The Culture War - Tim Pool


GOP Rep Calls For CHAUVIN PARDON, Democrats Prep For Floyd RIOTS 2.0 ft. VivaFrei


Summary

Derek Chauvin is serving a sentence of 21 years in prison for the murder of a man named George Floyd. He was convicted of second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder in the death of George Floyd, who was found dead at the scene of the crime. On this episode of the podcast, we discuss whether or not President Trump should pardon Derek Chauvin.


Transcript

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00:00:30.440 We have heard many statements from prominent individuals, largely in the political space,
00:00:35.220 calling for the pardoning of Derek Chauvin.
00:00:37.100 We have this from Marjorie Taylor Greene saying,
00:00:38.900 I strongly support Derek Chauvin being pardoned and released from prison.
00:00:42.500 George Floyd died of a drug overdose.
00:00:45.560 We've got a bunch of other stories, too.
00:00:47.760 The FBI investigating another attempted arson at a Tesla dealership.
00:00:52.240 We've got Tesla doxing attacks wrongly targeting non-owners.
00:00:57.060 It is getting pretty dang intense in this country.
00:00:59.760 I have another statement here, actually.
00:01:01.420 No, I don't.
00:01:01.940 I don't.
00:01:02.500 But many people are agreeing with Marjorie Taylor Greene in calling for the pardoning of Derek Chauvin,
00:01:06.540 which some fear could lead to riots.
00:01:09.520 So joining us to have this conversation and talk about what's currently going on and get his take on things
00:01:14.260 will be Viva Frye, who I am pulling in right now.
00:01:18.440 Let's see if we get this to load properly.
00:01:22.160 Sometimes it takes a second.
00:01:23.440 There we go.
00:01:23.960 We got Viva.
00:01:24.540 He's popping in right now.
00:01:26.400 Get this pulled up.
00:01:27.920 Viva, can you hear me?
00:01:28.920 I can hear you.
00:01:29.720 I can't see you.
00:01:31.020 Just a second.
00:01:31.760 You will see me in a second.
00:01:32.560 Can you see me now?
00:01:33.400 Yeah, I feel so dirty doing this digitally, Tim.
00:01:36.280 We always see each other in person.
00:01:38.780 How are you doing?
00:01:39.680 I'm doing pretty well.
00:01:40.460 How about yourself?
00:01:41.560 Not bad.
00:01:42.080 I heard the news.
00:01:42.860 I've been following the markets.
00:01:44.140 But Chauvin hasn't yet hit 99% on the cal shoe markets.
00:01:48.840 No, he hasn't.
00:01:49.820 Well, let's talk about it, man.
00:01:51.180 There's a lot to break down in this case and a whole bunch of other case and increase in left-wing
00:01:55.220 violence.
00:01:56.340 So the reporting is out of Minnesota, they're preparing for potential riots because they've
00:02:02.800 been briefed on two things.
00:02:03.920 One, that Trump may pardon Chauvin, but more importantly, that there may be preparations
00:02:10.660 to move Chauvin from, I believe he's in Arizona, to Minnesota.
00:02:16.100 I'm curious.
00:02:17.440 I mean, so you're a lawyer.
00:02:18.720 I know you are Canadian, but you have covered this and a bunch of other stories.
00:02:22.340 I don't think they're going to do it.
00:02:23.760 And just before we kick into the big picture on Summer of Love and all these riots and threats
00:02:27.160 of violence, you think this could happen?
00:02:29.660 I don't think he would do it because there's no political benefit to doing it, period.
00:02:35.340 There's no justice benefit because he's serving 21, 22 years for the state-level conviction
00:02:41.140 for which the pardon at a federal level will have no impact.
00:02:44.440 Arguably, it would only make things worse if he gets transferred to a state prison in
00:02:48.340 Minnesota where they probably want him dead anyhow.
00:02:50.560 But there's no political benefit to be had from this.
00:02:54.460 I followed the trial.
00:02:56.680 I came in thinking he was guilty and came out thinking he would get acquitted, but politics
00:03:01.740 is what it is.
00:03:03.160 But no, I don't see why he would do it if only just to burn the entire system down.
00:03:06.820 You pardon him federally.
00:03:07.900 You know there's going to be riots.
00:03:09.500 You know that people are going to go flipping crazy.
00:03:13.200 It will only be a stain on his presidency, and it will have no impact because he's still
00:03:17.780 going to run away for 21 years on the state convictions.
00:03:20.560 Do you think, but I guess functionally, morally, should he be pardoned?
00:03:26.120 The trial was not fair.
00:03:28.220 I mean, put it that way.
00:03:29.400 Whether or not you even think he was guilty.
00:03:31.560 I started off, I saw the video, I was shocked and outraged.
00:03:36.100 Evidence is what it is, and I believe it's more likely than not, and certainly not beyond
00:03:40.300 a reasonable doubt that he was guilty of George's death, that the guy died of an overdose.
00:03:44.580 I mean, we know it now.
00:03:45.580 The excuse that, oh, he was a habituated drug user, so his tolerance level was higher.
00:03:50.540 Horse crap.
00:03:51.640 I mean, we're talking not about reasonable doubt anymore.
00:03:53.800 Now we're talking about suspending disbelief.
00:03:55.880 You know, during the trial, the expert, for Chauvin's expert, at his former residence,
00:04:00.320 they woke up with a severed pig's head.
00:04:02.660 You know, witness intimidation.
00:04:04.020 You had Biden coming out, chiming in on the guilt.
00:04:06.500 So there was nothing constitutionally fair about this trial, and it's not because I don't
00:04:10.640 really like Chauvin.
00:04:11.440 I don't think he's a very praiseworthy character on a personal level, tax fraud, a bunch of
00:04:17.140 other crap.
00:04:17.840 But no, he did not get a constitutionally fair trial, but there's no benefit to this type
00:04:23.640 of pardon where he's going to stay in jail anyhow, I think.
00:04:26.240 So I'll be shocked if they do do it.
00:04:28.360 It seems like an unnecessary battle to pick at this time, but who knows?
00:04:31.380 Maybe it's a distraction that Trump strategically wants.
00:04:33.780 Just before I joined with you, I was having a great conversation with ChatGPT about the
00:04:40.900 case.
00:04:41.360 And it is fascinating how these AI programs are super liberal, and they always try to
00:04:47.780 shift the context towards the liberal perspective.
00:04:51.740 So I asked ChatGPT, did George Floyd have a lethal amount of fentanyl in his system?
00:04:58.120 All I asked.
00:04:58.920 And the response was, George Floyd had 11 nanograms per milliliter in his system.
00:05:04.980 However, and then it gives me this big diatribe about all these different medical experts saying
00:05:11.040 that it had nothing to do with it.
00:05:12.680 I did not ask the robot if it did or didn't, just if it was a lethal amount.
00:05:18.700 Following up, I asked it, what is the typical overdose level for fentanyl?
00:05:23.280 Three nanograms per milliliter.
00:05:24.900 It's amazing, Tim.
00:05:27.580 I mean, I don't think it's leading you in that direction.
00:05:30.080 I think it's aggregating the information from those sources to begin with.
00:05:33.820 I've been having a fun one with, I say fun, it's cynically fun, with Chat, not ChatGPT,
00:05:38.440 but Grok, about whether or not there's a white genocide going on in South Africa.
00:05:42.800 And the answers are no, but they don't break down crime by race in South Africa.
00:05:48.880 So I was like, how can you assert that there's no white genocide when South Africa is not breaking
00:05:52.820 down crimes by race?
00:05:54.080 And then you ask them what percentage of farmers that have been murdered since 1990 were white,
00:05:58.460 and they say it's over 87%.
00:06:00.140 So you are battling, it's wild.
00:06:02.820 You're battling, excuse me, you're battling a system that is, it's aggregating its information
00:06:08.060 from the sources that are out there, which are by and large left-leaning, and then you
00:06:12.660 correct it, and then it says, oh, I'm sorry, I did not know that, I'll do better in the future
00:06:16.300 type of thing.
00:06:17.100 You know, it gets worse.
00:06:19.640 I asked ChatGPT the other day about the infant rape crisis in South Africa, and it told me
00:06:26.120 my question potentially violated its policies and removed it.
00:06:31.860 Maybe clarify for the pervert ChatGPT that you weren't asking for instructions, you were
00:06:36.420 asking for information.
00:06:37.700 No, when they get questions like that, and they derive it from there, they go to blue sky
00:06:41.100 sources, and I'm like, yes, this is asking for illegal activity.
00:06:43.780 No, no, it's wild, but nobody can look at the George Chauvin, the Derek Chauvin trial
00:06:50.040 and say he got a fair trial.
00:06:51.760 It was a foregone conclusion that as bad as the riots were after Floyd's death, they would
00:06:56.240 have been exponentially worse after a Chauvin exoneration or finding of not guilty.
00:07:01.560 So, but are they going to, are they going to pardon him?
00:07:04.120 There are much more worthy people on the list and much more, you know, people on the list
00:07:09.360 for whom a pardon will have a practical effect and not just a destructive effect for,
00:07:13.780 for Trump's presidency, I would argue.
00:07:15.760 But that feels a bit utilitarian to me.
00:07:18.760 You're not wrong.
00:07:19.620 I mean, as I say it out loud, I can, you know, say don't do it because the backlash is going
00:07:23.840 to be too grotesque and there'll be no practical benefit to it.
00:07:27.220 Flip side, do it as a matter of principle, even though it will have no positive impact.
00:07:32.480 One is Kantian imperatives, categorical imperatives, you know, don't lie and don't do things that
00:07:36.540 are wrong.
00:07:37.000 The other one is a consequentialist utilitarian sort of measurement.
00:07:40.060 Will it do anything that'll be more positive than destructive and will it have any practical
00:07:44.260 impact on Chauvin?
00:07:45.260 The answer is probably a hard no to that.
00:07:47.540 But the trial was not fair.
00:07:48.560 Anybody who says it was didn't watch it or is happy with the injustice.
00:07:51.920 The judge literally said it.
00:07:54.400 The judge Cahill, when there was a request to move venue, said there's, he's not going
00:07:59.880 to get any fairer trial anywhere in the state because it's already been heavily publicized.
00:08:04.360 So it's going to happen here in Minneapolis under razor wire, armed guards, armed personnel
00:08:11.480 carriers and riots outside.
00:08:14.400 And, you know, you know, what's fascinating is just to, you know, I love harping on the
00:08:18.300 AI, I think just to mock it when it tries to volunteer information I didn't ask for about
00:08:23.440 why Chauvin is guilty.
00:08:24.740 I then asked, is it a fair trial if the jurors are led into a courtroom under armed guard,
00:08:32.120 razor wire and riots?
00:08:33.380 And it said, it said no.
00:08:34.820 In that circumstance, no fair trial was had.
00:08:37.420 Not to mention, you mentioned who was it?
00:08:39.980 Who had, was it a pig's head?
00:08:41.720 Yeah, it was the, it was the Chauvin's expert.
00:08:44.220 To the best of my recollection, I hope I'm not making a mistake.
00:08:46.160 I don't think I am.
00:08:47.160 There was a severed pig's head found at his former residence.
00:08:50.100 And so the argument at the time was that it couldn't have been witness intimidation because
00:08:54.560 it didn't happen at his current residence.
00:08:56.080 But there was, there was active witness intimidation.
00:09:00.440 There was active presidential influence in this case.
00:09:03.820 There was ridiculous media bias.
00:09:06.460 And I'm fairly certain also in this particular case, there was a, basically a runaway jury,
00:09:11.100 activist jury who wanted to get on the jury to convict.
00:09:13.820 This is crazy.
00:09:14.380 So I just checked it real quick and you're right.
00:09:16.560 It was Barry Broad, a retired police officer who had testified as a defense witness in
00:09:21.480 Derek Chauvin's trial.
00:09:22.900 He'd stated that Chauvin's restraint of George Floyd was consistent with proper police practices.
00:09:27.660 And then someone tried to dox him and they put a severed pig's head.
00:09:32.660 I think it was like on his, let me, let me, let me see.
00:09:34.600 What did they say?
00:09:35.040 Like, uh, on the porch of the former residence.
00:09:37.440 So it wasn't his current address of my memory.
00:09:39.620 And they, what is it?
00:09:41.300 They, uh, defaced a nearby statue with blood, leaving a sign that read oink, oink.
00:09:47.480 Can you imagine like even suggesting that this is, this is mob rule, activist jury members
00:09:53.680 sneaking their way.
00:09:55.040 Tim, it was, it was, I get mixed up between all of these cases because Roger Stone had
00:09:58.460 an activist, uh, jury floor person as well.
00:10:01.300 This was the case where a guy basically admitted to having lied to get on the jury so he could
00:10:05.280 convict him in the first place.
00:10:06.240 I, I fairly certain it was in the Chauvin case.
00:10:08.060 I think, I think it is, it is funny because when I was doing the research, I was, I was
00:10:11.960 like, didn't the, uh, wasn't there a journalist who chased the jury bus to try and figure out
00:10:17.940 who the jurors were?
00:10:19.340 And I thought that was showing, I looked up, it was Kyle Rittenhouse in the Kyle Rittenhouse
00:10:23.380 trial, an NBC freelancer was stalking the jury bus.
00:10:27.980 And I'm like, you know, I, all of these, all of these trials, I get confused about the
00:10:32.220 evil things these leftists are doing to try and skew the legal system in their benefit.
00:10:36.420 But you remember the Roger Stone one, it was the jury floor woman who said that she
00:10:41.420 wasn't politically active, didn't know it, had Facebook posts about Roger Stone, about
00:10:45.940 Donald Trump.
00:10:46.880 It's, and when we watched the movie Runaway Jury, you say, no, that's too ludicrous.
00:10:50.960 You know, they would have done their due diligence on, uh, John Cusack as the jury member.
00:10:54.820 And you realize like today in today's day and age with the technology, with the social media
00:10:59.860 footprint, they still get activist juror members to lie their way onto the jury.
00:11:04.420 And then it's a done deal.
00:11:06.020 And what are you going to do then to hold another trial?
00:11:07.960 I mean, the bottom line though, Chauvin's going to rot in jail regardless because they
00:11:13.380 got him on the state charges, which were how you can go for state charges that are tangentially
00:11:18.120 or even incidentally, let alone directly related to the federal charges.
00:11:21.200 It's double jeopardy by its definition.
00:11:23.580 I know legally it's not, it's just an issue that, that, you know, we have with Barnes and
00:11:28.700 I, with the American system is you're giving, you're, you're charging for state level crimes
00:11:32.480 for the same crime.
00:11:33.620 And so he goes away for 22 years at the federal level, 21 years at the state level, at least
00:11:37.840 it's concurrent and not consecutive and, uh, pardoning him will do nothing.
00:11:42.360 Uh, and I, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene put out the tweet and I, it wasn't a rag on
00:11:46.240 her.
00:11:46.320 It's just like, he's not, he's not leaving prison one way or the other.
00:11:48.740 So what good does this pardon do?
00:11:51.000 But, you know, I'll go ahead.
00:11:53.460 I was going to say, but it does make people realize you go look at the coroner report.
00:11:57.360 The man had four, three to four times the normal lethal dose in his blood.
00:12:02.440 He was caught sticking it in his mouth before saying, I have breathing issues.
00:12:06.000 If he had died without the intervention of Chauvin, they would have blamed it on COVID.
00:12:09.780 So it is causing people to go in and really look into it.
00:12:13.320 They did say he had COVID too.
00:12:14.760 He did.
00:12:15.300 He did.
00:12:15.640 That's crazy.
00:12:16.160 If there had not been police intervention, they could have approximately or causally the
00:12:19.800 way they did it for all the other COVID deaths linked it to COVID.
00:12:22.200 It was within a month or two months of his having COVID.
00:12:24.100 They would have called it long COVID.
00:12:25.140 It was funny because it was actually a joke where people were tweeting how long until
00:12:29.780 they say George Floyd had COVID.
00:12:31.100 And then they released that he had COVID and everyone's like, oh my God.
00:12:34.220 No, you imagine a man with, I don't attribute very much to COVID, but a man who ingested a
00:12:40.780 lethal amount of fentanyl and their argument was, well, he's a, he's a, he's a well conditioned
00:12:45.500 drug user.
00:12:46.220 So they don't die.
00:12:47.060 Who do you think dies from drug overdoses?
00:12:49.020 It's not the novices first time users.
00:12:51.460 It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
00:12:53.060 they, uh, and this is just what I got from
00:12:55.120 a cursory search.
00:12:56.220 Three nanograms per milliliter is the typical overdose.
00:12:59.020 And he had 11 overdoses are from habitual users.
00:13:02.540 Typically, like, like you mentioned, it's not like one dude, one time just says it's
00:13:05.520 the first time I'll ever do it.
00:13:06.280 And it just instantly drops dead.
00:13:07.760 They're chasing that high.
00:13:09.060 So they keep increasing their consumption until they overdose.
00:13:12.540 And it's, and it's respiratory.
00:13:14.300 It's respiratory failure.
00:13:15.800 I can't breathe, you know, the, the, the, the autopsy, which I didn't show compression
00:13:20.340 marks on the neck and I did the video looks so terrible and it was branded and packaged
00:13:25.360 and sold to the, you know, sold to the general public from a propagandized media perfectly.
00:13:29.280 It creates lingering memories that are impossible to overcome even after having watched the
00:13:34.300 trial, even after having read the medical reports.
00:13:36.640 But yeah, but bottom line, the trial wasn't fair.
00:13:39.880 I thought he ought to have gotten acquitted because I came in thinking guilt.
00:13:43.020 And then I came out thinking there is very much a reasonable doubt, but I'll be, I'll be
00:13:47.140 very surprised if Trump actually pardons him.
00:13:49.520 You know, I, I agree too, largely because when Trump was asked about it, he was like, I don't
00:13:53.940 know, like he's not heard of it.
00:13:55.580 I don't see the functional reason to do it.
00:13:58.480 I know there's the moral question of if it's the right thing to do, we do it.
00:14:02.140 However, Trump would not only have to pardon him at the federal level, they would have to
00:14:07.540 intervene to protect him from the state prison.
00:14:10.000 And, and I don't know what you do.
00:14:13.180 So let's say Trump pardons him at the, at the federal level, he would go to a state prison
00:14:18.580 that's arguably worse.
00:14:19.520 Trump would have to pardon him and then have law enforcement protect him from extradition
00:14:25.940 to Minnesota.
00:14:27.300 Right now, Chauvin is in a low security prison, which after he got stabbed several times, I
00:14:32.940 guess they moved him.
00:14:33.580 I'm not sure exactly how it went down, but it sounds like he's not in the worst of possible
00:14:38.600 like super max.
00:14:40.160 He's in like low security, you know, he's like wearing a white polo or something and drawing
00:14:45.380 paintings or something.
00:14:47.620 Hotep Jesus was on IRL.
00:14:48.760 I think it was Hotep.
00:14:50.100 And he said, you know what, man, for the, for the greater good, we're going to knock
00:14:54.480 down the wall between his cell and the next, give him a double wide, bring in some ladies
00:14:57.540 and tell him this is your life from now on, but we're not pardoning you because that would
00:14:59.980 just make everything worse.
00:15:01.600 I do think we have a challenge in that if we can recognize we have the power to pardon
00:15:06.500 somebody and we don't, we're basically saying that for political reasons, we would let
00:15:11.160 innocent people suffer as a challenge, I guess.
00:15:14.080 Well, it is.
00:15:16.260 This one's a little bit also a little bit different.
00:15:18.840 I mean, you have to motivate the reasons for the pardon, I would imagine, because people
00:15:23.160 are so indoctrinated to not even understand what went down during that trial.
00:15:27.280 Now, that was not, that was not copacetic.
00:15:30.340 But I say, look, if the argument is that it is the right thing to do, and therefore you
00:15:34.580 should do it, well, then the argument is going to be there are a million other cases where
00:15:38.340 it's right and it should be done as well.
00:15:39.580 So how do you prioritize?
00:15:40.560 Do you prioritize just because one is more politically relevant or more politically a
00:15:43.520 hot topic?
00:15:44.660 I mean, yeah.
00:15:45.760 Part of it, the federal level, and then what, you're going to try to get Harmeet Dillon in
00:15:49.660 at the state level to prosecute for civil rights violations?
00:15:52.240 Yes.
00:15:53.080 But that, again, this is not the right case to do that on.
00:15:56.300 Tina Peters is the right case to do that on in Colorado.
00:15:59.720 Dexter Taylor out of New York for Second Amendment violations is where you do it.
00:16:04.640 This is not even the right case to do that, where you're not even going to, you know, again,
00:16:10.040 it's just because he's been demonized and you think he's guilty or not innocent and deserves
00:16:14.140 something, but this would not be the right case to do that.
00:16:16.600 There's many, many more where it would be palatable, palpable, and more productive.
00:16:20.780 What is that?
00:16:21.600 You think that Tina, you said Tina Peters?
00:16:23.840 Oh, yeah, Tina Peters, the Colorado, the, you know, whistleblower who revealed or was
00:16:28.920 looking into the Colorado elections and the fishiness around there, and they locked up this
00:16:33.900 69, 67-year-old Gold Star mom for nine years in Colorado.
00:16:38.420 I mean, longer than rapists get in Colorado.
00:16:40.820 Wow.
00:16:41.420 And it's egregious.
00:16:43.400 It's egregious.
00:16:44.140 The trial was egregious.
00:16:45.240 The judge was egregious.
00:16:46.760 Activist judge.
00:16:48.000 I don't know.
00:16:48.360 How familiar are you with Dexter Taylor?
00:16:50.220 No, what is that one?
00:16:51.480 Dexter Taylor is a 65-year-old.
00:16:54.040 I say he's black, not because I focus on identity politics, because when I interviewed
00:16:58.740 him, he said, you know, this is a Democrat state's way of looking at black men, black
00:17:03.560 people and saying, you don't get to defend yourselves.
00:17:05.460 This man was assembling firearms in his own apartment, lawfully, in quotes, from kits that
00:17:11.480 he ordered online, that he lawfully procured, ordered in his name to his address, assembled
00:17:16.060 firearms in his New York apartment, never took them out, never sold them, never did anything
00:17:20.080 with them, gets raided, and then gets locked up for a decade in the state prison in New
00:17:25.360 York, where a judge literally said in court, this is New York state, don't bring in your
00:17:30.320 Second Amendment arguments in here.
00:17:31.740 The Second Amendment does not exist in this courtroom.
00:17:33.860 I remember this one, yeah.
00:17:35.240 Yeah.
00:17:35.400 So, and I've been talking to him periodically from the Coxsackie Correctional Facility in
00:17:39.960 New York.
00:17:40.320 I just love saying the name of the place where he's at, but Coxsackie, who, change the name,
00:17:45.980 people, or at least maybe it's, maybe it's Kosackie, I'm pronouncing a hard C-K.
00:17:49.440 So, you know, these are the cases where there's egregious civil rights violations that are
00:17:53.540 constitutionally relevant.
00:17:55.140 The argument will be a fair trial is constitutionally relevant as well, but I'd say tackle the lower
00:18:00.140 hanging fruits of the egregious injustices before the politically divisive ones that will
00:18:04.820 do more harm than good, I think, in the long run.
00:18:06.700 Have we seen these kinds of things in Republican jurisdictions?
00:18:10.660 The persecutions or the, no, I mean, you haven't seen, you haven't seen neither the
00:18:16.440 persecutions of innocent Democrats or the, you know, fighting back against the innocent
00:18:22.240 persecutions of so-called conservatives in Democrat states.
00:18:25.300 So they don't, they don't fight fire with fire.
00:18:28.340 You know, the red states can do similar things.
00:18:31.160 They can do similar things, you know, to the Fauci's of the world, to bypass a bullshit
00:18:35.420 federal, sorry, bullcrap federal pardon.
00:18:37.880 But, you know, red states can prosecute Fauci at state-level crimes.
00:18:42.140 No question.
00:18:42.700 Do it.
00:18:43.460 I mean, it's not even a question of fighting injustice with injustice.
00:18:46.240 Fight injustice with justice.
00:18:48.000 I can, I can see the appeal of being a Democrat now.
00:18:50.660 Why these people are unscrupulous, why they lie on TV, why they push false narratives.
00:18:54.780 You commit crimes and you get away with them.
00:18:57.820 Get away?
00:18:58.320 You get rewarded.
00:18:59.840 We all know what happened to Lisa Page and Peter Stroke.
00:19:02.700 They get a million dollar payday averaged out between the two.
00:19:05.740 The man got 1.2 million.
00:19:07.080 That's inequality right there.
00:19:08.920 Or the rioters in D.C. during Trump's first inauguration who sued after getting arrested
00:19:13.920 for rioting and won a million bucks.
00:19:16.280 People don't even know about the January 2017 insurrection.
00:19:20.920 That's right.
00:19:21.260 It's not even two-tiered justice.
00:19:24.220 It's lawlessness.
00:19:25.100 And they know that they're on the unlawful wielding of every branch of government abuse
00:19:30.500 of power.
00:19:31.820 But, you know, as I say, you don't fight that type of fire with fire.
00:19:34.740 And nor do you say, ha ha, to give you the middle finger, we're going to go pardon George
00:19:38.060 Floyd now.
00:19:38.900 And then try to go look into civil rights violations at the state level.
00:19:42.000 I mean, pick targets that are, you know, the Tina, Tina, go to Seattle.
00:19:48.660 Robert Barnes, my partner in law, pun intended, is representing a guy named Ben Suf, who they
00:19:54.360 just locked up for years because they abused of every political process, the judicial process,
00:19:59.920 and locked him up for texting his own kid in violation of a no-contact order.
00:20:03.880 Lock him up for years.
00:20:05.140 So, wow.
00:20:06.180 Civil rights violations.
00:20:07.140 There's plenty of them, and they seem to be occurring in blue states or blue cities
00:20:11.340 within red states.
00:20:12.340 Blue states, blue states.
00:20:13.520 I feel like if we don't have, you know, there's a lot of questions about pardoning Chauvin.
00:20:19.720 He might be in a better place.
00:20:21.720 And it's sad to say, but when faced with the state prison of Minnesota versus the federal
00:20:26.300 facility, Trump, the administration, they have control there.
00:20:29.080 They can go there and say, look, if we pardon you, you're just going to state prison in Minnesota.
00:20:31.860 We can't control that.
00:20:33.120 We're going to make sure things are nice and comfortable for you here, and we're sorry
00:20:35.600 this is happening, too.
00:20:36.820 So that is a challenge.
00:20:38.480 But I just feel generally, and I think most people agree, Republicans.
00:20:41.220 Republicans aren't doing anything.
00:20:43.020 Look, I'm in West Virginia.
00:20:45.720 This is deep, deep red.
00:20:47.340 They just won an entirely new Republican administration.
00:20:49.940 They've done some good things.
00:20:51.560 You know, they signed on to that artificial food dye ban, so they're on board.
00:20:55.460 And I'm sitting here asking these guys.
00:20:56.820 I've literally talked to them and said, I talked to a prosecutor in West Virginia, a
00:21:02.140 state prosecutor, and I said, why aren't you charging the Biden-Harris officials in their
00:21:07.220 campaign for the same garbage they went after Trump for?
00:21:11.780 You could do it.
00:21:12.880 If these people operated in your state to raise funds, anything they did is in furtherance
00:21:20.220 of that crime, and you have jurisdiction, and they just shrugged, and they're like, I
00:21:22.480 don't know.
00:21:23.260 I'm like, well, they're doing it to Trump, though.
00:21:24.580 Well, no, I'd say it's not a question of fighting dirty with dirt, and one is fighting the injustice
00:21:32.440 with justice.
00:21:33.320 You know, they're doing it with Leticia James now, a little too little too late, but my
00:21:36.800 goodness, you don't have to scratch the surface very deep to find their egregious, documented
00:21:42.280 criminality.
00:21:43.860 And so they're doing it with those two judges only because they caught them harboring illegals,
00:21:48.140 and only because they actually caught them directing or deflecting ICE agents from arresting
00:21:52.780 somebody who they had the author.
00:21:54.000 So they do it in the most egregious of cases, and maybe that's going to have a ripple, trickle-down
00:21:59.400 effect in terms of deterring the criminality.
00:22:01.580 I don't think it will.
00:22:02.680 So I think, you know, it's a good start, but it needs to go a whole hell of a lot more.
00:22:06.640 Leticia James, what's her face out of Fannie Willis, Judge Angoran, Judge Marchand, like
00:22:14.020 go after these judges, scratch the surface.
00:22:16.480 You will find not something that you can exploit, but something that you can legitimately prosecute
00:22:22.400 because they are bona fide criminals.
00:22:24.820 They're bona fide judges that should be impeached, and you need to start somewhere.
00:22:28.660 It's a good start with the few that they have, but there are many more that are very easy
00:22:31.620 targets, is eat low-hanging fruits in order to go after this corruption and fight fire
00:22:36.840 with fire, but not in the terms of abusing it the way they have.
00:22:39.180 Right.
00:22:39.600 I wonder if the bigger issue is just that what motivates a Republican-leaning individual
00:22:45.400 is different from what motivates a Democrat.
00:22:46.960 And so maybe the Trump administration, the DOJ, their concerns are, look, let's just win
00:22:52.820 in secure power now and deal with these individuals later.
00:22:56.960 I feel like Democrats, they go after Trump's lawyers, they go after innocent people because
00:23:02.680 they want you to fear that they will crush you.
00:23:05.280 However, as we've already seen with far-left terror, violence, they don't actually fear going
00:23:10.760 to prison.
00:23:11.640 I mean, they think it won't happen, and they sing songs when they do get arrested.
00:23:15.520 So if the Trump administration were to say, OK, I'm going to go after these people and
00:23:18.660 arrest them, I don't think it would be a deterrent.
00:23:21.760 These people want to get arrested.
00:23:23.160 If you look at what happened with the ICE facility in Newark, they were saying that some of these
00:23:28.460 Democrat individuals who showed up after the fact, the second protest, were volunteering
00:23:32.440 to be arrested.
00:23:34.160 They want to be arrested.
00:23:35.620 They want the martyrs.
00:23:37.380 Well, there's volunteering to be arrested like Greta Thunberg, and then there's actually
00:23:41.300 getting arrested and actually facing serious jail time for things that you can't politically
00:23:45.440 weasel your way out of.
00:23:46.480 So yeah, they want to get arrested until they find out that they're going to go to jail
00:23:51.560 for an extended period of time, and then they'll start sobbing, too.
00:23:54.720 The only problem is they don't fear getting arrested because like those two New York firebombing
00:23:59.600 attorneys who got a slap on the wrist or Kevin Kleinsmith, the lawyer who falsified, they
00:24:04.680 know that in the regime, because at the lower levels of the regime, it's still a lot of TDS
00:24:11.740 afflicted individuals who are going to let them off with a slap on the wrist or even compensate
00:24:15.280 them afterwards.
00:24:16.520 What has to happen is real, meaningful justice, where it will serve as a deterrent effect.
00:24:20.940 I think if Leticia James, the head of the Black Lives Matter, if they go to jail for fraud,
00:24:26.480 legit fraud, which I'm convinced is what's going on here, they won't be laughing anymore.
00:24:31.640 And if they go to jail for legit obstruction of police officers doing their business or criminal
00:24:37.120 trespass, they won't be laughing anymore, especially when they suffer the fallout consequences that
00:24:42.000 comes along with having a criminal record.
00:24:43.340 So, again, it's not a question of lying manufacturing evidence like they did against Trump.
00:24:48.200 It's just a question of scratching the surface, revealing it, and then unleashing the fury of
00:24:52.300 a legit, utilized legal system.
00:24:55.060 But I do wonder, because I agree, but I guess my point is, is the Trump administration just
00:25:01.380 saying, listen, we don't want to spend the limited hours we have with our staff going after
00:25:06.840 these people.
00:25:07.600 We want to spend the limited hours making sure that we get rid of voter fraud, sealing the
00:25:12.800 border, and winning.
00:25:15.420 Like, the mass deportations, I think, is not just about economics or Trump's promises.
00:25:21.540 I think Trump's kind of like, this is how they cheat elections.
00:25:24.520 They give themselves extra electoral college votes.
00:25:27.160 So I'm wondering if they're just saying, look, if we could do everything we could, we're going to
00:25:30.800 focus on what we can to win and then give ourselves 20 years of leeway to go after these people.
00:25:35.460 Well, I mean, yeah, they're doing a lot.
00:25:39.720 And so the question, you can always say they could be doing more, they could be focusing
00:25:42.740 here and not there.
00:25:45.700 Yeah, look, they're getting started on it.
00:25:48.560 Whether or not they don't have the resources or they don't want to dedicate the resources,
00:25:51.800 they've got endless resources.
00:25:54.020 So they should be going after the big targets.
00:25:55.740 But they should be going after the big, I say, spiritually or politically meaningful targets.
00:26:00.280 How much investigation would it require to find criminality with Adam Schiff?
00:26:05.140 Why hasn't he faced any sort of, I mean, he overtly lied to the American people.
00:26:10.540 Whether or not he should, he got censured for it.
00:26:12.700 How hard would it be?
00:26:13.540 Just these are people who have committed brazen open, at the very least dishonesty, at the
00:26:18.600 very worst, much, much worse.
00:26:20.380 Scratch the surface and look into these guys and make examples of the most prominent,
00:26:24.560 I would say, ideological terrorists on the left, Goldman, Schiff, Nadler, he might be
00:26:31.560 past his prime, Leticia James, Fannie Willis, Ingeron, Merchant, that Jenna Griswold.
00:26:36.920 I mean, this is where they should be going after, go after a dozen.
00:26:40.620 They've got resources, but pick a good dozen that are going to send political shockwaves
00:26:44.520 through the system so that even the Democrats are going to say, maybe we should just stop
00:26:48.520 being a bunch of hysterical babies and settle down a little.
00:26:51.660 I do want to add that, you know, when news broke that there was a criminal referral for
00:26:56.100 Leticia James, it was from William Pulte.
00:26:59.140 And I'm just sitting here thinking, like, of all of the people you'd expect to come out
00:27:04.620 with a fist on the table, slamming it, saying we are coming for the corruption.
00:27:09.080 No disrespect, but it's fascinating that William Pulte was the guy.
00:27:13.540 You know, he's Federal Housing Finance Administration, and he's like, Leticia James committed mortgage
00:27:19.040 fraud.
00:27:19.460 It appears she should be criminally charged.
00:27:21.660 They launch an investigation.
00:27:22.980 You'd think it'd start with, like, the DOJ, like, Cash Patel, Dan Bongino.
00:27:26.520 Cash Patel?
00:27:26.880 Yeah.
00:27:27.640 No, it's a housing guy.
00:27:29.580 The big names are the guys who are there to do it, which is why there's no shade on Cash
00:27:34.100 Patel.
00:27:34.400 I think he might be entering the house of skeletons and saying, Holy crap, it's worse than
00:27:38.160 I thought.
00:27:38.540 But when he comes out and says, Yeah, we got a custom border agent who committed fraud
00:27:43.260 for some, you know, home renovations.
00:27:45.800 Like, nobody cares about that.
00:27:47.840 Wait, did he do that?
00:27:49.220 Yeah, there was one person, they said, who recouped monies in compensation for damages
00:27:55.180 from a flood or something, and then she wasn't staying at a hotel.
00:27:58.120 Like, thousands of dollars of insurance fraud.
00:28:00.020 Who gives a sweet bugger all?
00:28:01.200 We want the Epstein files, we want, and we'll give them time.
00:28:06.220 We want the P. Diddy files, like, P. Diddy now.
00:28:09.140 We've got another case where there's Rico sex trafficking, and seemingly only one person
00:28:13.440 involved in it, P. Diddy.
00:28:14.940 Horse crap.
00:28:15.580 So, we know there's big targets out there.
00:28:17.660 They should start going after the big targets.
00:28:19.300 They're starting slowly.
00:28:20.380 Letitia James is a good start.
00:28:21.660 But there are so, so many others who deserve it, and who undoubtedly are guilty of it.
00:28:26.320 But fight fire with fire, but only within the realms of the bounds of the law.
00:28:32.020 Right on, man.
00:28:32.860 Well, Viva, I really do appreciate you joining me to have this conversation.
00:28:35.580 Where can people find you?
00:28:36.960 Viva Frye.
00:28:37.860 I'm going to be live on Rumble at 4 o'clock this afternoon.
00:28:40.540 Daily live shows at 4.
00:28:41.680 And then Sunday night, we have our Viva and Barnes Law Extravaganza at 6 o'clock.
00:28:46.240 And, no, Tim, one thing, the Democrats, just, you mentioned to me, I have now lived long
00:28:50.840 enough to appreciate the expression that liberalism is a mental disorder.
00:28:54.860 And when you're talking about people who don't mind going to jail, I genuinely believe it's
00:28:59.220 because the most prominent, vocal, and politically and financially rewarded of those people are
00:29:03.780 fundamentally mentally unwell.
00:29:05.860 And so, that's why they behave publicly the way that they do.
00:29:08.820 But at the lower levels, I think, you know, liberalism, progressivism, Democrats mean well,
00:29:15.700 but they have narcissist, pathological leaders that need to be made an example of politically
00:29:20.940 speaking people.
00:29:22.240 I agree.
00:29:22.580 Right on, man.
00:29:23.000 Well, I guess people will catch you at 4 p.m.
00:29:24.560 Thanks for hanging out.
00:29:25.600 Thank you for having me.
00:29:26.540 Have a good one, brother.
00:29:27.960 See ya.
00:29:28.980 That was the great Viva.
00:29:31.800 Really great to have him have that conversation.
00:29:34.940 And many people are calling for the pardoning of Derek Chauvin.
00:29:40.700 So, I completely agree with his view on this.
00:29:44.560 What will it accomplish for the Trump administration?
00:29:46.520 However, I'm going to say, I think, morally, and it should be done.
00:29:52.240 They just need to figure out how they make sure he's going to be taken care of.
00:29:55.560 Because like we already talked about, you pardon him, he just goes to state prison.
00:29:58.680 He's worse off.
00:30:00.020 All right.
00:30:00.200 We're going to send you all to Russell Brand.
00:30:02.160 Before we do, we'll grab some Rumble rants here.
00:30:05.980 Dom Kogan says, he didn't even call for his mother.
00:30:08.680 He was calling for his girlfriend, Mama.
00:30:10.360 Candace Owens exposed this on one of her interviews.
00:30:13.120 Correct.
00:30:14.040 Mama was the name of his girlfriend.
00:30:16.320 Pinochet says, Tim arguing with AI, ignoring the fact that AI will always possess the biases and ideology of its creators.
00:30:24.980 I know.
00:30:25.840 I am aware.
00:30:26.400 Yeah, yeah.
00:30:27.760 Dom McGowan says, Stephen Crowder has done one.
00:30:33.880 Is that what he's saying?
00:30:34.840 Kneeling on his neck for over nine minutes.
00:30:36.820 It's a good watch.
00:30:37.420 I remember that.
00:30:38.480 People got so mad at Crowder, they were like, how dare you do this stunt?
00:30:42.300 Because he actually had a guy kneel on his neck to show, you know.
00:30:45.120 So, let's see.
00:30:46.560 I think we should have Russell Brand.
00:30:49.440 Unless I'm mistaken.
00:30:50.980 Maybe he's, here we go.
00:30:52.380 Russell Brand is gearing up to go live.
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