The Culture War - Tim Pool - GOP SABOTAGE Trump Big Beautiful Bill, Republicans REFUSE To Approve Trump Spending Package ft. Rep. Thomas Massie

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00:00:15.020 My friends, Donald Trump may be blocked by all these judges, by all these courts.

00:00:21.620 Currently, his administration is dealing with a Supreme Court argument over universal injunctions

00:00:26.820 and birthright citizenship. But another key component as to whether or not he's going to

00:00:30.700 be able to get the job done is going to be his big, beautiful bill, they call it.

00:00:35.320 We got the story from NPR, the latest roadblock for House Republicans' big, beautiful bill,

00:00:41.580 Senate Republicans. Indeed. As House Speaker Mike Johnson feverishly works to finalize the

00:00:47.580 details of a massive package that includes major portions of Trump's agenda, many Senate Republicans

00:00:52.280 are dismissing the legislation before it even finished the House. Unfortunately, it's a sad

00:00:56.660 joke, said Senator Ron Johnson. Wimpy and anemic were the words used by Rand Paul.

00:01:02.960 The House package, which the Speaker says he wants to advance to the chamber before Memorial

00:01:07.420 Day recess, aims for $1.5 trillion spending cuts to offset the cost of making the 2017 Trump

00:01:14.640 tax cuts permanent. It also contains tax breaks that Trump campaigned on in 2024. No taxes on tips

00:01:21.900 and overtime, which I'm a big fan of. But those provisions are temporary. Some conservatives in

00:01:27.940 the House are pushing for $2 trillion in cuts. But that's not far enough for Johnson, who wants

00:01:32.280 spending levels to revert back to what they were pre-pandemic. Senator Johnson told reporters that he

00:01:37.480 believes it was a mistake for leaders to try to pass so much of Trump's agenda in one single bill,

00:01:42.280 instead of three separate pieces of legislation that could be considered individually. As a result,

00:01:46.700 he said he deposed the House bill as it's currently constructed. Now I'm going to tell you. I think

00:01:53.320 speaking with Rhett Massey is going to be enlightening, though he tends to be against many of these big

00:01:59.580 universal packages. The challenge I see. Look, my friends, I hate to say it, but I don't like these

00:02:06.760 universal bills. I don't like these big spending packages. We should be doing single item spending.

00:02:10.940 But for right now, we have an existential crisis. Is there room for Trump to just get this one through

00:02:16.200 so that he can enact his agenda and make sure we clear a runway so that we are able to win moving

00:02:23.040 forward? Now I'm going to be joined by Rep. Thomas Massey. Of course, we're big fans. I think he is

00:02:28.840 the we call him the best member of Congress that we got despite our disagreements. And let's see if

00:02:34.780 we can get him. Rep. Massey, can you hear me? I can hear you, Tim. How's it going? How you doing?

00:02:40.760 Well, you know, we had a four day weekend and now we've got a three day work week. They called off

00:02:45.820 votes tomorrow. So really, you know, first world congressional problems, I reckon.

00:02:51.660 Right. Yeah. So you guys, I shouldn't say you guys, but Congress, there's a video of them sleeping.

00:02:57.760 And to be fair, that was like an overnight hearing, though, wasn't it?

00:03:03.360 Yeah. Some of these hearings go really long. The Democrats are being very dilatory and offering

00:03:08.060 amendments just to drag it out.

00:03:09.820 So, you know, we've been talking about the Supreme Court hearing pertaining to birthright

00:03:15.480 citizenship as well as universal injunctions. The Trump administration has faced a ridiculous 0.67

00:03:21.880 amount of these universal injunctions. So it seems like while he's gotten a lot done as it pertains

00:03:26.260 to Doge and some of these other efforts, he's he's still facing roadblocks every which way. Now he wants

00:03:32.340 this big, beautiful spending package. Despite the fact that the MAGA base last year was saying no to these

00:03:39.220 big spending packages, I suppose my view is largely we need to we need to move as quickly as we can

00:03:45.480 before the midterm so that we can enact some of those agenda items that we want to see done from

00:03:50.360 the Trump administration. But I'm curious your thoughts. What's currently going on with this

00:03:55.000 big, big, beautiful bill and where do you stand on it? Well, I think that big, beautiful bill is is

00:04:00.260 in trouble a little bit. That's why you see the speaker letting us out of Congress a day early this

00:04:06.680 week. It's got problems. It's got warts. What would I do? Well, in an ideal world, I'd make it deficit

00:04:14.120 neutral. I wouldn't be adding to the deficit like this bill does. And in a pragmatic world, if you

00:04:20.660 want to get something done quickly, they probably need to skinny this thing down. And it's just got 1.00

00:04:26.860 too many things in it right now, too many things that are objectionable. And there's a lot of sort of

00:04:32.260 the shell games going on. A lot of the cuts are backloaded and won't happen until Trump leaves

00:04:40.240 office. And the problem with that is it looks real good on a 10-year window. But the reality is

00:04:47.160 that the lobbyists will have their way. They've got four years to make sure those cuts never actually

00:04:53.000 happen. And that's a problem. So let me give you an example, Tim. The Green New Deal, which was part of 0.78

00:05:01.500 the Inflation Reduction Act, that should be a no brainer. We should just repeal every part of that

00:05:07.300 root and branch. Right? Well, here's what they've done. They've decided to cut residential solar

00:05:15.620 subsidies. Okay. I'm not for any subsidies, but they've decided if you're a homeowner, those subsidies

00:05:21.420 are, they're called tax credits. Those tax credits go away. But if you're a corporation, they keep going

00:05:27.560 for at least four more years. And so the interesting thing is that sets up a scenario where solar will

00:05:34.580 still be subsidized, but instead of owning the panels on your house, that won't be financially

00:05:39.780 practical. They're pushing you into leasing them from a corporation or an installer.

00:05:45.360 Wow. The other thing that does is it gives

00:05:47.440 the corporations and companies four years to lobby to keep their subsidies going because their subsidies

00:05:54.200 won't end for four years. Let me tell you another thing in this bill. So no tax on tips, no tax on

00:06:00.520 social security, no tax on overtime. Well, I'm really interested in those. Two of those three are

00:06:07.080 bills that I introduced into Congress, no tax on tips and no tax on social security. I've been introducing

00:06:13.240 that bill for about a decade now, trying to get that passed. But the reality is those tax cuts aren't

00:06:21.320 exactly what they say. And those only last three years. So as soon as Trump leaves office, those

00:06:27.560 expire, those aren't permanent. And the reason they did that is they cost a lot of money. Now, I think the

00:06:34.360 most controversial tax cut provision in here, by the way, I haven't seen a tax cut I don't like, right? I love

00:06:42.520 all the tax cuts. Let's cut all the taxes, okay? Let's slash them. But we need to cut spending at the same

00:06:48.680 time. There is one tax cut in here that doesn't really make sense. And that is to raise the SALT

00:06:56.040 deduction, state and local tax deduction. It's a big deal to Republicans from blue states. And by the

00:07:04.520 way, there's no Senate appetite for this tax provision because you don't have senators from

00:07:09.960 blue states. They run statewide. There are no, I mean, you don't have Republican senators from blue states.

00:07:14.760 Right. That would be California and New York and Illinois, for instance. But you have Republicans

00:07:22.680 in the House from those states. There are some districts, believe it or not, that do lean Republican.

00:07:30.120 Those guys have been given the biggest gift ever. It's bad tax policy, and they're still not happy with

00:07:37.880 it. The state and local tax deduction in the big, beautiful bill, as it's written, would go from

00:07:42.840 $10,000. Let's say you've got a nice house and you pay $10,000 of taxes on it. Well, that lets you out

00:07:51.640 of $10,000 of federal tax. We can argue about whether you should get out of any federal tax just because

00:07:57.400 your local and state government is gouging you. But the Speaker has agreed to raise that to $30,000.

00:08:04.680 You have to have a pretty nice house to have $30,000 of tax on it. And the blue state Republicans

00:08:14.600 are not happy with that. They want more. And even though it would reduce the tax income coming into

00:08:21.000 the government, the federal government, which generally is not a bad thing, it means you've got

00:08:25.480 to take that from somewhere else. And so it's a gift to California and New York, and it shouldn't

00:08:31.560 be in there. So one thing I want to clarify too, for just, I understand most people know this,

00:08:37.640 but for those that don't, the deficit is, what is this? This perpetual overspending of our budget

00:08:44.680 forever, basically increasing the deficit. I've talked to a lot of people and they confuse debt

00:08:50.180 and deficit. And the deficit just means that I'm pretty sure it's, actually, maybe you can tell me

00:08:56.040 how long has it been that the US government consistently spends more than it brings in?

00:09:04.120 Well, you know, on April 15th, it depends on the time window you're looking at. On April 15th,

00:09:11.320 my debt counter actually went the other way because for a brief week, you pay, everybody pays their taxes.

00:09:18.040 I mean, it's encouraging and discouraging at the same time that my debt clock goes down for a week,

00:09:26.920 but that's the week everybody pays their taxes. But if you're looking for a one year period,

00:09:31.880 you'd have to go back to the nineties when Republicans who were actually conservative back then, I guess,

00:09:38.840 imposed some restraints on Bill Clinton. And they also put things like welfare reform and work

00:09:44.760 requirements. And guess what? If you look at the big, beautiful bill, there are Medicaid work

00:09:51.560 requirements for able-bodied individuals, but there are loopholes you could drive a truck through

00:09:56.280 and they don't kick in until Trump leaves office. In other words, they'll probably never happen.

00:10:02.840 And the loophole says that you don't really have to work as long as you're undergoing a training

00:10:07.720 program that your state approves of. Well, the state will have some, like California and New York,

00:10:13.720 they'll have some kind of $10 online training program that qualifies you for Medicaid, even if

00:10:18.920 you're able-bodied single individual with no kids. I'm assuming there's things in this that Trump

00:10:27.080 wants, but is he just basically willing to accept these concessions knowing they expire by the time

00:10:31.800 he leaves because he wants to get his agenda through? It could be. I think a lot of this,

00:10:37.640 he doesn't know. I think for instance, the example I gave you about the solar subsidies,

00:10:42.280 how we're cutting, there are no tax credits for homeowners, but the tax credits for corporations

00:10:47.240 continue. I doubt he is aware of those subtleties like that. He's probably putting a lot of faith

00:10:54.120 in Mike Johnson and John Thune and just saying, okay guys, whatever you got to do to get this done,

00:11:01.400 pay off the blue state New York Republicans and California Republicans, do what you got to do

00:11:07.160 and just get this bill passed. I think the problem is that Mike Johnson isn't being completely forthright

00:11:14.840 with the president. Maybe they can roll the Freedom Caucus at the end. I know there's a lot of grumbling

00:11:19.640 from some conservative Republican senators and from some conservative Republicans here in the House

00:11:24.840 who predominantly belong to the Freedom Caucus. Maybe they just plan to roll him at the end because

00:11:29.640 in addition to the tax cuts, this bill has spending increases, but it's the kind of spending that if

00:11:36.440 you don't spend the money, you could get in trouble in a Republican primary. The spending increases,

00:11:41.960 for instance, are for the military, another over $100 million for the military. You've got HHS,

00:11:49.560 border security. There's going to be over $50 billion there. And also for border security,

00:11:57.000 in the Judiciary Committee, you can have another $100 million of spending there.

00:12:02.040 And they'll say, if you're a Republican, they'll try to run an ad. Oh, by the way,

00:12:07.000 and the Golden Dome is in there. They'll run ads of an intercontinental ballistic missile hitting St.

00:12:13.960 Louis. He voted against protecting our country. He voted against enforcing the border. Those are the

00:12:21.320 kind of ads they'll run against you if you vote against that, but against a big, beautiful bill. But

00:12:26.360 you know what? Frankly, I don't care. I'm not going to stand here and lie to you. You cannot

00:12:32.840 have free cake and eat it too. It will catch up on us. Our bond ratings right now on a 10-year bond,

00:12:40.680 we're paying like 4.5%. That's going to go up. So not only are we over time, this gets to your

00:12:46.760 deficit question. Not only are we increasing the deficit, which is the annual shortfall in spending,

00:12:53.720 but we'll add to the debt another probably $25, $30 trillion over the next 10 years.

00:12:59.560 Right now it's $32 trillion. But one of the worst parts is we're paying a trillion dollars of interest

00:13:05.240 on the debt we already owe. And that number is going to go up because our bond rating will go down

00:13:11.320 when the foreign sovereign wealth funds take a look at our financials and see we're not serious.

00:13:17.720 Yeah. But I heard from AOC that we can just keep deficit spending to cover our costs. I mean,

00:13:22.520 why not?

00:13:24.360 Well, during COVID, they printed $5 trillion and people thought the $1,200 checks were such a great

00:13:31.800 deal. The problem is at the time I said, that's the cheese in the trap. Your cost of living has gone

00:13:37.880 way the hell up more than $1,200 or $600 or the $1,400 check.

00:13:43.320 That's crazy.

00:13:43.560 All those three checks added together don't equal

00:13:47.480 the AOC math, which was Republican math at the time in 2020 as well.

00:13:53.240 Yeah, I shouldn't rag on her for some of the Republicans did too. 0.91

00:13:55.800 No, but she was talking about healthcare spending a while back. And I think her quote was something

00:13:59.720 like, we can have universal healthcare if we just deficit spend every year to cover the full

00:14:04.360 costs of universal healthcare. And I think it's trillions of dollars, which means like three

00:14:10.520 years goes by and your $200 weekly groceries go up to $1,000 within a couple of years or some

00:14:15.320 ridiculous number. And then you've, yeah.

00:14:18.120 You know, the thing I would hope AOC would agree with is that we shouldn't let these hospital

00:14:25.080 oligarchs rake in the $20 million salaries and call them nonprofits. I think Trump has rightfully 1.00

00:14:33.480 identified some of these university endowments, but not everybody goes to Harvard. Okay. But almost

00:14:40.440 everybody goes to a hospital at some point, either for themselves or a loved one. And that's where,

00:14:46.200 even if you wanted to give everybody free healthcare, actually, most of that money is going to hospitals

00:14:53.160 and it's getting misappropriated. We need a full audit and we need really to do something

00:15:00.200 fundamentally different about reimbursements. So what's in this big, beautiful bill that Trump

00:15:05.880 so desperately wants? You mentioned some things. Yeah. So if we were just going to skinny it down

00:15:11.240 to the things that Trump really cares about, it would probably be a renewal of what's called the Tax

00:15:17.800 Cut and Jobs Act that was during his first term. You know, they made the tax cuts for corporations

00:15:24.760 permanent, but the tax cuts for individuals were not permanent. So you could renew those and you could

00:15:32.200 repeal the Green New Deal root and branch. And you could probably get pretty close to something 0.76

00:15:40.280 that I could vote for with a few other savings in their work requirements for able bodied individuals

00:15:47.080 without children on Medicaid, real work requirements, not ones with loopholes. You could pay for a renewal of the

00:15:54.200 tax cut and jobs act of Trump's first administration with just a few simple things that all Republicans

00:16:02.200 should agree with. And let's throw in the rescissions of USAID and PBS. So what's stopping this from happening?

00:16:11.000 I mean, Republicans control the house. Why is there this, I don't know, this breaking point?

00:16:16.200 You know, the blue state Republicans are driving the bus because their freedom caucus Republicans

00:16:24.360 won't say no. And the blue state Republicans are willing to take this thing down if they don't get

00:16:30.840 their SALT handout, state and local tax deduction handout, which would be a reversal of Trump's policy,

00:16:37.400 by the way. One of the great things about the Tax Cut and Jobs Act of Trump's first term is he got

00:16:43.240 rid of this ridiculous notion that if you're from New York, you should pay less of a percent of your

00:16:48.280 salary for national defense than somebody from Kentucky, just because your property taxes are

00:16:53.720 higher. That was, you know, getting rid of that and having some sanity, having actual conservative

00:17:01.560 tax policy was part of Trump's original Tax Cut and Jobs Act. And so they shouldn't water that down now.

00:17:07.400 But to your answer, why aren't we doing that? Because I don't the Freedom Caucus Republicans,

00:17:13.800 a lot of them aren't willing to say no, although they might be this time around.

00:17:17.560 Man, I'm I'm particularly worried about where we're going. I had a conversation. We did a debate

00:17:23.880 show a couple weeks ago. We aired it last week. And with Trump trying to push through his agenda

00:17:30.120 and using every interpretation of any law that he can say, like the Alien Enemies Act,

00:17:34.280 and then this wave of universal injunctions, you've basically got an immovable object and an

00:17:40.440 unstoppable force and then Congress sitting in the bleachers eating popcorn, not doing anything.

00:17:45.160 So it's yeah, it's there's been a judicial coup, right? There's 677 federal district judges,

00:17:51.960 any one of which could issue a nationwide injunction. So it's like a field of landmines with 677 landmines

00:17:59.640 every time he tries to do something. Eventually that fixes itself because it does go to the Supreme

00:18:04.840 Court and and Trump will win a lot of those. But they're robbing him as his most precious resource,

00:18:10.920 which is time. When you get a mandate in an election, every day that goes by the mandate weakens.

00:18:17.800 And so they're robbing him of time in the courts. But Speaker Johnson's robbing him of time here in

00:18:23.640 the House as well. We have not consummated any of the doge cuts. We were supposed to have voted on

00:18:31.000 this before. And they just mysteriously didn't schedule the vote. And the Speaker's press secretary

00:18:37.160 said, oh, no, we're going to do it when I called him on it. And that begs the question, when are you

00:18:41.720 going to do it? Because here we are this week. Don't tell me we don't have time to do it. They just

00:18:45.800 called off votes tomorrow. They're going to send us. We just had a four day weekend. This was supposed to

00:18:50.840 be regular American two day weekend coming up. Wow. But now they're going to give us a three day

00:18:55.160 weekend. Do not tell me we don't have enough time. Well, you're making it sound like it's a good job

00:18:59.800 to have being in Congress. A four day weekend, three day weekend. What am I doing? I'm working

00:19:03.880 double shifts. You're a fool, Tim. But somebody's got to pay our salary. I guess, right? Man, I'm 1.00

00:19:13.160 feeling disappointed. Was this expected of Speaker Johnson that he was going to run the ship this way?

00:19:18.840 Well, you know, he promised to support Trump's agenda. He basically his campaign for speaker

00:19:25.720 was that he would carry Trump's water and he put it in neutral. And the problem with putting it in

00:19:32.280 neutral is you actually have to fight for the conservative portions of Trump's agenda here in

00:19:38.360 the House. You can't just let the courts run over the president. The problem is the courts in some

00:19:44.360 cases have a point. For instance, an appropriations bill is a law. A lot of people don't realize this,

00:19:51.080 but it passes the House and the Senate and is signed by the president. So when you appropriate

00:19:55.880 money for USAID, which they did in the continuing resolution and appropriate money for NPR and PBS,

00:20:04.200 the president has signed that into law. It's not clear that he can then decide not to follow a law that

00:20:10.360 he has signed. And so that's where rescissions come in. There is a pathway in Congress that requires

00:20:16.680 only 51 votes in the Senate to consummate some of those cuts that Doge wants to do and that the

00:20:22.040 president is trying to do that the courts are tying him up. It gives us our Trump card and we're not

00:20:27.080 playing it. You know, I'm just thinking about how there are a lot of members of Congress.

00:20:32.520 We rarely hear the direct the the direct honesty or that, you know, it just it just feels like they're

00:20:41.000 they're just agenda driven. And I'm just wondering, is there something in the water in your district or

00:20:45.960 is there something missing from the water that your constituents have elected a guy who's being honest

00:20:50.520 and consistently? Why? Why? It's a joke. But why can't we get this from everybody else?

00:20:56.360 It's not in the water. It's in my bloodstream. I have the Trump antibodies. I was from a natural

00:21:03.000 infection in 2020 when I opposed the CARES Act and he attacked me. And then I got 81% of the vote in

00:21:09.640 a primary because my voters appreciated me being the only one up here who was willing to say,

00:21:16.040 if you print $5 trillion and you do these $2 trillion stimulus packages, you're going to pay for

00:21:22.440 it sooner or later. My constituents appreciated that. And Trump eventually came around and

00:21:27.640 endorsed me in the next election. But now I'm on his bad side again. So I guess I'm getting a booster

00:21:32.200 of the antibodies or this or it could be a fatal, you know, condition this time. It doesn't matter to

00:21:38.360 me like life's too short to come up here and and tell people we can cut your taxes and increase

00:21:44.440 spending and everything's going to turn out all right because it's not. You're going to pay for

00:21:48.840 it through inflation and a lower standard of living.

00:21:50.920 It sounds to me like if every member of Congress, every sure, but at least the Republicans were

00:21:58.760 being honest and actually cared to get the job done, they'd be largely agreeing with what you're

00:22:04.920 saying. They pushed through a bill that made sense. Donald Trump would be very happy. Instead,

00:22:10.600 it sounds like Trump knows he's not going to get a fair shake through Congress. So he wants whatever

00:22:15.720 he can get. And then he gets upset with you because you're demanding a fair shake from Congress.

00:22:20.520 Yeah. I mean, it's fair. I can see his frustration. I just wish he would see who's on his side.

00:22:27.160 I mean, like I said before, I'm the one who's carried the bill, no tax on social security for

00:22:32.200 over a decade and introduced a bill to not tax tips. And I want the rescissions that voted on.

00:22:41.480 Like right now, I'm here calling out to speak or have this vote, quit sending his home tomorrow.

00:22:46.600 And I think he's just frustrated and rightfully so. Congress is a bunch of do nothing people who

00:22:54.360 are disingenuous and not rigorous and are always worried about their next reelection. Don't get me

00:23:01.960 wrong. I have a lot of allies here who think exactly like I am thinking right now. It's just when it comes

00:23:09.400 time to vote. They can't say no. And until you can say no, there's no negotiation. If you say,

00:23:16.680 I don't like this, but I'm, but I'll probably vote for it anyway, then you're not going to get anything.

00:23:22.040 You're not going to get the fixes. Why, why, why do you think Speaker Johnson has been doing what

00:23:29.240 he's doing? And I, and I suppose to clarify, it's just, it seems like everything's kind of half-assed.

00:23:33.320 Well, I mean, it is half-assed. If you're trying to get an argument out of me on that, you're not

00:23:42.840 going to get one. But why? The American way? 0.79

00:23:47.560 Frankly, he's, he's a lost ball in tall weeds. He fell into this job. If you had somebody like Jim

00:23:55.560 Jordan, who knows you have to fight every day, instead of just putting it in neutral, then we

00:24:01.480 wouldn't be in this situation. But we didn't, we didn't get a Jim Jordan because the swamp back

00:24:07.640 when Kevin McCarthy was ejected, the swamp fought tooth and nail to keep Jim Jordan from ascending

00:24:13.800 to speaker when in fact, it should have been him. And we wouldn't have these problems.

00:24:18.680 I think though, that Mike Johnson is going to be the speaker. You know, your next question may be,

00:24:23.960 well, why don't you have a motion to vacate or something like that? Well, Marjorie and I tried

00:24:28.920 that a year ago before the elections. And because we saw that once, once the elections happened,

00:24:35.240 if we got the majority, it was going to be kumbaya and people would just be happy to rubber stamp 0.73

00:24:40.920 another term for Mike Johnson. But the reason we're not going to have a motion to vacate is Speaker

00:24:47.080 Johnson is the speaker until Trump gets frustrated with him. And I don't know if and when that will

00:24:52.440 happen, but I think at some point it should, because I just don't think Johnson's going to get this

00:24:58.040 across the line, even the crappy bill, much less a good one. It seemed like when McCarthy got ousted,

00:25:05.080 the popular base for Trump was very much pro Jim Jordan. How does the swamp intervene to prevent

00:25:12.440 something like that happening? What can they do? Or what did they do? Well, there were 30 Republicans

00:25:17.800 that were just ready to lose their next election. Wow. And they just kept voting against Jim Jordan

00:25:25.160 every round. And it's because they're the big spenders. They knew, the swamp knew that he was a

00:25:31.480 change agent. And so they just sort of like an organism with white blood cells, they attacked him

00:25:40.120 and they didn't care if it was going to cost them their next election. And it did cost some of them

00:25:44.040 their reelections. Wow. And some of them were going to retire anyway, but there are a few here.

00:25:49.640 And I blame them. They bear the responsibility for this country going in the wrong direction and for

00:25:56.680 for the elements of Trump's agenda that are conservative, not happening.

00:26:01.000 So this swamp though, is this like the NRCC? Is this like the behind the scenes donors,

00:26:06.280 the lobbyists basically telling these Republicans, you won't get a penny, you'll get no donations,

00:26:11.320 we'll cut you off unless you do what we want?

00:26:13.240 Part of it's that. I mean, they're good people at the NRCC and their goal is to keep us in the

00:26:19.800 majority. So I don't want to completely trash the NRCC, but the speaker uses the NRCC as a tool,

00:26:28.360 like you just mentioned. And the lobbyists, they like a one-stop shopping place where all they got

00:26:34.360 to do is lobby the speaker and get him to agree to something because he controls what goes on the floor.

00:26:41.240 And then he can control membership, although I think it's sort of the other way around. I think

00:26:48.680 these members in vulnerable districts are controlling the agenda. Sometimes with a stronger

00:26:54.920 speaker, you have the speaker controlling the members who are reliant on the NRCC and need another

00:27:01.320 $20 million to get reelected in a marginal district. But that doesn't seem to be happening this time.

00:27:07.320 It seems like they're driving the agenda because we have a weaker speaker now.

00:27:11.320 Yeah. You know, my final question is we've got a couple of minutes left. When Al Green was getting

00:27:16.760 censured, Speaker Johnson calls him to face censure. Instead, Green starts singing and is joined by a

00:27:24.600 bunch of Democrats who are obstructing the hall just singing. So Speaker Johnson just adjourns.

00:27:29.720 And perhaps I'm a little aggressive in saying he should have the sergeant at arms come in and start

00:27:35.320 arresting and removing people. But why is it that Democrats seem so ready to make moves like that?

00:27:39.960 Republicans don't. They just let Democrats run roughshod all over them. 0.93

00:27:44.360 Because there's a double standard. Look, when we had a mask mandate in the House, I went to the

00:27:49.240 well of the floor without a mask and brought 10 members with me and stood there on C-SPAN without a mask.

00:27:57.080 And they fined me. They took it out of my salary.

00:28:01.000 Wow.

00:28:01.560 And I sued Nancy Pelosi over that. Took it all the way to Supreme Court.

00:28:07.080 But the Supreme Court wouldn't hear it for better or worse. They didn't want to intervene in congressional

00:28:13.160 rules. And that may actually, there's a silver lining to their decision that they don't get involved

00:28:20.120 because that would be a whole nother can of worms. But as somebody who has been fined for behavior on

00:28:27.240 the floor of the House and had my salary reduced, I can tell you there's a double standard. And the ethics

00:28:34.760 committee didn't overturn Pelosi's ruling against me. And so, but there is, there's definitely a double

00:28:41.640 standard. I don't know. Listen, Tim, I don't know why Speaker Johnson is putting Democrat bills on

00:28:46.680 the floor every week, every freaking day. There's, there's one or two Democrat bills that come to the

00:28:52.680 floor. What is the deal that is being cut? Yesterday, Debbie Washington Schultz, former chair of the DNC,

00:28:59.160 got a bill to the floor. Why, why is he bringing those bills to the floor and not bringing the

00:29:05.160 rescissions to the floor? What deal is the uniparty cutting? I'd just like to know what the deal was.

00:29:10.680 Yeah. Deep state deal saying we won't put you in prison after this is all over,

00:29:15.880 like we did to Trump's lawyers or whoever else, maybe. I mean, it's crazy what we've seen over

00:29:20.120 the past few years, but yeah, it certainly seems like we're not getting, we need through Congress,

00:29:25.880 but Rep Massey, I do appreciate you joining me. Is there anything else you wanted to add before we

00:29:30.280 wrap up? Well, I would just say there's a deep state, but there's always, there's also a deep

00:29:35.080 Congress that I have encountered. It's so I'm here fighting the deep Congress.

00:29:40.520 Oh man. Where can people find you? Find me at, uh, at Rep Thomas Massey on X. I do my own social

00:29:47.640 media. Uh, I'd fire my staff if they put half of what I put on there. Uh, the first thing they tell

00:29:53.720 you is don't argue with idiots, but you'll see me doing it every day on Twitter. It's working out. 1.00

00:29:58.280 Now known as X. Uh, and look for the hashtag sassy with Massey.

00:30:03.800 Right on, man. I really do appreciate you joining me and, and, and breaking this down for us. Uh,

00:30:07.240 so thanks for, thanks for joining us. All right. Thanks, Tim. Take care.

00:30:12.440 And that was representative Thomas Massey, who is, uh, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's the best. He's

00:30:18.360 the best member of Congress. We got, uh, love him or hate him. Sometimes he does things that,

00:30:23.240 uh, it will aggravate us, but he's always honest about it. And you know,

00:30:28.360 you know, the thing about it, you can predict how he's going to, how he's going to vote because

00:30:33.000 you know who he is. And I'll be honest with you. And there have been instances where,

00:30:38.200 you know, my attitude is more so, yes, we're not getting the perfect, uh, legislation we need

00:30:44.840 for Donald Trump. Let's get through what he's asking for now so we can accomplish what we can.

00:30:49.720 But it is fascinating when you listen to the guy and he breaks down for you,

00:30:53.400 that Speaker Johnson is putting Democrat bills on the floor so that the issue is never really

00:30:58.520 Thomas Massey. I think that, you know, when we're hoping for some kind of compromise to

00:31:04.200 get Trump what he needs, it's usually Thomas Massey doing the right thing and us accepting

00:31:09.720 that we're going to be working with bad people who want bad things to try and just get a win

00:31:12.920 through. So I have tremendous respect for the guy. And I wish every other member of Congress

00:31:17.480 was like him because then it'd be clean. We'd be done. I wish he was Speaker. But for now,

00:31:22.360 we'll just keep getting Democrat bills, which is particularly disheartening.

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00:31:53.560 And I really do appreciate everybody tuning in, hanging out. Maybe I can squeeze in. I did the

00:31:58.840 raid. Maybe there's a Rumble rant I can grab. Guido says, the Native American Act of 1924 gave

00:32:04.820 Native American citizenship. The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868. And that clarifies things.

00:32:10.520 Some of the 14th did not include some of some things. The 14th did not include everyone born here.

00:32:15.740 Indeed. Firehazard says, Thomas Massey for speaker. Hear, hear. You know, they would never let that

00:32:24.280 happen. So shout out to Rep Massey. Great dude. Big fan. And we'll wrap it up there, my friends.

00:32:30.940 Again, we're back at 8 PM. Rumble.com slash TimCast IRL. It's going to be a lot of fun. Let me see.

00:32:35.940 Let me see if I can look at our guests and see what we got. Oh, very interesting. We're going to have

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - May 15, 2025

GOP SABOTAGE Trump Big Beautiful Bill, Republicans REFUSE To Approve Trump Spending Package ft. Rep. Thomas Massie

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