the best idea of all time.

00:14:39.780 I was like, what?

00:14:40.780 What?

00:14:41.780 We're making a YouTube channel.

00:14:42.780 I was like, I bet.

00:14:43.780 So we started doing YouTube videos.

00:14:45.780 We tried basketball videos, prank videos, football videos.

00:14:49.780 And then we started doing reactions and then it just hit.

00:14:52.780 But as far as track, like we just had like a super, like we was just grinding in college.

00:14:56.780 Like we would wake up like good treatment and all that, go to practice.

00:15:00.780 And then me and Brandon were getting our master's degrees.

00:15:02.780 They were still in the undergrad.

00:15:03.780 So we would go to class all day and we would start at like 10 PM, 11 PM.

00:15:08.780 Yeah, every day.

00:15:09.780 Four videos every single day.

00:15:10.780 And like we would go to sleep like two, three in the morning and then wake up and just do it again.

00:15:13.780 And then, so we just kept doing that.

00:15:16.780 And I still run track right now.

00:15:17.780 Like I run professionally for the Ghana national team.

00:15:19.780 So I just go to practice.

00:15:21.780 Yeah.

00:15:22.780 And then come home and then record all day.

00:15:24.780 So I just feel like it's just a matter of using the talents that God has blessed me with.

00:15:27.780 You know, I feel like I'm good at YouTube and I'm good at track.

00:15:30.780 So I'm going to just, I'm going to keep doing them.

00:15:32.780 Definitely.

00:15:33.780 Definitely.

00:15:34.780 Yeah.

00:15:35.780 No, like you said, we, we, I came in late.

00:15:37.780 I was actually at school in Kansas when they had started.

00:15:39.780 I graduated from there.

00:15:41.780 I remember I had, I don't know.

00:15:42.780 I did a lot when I was at Kansas.

00:15:44.780 So my senior year, I had the extra year from COVID.

00:15:47.780 Like they gave us a year back.

00:15:48.780 And I remember everybody, I got accepted to grad school there.

00:15:51.780 And I remember everybody was, oh yeah, you're coming back out.

00:15:53.780 I was like, no, I'm not.

00:15:54.780 And I remember I text Brock, me and him are boys from high school.

00:15:57.780 We're from the same city in Oklahoma.

00:15:59.780 So I texted him.

00:16:00.780 I was like, yeah, I think I want to transfer for my next year.

00:16:02.780 He immediately called me.

00:16:03.780 He's like, you serious?

00:16:04.780 I was like, yeah.

00:16:05.780 He said, I'm going to talk to my coach right now.

00:16:07.780 And that's against NCAA rules.

00:16:09.780 So he would like, he's like saying stuff to Brock and Brock was relaying it to me.

00:16:12.780 So he was like, yeah, he said, apply and call back.

00:16:15.780 So I applied literally a week later.

00:16:16.780 I applied literally when we got off the phone that same day, right there, paid $20, applied

00:16:20.780 to University of Louisiana.

00:16:21.780 Next week, I got accepted, called him again.

00:16:24.780 He was like, all right, do this.

00:16:26.780 And we go home.

00:16:27.780 Then summer goes on.

00:16:28.780 I get accepted.

00:16:29.780 Da-da-da-da-da.

00:16:30.780 End up going to Louisiana.

00:16:31.780 And I just moved in and they were doing YouTube.

00:16:34.780 So, I mean, I had heard about it.

00:16:36.780 Obviously, Brock was telling me about it and da-da-da-da-da.

00:16:38.780 I think we were at like, what, 10,000?

00:16:40.780 16?

00:16:41.780 I don't know.

00:16:42.780 Yeah, we weren't very big.

00:16:43.780 15,000, 10,000, around that range when I started doing it.

00:16:46.780 And yeah, I just kind of just fell into it with the guys.

00:16:49.780 I knew he would be good on the channel, too.

00:16:52.780 Like, just on his personality.

00:16:53.780 I knew it would work.

00:16:54.780 Yeah, no.

00:16:55.780 It's definitely a lot of fun.

00:16:56.780 But my situation was different when I came in because I was a grad student and I was a

00:17:01.780 grad assistant as well, also on the track team.

00:17:03.780 So, I'm doing stuff all day.

00:17:05.780 I'm waking up, going to GA.

00:17:08.780 Then I go to lunch, practice, treatment, class.

00:17:11.780 Then I got to class.

00:17:12.780 It's 9 o'clock.

00:17:13.780 We have four videos a day till midnight every day.

00:17:16.780 And I was like, man, I'm really, like, dedicated to this.

00:17:19.780 I really want to see this break off.

00:17:20.780 And it got to the point, like, even my teachers would show the videos in class.

00:17:23.780 Like, yeah, look what Brandon's doing.

00:17:25.780 I was like, ah.

00:17:26.780 Yeah.

00:17:27.780 So, you guys are all hard working.

00:17:29.780 I mean, running track, you guys are probably, and whatever else, sports.

00:17:33.780 I mean, what do they got you doing?

00:17:35.780 They got special diets?

00:17:36.780 You got to work every single day?

00:17:38.780 Yeah, it's just being, like, I mean, this is really no, like, secret.

00:17:41.780 It's just eat right, work hard, you know, work out hard and, you know.

00:17:44.780 Yeah, stay hydrated.

00:17:45.780 Work on your technique and, you know, it'll come.

00:17:47.780 I would say at the D1 level, because I came from a D2 school.

00:17:50.780 When I went to UL, it was a D1 school.

00:17:53.780 They give you all the tools to be successful.

00:17:55.780 You got the free calf.

00:17:56.780 You got the lunch.

00:17:57.780 You got the trainers.

00:17:59.780 They got, like, a training table with snacks and supplies and supplements.

00:18:03.780 They give you everything you need to be successful.

00:18:04.780 All you got to do is really lock in and focus.

00:18:07.780 It's on you.

00:18:08.780 It's really on you.

00:18:09.780 If you can really lock in and focus, you have everything you need to be successful.

00:18:11.780 Yeah.

00:18:12.780 They set you up for success.

00:18:13.780 Definitely.

00:18:14.780 100%.

00:18:15.780 But the reason I bring this up is because I wonder if, you know, you guys don't sound

00:18:17.780 like you come from a background where you're involved in, you know, I guess what, ghetto

00:18:21.780 culture or, like, you know.

00:18:23.780 Yeah, we're around it for sure.

00:18:25.780 We're around it, yeah.

00:18:26.780 Family members and stuff.

00:18:27.780 Especially as black people, you're going to be exposed to it at some point.

00:18:30.780 Like, I mean, I grew up in the hood, east side OKC.

00:18:34.780 And, like, my house had bullet holes in the back window and stuff.

00:18:37.780 Damn.

00:18:38.780 I mean, I only lived there until I was nine.

00:18:40.780 Then we moved to, like, suburbs.

00:18:41.780 It was super nice.

00:18:42.780 But, I mean, my parents, like, when I went out and played, they was like, you can't go

00:18:46.780 across the street.

00:18:47.780 You can't do this and that.

00:18:48.780 So, I mean, that was just normal to me.

00:18:50.780 I didn't really realize it was different until we left and I saw the difference.

00:18:53.780 Yeah.

00:18:54.780 So, I mean, it's really, like, it's really just on you.

00:18:57.780 Yeah.

00:18:58.780 I could say just me going to college made me, like, step away from that environment

00:19:03.780 because my friends, like, some of them right now is doing some bad stuff right now.

00:19:06.780 I don't approve of.

00:19:07.780 So, I'd say going to college kind of pushed me away from it and see a different environment

00:19:12.780 and see, like, a different outlook of life.

00:19:14.780 So.

00:19:15.780 Yeah, definitely.

00:19:16.780 I mean, man, before, like, we even started the YouTube, I was hanging around some guys

00:19:20.780 that, I mean, I really shouldn't have been hanging around with.

00:19:22.780 I mean, just doing stuff they shouldn't have been doing.

00:19:26.780 And I was telling them, man, you know, I'm going to start a YouTube channel, bro.

00:19:29.780 And they're laughing at me.

00:19:30.780 Like, bro, really?

00:19:31.780 You're going to start a YouTube channel?

00:19:32.780 And I'm like, bro, I think it could really work.

00:19:34.780 And going back to school, being with Taj, I mean, man, me and him, because we, he like

00:19:39.780 had the camera to start the YouTube.

00:19:41.780 I forgot.

00:19:42.780 What was your degree?

00:19:43.780 Oh, yeah, I had video production.

00:19:44.780 Yeah, so that, he's the whole reason, like, this even started because, I mean, I didn't

00:19:48.780 know about a camera at all.

00:19:49.780 You know, I didn't know what I was going to do at all.

00:19:51.780 I mean, it just kind of popped on my head.

00:19:52.780 I was like, bro, maybe we could start a YouTube channel.

00:19:54.780 And that's how it happened, really.

00:19:56.780 Like, what do you guys think is the motivation for your friends and the people in the black

00:19:59.780 community to want to be involved in things that are not good?

00:20:01.780 Like, I don't know what those things are, but you mentioned they're doing things that

00:20:04.780 are not good.

00:20:05.780 It's the culture, man.

00:20:06.780 It's like the culture, you know.

00:20:07.780 People want fast money.

00:20:08.780 Yeah, people want fast money.

00:20:09.780 They want to be hard.

00:20:11.780 They want to be cool.

00:20:12.780 They want street cred.

00:20:13.780 It's a lot.

00:20:14.780 We can talk two hours on the way.

00:20:16.780 Yeah, it's a lot.

00:20:17.780 The main reason is just, like, you are who you surround yourself with.

00:20:20.780 Facts.

00:20:21.780 So, that's what everybody else is doing.

00:20:22.780 Yeah.

00:20:23.780 So, that's what they do.

00:20:24.780 Nah, facts.

00:20:25.780 Like, when I moved to a suburban area, my high school, we're on, like, the edge of,

00:20:29.780 like, the suburb called Edmond and OKC.

00:20:31.780 So, we get a lot of kids from OKC.

00:20:33.780 So, a lot of them, they would try to put, like, the hood, and they would hang around each

00:20:38.780 other.

00:20:39.780 And, you know, they would try to, like, do dumb stuff.

00:20:41.780 Like, I know a lot of guys that were super talented athletes that threw it all away because

00:20:44.780 they wanted to be in the streets.

00:20:45.780 Yeah.

00:20:46.780 They wanted to be tough.

00:20:47.780 Yeah.

00:20:48.780 Yeah.

00:20:49.780 I mean, because I went to different schools, man.

00:20:50.780 So, I've seen, like, a lot of different environments.

00:20:52.780 Like, I went to probably the widest school ever called the Woodlands in New Orleans, Texas.

00:20:57.780 And just seeing that environment coming from, you know, black schools, I was like, this is

00:21:01.780 totally different, man.

00:21:02.780 I was having difficult, like, times in school.

00:21:03.780 And I was like, man, this stuff is actually pretty hard, you know?

00:21:06.780 And then, I mean, I remember just crying to my mom, like, man, this stuff's too hard.

00:21:09.780 She's putting me in hard classes.

00:21:11.780 She was like, this is going to be good for you.

00:21:12.780 And I'm just, I didn't realize it was going to be good for me until I went to, after that,

00:21:16.780 I went to back to the hood, a hood school.

00:21:18.780 And then they were like, yeah, man, you come to class, man, you get an A.

00:21:21.780 And I was like, what the heck?

00:21:22.780 Like, this is pretty crazy.

00:21:23.780 You know, kids walking up to me like, hey, bro, you want to fight, bro?

00:21:26.780 I'm like, what the heck, bro?

00:21:27.780 Like, no.

00:21:28.780 You know, and then I went to a school after that that was kind of like, you know, white

00:21:32.780 and black people.

00:21:33.780 And it was like, it was pretty cool for me.

00:21:34.780 I was like, yeah, I can, I can vibe here, you know?

00:21:36.780 And even there, you know, I get into it with some kids that, you know, well, being friends

00:21:41.780 with some kids that, you know, were a part of the subculture, basically.

00:21:44.780 And like, yeah, bro, like, pull your pants down, bro.

00:21:46.780 Why are you wearing your pants like that?

00:21:48.780 Pull them down a little bit, you know?

00:21:49.780 And I'm like, damn, man, like, why do I have to do that, you know?

00:21:51.780 So then I fell into that, you know, trying to be cool and stuff like that.

00:21:55.780 And then my dad's always like, bro, you know, because he comes from that.

00:21:58.780 He's like, that never gets you anywhere.

00:21:59.780 Yeah.

00:22:00.780 So then I realized, I'm like, hey, you know, then I'm going to college.

00:22:02.780 I'm like, I have to do something outside of that.

00:22:05.780 So then I realized YouTube might be that.

00:22:07.780 And pretty much here we are, you know?

00:22:09.780 Worked out.

00:22:10.780 Yeah, it did.

00:22:11.780 I think our blessing was we all come from good families.

00:22:13.780 Yeah.

00:22:14.780 That's really what it is.

00:22:15.780 Like a lot of people in the black culture don't have like a good family unit or they

00:22:19.780 don't have good examples in their family of what to strive to be like.

00:22:23.780 So I think that may be a big like factor of to why they do a lot of negative stuff because

00:22:29.780 they don't have no good examples.

00:22:31.780 And the example that's put forth in the black culture that's cool is the street stuff or

00:22:35.780 like being like hood and being ghetto and all that stuff.

00:22:38.780 So it's either you have a good example in your family or you just go to what's out there.

00:22:43.780 On social media.

00:22:44.780 Yeah.

00:22:45.780 So that's the two roads you got.

00:22:46.780 And that's why I think it's pretty crazy that people got upset with Byron Donald about

00:22:50.780 what he said about what was it exactly he said?

00:22:52.780 He was saying about how the marriage rate was higher.

00:22:55.780 What was it called again?

00:22:56.780 Jim Crow.

00:22:57.780 Jim Crow.

00:22:58.780 So like during that time, I felt like the activity was more like activists and like

00:23:02.780 people really you can look up to something like that.

00:23:04.780 And now it's just like you just it's nothing to really look up to, you know?

00:23:08.780 Yeah.

00:23:09.780 That's why I think it's different.

00:23:10.780 Yeah.

00:23:11.780 Rappers glorifying that other side.

00:23:13.780 And back in like those days in the 50s, you had the strong family units and they was

00:23:17.780 really struggling and fighting for their positions.

00:23:19.780 They're fighting real racism.

00:23:20.780 Yeah.

00:23:21.780 There was real racism, real struggle.

00:23:23.780 We had to fight for the position we're in now.

00:23:26.780 And you had moms and dads setting that example for their children, that good foundation.

00:23:30.780 And now the single mother rate and black people, the black community in general is the

00:23:37.780 highest, you know?

00:23:38.780 So that alone is the foundation that's missing.

00:23:41.780 So when you have a rocky foundation and then no good examples of what to strive to be like,

00:23:48.780 you just, it's, you gonna either get pulled in one direction or you might get lucky and

00:23:52.780 go in another.

00:23:53.780 And more often than not, they get pulled in the negative direction.

00:23:56.780 I feel like a lot of people don't have no goals or like try to strive for something.

00:24:00.780 That's also like a problem.

00:24:01.780 Just don't know what's possible.

00:24:02.780 You know what's crazy?

00:24:03.780 They actually demonized Byron for that, man.

00:24:05.780 That was crazy.

00:24:06.780 Yeah.

00:24:07.780 I really think they took his comments out of context.

00:24:09.780 Like they tried to, they didn't focus, you know?

00:24:11.780 Yeah.

00:24:12.780 They tried to spin it.

00:24:13.780 Oh yeah.

00:24:14.780 They tried to spin it.

00:24:15.780 Like Larry Elder.

00:24:16.780 You guys, I'm sure.

00:24:17.780 Yeah.

00:24:18.780 Like Larry.

00:24:19.780 Yeah.

00:24:20.780 He's a genius.

00:24:21.780 Yeah.

00:24:22.780 And they call him the black face of white supremacy.

00:24:24.780 It's crazy because, you know, it's, it's racist because a black man would say something

00:24:30.780 that is favored by people in this country who happen to be a Republican, Byron Donalds,

00:24:34.780 Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, they call them white supremacists or, you know, race traitors

00:24:39.780 or whatever.

00:24:40.780 And I'm like, isn't it kind of racist to imply that a guy who like.

00:24:44.780 It is.

00:24:45.780 They're acting like the only, the only reason people are supporting them.

00:24:49.780 What is it?

00:24:50.780 Let me put it this way.

00:24:51.780 I watched Fox News the other day.

00:24:53.780 They had a, what's, what's his name?

00:24:55.780 Lawrence Jones.

00:24:56.780 I'm not sure if I'm getting his name wrong.

00:24:57.780 He's great though.

00:24:58.780 But he went to a bunch of barber shops in the Bronx and he was asking black men who

00:25:02.780 are they're voting for, why they're voting.

00:25:04.780 And one guy said Kamala Harris, and he said, these young black men have the slave mentality

00:25:09.780 where they want to vote for Massa.

00:25:10.780 And that's the people who are voting for Trump.

00:25:12.780 And I'm just like, isn't it kind of, I mean, isn't it some, some kind of racism that if

00:25:19.780 you're going to assume if somebody has an idea they like, it can only be because they're

00:25:24.780 trapped in racism.

00:25:25.780 I don't know.

00:25:26.780 Yeah, no, that's like their race is the reason why they feel this way when it's just

00:25:30.780 the way I see it is if you're stupid, you're stupid.

00:25:33.780 If you're smart, you're smart.

00:25:34.780 Yeah.

00:25:35.780 I just think like, okay, so all these years, you know, when black people really going through

00:25:38.780 things like, you know, getting out of slavery and this and that, and we fought for freedom

00:25:42.780 to make your own decisions.

00:25:43.780 So now that we're finally, you know, we're here, not finally been free, but now that we're

00:25:47.780 here in 2024, 2025.

00:25:49.780 And it's like, y'all are still like in this mindset that it's like, we all have to think

00:25:54.780 the same way, even though we're free.

00:25:56.780 And it's like, I saw a quote, it was like from my pastor.

00:25:59.780 It was like, if you tell someone that a door is locked, they'll never try to open it, even though

00:26:02.780 it's open.

00:26:03.780 They're just telling people like, yeah, you know, you're oppressed, you're racist, you

00:26:05.780 know, this and that.

00:26:06.780 And people sitting there eating it up.

00:26:07.780 And then it's like, wait.

00:26:08.780 And I started, I remember I sat there and I thought, I was like, well, how many racist

00:26:11.780 things have happened to me?

00:26:12.780 And it was like, compared to what they was doing, like nothing.

00:26:15.780 Like my life has been completely fine.

00:26:17.780 I remember my coach at Louisiana.

00:26:18.780 Cause you know, Louisiana is, you know, a Southern state, the heart of the South.

00:26:21.780 We was South Louisiana too.

00:26:22.780 He was talking about how like, when he was in college, he went, we had a white coach who

00:26:26.780 went to a HBCU.

00:26:27.780 And so he, he, he understood like a black people a lot.

00:26:31.780 He was like, the teachers there would get on the students so bad when they would like,

00:26:35.780 come to class and be, you know, ungrateful for the situation they had.

00:26:38.780 And they're like, we fought for y'all to get here to do this.

00:26:40.780 And I was thinking like, yeah, probably back then in the forties, fifties, like people were

00:26:44.780 fighting just to go to school.

00:26:45.780 And now it's like, we, everyone can go to school.

00:26:47.780 You can do all these things.

00:26:48.780 We have all these opportunities, but we're still sitting here crying about racism and all these

00:26:51.780 things.

00:26:52.780 From the perspective that we have, you know, it's crazy about coach though.

00:26:56.780 I remember one day he told us it was like, I think a black graduation or something that

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00:28:27.780 Imagine if white people had that, man.

00:28:31.780 I remember.

00:28:32.780 Me too.

00:28:33.780 I was like, hold on.

00:28:34.780 That's a good point.

00:28:35.780 Black student union.

00:28:36.780 He was like, same thing about the black student union.

00:28:37.780 He said, there's a white student union.

00:28:39.780 I was like, oh my God.

00:28:40.780 And that's around the time we started getting on YouTube.

00:28:42.780 And I was like, man, that's pretty crazy.

00:28:45.780 No, I never thought about that.

00:28:47.780 Yeah.

00:28:48.780 That's insane, man.

00:28:49.780 You know, for me, all like the woke stuff, one of the biggest problems I have with it

00:28:52.780 is that I get it, especially coming from Chicago.

00:28:56.780 That's where you guys know what redlining is.

00:28:58.780 Yeah.

00:28:59.780 That's where they like.

00:29:00.780 That's where it comes from.

00:29:01.780 Yeah.

00:29:02.780 Yes.

00:29:03.780 Cause the red line train, the real estate agents basically conspired to be like, make sure

00:29:07.780 the black people can only live in this area.

00:29:08.780 So they're not near the white people.

00:29:09.780 Cause it'll negatively impact property values.

00:29:11.780 That was in the eighties when they finally put an end to it.

00:29:13.780 So I can imagine if you're like 60, you're saying like, you don't understand how bad

00:29:17.780 it was in the race.

00:29:18.780 Yeah.

00:29:19.780 That makes sense.

00:29:20.780 I do.

00:29:21.780 I do like that.

00:29:22.780 You highlighted that.

00:29:23.780 Cause when you look at black history and like the things black people have to go through

00:29:27.780 to get to the position we are today, it's like, why not, why would you not go to college?

00:29:33.780 Cause black people fought for your rights to go to college.

00:29:35.780 Why would you not try to buy a home?

00:29:37.780 Cause people couldn't buy homes.

00:29:38.780 Like it's like, why would you not fight to be successful?

00:29:41.780 You know, like the stuff and opportunity we have now in America, people fought and died

00:29:45.780 for that.

00:29:46.780 Like my great grandma, my great, great grandma, she was like 90 something.

00:29:50.780 She was born in 1919.

00:29:51.780 I remember she was telling me about like how she had to, she went to school.

00:29:55.780 It was segregated.

00:29:56.780 She had to fight to go to college.

00:29:58.780 And like how my whole family, like on my dad's side, my whole family all went to this HBCU

00:30:03.780 in Oklahoma.

00:30:04.780 Cause it's the only place they could go to school.

00:30:06.780 Like, and my dad was one of the first ones to not go there.

00:30:08.780 He went to OU.

00:30:09.780 And like my mom, like she was adopted, like, and like all her stuff.

00:30:14.780 She, she went, put herself through college and law school.

00:30:16.780 So like, they like really told me black history and like, told me like, why would you throw

00:30:22.780 all the stuff that the people before you fought for away and not be successful?

00:30:27.780 Like, and that's what people in the streets are doing.

00:30:29.780 Like you're saying, Oh, all they went through that stuff.

00:30:32.780 So America's doomed.

00:30:33.780 So why try and I'ma just go throw myself away and make nothing of myself.

00:30:38.780 Like that's almost a slap in the face to those who came before you and died for you.

00:30:43.780 And that's why I say like a lot of people don't know, don't have an example of what

00:30:47.780 to strive for or what, or know what could be if you go fight and try to go make something

00:30:53.780 of yourself.

00:30:54.780 So I think that's one of the biggest disconnects we have.

00:30:57.780 You know, it's crazy.

00:30:58.780 The same people that will throw their life away will tell me I'm wrong for being an Aga.

00:31:01.780 Yeah.

00:31:02.780 That's crazy.

00:31:03.780 They're the ones.

00:31:04.780 What do you want?

00:31:05.780 I don't care about pleasing people.

00:31:06.780 I do not care about pleasing y'all at all.

00:31:09.780 No, and that's a great example because the ones who don't try or are too afraid to try

00:31:13.780 or blame racism on the reason they won't try are the ones that are the most brainwashed

00:31:18.780 and easily controlled by the media narratives and everything that's thrown out there.

00:31:22.780 So like, they're the ones that tell us like, Oh, you guys are dumb.

00:31:26.780 You guys are sellouts.

00:31:27.780 You're this, you're that.

00:31:28.780 Hey, look, bro.

00:31:29.780 Like if y'all really watch the videos and listen to what we say and how we got to this

00:31:33.780 point, you realize this is not a lie.

00:31:36.780 This is not something we just putting on for show.

00:31:38.780 This is real stuff.

00:31:39.780 We're doing like real talk.

00:31:40.780 We're really putting in the work and trying to learn this stuff and do the legwork.

00:31:44.780 And I think, uh, just us being young and being like ourselves, like we haven't changed.

00:31:50.780 Like we're still ourselves the same way we are on camera, off camera.

00:31:53.780 I think that resonates with people who really do watch the videos and take in what we do

00:31:57.780 because they can see like, we're being for real.

00:31:59.780 Cause a lot of people have told me like, you really opened my mind up to this.

00:32:02.780 So you, you guys again, throwing it back to like doing track and stuff takes a lot of

00:32:06.780 discipline.

00:32:07.780 Yeah.

00:32:08.780 You know, you, you, you got to eat right.

00:32:09.780 You've got to train.

00:32:10.780 You, you got to be there.

00:32:11.780 They can give you the tools, but if you don't do the work, so that shows you guys understand

00:32:15.780 the value of hard work is very obvious.

00:32:16.780 Right.

00:32:17.780 So, you know, I, I, do you guys know what night crawling is that refers to like when people

00:32:22.780 go out at night and try to get like the crazy footage.

00:32:24.780 That's right.

00:32:25.780 I remember the movie nightcrawler.

00:32:26.780 It's good.

00:32:27.780 The movie was great.

00:32:28.780 It was creepy, but yeah, I went night crawling in Chicago with a journalist friend of mine

00:32:33.780 and there was something like, I don't know, seven or eight murders that had happened on

00:32:37.780 the South side.

00:32:38.780 And a handful of them, it was, it was black men killing black men and some innocent people

00:32:44.780 dying.

00:32:45.780 And what, what they told us is these are young men.

00:32:49.780 At the time it was Snapchat.

00:32:50.780 That was the, that was the big thing everyone was using.

00:32:52.780 A young black guy would go on Snapchat and then insult a guy and his girlfriend and say

00:32:56.780 something like, I'm going to get your girl and I'm going to do this, that, or otherwise.

00:32:59.780 So the guy would be like, okay, pull out a gun, go to the guy's house and kill him.

00:33:03.780 And, you know, I thought about that.

00:33:05.780 Seeing you guys, you're, you're working really, really hard to try and succeed and build something

00:33:09.780 that lasts and to be happy, to be healthy.

00:33:12.780 And then I, I like, there's, there's a component there where I feel like a question needs to be

00:33:17.780 asked, how are you better off being hard on the South side where you're going to insult

00:33:22.780 some guy's girlfriend and then die over it?

00:33:25.780 Or are you going to start a business, eat right, train?

00:33:28.780 And it's fascinating to me that they criticize you guys over saying, hey, maybe it's better

00:33:32.780 to own a business and be hard workers and succeed and have a family.

00:33:36.780 It's just, it's, it's like what a lot of what we see from the left.

00:33:39.780 I don't want to just blanket every single one of them is it's destructive.

00:33:43.780 Oh yeah.

00:33:44.780 Oh, 100%.

00:33:45.780 100%.

00:33:46.780 What you said is 100% correct.

00:33:47.780 And a lot of people, especially even, it's weird to say this, but a lot of rappers have

00:33:52.780 been saying that recently.

00:33:54.780 Like I heard a rapper the other day, Rilo Rodriguez, he was like, so you think I'm supposed

00:33:57.780 to stack this money up and do all these things just to mess it up so you can say I'm real?

00:34:02.780 Like what?

00:34:03.780 So then that doesn't make sense to me, you know?

00:34:05.780 And it was like, I was like, you, it, I think it boils down to trying to please people.

00:34:10.780 Like we were saying, like, you're going to, you're either going to try to please black

00:34:13.780 people and be black and do what they want you to do, or you're going to be white and

00:34:17.780 be a square.

00:34:18.780 Yeah.

00:34:19.780 So if you care what people think, if you live your life based on what people think

00:34:22.780 about you, no matter what, someone's going to be upset.

00:34:24.780 Do you guys ever see that song, read a book?

00:34:27.780 Uh-uh.

00:34:28.780 Who?

00:34:29.780 I don't know.

00:34:30.780 It went super viral.

00:34:31.780 Let me, uh, let me, let me see if I can pull this up and I'll play a little bit.

00:34:36.780 This went super viral.

00:34:38.780 Here we go.

00:34:40.780 Let's play a little bit of it.

00:34:41.780 Let's skip ahead.

00:34:46.780 Hey, hooks and concepts and shit, right?

00:34:49.780 Well fuck that man.

00:34:50.780 I'm trying to go black them.

00:34:52.780 Somebody rock this shit.

00:34:53.780 Check this out, y'all.

00:34:56.780 Read a book, read a book, read a motherfucking book.

00:34:59.780 Hold on is this part of the, um, what's that show?

00:35:03.780 Mucha, lucha?

00:35:04.780 No, I think this is the freak Nick show.

00:35:07.780 You guys should react to this one.

00:35:25.540 It's a conspiracy.

00:35:27.100 You know, you can't have strong young black men explaining their worldviews when the...

00:35:33.140 I'm kidding, by the way.

00:35:34.200 No, no, we know.

00:35:35.480 Meet a machine is going to get real pissed off about it.

00:35:37.640 No, facts.

00:35:38.200 You want to know what's crazy?

00:35:39.520 This is something we've been noticing a lot, especially since we have been paying attention a lot more lately.

00:35:45.520 When you watch the news and TV, there's never very many masculine black men they have pushing rhetoric,

00:35:52.600 especially on the Democrat side.

00:35:53.740 It's always a gay dude or a dude that's kind of a sissy.

00:35:58.600 What's his name?

00:35:59.380 Van Jones.

00:36:00.380 There was another dude that was crying on TV.

00:36:03.000 It's always either a pussy or a gay dude.

00:36:05.720 There's never someone that's like a masculine man, like as far...

00:36:09.720 But on the other side, you have men like Scott Jennings.

00:36:12.020 You have a whole bunch of other male masculine figures.

00:36:16.020 Jesse Waters on the...

00:36:17.660 Speaking for the Republican side, but for the black men's point of view, it's either a woman who's married to a white guy, more often than not, or a gay dude or a pussy.

00:36:27.680 I'm like, this is very interesting.

00:36:28.900 And when you look at their spouses, they're usually in an interracial marriage.

00:36:33.620 But also, I'd like to point out that they always have that thing about them, and then they'll demonize people like Byron Donalds and Tim Scott and Wesley Hunt,

00:36:46.000 all these Republican senators that are black men who have white wives or not black wives for having that when there's a lot of people on their side,

00:36:55.440 like even their presidential candidate who has a white husband, the double standard that they have is absolutely insane.

00:37:01.020 To me, the left seem like they're against men.

00:37:03.600 I don't want to see no type of masculinity at all.

00:37:06.080 For sure, they demonize masculinity, especially as young men.

00:37:10.680 They tell young men, it's okay to paint your nails and stuff now.

00:37:14.160 Yeah, that's weird.

00:37:14.500 It's getting crazy out here.

00:37:16.600 I don't know what's been going on, man.

00:37:18.220 It's getting crazy out here.

00:37:19.460 That's why it's pretty easy to be Republican.

00:37:22.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:37:22.520 They trying to tell me a man is a woman, a woman is a man.

00:37:25.940 That's a problem.

00:37:26.680 At the end of the day, we got to stand up and be men.

00:37:29.220 There's certain things that men don't do.

00:37:31.140 I remember I had an argument with this girl once because I remember she was like, oh, I think Noah Lyles is cool.

00:37:37.080 I said, yeah, I think I respect Noah Lyles and everything he's done.

00:37:40.180 But to me, as a man, I think he's kind of a pussy because he paints his nails.

00:37:44.820 And she got livid.

00:37:45.960 She was hot.

00:37:47.000 She was like, no, no, no.

00:37:48.440 Men can express themselves in nontraditional ways, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:52.700 And I was like, look, as a man, there's just certain things that men don't do.

00:37:56.620 And that's one of them.

00:37:58.060 And she was so upset.

00:37:59.380 Obviously, she was a liberal.

00:38:00.980 But she was just so mad that I said that.

00:38:03.260 To me, it makes sense.

00:38:04.480 When I say this to other men, it makes sense.

00:38:07.040 Like, I'm not saying it's gay, but it's not manly.

00:38:11.000 So to me, that makes sense.

00:38:11.900 We back up right now?

00:38:13.120 We're recording.

00:38:14.300 Oh, okay.

00:38:15.140 The live is screwed up.

00:38:16.020 But it's okay because we could upload the full, like, put it together.

00:38:19.640 So we're good.

00:38:20.580 The best we can be good.

00:38:21.680 I wish the live was working.

00:38:22.660 But I don't know, man.

00:38:23.660 They just shut us down.

00:38:24.680 That sucks.

00:38:25.180 Well, I say they, but I don't know.

00:38:27.060 Computer broke, I guess.

00:38:28.140 But the Wi-Fi's working?

00:38:30.620 Yeah, I don't know, man.

00:38:31.520 That's weird.

00:38:32.280 It says we're streaming.

00:38:33.360 I can see the bit rate going through, but nothing's appearing on YouTube.

00:38:36.840 It might be YouTube.

00:38:39.260 Black Lives Matter title.

00:38:42.700 Yeah, I've went from BLM to Trump supporters.

00:38:44.920 Oh, yeah, that's bad.

00:38:46.000 They said not so fast.

00:38:47.780 They're like, not two weeks before the election.

00:38:49.580 No way.

00:38:50.680 Well, so let's talk about that.

00:38:51.840 I mean, you guys had a BLM poster in your first video.

00:38:54.880 So, I mean, I wouldn't call you guys.

00:38:56.760 I don't know.

00:38:57.220 You weren't activists.

00:38:58.560 Nah, nah, nah.

00:38:59.620 We were just regular.

00:39:00.300 We went to some poster that was cool.

00:39:01.740 We just cared about Black Lives, literally.

00:39:03.620 That was it.

00:39:04.780 You know what's crazy?

00:39:05.940 The video we shot when we were at a Black Lives Matter protest or whatever, at the end

00:39:11.900 of the video, we gave some white guy, a homeless guy, some shoes on the end of the video.

00:39:15.660 And some money.

00:39:16.180 So, it's like we didn't know, you know?

00:39:18.240 We didn't know what it was really standing for and stuff like that, you know?

00:39:21.420 And then you start getting educated and you start seeing what's going on and you realize

00:39:24.800 that, hey, these people were taking that money and buying mansions with it.

00:39:28.840 Yeah.

00:39:29.260 Like, what was really going on?

00:39:30.560 And then I realized, whatever, like, they only scream that when a cop kills a Black person.

00:39:34.520 But like you said, in Chicago, during them seven-day murders in one day, I didn't hear

00:39:38.620 once.

00:39:39.680 Nah.

00:39:40.140 Black lives don't matter then.

00:39:41.460 But they matter when, you know?

00:39:43.300 That's why.

00:39:43.900 Yeah, go ahead.

00:39:44.420 They have a killing and then the same person that killed them going to make a song on the

00:39:47.700 internet and everybody going to love it.

00:39:50.180 And then no Black Lives Matter then.

00:39:53.120 The defund the police thing.

00:39:55.540 That's outrageous.

00:39:56.220 That's the dumb stuff.

00:39:56.480 It's the most outrageous thing I've ever heard.

00:39:58.500 Do you want to hurt to help Black people?

00:39:59.660 Because it's like, I've seen so many Black-on-Black crime, so it's just like, do we defund Black people?

00:40:07.840 You know?

00:40:08.060 It's like, it's almost the same thing.

00:40:11.680 You know?

00:40:11.880 It's like, I see more Black-on-Black crime than I see an officer on Black crime.

00:40:16.140 A white officer on a Black crime.

00:40:17.780 I just don't see that.

00:40:18.500 That's good for that.

00:40:18.920 Yeah.

00:40:19.080 So it's just like, and then I tell somebody that they're, well, the hood's already defunded.

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00:41:50.080 I'm like, actually, it's not.

00:41:52.380 I was talking to somebody about the stats and they were telling me the stats are wrong.

00:41:56.000 They're like, stats are lies.

00:41:57.460 And I was like, well, like we can see it on the internet.

00:42:00.480 Yeah, we can.

00:42:01.100 We can everything.

00:42:01.680 I'm going to say we can manipulate the data many different ways and the stats still say

00:42:06.760 the same thing.

00:42:07.620 It was actually my mom.

00:42:08.620 I was arguing.

00:42:09.180 My mom's a lawyer.

00:42:09.840 She thinks she knows everything sometimes.

00:42:12.080 She's intelligent.

00:42:13.000 Love you, mom.

00:42:13.680 But sometimes we were arguing.

00:42:15.160 I remember she was like, oh, no, that's not true.

00:42:16.640 I said, all right, let's take it a step deeper.

00:42:18.380 What's the data of this?

00:42:19.580 I think I was talking about like the black single family homes has got up to like almost

00:42:24.640 70 percent.

00:42:25.920 And she was like, no, that's just because they're having babies out of wedlock.

00:42:29.100 I said, all right, let's take it to where a step further to black kids with no dad at

00:42:34.080 all.

00:42:34.440 It was like 58 percent.

00:42:35.780 So it went from 70 to 58.

00:42:37.900 And I remember she was like, well, I still don't agree with that.

00:42:40.080 I was like, well, this is from fatherhood.org.

00:42:43.160 I was like, how deep does it get, mom?

00:42:45.160 I was like, at what point do you like recognize that this is a problem?

00:42:48.700 And like she was like, we just have to agree to disagree.

00:42:50.860 I was like, all right, whatever.

00:42:52.020 I don't know that.

00:42:52.820 I feel like that's a problem because growing up, I seen a lot of, you know, I'm in a single

00:42:56.640 mother home.

00:42:57.580 So I seen a lot of my friends growing up in a single mother home.

00:43:00.380 So that's why I be like, I cannot say that's wrong when people want to argue with people.

00:43:04.520 But you want to know something?

00:43:05.860 I'll take it a step further.

00:43:06.880 This is a theory I've come up with, me personally.

00:43:10.280 So I think the reason why the Democrat Party has such a grip on black people is the fact

00:43:16.640 that obviously I think Democrat rhetoric plays on women's fears.

00:43:22.100 You know, it plays on fear, right?

00:43:23.920 Women are emotionally thinking.

00:43:25.760 So when they're pushing rhetoric from every mainstream media outlet where people watch

00:43:31.400 news and think they're getting informed, the regular average person thinks they're getting

00:43:35.100 informed and it's playing on their fear.

00:43:37.180 And they play on this fear of white supremacy and white people this and that.

00:43:40.880 White people are against you, da, da, da, da.

00:43:43.000 And women eat that up.

00:43:46.520 Predominantly black women who are the highest supporters of the Democrat Party, they're going

00:43:50.540 to repeat that to their children.

00:43:52.180 And if there's no father in the home, because there's so much single motherhood, like it's

00:43:57.060 just going to come down to the children from the mob.

00:43:58.740 It's going to be a cycle.

00:43:59.760 Yeah.

00:44:00.020 And then you've got, and then even if you look a step further than that, you have all

00:44:03.420 these black women who are in the Democrat Party that hold positions of government who

00:44:08.080 also repeat the same things like Jasmine Crockett, Abby Phillip on CNN.

00:44:12.380 Letitia James.

00:44:12.660 Yeah, Letitia James.

00:44:13.660 We could name a whole bunch.

00:44:15.140 Like, we could keep going.

00:44:16.400 So I just think it comes from the women, from black women, right?

00:44:20.200 And they pushed on their children.

00:44:21.520 They spread the rhetoric and they all accept it so much.

00:44:24.100 That's why they're the strongest supporters of the Democrat Party.

00:44:27.760 And men, black men who like black women, oh, we have to listen to the women because

00:44:32.360 they love black women.

00:44:35.200 That's how it goes to me.

00:44:36.600 That's why I think it gets that deep to me.

00:44:38.920 And I think that's, sorry, I don't mean to cut you off.

00:44:40.960 No, no, no.

00:44:41.300 I think that's another reason why like black men who are Republican have white wives, because

00:44:47.140 if all the black women are Democrat and you're a Republican and then they have all these

00:44:53.160 things, these labels and things they throw on black Republicans, you're a sellout, you're

00:44:57.000 a coon, you're this, you're that.

00:44:58.140 They demonize you.

00:44:59.320 Why would a woman want to be with you if that's what you're seen as among these people?

00:45:04.080 You know, like to a white woman or a woman who's outside of that and doesn't think that

00:45:07.520 way, she would never view you like that.

00:45:08.820 She doesn't care.

00:45:10.040 Oh, she doesn't care.

00:45:11.060 She would never view you like that.

00:45:12.340 She doesn't care.

00:45:13.300 So, I mean, that's why that is.

00:45:15.800 That to me, that's like a theory I've come up with.

00:45:17.420 And, you know, for a lot of these black women, I don't blame them.

00:45:20.140 I mean, you're being told that your entire community is going to turn against you if

00:45:24.860 you go this direction, if you feel this way.

00:45:26.660 So, I bet there's a lot of black women who are just like...

00:45:28.400 Look at Candace Owens.

00:45:29.660 Oh, man.

00:45:30.300 Yeah, they turn.

00:45:31.040 They destroy her.

00:45:32.940 Like, I remember, like, they're like, oh, yeah, we still hate Candace, but like, you

00:45:36.920 see her new series where she's exposing Kamala.

00:45:39.100 Oh, yeah.

00:45:39.860 They're like, oh, we still hate Candace, but she's spinning.

00:45:43.040 She's cooking here.

00:45:44.440 I'm like, we've met Candace.

00:45:45.920 She's cool as hell.

00:45:47.120 Yeah.

00:45:47.300 I'm like, what is the problem here?

00:45:48.900 It's just, you know, going back to what I was saying earlier in the show about, like,

00:45:51.660 Larry Elder, it's if a black person has an idea that conservatives or white people agree

00:45:58.420 with, they say that they're grifting, they're pandering, they're playing into white supremacy.

00:46:04.100 And it's like, I don't know, like, if there's some overweight 55-year-old white dude who makes

00:46:10.440 $40,000 a year and he's a huge fan of Thomas Sowell, I don't think that demeans Thomas

00:46:15.900 Sowell.

00:46:16.440 I don't think that means Thomas Sowell is, like, Candace Owens, they call her a white

00:46:20.080 supremacist in far right.

00:46:21.280 I'm like, she's like a multimillionaire with 10 million plus fans.

00:46:25.300 I'm pretty sure on the hierarchy of, like, how the world works, Oprah even, it doesn't

00:46:30.700 even need to be Candace Owens.

00:46:32.260 They're not oppressed.

00:46:33.800 No.

00:46:34.280 You know what I mean?

00:46:34.660 I'm like, so, that's why it's fascinating to say Larry Elder's the black face of white

00:46:39.080 supremacy.

00:46:40.180 And I'm like, dude, that working class white dude who barely is making ends meet, who loves

00:46:44.180 listening to Larry Elder, is not racist.

00:46:46.900 Fact.

00:46:47.740 He's looking up to this guy, but they don't want that, they don't want that to be.

00:46:51.600 Yeah.

00:46:51.900 It's the weirdest thing.

00:46:52.940 Yeah.

00:46:53.080 Nobody in America is oppressed.

00:46:56.880 Period.

00:46:57.580 Yeah.

00:46:57.760 I feel like America is the best place in the world.

00:47:00.520 Especially for a black man.

00:47:01.860 Especially.

00:47:02.420 Like, I was having this argument with someone.

00:47:04.080 I was like, where in the world can you go and have a better life with more opportunity

00:47:07.120 as a black person than America?

00:47:09.740 Where?

00:47:10.100 Name one place.

00:47:10.640 Yeah.

00:47:10.920 Did you see, you guys know Terrence K. Williams?

00:47:13.740 Yeah, we do.

00:47:14.440 That's the homie.

00:47:15.360 Yeah, we had him on the show recently and he said that his first video that went real

00:47:18.340 big was he was on his lunch break, so he was eating fried chicken.

00:47:22.140 And then he said, how many black people want to go back to Africa?

00:47:25.920 He's like, because I don't.

00:47:26.940 He's like, I like it here.

00:47:28.060 And then they claimed that because he was eating fried chicken, he was doing a racist

00:47:32.020 thing where he was attacking black people or whatever.

00:47:34.780 And I'm like.

00:47:35.380 That's crazy.

00:47:36.700 Yeah.

00:47:37.200 You don't get no good fried chicken in Africa, though.

00:47:39.400 I was in Cameroon for the African championships like a month ago, and that was my first time

00:47:44.800 leaving America.

00:47:46.460 And so I've always known people like, because my dad is an immigrant.

00:47:50.840 He moved here from Ghana.

00:47:51.720 His parents moved here from Ghana.

00:47:53.140 So I grew up like, I didn't really grow up being taught that white people were against

00:47:58.540 me, that I have no chance, because I wasn't really right.

00:48:01.360 My parents are from Africa, from Ghana.

00:48:03.760 So when I went to Cameroon, that was the most life-changing experience I've ever had, because

00:48:07.640 right before we went to Cameroon, we were at the turning point I've been in Detroit.

00:48:11.520 So I met Trump.

00:48:12.780 I met all these people.

00:48:13.740 And it's like, wow, I'm experiencing like the American dream.

00:48:16.280 And then I go to Cameroon, and I'm seeing like real poverty, like no electricity, no

00:48:22.700 house.

00:48:23.020 Like these people are really struggling.

00:48:25.120 And I remember I ran up on a family.

00:48:27.520 They see I have AirPods in, and they're like jumping up and down, freaking out, because

00:48:30.280 they've never seen AirPods.

00:48:31.300 I'm like, wow.

00:48:31.960 Like that trip changed my life.

00:48:34.180 I had so much survivor's guilt.

00:48:36.120 Like on just the whole way home, I just felt like a horrible feeling, sick to my stomach.

00:48:39.780 I'm like, I have so much in America.

00:48:41.540 I'm about to go back to America and have everything.

00:48:43.720 Your parents are from Africa, and they emigrate here.

00:48:46.600 Yeah.

00:48:46.900 So my dad moved here when he was only five years old.

00:48:49.640 So it was my grandpa.

00:48:50.860 Like he one by one.

00:48:51.960 Like I think, so my dad has four sisters, and he moved them all one at a time.

00:48:55.960 And so my grandpa was working at Pizza Hut in the horse stables in Oklahoma.

00:48:59.140 And he was working two jobs, and he was getting his Ph.D. to be a professor at the college

00:49:03.060 that Brandon's people also went to.

00:49:04.720 Yeah.

00:49:04.840 Wow.

00:49:05.160 So when he became a professor there, he started moving them one at a time.

00:49:09.280 So like my dad, like from like ages, like I think when he was born to like five or six

00:49:12.600 years old, didn't see his parents, because they were in America trying to, you know,

00:49:15.680 make ends meet.

00:49:16.560 And they just went at a time, brought them here, brought them here.

00:49:18.400 And everybody, all my dad's sisters and all their family, they're doctors, they're

00:49:21.700 successful, all of them.

00:49:22.960 And just because it shows me how much perspective and what you're taught can affect you, right?

00:49:27.180 I mean, you see a lot of Nigerians.

00:49:28.620 You see a lot of like Iranian, you see a lot of people from other Vietnamese, they

00:49:32.180 come here and they're successful because they're like, I'm not about to just sit here

00:49:35.220 and let y'all like, where I came from, it's real struggle and real poverty.

00:49:38.660 So here where I have a chance in America, I'm not going to care what y'all say.

00:49:41.520 I'm going to go get that money.

00:49:42.820 I think it was, maybe it was Charlie Kirk.

00:49:46.000 It might have been Vivek.

00:49:46.580 I think it was Charlie Kirk.

00:49:47.440 He said, America is the one country where the people that hate it refuse to leave.

00:49:51.660 Facts.

00:49:52.360 Literally.

00:49:53.080 Yeah.

00:49:53.540 I saw that.

00:49:54.220 He was arguing with that dude with the mask on.

00:49:56.040 Yeah.

00:49:56.500 He was like, can you prove it?

00:49:57.560 I was like, what the hell you mean?

00:49:59.360 He was like, all right, will you leave?

00:50:00.640 No.

00:50:01.260 Well, he just proved it.

00:50:02.240 This is the crazy thing too because you've got this idea and it's like, it's woke people

00:50:08.660 from all different backgrounds saying that America's racist, America's horrible.

00:50:12.440 And I'm like, yo, like your family fought to come here and your grandpa worked really,

00:50:16.940 really hard to be here.

00:50:17.720 That's a spit in the face to them.

00:50:21.140 Like you did all this to get me here and now I'm a complainer.

00:50:23.960 Now you're a victim of it.

00:50:25.080 Yeah.

00:50:25.400 I know it's crazy.

00:50:26.100 That's why I could never, me personally, I could never, I'm not doing that.

00:50:28.620 I don't care.

00:50:29.260 I'm not going to just sit here and just say that I'm oppressed when I don't feel oppressed.

00:50:34.320 I'm not going to say that.

00:50:35.440 No.

00:50:35.740 I didn't think that was extreme like left at first until maybe like a couple of days

00:50:40.660 ago when I thought, I said, you know, that's almost delusional.

00:50:44.120 That's on the level of LGBTQ activists.

00:50:47.860 That's on the level of climate activists because that is far left because that is a

00:50:52.400 delusion that you are oppressed.

00:50:55.700 If this is the case, why do African people always come here and be successful?

00:50:58.700 That is a literal real thing.

00:51:00.460 You can look up these stats.

00:51:01.940 Yeah.

00:51:02.140 That is far left now.

00:51:03.260 To me, that is extremely far left.

00:51:04.500 Think about all the immigrants is trying their hardest to cross the border.

00:51:08.500 Right now.

00:51:09.380 Right now.

00:51:10.300 To be oppressed.

00:51:11.680 Yeah.

00:51:12.320 That's why I think.

00:51:13.300 That doesn't make any sense.

00:51:14.240 At all.

00:51:14.940 No logic at all.

00:51:16.140 So that's why I think that we have a different perspective and that's why we're like this

00:51:19.220 was because we all grew up and like we've seen different things.

00:51:22.140 Yeah.

00:51:22.420 Facts.

00:51:22.800 He came, he's a military kid, so he's been around black and white people.

00:51:26.660 I've went, my dad put me in different positions to see black and white people.

00:51:29.460 They've seen black and white people like in different situations.

00:51:31.860 So that's what it is with the black community is that they just don't see the different

00:51:35.300 situations.

00:51:36.200 Exactly.

00:51:36.420 And they think they're oppressed.

00:51:37.400 Because if you look at different countries in different situations, you're going to be

00:51:40.360 like, wow, I can do, I have a yellow school bus to go to school, man.

00:51:44.740 Yeah.

00:51:45.240 They're running and walking miles on bare feet to go to school.

00:51:49.880 No.

00:51:50.460 You got water at school.

00:51:51.400 I really feel like Oklahoma, I mean, I really feel like America is really the land of opportunity.

00:51:55.960 Like it literally is.

00:51:56.740 It is what you make it.

00:51:57.720 Like I think people think like if you go work, you're just going to automatically be successful.

00:52:03.460 I think that's a myth that we've been sold.

00:52:05.800 I also think that a lot of people think that if they don't go to college, like there's no

00:52:10.360 other way.

00:52:10.880 I think that's also a myth that's been sold.

00:52:12.940 Like there's so many ways to find success in America, literally a million ways to find success

00:52:16.820 in America, like people are making millions of dollars selling trading cards.

00:52:20.660 Like, you know, Patrick, but David said, I was listening to him yesterday.

00:52:23.320 He said, uh, they, they can predict who will be the next most millionaires in our generation.

00:52:28.120 It'll be plumbers.

00:52:29.360 Really?

00:52:29.780 Oh, yeah.

00:52:30.200 Yeah.

00:52:30.520 That makes a lot of sense.

00:52:31.360 Cause everybody don't want to do that job.

00:52:33.860 There's a, there's a, a cartoon.

00:52:36.260 I think someone made it like a meme.

00:52:37.680 I can't remember what this was, but the, uh, I think South Park did say, this is a South

00:52:40.620 Park joke.

00:52:41.440 The, the plumber is driving there.

00:52:43.660 All the plumbers are driving around in like Ferraris.

00:52:46.780 Wow.

00:52:47.260 Cause nobody wanted to do the job and everyone's going to college.

00:52:49.520 So then the plumbers start becoming in high demand and they're charged all the handymen.

00:52:53.120 Yes.

00:52:53.460 And it's like, you know, I'm, I'm overbooked.

00:52:55.840 I got to hire more employees.

00:52:57.140 We need more.

00:52:57.680 Everybody's desperate.

00:52:59.060 Stan's dad can't fix the oven.

00:53:00.620 So he's got to hire somebody and they're all rich now.

00:53:02.740 That's insane.

00:53:03.640 It's opportunity.

00:53:04.420 You know what I mean?

00:53:04.820 Like the economy shifts.

00:53:06.560 Yeah.

00:53:06.900 And that's the thing though.

00:53:07.840 Our community doesn't like see these jobs as a way to make money.

00:53:12.180 That's what it is too.

00:53:13.180 Especially with the younger people.

00:53:14.460 I feel like younger black people is like with social media and stuff, you know, everybody

00:53:18.080 want to do YouTube or rap or whatever athlete.

00:53:21.040 And it's like, you can't do these things.

00:53:22.200 It's like, especially the women, like on both sides, not just black or white, like women

00:53:25.400 in general, young women are going to be like, well, I want somebody with some motion, you

00:53:28.420 know?

00:53:28.880 So he's a plumber.

00:53:30.040 He don't want no man with a nine or five.

00:53:31.060 But he make 200K and he make 60, you know?

00:53:34.080 It's just, I think that's a generational kind of issue, not just a race issue.

00:53:39.380 I definitely think it's, uh, people want the image too.

00:53:42.820 Yeah.

00:53:43.260 I don't want to be with no plumber.

00:53:45.120 So I, there's a story I like to tell from back where, where I come from on the South

00:53:48.880 side and there was a, so this is, this is like a generally mixed race area for the most

00:53:52.360 part, but we had to divide it.

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00:55:18.660 Dividing line, 47th Street.

00:55:22.800 If you cross north of 47th, all black south of it, predominantly white, some Hispanic,

00:55:28.100 very few Asian.

00:55:29.640 But that dividing line was real.

00:55:32.160 And there was animosity based on these two different communities.

00:55:36.000 But I remember, you know, there were a couple of kids in my neighborhood that were selling pot.

00:55:39.880 And then there was this black dude, and he was like, why are you selling pot?

00:55:43.140 And they were like, well, I got to make money.

00:55:45.220 And he was like, I'm not going to go work at McDonald's.

00:55:47.340 He's like, I make way more selling pot.

00:55:49.100 And this guy, I always remember this because it was such a great story.

00:55:51.720 He was like, that's the stupidest thing I ever heard.

00:55:53.700 You want to make money?

00:55:54.500 I'll tell you to make money.

00:55:55.600 And here's what I do.

00:55:56.520 He's like, I look up the venues in Chicago where bands are playing.

00:55:59.900 And then I see this list.

00:56:01.520 They got four bands on Friday night, four bands on Saturday night, four bands Thursday or whatever.

00:56:05.960 These bands that are opening are like 18-year-olds.

00:56:09.700 So I reach out to them on social media or whatever.

00:56:12.180 This is back before social media, I think.

00:56:13.420 But it's like, I'll hit them up.

00:56:14.940 And I say, hey, do you guys have merch?

00:56:16.540 And they go, no.

00:56:17.060 And he's like, here's what I'm going to do.

00:56:17.800 I'm going to sell t-shirts for your band, and I'm going to give you 20%.

00:56:21.420 And then the bands are like, yes, because we don't have merch.

00:56:25.560 And then he was like, I work two days a week.

00:56:27.040 I make two grand a week.

00:56:28.800 Because I go to the store.

00:56:30.360 I print up a couple hundred shirts.

00:56:31.840 I go.

00:56:32.440 They bring all their friends and family to come see their show.

00:56:34.820 Everybody wants to buy the shirts.

00:56:36.320 They get money they wouldn't have got before.

00:56:37.900 I get paid.

00:56:38.600 You know, got to sell pot to do that.

00:56:40.200 He's like, it's just lazy.

00:56:41.860 Someone told you to make money, and now you're going to go to jail.

00:56:44.240 What's the point?

00:56:45.120 He's like, you could sell socks on the highway and make more money than this.

00:56:48.840 Yeah, see, that's the thing, though.

00:56:49.740 People want the easy way out.

00:56:51.060 Because selling pot is always going to be an option in the black community.

00:56:55.440 That's one of the first things that come to you.

00:56:57.500 It's just the black community, though.

00:56:58.600 Well, yeah, yeah.

00:56:59.140 Not just the black community.

00:56:59.780 It's going to come to you.

00:57:00.680 That's going to be the first.

00:57:01.300 That's one of my first opportunities of money.

00:57:03.460 But you know, you just know it's repercussions with that.

00:57:05.700 It's repercussions.

00:57:06.340 You might die.

00:57:07.080 You might get real.

00:57:07.960 You might have to kill somebody behind that.

00:57:09.480 This is the problem with this.

00:57:11.160 You might have to kill somebody that died behind that.

00:57:12.740 Damn.

00:57:13.520 I'll tell you, I know multiple people.

00:57:15.080 I literally shot in the head.

00:57:16.380 There's somebody dying right now behind that.

00:57:17.800 Somewhere.

00:57:18.440 A kid from my high school got shot in the head over an ounce in high school.

00:57:21.980 I was like, wow, that's insane.

00:57:23.300 I wouldn't have to kill somebody in high school over three pills.

00:57:25.720 Wow.

00:57:26.260 Just try to rob them over three pills.

00:57:28.380 How could you see that and say this is a good idea?

00:57:30.340 You know what happens?

00:57:31.400 So I imagine some of this is like you're selling on someone else's territory or you owe a debt

00:57:37.120 you didn't pay back and you disrespected them or something.

00:57:39.940 If you go to a t-shirt print shop and you say, let me get an order of 100 shirts.

00:57:44.560 I'm going to beg your bills.

00:57:45.220 It's going to be 500 bucks.

00:57:46.260 You say, okay, give me the invoice.

00:57:47.660 I'll pay you by the end of the week.

00:57:48.820 If you don't pay them, the guy who owns that shop is not going to put a bullet on you.

00:57:51.700 He's going to come wagging his finger and he's going to hand you a legal demand.

00:57:56.260 And then three months later, you're in court.

00:57:58.480 That's normal business.

00:57:59.480 Yeah.

00:57:59.800 Yeah.

00:58:01.200 What's handling in court, buddy?

00:58:02.720 You don't need to use the guns.

00:58:04.060 I'll see you in court.

00:58:05.800 Yeah.

00:58:06.520 Well, here's the thing about, you know, I mean, pot's becoming largely legal in a lot of places.

00:58:11.360 But the people who, you know, a guy goes to someone and says, here, I'm going to be your supplier.

00:58:16.060 You go sell on the street or whatever.

00:58:17.400 If that dude doesn't pay him back, he has no court.

00:58:19.360 There's no recourse.

00:58:20.980 So this is why you end up with violence.

00:58:23.120 Because he's like, the only thing you have to do is you fight.

00:58:25.980 Whereas normal business, that's, you know, regular market, not black market, you send

00:58:32.220 them a summons to a small claims court.

00:58:33.820 And it's just like, okay, the $200 has to be paid back.

00:58:36.000 Or you go on TV.

00:58:37.500 Could you imagine?

00:58:38.540 You go on Judge, yeah, Judge Joe Brown or Judge Judy.

00:58:40.860 And then it's like, okay, you owe him $200.

00:58:42.180 And then the show pays the bill.

00:58:44.060 But that's the funny thing about that story to me is like, if people in the community just

00:58:48.400 heard that lesson, why sell pot?

00:58:51.580 It's because someone offered it to him.

00:58:53.340 Because someone said, hey, you're going to make a lot of money doing this.

00:58:55.160 If someone, could you imagine if a guy showed up to a park and he's like, hey, you want

00:58:57.640 to make some money?

00:58:58.380 What do you got to do?

00:58:58.860 I'm going to give you these t-shirts.

00:58:59.780 You go to the Metro and sell them.

00:59:02.000 We're going to make a thousand bucks.

00:59:03.380 They would do it.

00:59:04.480 But the opportunity isn't there.

00:59:05.960 Oh, no.

00:59:06.500 Oh, no.

00:59:07.760 That's why he set it up.

00:59:09.800 I'm saying like, if someone goes to a young person and says, how would you like to work

00:59:15.980 one day a week and make a thousand bucks?

00:59:17.440 Okay, okay, okay.

00:59:18.980 They're going to say yes.

00:59:20.180 But what happens is the people who run these businesses aren't going to young people and

00:59:23.660 making these offers in the city, at least where I come from, that never happened.

00:59:26.500 It's like, if you want a job, you got to work at McDonald's.

00:59:28.780 Nobody wants to do that because they consider it demeaning.

00:59:31.440 You're not cool.

00:59:32.460 Some people do it and they're like, I got a real job.

00:59:34.000 It's fine.

00:59:34.360 It's like, okay, congratulations.

00:59:35.500 After taxes, you're going to take home 80 bucks.

00:59:37.540 And then the kid who gets the dealer who comes to him and says,

00:59:39.800 hey, sell these to your friends and to the people you know, he's making several hundred

00:59:42.760 bucks a week and he doesn't have the same kind of boss.

00:59:46.020 Yeah.

00:59:46.400 Yeah.

00:59:46.620 But that's when the parents come in.

00:59:48.960 I know.

00:59:49.440 Yeah.

00:59:49.740 You need good parents.

00:59:50.660 I mean, if your parents were there and said, hey, we're going to make way more money selling

00:59:53.440 socks on the highway.

00:59:54.640 And then that's where Lyndon B. Johnson come in.

00:59:57.800 He always brings up Lyndon B.

00:59:58.900 I know, bro, because it's crazy, bro.

01:00:00.440 He took the black.

01:00:01.140 I mean, I'm not going to say he did it, but you know.

01:00:03.280 It was a big deal.

01:00:04.900 You know, well, if you take a look like the famous pictures from Selma, the civil rights

01:00:09.620 march, it's all these black people that are wearing suits.

01:00:12.620 Yeah.

01:00:12.960 And that was the intent.

01:00:13.920 It was like, look, man, like we're middle class people.

01:00:15.620 We're regular working people.

01:00:17.140 We we don't want to be discriminated against.

01:00:19.640 And then now today.

01:00:21.820 Oh, man.

01:00:22.320 Today is terrible.

01:00:23.620 The T second spider.

01:00:26.200 Hail star.

01:00:26.960 Didn't even that.

01:00:27.620 You know, like, man, I got to shout out the movie A Bronx Tale.

01:00:33.260 Have you guys seen that one?

01:00:34.260 I've seen it, but I haven't seen it.

01:00:36.500 Bronx Tale.

01:00:36.920 Like it's like passively like.

01:00:38.040 I know exactly what you're talking about.

01:00:39.240 It's good because it deals with like growing up like Italian immigrants growing up with

01:00:42.840 like organized crime, but also the black community and the in the animosity and stuff.

01:00:46.420 But there's like a scene where the the mob boss guy, Sonny, is mentioning like black

01:00:51.540 entertainer because he's he's like, screw the racist, man, because the main character, he's

01:00:55.200 into this black girl.

01:00:56.140 But that's not allowed in the 60s.

01:00:57.380 It was like he's like, doesn't matter what anybody tells you, you love what you love.

01:01:01.180 And he's like this tough mob boss.

01:01:02.440 Is that the one with Forrest Whitaker?

01:01:04.800 No, no, no, no.

01:01:05.500 This is from the 80s or like early 90s.

01:01:07.440 OK, my bad.

01:01:08.460 So but it's it's it's awesome.

01:01:11.500 But he basically makes a point about, you know, like black entertainers in the 30s, 40s

01:01:15.080 and 50s.

01:01:15.660 And these are suit wearing guys.

01:01:17.800 These are like well off.

01:01:20.000 And the culture that they're showing off is, I guess, call it more noble.

01:01:24.880 Classy.

01:01:25.620 Classy.

01:01:25.980 And it was like, I'm going to wear a suit and I'm a tie and I'm going to look good.

01:01:28.940 And these were massively famous musicians, despite Jim Crow and the racism that that

01:01:34.600 was was prevalent.

01:01:35.960 Yeah.

01:01:36.160 Today, you got Lil Nas X giving a BJ to the devil.

01:01:39.800 Yeah.

01:01:40.100 Yeah.

01:01:40.540 And don't get me wrong.

01:01:41.480 Like you've got white people doing it as well.

01:01:43.120 I think it's a total cultural thing across the board.

01:01:45.500 But, you know, what happened?

01:01:47.480 You know what's crazy?

01:01:48.240 I feel like I feel like I play in the record labels.

01:01:49.820 No, I was about to say, I feel like in music, a lot of these like music videos lately, that

01:01:54.580 demonic stuff is so normalized.

01:01:56.260 Yeah.

01:01:56.940 I could tell you like five, six videos off the top of my head where they like new ones,

01:02:01.260 where they're just showing demons and demonic stuff.

01:02:03.640 Like it's just normal.

01:02:04.580 That's weird to me.

01:02:05.780 A lot of stuff is being normalized.

01:02:07.600 Actually, I almost think like being gay is normalized, especially in TV and movies.

01:02:12.120 Like I feel like every new show or I could every new show or movie has something gay

01:02:18.480 in it almost always.

01:02:20.240 In my opinion, I feel like everybody be having to attack on Christianity.

01:02:23.480 Oh, yeah.

01:02:24.060 And the other races, not other races, other religions, you can't say nothing about them.

01:02:28.920 It's just so crazy to me.

01:02:30.220 For sure.

01:02:30.620 I never really noticed it to me because to me, it was just like I would just watch it,

01:02:35.380 you know.

01:02:36.080 But I remember there was a show called The Boys and Brock pointed out to me, he's like,

01:02:39.900 yeah, bro, I didn't really like how they made fun of Christianity.

01:02:42.780 And I was like, you think they made fun of it?

01:02:44.960 And there's like a part where they like really actually literally discredit Christianity.

01:02:48.860 But to me, I was just watching the show.

01:02:50.440 I enjoyed the show.

01:02:51.320 I wouldn't even pay attention to that.

01:02:52.760 But when he pointed out to me, I was like, damn, like I rewatched the show like twice

01:02:56.440 since then.

01:02:56.960 So like now I'm like, damn, like he's not kidding.

01:03:00.140 Like they're actually discrediting Christianity.

01:03:02.240 And like it's gotten to the point where that show went off the rails to the point where they

01:03:06.580 even referenced January 6th in it.

01:03:08.420 I know.

01:03:08.880 Yeah.

01:03:09.020 Dude, The Boys started so.

01:03:11.740 It's so bad.

01:03:12.660 It started off good.

01:03:13.580 It started off great.

01:03:14.740 It was great.

01:03:15.660 Yeah.

01:03:15.920 The Boys originally was like superheroes in real life.

01:03:19.260 Yeah.

01:03:19.580 They got PR agencies.

01:03:20.800 They're kind of dicks.

01:03:21.740 A lot of this is for show.

01:03:23.100 But in the beginning, it's really funny because I think in season one, Homelander actually is

01:03:27.920 trying to save people.

01:03:28.880 Yeah.

01:03:29.180 There's like a scene where the train crash or something.

01:03:30.840 And it's like, okay, guys, we got to save these people.

01:03:32.320 And then they decided, let's just make Homelander Trump.

01:03:35.540 And he's a lunatic who drinks breast milk.

01:03:38.340 And like, it just makes no sense anymore.

01:03:41.100 The shock value is forced.

01:03:42.440 It's ridiculous now.

01:03:43.620 They really lost me.

01:03:45.000 I really like the show.

01:03:46.040 It's like I told you, I watched it three times.

01:03:47.540 Like, I really liked it.

01:03:48.500 But the new season with me, I was like, oh, my gosh, this is almost unbearable.

01:03:52.680 Like, it's almost like the way they had like the two factions, the Homelander faction versus

01:03:58.100 the Starlighters.

01:03:59.340 Oh, my gosh.

01:04:00.060 That is the most obvious ploy at Trump supporters versus Kamala supporters I've ever seen.

01:04:05.280 It's literally blatant.

01:04:07.000 Yeah, dude.

01:04:07.640 You just got cringe.

01:04:08.400 It's sad.

01:04:08.660 Oh, it's bad.

01:04:09.260 It was good.

01:04:10.280 But I think it's an obvious question.

01:04:11.760 Are you guys Christians?

01:04:12.540 Yes.

01:04:12.820 Of course.

01:04:13.260 Have you always been?

01:04:14.040 Yes, sir.

01:04:14.580 Of course.

01:04:14.960 So that's a big thing about politics is they always like to prop up the black church in

01:04:20.760 media when it comes to politics.

01:04:22.700 Like, they say, oh, the black church has so much power.

01:04:24.880 Is that true?

01:04:26.000 Yeah.

01:04:26.280 Yeah.

01:04:26.760 Actually, you know what's crazy?

01:04:27.920 As far as influence on what you decide?

01:04:30.260 Yeah.

01:04:30.700 You know what's crazy?

01:04:31.740 This guy at the mall stopped me.

01:04:33.120 He was an older guy.

01:04:34.280 I remember I was at the mall one day.

01:04:35.500 I work at a mall, like, part-time.

01:04:37.200 But this guy, he was staring at me.

01:04:39.320 He's a black guy.

01:04:39.940 I was like, you want something?

01:04:43.560 I'm like, he came up to me, I didn't, I watch your videos all the time.

01:04:47.020 And we were, like, talking.

01:04:48.360 He's like, he loves the videos, loves what we do.

01:04:51.100 And he said, there's a book I need to read.

01:04:52.860 And it was called, like, The Black Preacher, The Black Politician, and The Black, it's three,

01:04:58.680 it's like the three pillars or something.

01:05:01.260 It was The Black Preacher, The Black Politician.

01:05:03.360 I know what you're talking about.

01:05:04.260 Like, The Black, like, Celebrity or something.

01:05:05.860 Yeah, something like that.

01:05:06.280 And it's talking about how all three of these things are used to, like, influence black

01:05:10.120 people.

01:05:11.080 So, like, now that you mention the black church, like, the influence on the black church is

01:05:14.060 great, especially with the older generations.

01:05:16.020 Oh, yeah.

01:05:16.440 Oh, my gosh, the influence is insane.

01:05:18.480 Growing up at my grandma's church, man.

01:05:20.060 Yeah, Sunday church is a real big deal.

01:05:21.720 It's all Democrat?

01:05:22.880 Yeah, because I remember, like, growing up, we used to have, like, the food for thought.

01:05:27.420 And, like, thinking about it now, a lot of the talking points was more leaning left than

01:05:32.240 leaning right, right?

01:05:33.780 That's kind of wild to me that the church has become this.

01:05:37.920 And I don't mean the black church.

01:05:39.300 You know, there's a church not too far from here, and it says, like, everyone is welcome,

01:05:43.720 and it's got the progress pride flag, which goes well beyond, like, LGBTQ.

01:05:47.680 It's got, like, the purple ring in it and everything.

01:05:49.680 And then you've got, like, these churches have gone woke to the point where it doesn't even

01:05:54.480 look like Christianity anymore.

01:05:55.580 Yeah, see, I think the thing with that is, like, okay, as Christians, you know, we're

01:05:59.500 called to love people and this and that.

01:06:00.920 But at the same time, I feel like you can love someone and show respect to them without

01:06:04.340 agreeing.

01:06:05.160 I don't agree with this.

01:06:06.480 No, I don't.

01:06:07.360 I'm not going to demonize you for it.

01:06:08.920 I'm going to, you know, I'm going to invite you to church.

01:06:10.480 Yes, you can come to church and this and that.

01:06:11.500 But at the same time, you know, like, we don't, I don't agree with this, and I don't.

01:06:14.720 And that's what it is.

01:06:15.840 So that's what I think about that.

01:06:17.240 I think that's big, sorry.

01:06:18.700 I was going to say, I feel like, you know, with the trans and the LGBTQ community, I feel like

01:06:24.280 as a Christian, that shows confusion.

01:06:26.420 And I feel like God is not confusion.

01:06:29.360 So when you keep seeing that, it's just, it's just, it's just crazy to me.

01:06:33.760 Again, like Brock said, I don't have to agree with everything people do.

01:06:37.200 But the fact that we don't agree, we don't have to be enemies.

01:06:39.620 Like, to me, I'm not gay.

01:06:41.740 I'm straight.

01:06:42.460 So obviously, I don't agree with being gay.

01:06:44.280 But if you want to be gay, that's your decision.

01:06:45.860 Whatever people choose to do with their life, as long as it doesn't affect me and we have

01:06:49.500 respect for each other when we, you know.

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01:08:19.020 That's cool with me.

01:08:20.180 Like, again, like, I just feel like a lot of people make it seem like if we don't agree,

01:08:24.540 we have to be enemies and we're like some sort of bad person.

01:08:27.520 Like, to me, it's like, look, I don't have to agree with what you say.

01:08:29.860 You don't have to agree with what I say.

01:08:30.920 And we don't have to be enemies.

01:08:32.360 We could just not agree.

01:08:33.800 It's really not that deep.

01:08:35.320 It's the crazy thing.

01:08:36.220 Like, Seamus Coughlin, who does Freedom Tunes back in town,

01:08:40.220 and he comes on Tim Kessler all the time, and he's a devout Catholic.

01:08:43.980 There's a lot of things we don't agree on.

01:08:45.380 But we're laughing and hanging out every day.

01:08:47.020 We make jokes, and, like, he's a really good friend of ours.

01:08:50.760 We don't agree.

01:08:51.860 But then there's wokeness.

01:08:54.500 And if you even say any kind of—if you question any of the orthodoxy at all,

01:08:58.860 they will attack you.

01:09:00.540 They will demonize you.

01:09:01.600 They will say, you're racist.

01:09:02.880 Get out.

01:09:03.360 You can't be involved and all that stuff.

01:09:05.040 Yeah, I think that's a big problem.

01:09:06.980 I think that the, like—we watched a video.

01:09:09.140 We reacted to it a while back.

01:09:10.320 It was, like, with these kids, right?

01:09:11.620 And they were, like, kids of both sides, Trump supporters and Kamala supporters.

01:09:15.440 Are you talking about on CNN?

01:09:16.280 Yeah, and it was, like, the kids who were, you know, like, Trump supporters,

01:09:19.760 their parents were.

01:09:20.380 It was, like, they asked them, would your parents let you go to a Kamala supporter's house?

01:09:25.060 And they were, like, yeah, yeah, you know?

01:09:26.240 Like, they would.

01:09:27.220 And then they asked the Kamala kids, would your parents let you go to a Trump supporter's house?

01:09:30.540 They were, like, oh, no, never.

01:09:32.660 Crazy.

01:09:32.760 And I was, like, but then the people on the left called the people on the right divisive.

01:09:35.660 It's, like, what?

01:09:36.860 Y'all call us divisive, but then—and it's, like, Shane Gillis said this, too.

01:09:41.360 He was, like, if you can't make an endorsement, we know who you voting for.

01:09:44.000 Right.

01:09:44.240 I was, like, so that's divisive.

01:09:45.580 I can't even say who I'm voting for.

01:09:47.080 Or else y'all go, oh, my gosh, he's voting for Trump.

01:09:50.420 He's a da-da-da-da-da.

01:09:51.620 But y'all say we're divisive.

01:09:53.220 That doesn't make sense to me.

01:09:54.480 Yeah.

01:09:55.400 No, I think that's big.

01:09:57.960 I think it's also very ironic that the left calls the right divisive, and the left has all these labels.

01:10:03.820 They come up with all the labels.

01:10:04.780 They invented it.

01:10:05.440 The cancel culture, they come up with the labels that shut people up, all these isms, and phobics, and it's always—it's all from the left.

01:10:13.880 And it's all used to discredit and divide people.

01:10:16.160 They've been—like, you guys mentioned the black graduation ceremony.

01:10:18.820 That was, like, a big deal, I think, a few years ago.

01:10:21.140 I don't know if it was Harvard or somebody was doing an all-black graduation.

01:10:24.280 Yeah.

01:10:24.660 And it's like—

01:10:25.240 UT did one.

01:10:26.200 USC did one.

01:10:26.780 USC did one.

01:10:27.820 That seems crazy to me.

01:10:29.420 It is crazy.

01:10:30.140 To me, I wouldn't go.

01:10:31.420 I'm mixed, so do I go or not?

01:10:32.920 You know?

01:10:33.840 I go for half of it, and I leave.

01:10:35.500 It doesn't make sense.

01:10:36.580 It's crazy because that's like Jim Crow.

01:10:38.700 That's exactly—this is what we did.

01:10:40.740 We fought again.

01:10:41.360 Wait, I thought we wanted it all integrated in schools, right?

01:10:43.560 That's what we wanted.

01:10:44.140 Oh, wait, now we don't want that no more.

01:10:45.500 What?

01:10:45.800 Is it—like, okay, you guys probably have a ton of friends with different racial backgrounds.

01:10:49.960 100%.

01:10:50.240 For sure.

01:10:50.820 Isn't it kind of wild to be like, hey, I'm having my graduation.

01:10:53.360 You can come watch, but we're not going to have a—like, we're both graduating right

01:10:55.840 now, but I'm going to go over here with a racial group of people, not my friends.

01:10:58.980 It doesn't make any sense at all.

01:10:59.580 That's absurd.

01:11:00.380 It's also crazy to me.

01:11:01.520 It's like, you're in class with all these people, and you make friends in class, and

01:11:05.380 y'all grinding, struggling together, and when y'all finally made it, you don't want

01:11:08.800 to graduate with them.

01:11:09.520 Exactly.

01:11:09.760 Y'all don't want to enjoy that moment together.

01:11:10.960 Like, when I was in grad school in Louisiana, I was a GA, so I'm the only black GA, so

01:11:16.860 all the other GAs are something else, at least in the business school for the first

01:11:21.540 year I was there, well, the two years I was there.

01:11:23.640 So, like, I wouldn't have wanted to graduate without them.

01:11:26.860 Like, we was in class together, struggling, we doing all this stuff.

01:11:29.380 I'm like, I want to graduate with y'all, y'all my people.

01:11:31.860 But this is like the new segregation.

01:11:33.640 No, it's crazy.

01:11:34.640 It's crazy.

01:11:34.960 They're just claiming that black people want the segregation.

01:11:37.520 I'm just surprised, if you feel that way, why you just don't go to an HBCU?

01:11:42.580 Facts.

01:11:43.520 Facts.

01:11:44.320 I just don't understand that.

01:11:46.980 Like, how does that make sense in your head?

01:11:49.160 Dude, it sounds like a nightmare to me.

01:11:51.440 There was, like, a story out of California where this university created racialized dorms.

01:11:55.820 Oh, wow.

01:11:56.380 Yeah, where it's like the black people are in this dorm, the Asian people are in this

01:11:58.720 dorm, the white people are in this dorm, and I'm like, that's the weirdest thing.

01:12:02.240 That's insane to me.

01:12:03.180 I don't want to do that.

01:12:04.280 Hell no.

01:12:04.760 I got, I don't care what my friends are.

01:12:06.380 Moving backwards.

01:12:07.460 Exactly.

01:12:08.880 They say, y'all so divisive, and then you're going to put everybody in their own race.

01:12:13.280 Isn't that the kind of wild thing, though?

01:12:14.920 Because, like, it does seem a bit cliche, but it's the Democratic Party that was the party

01:12:19.180 of the Confederacy.

01:12:20.240 Yes.

01:12:20.900 That they wanted to defend slavery.

01:12:22.820 And I know a lot of people are immediately going to be like, that's not what the Civil War

01:12:25.240 was about.

01:12:25.500 I'm not saying that, but they did have in their constitution, they wanted to enshrine slavery.

01:12:28.540 That was the principal factor that was causing division in the United States.

01:12:31.820 And then it's like, every step of the way up until the Civil Rights Movement, the Democrats

01:12:36.220 are on the side of some form of segregation.

01:12:38.820 The Klan members, you know, a lot of people say, like, the Klan was the Democratic Party.

01:12:42.380 Well, the Klan members were Democrats, you know, say whatever you want.

01:12:45.600 So the conspiracy theory is, and I think, I don't know if you guys would agree with this,

01:12:49.980 we probably would, the Democrats realized the negative approach doesn't work.

01:12:55.220 That if we spend all of our time and energy saying, we want these things because, you

01:13:01.140 know, like the Democrats were saying, oh, white people should have their own spaces or

01:13:03.640 something.

01:13:04.580 At some point, they were like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:13:06.580 Let's trick them.

01:13:07.240 Let's flip it around and act like the black people are the ones who want segregation.

01:13:11.700 And now, we're in this period where it is for the benefit of ending racism, they're

01:13:17.220 doing what they call like DEI ceremonies and non-DEI ceremonies.

01:13:21.480 It's crazy.

01:13:22.180 It's still the Democrats still advocating for the exact same things they've always

01:13:25.700 advocated for while claiming they're not the racist ones.

01:13:28.300 Yeah.

01:13:28.960 That is, that is, that's what everybody said.

01:13:31.440 Another thing is like, remember when in the football, in the NFL, they had in racism on

01:13:35.700 the helmets, in racism on the fields.

01:13:37.720 I paid.

01:13:38.040 Like, brother, what?

01:13:40.240 Even if, okay, so say that America was racist and this is whatever, 18, whatever.

01:13:44.760 Do you think someone's going to see that and be like, oh, okay.

01:13:47.680 Since they told me to, you know.

01:13:48.740 You got me.

01:13:49.280 I guess I'll just do it now.

01:13:50.900 Like, y'all are, that is a PR move.

01:13:53.200 Like, it's, I don't see how people don't see through that either.

01:13:55.920 I wonder if a lot of it, like I was saying in the beginning about redlining, that our parents

01:14:00.600 and our grandparents in this country did actually see all the, all the racism.

01:14:05.060 Right, right, yeah.

01:14:05.440 And, and, uh, like blockbusting is crazy and it still happens.

01:14:09.760 I wonder if, so in their mindset, their whole life, they've been seeing these things.

01:14:13.620 Now we're younger and the younger generation is just kind of over it to a certain degree,

01:14:18.480 but it's being kept on life support.

01:14:20.600 I can't remember whose quote that was.

01:14:21.900 It might've been Larry Elder or Thomas Hull, that racism is being kept on life support by

01:14:25.840 the race hustlers and the grifters and the Democrats.

01:14:27.980 But I think the reason it's able to is because these politicians go to older generations and

01:14:33.100 says, remember all the racism?

01:14:34.200 It's still here.

01:14:35.100 We need these policies.

01:14:36.240 And they, they agree with it.

01:14:37.600 Right.

01:14:37.820 And the younger people are like, why can't I graduate with my friend?

01:14:40.300 I don't understand.

01:14:40.820 It's like, well, he's black.

01:14:41.540 He's going to the black graduation.

01:14:42.880 And you're like, what?

01:14:44.420 I can't, I just want to hang out with my friends, man.

01:14:46.180 I don't care about that.

01:14:47.420 Yeah.

01:14:48.720 It's just, it's just crazy, bro.

01:14:50.860 Nowadays, bro.

01:14:51.860 No, it's absolutely crazy out here.

01:14:53.660 I don't really understand it.

01:14:55.280 Like to me, like I saw, there's this thing at Arizona state.

01:14:58.960 They had like a, a racial like floor on the library.

01:15:03.480 I actually just want to tell him to pull that up.

01:15:05.220 I was actually thinking about that.

01:15:06.580 I don't know if you've seen that.

01:15:07.460 What is it?

01:15:07.760 So they have like this, this thing at Arizona state.

01:15:10.120 It's like a floor for like.

01:15:11.840 It's a video.

01:15:12.540 It's a video.

01:15:13.000 And these black girls basically go press these two white guys.

01:15:15.500 Oh, right.

01:15:16.100 Yeah.

01:15:16.540 It was super viral.

01:15:17.560 Yelling at them.

01:15:18.320 You're sitting there like, why are you yelling at us?

01:15:20.120 Yeah.

01:15:21.000 Just chilling.

01:15:21.780 Like, we want to use this.

01:15:22.400 No, why?

01:15:23.200 No, this is our space to get away from people like you.

01:15:25.640 Like, what the hell were they doing?

01:15:27.400 Imagine if this was reversed.

01:15:28.580 That's what I always do.

01:15:29.420 When I think, I see a situation, okay, reverse the roles.

01:15:32.700 It's white people in there say, oh, we're trying to get away from y'all.

01:15:34.840 That's why.

01:15:35.820 Oh my gosh.

01:15:37.020 Oh my gosh.

01:15:37.980 Everybody burn this whole place down.

01:15:39.720 That's what they would do.

01:15:40.760 That's why they created that thing.

01:15:42.260 Let's go, Luke.

01:15:43.180 Academy.

01:15:44.340 They created that racism can only be from a position of privilege.

01:15:48.180 Yeah.

01:15:48.460 That is absurd to me.

01:15:49.260 I don't agree with that.

01:15:49.560 That is absurd to me.

01:15:50.560 Racism is literally prejudice.

01:15:52.020 I remember.

01:15:52.280 They said, do you hate these people?

01:15:53.780 You're racist.

01:15:54.360 No, facts.

01:15:55.180 You don't have to have power over them.

01:15:55.760 It's crazy because I've heard black people say, like, to justify, like, their racism against

01:16:00.380 others.

01:16:00.680 Oh, black people can't be racist.

01:16:02.180 They can be prejudiced.

01:16:03.060 But if you look up the textbook definition of racism, it's prejudice against another race.

01:16:07.340 They change the word to try and make an argument because there's no argument.

01:16:11.180 Exactly.

01:16:11.520 It bums me out because I really did feel like when I was younger, I had friends of all

01:16:17.760 different backgrounds.

01:16:18.280 And I was like, you know, isn't this cool?

01:16:20.400 Like, there's no racism.

01:16:21.560 We're friends.

01:16:22.340 And the funny thing is, one kid called everybody by their racial slur.

01:16:26.200 Yeah, he called me and my brother Gook.

01:16:28.180 Oh, wow.

01:16:28.660 Because we're part Korean.

01:16:29.700 And we thought it was funny.

01:16:31.360 It was just funny.

01:16:32.480 I didn't even know what that was.

01:16:34.300 Oh, that's the Korean one.

01:16:36.100 Okay.

01:16:36.720 Wow.

01:16:37.060 I never heard it.

01:16:37.740 This is my first time.

01:16:38.600 But we were all friends.

01:16:40.680 And he was like Eric Cartman.

01:16:42.140 And so we're hanging out.

01:16:43.780 We're skating.

01:16:44.260 We're going to the shop.

01:16:45.360 And he'd make a crude joke.

01:16:47.380 And we'd all laugh.

01:16:47.780 We loved George Carlin.

01:16:49.260 George Carlin has that famous bit where he goes on stage and says, every racial slur imaginable.

01:16:53.440 Really?

01:16:54.100 Yeah.

01:16:54.380 And then he calls Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor the N-word.

01:16:57.720 And he makes the point that, you know, it's not, I don't mean it.

01:17:00.940 You know that it's meant to be a joke.

01:17:02.180 That, like, his point was, don't let words bother you.

01:17:06.300 It's the person.

01:17:07.060 It's the person and their intention.

01:17:08.580 And he was like, and then he literally just says every racial slur.

01:17:11.720 And he was a liberal guy.

01:17:13.440 And everyone loved him.

01:17:14.940 So my friends, we grew up, like, we were all relatively liberal.

01:17:17.720 And my friend was like, I want to be like George Carlin.

01:17:19.560 I'm going to do these edgy jokes and be offensive.

01:17:21.300 But it was almost just like we understood that he was our friend.

01:17:24.980 And he was, you know, like poking at us by doing these things.

01:17:27.760 We didn't care about it.

01:17:28.800 Yeah.

01:17:29.060 Now it's like, I can't imagine what it's like to be a young kid these days.

01:17:33.000 You go online and you say the wrong word.

01:17:36.000 You reference a word.

01:17:37.240 Now it's funny, like the word unalived.

01:17:40.100 Because if you go on YouTube or Instagram and you say killed, they derank you or shadow ban you.

01:17:44.220 So Gen Z starts saying unalived instead.

01:17:46.200 And a whole bunch of other terms.

01:17:47.620 Yeah.

01:17:47.880 Because they're trying to avoid censorship.

01:17:49.340 Oh, yeah.

01:17:49.820 That's a weird world.

01:17:50.540 I noticed.

01:17:51.160 And even with the, like, it's a different kind of topic.

01:17:53.280 But the pedophiles and stuff, they say you got to say minor attracted person.

01:17:56.720 Oh, that's them defending.

01:17:58.120 Let's not offend the pedophile.

01:18:00.980 What?

01:18:01.780 What?

01:18:02.020 They did a lot more than to offend people.

01:18:04.360 He was trying to legalize that.

01:18:05.980 Bruh.

01:18:06.420 That's what's crazy to me still to this day, bro.

01:18:08.920 It's crazy the things you discover when you start paying attention in it.

01:18:11.800 No, literally.

01:18:12.940 Literally.

01:18:13.580 I feel like my eyes have been open.

01:18:16.060 Like, I was telling Solomon in this on the plane.

01:18:20.540 What's that thing at the airport?

01:18:21.660 Whatever.

01:18:22.080 The thing that takes you from the terminal to the bus.

01:18:24.540 The little bus thing?

01:18:25.480 The bus, yeah.

01:18:26.320 That was insane.

01:18:26.920 I've never seen that.

01:18:27.840 Yeah.

01:18:28.060 It was cool.

01:18:28.740 I didn't even know what to call it.

01:18:29.800 Like, it was like a-

01:18:30.300 The little bus.

01:18:31.100 On the truck bus.

01:18:31.760 That takes you, I guess, to the baggage claim.

01:18:33.880 From the terminal.

01:18:34.880 You know how, like, it's like the big old tank thing.

01:18:37.200 It looks like the Avatar.

01:18:37.940 Yeah, we on Avatar.

01:18:39.920 Literally.

01:18:41.020 He knows what we're talking about.

01:18:42.180 Yeah.

01:18:42.480 Yeah.

01:18:43.120 But no, we were, uh, we was talking to him.

01:18:46.020 I was like, man, ever since we started paying attention to politics, when I watch a new show

01:18:50.340 or a movie, I can realize how political everything is.

01:18:53.380 Yeah.

01:18:53.780 Like, it's, like, insane, like, how my eyes have been opened.

01:18:58.480 This one really bums me out because I think conservatives people on the right never did

01:19:03.760 enough to defend what was good, but they did a whole lot to complain about what was bad.

01:19:07.480 Oh, for sure.

01:19:08.320 So, the easiest reference is Marvel because Marvel, in the 2010s, every movie was a billion

01:19:12.920 dollars.

01:19:13.520 And that's, like, unheard of.

01:19:15.380 I just watched the iRobot the other day.

01:19:16.940 That movie's really good, buddy.

01:19:17.780 It is.

01:19:17.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:18.600 With Will Smith?

01:19:19.320 Yeah.

01:19:19.720 Classic.

01:19:20.320 He's so good in that movie.

01:19:21.620 And it was a hundred million dollar budget made three hundred million dollars, and that

01:19:24.100 was a smash hit.

01:19:25.260 Now they do, like, a hundred million dollar Marvel.

01:19:27.180 It makes a billion, two billion dollars.

01:19:28.920 Yeah.

01:19:29.600 But I, so, the first Captain America movie, it's like a conservative dream.

01:19:35.540 It's about a guy who's trying to lie his way into the army to serve his country.

01:19:38.580 Yeah.

01:19:38.760 Yeah.

01:19:38.900 And we didn't get a bunch of videos of conservatives being like, this is the best movie, this is

01:19:42.720 the message we want for our kids.

01:19:43.920 The second Captain America is where he realizes that the government is corrupt and been infiltrated

01:19:48.580 by evil people who are going to weaponize the power of government, and he goes against

01:19:52.800 them.

01:19:53.460 Another really important message in what it means to be an American, it's the revolution

01:19:57.540 of this country.

01:19:58.640 The founding documents, standing up for the people, and things like that.

01:20:01.680 Conservatives didn't come out and be like, what a great message.

01:20:03.800 And the communists were bad.

01:20:06.320 Basically, like, Winter Soldier was a remnant of the communists.

01:20:08.900 Yeah.

01:20:09.340 The Red Man.

01:20:10.380 But then what, yeah, right, what ends up happening is the woke activists get into Marvel, and

01:20:15.720 you can see it happen right after Infinity War.

01:20:18.400 From Infinity War, after that, they made Captain Marvel.

01:20:21.500 I think Captain Marvel came after that.

01:20:23.260 How they did Thor.

01:20:24.060 They made Thor weak.

01:20:24.980 They made Thor weak and fat.

01:20:26.340 They had the rainbows.

01:20:27.620 Yup.

01:20:28.240 Love and thunder.

01:20:28.940 Oh, I was so pissed off about that.

01:20:30.580 I loved Thor.

01:20:31.420 And I saw the last one, I said, I couldn't believe that.

01:20:34.040 This flipping of what happened in this decade-long, multi-billion-dollar franchise, and then seemingly

01:20:41.980 within a span of like a year, you can see when the woke leftist activists came in, Thor

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01:22:14.520 They made the Thor where Jane becomes Thor and everyone's like, what is Captain Marvel?

01:22:19.800 Like, let me just say this because I love ragging on it.

01:22:22.240 Captain America.

01:22:23.220 It's like 2010 or whatever.

01:22:24.740 They made this movie.

01:22:26.320 He's a scrawny guy who tries lying his way to join the army because he wants to serve his

01:22:30.300 country desperately.

01:22:31.360 He jumps on the grenade.

01:22:32.760 He's a hero.

01:22:33.560 He's granted powers.

01:22:34.900 And I'm like, hey, man, that's like a very pro-America message.

01:22:37.200 Like, serve your country, right?

01:22:38.800 Captain Marvel's story was she accidentally becomes super powerful with, like, godlike

01:22:43.180 powers.

01:22:44.020 And then a man, Jude Law, puts an inhibitor on her that suppresses her powers.

01:22:49.680 And then he keeps telling her, control your emotions.

01:22:52.300 Yeah.

01:22:52.660 The end of the movie.

01:22:53.620 That's crazy.

01:22:54.260 For Captain America is he sacrifices himself to defeat Hydra, the Nazis.

01:22:58.560 And he gets frozen and he loses the love of his life.

01:23:00.800 The end of Captain Marvel is she overcomes the man who is holding her back, embraces her

01:23:07.300 emotions, breaks the inhibitor chip and defeats him.

01:23:09.900 There's no big grandiose finale.

01:23:11.780 It's not like she saves the universe.

01:23:13.600 She literally just beats her commanding officer who's a man telling her to suppress her emotions.

01:23:17.520 And I'm like, it made a billion dollars because people like Marvel.

01:23:21.460 But after that, everything started tanking.

01:23:23.780 So, like, at the time when this was going on, I was trying to be like, no, no, no.

01:23:28.240 Like, I like this.

01:23:29.420 Like, I like Marvel.

01:23:30.220 And then after a few movies, I was like, I don't want to watch one of these again.

01:23:32.840 Yeah, me too.

01:23:33.520 I loved Marvel until, like, you broke it down perfectly of, like, when it happened.

01:23:38.740 Because I didn't, in my brain, I couldn't realize when it happened.

01:23:41.080 Because I grew up watching them, you know?

01:23:42.500 I remember going to the theaters.

01:23:43.880 And they're like, now I'm grown.

01:23:44.760 I'm like, damn, they so woke.

01:23:46.740 But I wasn't political, so I didn't know.

01:23:49.860 Elon just exposed that, though, like, with the X, how Twitter was before and then how Twitter is now

01:23:54.940 when he had all the pictures with all the girls and then the pictures with the men.

01:23:57.940 That's what it is, pretty much.

01:23:59.240 No, facts.

01:24:00.000 I'm glad you pointed out how woke Marvel went because I really loved the first Black Panther.

01:24:04.280 That's probably my woke Marvel movie.

01:24:04.680 Oh, me too.

01:24:05.680 I was great.

01:24:06.520 I was, like, not even like, oh, this is a black representation movie.

01:24:09.960 Just, like, the movie, the soundtrack.

01:24:11.680 It was good.

01:24:12.420 Everybody loved it.

01:24:13.020 We saw it in 3D.

01:24:13.800 Yeah.

01:24:14.380 I saw it two, three times.

01:24:15.480 Yeah.

01:24:15.660 It was so good.

01:24:16.900 The second one, I was irate.

01:24:19.400 I was so mad.

01:24:20.460 I was sitting by my mom.

01:24:22.580 I was talking in the theater.

01:24:23.460 I kept saying stuff out loud.

01:24:24.480 My mom was like, you have to be quiet.

01:24:25.420 Is that the one with the, uh, yes.

01:24:28.360 I like that one.

01:24:29.680 It wasn't that bad.

01:24:30.700 It wasn't that bad.

01:24:31.580 He was a good villain.

01:24:32.480 He was a great villain.

01:24:33.420 Absolutely awful to me.

01:24:34.500 Let me tell you about the first Black Panther.

01:24:36.720 The woke people went nuts loving it.

01:24:38.200 They called it a diverse movie.

01:24:39.700 Yeah.

01:24:39.960 Despite, like, 90% of the actors in it are black.

01:24:41.700 And I'm like, yo, it's not diverse.

01:24:43.340 I got no problem with it being Black Panther with black characters.

01:24:46.240 I thought it was really good.

01:24:47.580 And a lot of people on the right didn't like it.

01:24:49.180 They're like, no, it was terrible.

01:24:49.900 I'm like, no, it was really good.

01:24:50.820 It was a great movie.

01:24:51.320 The politics of it is T'Challa, Black Panther, wants closed borders.

01:24:56.460 He says, we're not letting refugees in because they bring their problems.

01:24:59.180 He literally says, if we open our borders to the refugees, they're going to bring their

01:25:03.640 problems into our country with them.

01:25:05.140 He was like very Trumpian.

01:25:06.820 And it was from the perspective of an African nation.

01:25:09.420 Then Killmonger is basically like, we should arm all of the black people and have them rise

01:25:13.680 up and take control.

01:25:14.740 He was an ethno-nationalist.

01:25:16.460 And I'm like, the politics of the first one was actually pretty good.

01:25:19.580 No, actually.

01:25:20.380 I didn't notice that.

01:25:21.120 I didn't notice that.

01:25:21.800 That's exactly how it was.

01:25:22.520 That's exactly what it was.

01:25:24.000 Because in the movie, it was a bunch of nations.

01:25:27.020 It was a bunch of different nations.

01:25:28.540 Remember when he got all the leaders, he rolls them up.

01:25:30.620 He had to go get them.

01:25:31.540 It was a bunch of different nations inside Wakanda.

01:25:34.060 And it was all like their own thing.

01:25:35.860 But they knew T'Challa was the supreme leader.

01:25:38.980 And Killmonger pulled up, whooped his ass.

01:25:41.600 He was like, yeah, this is my shit now.

01:25:43.020 I was like, man, this is hard.

01:25:44.720 Would y'all consider it like him dying and giving it to his sister?

01:25:48.860 Is that woke?

01:25:49.460 I hated that as well.

01:25:50.180 No, that was woke.

01:25:50.860 Why is she a girl?

01:25:52.540 Am I hating?

01:25:53.160 Shuri is a cool character.

01:25:54.940 I might be.

01:25:55.300 But having her be Black Panther was like.

01:25:57.340 Okay.

01:25:57.680 No, yeah.

01:25:58.180 That was a flop.

01:25:59.100 She was a bad Black Panther.

01:26:00.140 She got whooped.

01:26:01.140 And her mama died.

01:26:01.960 Everybody died under her.

01:26:02.920 It wasn't that.

01:26:03.380 Yeah.

01:26:04.120 Literally, Wakanda literally failed under her.

01:26:05.800 It wasn't the main of a character in the first one to be the main character in the second

01:26:08.940 one.

01:26:09.360 No.

01:26:09.520 I thought they could have chosen.

01:26:10.520 So that's woke.

01:26:11.240 Michael B.

01:26:11.920 He done turned.

01:26:12.900 He with them now.

01:26:13.960 You know what I was thinking.

01:26:14.620 I thought I'm going to lie.

01:26:15.800 Her character in the first one was cool.

01:26:17.600 But when they turned her character into the Black Panther, it lost me.

01:26:21.280 Like when she went to college and they had all this stuff and they came and got her

01:26:23.980 like, oh, you have to be Black Panther.

01:26:25.100 I said, oh, this is already terrible.

01:26:26.200 This is already terrible.

01:26:26.820 Then the underwater people come up and whoop everybody ass.

01:26:29.880 They somehow stronger.

01:26:30.800 I actually like the underwater people.

01:26:32.020 I did.

01:26:32.560 Listen, listen, listen.

01:26:33.500 What the hell is this?

01:26:34.400 Let me tell you about wokeness.

01:26:36.000 All right.

01:26:36.140 The first thing is they could have brought back any one of the strong male characters

01:26:40.460 to take the mantle of the Black Panther.

01:26:42.720 Like there were people challenging T'Challa to be the Black Panther, but they wanted the

01:26:46.500 woman to do it.

01:26:47.360 Okay.

01:26:47.820 And so.

01:26:48.500 Flop.

01:26:49.060 Right.

01:26:49.240 Like just because they did that isn't inherently like the apocalypse.

01:26:52.300 There's ways to salvage that.

01:26:53.440 But I'll tell you the problem I have with with when woke people take over is that I'm

01:26:57.760 sorry.

01:26:58.080 I'm just going to say it.

01:26:59.640 Woke people are super racist.

01:27:01.240 You guys have seen the video of voter ID where Horowitz asks them and all the college

01:27:06.540 white kids are like all about black people.

01:27:08.180 Oh, they can't find the DMV.

01:27:09.560 It's insane, right?

01:27:12.100 It's crazy because.

01:27:14.620 But real quick, here's what happens with the second Black Panther.

01:27:17.400 Okay.

01:27:17.620 Who's the bad guy?

01:27:18.800 Namor.

01:27:19.520 Whatever.

01:27:19.960 Isn't it?

01:27:20.220 Namor.

01:27:20.660 Right.

01:27:21.520 How do they get in to Wakanda?

01:27:23.980 From the water.

01:27:24.620 Water.

01:27:25.080 Under the river, right?

01:27:25.960 Yeah.

01:27:26.360 So the Mexicans come through the river to illegally enter Wakanda.

01:27:33.020 And so I'm watching this movie and literally a bunch of Mexicans.

01:27:38.360 I'm not trying to be mean.

01:27:39.240 That's what happened.

01:27:40.080 I was trying to tell you.

01:27:40.900 That's a fact.

01:27:41.460 You shouldn't even have to say that.

01:27:43.340 Even Dr.

01:27:43.940 Umar said it.

01:27:44.360 He said the underwater Mexicans came and zipped out of Africa.

01:27:46.800 That's literally what he said.

01:27:47.420 I said, Dr.

01:27:47.920 Umar, you literally summarized it perfectly.

01:27:49.700 I didn't think about it.

01:27:50.760 When I watched it, I said it's ridiculous.

01:27:51.960 It gets crazier.

01:27:53.080 So in the beginning, they, the, the, the, the, uh, whatever they're called, they're Mexicans

01:27:58.180 that live underwater.

01:27:58.780 They cross, they come through the river and up through the barrier of Wakanda as if like

01:28:02.620 Wakanda can't secure the water or whatever.

01:28:04.000 And then they're like, how did they get in?

01:28:05.620 I can't believe they entered Wakanda through our barriers and our great wall or whatever.

01:28:09.060 They, they, they show, they show how Wakanda opens the barrier.

01:28:13.500 Okay.

01:28:14.380 In, in Infinity War, which is before the second, uh, Black Panther, when they're like, open

01:28:20.140 the barrier.

01:28:20.620 Like, so you got the aliens attacking the force field and they're like, if the aliens break

01:28:24.580 through the barrier on behind us, we're screwed.

01:28:28.200 And then T'Challa says open section seven or whatever.

01:28:30.800 So Shuri hits a button and it opens up.

01:28:33.300 The aliens all rush through and they fight them in a single file line.

01:28:36.520 Yeah.

01:28:36.700 In the second Black Panther, how do they open the barrier?

01:28:38.960 Black men are banging on bongo drums.

01:28:41.560 Okay.

01:28:42.200 That, uh, I'm, I'm like.

01:28:43.780 It changed that the, yeah.

01:28:45.020 They changed it.

01:28:45.800 And I, I feel like they, it was like some racist version of like, if black people have

01:28:50.260 computers, they bang drums.

01:28:53.160 Just press a button, dude.

01:28:55.280 That's a good observation.

01:28:56.460 Those are great observations.

01:28:58.100 But then it gets crazier.

01:28:58.800 It gets crazier.

01:28:59.700 How does Shuri defeat the Namor?

01:29:03.300 She cut his ankle, didn't she?

01:29:04.780 Well, he.

01:29:05.400 They're fighting on the beach.

01:29:06.280 They're on the beach.

01:29:07.020 He let it ride.

01:29:08.220 He has wings on his feet.

01:29:09.720 Yeah, she cut his ankle.

01:29:10.720 He gets hurt.

01:29:11.140 But that's not how she beats him.

01:29:12.340 It turns out they discover that the underwater Mexicans.

01:29:15.600 God, I'm not trying to be crass when I say this.

01:29:17.080 It's literally what the movie's about.

01:29:18.240 That when their skin is wet, it allows him to oxidize air, making him stronger.

01:29:25.080 I could not believe it, watching this movie.

01:29:27.500 She defeats him by drying him, drying off his back.

01:29:30.260 Oh, yeah.

01:29:31.320 He's standing in front of the ship and she presses the button.

01:29:33.900 That's crazy.

01:29:34.240 And it blasts his back and you see steam coming off.

01:29:36.860 So the Mexican's back was wet, which made him stronger.

01:29:41.060 And when she blasts him with fire and the steam comes off, he falls down weak and unable

01:29:46.460 to fight.

01:29:46.920 I was like, who the made this movie, dude?

01:29:49.200 That is insane.

01:29:50.900 But that is true.

01:29:51.900 I never repeat that, though.

01:29:53.180 They are so sneaky, bro.

01:29:54.080 That is crazy.

01:29:54.840 They are sneaky.

01:29:55.980 No, you want to know it's crazy?

01:29:56.900 You want to know it's crazy?

01:29:57.660 And that goes back to what you were saying.

01:29:59.040 We're going to trigger them.

01:29:59.580 I want to know another thing that you pointed out.

01:30:01.200 The underwater Mexicans came in through the dam and they drowned all the people.

01:30:04.960 That's what I was thinking the whole time.

01:30:06.680 I was like, you know, Mexican can't swim, so let's have them on water.

01:30:08.600 That made me so mad.

01:30:09.700 I was like, wait, did they just drown everybody?

01:30:11.980 They literally came in and filled the dome up with water.

01:30:14.400 They had to open the dome because it was going to fill and everybody was drowning.

01:30:16.720 Like, dude, everything about that movie was racist stereotypes.

01:30:18.760 Wow.

01:30:19.200 I didn't even beat that.

01:30:20.640 Me either.

01:30:22.820 They put all the people in Wakanda on a ship and the underwater Mexicans just pulled them

01:30:27.580 off the ship into the water and they was dying.

01:30:28.940 They couldn't swim.

01:30:30.500 Black people can't swim.

01:30:31.380 I was like, this is ridiculous.

01:30:33.360 That's why I hated that movie.

01:30:34.540 So Captain America, though.

01:30:36.160 So him handing the black guy the shield.

01:30:39.000 That's pretty woke.

01:30:39.920 I have no problem with that.

01:30:40.800 Nah, nah, man.

01:30:42.280 So this is the thing.

01:30:43.840 The left, like the woke people will try and claim that the right is mad that Sam Wilson

01:30:48.160 inherits the shield.

01:30:48.980 And I'm like, why?

01:30:49.940 Because he's black?

01:30:50.500 I don't care.

01:30:51.380 Like Falcon's an awesome character.

01:30:52.800 Yeah, he is.

01:30:53.760 So they don't like, and this is what I'm saying.

01:30:57.320 When Captain America meets Sam Wilson, it's this really great scene in the second Captain

01:31:01.960 America where they're jogging and Captain America keeps running past him.

01:31:05.800 Yeah, I remember that.

01:31:05.820 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:06.340 And then he's like, no, you don't.

01:31:07.500 And he tries running after him.

01:31:09.040 Like, who cares?

01:31:10.820 Yeah.

01:31:11.640 The criticism is not that Sam Wilson is a black guy or that he inherits the shield.

01:31:14.980 It is kind of sad that, like, you know, Chris Evans retires from the role or whatever.

01:31:17.780 But the problem is, the racism is, like, Wakanda Forever, the movie, making sure, look, the

01:31:26.240 character of Shuri, she's a genius, robotic technician, and she's super smart.

01:31:31.060 Totally fine.

01:31:32.160 There's literally nothing wrong with that.

01:31:34.020 Trying to make her Black Panther, it's like, because they want a woman, you know, they're

01:31:39.840 So this is the other thing they did with Ant-Man.

01:31:43.460 Everybody died under.

01:31:44.520 That's right.

01:31:45.620 You have Ant-Man.

01:31:46.660 That movie comes out.

01:31:47.800 Everybody loves it.

01:31:48.600 Paul Rudd's hilarious.

01:31:49.860 It's kind of like a comedy.

01:31:51.340 They tried making the second film, The Wasp and Ant-Man, and look at the cover.

01:31:56.020 Evangeline Lilly, the woman, is facing forward, and he's behind her, looking over his shoulder.

01:32:00.280 That's when they started really trying to be like, no male heroes, no white heroes, and

01:32:04.820 they were trying to be like...

01:32:06.460 They had the three movie run with the women.

01:32:08.400 They had Captain Marvel, they had Black Widow, and there was another one.

01:32:11.800 Maybe it was the Ant-Man and the Wasp one.

01:32:13.620 Might have been.

01:32:14.780 Yeah, well, I...

01:32:15.780 It was three women movies.

01:32:17.340 The Black Widow was not that good, and it's like nobody even remembers it, but Scarlett

01:32:21.780 Johansson should have got a movie a long time ago.

01:32:23.840 She's like the highest paid actress in the world.

01:32:25.900 She's been in Marvel, too, since the first Iron Man.

01:32:28.440 And so people were like, it's sexist.

01:32:30.200 They never gave her a movie because she's a superstar, and why didn't she have it?

01:32:33.780 And I'm like, I don't know that I would say it's like sexist or whatever, but I do

01:32:37.040 think they would have made a billion dollars if they made a Black Widow movie in the beginning.

01:32:39.560 Yeah.

01:32:39.920 Because everybody likes Scarlett Johansson.

01:32:41.260 Nice.

01:32:41.920 Yeah.

01:32:42.180 But anyway, like...

01:32:42.880 They're making a new Blade?

01:32:43.940 Yeah.

01:32:44.540 Yeah, apparently they're making a new Blade.

01:32:46.140 Really?

01:32:46.760 Yeah, Wesley Snipes is in it with the new actor.

01:32:48.480 It's more society, isn't it?

01:32:50.200 They got pushed back like twice.

01:32:52.180 They've pushed it back like twice now.

01:32:54.420 Yeah.

01:32:55.060 Anyway, long story short, because we're getting into movies and stuff, I enjoy the conversation,

01:32:58.720 but I feel like when these young millennials who are super woke and live this world through

01:33:04.880 everything's got to be race and racialized, it turns to garbage.

01:33:08.420 Yeah.

01:33:08.660 And then we all get bummed out on it.

01:33:10.100 Yeah.

01:33:10.180 I feel like a lot of stuff now focuses on equality and identity rather than the actual story and

01:33:17.580 substance.

01:33:18.500 Right.

01:33:19.360 Everything, I feel like a lot of movies now fall short of making it an original good movie,

01:33:25.020 and it's more focused on identity and all the crap.

01:33:27.780 This is the problem, right?

01:33:28.960 Wakanda forever had Ironheart in it.

01:33:31.420 She's a young black woman who builds a robot suit.

01:33:34.520 I'm like, okay, hold on.

01:33:35.520 That's just Iron Man, but you've made Iron Man into a black woman.

01:33:37.700 That was Shuri's roommate.

01:33:38.700 Yeah.

01:33:39.120 Yeah.

01:33:39.440 And then you have the problem, the wokeness, what I would describe as an element of wokeness

01:33:43.880 for the new Captain America.

01:33:45.460 It's called Brave New World, I think.

01:33:47.400 I don't know.

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01:35:12.960 It's supposed to be called New World.

01:35:16.040 It's where Sam Wilson is now Captain America.

01:35:18.340 The problem I have with this is you're giving, it's hand-me-down heroes.

01:35:22.340 Yeah.

01:35:22.900 So you have Spider-Man and they're like, I got an idea.

01:35:25.160 It's Spider-Man, but he's black.

01:35:27.240 And they make, that's what they did.

01:35:28.980 They make Miles Morales.

01:35:29.920 Yeah.

01:35:30.260 And I was like, I got an idea.

01:35:31.860 Why don't you make a new superhero?

01:35:33.780 And make him black.

01:35:34.500 And he's black.

01:35:35.500 It's crazy because if you know like comic book lore, there's thousands, literally thousands

01:35:40.220 of people they can pick from.

01:35:41.300 So they, so you've got, what's the guy's name who plays Sam Wilson?

01:35:47.020 Anthony?

01:35:47.720 Mackie.

01:35:48.520 Anthony Mackie, is it?

01:35:49.440 Yeah.

01:35:49.580 He's great.

01:35:50.580 But they're just making him Captain America.

01:35:52.300 And it's like, it's kind of just hand-me-down.

01:35:54.640 Why didn't they just make The Falcon?

01:35:56.620 Yeah.

01:35:57.100 His character's fantastic.

01:35:58.180 I'd love to see that movie.

01:35:59.380 Yeah.

01:35:59.520 Why does it gotta be hand-me-down?

01:36:00.700 I don't know about that.

01:36:01.100 Yeah.

01:36:01.180 The white guy retired, now it's the black guy's movie afterwards.

01:36:03.840 It doesn't feel good.

01:36:04.960 Yeah.

01:36:05.180 When he handed him that, I was like, oh, I don't know if I like that.

01:36:08.280 I don't think it's woke for him to receive the shield.

01:36:11.620 I think that's a character arc for a story.

01:36:15.060 Whatever.

01:36:15.300 It's fine.

01:36:15.920 But in terms of our industry in Hollywood, they were like, Captain America 4 will now

01:36:20.320 be played by Sam Wilson.

01:36:21.780 And I'm like, shouldn't The Falcon have his own movie?

01:36:24.680 Yeah.

01:36:25.220 He's a superhero.

01:36:26.160 I got a question.

01:36:26.940 He's a cool hero, too.

01:36:28.000 Why do you think Hollywood is so woke?

01:36:29.340 Do you think that's how they try to normalize it, through movies and film and TV?

01:36:32.860 Yep.

01:36:33.620 Yeah.

01:36:34.520 They've controlled the institutions.

01:36:36.240 I should say they, as in leftist ideologues for a long time.

01:36:41.300 Social media.

01:36:42.440 And they are really, really good at taking control of these institutions, and the right has always

01:36:46.920 ignored it.

01:36:47.380 So, it's like, you look at the first Marvel movies, and you have Iron Man, The Hulk.

01:36:54.200 The Hulk was kind of like, nobody really liked it.

01:36:56.160 Captain America, Thor.

01:36:57.080 It's all white dudes.

01:36:58.400 Yeah, I don't care if they said they wanted to make a Falcon movie and have a black superhero.

01:37:01.220 That doesn't mean anything.

01:37:02.460 So, the problem is, instead of saying, okay, the next movie we want to do should probably

01:37:07.420 focus on a character who's not another white guy.

01:37:09.640 We've done four of those, right?

01:37:10.800 We want to tackle other markets.

01:37:12.200 Instead, they publicly announce, oh, it was racist to do all of this, and now we're going

01:37:16.980 to have a woman come in.

01:37:18.000 Like, they make it their identity.

01:37:19.880 Instead of just making good movies with good characters, they have to make sure the message

01:37:23.060 is the identity of the project.

01:37:25.200 And it's, I don't know if it's because the financiers behind Hollywood want this ideology

01:37:30.360 to be everywhere, but they all march in lockstep.

01:37:32.980 You look at Mark Ruffalo's Twitter account, you know, Chris Evans, they could not be more

01:37:37.300 woke.

01:37:37.540 Yeah, no, it's insane you say that, because I've noticed that a lot of Hollywood actors

01:37:42.720 have been endorsing, like, left ideology.

01:37:45.200 They publicly endorse.

01:37:46.160 Like, we were watching CNN panel the other day, and they had this black guy on there,

01:37:49.520 and out of everybody there, he was literally the least qualified.

01:37:52.640 He's an actor.

01:37:53.280 I was like, what makes, like, I've always wondered this.

01:37:56.340 This is something I've started to wonder now.

01:37:57.880 What is up with Hollywood people thinking that their opinion or their endorsement, like,

01:38:02.660 holds any validity, like, because you can play pretend really good on TV, your opinion

01:38:07.200 means something?

01:38:08.340 That's brutal to me.

01:38:09.560 Like, you guys are more, bigger experts on any of this stuff than these guys in Hollywood,

01:38:14.000 and you see, like, Oprah interviewing Kamala and stuff like this, and I get it.

01:38:18.980 Like, she's a cultural icon, but there are a lot of people who have zero experience in

01:38:23.780 politics, like the Call Her Daddy podcast.

01:38:26.120 She has no idea what she's talking about.

01:38:27.540 I'm not trying to be mean to her.

01:38:28.460 Like, she's got a great podcast if you're dealing with, like, sex and, you know, gay women

01:38:31.920 who want to hook up with each other.

01:38:33.300 I'm not trying to be mean.

01:38:34.100 That's, like, literally, she talks about that stuff.

01:38:35.340 She talks about crazy stuff.

01:38:36.480 I've seen clips.

01:38:37.360 It's ridiculous.

01:38:38.180 Is that the one where JoJo was on?

01:38:39.880 Yeah.

01:38:40.240 No.

01:38:40.820 I think that was JoJo Haktua.

01:38:42.960 Yeah.

01:38:45.200 That clip was crazy, man.

01:38:47.380 No, that was crazy.

01:38:48.480 I wonder why the left also be trying to push communism on everybody.

01:38:53.360 That's so weird lately.

01:38:54.940 Like, a lot of the, like, again, like, I feel like a lot of that stuff is, like, they're

01:38:58.580 trying to push it, like, normalize it almost.

01:39:01.360 Like, oh, equality for everyone.

01:39:03.940 Well, like, I don't believe in that.

01:39:05.820 No disrespect.

01:39:06.560 Like, obviously, I want people to be successful, but I don't think, yeah, you got to work for

01:39:10.960 it.

01:39:11.060 You don't work, you don't eat.

01:39:11.880 That's literally life.

01:39:12.960 That's literally what everybody learns.

01:39:14.660 Like, if you don't work, you don't eat.

01:39:16.140 Now they're trying to make it where, well, you working, but he ain't eating, so you got

01:39:20.000 to cut off your plate and make sure he can eat, too.

01:39:22.200 And I just don't agree with that.

01:39:23.440 I mean, this is the universal health care argument.

01:39:25.540 It's like, there are a lot of people, we have morbidly obese homeless people.

01:39:29.940 Like, we got problems here.

01:39:31.040 We've solved the hunger problem.

01:39:33.680 And I don't know if it's fair to say we solved it because nutrition is an issue, but, you

01:39:37.600 know, when you have morbidly obese homeless people, like, your problem has become a weird

01:39:40.860 problem.

01:39:41.740 And then they say, we should give everybody universal health care, which means your labor

01:39:45.500 and taxes should be taken automatically so you can pay the health care bills of everybody.

01:39:49.220 But you guys, you guys are athletes.

01:39:51.220 Eat right.

01:39:51.700 You train hard every day.

01:39:52.460 Why are you paying the medical bills for somebody who wants to lay on a couch all day and just

01:39:55.160 eat pizza and nachos and not exercise?

01:39:57.380 Yeah.

01:39:57.740 Yeah.

01:39:58.060 Yeah.

01:39:58.700 If you don't, if you don't work, you don't eat.

01:40:00.160 And if you overeat and you're out of shape, that's your, like, hey, look, man, I don't care

01:40:03.920 if you're fat.

01:40:04.580 You want to be big and fat and eat pizza five times a day and do whatever you want.

01:40:08.460 Fine.

01:40:08.600 But I'm not paying your medical bills.

01:40:09.920 Yeah.

01:40:10.560 That's actually mind blowing to think about.

01:40:12.820 That's real.

01:40:13.680 Yeah.

01:40:13.980 See, in a sense, I do understand, like, the health care for everybody.

01:40:18.680 But on the other hand, this is America and nothing's free.

01:40:21.820 Yeah.

01:40:22.020 So, like, somebody's paying for it.

01:40:24.020 And I don't know.

01:40:26.180 I feel like there's money.

01:40:29.020 Like, we have enough money in America for something like that to happen.

01:40:32.480 But all the money is not spent on that.

01:40:35.040 Like, we spend billions of dollars, hundreds of billions, trillions of dollars on.

01:40:39.360 Ukraine?

01:40:40.680 No, facts.

01:40:41.520 Rather than America.

01:40:42.800 And to me, I think that's the thing that makes me feel more comfortable on the right

01:40:47.220 because America first.

01:40:49.680 Like, literally, this is what it is.

01:40:50.840 Like, we literally live here, pay here.

01:40:52.720 This is our home.

01:40:54.180 Why are we paying for someone else's home that we'll probably never go to?

01:40:57.160 That's crazy, too.

01:40:58.120 I mean, when did you guys, like, start seeing this?

01:41:01.480 You start getting into politics, right?

01:41:02.980 Did you start to ask questions about, like, hey, wait a minute.

01:41:05.060 They just gave a billion dollars to, like, Ukraine and Taiwan and Israel and we got a

01:41:09.700 border crisis?

01:41:10.540 Definitely.

01:41:10.760 Yeah.

01:41:11.020 It's gradual.

01:41:12.140 It was definitely gradual.

01:41:13.200 Like, I think the more and more of the stuff we started ingesting, at first I would say

01:41:18.640 we were kind of nervous to be like, we're out, we're conservatives, we're, like, openly,

01:41:24.180 like, I mean, we were finding our identity in it a little bit, you know?

01:41:27.580 And when you're finding your identity in something, you start to realize, like, there's going

01:41:31.440 to be a lot of pushback and scrutiny on the outside of it.

01:41:33.820 But the more and more we started to learn and get comfortable and, like, we could watch

01:41:39.240 the source without watching, like, Officer Tatum and we could have our own discussions.

01:41:44.000 I think once we got to that point, like, where we weren't watching Benny Johnson and

01:41:48.020 taking his word for it, we were watching it on our own and taking our word for it.

01:41:51.820 I think once we got to that point, we were like, look, man, this is what it is.

01:41:54.480 Like, I'll put the MAGA hat on.

01:41:55.940 You know what's crazy that you said that about, you know, the Medicare or whatever Kamala

01:42:00.820 calls it, but she says that so much, and it's just like, now I think that's a woke stance

01:42:05.760 now that you just said that.

01:42:06.900 Like, I got tired of her saying that so much, but now that you just said that, yeah, like,

01:42:11.000 people should just work hard.

01:42:11.520 I don't even know what she is offering.

01:42:13.300 Well, yeah, I mean, you got to do work, you know?

01:42:15.140 We finally solved Medicare.

01:42:17.940 Now, what's crazy to me is that we funding all these wars and then allow all the people

01:42:22.900 that's, like, impacted by the wars to come through our border, and then on top of that,

01:42:28.220 they're trying to tell us to get rid of our guns.

01:42:30.120 Like, that's crazy to me.

01:42:31.640 That's the most crazy.

01:42:32.580 It's like, you know, no, what's the craziest thing to be is illegal immigrants in New York

01:42:37.160 and Chicago, free housing, free health care, food card, what was it?

01:42:41.320 What was it, the refundable card or whatever, the card that, basically the magic card that

01:42:48.020 never runs out of money, all that stuff they're getting, and $700 to Hurricane Survivor.

01:42:52.240 This is the craziest thing to me, because, like, what's happened now is in places like

01:42:57.460 Chicago, you've got black people being like, you keep telling us there's no money for reparations,

01:43:01.980 and then you gave all this money to people who don't even live here to buy houses, to get

01:43:06.300 apartments, to pay their bills.

01:43:08.960 Dio, in Chicago, the black community had activists literally saying, we are being replaced.

01:43:13.860 Oh, for sure.

01:43:14.820 That's crazy.

01:43:15.880 They were dumping them in black neighborhoods.

01:43:17.800 Yeah.

01:43:17.920 Like, I remember I saw, this was something that should have been the final straw for any

01:43:21.880 rational-thinking person.

01:43:22.880 There was a school that closed down in, like, Massachusetts or somewhere due to lack of

01:43:27.800 funding.

01:43:28.140 Yeah.

01:43:28.780 I see that.

01:43:29.000 They closed the school down.

01:43:30.560 Kids couldn't go to school.

01:43:31.300 There was predominantly black school.

01:43:32.680 Legal immigrants come in.

01:43:33.620 And they refurbished the whole school.

01:43:37.360 Yeah, refurbished the whole school.

01:43:38.600 They fixed it up, turned it into a housing floor on the top unit, and on the bottom floor

01:43:42.920 of the kids, for illegals, go to school.

01:43:44.780 Wow.

01:43:45.300 And they did all that after closing the school due to lack of funding.

01:43:48.480 That's insane.

01:43:49.220 I was talking to this more liberal guy, black dude, on this show a couple months ago, and

01:43:54.100 I said, here's my compromise.

01:43:55.220 Let's seize all the Bureau of Land Management property all on the West Coast and the Rockies,

01:44:01.080 give reparations.

01:44:01.760 And I'd rather see the federal government lose access to this land and American citizens

01:44:06.400 have access to it in whatever form that takes.

01:44:08.880 But additionally, it's like, I would rather see every dime spent on Ukraine paid in reparations.

01:44:14.780 And there's a lot of people who are like, I don't like reparations.

01:44:17.080 I don't want reparations because it's racist.

01:44:19.200 It's bad policy.

01:44:19.740 No, no, I agree.

01:44:20.380 I agree.

01:44:20.720 I think it creates animosity if you start giving out money based on race.

01:44:23.440 I'm just saying, priority-wise, why are we giving money to a foreign country before

01:44:27.520 we're giving it to our own people for literally any reason?

01:44:29.620 Yeah, that's exactly right.

01:44:31.000 America first.

01:44:31.800 I'm against reparations, but I agree with that.

01:44:33.740 I'm saying it's like a tier thing.

01:44:35.920 The issue I take with reparations is that, you know, maybe like back in the day, if they

01:44:41.100 promised 40 acres and a mule, you should have done it.

01:44:43.100 But now it's like, dude, there's going to be a white dude who is like, great, great,

01:44:47.860 great grandmother's black, but he's white as they come.

01:44:50.160 And he's going to get reparations?

01:44:51.180 Like, I don't think that works for anybody.

01:44:52.740 Yeah.

01:44:53.060 It's just not feasible at all.

01:44:54.600 No, it just doesn't make sense logically.

01:44:56.380 I mean, we're so far removed from slavery in America, and it's become so diverse with

01:45:01.620 who lives in America.

01:45:02.760 Like Will Smith is going to get reparations?

01:45:04.620 Yeah.

01:45:05.260 We saw Sonny Holston was on the view, talking about she needs reparations.

01:45:08.720 Exactly.

01:45:09.100 Like, you're a millionaire.

01:45:09.780 We're talking about she's a Bronx Borrequo.

01:45:11.420 It's no country you can go to and become a millionaire like America.

01:45:15.680 Yeah.

01:45:15.960 As a black person.

01:45:16.880 You don't, that means we don't deserve reparations, period.

01:45:19.580 But for real, like, the greatest opportunity for people of any racial background to become

01:45:24.220 rich is America.

01:45:25.260 Because you look at the competition, which is going to be, like, sure, there's European

01:45:30.340 countries, you have a better shot, but it's not as good.

01:45:32.820 China is, I think China has more millionaires than the United States, but you're not going

01:45:36.000 to be a millionaire there unless you're Chinese.

01:45:37.440 Yeah.

01:45:37.860 They're like very ethno-nationalist and communist.

01:45:41.880 Yeah.

01:45:42.140 If you come from Africa and you're in poverty, your chance is what?

01:45:44.940 Zero.

01:45:45.640 No, yeah.

01:45:45.920 My grandma said in Ghana, if you are born poor, you will die poor.

01:45:48.540 So our reparations, to me, is being in America, period.

01:45:53.520 Yeah, no.

01:45:54.160 I really feel like this is a promised land.

01:45:55.980 Like, this is, like, when I look around, first of all, in my life, I've lived in four

01:46:01.380 different states in my adult life.

01:46:03.400 I mean, I was raised in Oklahoma, didn't experience any direct racism that impacted my life.

01:46:09.140 I went to school in rural, small-town Kansas for four years, didn't any racism there, went

01:46:15.820 to South Louisiana.

01:46:16.720 I remember my advisor, when she was writing my letter of rec to get into Louisiana, she

01:46:21.620 looked me dead in the face, said, it's going to be hard in the South because you're black.

01:46:25.940 She said that to me.

01:46:26.780 She was meant it, like, from good intentions, but she said that dead to my face.

01:46:30.200 And I was like, okay.

01:46:33.000 And I went to Louisiana, and it was a great experience.

01:46:35.320 Like, nobody treated me bad.

01:46:36.960 Everyone was super friendly.

01:46:38.060 I'm well-spoken.

01:46:39.360 I mean, I'm respectful.

01:46:40.180 Yes, sir.

01:46:40.480 No, sir.

01:46:41.220 And just being that in the South, oh, it took me a long way.

01:46:45.480 Like, and I don't know.

01:46:47.340 That did a lot for me.

01:46:48.820 I mean, so I don't believe in the racism thing.

01:46:52.320 Do you guys know about the talk?

01:46:54.180 What's the talk?

01:46:55.020 So there was this campaign that went viral several years ago, like liberals were posting,

01:46:58.600 where it showed, like, a black mom walking, sitting down her son, or, like, a black dad

01:47:03.260 coming and talking to their kid.

01:47:04.420 And they were like, the talk is when the parent finally tells their kid that the police will

01:47:08.800 kill you.

01:47:09.520 Oh, wow.

01:47:10.060 That if you get pulled over, you have to do these things.

01:47:13.940 And the idea was that among these, like, uppity liberal white people.

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01:48:42.640 Well, they've never experienced the talk.

01:48:47.360 And it's like black people in America have to have the talk because the police may kill

01:48:51.700 or harm their children.

01:48:53.300 And it was wild because like every poor person in this country, regardless of race, was like,

01:48:57.380 what do you mean?

01:48:57.700 We always tell our kids how to handle cops.

01:48:59.760 Yeah.

01:49:00.200 Like when I was little, my dad told me, he's like, when you get pulled over, you turn the

01:49:03.460 don't light on, turn the car off, keys, wallet on top of the dash with your hands on the

01:49:07.520 wheel.

01:49:07.900 When they approach, the window's already down.

01:49:09.520 And you say, I'm going to grab my wallet.

01:49:10.600 And you hand it to them.

01:49:11.180 And you keep your hands visible.

01:49:12.380 Yeah.

01:49:12.740 They said that was a race thing.

01:49:14.560 My dad had that same talk with me that you just said, right?

01:49:17.360 Yeah, my mom.

01:49:17.860 It's not a race thing at all.

01:49:18.400 My dad told me, just comply.

01:49:20.580 Yes, sir.

01:49:20.960 No, sir.

01:49:21.500 Be respectful.

01:49:22.580 Don't argue.

01:49:23.780 Just do what they want.

01:49:24.660 That's literally what it is.

01:49:25.600 Matter of fact.

01:49:26.060 It's a point that all people teach their kids that.

01:49:28.360 It's not a race thing.

01:49:29.300 But they made the talk a race thing.

01:49:31.460 Yeah, that's the problem.

01:49:32.160 Matter of fact, that just happened to me in Dallas the other day.

01:49:35.560 You want to know what I think is ridiculous?

01:49:38.780 The Trump.

01:49:39.260 Look at this.

01:49:39.860 On Wikipedia.

01:49:40.780 Wikipedia.

01:49:41.280 The talk.

01:49:42.140 Wow.

01:49:43.160 Look at this.

01:49:43.880 It's a, the talk is a colloquial expression for our conversation.

01:49:46.620 Black parents in the United States feel compelled to have their children and teenagers about

01:49:49.720 the dangers they face due to racism, unjust treatment from authority figures.

01:49:53.200 Law enforcement.

01:49:53.880 Look, like, I'm, okay.

01:49:54.740 So maybe the talk that I had is not the same thing.

01:49:57.740 Maybe black parents are literally talking a lot more, but the way it was depicted and

01:50:02.160 explained, I was like, I feel like everybody I knew on the South Side of Chicago had this

01:50:06.920 conversation with their kids.

01:50:08.180 Like their, or my friends had their parents talk to them about it.

01:50:10.480 Yeah.

01:50:11.020 Yeah.

01:50:11.180 My parents didn't bring race into it at all.

01:50:13.020 Yeah.

01:50:13.420 Same things you just said.

01:50:14.580 Yeah.

01:50:14.880 I had that exact words.

01:50:16.780 Yeah.

01:50:17.120 It's like how to, how to dress, how to walk and act and be mindful of how others could

01:50:21.080 perceive them.

01:50:21.640 I feel like every parent tells their kid that they made it a race in life as well.

01:50:28.080 There's a story that I like to tell about this where at Occupy Wall Street, there's

01:50:33.520 a group of people hanging out and this, this black dude that I knew was like, I'm going

01:50:37.760 to go run across the street to Burger King.

01:50:39.360 And this white dude goes, Hey, can you grab me a double cheeseburger when you're over there?

01:50:42.480 And he goes, the what?

01:50:44.820 And it like, you know, I'm not going to swear, but he's like the F. And then he walks

01:50:47.700 off.

01:50:48.020 And then when he comes back from the bathroom, I was talking to him.

01:50:52.180 He's like, you see what, what dude tried doing?

01:50:54.200 And I was like, no, what are you doing?

01:50:55.360 He's like, he asked me to get him his cheeseburger.

01:50:56.720 Like I'm his boy.

01:50:57.860 And I was like, what?

01:50:59.740 I was like, aren't you guys friends?

01:51:00.920 And he's like, yeah, I thought we were, but he thinks I'm his boy.

01:51:03.560 I'm going to get him a cheeseburger.

01:51:04.340 And I was like, I kind of just thought he was asking you to get him a cheeseburger,

01:51:07.820 dude.

01:51:07.900 He was offended by it.

01:51:16.420 He took it as like a white dude asking me to get him his food is not a thing you're allowed

01:51:19.420 to do.

01:51:20.200 And I don't blame him for feeling that way.

01:51:22.240 I think when you grow up being told by all these people that this is racism.

01:51:26.740 And I was like, when I grew up, somebody would ask me to get him a cheeseburger.

01:51:30.400 I didn't think twice.

01:51:30.900 I'd be like, okay.

01:51:31.860 I'm like, you got a dollar?

01:51:32.700 Because you got to give me the money.

01:51:33.580 A lot of times it doesn't even have to come from your parents.

01:51:35.860 Like it could just be indoctrinated at the school, man.

01:51:38.200 That's really the problem.

01:51:39.260 There's a lot of forms of indoctrination.

01:51:40.720 Social media could be one for sure, especially for like young impressionable children.

01:51:45.320 Yo, look at this.

01:51:46.860 The talk has been described as an example of preparation for bias.

01:51:50.680 It includes pulling your vehicle over right away, keeping your hands visible on the steering

01:51:54.660 wheel, not making sudden moves, not reaching for items, being as polite as possible.

01:51:58.140 Yes, sir, officer.

01:51:58.760 Not arguing even if you're right.

01:52:00.000 But the perception of a need for these behaviors is described as racialized legal cynicism.

01:52:04.760 Bro, I don't care what your race is.

01:52:06.220 If you don't pull over for a cop, you're going to jail.

01:52:08.580 You're done.

01:52:09.400 What, dude?

01:52:09.960 That's actually stupid as hell.

01:52:11.820 That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

01:52:12.880 You know, they're going to say, you got white privilege, you don't have to get pulled over.

01:52:17.880 Do these like white Vox.com and PBS liberals not pull their car over when the cops have their

01:52:24.500 sirens on or behind them and they just keep going?

01:52:26.620 Oh, I'm white.

01:52:27.340 I'll keep going.

01:52:27.900 All right, try that, buddy.

01:52:28.500 They're going to pull you out of that car.

01:52:31.600 They're going to beat the crap out of you.

01:52:32.620 You want to know what's crazy?

01:52:33.880 I've seen people saying that Trump's immunity is so like police can get away with killing

01:52:39.060 black people.

01:52:40.080 And like they're saying like you're voting for like you to get killed by police if you

01:52:44.640 vote for Trump.

01:52:45.260 That's actually one of the biggest black talking points right now.

01:52:48.080 That's ridiculous.

01:52:48.960 Every time I talk to somebody black, they say that right there.

01:52:51.100 I don't understand why people don't understand what like the immunity is.

01:52:54.620 Like you still have to do your job correctly.

01:52:58.340 Like you're not just going to let the cops go do bad stuff and get away with it.

01:53:00.860 On a mass murder.

01:53:02.180 That's ridiculous.

01:53:03.340 He's basically just saying, hey, if something happens and you know.

01:53:06.780 It was on accident.

01:53:07.460 It was on accident and these factors played out and he seemed like he needs to be out of

01:53:11.720 jail.

01:53:12.300 He's going to be out of jail.

01:53:13.120 Like I think like an example of that would be that cop and that woman that got stabbed

01:53:17.540 in the face with the knife.

01:53:18.720 I think they're upset that he brought it up though.

01:53:20.600 I think that's probably about that.

01:53:21.600 Well, I'm just not understanding why like they think it's crazy.

01:53:24.340 Like we're losing police officers like in multiple cities.

01:53:27.300 Like number of cops is down.

01:53:28.900 You need a way for, because they don't feel safe.

01:53:30.800 They feel like if they get in trouble, they'll get persecuted.

01:53:33.400 They'll go to jail.

01:53:34.200 Like, Chauvin, maybe it was justified he went to jail.

01:53:37.640 I'm not here to talk about that.

01:53:38.680 But anyways, yeah, no, we're losing cops because they don't feel safe.

01:53:43.640 So we need more cops.

01:53:44.920 We need law and order to keep us safe.

01:53:46.960 Oh yeah, it's the Ferguson effect.

01:53:48.440 Yeah.

01:53:48.700 So, I mean, yeah.

01:53:49.440 So like that's just the law so that when the police are doing their job, they can feel

01:53:54.700 protected if shit go left.

01:53:57.320 I don't think these people live in reality.

01:53:59.080 I don't understand why everybody act like that.

01:53:59.820 It's so crazy.

01:54:00.320 If something were to happen.

01:54:01.440 I'm allowed to do that.

01:54:02.700 If something were to happen right here, right now, we would be asking how fast can the

01:54:06.560 police get here?

01:54:07.000 Exactly.

01:54:07.280 So if we defund the police, what are we supposed to do?

01:54:10.580 Oh, we're going to take the matter into our own hands.

01:54:12.920 No.

01:54:13.200 I mean, we call here.

01:54:14.400 Here's the issue about living in the country, especially in West Virginia.

01:54:18.240 Well, the first thing happens is we notify the police and then it is expected of you

01:54:23.220 to take care of it to the best of your abilities.

01:54:26.120 That's that's when you live out in the country in a constitutional carry state.

01:54:28.580 And we saw this in Florida when I can't remember, it was like a few years ago, the it was like

01:54:33.640 a storm or whatever.

01:54:34.260 The sheriff said, if looters come knocking, Florida residents shoot.

01:54:38.880 Oh, yeah.

01:54:39.260 And Florida has stand your ground.

01:54:41.160 And that's crazy because that's a denser urban environments.

01:54:43.220 But even they're saying like, so if something were to happen here, we're in West Virginia.

01:54:47.780 We are we are armed quite a bit.

01:54:50.480 And so if something happens, we call the police, let them know.

01:54:53.420 And then don't take yourself.

01:54:55.020 Don't don't don't don't come here.

01:54:57.620 We because we you know, the fight you win is the fight you never have.

01:55:00.960 But in a state like West Virginia, the police are going to be like, you did what you had

01:55:03.720 to do.

01:55:04.380 It's a sad story.

01:55:05.240 We don't want it to happen.

01:55:06.020 But this is the law in the state.

01:55:07.740 Yeah.

01:55:08.120 So I much prefer it.

01:55:09.780 Yeah.

01:55:10.200 Growing up in Chicago, the bullets start flying.

01:55:12.560 They go, did you consider hiding?

01:55:14.100 And it's like, man, that's so out when I lived in New Jersey.

01:55:17.940 The law, the way the law works in New Jersey, at least this is what they told me, the cops

01:55:22.300 told me this and a lawyer told me this.

01:55:24.100 If someone breaks in your house.

01:55:26.360 You have to flee.

01:55:27.980 If you shoot and kill them, you will be arrested and charged with murder.

01:55:31.060 I'm going there.

01:55:31.960 I'm going.

01:55:32.460 You can then they say, no, no, hold on.

01:55:34.940 It's OK, because when you're at when you're before the judge and he asks you, why did you

01:55:39.000 kill this man?

01:55:39.900 You can say it was self-defense and it says, congratulations, you've admitted to killing

01:55:43.840 somebody.

01:55:44.580 Now we're going to have a trial to determine whether or not you didn't have to do that.

01:55:48.400 And so I was talking to the cops, again, a lawyer about this.

01:55:51.220 And I said, what is the circumstance where I'm allowed to defend myself in my home in

01:55:54.980 New Jersey?

01:55:55.280 It's really hard to get a gun.

01:55:56.780 That's the hardest thing.

01:55:57.260 It took me like three months.

01:55:58.460 And if you know what you're doing, you go to a gun shop, you could probably get done

01:56:00.960 in a month.

01:56:01.780 And they were like, well, the first thing you have to do is flee your home.

01:56:05.000 If someone breaks in your house and you're armed and you have the opportunity to flee,

01:56:09.580 you cannot shoot the person.

01:56:11.940 And I was like, so wait, wait, if like a guy comes to my house, he's got a shotgun and he

01:56:14.860 says, where's Tim Pool?

01:56:15.720 Well, I'm coming to get him and I'm going to end him or whatever.

01:56:18.680 I can't defend myself.

01:56:19.800 I have to run.

01:56:20.280 He's like, yes.

01:56:20.820 Even if he has a gun?

01:56:21.980 Yeah.

01:56:22.360 And he's got kids in the house.

01:56:24.440 So then they were like, right.

01:56:26.600 So what you're basically, so if you've got people to defend, you can try and make that

01:56:31.200 argument.

01:56:31.560 He said, the cops were like, we will arrest you.

01:56:33.740 You will be charged.

01:56:35.240 You have made an admission to the murder.

01:56:36.900 And then you can have a jury decide whether or not you were justified.

01:56:40.640 That's insane.

01:56:41.940 And so he said, if you go to a court and you are in front of a jury in New Jersey and you

01:56:49.080 say, the man broke into my house, threatening to kill me and harm my family.

01:56:52.240 So I shot him.

01:56:53.300 The prosecutor is going to say, why didn't you run away?

01:56:56.800 And you say, where do I run to?

01:56:59.320 And then the response was, what you are telling the jury is, you would rather kill a man than

01:57:04.420 stand outside barefoot.

01:57:06.180 Yes.

01:57:06.640 And the jury is going to convict you.

01:57:07.860 They're going to be like, wow.

01:57:09.260 That sounds unreal.

01:57:10.560 Yeah.

01:57:10.880 New Jersey's super liberal.

01:57:12.360 Are you for real?

01:57:13.400 So like.

01:57:13.920 Sounds like a crappy place to live.

01:57:14.800 So somebody just steal your car, steal everything.

01:57:17.240 It's just, hey, they just stole it.

01:57:19.240 Yeah, man.

01:57:19.700 I mean, look, in states like that, it is incumbent upon the victim to avoid in all circumstances

01:57:29.980 anything that escalates harm.

01:57:32.040 And to assume you're going to be safe.

01:57:34.420 This is a crazy thing.

01:57:35.800 In West Virginia, there's reasonable issues, right?

01:57:38.840 If a guy is walking on, let's say you got a big property and it's 50 acres and a guy

01:57:42.280 is walking on it, you can't just shoot him.

01:57:43.720 That's crazy.

01:57:44.640 If the guy is waving a weapon around, you can defend yourself because a guy is trespassing

01:57:49.080 on my property with a weapon.

01:57:50.600 I have a reasonable fear of harm.

01:57:52.280 It's a sad tragedy, especially if it was an accident or whatever happened, but it's not

01:57:56.240 you, the victim's fault.

01:57:57.860 If you have to make a difficult decision in places like New Jersey and Maryland, nah, it's

01:58:02.020 the other way around.

01:58:02.560 You as the victim have to be aware and have to run away and hide.

01:58:06.840 And you can't live that way.

01:58:08.440 So that's why the liberals were mad at Trump probably for that thing.

01:58:11.020 Remember we saw that video in California, the guy, we watched the Ozo reaction we did

01:58:15.620 and a guy had his, you show, I think we see him walk into the house with his family.

01:58:20.580 It was his wife and a young daughter, I think.

01:58:23.120 Oh yeah, in LA.

01:58:23.880 As soon as they get in the house, two dudes come behind him and try to run up on him.

01:58:27.760 And he shoots at him, both of them.

01:58:29.360 They took his gun.

01:58:30.560 They took his gun.

01:58:31.400 I was like, what?

01:58:32.700 That is so...

01:58:33.500 At least he didn't get charged because it was like they had everything on camera.

01:58:36.540 And it was like, clearly.

01:58:38.060 But I mean, if there was no camera in California and they took the gun, what could have...

01:58:42.880 It's not common sense, bro.

01:58:44.020 It's not at all.

01:58:44.960 Let's just let my family die.

01:58:46.280 You're allowed to have a gun at your home in California and this man used the gun in his

01:58:51.200 home to defend himself against armed robbers and they took his concealed carry away.

01:58:55.480 Not common sense.

01:58:57.020 That's insane to me.

01:58:58.200 So imagine that, taking my gun, opening the border, and just defunding the police all at

01:59:03.340 the same time.

01:59:04.340 At the same time.

01:59:05.440 Listen, this is what we should do.

01:59:06.260 This is about to do it.

01:59:06.420 At the cartel.

01:59:07.020 All right, y'all want to do that.

01:59:08.020 We want to get these far left radical laws.

01:59:09.920 Let's get some land for y'all.

01:59:10.740 Y'all go over there.

01:59:11.280 Y'all do that.

01:59:11.760 Let's see how good that goes.

01:59:13.020 I'll come back if it don't go good.

01:59:14.580 I agree.

01:59:14.960 I was saying we should take like 50 square miles in Utah or something and we'll tell

01:59:19.380 all the leftists, we are going to fund exactly what you want.

01:59:23.440 To the T.

01:59:24.280 Out of the side.

01:59:25.200 A billion dollars in the taxpayer pocket so that you can build this and then we get to

01:59:28.460 film it and put it on TV.

01:59:30.040 They're going to turn into zombies.

01:59:31.420 They're going to say, okay, season one.

01:59:32.800 Didn't George Carlin say that?

01:59:34.740 George Carlin.

01:59:35.280 He did.

01:59:35.760 We watched that.

01:59:36.260 That was a reaction.

01:59:38.300 They'd be like, okay, I love this.

01:59:39.860 When they were doing the pro-Palestine protest at the universities.

01:59:43.480 Oh, man.

01:59:43.920 That was ridiculous.

01:59:44.560 The knee pads and lotions.

01:59:47.780 But like, so we pulled the video and I'm like, okay, so this is a protest against Israel,

01:59:51.720 right?

01:59:51.940 Take a look at this picture.

01:59:52.760 And they have the people's library and they have like the people's kitchen.

01:59:56.440 And I'm like, now explain to me what communism has to do with Israel.

02:00:01.780 It doesn't.

02:00:02.280 It's just communists are trying to use whatever cause they have to set up little communes.

02:00:06.160 Because I'm just imagining if we created this like 50 square mile jurisdiction and funded

02:00:09.420 it, there's going to be like 50 libraries and no farms.

02:00:13.320 Yeah.

02:00:13.800 For real.

02:00:14.720 Nobody wants to do work.

02:00:16.860 Yeah.

02:00:17.200 There was a funny meme where some leftist was like, when we achieve communism, what are

02:00:21.340 you going to do?

02:00:22.200 And then someone says, I think I'll host poetry and art classes at my farm.

02:00:26.740 It's really exciting.

02:00:27.620 And then someone responded with your farm.

02:00:29.680 Not yours.

02:00:30.500 Not yours.

02:00:31.120 That's not happening.

02:00:31.720 That's ours.

02:00:32.340 You're going to be breaking rocks.

02:00:33.560 Yeah.

02:00:34.400 Yeah.

02:00:34.560 Nobody wants to live that way, dude.

02:00:36.600 Well, that's crazy because people are starting to wake up.

02:00:38.540 No, they are.

02:00:39.100 Yeah.

02:00:39.320 They are.

02:00:39.960 I mean, especially a lot of black people.

02:00:40.960 Because I mean, black people do like, they really don't like that type of stuff.

02:00:45.300 Fundamentally.

02:00:45.920 Yeah.

02:00:46.280 But they just.

02:00:47.040 Hard to think.

02:00:47.540 Yeah.

02:00:47.820 They're just so victim mentality.

02:00:50.040 So the left gets them and Democrats gets them basically from that.

02:00:53.560 So if they start waking up, oh, I think the Democrats will be counseled for a hundred

02:00:58.440 plus years.

02:00:59.360 Do you guys think Trump is going to get a big boost from black voters this time around?

02:01:02.640 I do.

02:01:03.120 I really do believe so.

02:01:05.180 I really think he's winning like this, like in a landslide right now because everything

02:01:09.720 I'm seeing coming from Kamala's corner is saying desperation.

02:01:13.700 Like the media blitz, which has been completely backfiring on her.

02:01:18.340 Yeah.

02:01:18.540 Like she's went on podcasts.

02:01:20.760 It seems scripted.

02:01:21.780 She's not sitting down with anybody.

02:01:23.500 She sat down with Brett.

02:01:24.600 He grilled her.

02:01:25.720 She went on The View.

02:01:26.520 I wouldn't do anything different than Joe Biden.

02:01:28.400 That was bad.

02:01:29.240 I was in the chat.

02:01:30.180 They call her daddy was bad.

02:01:31.980 This is crazy that she goes on Breakfast Club.

02:01:36.280 She goes on Fox and all of these Democrats are like, wow, she's so good.

02:01:41.300 How did she do so well?

02:01:42.480 And we're sitting here, it doesn't even matter if it's a Trump supporter.

02:01:45.600 We're like, dude, look at the, look at the poly market.

02:01:47.980 Trump's up 20 points.

02:01:49.440 Like regular people saw that and went, whoa, Kamala Harris is going to lose.

02:01:53.260 But these people live in this crazy world where they're like, no, it was the greatest

02:01:56.080 interview I've ever done.

02:01:57.420 It's absurd.

02:01:58.380 It's absurd.

02:01:59.180 Drugs, man.

02:02:01.380 Something I think is crazy is that like on the news, they, they push their opinions as

02:02:05.420 facts.

02:02:05.840 Like this is supposed to be where people come to get informed.

02:02:08.220 And we've got the anchors telling you their opinion and they're telling you like it's the

02:02:11.580 truth.

02:02:12.420 I think that's crazy.

02:02:13.540 No, that's insane.

02:02:14.400 I think that's, I, I, I, I don't know though.

02:02:16.360 Do you think, do you think they, you think they're going to cheat?

02:02:18.660 I, I keep saying that.

02:02:20.100 I feel like they got to hell married.

02:02:21.360 It's definitely a possibility.

02:02:22.780 Did you just.

02:02:23.120 I think that they can't again, not in the same way, unless they come up with a new method.

02:02:26.760 Cause everybody's aware of it.

02:02:28.180 I think.

02:02:28.900 Hey.

02:02:29.620 COVID was the best time to do it.

02:02:30.940 So I don't think it's going to happen.

02:02:31.700 Hey.

02:02:31.920 I ain't gonna lie.

02:02:33.400 When we sit here and we kind of like figure out what the plans were of the Democratic Party.

02:02:37.620 Oftentimes, and when we say this, we're not talking about like all Democrats, obviously.

02:02:40.420 It's like, you know, the far radical ones.

02:02:41.900 They come up with some smart ass ideas to like get what they want.

02:02:46.360 Like the COVID, like a trick of black people with the music and all these things.

02:02:49.660 Like, damn.

02:02:50.600 See, that was a smart plan.

02:02:51.800 The only reason we like this is because of YouTube though.

02:02:56.140 Cause we can sit there, we can get paid to sit there and really dissect this.

02:03:00.540 Yes.

02:03:00.840 My mother, on the other hand, she can't sit there and dissect it.

02:03:03.220 So when I come to her and it blows her mind when I'm saying it.

02:03:05.860 Cause she's starting to realize.

02:03:06.940 People argue with me on the other side anymore, but will you know this and that, but will

02:03:09.960 show me an exit.

02:03:10.760 They'll say this, this, and that happened.

02:03:11.760 Show me.

02:03:12.340 You can't.

02:03:12.840 So why you just, someone just told you that that happened and you can't show it to me.

02:03:15.680 It's crazy.

02:03:16.300 We will not argue.

02:03:16.920 People will not argue.

02:03:18.400 That's the, that's the funny thing about when people call you guys grifters.

02:03:20.900 When the reality is you're on the internet watching this stuff every day.

02:03:24.960 All day.

02:03:25.580 You see it happen in real time.

02:03:26.880 And you're like, this informs my opinion.

02:03:28.500 Yes.

02:03:28.840 These other people don't watch it, have no idea what's going on.

02:03:31.540 Yes.

02:03:31.900 To them, the only explanation is you're grifting for money.

02:03:34.380 And you know, it's crazy, it's crazy because what he said, we, we have time to sit and

02:03:40.120 research this stuff, watch this stuff.

02:03:42.140 We'd spent at least a year and a half now really doing this every single day, literally

02:03:47.400 every day.

02:03:48.360 And like he said, the normal average person who has to go to work and do all this other

02:03:52.860 stuff, they don't have time to do what we do.

02:03:55.660 So they're getting their news and information from TV, from the mainstream media.

02:04:02.160 They play telephone.

02:04:02.920 Yeah.

02:04:03.360 From, from, yeah.

02:04:04.500 And they're being conditioned and told what to think.

02:04:07.520 Like they'll, the news, this is my problem with the mainstream media on all platforms.

02:04:12.340 They'll, they'll bring up like a news topic and then they'll break it down and give you

02:04:17.460 their opinion and tell you that's what you're supposed to think.

02:04:19.460 This is what you're supposed to get from this.

02:04:21.060 And it's like an opinion.

02:04:22.100 I'm like, well, that's, that's what you think from that.

02:04:24.840 This could be interpreted different ways based on how you look at it.

02:04:29.420 And then the problem is, is the moderator to me though.

02:04:31.820 Cause I mean, everybody's really supposed to have their own opinion, but when the moderator

02:04:34.960 gets involved and make it seems like a person's wrong with Abby Phillip on TNN, it's like,

02:04:38.880 well, I mean, Scott, I mean, um, that's not right.

02:04:41.660 I mean, he, that's obviously debunked another person, a regular citizen is going to be like,

02:04:46.600 well, then, then Abby's right.

02:04:48.100 Yeah.

02:04:48.340 That's not right.

02:04:49.280 Yeah.

02:04:49.460 No.

02:04:49.740 You know, what's funny to me is like, I don't, I don't care about a person's race or background

02:04:54.320 when it comes to what their political leaning is.

02:04:57.600 Let me rephrase this.

02:04:59.500 I am not surprised that somebody would come to support Trump or be right wing, regardless

02:05:04.920 of their race.

02:05:05.720 If they're athletes.

02:05:07.380 Yeah.

02:05:07.720 Yeah.

02:05:08.160 Cause we work hard.

02:05:09.440 Exactly.

02:05:09.800 So it's like at a certain point, you're kind of like, how come these people who are eating

02:05:13.140 and lying around and not working want my money?

02:05:15.020 It's like every day I wake up.

02:05:16.900 So, so for me, like I skate, we got the skate park in here.

02:05:19.300 I take it very seriously and it's not because I'm going to win a competition or cause I'm

02:05:22.680 going to get a scholarship.

02:05:23.160 It's because I want to improve and be better, better than myself yesterday.

02:05:27.660 So this morning, like I do this every day at my breakfast is a two egg omelet with goat

02:05:31.800 cheese and avocado and a protein shake.

02:05:34.240 And so like tracking macros and stuff like that.

02:05:36.700 And then, uh, I try to avoid bad foods, but to be honest, you know, Alison was visiting

02:05:41.260 family.

02:05:41.640 So this week, all it was, was a cheese off of pizzas.

02:05:43.980 I don't eat the bread and when cheese around, I eat better.

02:05:47.260 But, uh, every day I'm paying attention and I'm reading and researching and I'm like, how

02:05:53.200 can I be better than I was?

02:05:54.600 If you have that mentality, you're going to start looking at what's going on in the world

02:05:58.180 and you're going to say, yeah, that doesn't make sense.

02:06:00.160 This does.

02:06:00.940 It doesn't matter what your race is.

02:06:01.940 So it's like, when I hear you guys are like athletes at school, like you're in school,

02:06:05.620 you're learning, you're getting your master's, whatever you're, you're, you're running track.

02:06:08.580 I'm like, dude, you're no matter what happens, these people are turning to the right.

02:06:11.820 Yeah.

02:06:12.540 Meritocracy and hard work.

02:06:13.680 Definitely.

02:06:14.140 I agree with that too.

02:06:15.640 And I think, uh, sports has like, that's why I'm so big on sports, especially for young

02:06:20.140 men.

02:06:20.620 Cause it's like, it teaches you structure.

02:06:23.060 It teaches you, okay, I have to be here at this time.

02:06:24.980 If I don't, this will happen.

02:06:26.440 And it gives you a sense of belonging, especially like for black men.

02:06:29.760 Cause that's why I think a lot of, you know, black men join games.

02:06:32.560 Cause it's like, they don't have a sense of belonging.

02:06:34.220 So I'm with him.

02:06:35.280 These are the guys.

02:06:35.880 I'm with the crew that are done.

02:06:37.040 That's what we do.

02:06:37.700 But if you can get that same feeling from football, like, especially, you know, as a

02:06:41.200 man, you have testosterone, you want to, you know, there's times where you got to get

02:06:43.920 aggressive, you know, it's like you, you want to get aggressive.

02:06:46.500 Like it's a natural feeling in all men.

02:06:48.580 So if you have no outlet towards that, and then you also don't have a male role model telling

02:06:53.420 you, Hey, you can't do it in this way.

02:06:54.580 Like they telling you, dude, you can do it in this way, like a sports or boxing or whatever.

02:06:58.160 And so that gets released into the wrong way.

02:07:00.500 Yeah.

02:07:00.980 No, that might be actually great.

02:07:02.180 That was a great, great analogy.

02:07:03.340 Yeah.

02:07:03.940 That's big.

02:07:04.860 If we think about that, that girl that said being on time was white supremacy, somebody

02:07:09.140 athlete would never think like that.

02:07:11.320 Hell no.

02:07:11.840 Cause we know we have to be there to be great on time.

02:07:14.220 You're not going to be in the race.

02:07:15.560 You ain't getting in the game.

02:07:17.080 You're not going home.

02:07:18.060 But it's like, I was an hour late.

02:07:19.680 It's like, well, the race is over.

02:07:20.460 Yeah.

02:07:20.640 You missed it.

02:07:21.140 White supremacy.

02:07:22.620 Yo, Relay team just lost because of you.

02:07:24.340 Y'all didn't race with the black man.

02:07:25.800 And like Brock said, I think sports is like he said, the structure and like life lessons

02:07:31.740 it teaches you.

02:07:32.560 Like if you work for something, you can achieve it.

02:07:34.860 You could take that.

02:07:35.780 Like, let's say you want to get on the field as a football player.

02:07:39.480 You got to work.

02:07:40.040 You got to remember all these plays.

02:07:41.120 You got to do, go the extra mile than the people around you.

02:07:43.960 I mean, that's a life lesson.

02:07:44.760 You can apply that same thing to be successful in anything.

02:07:48.480 You know what's crazy?

02:07:49.280 I just told my parents, like, I think last weekend watching the football game, because

02:07:53.160 my dad always, I mean, he's voting for Trump now.

02:07:55.940 I mean, I got him to vote for Trump now.

02:07:57.340 But like, he always used to say, man, they always let the white boys sit on the sideline

02:08:03.700 as the backup quarterback.

02:08:05.360 They never want to pay the black man to sit down on the sideline as a backup quarterback.

02:08:09.940 So, you know what, Dad?

02:08:10.760 Have you ever thought about the black man's attitude on the sideline?

02:08:14.620 Because black people do, like, in sports, they're passionate, but, you know, and they

02:08:18.600 could be on the sideline.

02:08:19.560 Man, I should be in the game.

02:08:21.260 I should be doing this.

02:08:22.700 I said, but are you thinking about, is the white guy just playing his role and sitting

02:08:27.340 back, knowing the plays, knowing what to do if his time is called up?

02:08:31.100 Because, like, Cam Newton, he's always upset about, man, it's not these men.

02:08:34.160 I mean, quarterback's better than me.

02:08:36.300 But his attitude is different than a lot of people.

02:08:39.420 And then he said, you know what?

02:08:40.980 I never thought about that.

02:08:42.000 And my older brother sat there and said, I never thought about that, bro.

02:08:45.240 I said, I think that's what it is, man.

02:08:47.040 It's not that he's black.

02:08:47.960 They don't want to play the black man to sit on the sideline.

02:08:50.140 It could be possibly because of the attitude.

02:08:51.660 They're going to put up who the best player is is going to get in the game.

02:08:53.860 That's the beauty of sports.

02:08:55.120 The best player will get in.

02:08:56.900 The best backup will be the backup.

02:08:58.240 That's optional.

02:08:58.680 They don't have black backups because there's not a lot of black quarterbacks.

02:09:00.900 There's not a lot of black quarterbacks because black people are fast.

02:09:03.040 They need them out wide.

02:09:05.840 I don't know.

02:09:07.540 I think it's because of the attitude, bro, because I know who I am, bro.

02:09:09.640 You're throwing the ball for it.

02:09:10.580 You better get the cover, too.

02:09:11.720 I feel like if I'm Caleb Williams or somebody and then I'm going to back up

02:09:15.500 for Kirk Cousins, I'm like.

02:09:16.560 If we got Kirk Cousins and we got Tyreek Hill.

02:09:18.540 Tyreek is not going to be the quarterback.

02:09:19.560 He's never going to be the quarterback.

02:09:20.400 I'm not saying a black quarterback, though.

02:09:21.620 Huh?

02:09:21.940 A black quarterback.

02:09:22.500 I'm saying like.

02:09:22.860 He can slay it better than the white boy.

02:09:24.740 He's going to be in there.

02:09:25.460 But you don't think a coach can make that decision off like, okay,

02:09:28.140 well, he does too much on the sideline.

02:09:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:09:30.380 I look at this guy.

02:09:31.080 Yeah.

02:09:31.520 But there could be a white quarterback who does too much, too, though.

02:09:33.860 Yeah.

02:09:34.520 It happens.

02:09:35.360 So, you know, it's funny, though.

02:09:37.300 I don't know enough about football, but I can tell you we don't see these

02:09:40.280 woke people complaining about the domination of black people in the NBA.

02:09:44.040 Oh, you don't?

02:09:44.760 Everybody's fine with it.

02:09:45.780 Yeah.

02:09:46.040 It's great.

02:09:46.860 We love sports.

02:09:48.060 People love basketball.

02:09:49.300 And there's no conservative or liberal who's complaining about the racial

02:09:52.380 component of the sport.

02:09:54.680 But it's the other way around in some industry, Hollywood or whatever,

02:09:57.900 they throw a fit.

02:09:59.100 Mm-hmm.

02:09:59.520 It's got to be people.

02:10:00.580 They do that with quarterbacks a lot.

02:10:01.620 Yeah, they do.

02:10:02.300 They do.

02:10:02.700 But that's why I agree with the, like, whenever we were thinking about

02:10:07.440 affirmative action and we were kind of breaking that down,

02:10:09.540 and I was really trying to like, okay, do I agree or do I disagree?

02:10:12.020 I disagree.

02:10:12.660 When they put it in sports, like, the knowledge is like, you know,

02:10:15.000 we don't need the best players will play.

02:10:17.720 And, like, the schools, like, okay, Harvard is 99% Asian because they like school?

02:10:23.640 That's better.

02:10:24.180 They smart.

02:10:24.680 That's what they deserve.

02:10:25.920 There's no black people there.

02:10:26.900 That's all y'all.

02:10:27.660 The way I put it was when these liberals tell me that they're, like,

02:10:32.140 for affirmative action, I said, okay, here's what I want you to do.

02:10:34.860 There's a poor Asian kid who grew up in Chicago.

02:10:38.800 His parents are from Chicago, so they don't know anything else.

02:10:42.360 Tell him he doesn't get to go to Harvard because he looks too much like

02:10:45.220 those people over there.

02:10:46.400 Exactly.

02:10:47.100 It's crazy to me that they're like, I look at your face and your skin is a

02:10:50.660 certain tone.

02:10:51.120 You can't go to this school.

02:10:52.760 That makes no sense.

02:10:53.640 That is racism.

02:10:54.480 Right.

02:10:54.840 That is racism by textbook definition.

02:10:56.560 We're going to start wrapping up, though.

02:10:58.260 So if you guys want to give, like, your final thoughts or anything and shout out

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02:11:38.720 Tim's an awesome guy, man.

02:11:39.780 I used to watch your content.

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02:11:44.500 He's getting, this guy's awesome.

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02:11:46.700 I appreciate it.

02:11:48.080 Well, I'll say it again as I wrap up for my final thoughts is, like, my mom, you know,

02:11:52.480 I mentioned, I think, on the members only that we were having you guys on, and she immediately

02:11:55.080 texted me, like, I watch them all the time.

02:11:56.560 I'm such a big fan.

02:11:57.680 And then she sent me your ACDC video, and she's like, look, watch this video, watch

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02:12:02.240 I know she's watching right now.

02:12:03.440 Hey, mom.

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02:12:06.140 That's how we got home with Vavate.

02:12:07.780 That's crazy, yeah.

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02:12:10.800 Yeah.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - October 18, 2024

From BLM To Trump Supporters, The Cartier Family w⧸ The Cartier Family

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