The Culture War - Tim Pool - February 28, 2026


Gen Z Men Are SCREWED, The Dating Market Is BROKEN ft. Hoe_Math


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On today's show, we have a story about a woman who saved enough money to buy tickets to a Metallica concert so she could be there in the front row to see the band live. She saved so much money that she was able to get a seat close enough to actually see and hear them.

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00:01:03.700 She saved so much, she got her seat close enough to actually see and hear them.
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00:01:18.640 The reason that that doesn't work anymore is because women feel comfortable, you know, playing the field and doing what they want for as long as they can. 1.00
00:01:29.620 Because they know that this and this is going to support them.
00:01:34.640 And they're not really aware that it's coming from anyone.
00:01:37.900 That's something that I call, I call that Santa-ism.
00:01:40.740 Because it's like Santa brings everything.
00:01:43.400 So, people who don't understand that someone is paying the cost.
00:01:48.980 They will say things like, health care should be free.
00:01:52.360 Education should be free.
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00:01:56.060 And it's like, this is the should be allowed.
00:01:58.780 It costs money.
00:02:00.000 It costs something.
00:02:01.340 But they're not aware of the cost.
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00:03:44.340 We have HoMath here.
00:03:45.660 I just want to open up.
00:03:46.560 This is what we're going to be discussing.
00:03:48.240 The Gen Z romance gap.
00:03:49.920 Why half of young men are not dating.
00:03:52.900 What is going on here?
00:03:54.200 I don't know what's going on.
00:03:55.000 This is why I had to bring in HoMath.
00:03:56.660 HoMath, can you hear me?
00:03:58.020 I can hear you.
00:03:59.040 What is going on, Patriot?
00:04:00.660 I had to bring you in for this story.
00:04:02.320 I had to figure out what's going on, and there's no one better than you to break this down.
00:04:06.880 What are your thoughts on the great, I guess they're saying the hoeless generation. 1.00
00:04:11.520 This is a generation with no hoes, and what is going on? 1.00
00:04:15.100 Where are the hoes at? 1.00
00:04:15.840 It's becoming a very salient question.
00:04:18.400 Yeah.
00:04:18.740 It's, I mean, I don't know where to start.
00:04:21.080 It's such a broad question.
00:04:22.860 The attitudes that men and women have towards each other, young men and women in particular,
00:04:27.700 have changed a lot.
00:04:28.640 I am in, you know, a very particularly good position to understand this because I sort
00:04:37.380 of like aged into and out of my dating market value in such a way that I started dating Gen 1.00
00:04:46.680 Z girls, like as they were, you know, getting old enough to date. 1.00
00:04:52.260 In my 30s, I was dating Gen Z girls in their 20s as they were rising in their market value. 0.99
00:05:01.000 So I got to date millennial women when I was young and Gen Z women when I was, you know,
00:05:06.300 starting to age out.
00:05:07.640 And I can see the attitude changes that have come through, you know, the internet and changes
00:05:14.620 in culture.
00:05:15.240 And you can list the, I was trying to make an acronym for it.
00:05:18.500 Like I use the awful acronym in my last video for the affluent white female urban liberals. 1.00
00:05:25.160 I'm trying to make an acronym for the things that get taken over that send messages into
00:05:30.920 society that really change what people think.
00:05:33.260 And there are things like government and media and education and of course, technology and
00:05:42.560 they're creating attitudes.
00:05:45.700 These, the messages coming through these things are creating attitudes in both men and women
00:05:51.040 that they don't, they're more misanthropic.
00:05:54.540 They like people less.
00:05:55.580 They go out less.
00:05:56.420 They have less hope.
00:05:57.800 The women have higher expectations of the men than they used to. 0.98
00:06:03.280 They're, people are colder towards each other.
00:06:05.820 They're much more calculating.
00:06:07.720 Yeah.
00:06:08.060 When, when I was younger, I noticed that younger women were much more likely to just want somebody 1.00
00:06:13.520 that they liked.
00:06:15.200 And as I got older, I mean, you know, and this is also a function of me getting older
00:06:19.680 too, but I noticed that the women are, are much more looking for men that can do something 1.00
00:06:24.420 for them.
00:06:25.080 And that something can be, you know, it can be, uh, uh, excitement like sexual excitement,
00:06:30.820 or it can be money, which is what I've drawn here.
00:06:35.600 Um, can you see my whole screen?
00:06:37.180 Yeah.
00:06:38.080 Cool.
00:06:38.560 So it can be, you know, either the one thing or the other, but what I've noticed is that
00:06:42.540 more and more of the young women seem to be, you know, splitting that up between people.
00:06:47.120 Like they're getting one thing from one place and one thing from another place.
00:06:50.320 You've heard of hoflation, right?
00:06:52.180 You've seen, uh, the whatever podcast, which is just that I, I just love that Brian does
00:06:57.020 that so often.
00:06:58.800 And so perfectly that he just brings on these women who are, he says that he's not looking 0.60
00:07:04.500 particularly hard to find examples of, of these awful attitudes and women, but even 0.95
00:07:10.240 if he is, it's just really important that people see that because it's, it's the entitlement
00:07:15.240 and it's the, um, the egotistical, like people have been asking me to make videos on egocentrism
00:07:22.900 and that really is at, at the core and at the root of it.
00:07:27.760 I think egocentrism has been increasing since the boomer generation.
00:07:32.620 I'm sure you've seen those memes where it's like, they have the old sepia tone photo, you
00:07:39.840 know, of the old, like the guy in the top hat and the woman in a bonnet.
00:07:43.980 And, and, and they say like, we just want a better life for our children.
00:07:46.620 And then the next generation is, we just want a better life for our children.
00:07:49.340 And then the boomers say, you entitled brats, get your own money. 1.00
00:07:52.940 And then the millennials say, kids not happening.
00:07:55.300 Right.
00:07:55.700 Right.
00:07:56.260 So it just sort of started with the boomers, the entitlement and the egocentrism, the me 0.98
00:08:01.580 generation, and it's getting worse and worse every generation.
00:08:07.300 Yeah.
00:08:07.540 So I think that's, that's at the core of it.
00:08:09.560 And, you know, there's so many aspects of it.
00:08:11.800 Like this is why I keep making successful videos about it.
00:08:15.520 There's so many aspects of it and so many things to watch out in the field of, of dating
00:08:21.360 and so many strings to pull on.
00:08:23.580 Like economics has a role in it and changing demographics has a role in it.
00:08:29.220 And the affordability of living has a role in it.
00:08:31.800 Like, you know, women just don't want men who can't afford a basic life and more and 0.96
00:08:36.380 more men can't afford a basic life, but, um, yeah.
00:08:41.140 But, but basically it is, you know, if I was going to put it all into one bubble, it's
00:08:49.200 the way that we view each other has changed because so many other things have changed and
00:08:53.260 I'm working on a way to sum that up.
00:08:55.360 Well, it's because even at the macro level, you know, okay.
00:08:59.020 We, we see these, these issues with the dating market.
00:09:01.380 Like you said, the way that I totally agree.
00:09:03.460 I think zoomers, um, are increasingly distrustful of basically everyone. 1.00
00:09:08.880 I think some of that is obviously, um, like an internal issue with zoomers, but I think
00:09:12.760 a lot of it is external.
00:09:13.640 I think, yeah, you, like you said, demographic change.
00:09:15.620 I mean, again, we have a very low trust society now.
00:09:18.220 So again, people are just increasingly skeptical.
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00:09:51.960 Um, movement, women are terrified because of like feminism. 1.00
00:09:55.140 It's been internalized sort of a fear of men.
00:09:57.760 Um, but then even at the micro level, I think about my own life, you know, I come from a,
00:10:02.220 a Christian background.
00:10:03.560 I know a lot of great men, great women that would make great husbands, make great wives,
00:10:08.300 and they just can't seem to find each other.
00:10:10.200 So even removing the macro trends that we're seeing, even at the stock of people that would
00:10:15.720 make great spouses, they're even having trouble finding each other.
00:10:19.560 Like all the institutions that, that would have facilitated those people finding each
00:10:23.040 other are just gone.
00:10:24.380 It's like what, 70% of couples are forming through online now.
00:10:27.620 I mean, it's like crazy. 0.94
00:10:29.900 Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0.88
00:10:31.320 Um, the, the breakdown of society is like, it's almost complete.
00:10:34.860 It's people are really mostly just sitting at home, looking at the phone and getting all
00:10:40.860 of their ideas through the phone.
00:10:42.500 And it's so, I don't know, ironic, I guess, is, is the first word that comes to mind that
00:10:49.080 I'm trying to fix that through the phone.
00:10:50.540 And I'm trying to say to people like, Hey, while you're here, you know, um, get a grip
00:10:56.160 on reality, uh, and, and try to remember that.
00:11:01.940 And, you know, remember isn't even the right word because these people never lived that life,
00:11:06.180 but try to realize that real life, you know, doesn't happen.
00:11:11.180 It's not mediated through a screen and you're only seeing what people want you to see.
00:11:16.480 And you're supposed to get out and, uh, uh, you know, go have real life experiences with
00:11:22.660 people.
00:11:22.880 But whenever I tell people that they just say, well, how am I supposed to do that?
00:11:26.920 No one else is doing that.
00:11:28.460 Yes.
00:11:29.000 There, you know, I have, I have coaching clients who say, where am I supposed to go to meet
00:11:32.480 girls? 0.96
00:11:32.960 And I go, well, what about this?
00:11:34.180 And what about this?
00:11:34.720 And what about this?
00:11:35.120 And they go, no one's there.
00:11:36.180 They, uh, they talk about, uh, church.
00:11:38.300 I think, I think Pearl, uh, Davis, you know, Pearl.
00:11:41.500 Yeah.
00:11:42.200 I think she was the first one to, um, clue me in to the fact that, uh, that opportunistic
00:11:50.020 women had begun, had begun using church as a place to target innocent men to be used. 1.00
00:11:56.000 Like they, they are, they kind of know that they've lost their market value.
00:12:01.040 I'm just going to write lies here coming out of the phone to be clear about it.
00:12:05.620 Um, they, they, they know that they're losing their market value.
00:12:08.340 So they go to church and they find guys who are all innocent and they say, oh, I found
00:12:11.780 Jesus, you know, I'm, I'm clean and pure now.
00:12:15.220 Sure.
00:12:15.480 And so like, even church is not a great way to, to meet women anymore.
00:12:19.620 So it's like, if you don't meet someone in school, which they all think they're too young
00:12:25.900 to settle down anyway, then where is the social, like, where are the social places you're supposed
00:12:31.480 to go to meet people?
00:12:32.980 They're gone.
00:12:33.360 And the third places are evaporating and yeah, it's all going through online and that is
00:12:37.780 all mediated through the apps and you know, the experience of the apps, like you don't
00:12:41.460 have to tell this to any man.
00:12:43.240 We all know, like, even though I had times that I was successful on apps, I had years
00:12:48.840 where I was like, uh, I remember one girl back in the, in the, in the 20 teens, I think
00:12:56.120 trying to tell me that she felt bad for me because the apps are so hard on men.
00:13:00.740 And I was like, I don't, what are you talking about?
00:13:02.480 But a few years later I learned, you know, I figured out exactly what she meant.
00:13:06.760 I kind of fell out of the top 20% there.
00:13:09.580 You don't have to tell men how hard those apps are on them.
00:13:13.520 Um, but women usually don't get it. 1.00
00:13:17.260 Like I made a video about this a long time ago about how I, I had, I wish I kept the drawing.
00:13:23.720 I had a girl make a profile for me because, you know, she thought that it was, it was what 0.97
00:13:29.820 I put on the phone that was, that was, uh, uh, not working as must be bad information.
00:13:37.500 So I let her do it and I let her, uh, choose a picture of a guy that she thought was cute.
00:13:42.820 So we made a fake profile with a guy she thought was attractive and we tested her written profile
00:13:49.160 with my photo and with this guy's photo.
00:13:52.260 And she saw the difference was night and day.
00:13:53.960 And she just never really knew how to process that information.
00:13:57.640 So women are not really, not really getting what the experience of the apps is doing to
00:14:06.060 their own minds.
00:14:06.820 Like people don't have enough perspective on their own minds to know that their experiences
00:14:14.600 are not normal.
00:14:15.640 So, yeah, it's like the women, the, the, the, the impact that apps has on them is they 1.00
00:14:21.500 have perceived options.
00:14:23.200 Like they have endless options, which isn't the case off of the apps.
00:14:26.740 And then for men, it's perceived scarcity, which also isn't the reality off the apps.
00:14:32.000 And so for both people, it ends up forcing them into making bad decisions where women they're
00:14:36.760 passing up on what would be great options.
00:14:39.100 And then men, again, with perceived scarcity, they just take the first woman that's available 0.93
00:14:43.680 and end up in a really bad situation.
00:14:45.600 I've seen this happen time and time again, where a lot of men that are my age, I'm 25.
00:14:50.600 So a lot of zoomers, as soon as they get their first girlfriend, even if it's a terrible 1.00
00:14:54.140 match, a terrible fit, they just go all in.
00:14:57.040 Cause again, that perceived scarcity that they've grown up around.
00:14:59.680 And especially if they went onto the date, like the dating apps, uh, it just one shots
00:15:03.400 you and you just immediately think there must be something wrong with me.
00:15:05.420 So if a girl finally likes me, then I just need to lock this down as quick as possible.
00:15:09.300 Yeah.
00:15:09.660 And I mean, if it, if it is that hard to meet anyone and start a relationship, is it perceived
00:15:15.160 scarcity?
00:15:15.860 It's true.
00:15:16.440 At what point does it become actual scarcity?
00:15:18.900 Cause it's scarcity of attention.
00:15:20.640 It's scarcity of how much time you can actually get talking to women that are interested in
00:15:26.300 you.
00:15:26.460 So, you know, I, I understand why somebody would, you know, go for the first one and, uh, and
00:15:32.660 make something more of it than it really is.
00:15:35.260 Right.
00:15:35.660 And, uh, yeah, you know, people come to me for solutions.
00:15:39.540 And one of the things that I'm really, really good at is getting people to understand themselves.
00:15:45.300 Like people come to me with a question and, uh, and they say, you know, why did I feel
00:15:50.320 this?
00:15:50.680 Why did I do this?
00:15:52.080 Uh, what do I do about this situation?
00:15:54.000 And I'm really good at like walking them through themselves until they find the answer.
00:15:58.780 But I'm, I just don't have all of the solutions for what do we do in a society that doesn't
00:16:06.320 have options for us.
00:16:08.100 Right.
00:16:08.860 I mean, cause that's, that's the thing is the applications people give are just from
00:16:13.720 older people, especially are just kind of lazy. 0.78
00:16:16.560 Like they just don't understand the reality.
00:16:17.820 I mean, the church thing is a perfect example.
00:16:19.180 Like I'm a Christian, I'm a devout Christian.
00:16:21.000 And I would not really recommend church as a place to find a spouse purely because most
00:16:26.140 of these really, I got like worth churches that are worth your time to attend.
00:16:30.060 There's not really going to be anyone your age that's there if you're young.
00:16:34.020 Um, and, and then to your point there is occasionally, but oftentimes they could just
00:16:38.980 be a viper.
00:16:39.900 They know better, or even if they really had this change, you're still signing up for
00:16:43.640 a lot of like baggage that maybe you don't realize you're signing up for.
00:16:46.360 Cause again, a lot of these guys that are in these churches and by extension, the girls,
00:16:49.660 but that grow up in the church and stay in the church, have a degree of innocence, a
00:16:53.080 degree of insulation from how the world actually is.
00:16:56.520 Um, it's just a really grim situation.
00:16:58.560 So it's like, I mean, best case scenario you could, but it seems like the only couples that
00:17:02.540 I know from my life found each other in college or online through the apps mostly.
00:17:08.100 How old are you?
00:17:09.000 I'm 25.
00:17:10.280 Yeah, that makes sense.
00:17:11.480 So they found each other in college or through the apps and it's not, is it, I mean, what
00:17:16.180 percentage of your friends would you say are finding or actually finding relationships?
00:17:19.660 through the apps?
00:17:21.160 Like 20, 30%, I would say.
00:17:23.260 Yeah.
00:17:23.640 That's not a lot.
00:17:24.200 So you just got a lot of single friends.
00:17:25.940 Yeah.
00:17:26.260 Yeah.
00:17:26.880 And, uh, it's becoming in vogue.
00:17:29.020 This is, this is really specific to, uh, DC and New York.
00:17:33.100 I've noticed this has become very in vogue to set friends up with, I know it sounds crazy,
00:17:37.540 set friends up with each other, but like, that's a very rare thing for zoomers to do. 1.00
00:17:41.060 And so I've heard like in the last two or three years, a lot more of my friends going
00:17:44.860 on blind dates, these sorts of things.
00:17:47.160 But my hometown, you know, Memphis suburbs, that is.
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00:18:42.600 That's where most of my friends are single and really suffering.
00:18:47.060 I don't know if it has to do with maybe New York and DC having the probably a much higher
00:18:51.340 proportion of single women because of the way careers just work the way the industries 0.99
00:18:55.540 work.
00:18:57.380 But yeah, it's a lot of these guys that again have really good jobs, but that's it.
00:19:02.860 They live to work.
00:19:03.760 They're really getting hammered.
00:19:05.600 Um, so they're not like you're saying they're not interested in dating or, uh, they, they
00:19:10.060 probably would be, but a lot of them have tapped out cause they have, you know, a hinge
00:19:13.000 account that gets one like every month.
00:19:14.700 And so, right.
00:19:16.680 So you're saying I got a little confused with what you're saying there.
00:19:19.560 You're saying that people are setting their friends up with each other, but they are,
00:19:23.240 they do that less in DC and New York.
00:19:24.920 No, I'm saying in New York and DC, it's, it seems like the dating mark is actually a bit
00:19:27.980 healthier, which is funny.
00:19:28.960 Cause I think the narrative online, especially on the right is that these cities are like cesspools
00:19:32.900 with all these, uh, like, you know, awful.
00:19:34.900 And that's true, but it does seem like that's where you're finding a higher proportion of
00:19:39.000 couples than you would find.
00:19:40.700 Right.
00:19:41.100 Yeah.
00:19:41.600 It definitely, when I lived in the cities, it was easier to get attention from women. 1.00
00:19:45.660 Like that's where all the young people go to meet each other. 0.99
00:19:48.080 It's just that most of them are, you know, insane. 0.99
00:19:50.800 Right.
00:19:51.400 When you, when you live in that really dense, uh, social, it's like a black hole.
00:19:57.380 It's like a social black hole.
00:19:58.920 It's like gravity.
00:19:59.720 The, and the more, um, density of opinions that you're surrounded by, the more likely
00:20:07.080 people are to have them.
00:20:08.680 And the women that I would meet, like right in the heart of the cities were, their opinions
00:20:13.420 were absolutely insane.
00:20:14.460 And then I would like get to know them for two or three days and just go, there's absolutely
00:20:17.660 no way that this is going anywhere.
00:20:19.500 I'm not going to, you know, buy a ring for someone who believes the thing you just said.
00:20:24.380 That's like setting my whole life on fire.
00:20:26.500 So it's like, that's where they all are, but they also are, you know, the, the, uh, yeah,
00:20:33.920 I'm sure you've seen that graph also of the, um, like if this is more conservative and this
00:20:41.040 is more liberal or maybe it's the other way around, but they have the, um, they show the
00:20:47.660 men going like from liberal, like slightly more conservative and they show the women going 1.00
00:20:53.380 like that.
00:20:54.440 Yeah.
00:20:55.320 Yeah.
00:20:55.900 Yeah.
00:20:56.160 That is, that is, this is to me the core of what, of what's happening and why, because
00:21:06.500 this is, that's women setting the frame. 1.00
00:21:09.160 They're using their phones.
00:21:11.060 They're negotiating collectively.
00:21:12.860 So, uh, I, I made a video called a baby talk about how they, they try to talk down to you.
00:21:22.000 They try to control situations.
00:21:23.520 I made a video called, uh, who is a 10 about how they collectively negotiate through the
00:21:29.160 phone.
00:21:29.440 They have this network that they would never have in real life without social media where
00:21:33.720 they take all these, you know, the rules that are forged in the black hole of the cities
00:21:37.840 and they just communicate them outward through the phones.
00:21:41.380 And, uh, and then the women get in their heads that, um, like they're going to go protest 1.00
00:21:50.740 ice.
00:21:51.380 And if their husband says no, then you have to divorce him because he's abusing you.
00:21:55.100 There is just insane kinds of beliefs that come through the phones and they feel them so
00:22:00.880 strongly and they believe that that's true.
00:22:02.900 And how are you supposed to date women like that? 0.99
00:22:05.980 Yes.
00:22:06.780 I just didn't try.
00:22:08.060 I just stopped trying.
00:22:09.460 I moved away.
00:22:10.660 Well, cause it's, it's, it's, it's, you're unable to go on, on rescue missions for two
00:22:15.560 reasons.
00:22:15.800 I hate this, this narrative from the right wing from conservatives is they place all of
00:22:20.580 the blame on men where they're like, you know, men just aren't strong anymore.
00:22:23.840 Like women are desperate to be led, but it's these good, there's a good, uh, Scott Greer
00:22:28.100 says that there was a good man scarcity.
00:22:29.760 You know, there's this scarcity of men.
00:22:31.420 And he's, he's using this to mock these conservatives, but it's like, okay, maybe
00:22:35.860 that's true.
00:22:36.800 Men's like testosterone has gone on a little bit, but the women just, even if there was 1.00
00:22:39.940 a like total, you know, alpha or whatever, women just by and large really don't seem 1.00
00:22:44.880 to have the desire to be led because by and large they can lead their own lives because
00:22:48.460 the economy facilitates that.
00:22:50.080 And now they can be a man and a woman simultaneously.
00:22:53.180 Exactly.
00:22:53.540 Yeah.
00:22:53.880 So they're like, this is, this is men listen to me a lot more than women do. 0.98
00:22:59.900 And so I craft my messages mostly towards men, obviously.
00:23:04.020 And, uh, you know, the main message that I tell men is, you know, number one, I, I, uh,
00:23:10.060 talk about individual problems and I say, for example, in my baby talk video, like when
00:23:15.260 women talk to you like this, here's how you respond, here's how you deal with it. 1.00
00:23:18.960 So I give them real life skills, but number two, I say that like, no matter what the circumstances
00:23:25.420 are, the situ, the, the answer to the situation is always be more of a man.
00:23:30.260 I always use this little red arrow to just symbolize, you know, moving upward, getting
00:23:35.540 better at things, becoming stronger, grow your money, grow your portfolio, grow your
00:23:40.580 skillset, grow your social network.
00:23:42.500 Be more of a man is always the answer for men, but that doesn't guarantee it's going
00:23:49.380 to work.
00:23:49.960 Like that's not a, that's not a promise of, uh, that's not a, a contract that, that says
00:23:55.360 you're going to get a woman if you do that. 1.00
00:23:57.220 When I was in my twenties, I had a, uh, you know, a very sudden, um, time where I, I started
00:24:04.480 changing myself and I became more physically attractive and then women liked me a lot, but
00:24:08.540 I still was not very much of a man.
00:24:10.180 And I still was very liberal and I believed all this stuff they taught me in college and
00:24:14.540 everything, very wishy-washy.
00:24:16.240 And I learned a kind of slowly, like I, I went from, you know, a mess to good, to good
00:24:23.700 looking enough to be successful in the apps in like one year.
00:24:26.940 And then it took me about six years to become more of like a man, like what a man should
00:24:31.620 be.
00:24:31.860 Yeah.
00:24:32.220 And I noticed that women responded better to it, but as time went on and everyone got
00:24:38.020 more liberal and as I moved again towards the center of the city, the more they would
00:24:42.240 just reject it.
00:24:43.340 They just, they really don't want to be led.
00:24:45.600 They say they want to be led, but they want to be led in the way that they already feel
00:24:50.400 like they want you to go fight ice for them or something.
00:24:53.920 And it's like, but that's not what being a man, yeah, that's you setting the frame.
00:24:57.460 That's you telling me what you want me to do.
00:24:59.360 And this is not what I believe is right.
00:25:00.820 So it's like either you have to get behind me.
00:25:04.580 Um, I had a drawing for that too.
00:25:07.080 They're all, they're all cut up.
00:25:08.760 I'll just redraw it.
00:25:09.700 I had a, uh, I had a drawing with a man in the center and then, um, and then there's danger
00:25:16.940 over here and where she wants to be is over here. 1.00
00:25:20.980 So it's like people talk about bad boys and everything.
00:25:23.840 And why do women like bad boys? 1.00
00:25:25.200 Well, it's because they want you to be more bad than the danger.
00:25:29.040 Sure.
00:25:29.380 Right.
00:25:29.660 And so women are perceiving ice has the danger and not as illegal immigrants, which is, you 0.91
00:25:36.620 know, insane.
00:25:37.480 Yeah.
00:25:37.760 And there's no way that we can get a hold of that.
00:25:40.880 There's no, there's nothing we can do about that because we just don't control the media
00:25:45.340 that they're watching.
00:25:47.440 So, you know, it's being, becoming more self-possessed and everything.
00:25:52.900 It doesn't, it doesn't, it's like a chemical formula.
00:25:57.740 It's not really like addition and subtraction where the more of a man you become, the more
00:26:01.840 women will listen to you. 1.00
00:26:03.560 It's like, uh, you have to also understand the, like what she perceives as safety, what
00:26:11.960 she perceives as good and evil and right and wrong.
00:26:14.560 And there are some women who will, they'll just be very impressed. 0.99
00:26:18.800 Like, oh, you work out.
00:26:20.160 Oh, you dress well.
00:26:21.040 You have your life in order.
00:26:22.100 You have a good job.
00:26:22.900 But you don't believe all, all my crazy liberal things.
00:26:26.120 So that's it. 0.74
00:26:26.860 I'm ghosting you.
00:26:29.360 Yes.
00:26:30.120 Well, that's, that's like such a good point as being more, because something I've noticed,
00:26:34.300 we saw the data come in a few months ago where it inverted.
00:26:37.780 We're now men, the more, a higher proportion of men want to be a father, have a family, et
00:26:44.760 cetera, than women. 1.00
00:26:45.780 Because that was always the stereotype is like, oh, women will do whatever it takes for a ring. 1.00
00:26:49.320 And, and, you know, men are the ones holding out on these women and et cetera, et cetera. 0.78
00:26:52.960 That got completely flipped on its head.
00:26:54.300 Now it's the other way around where it seems like majority of my friends that are men are
00:26:58.140 like very desperate for a family and that, and that sort of comfort that comes with that.
00:27:01.740 And the women are increasingly more willing to test the waters, um, in their twenties and
00:27:06.340 thirties and see what they can do before they, I guess, settle down for lack of a better
00:27:09.240 word.
00:27:09.360 So it's just really bizarre.
00:27:10.980 And in addition to that, I'm noticing, I don't think this, I think it's a healthy impulse, but
00:27:16.560 it's not a good tendency to have is a lot of men, their goal in life is to get married
00:27:22.240 and have children.
00:27:22.940 And it's like, I agree that's noble and I want that as well, but that should be an outcome
00:27:27.880 from success.
00:27:28.860 Like you, that, that gyre, like that, like is generated from success, like a great family
00:27:33.900 life, et cetera.
00:27:34.660 I don't know what your take is on all that.
00:27:36.820 Yeah.
00:27:37.240 I mean, that's like, that's the formula that we used to have that, you know, the, the,
00:27:42.180 you, you'd be born and you'd grow up and you would, um, I think I have that somewhere
00:27:48.340 else to just redrawing all my charts today for you, uh, that you would, you basically
00:27:54.820 would be born and you would grow in like your attractiveness starts at, you know, in your
00:28:06.280 teens and peaks when you're about 27 and comes down slowly.
00:28:10.500 And for a woman, it starts in her teens and it peaks at like 22. 1.00
00:28:15.840 And then it comes down, you know, a little bit faster than a man's. 0.78
00:28:19.360 And then also as a man, you have a secondary value, which is your money, which, you know,
00:28:28.140 ideally gets high and stays high.
00:28:31.880 And, um, at some time around your, you know, physical attractiveness and your economic attractiveness,
00:28:39.960 you just become a viable candidate to get married.
00:28:43.440 And these things are just not, they're just not working like that anymore.
00:28:47.160 That, that paradigm is shifted because of very artificial pressures on the economy.
00:28:55.140 And people don't understand that they're artificial too.
00:28:57.700 Like I make this point so much, I've, I've drawn the picture, I've shown it so many times,
00:29:02.760 but just drawing the picture, you know, it communicates the concept, but it doesn't prove
00:29:08.340 it.
00:29:08.600 So now I have to make a whole big, long video to prove it.
00:29:12.560 Um, I'll zoom in.
00:29:15.740 It's just the reason that that doesn't work anymore is because women feel comfortable, 1.00
00:29:21.840 you know, playing the field and doing what they want for as long as they can, because they
00:29:26.640 know that, that this and this is going to support them.
00:29:31.100 And they're not really aware that it's coming from anyone.
00:29:34.480 That's something that I call, I call that Santa ism because it's like Santa brings everything.
00:29:38.900 And so people who don't understand that someone is paying the cost, they will say things like
00:29:46.600 healthcare should be free.
00:29:48.800 Education should be free.
00:29:50.160 Everyone should be allowed to live in America.
00:29:52.360 And it's like, this is the should be allowed.
00:29:54.960 It costs money.
00:29:56.140 Yeah.
00:29:56.540 It costs something, but they're not aware of the cost.
00:29:59.440 So I don't know how to communicate that to people.
00:30:03.020 I think it's fundamentally impossible to get most people to understand that, especially
00:30:07.720 women. 0.81
00:30:08.220 I think the average man, when, when he grows up understands that things aren't free, someone
00:30:14.540 pays for them.
00:30:15.240 But I think the average woman pretty much never learns that.
00:30:18.000 Yeah.
00:30:18.900 Even, even as she gets older, she just sees things as raining from heaven.
00:30:23.360 Absolutely.
00:30:23.840 Well, I mean, that's why you, you, you see, uh, like by a women, again, this is, you saw 0.97
00:30:29.820 this over and over again in the United States was like after the murder of Irina Zerutska.
00:30:33.900 So many of them had more of an issue of people's reaction to the murder than the actual murder
00:30:39.840 itself.
00:30:40.480 Yet they will go around and say, I can't walk at night.
00:30:42.660 Isn't this horrible?
00:30:43.400 This is the fault.
00:30:44.200 And again, this visual of who is the enemy in their head is like this chud, uh, like frat 1.00
00:30:49.300 bro or something.
00:30:50.000 When in reality, like the reality on the ground is it's actually the immigration policy and the
00:30:53.780 crime policy that is sort of deployed by the party that you keep voting for.
00:30:58.620 So it's like, there's just like, you're pointing out this complete detachment.
00:31:02.240 Cognitive distance. 0.85
00:31:02.580 They're insane.
00:31:03.260 Yeah. 1.00
00:31:04.060 They're insane. 0.92
00:31:04.740 The, the, the technology has made them insane.
00:31:07.060 And, you know, I might be, some people might think it's an extreme opinion, but, um, I don't
00:31:13.520 think, I don't think that we can really survive as a society if we continue to let people use 0.95
00:31:20.520 media this way.
00:31:21.200 It's just, I have this, this little drawing I've used in a over and over where the girl
00:31:26.260 is just watching the phone and it says man bad.
00:31:28.660 And then that is just her worldview now.
00:31:30.740 And then she starts seeing this guy as doing all the stuff that she saw on her phone.
00:31:35.380 She starts acting on it and never really gets up to the place where she's, you know, observing
00:31:41.300 herself from the outside and saying, should I believe these things?
00:31:43.920 It's just this cycle of just repeating what the phone gave me feelings.
00:31:48.880 And then I see someone in real life.
00:31:50.600 And so my feelings must be coming from him.
00:31:52.860 Yeah.
00:31:53.300 I don't think we're going to get out of that ever.
00:31:55.720 Yeah.
00:31:56.860 Ah, yeah. 0.65
00:31:57.800 I, I, yeah, it's going to, I, this is why it sucks for these people that are, again,
00:32:02.440 I, I respect their impulses, very like liberty minded, et cetera.
00:32:05.240 But it's like, we're in such a mess.
00:32:07.360 It's going to take drastic action to get out of a lot.
00:32:09.860 It's going to be, yeah, it's going to be drastic.
00:32:11.640 Like there's, there's going to be, um, there's going to be, you know, all there already has
00:32:19.480 been major changes in population.
00:32:20.860 That's going to continue.
00:32:22.280 There's going to be, uh, uh, huge changes in lifestyle.
00:32:25.200 I think, I think we're going to see things become less available that people are very
00:32:29.840 accustomed to.
00:32:30.740 Yes.
00:32:31.360 Yeah.
00:32:31.680 There's, there's just not going to be the same support structure that that's, that's
00:32:36.780 again, the, the cost of things, the support structure that's always been there, that the
00:32:45.200 roads are always going to be paved.
00:32:46.940 That's just not true.
00:32:47.980 If you don't have people doing it, um, I think at some point people will start noticing like,
00:32:53.960 Hey, what happened to the quality of life?
00:32:56.660 And then the way that I've been saying it on Twitter is that women are going to lose their 0.97
00:33:01.280 rights one way or another, either they'll come to their senses and say, okay, maybe we
00:33:06.800 shouldn't be in politics or they will keep going, you know, leftward.
00:33:12.000 They'll keep going, keep going, uh, uh, this way.
00:33:17.260 Yeah.
00:33:18.180 That, that spike will keep getting bigger and then everything will crash so hard that they
00:33:22.940 won't have like the concept of rights will be silly because it'll just be like, well,
00:33:27.320 it's no one's washing the clothes and I have to go kill an animal to eat.
00:33:30.860 So, yeah.
00:33:32.560 So what do you mean?
00:33:33.160 What do you mean rights?
00:33:34.340 Right.
00:33:35.080 Yeah.
00:33:35.380 I, I, I totally, it's the only way it can go.
00:33:37.300 I mean, South Korea is, is what, 10 years ahead of us. 0.94
00:33:40.680 They already have this divergence like at an extreme level.
00:33:42.880 So we're already seeing that again, the men just collectivize there and they, and they
00:33:46.700 enact their will at the ballot box.
00:33:48.040 So with that, I know we're kind of running out of time here.
00:33:50.660 I just wanted to read this quick super chat to give your thoughts on it.
00:33:53.360 This was from a Guido 240.
00:33:54.820 Um, it's, I believe it's a man.
00:33:56.780 He says, as a parent of a 16 year old and 13 year old, I worry so much for my kids,
00:34:01.460 a boy and a girl, uh, and their future and finding a spouse slash family.
00:34:06.500 I don't know what your thoughts are on, I mean, we, we kind of touched on a lot of
00:34:11.820 that, but it's gotta be a tough spot to be a parent right now.
00:34:15.080 Sorry, one more time?
00:34:15.880 No, I was like, it's just gotta be a tough spot to be a parent right now.
00:34:18.180 Cause it's one thing telling that to a 16 year old, but how do you tell that to their
00:34:21.100 parent?
00:34:22.340 It is.
00:34:22.940 I, I, I'm actually, you know, being popular and, and having, you know, millions of people
00:34:28.420 know who I am.
00:34:29.360 Um, I get a lot of women coming into my inbox and I'm, I'm having to think about like, what 1.00
00:34:37.000 if I'm a parent at some point, what kind of world is that going to be?
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00:35:32.920 I'm, I'm putting myself through that.
00:35:34.940 Like, I can't really imagine what it's like for people who are already parents, but I like,
00:35:41.880 I don't know what to tell them any more than I would know what to tell the kids because
00:35:47.020 I know what the formula is.
00:35:48.460 You have to make something of yourself and then you have to show it to people and then
00:35:52.760 someone likes it and then you, you know, you work on your relationship and you have open
00:35:56.240 communication and all that.
00:35:57.640 But if there's nowhere to meet people and if the, you know, the, the requirements are insane,
00:36:03.920 they, they want you to be part of like a polycule or some insane liberal city crap, then it's
00:36:11.180 just a non-starter.
00:36:13.000 So I guess all I can really say to that, that person is like, uh, I feel ya, you know, I
00:36:18.400 get it.
00:36:19.780 It's, um, it is a lot to worry about.
00:36:23.220 Well, yeah, I mean, I agree.
00:36:25.060 A lot of this is like, what are you going to do?
00:36:27.120 You kind of look, have to look towards policymakers and a lot of these instances is very unfortunate,
00:36:31.000 but it's just the reality of things.
00:36:32.780 Yep.
00:36:33.080 Well, we are running out of time here.
00:36:34.760 I really appreciate you coming on and demonstrating in real time.
00:36:39.680 All of this is so fantastic to have you.
00:36:41.860 Where can people find you to get more?
00:36:43.560 I imagine a lot of people know already, but for those who don't.
00:36:45.380 Yeah.
00:36:45.980 Yep.
00:36:46.360 So you just, you know, look up how math anywhere, uh, that's on YouTube.
00:36:52.280 Uh, I am, um, I have link tur dot E E slash home math.
00:36:59.860 That's where, that's where you can go to find everything that I do.
00:37:03.020 You can find my videos, you can find my charts, you can find everything I do there.
00:37:08.500 Uh, YouTube is the main thing I do.
00:37:11.180 I'll be making a lot more videos soon now that I'm finally settled in a house.
00:37:16.040 And, uh, yeah, like if you can't find everything I do from here, you just don't know how to
00:37:19.520 use the internet.
00:37:20.240 So just go to the link tree.
00:37:21.480 So true.
00:37:22.080 Well, awesome.
00:37:22.740 Well, I appreciate you so much for coming on.
00:37:24.720 I hope we can have you back on soon because this is fantastic.
00:37:26.940 Yeah, sure.
00:37:27.060 I appreciate it.
00:37:27.400 Yeah.
00:37:27.500 Thanks for having me.
00:37:28.220 All right.
00:37:28.540 See you later.
00:37:29.480 Okay.
00:37:29.780 Bye.
00:37:30.000 Bye.
00:37:30.920 All right.
00:37:31.440 Well, that was the great home math.
00:37:33.100 That was a blast.
00:37:33.900 That was real.
00:37:34.300 I mean, it's blackbilling in a lot of ways because he's absolutely right, obviously, but 1.00
00:37:37.780 him laying out the formulas and, um, actually sort of elaborating on just kind of stuff that
00:37:44.020 I'm pontificating and he can actually explain it in detail.
00:37:46.860 Um, it's excellent.
00:37:47.780 So hopefully we can have him back on soon.
00:37:49.720 Cause again, there's so many different topics we can get into, but with that, we got to wind
00:37:54.760 the show down.
00:37:55.400 It's unfortunate.
00:37:56.100 We're out of time folks.
00:37:56.880 So with that, you can follow me on X and Instagram at real tape Brown.
00:38:03.180 Come give me a follow over there and we'll be back tonight for Tim cast IRL at 8 PM.
00:38:08.220 Make sure you are there 8 PM Eastern.
00:38:09.960 I've been informed that I need to be telling you which time zone it is 8 PM Eastern.
00:38:13.440 And this show will be back tomorrow at noon Eastern.
00:38:16.280 So I will see you then.
00:38:17.420 Thank you very much for watching.
00:38:18.920 Thank you.
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