The Culture War - Tim Pool - Has Feminism Destroyed The West？ Myron Gaines vs Kat Timpf w⧸ Alex Stein & Tim Pool

00:00:00.000 We got an important question for everybody.

00:00:01.580 Has feminism destroyed the West?

00:00:04.200 Oh, everybody's saying yes.

00:00:06.840 This is the question that must be answered today.

00:00:09.540 We have this amazing panel.

00:00:10.420 Why don't we start from the right?

00:00:11.400 Introduce yourself, good sir.

00:00:13.540 Me?

00:00:14.020 Yes.

00:00:14.440 Oh, Myron Gaines.

00:00:15.380 I didn't know someone else was coming, but yeah.

00:00:17.180 Myron Gaines, chilling.

00:00:18.620 Who are you?

00:00:19.000 What do you do?

00:00:19.740 One half of the Pressure It Podcast.

00:00:21.260 I also do my own show called The Debrief,

00:00:23.280 where we make fun of women, Jews, and black people.

00:00:27.260 So it's great.

00:00:28.420 I told you.

00:00:28.860 Yeah.

00:00:30.000 I asked Kyla before the show started,

00:00:32.140 how long until we heard the word Jews?

00:00:34.160 Right away.

00:00:34.800 30 seconds.

00:00:35.700 30 seconds.

00:00:37.320 And Myron and I will both be going to Israel

00:00:39.100 to touch the wall after this podcast.

00:00:41.200 Well, they're going to kill me.

00:00:42.460 So thank you, guys.

00:00:43.500 I'm primetime Alex Stein, Pim on a blimp,

00:00:45.240 and I believe in amnesty for all big booty Latinas.

00:00:47.660 Who agrees?

00:00:48.220 Yes.

00:00:48.940 Big booty Latinas!

00:00:51.120 Yeah.

00:00:51.840 Big booty Latinas!

00:00:53.380 Tell you.

00:00:54.660 Yeah.

00:00:55.200 Me?

00:00:55.560 Yeah.

00:00:55.960 Hi, guys.

00:00:56.420 My name is NotSoAeradates.

00:00:57.760 I'm the dirty liberal on the panel today,

00:01:00.160 so you guys will love me.

00:01:01.500 Ooh.

00:01:01.920 I like that.

00:01:02.700 My name is Kat Timpf, and I am the co-host of Gottfeld.

00:01:09.800 Yes, I have a job, and I'm also a mother.

00:01:13.420 Yeah!

00:01:13.840 Of course, I'm your host, Tim Poole, along with co-host Alex Stein.

00:01:20.460 Let's go!

00:01:21.460 Let's ask this question right off the bat.

00:01:23.900 It's a heavy question.

00:01:25.580 Has feminism destroyed the West?

00:01:27.840 I mean, one could argue, if they're holding the opinion,

00:01:30.400 it is destroying, but really destroyed?

00:01:32.600 Past tense?

00:01:33.160 What do you think, Myron?

00:01:34.880 Well, it depends on in which way you want to go.

00:01:37.300 If you want to talk about destroying the family,

00:01:39.300 the dating marketplace, the way women view men in general,

00:01:41.980 there are so many different problems that have come from feminism,

00:01:45.520 and it's a multi-pronged issue, depending on whichever text you want to go.

00:01:49.000 All right, name one.

00:01:50.240 I mean, we can start with dating, right?

00:01:51.340 So these bitches are too entitled, if I'm going to be honest.

00:01:54.700 You know, their expectations are far too high for what they bring to the table.

00:01:58.080 They're fairly delusional, thanks to, you know, social media, dating apps, etc.,

00:02:01.980 where, you know, simps are blowing smoke up their ass all the time.

00:02:04.640 And what's happened is women have a very unrealistic standard

00:02:08.240 on what they think they deserve versus what's out there.

00:02:10.160 And if they do find that guy, they think that that guy should kind of bend to their women.

00:02:13.640 The reality is it doesn't work that way.

00:02:15.120 Wait, actually, I want to have just one thing I want to give a little pushback, though.

00:02:18.380 Myron, and you do talk about this a lot.

00:02:19.640 We talk about the 304s, the hoes.

00:02:22.220 Yes.

00:02:22.900 So if these girls are being extra picky, kind of like you're saying,

00:02:27.240 then why are they also hoes at the same time?

00:02:29.460 Ah, good question.

00:02:30.060 You see what I'm saying?

00:02:30.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:31.180 Because a lot of them are hoes.

00:02:32.060 So when I say that they're hoes, what I mean is in they have promiscuous type behavior.

00:02:35.920 I mean, they're still, you know, having sex with a smaller portion of the men,

00:02:39.500 but they're still getting a high body count because there's a lot of these guys.

00:02:41.880 So what ends up happening is a lot of girls end up being Eskimo sisters with a lot of other women

00:02:45.720 because they're all smashing the same, you know, minority of men.

00:02:49.840 You know, and this gets, especially like in major cities, like in Miami, for example, right?

00:02:53.740 Like the girls that are going out and doing things and whatever,

00:02:57.480 they're hooking up with the same small percentage of guys all the time.

00:03:00.360 I've never thought about that, right?

00:03:01.840 I mean, obviously that's a hyper, you know, analyzed portion of it.

00:03:04.760 But in general, you know.

00:03:06.320 Well, as the women, do women have too high of expectations for men and are they hoes?

00:03:13.380 If they are, who cares, I would say.

00:03:15.900 I would say no.

00:03:16.920 I would say I enjoy being a member of society.

00:03:21.780 I like being able to vote.

00:03:23.680 I like being able to have a bank account.

00:03:25.760 And it's so crazy that I'm also a mother at the same time with a husband who loves me

00:03:31.660 and is able to handle the fact that I'm my own person.

00:03:35.640 Well, I think Kat makes actually a good point though, Myron.

00:03:37.680 Like, is it that bad if a girl has a job and a college education?

00:03:40.880 Like, you know, a driven woman, let's say she's driven to do more than just be a mom.

00:03:44.440 Like, why is that demonized, I guess, in your opinion?

00:03:46.740 Well, look, I don't have a problem with women, you know, aspiring to go to school and everything else like that.

00:03:51.500 My thing is I think we just need to be honest with them.

00:03:53.320 If you're going to go ahead and pursue a career and higher education,

00:03:57.080 your chances of finding a man are going to drop off precipitously

00:03:59.440 because your standards go up as you increase your income, your status,

00:04:03.560 because women are hypergamous.

00:04:04.740 They're not like us.

00:04:05.480 When we get status in money, you know, our standards stay fairly the same

00:04:09.160 or we just want a hotter girl.

00:04:10.460 When women increase their status, they want a guy on their level financially, mentally, et cetera.

00:04:14.620 So we just need to be honest with women is the more success you become,

00:04:17.940 the likelihood of you finding a guy drop off.

00:04:19.960 That was not the case for me.

00:04:22.680 I'm actually more successful than you are, Myron.

00:04:25.960 Oh, wow.

00:04:27.300 Shots fired.

00:04:28.940 Well, to be fair.

00:04:30.340 And I have a baby.

00:04:31.240 Do you have a baby?

00:04:34.960 You know what's funny to me?

00:04:36.740 I looked around.

00:04:37.460 I didn't see a stove, so I don't know why this woman's here not talking.

00:04:40.620 I don't make dinner.

00:04:43.240 I make money.

00:04:43.980 This is not a kitchen.

00:04:45.480 This is not a kitchen somehow.

00:04:47.720 Some woman is talking.

00:04:48.600 I don't know if this isn't a kitchen, but she's talking.

00:04:50.640 I got an important point for you, Myron.

00:04:52.540 Yeah.

00:04:52.920 All that matters in the end is in 20, 30 years, she's already got a genetic leg up with having

00:04:57.580 a kid.

00:04:58.380 If you don't have a kid, your line ends.

00:05:00.100 Where's your kid at?

00:05:00.940 Oh, well, I'll have one eventually.

00:05:02.200 I'm just going to try.

00:05:02.880 I'm trying to pick out my four wives first.

00:05:04.200 You know what I mean?

00:05:04.960 So I'm picking that up.

00:05:06.860 There's another woman here, though.

00:05:08.300 You know, I don't know.

00:05:09.120 Do you consider yourself conservative or liberal or?

00:05:11.040 I mean, I consider myself my own person.

00:05:14.200 I'm independent.

00:05:15.480 All right.

00:05:15.720 Well, the self about liberal.

00:05:18.200 What say you?

00:05:19.380 What say I?

00:05:21.080 I say, okay, the two questions, are women's standards increasing?

00:05:24.460 Yeah, I would say, by and large, women's standards are increasing as they get access to work and

00:05:28.000 education.

00:05:28.960 The issue is that they're not really staying single.

00:05:31.580 Most of the Pew research shows that women are dating and dating successfully.

00:05:34.580 The real question that I think is actually at the heart of all this is, like, are people

00:05:38.100 happy?

00:05:38.580 Are people finding meaningful relationships?

00:05:40.980 And, like, in what ways is society, like, happening and harming them or benefiting them?

00:05:46.180 I think those are the important questions.

00:05:47.740 They're not having relationships.

00:05:49.380 Isn't loneliness up?

00:05:50.780 Isn't loneliness up, Tim?

00:05:52.140 Oh, dude.

00:05:52.880 Dating is down.

00:05:53.940 Loneliness is up.

00:05:54.660 There was that graph that went viral that, like, people are basically becoming needs, men

00:05:59.320 and women.

00:06:00.080 They're less conscientious.

00:06:01.340 They're more neurotic.

00:06:02.600 They're less agreeable.

00:06:03.480 They're isolating themselves.

00:06:05.800 I don't know if that's a product of feminism, but what I can say is right now the current

00:06:08.520 system is not conducive to happy relationships between either men and women.

00:06:11.740 I actually agree.

00:06:12.420 I think that, like, the way that our society has oriented itself, where it's, like, obsession

00:06:15.920 over money and working and, like, the betrayal of, like, family and connection relationship

00:06:20.540 is harming everyone.

00:06:22.300 I don't think that this is a unique, like, woman problem or man problem.

00:06:25.280 When we're talking about, like, the loneliness epidemic, it's mostly a male-skewed issue,

00:06:29.580 right?

00:06:30.280 Like, men, in the peer research, men between the ages of, like, 18 to 25, 60, like, 1%

00:06:35.700 of them, I think, hadn't even dated before, whereas I think it was only, like, 30% of

00:06:39.140 young women.

00:06:39.760 Doesn't that prove Myron's point?

00:06:41.740 Sort of.

00:06:42.300 I mean...

00:06:42.640 These women are dating, but the men are not.

00:06:43.820 That means the women are dating all the same guys.

00:06:46.140 Well, no, they're not.

00:06:47.800 Like, most of these women are in monogamous relationships, right?

00:06:50.300 The issue is actually the 20-year-olds are dating, like, men that are typically, like,

00:06:54.760 four to five years older than them.

00:06:56.160 That's actually more so what we're seeing.

00:06:57.400 So let's just break it down for a minute, my misunderstanding, then, because it sounds

00:07:00.920 like I might be misunderstanding.

00:07:02.940 Most...

00:07:03.620 What was the number?

00:07:04.480 Most women have found in relationships?

00:07:06.560 30% of women have dated between the ages of 18 and 25, whereas 61% of men have not dated.

00:07:11.760 Right, okay.

00:07:12.320 So that's the same number, isn't it?

00:07:14.960 Sorry, I'm not understanding.

00:07:17.680 That means 30% of men have dated and 30% of women have dated.

00:07:20.280 No, 61% of men between the ages of 18 to 25 have not had a relationship.

00:07:24.720 So that means 30% of men have dated.

00:07:26.220 So that means 30% of men have had a relationship.

00:07:29.660 Sorry, did I mess up?

00:07:31.240 Did I miss you?

00:07:32.280 You're saying both.

00:07:33.000 30% of women have not dated.

00:07:35.660 Have not dated.

00:07:36.420 Okay, have not dated.

00:07:37.020 Sorry, yeah.

00:07:37.560 So if it's two to one, men not dating, but women are dating, then the women would have

00:07:44.420 to be dating the same guys.

00:07:45.100 Well, between that age...

00:07:45.780 Well, no, no.

00:07:46.380 No, no, no.

00:07:46.760 That's the age bracket.

00:07:47.900 18 to 25 is one of the key things that's going on.

00:07:49.620 Right, right, right.

00:07:50.020 So women are dating older men.

00:07:52.560 Oh, I see, I see, I see.

00:07:53.680 That's what's making up the gap.

00:07:55.020 I think everyone agrees with that, right?

00:07:56.740 Yeah.

00:07:57.220 I mean, the reality is, you know, average women don't want average men.

00:08:00.440 They date up.

00:08:01.040 And now with, you know, the way we have society, hypergamy is not only reinforced, but it's encouraged.

00:08:06.040 You know, women are told to not settle.

00:08:08.080 They're told to get the best man that they can get.

00:08:10.060 So a lot of girls think that they qualify for something a lot of times, which they actually

00:08:13.320 don't.

00:08:14.240 And sometimes that have to be the reality and let them know, like, look, you're average.

00:08:17.020 You've got to be, you know, a little bit more realistic about where you stand.

00:08:19.720 This isn't really hypergamy, though.

00:08:20.360 But average women don't want average men.

00:08:21.740 This isn't really hypergamy, though, right?

00:08:23.020 Like, what are men typically selecting for in a relationship?

00:08:25.200 Youthfulness, beauty, right?

00:08:26.320 Some level of, like, making him feel good.

00:08:27.800 What are women selecting for?

00:08:28.820 Stability factors.

00:08:29.580 And so in this way, women are dating the pool of men that give them the stability factors because

00:08:34.740 it usually takes men a couple of years to get education and a career and, like, something

00:08:37.840 built underneath them.

00:08:38.800 And men are selecting for the things that they want, which is young and beauty.

00:08:41.040 It's not just stability anymore, is what I'm trying to say.

00:08:42.820 It's not just stability.

00:08:43.760 What do you mean?

00:08:43.960 It's also, is the guy handsome?

00:08:45.300 Is he tall?

00:08:45.740 Is he charming?

00:08:46.160 Is he charismatic?

00:08:47.220 Like, since women make their own money, they're able to be a bit more selective because

00:08:51.180 they don't just need the provisioning anymore.

00:08:52.820 They just, they want other things as well.

00:08:54.460 Is he handsome?

00:08:55.160 How does he look?

00:08:55.920 Et cetera.

00:08:56.160 So women do have a staked interest now in how a man looks and how he conveys himself

00:09:00.020 as well since they handle the provisioning part themselves.

00:09:02.740 So it's made women more selective, but that's kind of come at their dismay because now it's

00:09:06.160 harder to find that guy that has the total package with everything.

00:09:09.160 Sure.

00:09:09.720 The issue is that, like, the actual problem here is that we're leaving men behind.

00:09:13.420 The issue isn't that we're, like, raising women up.

00:09:15.280 It's that men are disproportionately being, like, undereducated in school.

00:09:19.320 Primary school is horrible for young boys.

00:09:21.340 We're not giving them social scripts on how to exist.

00:09:23.320 And we're still telling young men that their only value is the amount that they can contribute

00:09:27.620 to the GDP, when in the reality is that, like, what women are looking for is men that,

00:09:31.320 like, make them feel valuable, men that they can emotionally connect to.

00:09:34.220 And so, like, the real issue here isn't that we're raising women up.

00:09:37.660 It's that we're leaving men behind, which I'm actually very interested in.

00:09:40.440 Well, I want to make this one point, though.

00:09:41.780 You know, I think men are a victim of what their surroundings because, you know, the amount

00:09:47.740 of men that have microplastics in their testicles now, seriously, you know, now the

00:09:51.660 amount of estrogen in men.

00:09:52.680 We're getting some right now.

00:09:53.620 Exactly.

00:09:54.100 So I'm saying, don't we think men now have higher estrogen levels than ever in recorded

00:09:59.580 history?

00:09:59.920 Yeah.

00:10:00.080 So I feel like that is kind of why the men are, I guess, you know, coming in second

00:10:04.240 place if we talk about men.

00:10:05.100 Well, there's a multitude of problems.

00:10:05.840 It's a problem for everyone.

00:10:06.920 I'm only 36 and I've already had cancer.

00:10:09.580 Yeah.

00:10:09.660 Jeez.

00:10:10.280 Yeah.

00:10:10.620 This is a serious thing.

00:10:11.840 I know.

00:10:12.420 It's serious.

00:10:13.120 Yeah.

00:10:13.540 There's some fire metal shit going on.

00:10:15.220 And who's in good shape, Kat?

00:10:16.520 Like, you've never been fat or gross?

00:10:18.100 No, not to brag, but I've never been fat.

00:10:20.800 Yeah.

00:10:21.060 I mean, but that does have, you know, like they say the fatter you are, the more likely

00:10:24.940 you are to get cancer.

00:10:25.780 So I'm just saying there's a lot of toxins in our water, in our food that are making men,

00:10:29.960 you know, less masculine and less aggressive.

00:10:32.200 I want to, maybe I'm just jumping the gun, but I was just thinking about, if we want to

00:10:36.400 go into dating stuff, I think maybe we'll come back to it.

00:10:38.340 But, and the question of feminism, the one thing that I really, really fizzes me off, women

00:10:44.200 won the right to vote without civic responsibility.

00:10:47.480 And so, you can make the argument, I think it's fine to say women should have the right

00:10:53.780 to vote.

00:10:54.480 However, we got to look at the context of the United States and that's women do not

00:10:57.700 have an obligation to die in war that men do, but women can vote overwhelmingly for Democrats

00:11:02.200 promoting these wars.

00:11:03.580 And then men are left on the hook for a war they tend not to vote for.

00:11:07.120 That's fucked up.

00:11:08.680 So, sure.

00:11:10.680 I'm glad we're on this topic.

00:11:11.980 Repeal the 19th.

00:11:12.700 I was going to say that earlier when she was yapping, but that's fine.

00:11:15.220 Yeah, repeal the 19th.

00:11:15.980 I think only landowners should vote.

00:11:18.480 Let's go back.

00:11:19.360 Let's go back to pre-Civil War.

00:11:21.800 Try to vote now, Myron.

00:11:27.300 Yeah, women shouldn't be able to vote.

00:11:28.420 I think we have two issues here, right?

00:11:29.480 Number one, the vote has never actually been tied to military service.

00:11:32.540 It's typically citizenship.

00:11:34.200 And age are usually kind of the two main things that we've always used for voting.

00:11:38.720 I would be totally fine with us having an amendment where we add women to selective

00:11:42.480 service.

00:11:42.900 I have no issue with that whatsoever, right?

00:11:44.840 And I think equal strokes.

00:11:46.060 The issue is that when it comes to voting, there are going to be topics that uniquely

00:11:49.640 affect men and uniquely affect women.

00:11:51.860 In this case, war does uniquely affect men right now, which might be unfair.

00:11:55.860 But in the case of something like abortion, abortion and birthright control and all these

00:11:59.700 sort of things, these disproportionately affect women, right?

00:12:02.140 And so when we're talking about, like, who gets the right to vote, is it because of,

00:12:05.020 like, certain topics uniquely affect one gender, the right to another?

00:12:07.980 That's not how we've ever tied the right to vote.

00:12:10.200 It could be landowners.

00:12:11.240 It could be multiple things.

00:12:12.420 In America, though, we seem to mostly decide age and citizenship.

00:12:17.280 But the problem I have is that Democrats have been substantially more likely to vote for

00:12:22.240 war, to promote war, particularly in Ukraine.

00:12:25.940 Republicans have been pressuring Trump not to be involved.

00:12:28.500 His base split over the Iran issue.

00:12:30.900 Millennial women are about 70% voting Democrat.

00:12:33.980 So you have this phenomenon in the millennial to Gen Z younger generation where women are

00:12:38.660 disproportionately voting for a war they have no responsibility in.

00:12:42.160 Or I should say a limited responsibility in.

00:12:44.560 And it's crazy to me that half the population can vote and send the other half to die.

00:12:48.040 And that's equality.

00:12:48.760 So I'm a millennial woman.

00:12:51.680 And I am married to a veteran.

00:12:53.760 And both of us are very anti-war.

00:12:56.800 He is anti-war as somebody who went over there.

00:12:59.740 I think that to pin the power of the military-industrial complex, which is a very powerful, powerful force

00:13:07.240 on women being able to vote is wild.

00:13:10.620 But I also understand...

00:13:11.540 That's a mischaracterization of what I said.

00:13:13.060 Okay.

00:13:13.420 No, I was talking...

00:13:14.160 I think I was talking more about what Myron said than what you said.

00:13:18.500 I understand also that this is like Myron's whole thing.

00:13:22.540 But so you have to say like women can't vote and then you get attention.

00:13:27.160 And you also kind of act like you invented misogyny, which you didn't.

00:13:31.540 Like it's been around for a very long time.

00:13:35.560 These are not hot takes.

00:13:37.200 These are like very old, archaic takes.

00:13:39.240 But he is in the top 10, right?

00:13:41.740 Well, because he goes really hard and he gets a lot of attention for it.

00:13:45.240 And then there are these men, sadly, who listen to you, who I think are lonely.

00:13:50.800 And I love men.

00:13:51.720 I'm not somebody who...

00:13:52.600 I'm not like a man-hating woman.

00:13:54.260 I love men.

00:13:55.680 And I think that a lot of men have been left behind in a lot of ways.

00:13:59.760 And I understand that.

00:14:01.200 But I don't think that blaming all of your problems...

00:14:03.220 If you do blame all your problems on women, then that could be the reason why you don't

00:14:08.120 have one.

00:14:08.800 There's another group of people that Myron blames his problems on.

00:14:11.340 It's not women.

00:14:12.000 That's true.

00:14:12.380 I want to let Myron respond.

00:14:13.960 But I guess I want to pose this question.

00:14:15.780 What is the bigger threat?

00:14:16.880 Feminism or misogyny?

00:14:19.620 What's worse for society?

00:14:21.060 So when I say feminism, I feel like things like I have the right to vote.

00:14:25.500 I have a job.

00:14:27.160 I'm a participating member of society, which is different than hating men.

00:14:31.820 So it kind of depends how you...

00:14:34.180 Well, do you hate women, Myron?

00:14:35.820 I'm not just more curious.

00:14:37.440 Sometimes.

00:14:39.180 Actually, most of...

00:14:40.000 No, I'm just kidding.

00:14:41.760 Look, the reality is that when it comes to feminism, et cetera, women are stupid.

00:14:47.900 Let's be honest about this.

00:14:49.140 And the reason why, right?

00:14:50.560 It's not just...

00:14:51.120 And she said it herself.

00:14:52.060 Misogyny isn't something new.

00:14:52.960 She's right.

00:14:53.940 In ancient China, to the Middle East, to Eastern Europe, everybody knew that women are...

00:14:58.380 So we need to make them second-class citizens.

00:15:00.220 So that's why they didn't have the right to vote and do a lot of stuff.

00:15:02.640 And then now...

00:15:03.100 What an eloquent argument.

00:15:04.480 I never could have come up with something that intelligent as a stupid woman.

00:15:08.560 I let her speak, and now she won't let me speak.

00:15:10.560 So it's interesting to me how she said, oh, yeah, this isn't something new.

00:15:13.360 Yeah, you're right.

00:15:13.920 Everyone from...

00:15:14.700 Since ancient times knew that women are...

00:15:16.240 We need to make them second-class citizens.

00:15:17.860 And they...

00:15:18.380 Here's the craziest part.

00:15:19.500 They lived in other ends of the world, and they still realize...

00:15:22.640 The Asian dudes, ling-bing-ding, all the way to the fucking Mohammeds in the Middle East,

00:15:26.400 to the Eastern Europeans of Slav.

00:15:28.400 They all knew, damn, women are stupid.

00:15:30.220 We need to go ahead and put them in the kitchen.

00:15:31.560 Now they're out the kitchen, and what's going on?

00:15:33.420 Society is...

00:15:34.060 Which civilization of all the ones that you listed do you like the most?

00:15:38.140 Do you like modern America, or do you like Saudi Arabia, or do you like ancient Japan?

00:15:43.960 What do you like the most?

00:15:45.220 Well, look, I like any society that has women under control, and right now we don't,

00:15:49.040 which is why shit is fucked up.

00:15:50.240 So why don't you move to Saudi Arabia?

00:15:51.560 They don't have the right to vote.

00:15:52.560 They can barely drive.

00:15:53.620 It's a great place.

00:15:54.600 Do you want Sharia law?

00:15:55.820 No, no, Myron.

00:15:56.280 That's where they can drive now.

00:15:57.440 They can drive.

00:15:58.300 They can drive, and that's bad.

00:15:59.740 Wait, are you...

00:16:00.340 But be honest if...

00:16:00.960 So you think that Saudi Arabia is a better country than America?

00:16:08.880 When it comes to handling women, yes.

00:16:11.120 Yes.

00:16:11.560 When it comes to handling women, yes.

00:16:12.120 Just overall, don't change the question.

00:16:14.020 Don't run away from it.

00:16:14.540 Crime is less in Saudi Arabia.

00:16:15.280 Do you think...

00:16:15.940 Well, they have less crime.

00:16:16.800 You were talking about these global things, about how when women are oppressed, you know,

00:16:20.480 that's been the societal trend.

00:16:22.040 And so I asked you, modern America decided, along with a whole bunch of Western democracies,

00:16:25.880 and I think you like Western civilization, that that's a bad idea.

00:16:28.920 And so the question is, why is America so great if Saudi Arabia's got this one thing

00:16:33.960 so well to...

00:16:34.820 Like, shouldn't that be the great country?

00:16:36.480 Well, you could be better in different ways, right?

00:16:38.300 So Muslim theocracy's got it.

00:16:39.820 No, I didn't say that.

00:16:42.080 What I'm saying is, here's the problem, right?

00:16:44.700 When you have women having too much power, it creates a lot of issues.

00:16:48.600 Because women are communitarian by nature, right?

00:16:51.100 They don't know what the fuck they want to do.

00:16:52.480 They can't even decide what they want to eat, let alone pick their own partners.

00:16:54.580 That's why the divorce rates are through the fucking room.

00:16:55.940 Wait, time out.

00:16:56.600 You guys admit it's hard for women to choose what to eat, though, Kat.

00:16:59.440 Is that true?

00:17:00.360 Can we at least agree on that?

00:17:01.500 Well, yes, but it also could be all this nicotine gum, I'm always choosing.

00:17:03.920 That is typically my girlfriend.

00:17:07.340 It is hard for women to choose what to eat.

00:17:09.040 I think you're 100% right about that.

00:17:10.900 Sure, but we also are negating the fact that some of the biggest breakthroughs in ecology

00:17:14.280 science come from the humanitarian approach that women have.

00:17:18.320 DNA was discovered by women.

00:17:19.880 So the issue is that women are decently valuable.

00:17:23.300 When we talk about women being stupid, men are stupid all the time, too.

00:17:26.820 Men are the morons that are ending up in fucking jail all the time because they can't stop punching shit.

00:17:31.340 You made a good point.

00:17:32.200 Wait, wait, wait.

00:17:33.500 Is Frederic Meischer a woman?

00:17:36.860 DNA was first identified by Swiss chemist Friedrich Meischer.

00:17:40.520 Yeah, they were trying to take credit for our stuff.

00:17:42.140 They also said, they were trying to say Wi-Fi was made by women.

00:17:45.060 No, it wasn't.

00:17:45.620 It was made by men as well.

00:17:47.220 Women don't invent anything.

00:17:48.400 They don't contribute to anything besides.

00:17:50.000 Like, to be honest, the only real value women have is reproductive value.

00:17:52.660 I contribute more to the economy than you do, Myron, just objectively.

00:17:56.020 Wait, wait.

00:17:56.540 I want to say, I'm on cat and not to hurt my side, though, that don't you think women are equally valuable to society, though?

00:18:02.680 You don't think so?

00:18:03.360 Dude, if you remove sex and reproduction, they provide almost nothing.

00:18:06.060 Yeah, but we wouldn't have life without those things.

00:18:08.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

00:18:08.600 So don't there's kind of even a playing field?

00:18:09.340 But I want to be clear about this.

00:18:10.680 We don't need them.

00:18:11.900 Like, here's the thing.

00:18:12.700 Women need us.

00:18:13.420 We don't need them.

00:18:14.220 We need them to propagate society for the next generation.

00:18:17.020 That's what I'm at.

00:18:17.380 My point.

00:18:17.840 I said outside of reproduction.

00:18:19.400 So, like, if we want to have kids, yes, we need them.

00:18:21.680 But they need us for everything.

00:18:22.740 So the reality is men bring far more value to society than women do.

00:18:27.000 The only real value they provide is reproductive value.

00:18:28.920 Because let's be honest here.

00:18:29.860 You guys don't give a fuck about what they got to say.

00:18:31.180 You guys are here for us.

00:18:32.060 Nobody cares about what women got to say.

00:18:33.920 They're the suckiest podcasters.

00:18:35.740 Female YouTubers suck.

00:18:37.120 Nobody gives a fuck about their opinion.

00:18:39.000 We're just there for the tits.

00:18:39.980 Isn't, like, when some of the largest podcasts, all Candace Owens, Call Her Daddy, like, some of the largest podcasts are from the run.

00:18:46.100 And to be fair.

00:18:46.940 Candace Owens is an exception.

00:18:48.300 It doesn't matter if you don't like them.

00:18:50.120 The point is that they're highly successful.

00:18:51.720 So maybe you guys don't like to listen to women.

00:18:53.840 But that doesn't mean that broader society doesn't.

00:18:55.860 For example, take women out of the workforce.

00:18:58.040 You've nuked your economy overnight.

00:19:00.140 It's done.

00:19:01.000 They contribute, even if we're being, like, mild and conservative.

00:19:04.820 30%.

00:19:05.220 Probably around 50%.

00:19:06.640 That'd be good for the airline pilot industry, wouldn't it?

00:19:08.980 Wouldn't that save us a lot?

00:19:10.260 I don't know.

00:19:10.940 It seems like there's a lot more going on with the airline pilot industry than just women.

00:19:13.680 But women are usually taking social jobs, like teachers and nurses and stuff like this.

00:19:17.040 Yeah, we need those jobs.

00:19:17.980 We do.

00:19:18.640 But we need oil petroleum engineers more.

00:19:20.380 I would disagree.

00:19:22.060 We need to raise our children.

00:19:23.440 I would like literate children.

00:19:26.740 Public schools are shit.

00:19:28.400 But we should still be teaching our kids.

00:19:29.620 We want our kids to be literate.

00:19:31.120 I agree.

00:19:31.840 And I think women are great teachers.

00:19:33.280 Right?

00:19:33.440 Like, every one of you has been to a hospital.

00:19:35.380 And you're probably super grateful that there's an entire health industry oriented at making

00:19:38.600 sure that your ass doesn't die.

00:19:40.560 Especially a lot of your fat asses don't die.

00:19:42.040 Indeed?

00:19:45.660 Yeah.

00:19:49.280 I can feel the tension.

00:19:51.040 I like that.

00:19:51.380 I was just going to say this way.

00:19:53.240 Real quick though, I do want to say thank you guys for being here.

00:19:55.780 Give yourselves a round of applause.

00:19:57.200 Seriously.

00:19:58.980 And this is our third time doing it here.

00:20:01.900 And I have to say that last week was a little tense with Michael Malice, but you can feel

00:20:06.600 the, you know, the tension up here.

00:20:08.580 I kind of like this debate.

00:20:10.000 And we want to encourage you guys to all come up, whatever you guys, whether you have

00:20:14.240 a question or a debate topic, you know, it's no holds barred.

00:20:16.960 Just say whatever you want to say.

00:20:18.540 And we're going to do that here in a second.

00:20:19.660 But Tim, I mean, I'm liking this, the energy up here.

00:20:22.660 It's a little different this week.

00:20:23.560 There's an interesting split between the civics of it and the dating element of it.

00:20:28.760 So you were saying that.

00:20:29.980 And the morality.

00:20:31.180 I'm sure.

00:20:31.680 What's the morality argument?

00:20:32.820 I think that like feminism is morally good.

00:20:35.340 What does that mean?

00:20:36.520 I think.

00:20:37.560 What does morally good mean?

00:20:39.140 In like a Christian, Aristotelian kind of way.

00:20:41.600 Well, that's my question.

00:20:42.060 All of our like Western systems absolutely value things like agency.

00:20:46.180 Real quick, just define feminism.

00:20:47.680 Sure.

00:20:48.000 Feminism is.

00:20:49.020 Here, I always write it down so I can always cite it.

00:20:50.840 Feminism is in the empowerment of women's agency and the promotion of femininity.

00:20:55.260 What is femininity?

00:20:56.440 Femininity would be like the emergent things that we see.

00:20:59.380 Nurturance.

00:21:00.440 Typically like empathy and kindness.

00:21:02.760 All the things that we typically see in a Western society that would go, yeah, that's feminine by and large.

00:21:07.180 Understanding these sorts of things.

00:21:09.180 Things that identify as feminine as femininity?

00:21:11.980 Typically, yeah.

00:21:12.540 Basically.

00:21:13.140 Yeah.

00:21:13.520 Like what's masculinity?

00:21:14.760 What's masculinity?

00:21:15.920 The things that we kind of identify with men.

00:21:17.040 I don't think women have empathy.

00:21:17.780 Drinking big beers.

00:21:19.400 Well, it's like things like bravery and strength, right?

00:21:22.000 It's things like being like protective, right?

00:21:23.660 These are the things that we like see in all of our stories as masculine or feminine.

00:21:27.780 Were you guys going to get your chance?

00:21:29.340 Everybody shut the fuck up.

00:21:30.460 Is femininity then related to like nurturing?

00:21:33.400 Yeah.

00:21:33.700 Having babies?

00:21:34.440 Yeah.

00:21:35.260 Yeah.

00:21:35.680 Yeah.

00:21:36.140 I think that's good.

00:21:37.400 Hot take.

00:21:37.960 I think women actually lack empathy.

00:21:39.920 Contrary to them saying that they have empathy, I think women have sympathy.

00:21:42.760 They can feel sorry and compassion for sure.

00:21:44.600 But when it comes to empathy, especially to the masculine experience, they don't have

00:21:48.620 it at all.

00:21:49.020 I would argue most women don't know what men want.

00:21:50.680 They don't know what men are interested in.

00:21:51.840 They don't know what it takes to keep a man around, which is why most girls can't even

00:21:54.940 stay in a relationship long term or get married.

00:21:57.440 And let's be honest here.

00:21:58.560 The reason why they're not empathetic is because there's no need to be empathetic because

00:22:01.280 men approach them.

00:22:02.140 Since men approach them and they do the courting and they have to do everything up front, especially

00:22:05.760 at the beginning, a lot of women aren't empathetic to the masculine experience

00:22:09.140 because they don't have to be.

00:22:10.260 Versus men, we have to be empathetic to women.

00:22:12.300 Otherwise, we don't get laid.

00:22:13.540 Yeah, you're very empathetic to women.

00:22:15.800 No, well, here's the thing.

00:22:16.780 I understand you guys, which is why I don't respect you.

00:22:18.680 So that's why, because the reality is if you understand women, there's no way you can

00:22:22.480 respect them as an equal because they're inferior in almost every way.

00:22:25.320 What does that mean?

00:22:26.420 I just don't understand why you would say that.

00:22:28.300 Sure.

00:22:29.440 I mean, here's the thing.

00:22:31.380 You can either respect them as an equal, right?

00:22:33.860 Or you don't respect, like my thing is I understand women.

00:22:36.540 So since therefore I understand women, I cannot respect you guys as equals because you guys

00:22:40.180 have a completely different worldview.

00:22:42.280 You guys are inferior in almost everything that matters.

00:22:44.180 Like in what?

00:22:44.900 Like what?

00:22:45.340 Name the things that matters.

00:22:45.920 You guys are weaker, dumber, smaller, like...

00:22:49.440 Weaker, dumber.

00:22:50.480 Yeah, literally, like...

00:22:52.040 Less fit, less strong.

00:22:53.320 But wait, by these standards, your co-host is inferior to you in every way because he's

00:22:58.240 weaker.

00:22:58.640 He doesn't exercise his mind.

00:22:59.520 But he's still superior to you.

00:22:59.780 He's not as strong.

00:23:00.300 That's my point.

00:23:00.720 That's not what the issue is.

00:23:02.440 What the issue is...

00:23:03.240 He's still superior to you, though.

00:23:03.840 What the issue is on the thing...

00:23:05.060 Well, actually, not really.

00:23:06.400 I think I'm actually fitter than Fresh.

00:23:08.080 He's stronger than me, but I think I'm literally fitter than him.

00:23:10.300 And also when it comes to debates, I tend to do better than him in debates.

00:23:13.300 All the things that you tend to value are the things that he's inferior.

00:23:16.400 The issue is...

00:23:16.960 Hold on.

00:23:17.440 Just so it's clear.

00:23:17.940 Can you open a pickle drink?

00:23:18.860 I don't think...

00:23:19.180 I don't think that Fresh is inferior because I don't think that only these things matter to

00:23:23.840 the value of a person.

00:23:24.760 When we talk about things like the Western civilization tradition, do you guys actually care about

00:23:29.500 the American project and what this means?

00:23:31.480 We have to get real about the things that are the precepts of what we believe in.

00:23:35.300 This is things like Christian theology and Aristotelian thinking.

00:23:39.160 And in these precepts, everyone assumes that there is going to be a variety of ways in

00:23:43.380 which people are beneficial.

00:23:44.640 But we don't typically give inferior or superior because we recognize, for example, that while

00:23:49.140 Fresh is not as strong as a debater as you, he's so good at networking.

00:23:52.360 He's really personable.

00:23:53.340 He's really good at connecting people.

00:23:55.260 And you value that.

00:23:56.400 Whereas women are strong at other things.

00:23:58.520 We don't have to be equal.

00:23:59.820 We just need to be valuable.

00:24:01.440 But isn't there like...

00:24:02.800 You know how Noah laughed because that's like the oldest joke that's ever been told?

00:24:07.920 Women make sandwiches.

00:24:09.440 You're stupid.

00:24:10.880 Blah, blah, blah.

00:24:12.060 It's like I'm bored already.

00:24:15.280 All right.

00:24:16.020 Again, I'm still trying to figure out why she's talking.

00:24:18.200 This is not a kitchen.

00:24:19.200 I don't know what's going on right now.

00:24:20.840 There it is again.

00:24:21.320 It's crazy.

00:24:22.600 I think it's great when you talk, though, because a lot of times people say that there's

00:24:26.340 no need for feminism anymore.

00:24:28.880 And then people hear you talk and you're saying that, you know, women should all be owned by

00:24:33.120 men and all these other things that you say.

00:24:35.400 And people might think differently because you're going to be a lot different.

00:24:39.740 New audience is going to see you thanks to me being on this panel.

00:24:42.580 You're welcome, by the way.

00:24:43.600 Who are you again?

00:24:44.580 I don't even know who this...

00:24:45.400 Who is this female?

00:24:46.420 I don't even know.

00:24:48.680 She's the host of the highest rated...

00:24:50.640 No one watches mainstream media anymore anyway, so that's fine.

00:24:55.720 What, do you actually think women should be owned, Myron?

00:24:57.680 She said you believe that.

00:24:58.500 I mean, it's kind of funny.

00:24:59.340 She's over here, all this blah, blah, but she's married, which is a male-led institution,

00:25:03.020 which is interesting to me.

00:25:03.940 So it's like she's buying into it even though she's trying to sit here and be like,

00:25:06.540 I'm kind of like...

00:25:08.500 I'm a feminist, but at the same time I'm married, blah, blah, blah.

00:25:10.660 It's like, pick one, man.

00:25:11.560 You serve under a man.

00:25:12.720 So it's like, I don't even know why she's talking.

00:25:15.080 I serve under a man?

00:25:16.440 Yeah.

00:25:16.740 You're married to a guy, which marriage in itself is a male-led institution.

00:25:21.640 See, not my marriage.

00:25:23.140 Oh, God.

00:25:24.000 So you wear the pants in your...

00:25:24.820 We're equal partners in my marriage.

00:25:26.300 I know that's crazy, but it actually works well for very happy.

00:25:29.600 The concept of equality is a lie.

00:25:31.000 It's not true.

00:25:32.180 One is always a leader.

00:25:33.080 Who's the leader in your relationship?

00:25:34.480 Who's the decision maker, you or him?

00:25:35.920 Depends on the thing.

00:25:36.900 This doesn't make one person more or less more valuable.

00:25:40.020 Who's the man, the leader in the relationship, you or him?

00:25:40.960 It depends on the thing.

00:25:42.020 We are equal partners.

00:25:43.380 We've been through a shit ton together.

00:25:45.320 Oh, crap.

00:25:45.600 A lot of stuff together, especially recently.

00:25:49.240 And I love him very much.

00:25:50.860 He loves me very much.

00:25:52.040 And I would never have a child with somebody who didn't see me as a person.

00:25:56.080 I see a lot of posts on the internet about, like, the fertility problem and why aren't women

00:26:00.320 having kids.

00:26:01.180 And you look at the comments, and you see why maybe women don't want to have kids with...

00:26:04.620 And it ain't the women that are the problem a lot of the times.

00:26:07.380 There's a lot of problems with talking about women, why do women want to have kids, and

00:26:10.960 not enough talk about why men aren't becoming, in some cases, the kind of partners that women

00:26:15.780 would want to have a child with.

00:26:18.140 But I did not meet someone I'd want to have a child with until I met my husband when

00:26:21.760 I was 30 years old.

00:26:22.320 Still trying to figure out who the leader is here.

00:26:24.020 Nothing gets done by a committee.

00:26:25.520 Because not everybody uses the world the way you do, thankfully.

00:26:28.000 I want to bring it back to feminism, because I think feminism is a key component in a relationship

00:26:34.360 breakdown.

00:26:35.300 There was a story several years ago where, in New York, women in their 30s could not find

00:26:40.940 men who made as much or more than they did.

00:26:43.820 And it was like a shock to the system.

00:26:45.500 All these writers, these are female writers, are saying, why can't we find good men?

00:26:50.740 And it's, well, because they weren't attracted to guys who made less, and they didn't want

00:26:54.540 to be with younger guys.

00:26:55.280 So the guys who are the same age as them, who made $50,000 a year, were like, I can date

00:26:59.360 a 24-year-old woman, somebody who wants to have a family and is younger.

00:27:02.300 So guys are aiming for younger women, but women are being told to get jobs and have careers.

00:27:07.180 But you mentioned guys aren't stepping up.

00:27:09.060 I think this creates an inverse problem, where for young men, they're either struggling to

00:27:14.480 date because younger women can date older guys through dating apps, or women, you know,

00:27:19.440 why buy the cow when you get the milk for free, if you know what I mean?

00:27:22.460 Like you can have sex without, like...

00:27:23.940 These guys who are young are like, I don't need a job, I don't need status, because if

00:27:27.860 I go to the club and spend $15 on booze, I get laid.

00:27:30.640 Yeah, I mean, I agree.

00:27:31.760 I just think that, like, this is like the trade-off of agency, right?

00:27:35.700 Like, agency is one of the most important things that we can have, the ability to choose,

00:27:40.980 right?

00:27:41.360 Because if you don't have agency, you can't choose to do noble and good things.

00:27:44.700 You can't choose to do bad things.

00:27:46.060 And so I would agree that, like, when I look at the modern dating culture, first of all,

00:27:49.460 the 24-year-old girls are not like, ah, I'm so ready to settle down and have kids.

00:27:53.440 They're like, these are the people you're calling whores half the time, right?

00:27:56.300 And so...

00:27:57.180 They used to be.

00:27:58.720 Yeah, they used...

00:27:59.660 People used to get married and have kids at 22.

00:28:01.120 Sure, but we also died at 55 around the same time.

00:28:03.580 No, we didn't.

00:28:04.400 Yeah.

00:28:04.760 That is not correct.

00:28:05.560 Yeah.

00:28:05.800 We did have a lower life expectancy.

00:28:06.500 That is not correct.

00:28:07.460 We had a much shorter life expectancy.

00:28:08.180 The shorter life expectancy was due to the infant mortality rate.

00:28:11.040 People actually who survived infancy would live for a very long time.

00:28:13.580 But while people are living...

00:28:15.680 No, men were dying in mines.

00:28:17.780 They're not at 55.

00:28:18.200 No, men were dying in mines and women were also dying in childhood.

00:28:20.980 Sure, and while life expectancy has increased by a few years recently...

00:28:24.220 A lot.

00:28:24.700 ...that isn't changing the fact that society used to be very different.

00:28:28.300 Women in pre-feminism were focused on families, and the big social deal was,

00:28:33.980 who are you going steady with and who are you having a family with?

00:28:36.040 I'm not saying society should be that way, but when that's gone and women start prioritizing,

00:28:40.740 what job am I going to have, you're not going to have families at 22 like we used to anymore,

00:28:44.620 and now we're in a fertility crisis, and we've got no young people.

00:28:47.700 Gen Alpha is only 40 million people.

00:28:49.660 It is half the size of the millennials.

00:28:51.280 Sure, so to this I would basically say I agree that there has been a lot of cons

00:28:55.000 that have come with giving women agency.

00:28:57.000 I think giving women agency is actually a deontological good.

00:29:01.180 Letting people choose means that they have the choice to choose the noble things.

00:29:05.160 This is really, really important in Western society specifically.

00:29:09.220 This is the foundation of what we believe in the American project.

00:29:13.340 And so, yes, women back then didn't have as many choices.

00:29:16.980 They couldn't own private property.

00:29:18.220 They basically had to be married to a man to have any access or rights or power.

00:29:21.360 They couldn't have a credit card until the 80s.

00:29:22.860 Exactly, right?

00:29:23.720 So women had...

00:29:24.260 Better times, less debt.

00:29:26.140 Women had less agency.

00:29:27.940 Women had less agency.

00:29:29.460 But I would argue that that was a moral failing of society.

00:29:32.380 And just because the outcomes right now might be worse,

00:29:35.120 that doesn't necessarily mean that this is not something that we fundamentally value.

00:29:38.640 We value, in America, giving people choice.

00:29:42.120 I hear that.

00:29:42.640 I remember, you know, last week we had this big debate on police.

00:29:45.020 And I think the shortcomings for Michael Malice,

00:29:48.080 which I respect the guy, he's a good friend,

00:29:49.380 but he kept saying police were bad.

00:29:51.460 And it sounded like all he was saying was,

00:29:53.380 yes, there are big problems with police and there's no alternative.

00:29:56.120 Or the system will always be bad in some way, but there is a worse.

00:29:59.980 So I look at this now and I'm like,

00:30:01.600 okay, you know, I agree to a certain degree on the deontological aspect of

00:30:05.440 people should have free choice.

00:30:06.640 You want to have a job, you can do it.

00:30:07.500 You want to have finances, all that's fine.

00:30:08.840 Is the end result then that Gen Alpha is 40 million and collapsing

00:30:12.760 and there won't be any humans in the future

00:30:15.280 or cities are going to start shrinking,

00:30:17.220 infrastructure is going to start crumbling,

00:30:18.480 and we're going to go, you know,

00:30:19.820 it was a moral good to make sure that we had this semblance of equality under the law

00:30:24.460 and then society was destroyed by it.

00:30:26.320 Well, equity of agency does mean bad outcomes sometimes.

00:30:29.300 The issue is that I'm not opposed to people strongly.

00:30:31.520 Which proves that when women have agency, things go bad.

00:30:34.600 Actually, when most people have agency, people make terrible choices, right?

00:30:38.140 When we give young men free agency,

00:30:39.940 what's the window where young men do the most crime?

00:30:42.200 It's typically the ages where they get the most amount of agency.

00:30:45.840 People, when they are given choice, often choose poorly,

00:30:49.440 but that's not the reason we don't give them choice.

00:30:51.820 Because if we don't give them choice,

00:30:53.720 they are enslaved to correct action because of necessity.

00:30:57.200 And that's not the world that we want to live in.

00:30:59.000 We want people to choose the noble thing because they are choosing to do something.

00:31:02.880 Now, here's the thing.

00:31:03.400 Wait, wait, wait.

00:31:03.860 I see your perspective with agency.

00:31:05.560 I see that.

00:31:06.100 But we need to be honest with women.

00:31:07.280 The problem is that we're not honest with women, right?

00:31:09.360 We don't tell them, look, if you want to pursue a career,

00:31:11.460 you want to make money,

00:31:12.520 your chances of finding a guy down the road are going to be significantly harder.

00:31:15.120 We don't tell them if you decide to be promiscuous now,

00:31:17.080 it's going to cost you later on.

00:31:18.300 We tell women they should be able to do whatever they want

00:31:20.100 and not deal with consequences of their actions.

00:31:22.160 In other words, go ahead and be on OnlyFans

00:31:23.820 and you'll still find a guy that's 6'3",

00:31:25.340 making $100,000 a month that's going to take you seriously.

00:31:27.320 It's not going to happen.

00:31:28.440 So we're not honest with women about what happens.

00:31:30.480 And the reason why is because women don't really deal with the consequences

00:31:33.100 of their bad decisions a lot of times until it's too late.

00:31:35.340 At least with men, if I'm a loser,

00:31:36.540 I have to deal with the consequences of being a loser.

00:31:38.320 Women don't.

00:31:38.920 We don't tell them the truth.

00:31:40.040 Because financially, there's no incentive to tell women the truth

00:31:42.480 because women are consumers.

00:31:43.820 So we want to tell them what sounds good

00:31:45.200 so they continue to consume.

00:31:46.580 Real quick, it's like how Unilever owns Ben & Jerry's

00:31:50.240 and they own Dove's Real Beauty Campaign.

00:31:53.520 It's like telling all these women,

00:31:54.560 hey, you're beautiful if you're fat.

00:31:55.580 By the way, here's our ice cream.

00:31:56.720 Eat more of it.

00:31:57.320 Yeah.

00:31:57.800 We don't tell women the truth,

00:31:59.720 which is one of my biggest problems.

00:32:00.700 If we want to give them agency, that's fine.

00:32:02.420 But at least let's let them know,

00:32:03.840 this is what your agency comes with.

00:32:05.060 And if you decide to go down this road,

00:32:06.400 this is what's going to happen.

00:32:07.000 We don't tell women the truth,

00:32:07.940 which is one of the biggest issues.

00:32:08.700 I'm totally with you, actually.

00:32:09.800 So one of my biggest frustrations with feminism,

00:32:11.860 as somebody who's defending feminism,

00:32:13.620 which is funny because feminists really don't like me a lot of the time,

00:32:15.820 is that I think that we have done a lot of infantilizing of women.

00:32:19.280 I think that infantilizing of women was a form of sexism

00:32:21.640 that came with low agency.

00:32:23.460 And the issue is that women are being like,

00:32:24.760 we want agency, but also babyists.

00:32:26.600 And I think that that's a bad thing.

00:32:28.280 The issue is that I have no issue with you saying,

00:32:30.600 women, you should have a family.

00:32:32.180 It's the thing that you will come to love the most.

00:32:34.280 You should be more careful in who you're selecting.

00:32:36.760 I don't have any issue with this.

00:32:38.280 I have an issue with you taking away my rights

00:32:39.980 because that takes away my agency.

00:32:42.600 Well, a lot of times we have to take your agency away

00:32:44.500 so you make the right decisions.

00:32:45.620 That's the problem.

00:32:46.320 And that's how it used to work for a very long time.

00:32:47.800 That's not meaningful.

00:32:48.260 Because when you leave women,

00:32:49.120 well, here's the thing.

00:32:49.900 When you leave women to their own devices,

00:32:51.260 they make really bad decisions.

00:32:52.620 When we leave men to their own devices,

00:32:54.020 they make bad decisions.

00:32:54.680 Look at the way society is now

00:32:55.840 where the nuclear family is crumbling.

00:32:57.420 When you give women their own decisions,

00:32:58.760 they make really bad decisions.

00:32:59.900 That's why the father was so important

00:33:01.520 because we would keep our daughters off the strip poles

00:33:03.040 and our sons out of jail.

00:33:04.120 At least with men, however,

00:33:05.560 when we do dumb shit,

00:33:06.500 we deal with consequences.

00:33:07.560 How many men are addicted to porn?

00:33:09.080 They don't deal with consequences.

00:33:09.700 How many men are addicted to porn?

00:33:11.060 A lot.

00:33:11.220 Here's the thing, though.

00:33:11.880 They're addicted to porn because,

00:33:13.380 you're right, you're right.

00:33:14.260 But again,

00:33:15.240 they deal with consequences for being fucking losers.

00:33:17.540 Women don't.

00:33:18.340 That's my point.

00:33:18.940 Women do because they turn,

00:33:20.420 you already,

00:33:20.900 wait, hold on.

00:33:21.580 Of course they do.

00:33:22.240 You already said that if they go on

00:33:23.840 and they have all this career and stuff,

00:33:25.140 they're going to be less likely to find a man.

00:33:26.680 That is the consequence of their choices.

00:33:28.460 But they don't find out until it's too late

00:33:29.660 is my point.

00:33:30.220 The issue is that most men

00:33:31.240 who are addicted to porn

00:33:32.100 don't discover how much it's fucking up

00:33:33.660 their sex lives

00:33:34.300 until they actually get a girlfriend

00:33:35.520 and they can't find their girlfriend.

00:33:37.580 That's the issue with porn addiction.

00:33:39.140 Sure, sure.

00:33:40.000 So typically...

00:33:40.480 Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

00:33:41.120 Myron, you want to ban porn?

00:33:42.540 Do I?

00:33:43.440 Man, it has a lot of...

00:33:45.180 Dude, I'm very close to...

00:33:46.780 Yeah, I think...

00:33:47.480 You want the nanny state, guys.

00:33:48.200 I think it needs to be regulated in a way.

00:33:49.720 I think we need to regulate it.

00:33:50.800 Do you want to ban porn?

00:33:51.620 I think it's a problem.

00:33:52.440 No.

00:33:53.540 But what about all those problems you just named?

00:33:55.820 Again, I don't want to ban drugs

00:33:57.340 even though drugs cause addiction a lot of the time.

00:33:59.520 I want people to make choices

00:34:00.960 and I want there to be off-ramps

00:34:02.380 for bad choices as much as possible.

00:34:04.220 But at the end of the day,

00:34:05.320 I want people to make a noble choice.

00:34:07.380 If I sit my kid down...

00:34:08.520 Hold on.

00:34:09.000 If I sit my kid down

00:34:09.740 and I say carrots or broccoli

00:34:11.480 and they choose carrots,

00:34:12.620 I'm not going to be like,

00:34:13.340 wow, my kid's picking healthy food.

00:34:15.100 No.

00:34:15.600 They were forced to the correct action by necessity.

00:34:18.780 I don't want that society.

00:34:20.200 What if you had ice cream to that?

00:34:21.200 What if you said broccoli, carrots, ice cream?

00:34:22.640 What are they going to pick?

00:34:22.880 Now they have agency.

00:34:24.120 And what are they going to pick?

00:34:24.800 They're probably going to pick ice cream for a long time.

00:34:26.420 Fuck yeah, ice cream every time.

00:34:27.700 Yeah.

00:34:27.940 So here's my question.

00:34:31.200 This is not to agree or disagree,

00:34:32.480 but it's a philosophical, moral question.

00:34:34.360 You keep saying,

00:34:35.780 yes, these bad things are going to happen,

00:34:37.160 but we should be able to choose.

00:34:38.260 Yes.

00:34:38.440 If that system leads to the end of humanity,

00:34:41.300 is it the right choice?

00:34:42.200 That system has led to America as it is today,

00:34:44.740 and I think America is...

00:34:45.360 No, that's not correct.

00:34:46.300 It absolutely is.

00:34:46.840 Well, technically it is, with all its crime and dysfunction.

00:34:49.280 Well, what is Western civilization?

00:34:50.900 Western civilization is Greek philosophy,

00:34:53.280 it's Roman bureaucracy and law,

00:34:54.920 and it is Christian theology.

00:34:56.760 That's the foundations of Western society,

00:34:59.880 and all of these systems value individualism.

00:35:03.420 It values your ability to make choices,

00:35:05.640 including bad choices.

00:35:08.100 So let me ask you,

00:35:08.940 is it like it's nice to have your door open

00:35:11.620 on a nice, cool summer night, you know?

00:35:14.600 Sure.

00:35:14.820 It feels good.

00:35:15.840 And then at three in the morning,

00:35:16.900 one day a guy breaks into your house.

00:35:18.500 Yes, you can mention that there are good systems

00:35:20.520 that lead to comfortability and success,

00:35:22.200 but eventually those can create security problems

00:35:24.540 for your society,

00:35:25.300 which creates the ebb and flow of security states.

00:35:28.140 Exactly, but this is why...

00:35:28.780 The problems are going to get so bad

00:35:30.120 that more Myrons are going to start emerging

00:35:32.120 because they're going to say,

00:35:34.040 crime is way too high.

00:35:35.960 Women keep voting for Democrats overwhelmingly,

00:35:38.200 and whether the reason is that women vote for Democrats,

00:35:41.960 that's what they identify,

00:35:43.420 and then it's going to lead to some kind of social disorder

00:35:46.160 and then an authoritarian shift.

00:35:48.160 Sure, so there's this...

00:35:49.480 Kamala would be president right now

00:35:50.600 if we had to rely on female votes.

00:35:52.300 Probably.

00:35:52.820 She would literally be president right now.

00:35:53.580 Yeah.

00:35:54.140 That's bad.

00:35:55.200 It'd be a Democrat supermajority across the country.

00:35:57.180 So there's this concept.

00:35:58.960 I wish I could remember what it's called,

00:36:00.140 but it's this idea how essentially

00:36:01.620 sometimes the advocacy,

00:36:03.640 the social advocacy itself,

00:36:05.020 prevents the bad thing from happening.

00:36:06.620 So let me give an example.

00:36:07.920 You guys are familiar with Jordan Peterson,

00:36:09.640 Bill C-16.

00:36:10.740 He was super worried about...

00:36:13.040 Are you guys familiar with this?

00:36:14.180 Of course.

00:36:15.320 You guys are familiar about this?

00:36:16.280 Yeah.

00:36:16.900 Great, okay.

00:36:17.480 Yeah, he lost that, didn't he?

00:36:18.360 He did, but one of his arguments

00:36:19.900 for why he was doing it

00:36:20.660 is he was saying this might lead

00:36:21.980 to some sort of a authoritarian control

00:36:23.820 on free speech,

00:36:25.000 and a whole bunch of people like,

00:36:26.060 especially on my side,

00:36:26.940 are like, you're so stupid.

00:36:28.480 The issue is that

00:36:29.480 it is very likely

00:36:30.780 that his advocacy against C-16

00:36:33.320 is part of what informed

00:36:35.260 Congress's interpretation of that bill

00:36:37.380 to make it less authoritarian.

00:36:39.200 I don't have an issue

00:36:40.280 with you guys saying

00:36:41.240 women should be more cautious.

00:36:42.980 Women aren't being very smart.

00:36:44.380 I don't have an issue with that.

00:36:45.400 That's free speech,

00:36:46.160 and that is some of the things

00:36:47.640 that will probably offset

00:36:48.880 the degradation of society

00:36:50.120 that you may be worried about

00:36:51.240 if I agree with your worldview.

00:36:53.260 What I care about

00:36:54.200 is taking away rights.

00:36:55.640 That's it.

00:36:56.460 That's my hard line.

00:36:57.240 Don't take away the rights.

00:36:57.840 Once again, let me ask you the question.

00:36:59.140 If the system you have described

00:37:00.920 leads to the end of humanity,

00:37:02.680 was it a good system?

00:37:04.240 I would have to believe you

00:37:05.800 that the American project

00:37:07.240 will lead to the end of society.

00:37:08.460 I just don't think it will.

00:37:09.380 The question is,

00:37:10.600 let's try this again.

00:37:11.680 Sure.

00:37:11.980 If a system of open and free choice

00:37:13.920 would ultimately,

00:37:14.820 would ultimately

00:37:15.820 lead to the end of civilization,

00:37:17.940 human death and extinction,

00:37:19.080 is it a good system?

00:37:19.780 Nope.

00:37:20.520 But I don't think

00:37:21.040 that that's the system

00:37:21.680 that we have.

00:37:22.140 So at what point

00:37:23.340 in the current trends

00:37:25.200 would it get bad enough

00:37:26.580 for you to believe

00:37:27.300 we are on track

00:37:28.240 for civil digital collapse?

00:37:30.520 Could it be like fertility

00:37:32.400 at 0.3 or 0.6?

00:37:34.900 No.

00:37:36.380 That's tough

00:37:37.000 because the fertility issue

00:37:37.880 is way less about feminism

00:37:38.740 and way more about

00:37:39.360 our terrible food

00:37:40.280 and our agriculture sector.

00:37:41.640 I disagree.

00:37:42.060 Well, like you guys

00:37:43.640 just talked about

00:37:44.180 eating testosterone.

00:37:45.100 That's really bad

00:37:46.620 for fertility.

00:37:47.180 Well, you know,

00:37:47.720 they do say that

00:37:48.420 actually, you know,

00:37:49.280 I was saying that earlier

00:37:50.000 about the microplastics.

00:37:51.020 Men are to blame

00:37:51.940 for the fertility issue too.

00:37:53.180 They are.

00:37:54.140 By all means,

00:37:56.120 we can mention

00:37:56.680 that guys have gotten weaker

00:37:58.120 and whinier

00:37:58.720 or whatever you want to say,

00:37:59.740 but the reality is

00:38:00.520 I won't make any excuses for it.

00:38:02.600 I didn't have a family

00:38:03.240 in my 20s.

00:38:03.860 I just had a kid

00:38:05.400 for the first time.

00:38:06.320 Congratulations.

00:38:06.820 Where was my generation,

00:38:09.300 men and women,

00:38:10.640 to be like,

00:38:11.260 it is a social imperative

00:38:12.460 to have a family now

00:38:13.440 sorted out.

00:38:14.460 For all the young guys,

00:38:16.220 men were told

00:38:17.420 sexual liberation,

00:38:19.000 you don't need

00:38:19.620 to have a family,

00:38:20.580 who cares,

00:38:21.340 birth control and abortions

00:38:22.320 in every major city.

00:38:23.700 And now,

00:38:24.500 Gen Alpha,

00:38:25.220 I don't think people realize

00:38:26.420 how insane it is

00:38:27.560 that the upcoming generation

00:38:29.380 that are 15 years old

00:38:30.300 at their oldest,

00:38:31.340 there's only 40 million.

00:38:32.560 Already,

00:38:33.280 and actually,

00:38:33.700 I'm a big fan of this part,

00:38:34.900 universities are shutting down.

00:38:37.060 18 years on

00:38:38.140 from the financial collapse

00:38:39.140 in 07, 08,

00:38:40.280 people,

00:38:40.640 my age,

00:38:41.620 didn't have any kids.

00:38:42.920 There are no 18-year-olds

00:38:44.220 to go to university

00:38:44.880 or to start jobs.

00:38:46.420 And so,

00:38:46.940 companies are struggling

00:38:47.640 to hire,

00:38:48.400 universities are shutting down,

00:38:49.520 and this is just the beginning

00:38:50.820 of fertility collapse.

00:38:52.280 Now,

00:38:52.940 if we had a society

00:38:53.840 that told men,

00:38:55.780 and even,

00:38:56.240 I'm saying,

00:38:56.780 even with choice,

00:38:57.860 they said to men,

00:38:58.660 guys,

00:38:59.440 you should strive

00:39:00.200 to be the best,

00:39:01.340 the strongest,

00:39:02.020 the boss.

00:39:02.540 Women,

00:39:03.280 choose what you want,

00:39:04.860 but,

00:39:05.580 social pressure is,

00:39:06.840 be a mom,

00:39:07.420 have a family,

00:39:08.340 help society continue.

00:39:09.520 If that was the route we went

00:39:11.180 and we still had social pressures

00:39:12.260 on having kids,

00:39:13.120 we wouldn't be

00:39:13.760 in this fertility crisis.

00:39:14.800 I actually just agree with you.

00:39:16.300 The issue is that

00:39:16.960 I think the way

00:39:17.560 for the government

00:39:18.020 to manage it

00:39:18.680 isn't to take away

00:39:19.520 women's right to vote.

00:39:20.500 It would be things

00:39:21.040 like child tax credits.

00:39:22.320 Didn't the BBB

00:39:23.300 actually include

00:39:24.040 a really big child tax credit?

00:39:26.020 One of the reasons

00:39:26.660 why people don't have kids

00:39:27.800 in a lot of high-income areas

00:39:29.960 is because of wealth disparity.

00:39:31.300 I mean,

00:39:31.480 it's like $45,000 to give birth.

00:39:33.020 The principal reason

00:39:34.020 is always cultural.

00:39:35.000 I agree.

00:39:35.640 I agree.

00:39:36.160 We live in a society

00:39:37.500 that needs to be saying,

00:39:39.400 what do you mean

00:39:39.680 you don't have kids?

00:39:40.360 That's crazy.

00:39:41.440 Instead,

00:39:41.880 we live in a society

00:39:42.300 where it's like,

00:39:42.840 don't have kids,

00:39:43.380 it's bad for the environment.

00:39:44.160 Sure,

00:39:44.340 and we kind of hate kids,

00:39:45.220 right?

00:39:45.360 There's a lot of families

00:39:46.240 that move.

00:39:47.080 It's just,

00:39:47.460 the argument would be like,

00:39:48.480 I mean,

00:39:49.340 bring up the Jews.

00:39:50.440 Israel.

00:39:52.180 Bring them up.

00:39:52.980 Israel.

00:39:53.300 One of your favorite topics.

00:39:55.780 But it's just,

00:39:56.420 to use a good example

00:39:57.140 of a high-income country

00:39:59.100 that actually has

00:40:00.160 a really strong

00:40:00.880 cultural value on family,

00:40:02.260 they have a fuckload of kids.

00:40:04.220 Those people,

00:40:04.780 they're all having

00:40:05.420 lots and lots of kids

00:40:06.440 and they're meeting

00:40:06.960 the replacement level.

00:40:08.040 And so I'm not opposed.

00:40:09.260 I agree with you.

00:40:10.040 The idea that we told

00:40:11.060 a bunch of young people,

00:40:12.280 hey,

00:40:12.420 remember how much

00:40:13.120 the boomers sucked?

00:40:14.100 You shouldn't have kids.

00:40:15.160 Your life will be better.

00:40:16.000 It turns out,

00:40:16.920 when everyone's dead and dying,

00:40:18.560 everyone says the same thing.

00:40:20.000 They wish they had

00:40:20.560 more family connections

00:40:21.420 and they wish they spent

00:40:22.300 more time with them.

00:40:23.280 Absolutely having kids matters.

00:40:24.840 But make it more affordable.

00:40:26.480 Give them tax incentives.

00:40:28.000 Incentivize the behavior

00:40:28.660 that we want to see

00:40:29.360 and encourage it.

00:40:30.100 But don't take away

00:40:30.660 women's right to vote.

00:40:31.380 That's not going to change anything.

00:40:32.360 Let me ask you a question.

00:40:32.900 Do you think a system

00:40:33.860 that cannot survive,

00:40:34.800 like,

00:40:35.800 I don't know how to ask this question,

00:40:36.980 but if a system cannot survive,

00:40:39.340 does it matter?

00:40:40.640 In the long run?

00:40:41.620 Like,

00:40:41.960 there have been very few

00:40:42.960 anarchist communes

00:40:43.920 that have existed

00:40:44.420 as forms of government,

00:40:45.260 but like Catalonia,

00:40:46.020 they get crushed immediately

00:40:46.820 by barbarians.

00:40:47.880 I don't know,

00:40:48.240 like,

00:40:48.400 does Rome matter

00:40:49.060 even though it got crushed?

00:40:49.960 Yeah,

00:40:50.240 I would say it does.

00:40:50.940 Rome was an empire with...

00:40:52.720 So was America.

00:40:54.060 Indeed.

00:40:54.740 So I'm talking about

00:40:55.440 anarchist systems

00:40:56.320 that they don't function,

00:40:59.080 they don't work.

00:40:59.560 It's this idea,

00:41:00.140 it emerges,

00:41:00.560 and immediately gets crushed.

00:41:01.280 The point I'm making is,

00:41:02.940 right now,

00:41:04.220 there is a first,

00:41:05.060 I will point out

00:41:05.600 the humor of the person on stage

00:41:07.480 in that Myron doesn't have any kids.

00:41:08.800 Right.

00:41:09.220 And Kat does.

00:41:09.940 And so Myron loses

00:41:10.780 that genetic debate.

00:41:11.360 I'm waiting.

00:41:12.320 But...

00:41:12.820 Aren't we all?

00:41:14.280 The end result of this system...

00:41:15.360 Well, I got time on like you guys.

00:41:16.680 But so the end...

00:41:17.340 That's what everyone's saying.

00:41:18.960 Yeah, I...

00:41:19.340 I'm glad I waited.

00:41:21.480 Let me finish this point.

00:41:22.340 The end result is that

00:41:24.000 liberals with these feminist sensibilities

00:41:26.480 are less likely to have kids,

00:41:28.600 more likely to abort,

00:41:29.780 and shockingly,

00:41:30.480 more likely to surgically amputate

00:41:32.100 the genitals of their children

00:41:33.100 than conservatives

00:41:34.260 who are less feminist

00:41:35.360 and more traditional.

00:41:36.560 You can do whatever

00:41:37.680 the fuck you want on TV

00:41:38.720 as long as that fertility trend continues

00:41:41.060 and it is happening.

00:41:42.960 There's going to be a collapse

00:41:44.280 of the feminist ideology

00:41:45.440 and conservatives will take over

00:41:47.660 in 50 to 60 years

00:41:48.760 because there are no liberals

00:41:49.820 being born.

00:41:51.120 But the issue is that like

00:41:52.380 typically conservatives' children

00:41:54.180 go to school

00:41:54.880 and then they're like,

00:41:55.580 wait...

00:41:56.020 And universities are shutting down.

00:41:57.760 Sure.

00:41:58.400 And Trump is gutting

00:41:59.080 the Department of Education.

00:42:00.400 Conservatives are winning this battle.

00:42:01.880 And I want to stress this too.

00:42:03.280 But aren't liberals sweatier though?

00:42:05.000 Aren't they going to get pregnant?

00:42:06.020 But I want to stress this one point

00:42:07.420 I was talking to Kyla

00:42:08.140 before the show.

00:42:09.260 On the culture war,

00:42:10.920 we may not have abject victory,

00:42:13.440 but South Park

00:42:14.420 has made fun of Donald Trump.

00:42:16.240 Now why?

00:42:17.080 Is it because

00:42:17.860 he's friends with Epstein?

00:42:19.500 No.

00:42:19.940 Is it because his tariff policy has been...

00:42:21.340 No.

00:42:21.680 It's because he's gay

00:42:22.860 and they called him a...

00:42:24.220 When South Park says

00:42:26.540 to mainstream liberals

00:42:27.980 Trump is bad

00:42:28.920 and it's because he's gay

00:42:29.880 and that's what they're making fun of,

00:42:32.180 that's a cultural shift

00:42:33.520 so far to the right

00:42:34.540 it is shocking

00:42:35.300 in a short period of time.

00:42:36.900 I mean, I would just argue

00:42:37.580 it's a shift towards the center.

00:42:39.080 Like most libertarians...

00:42:40.200 Sure.

00:42:40.400 And most...

00:42:40.780 Like as an edgy liberal,

00:42:42.020 I've always been for

00:42:42.780 like free speech and language.

00:42:43.800 I don't care if you call people

00:42:44.660 like the airport.

00:42:44.960 And Gen Z guys

00:42:46.220 are shifting rightward.

00:42:47.360 Gen Z is the first generation

00:42:48.780 in 100 years

00:42:49.420 to begin shifting rightward.

00:42:50.400 And I think a large reason,

00:42:52.520 not the only reason,

00:42:53.620 is fertility rates

00:42:55.060 which we saw in the 2000s

00:42:56.660 among liberals

00:42:57.340 at about 1.43

00:42:58.480 and conservatives 2.01

00:42:59.980 meaning in 18 years

00:43:01.960 there will be 20 or so percent

00:43:04.000 more conservatives

00:43:04.960 than liberals

00:43:05.620 based on who their parents

00:43:07.160 teaching them.

00:43:07.700 Again, but that's assuming

00:43:08.640 that these people

00:43:09.220 like don't over time

00:43:10.240 like shift back leftwards.

00:43:11.560 Right?

00:43:11.800 And I think...

00:43:12.300 Well, if I could just

00:43:13.600 respond a little bit...

00:43:14.340 I want to address that...

00:43:15.080 Sorry for talking so much

00:43:16.320 but I do want to address that point

00:43:17.100 because you mentioned it already

00:43:18.020 about the universities.

00:43:19.100 Sure.

00:43:19.280 That's why I brought up South Park.

00:43:21.100 The cultural shift is pronounced.

00:43:23.400 The liberal woke stuff

00:43:24.820 was shifted so rapidly

00:43:26.860 in the course of a couple of years

00:43:28.000 that when you mention universities

00:43:29.740 and the cultural trends

00:43:31.220 to pull conservative kids left,

00:43:32.960 that's shifted dramatically.

00:43:34.720 I agree.

00:43:35.260 But I think assuming something like

00:43:36.700 the universities are going to go away.

00:43:38.420 Like the university institution

00:43:40.160 has been around

00:43:40.700 for like 2,000 years.

00:43:42.080 I don't think universities

00:43:43.040 are going away.

00:43:44.080 And generally,

00:43:45.080 universities tend to trend left

00:43:46.580 because people who are leftward

00:43:47.840 are high openness to experience

00:43:49.120 so they tend to like things

00:43:50.020 like learning and education.

00:43:51.220 Right?

00:43:51.780 What I think is actually

00:43:52.860 more important here

00:43:53.820 is has the left failed

00:43:56.040 to indoctrinate within its culture

00:43:57.740 a value of children?

00:43:59.320 I would just say, yeah.

00:44:00.380 I think it has.

00:44:01.320 Right?

00:44:01.900 But one thing that I would

00:44:02.720 caution you towards

00:44:03.740 when you write this doomsday

00:44:05.260 of feminism leading

00:44:06.140 to the collapse,

00:44:06.820 decay of all of society,

00:44:08.180 when you look at cultural trends,

00:44:10.360 they're always ebbing

00:44:11.380 and flowing back and forth

00:44:12.600 because one side starts winning

00:44:13.900 the culture war

00:44:14.660 and the political war.

00:44:15.580 They get too much power.

00:44:16.980 They become kind of assholes

00:44:18.000 because a lot of us

00:44:18.700 are assholes with power.

00:44:19.840 And then the other side

00:44:20.540 kind of populates

00:44:21.300 and becomes more popular again.

00:44:22.700 Right?

00:44:22.860 And we've seen this dance

00:44:24.060 back and forth

00:44:24.860 between left and right

00:44:26.280 winning the culture war

00:44:27.820 and leading all the time.

00:44:29.300 This is kind of

00:44:29.820 what democracy is.

00:44:30.560 In fact,

00:44:30.820 that's the fundamentals

00:44:31.640 of what democracy is.

00:44:32.860 And so I don't think

00:44:33.760 that we should be looking

00:44:34.480 at feminism going,

00:44:35.540 this is going to lead

00:44:36.200 to the death

00:44:36.680 and decay of society.

00:44:37.820 We should go,

00:44:38.580 what parts of it are bad?

00:44:39.900 What parts of the institutions

00:44:40.980 are bad?

00:44:41.760 What things need to be corrected

00:44:43.000 and how do we correct them?

00:44:44.360 Because so far,

00:44:45.500 the miracle of the American project

00:44:46.880 is pretty damn fucking good.

00:44:48.580 It's actually the best thing

00:44:49.700 that's ever happened

00:44:50.380 in human history,

00:44:51.380 probably ever.

00:44:52.600 Okay?

00:44:52.980 We love America.

00:44:54.100 That's pretty nuanced.

00:44:54.980 I think that's the correct answer.

00:44:56.240 Give it up for Nassirida.

00:44:57.200 I think we can agree with that.

00:44:58.260 That's pretty nuanced.

00:44:58.920 It is a good answer,

00:44:59.780 but I do want to make one point

00:45:00.960 that's going on right now

00:45:02.440 with Washington, D.C.

00:45:03.420 is, and it's not,

00:45:05.180 you know, Trump focuses on D.C.,

00:45:06.820 but Chicago, all these big cities.

00:45:08.800 Like the cities?

00:45:09.340 Okay.

00:45:09.620 It's insane how disgusting

00:45:10.860 and crime-ridden our cities

00:45:11.820 have become.

00:45:12.440 I mean, we saw a tent city

00:45:13.640 on the way here,

00:45:14.720 and there's two questions.

00:45:16.040 Why does the city allow this?

00:45:17.740 And I don't mean

00:45:18.440 to forcefully remove people

00:45:20.160 with no choice.

00:45:21.300 You can make the liberal argument

00:45:22.400 of why are they not trying

00:45:23.700 to help these people

00:45:24.340 to solve that problem,

00:45:25.120 or the conservative argument,

00:45:26.300 why are they allowing people

00:45:26.960 to camp on their street?

00:45:28.320 Probably both.

00:45:28.840 Yeah, and we've got to get to people,

00:45:30.040 and one thing we didn't talk about,

00:45:31.160 but one point I wanted to make earlier,

00:45:32.560 the aspect of trans people

00:45:35.580 taking, no, seriously,

00:45:37.180 taking over women's space,

00:45:38.260 because you don't think

00:45:39.060 that trans women

00:45:40.760 are a threat to actual femininity

00:45:42.480 or whatever?

00:45:42.940 I mean, like a trans person

00:45:45.160 going into a woman's restroom.

00:45:46.800 Like, isn't that against feminism?

00:45:47.520 I'm just for co-ed restrooms,

00:45:48.900 because if you've ever seen

00:45:50.000 like men's bathrooms versus,

00:45:51.380 yeah, if you've ever,

00:45:52.480 travel, get a passport,

00:45:53.680 I promise.

00:45:54.580 In Europe, they have mostly,

00:45:55.840 oftentimes, co-ed bathrooms,

00:45:57.220 and one of the best things about it.

00:45:58.640 They have like nightclubs.

00:45:59.560 No, no, no, like on public streets,

00:46:01.320 like all through Venice and stuff.

00:46:02.560 I remember going to co-ed bathrooms

00:46:03.840 in the UK, like in France,

00:46:05.400 it was like totally normal.

00:46:07.080 Surprise, surprise.

00:46:08.240 France, yes, in France.

00:46:09.940 And one thing that I would

00:46:10.860 actually point out here

00:46:11.560 is if you've ever seen the lines

00:46:13.140 between like the male bathroom

00:46:14.260 and the woman bathroom,

00:46:15.100 it would be great

00:46:15.560 if we were sharing the same space, okay?

00:46:17.060 We're having to get through

00:46:17.720 the bathroom way fucking fast.

00:46:18.640 I'm actually, hold on, I'm sorry.

00:46:20.220 I'm very, I'm very passionate about this.

00:46:22.580 I'm very passionate about this.

00:46:24.320 Sometimes the woman's bathroom

00:46:25.760 is fucking disgusting

00:46:26.700 because women will not sit on the seat.

00:46:29.200 If you could just sit,

00:46:30.480 everyone could sit.

00:46:31.760 They like hover over

00:46:32.980 and they, like,

00:46:34.200 it looks like they were hula hooping

00:46:35.760 and pissing all over the place.

00:46:37.440 It's disgusting.

00:46:38.840 It could just be...

00:46:39.620 These guys really want you to know

00:46:40.660 how dirty they're about.

00:46:41.580 Yeah, no, I'm sure they are,

00:46:43.580 but you'd be...

00:46:44.280 If we could just sit,

00:46:45.840 then we could all sit.

00:46:46.760 See, men are better at everything,

00:46:48.320 even bathrooms.

00:46:49.300 We could all sit.

00:46:49.700 We're better at everything,

00:46:50.600 even bathrooms.

00:46:51.300 They can't even pee correctly.

00:46:52.780 Well, I didn't say that, but...

00:46:54.080 She's crazy.

00:46:55.000 I'm telling you guys.

00:46:56.020 There was this,

00:46:56.540 there was a very funny story.

00:46:57.500 Prove my point.

00:46:58.160 Real quick,

00:46:58.620 we're gonna go to the audience,

00:47:00.740 but there was a really funny story

00:47:01.660 where this woman

00:47:02.280 was an Antarctic researcher

00:47:03.460 complaining about sexism

00:47:05.220 because she couldn't stand up

00:47:06.320 and piss in Antarctica.

00:47:07.860 And so she was insisting

00:47:08.920 that the U.S. spend research...

00:47:10.680 Like, the research grant money

00:47:12.080 on building outhouses

00:47:13.340 in the middle of Antarctica

00:47:14.300 because it was sexist

00:47:15.480 that men could unzip

00:47:16.460 and release,

00:47:17.240 and she couldn't,

00:47:18.400 and she didn't think it was...

00:47:19.480 She didn't want to use

00:47:20.060 one of those funnels.

00:47:20.820 They have the funnel, yeah.

00:47:21.980 I don't know.

00:47:22.060 Anyway, my mom used one for years.

00:47:24.320 We're not spending one an hour.

00:47:25.240 The penis tech is a good tech,

00:47:27.000 I will say.

00:47:27.540 That shit of spraying around,

00:47:28.720 that's pretty cool.

00:47:29.420 All right, guys.

00:47:30.100 This has been a good debate so far.

00:47:31.900 Yeah, I got the list right here.

00:47:33.480 Okay, guys,

00:47:33.940 so what we're gonna do

00:47:34.440 is we're gonna pick some names,

00:47:35.580 and you're gonna immediately

00:47:36.160 haul ass to this side of the stage

00:47:38.360 where I'm pointing.

00:47:39.400 We're gonna have a microphone.

00:47:40.420 If you're good for a minute,

00:47:41.400 we might bring you on stage.

00:47:42.420 If you suck,

00:47:43.100 we're gonna make you sit down, okay?

00:47:44.720 So, even though the order...

00:47:46.320 Now you know what Alex

00:47:46.860 thinks about you.

00:47:47.400 Yeah, I mean, you know,

00:47:48.300 I'm just gonna be open

00:47:49.160 and honest, guys.

00:47:50.280 All right, so our first person

00:47:51.620 that we're calling is...

00:47:53.140 Let's go from the list.

00:47:53.980 Yeah, yeah, we are.

00:47:55.340 Armand Gupta.

00:47:56.480 Where's Armand Gupta?

00:47:57.500 Oh, I remember this guy.

00:47:59.340 I think Alex could have

00:48:00.020 come to the first one.

00:48:00.520 No, I think I'm gonna kick him off.

00:48:01.800 Yeah, Armand.

00:48:02.860 Is Armand Gupta here?

00:48:06.120 Armand, is Armand...

00:48:06.640 I can't see anything

00:48:07.300 because I like to show right.

00:48:09.000 Is he here?

00:48:10.320 I guess he's not here.

00:48:10.980 Okay, well then...

00:48:11.620 All right, I like this person.

00:48:14.480 Ava Terry.

00:48:15.460 Is Ava Terry here?

00:48:17.420 Ava, come on down.

00:48:18.320 Right here, too.

00:48:18.800 Look at this.

00:48:19.700 Rapid response.

00:48:21.100 All right, Ava,

00:48:21.440 you got one minute.

00:48:22.320 Okay, it's Ava.

00:48:23.900 Nice to see you guys.

00:48:26.000 My first thing I would like to say

00:48:27.340 is the man on the far left over here,

00:48:31.340 what was your name again?

00:48:32.760 Myron?

00:48:33.120 Myron.

00:48:33.500 Myron, yeah.

00:48:34.460 I would just like to say

00:48:35.240 that your rhetoric sounds exactly

00:48:36.620 like third wave radical feminism,

00:48:38.140 but for a man.

00:48:39.440 And I was just wondering

00:48:40.260 how you expect to solve a problem

00:48:42.420 by doing the exact same thing

00:48:44.820 that you think is the problem.

00:48:46.780 Well, because when men have monopoly of power,

00:48:49.220 good things happen.

00:48:49.980 Women have it.

00:48:50.960 Society crumbles.

00:48:51.280 Come on up, come on up, Ava.

00:48:52.400 That's good.

00:48:52.920 She's smart.

00:48:53.440 No, the other way.

00:48:53.900 Just come this way.

00:48:54.520 No, this way.

00:48:55.560 Come on down.

00:48:57.040 I like it when she...

00:48:57.880 No, this is spicy.

00:48:58.540 Yeah, she's...

00:48:58.840 Making fun of Myron.

00:49:00.040 Ava, Ava, give it up.

00:49:01.280 Ava.

00:49:02.180 All right.

00:49:03.060 Ava or Ava.

00:49:04.180 Ava.

00:49:04.540 Ava.

00:49:05.140 Ava.

00:49:06.100 Like from Wallow.

00:49:07.560 How are you?

00:49:08.540 Is it Ava or Igua?

00:49:10.440 Ava.

00:49:11.020 Ava, okay.

00:49:12.180 So explain why Myron was wrong again.

00:49:15.620 She said I'm radical, basically.

00:49:17.420 Well, I would just...

00:49:18.340 I just think that your rhetoric

00:49:19.540 is exactly the same thing that you hate.

00:49:21.720 Okay.

00:49:22.360 And I was wondering

00:49:23.460 how you think that's going to solve the problem.

00:49:26.580 If women hating men

00:49:27.860 is what has caused this problem

00:49:29.260 in the first place,

00:49:30.640 how is men hating women going to fix it?

00:49:33.380 Yeah, so it's not us hating you guys.

00:49:35.000 It's just us realizing

00:49:36.000 that you guys are not equal to us

00:49:37.240 and we have to be the custodians of women.

00:49:39.320 We have to protect and provide for you guys.

00:49:40.720 I'm actually very big

00:49:42.020 into a traditional relationship

00:49:43.080 where the man is the leader

00:49:43.820 of protection, provides for his woman

00:49:45.020 and all she has to worry about

00:49:45.980 is making sandwiches

00:49:46.740 and taking care of the kids.

00:49:48.040 And I think that's how societies

00:49:49.000 thrive for a long time.

00:49:50.180 So it's actually the contrary.

00:49:51.140 I think men need to protect women

00:49:52.260 from themselves a lot of the times

00:49:53.400 because I don't think

00:49:54.180 women in positions of power

00:49:55.560 leads to a great society.

00:49:57.500 So one other thing

00:49:58.440 that you said earlier was that

00:49:59.940 men being in power

00:50:02.280 has led to a great history.

00:50:04.340 Yes.

00:50:04.800 Do you think that the history

00:50:05.860 of men being in power is flawless?

00:50:08.340 No, there's always going to be flaws

00:50:09.460 with human error in general.

00:50:10.520 So human error in general,

00:50:11.600 that includes men and women.

00:50:12.700 And why would women

00:50:13.860 have more error than men?

00:50:15.660 Well, here's the thing.

00:50:16.800 We don't have any matriarchies

00:50:18.320 that have stood the test of time, really.

00:50:19.820 Everything that's been successful

00:50:20.960 has been a patriarchy.

00:50:22.520 Except for beehives.

00:50:23.560 And there's a bunch of beehives.

00:50:25.100 We're not bees.

00:50:26.080 We're not bees.

00:50:27.300 I hate stuff like that.

00:50:28.000 Except for bees.

00:50:29.000 We're not bees.

00:50:29.940 No, no, no.

00:50:30.280 Sorry, Ava.

00:50:31.000 We're not bees.

00:50:32.120 Wait, but if we just granted

00:50:33.520 your evolutionary argument

00:50:34.620 of development,

00:50:35.540 yeah, patriarchies have been

00:50:36.560 the most competitive.

00:50:37.460 And now what we're seeing

00:50:38.460 is that an egalitarian society

00:50:39.860 that includes women

00:50:40.720 in the workforce

00:50:41.480 and the right to vote

00:50:42.180 are the most successful societies

00:50:43.900 in modern...

00:50:44.380 It seems like we've just

00:50:45.460 continued to advance

00:50:46.460 and the next level of advancement

00:50:47.600 is the inclusion of women.

00:50:49.200 No.

00:50:49.700 I don't think...

00:50:50.100 I don't know what to tell you.

00:50:50.860 History disagrees.

00:50:51.620 No.

00:50:52.420 Again, feminism has led

00:50:53.860 to so many problems

00:50:54.920 with this whole egalitarianism

00:50:56.740 because, again...

00:50:58.040 So Saudi Arabia

00:50:58.720 is better than America.

00:50:59.680 I'm sorry?

00:51:00.180 Saudi Arabia is better than America.

00:51:01.500 We're back here.

00:51:01.960 You are correct about that,

00:51:03.040 but they have some things

00:51:04.000 in better check than we do

00:51:04.980 when it comes to dealing

00:51:05.720 with their women, right?

00:51:06.840 But yes,

00:51:07.780 to go back to what we're saying,

00:51:09.420 I think a male-led society

00:51:10.560 is going to fare off

00:51:11.280 a lot better

00:51:11.660 than a female-led society

00:51:12.700 is my point.

00:51:13.520 Everything is going to be

00:51:14.220 prone to human error,

00:51:15.000 but I think when men

00:51:15.900 are in charge,

00:51:16.380 there's going to be less error.

00:51:17.200 I would just say to that

00:51:24.200 that throughout history,

00:51:28.100 and you think about

00:51:29.020 all of the major wars

00:51:30.560 and everything,

00:51:32.160 are we in a significantly

00:51:33.640 different place

00:51:34.520 on a world cultural scale

00:51:36.080 than men-led societies?

00:51:39.340 I'm a little confused

00:51:40.280 by your question.

00:51:41.020 Are you saying like are we...

00:51:42.400 With women having

00:51:43.220 the right to vote,

00:51:44.120 has that changed?

00:51:46.020 Have there been more wars

00:51:47.260 since women have been

00:51:49.160 given the right to vote?

00:51:50.680 I think yes.

00:51:52.260 In the United States?

00:51:53.700 And without declaration of war.

00:51:55.800 Yeah, are you saying like

00:51:56.520 in the United States?

00:51:57.400 Yeah, you can make the argument.

00:51:58.340 Yeah.

00:51:58.720 I mean, again,

00:52:00.280 my thing is,

00:52:02.280 I think that men

00:52:03.620 are better than women

00:52:04.560 in everything that matters,

00:52:05.720 and I think men

00:52:06.240 need to lead society,

00:52:07.120 and I think women

00:52:07.620 should be focusing

00:52:08.700 on having children

00:52:09.580 and families

00:52:10.140 versus chasing a career.

00:52:11.340 And if we are going to allow them

00:52:12.280 to go ahead and chase a career,

00:52:13.420 let's at least be honest with them

00:52:14.520 and let them know

00:52:15.100 that this is going to come

00:52:16.200 with some very serious consequences

00:52:17.520 that might lead

00:52:18.520 to your long-term sorrow,

00:52:19.940 sadness,

00:52:20.560 antidepressant medication,

00:52:22.060 et cetera.

00:52:22.440 I just don't think

00:52:22.960 that we're honest with women

00:52:24.000 about where they stand.

00:52:25.400 Would you have children

00:52:26.400 through an artificial womb?

00:52:28.160 No.

00:52:29.780 If men are so much

00:52:30.640 better than women,

00:52:31.300 then why are they failing

00:52:32.120 so much at things

00:52:32.800 like education

00:52:33.480 and achieving

00:52:34.000 high-status jobs?

00:52:35.540 Why are women...

00:52:35.920 Because the education system

00:52:36.880 is literally geared towards women.

00:52:37.980 So women have been

00:52:38.740 more powerful...

00:52:39.060 Sitting down and being submissive

00:52:39.740 and listening to someone lecture you.

00:52:41.040 I just...

00:52:41.400 I don't...

00:52:41.680 Hold on.

00:52:42.300 Hold on.

00:52:42.600 Hold on.

00:52:43.080 Hold on.

00:52:43.480 But hold on.

00:52:45.460 Career-wise,

00:52:46.820 almost most of the Fortune 500 companies

00:52:49.200 are run by men.

00:52:49.860 I agree.

00:52:50.440 But the issue is that

00:52:51.600 if men are so much better than women,

00:52:53.160 then how are we in this position

00:52:54.220 where suddenly men are also

00:52:56.040 being destroyed by society

00:52:57.840 and crushed by them?

00:52:58.640 We can't have these two

00:52:59.740 mutually exclusive things

00:53:00.800 at the same time.

00:53:01.500 What I would actually argue

00:53:02.400 is that men are stupid

00:53:03.660 in a lot of stupid ways.

00:53:04.900 You guys punch things.

00:53:05.980 Stop doing that.

00:53:06.800 You guys masturbate all the time.

00:53:08.800 Stop doing that.

00:53:09.580 Chill out.

00:53:09.900 Women masturbate, too.

00:53:11.300 Women, but a lot fucking less.

00:53:13.520 A lot fucking less.

00:53:14.760 Battery-powered dildo.

00:53:16.580 I think you guys masturbate a lot.

00:53:17.160 Billions to be made.

00:53:18.180 Nobody's going to make the argument

00:53:19.340 that porn is more...

00:53:19.960 In fact, the WNBA

00:53:20.800 has just become the dildo show.

00:53:22.600 Yes!

00:53:23.360 Sure.

00:53:23.640 More dildos in the WNBA!

00:53:27.620 Sure.

00:53:28.200 But nobody would argue

00:53:29.160 that women are actually

00:53:29.980 consuming more porn than men.

00:53:31.180 Porn is obviously

00:53:31.920 dominantly male-consumed

00:53:33.160 and male-only fans

00:53:33.960 as mostly purchased for by men.

00:53:36.140 Okay?

00:53:36.820 Yeah.

00:53:37.340 Sad men.

00:53:38.040 But I do want to stress this point.

00:53:40.520 Goddamn juice.

00:53:41.100 There's an argument.

00:53:41.920 There's an argument.

00:53:42.480 Come up.

00:53:42.920 Come up.

00:53:43.640 Submit your name, guys,

00:53:44.560 if you want to talk to me.

00:53:45.720 Greater male variability hypothesis.

00:53:48.460 There are a shitload

00:53:49.580 of really shitty guys,

00:53:51.040 but there's a smaller amount

00:53:52.880 of substantially more successful,

00:53:55.060 intelligent, and strong guys

00:53:56.280 than women.

00:53:58.400 This is like the hypergamy argument.

00:54:00.420 It's the greater male variability hypothesis.

00:54:02.180 Oh, yeah.

00:54:02.400 I would agree.

00:54:03.160 When you look at the extreme ends

00:54:04.980 of genetics, right,

00:54:06.040 men tend to be the stupidest

00:54:07.700 and the smartest, right?

00:54:08.600 Like, if you look at

00:54:09.200 the lowest IQ individuals,

00:54:10.960 sorry, guys, it's men.

00:54:12.220 But when you look at

00:54:12.780 the highest IQ individuals,

00:54:14.720 it's also men, right?

00:54:15.740 Women are a lot more stable

00:54:16.820 in a lot of things,

00:54:17.480 which is, I think,

00:54:17.940 one of the things that,

00:54:18.820 yes, stable.

00:54:19.860 For example,

00:54:20.480 their bell curve

00:54:21.180 is more flattened, right?

00:54:22.600 You're not going to get

00:54:23.240 the extreme ends

00:54:24.000 on either side,

00:54:24.580 which is good for society.

00:54:25.760 Let me ask you a question.

00:54:26.700 Is it better for society

00:54:27.940 to be led by the smartest individuals?

00:54:31.020 Not always necessarily.

00:54:32.300 Like, this idea of, like,

00:54:33.400 as a stupider individual?

00:54:34.400 Well, no, like,

00:54:35.160 mostly virtuous.

00:54:37.060 I want the society

00:54:37.920 to be led by...

00:54:38.060 No, no, no, irrespective of virtue,

00:54:39.060 let's assume that we're aiming

00:54:40.400 for virtuous people.

00:54:41.720 Would we...

00:54:42.160 Of the virtuous people

00:54:44.160 we've identified,

00:54:45.000 we want the smartest of them.

00:54:45.960 Well, I want to answer this one.

00:54:46.860 I would just say we have...

00:54:47.500 Well, because there's

00:54:48.360 two parts of our brain.

00:54:49.080 There's the logical part,

00:54:49.900 there's the emotional part.

00:54:50.180 I got to ask this question.

00:54:52.640 He wants to appeal

00:54:53.320 to my feelings, too.

00:54:54.980 Let's say we've looked

00:54:56.040 at the most virtuous people

00:54:57.060 in the country.

00:54:57.700 Yeah.

00:54:57.900 Would we want to choose

00:54:59.440 the smartest of them

00:55:00.200 to be our leaders?

00:55:01.640 Assuming that they're, like,

00:55:02.540 actually qualified,

00:55:03.660 sure, I suppose.

00:55:05.260 Like aptitude.

00:55:06.240 Let's say aptitude.

00:55:06.960 Yeah, sure.

00:55:07.620 The highest aptitude.

00:55:08.720 I just think that

00:55:09.200 for the most part

00:55:09.760 when it comes to leadership,

00:55:10.600 it's more about a prerequisite,

00:55:11.800 which is a really high prerequisite,

00:55:13.160 but then after that,

00:55:13.960 humans actually exist.

00:55:14.860 Sure.

00:55:15.380 When you look at

00:55:16.000 Fortune 500 companies,

00:55:17.680 with or without feminism,

00:55:18.780 the only way to get parity

00:55:20.280 of female leaders

00:55:21.260 is through force.

00:55:22.380 I don't want parity.

00:55:22.960 It's through social force.

00:55:23.680 I don't want parity.

00:55:24.140 I'm not saying you do.

00:55:24.780 I'm just making this point

00:55:25.820 that with the greater

00:55:27.100 male variability hypothesis,

00:55:29.000 you are going to see

00:55:29.640 most world leaders

00:55:30.440 will always be men.

00:55:31.580 Most CEOs will always be men.

00:55:33.340 The top physical performers

00:55:34.340 will be men.

00:55:35.060 Most of the homeless

00:55:35.700 will be men.

00:55:36.320 Most of the drug addicted

00:55:36.940 and most criminals

00:55:37.800 will also be men.

00:55:38.100 Indeed.

00:55:38.720 The point I'm making

00:55:39.140 is there are very,

00:55:39.840 very few positions

00:55:40.460 of power and authority,

00:55:41.740 and because there are going

00:55:43.560 to be a greater,

00:55:44.260 there's a greater male variability

00:55:45.620 and aptitude,

00:55:46.480 you will always see

00:55:47.500 these positions

00:55:47.800 as dominated by men.

00:55:49.120 However,

00:55:49.940 modern feminism,

00:55:50.860 especially throughout

00:55:51.280 the past 80 years or so,

00:55:52.640 always,

00:55:53.020 has said it's a patriarchy

00:55:54.420 run by men.

00:55:55.140 No, it's a system

00:55:56.080 run by those most capable

00:55:57.220 that happen to be men.

00:55:58.640 Well, I want to make

00:55:59.440 this argument,

00:55:59.800 and it's an oversimplification,

00:56:01.420 but basically our brain

00:56:02.420 has two hemispheres,

00:56:03.320 right and left,

00:56:03.840 and there's one

00:56:04.320 that they consider

00:56:04.940 more emotional

00:56:05.520 and one that's more logical,

00:56:07.640 and that they say

00:56:08.400 men use the logical side

00:56:09.540 and women use

00:56:10.080 the emotional side more,

00:56:11.040 and I would argue

00:56:11.720 that if you're more

00:56:12.800 emotionally intelligent,

00:56:14.000 that could make up

00:56:14.760 for your logical intelligence.

00:56:15.940 So even though you're not

00:56:16.880 like a brainiac,

00:56:18.560 a woman that has smart,

00:56:20.280 emotional intelligence

00:56:21.160 can be just as successful.

00:56:22.720 You don't agree?

00:56:23.040 Trying to open your phone.

00:56:23.780 I know, I'm just saying,

00:56:24.600 you don't agree that how that can,

00:56:25.900 or I guess Myron,

00:56:26.700 I mean, you don't think

00:56:27.160 that that can overcome

00:56:28.040 for logical intelligence,

00:56:29.380 emotional intelligence?

00:56:30.280 That's not a thing.

00:56:30.900 Well, that is a thing.

00:56:32.240 There's emotional stability

00:56:33.620 and rationality.

00:56:34.260 There's emotional intelligence,

00:56:35.320 that's a real thing,

00:56:35.880 yeah, because it makes it

00:56:36.540 like when somebody provokes you,

00:56:38.000 whether you react,

00:56:38.860 men are more reactionary,

00:56:39.980 women are less reactionary,

00:56:40.940 so the emotional part

00:56:41.720 of your brain

00:56:42.100 is actually very important.

00:56:43.220 Even when you're driving,

00:56:44.400 like if you get mad in road rage,

00:56:46.000 like yes.

00:56:46.280 That's just more greater

00:56:47.040 male variability of stuff.

00:56:48.660 Like the guys

00:56:49.380 who are going to be the best

00:56:50.000 are going to be calm,

00:56:50.900 reasoned,

00:56:51.360 and the same thing

00:56:51.800 is true for women,

00:56:52.680 but there will be

00:56:53.260 more men than women.

00:56:54.120 But on average,

00:56:54.800 women are more reasonable

00:56:56.700 than men because they use

00:56:58.020 the-

00:56:58.120 Agreeable.

00:56:58.940 Agreeable,

00:56:59.260 whatever you want to say.

00:57:00.800 Agreeable is really,

00:57:02.140 really important

00:57:02.540 when you predict

00:57:03.120 for people who are

00:57:03.780 rising to the top

00:57:04.640 of organizing people.

00:57:06.180 Agreeability

00:57:06.540 and the ability

00:57:07.180 to work with others

00:57:08.040 is an essential part,

00:57:09.260 particularly of our

00:57:10.120 modern economy.

00:57:11.620 I disagree.

00:57:12.140 That's how you get

00:57:12.660 a bunch of yes men

00:57:13.320 circle jerking each other.

00:57:14.400 No, not at all.

00:57:15.380 Being agreeable

00:57:15.920 doesn't mean

00:57:16.280 they don't have boundaries,

00:57:17.200 right?

00:57:17.400 Being agreeable means

00:57:18.300 that you can see

00:57:19.180 what the priorities are

00:57:20.240 and you can try

00:57:20.840 to work together

00:57:21.360 and find cohesiveness.

00:57:22.540 I don't know what to tell you

00:57:23.360 when it comes to

00:57:24.000 some of the best managers

00:57:25.200 and some of the best

00:57:26.040 high senior VPs.

00:57:27.680 The reality is that

00:57:28.600 agreeableness predicts

00:57:29.720 really strongly for this.

00:57:30.980 The only people

00:57:31.640 where disagreeableness

00:57:32.360 predicts is typically

00:57:33.360 for the CEO.

00:57:34.120 But again,

00:57:34.480 I don't have an issue

00:57:35.200 with men being CEOs

00:57:36.360 necessarily.

00:57:36.980 I would just like to say

00:57:38.440 I'm not for the infantilization

00:57:40.980 of women in any capacity.

00:57:42.900 Whether that's women,

00:57:44.120 I just would like it

00:57:45.060 to be a level playing field

00:57:46.100 in terms of some women

00:57:47.260 will go out

00:57:48.300 and be successful

00:57:49.100 and have very successful

00:57:50.420 high earning careers

00:57:51.400 such as myself.

00:57:55.320 But without needing

00:57:57.320 to be like calling my dad

00:57:58.820 to ask if I can fuck a guy

00:57:59.880 or whatever it is

00:58:00.440 that Myron wants.

00:58:01.160 Either side of that

00:58:03.320 infantilization

00:58:04.160 I'm against.

00:58:05.100 I'm a human being

00:58:06.100 with agency.

00:58:07.860 If you ask your dad.

00:58:08.740 If I ask my dad.

00:58:09.800 Because you said that before,

00:58:11.100 right?

00:58:11.280 Like mating decisions.

00:58:12.420 So should I call my dad

00:58:13.280 and ask if I can fuck

00:58:14.040 or should I just call my dad

00:58:14.860 and ask if he has to pull out?

00:58:16.000 Well, my thing is

00:58:17.600 you should be calling your dad.

00:58:18.520 Well,

00:58:19.640 you just expose yourself

00:58:20.500 as a 304

00:58:21.160 but that's fine.

00:58:21.940 I mean,

00:58:22.340 I think you should be

00:58:22.960 That's okay.

00:58:23.380 You can sit and call

00:58:24.340 a married woman

00:58:25.040 with a child a hoe.

00:58:26.440 That says a lot more

00:58:27.340 about you

00:58:27.720 than it does about me, baby.

00:58:28.560 Well, you're the one

00:58:29.060 making crash jokes

00:58:30.220 so I'm jumping in with you.

00:58:31.360 So the point is

00:58:32.160 is that I think

00:58:32.800 the father should actually

00:58:33.840 be involved.

00:58:34.040 That's a crash joke

00:58:35.740 I think the father

00:58:36.840 should be involved

00:58:37.800 actually in the mating

00:58:38.740 process with a woman.

00:58:39.680 I think the dad

00:58:40.180 should actually be

00:58:40.900 intimately involved

00:58:41.500 with picking the guy

00:58:42.400 because when women

00:58:43.060 are left to own devices

00:58:43.960 Hey dad, can I fuck?

00:58:44.720 That is kind of weird.

00:58:45.780 All right, guys.

00:58:46.120 Should he pull out?

00:58:48.140 Does he like hold your hand

00:58:49.240 while you're doing it?

00:58:49.880 That's the future you want?

00:58:51.500 Is he pushing his asses

00:58:52.840 a little bit more to help?

00:58:53.720 See, here we go.

00:58:54.440 She's not even going

00:58:55.120 to let me speak.

00:58:55.820 It's very simple.

00:58:57.000 So I actually think

00:58:58.340 that fathers should be involved

00:58:59.580 in their daughters

00:59:00.400 mating decisions

00:59:01.820 because here's the thing

00:59:02.840 with women.

00:59:03.580 You guys tend to pick

00:59:04.440 the bad boy

00:59:05.240 or the guy that might not

00:59:06.100 necessarily be the best

00:59:07.080 long-term suitor

00:59:07.860 when you're at your

00:59:08.580 highest value.

00:59:09.260 So when the father comes

00:59:10.060 in, he's able to assess

00:59:10.900 this guy and be like,

00:59:11.500 no, this guy doesn't

00:59:12.320 really want you for you.

00:59:13.400 He just wants to use you

00:59:14.140 for sex.

00:59:14.820 I don't want this guy.

00:59:15.600 I'm going to go find you

00:59:16.300 another guy that's going

00:59:16.880 to actually love you

00:59:18.320 and be with you

00:59:18.860 long-term and provision.

00:59:19.820 I will say that I have

00:59:22.000 women are able to make

00:59:23.140 their own decisions.

00:59:23.740 They do dumb shit.

00:59:24.940 So it is what it is.

00:59:26.340 It's like when the farmer

00:59:27.440 dad chases the guy

00:59:28.560 out of the house

00:59:28.940 with a shotgun saying,

00:59:29.860 get away from my daughter.

00:59:30.640 No, it's like when

00:59:31.280 Hulk Hogan called

00:59:32.340 Brooke Hogan's boyfriend.

00:59:33.240 We got him in that.

00:59:34.260 Yeah, next person.

00:59:36.040 Real quick, come up

00:59:36.720 to the stage.

00:59:37.460 We got Carly Nocta.

00:59:39.580 Carly Nocta.

00:59:40.500 Are you here?

00:59:41.080 Carly Nocta?

00:59:42.860 What?

00:59:43.360 Okay, no Carly Nocta.

00:59:44.920 These people were like,

00:59:45.500 I want to come up and debate,

00:59:46.340 but I'm not going to show up.

00:59:46.940 Yeah, all right.

00:59:47.860 Our next person,

00:59:48.800 Jay Zollers.

00:59:49.760 Is Jay Zollers here?

00:59:50.980 Jay, get your ass up here.

00:59:52.380 I see you getting up.

00:59:53.100 Give it up for Jay.

00:59:53.980 Is that a beer?

00:59:54.720 He's got a beer.

00:59:55.660 I hope he's drunk.

00:59:56.560 I hope he's wasted.

00:59:59.860 Come on down, Jay.

01:00:01.000 Alex, you want him

01:00:01.620 straight up on stage?

01:00:02.660 No, no, no, no.

01:00:03.360 Let's see what he's got.

01:00:04.560 This guy's drunk, probably.

01:00:05.980 Come on.

01:00:08.320 All right, as there's

01:00:09.380 obviously a fertility crisis

01:00:11.000 all across the world,

01:00:12.900 Japan, Korea,

01:00:13.760 United States, everything,

01:00:15.200 there should be certain

01:00:15.900 things that need to be

01:00:16.760 implemented to fix that.

01:00:18.480 But let's be honest.

01:00:19.440 Should people who do not

01:00:20.640 have children

01:00:21.280 collect Social Security?

01:00:23.860 Or should they be banned

01:00:24.680 from getting Social Security

01:00:25.880 at the end of the day?

01:00:27.080 What?

01:00:27.760 Make that a requirement

01:00:28.700 for Social Security

01:00:29.700 as having kids.

01:00:30.980 That's retarded.

01:00:31.960 Who cares?

01:00:36.160 Okay, you got something

01:00:36.960 better than that?

01:00:37.520 Let's go.

01:00:37.820 Oh, no, man.

01:00:38.900 Just enjoy the time.

01:00:39.620 All right, go sit down, Jay.

01:00:40.560 Go sit down.

01:00:41.120 Thank you.

01:00:41.440 He was married.

01:00:42.220 He was married.

01:00:42.740 I was like,

01:00:43.520 you have a good day.

01:00:44.420 Give it up.

01:00:44.940 Give it up.

01:00:45.240 It is a good point.

01:00:46.820 I didn't see that one coming.

01:00:47.580 It is a good point,

01:00:48.360 but it's very granular

01:00:49.020 to the whole debate

01:00:49.760 that the system

01:00:51.360 that we have now

01:00:51.900 is overly compassionate

01:00:53.640 to the point of detriment.

01:00:56.780 Well, I got the next person

01:00:58.000 I'm calling up.

01:00:58.900 She can come straight up here.

01:00:59.920 Amber Duke.

01:01:00.640 Let's go.

01:01:00.920 Where's Amber Duke?

01:01:01.520 Come on.

01:01:02.460 Amber.

01:01:03.340 Come on down, Amber.

01:01:05.340 Amber's a beast.

01:01:06.140 I'm curious to see

01:01:07.760 what side she's going to take, though.

01:01:09.420 Did they autograph the mustard?

01:01:10.420 There's so much nuance, though.

01:01:11.420 Okay.

01:01:12.220 See, that is the thing.

01:01:13.840 Myron, that's the only complaint

01:01:15.360 that I really have, though,

01:01:16.100 is that I do think

01:01:16.820 it is a nuanced situation, right?

01:01:18.880 Like, women aren't all retarded.

01:01:21.240 No.

01:01:21.560 You know?

01:01:21.860 Just a lot of them.

01:01:22.480 Just a majority out there.

01:01:24.100 A lot of them.

01:01:24.880 My husband would agree with you,

01:01:26.300 but I had a question.

01:01:28.440 Smart guy.

01:01:28.960 Are you religious?

01:01:30.100 No.

01:01:30.520 Okay.

01:01:30.980 I was just curious

01:01:31.800 because I explained

01:01:32.280 a lot of your comments,

01:01:33.680 but I actually wanted

01:01:34.700 to challenge you

01:01:35.420 on your claim

01:01:35.960 that women don't have empathy.

01:01:37.600 Okay, sure.

01:01:38.420 I actually think

01:01:39.380 the problem...

01:01:39.520 Let me clarify, though.

01:01:40.540 When I talk about empathy,

01:01:41.380 I mean as in

01:01:41.860 to the masculine experience

01:01:42.900 and how men...

01:01:43.840 Oh, it's okay.

01:01:44.620 To us, because...

01:01:46.000 And this is why

01:01:46.300 so many women struggle

01:01:47.100 with keeping a guy long-term.

01:01:48.380 Like, men have to understand

01:01:49.600 women to get laid.

01:01:50.540 Women don't have to understand

01:01:51.460 us to get laid.

01:01:52.240 Okay.

01:01:52.500 Does that make sense?

01:01:52.980 Sure.

01:01:53.240 Isn't it that men

01:01:53.620 can't keep a woman long-term

01:01:54.680 since they're the ones

01:01:55.320 divorcing him?

01:01:56.340 What was that?

01:01:56.640 Isn't it that men

01:01:57.580 can't keep women long-term

01:01:58.580 since women are the ones

01:01:59.360 initiating most divorce?

01:02:00.380 What I'm saying is

01:02:01.360 that a lot of modern-day women,

01:02:02.620 when I talk to them

01:02:03.260 and they say...

01:02:03.980 Like, one of the top questions

01:02:05.400 I get with girls is like,

01:02:06.480 well, what do guys want?

01:02:07.420 Especially more attractive men.

01:02:09.040 And it's amazing to me

01:02:09.720 that they even have to ask that

01:02:10.960 because with men,

01:02:12.120 if we don't know

01:02:12.820 what women want,

01:02:13.440 we just have to deal

01:02:14.180 with the consequences.

01:02:14.880 But with women,

01:02:15.820 they can kind of

01:02:16.360 get along in life

01:02:17.160 and meet guys

01:02:18.100 and date and everything

01:02:18.820 without really knowing

01:02:19.480 what men want.

01:02:20.580 But yeah, sorry.

01:02:21.240 Yeah, so my point about empathy

01:02:22.700 was actually that I think

01:02:24.040 the reason perhaps

01:02:25.560 why you think women

01:02:26.340 don't have empathy

01:02:27.240 is because of these issues

01:02:29.440 we're talking about

01:02:30.240 with women getting married

01:02:31.360 later in life

01:02:32.060 and having children

01:02:32.740 later in life.

01:02:33.840 The empathy is not directed

01:02:35.180 towards the family unit anymore

01:02:36.620 and it's actually extrapolated

01:02:38.520 to outside groups,

01:02:39.380 which is why we see things

01:02:40.320 like tent cities

01:02:41.120 and an outside focus

01:02:42.300 on minority groups.

01:02:44.020 Yeah, I mean,

01:02:44.460 like I said before,

01:02:45.240 they can absolutely have sympathy.

01:02:46.500 But when I'm talking

01:02:47.140 about empathy specifically,

01:02:48.100 I'm talking about

01:02:48.660 the male experience

01:02:49.400 and kind of how men

01:02:51.140 go through things in life.

01:02:52.200 I don't think women

01:02:52.760 are empathetic

01:02:53.280 to the masculine experience.

01:02:54.740 Whereas men,

01:02:55.820 we have to understand

01:02:56.580 women to some level

01:02:57.580 if we want to be successful.

01:02:58.880 And if you look at guys

01:02:59.540 that are really good

01:03:00.400 with women,

01:03:00.760 like pickup artists

01:03:01.440 or dating coaches

01:03:02.320 or whatever,

01:03:02.980 they have a very fine-tuned

01:03:04.540 understanding and empathy

01:03:05.460 to women

01:03:05.900 because they're trying

01:03:06.820 to get laid.

01:03:07.280 So they have to be able

01:03:08.080 to think ahead

01:03:09.220 on what the woman's

01:03:09.980 going to expect,

01:03:10.520 what she's going to want,

01:03:11.360 the type of vibe

01:03:11.920 she's going to want

01:03:12.480 when it comes to

01:03:13.580 making something sexual.

01:03:15.100 So I argue that men

01:03:16.460 are far more empathetic

01:03:17.320 than women are,

01:03:18.540 especially guys

01:03:19.100 that are good with women.

01:03:19.980 I don't think women

01:03:20.640 are empathetic to men

01:03:21.720 because they don't have to.

01:03:22.260 I got to disagree with that

01:03:23.480 because you're also

01:03:25.280 making the point

01:03:25.880 that women aren't

01:03:26.680 getting good guys

01:03:27.580 because they're hypergamous.

01:03:29.360 And so if women

01:03:30.400 are going to suffer

01:03:31.740 later in life

01:03:32.500 because they can't

01:03:33.340 get a good guy

01:03:33.900 who wants to help

01:03:34.300 them have a family

01:03:34.780 and be a strong protector,

01:03:36.240 that is a detriment

01:03:36.860 to women by,

01:03:37.900 I guess what I'm saying

01:03:38.820 is women need

01:03:39.820 to be empathetic

01:03:40.620 to the male experience

01:03:41.320 if they want to have

01:03:41.880 a successful family

01:03:42.600 and relationship.

01:03:43.220 That's right.

01:03:43.900 Yes, but that comes

01:03:45.220 through them learning.

01:03:45.980 And my thing is,

01:03:46.780 I'm saying,

01:03:47.480 yes, there are some women

01:03:48.160 who are capable

01:03:48.520 of doing that, right?

01:03:49.200 I've noticed girls

01:03:49.760 that have a strong father,

01:03:51.220 a lot of brothers,

01:03:52.200 they get it,

01:03:53.160 but I'm saying

01:03:53.680 a lot of women don't.

01:03:55.060 And they're still able

01:03:55.780 to get through life

01:03:56.560 fairly easily

01:03:57.200 without knowing it.

01:03:58.300 And it isn't until

01:03:58.860 maybe later on.

01:03:59.760 So to clarify,

01:04:00.440 it's not intrinsic

01:04:01.020 to being a woman,

01:04:01.760 it is cultural.

01:04:03.100 Yes, there's no need

01:04:04.340 because no one gives a fuck

01:04:05.220 about men in general.

01:04:05.960 So most women

01:04:06.420 are kind of like,

01:04:07.580 well, why do I got

01:04:08.100 to understand this guy?

01:04:08.660 I'm hot.

01:04:09.240 Take me out.

01:04:09.800 But just to clarify again,

01:04:10.700 so if women were raised

01:04:11.980 by good dads,

01:04:12.660 they would understand this

01:04:13.340 you're saying?

01:04:14.540 Most women I've met

01:04:15.360 that understand this,

01:04:16.220 they come from either

01:04:17.160 a strong patriarch

01:04:17.780 with a father,

01:04:18.460 uncle, or brothers

01:04:19.260 when they do have it.

01:04:20.660 Kat, did you have

01:04:21.360 something to say?

01:04:22.360 Well, I mean,

01:04:22.920 I have a wonderful father.

01:04:25.320 I would say I'm very grateful

01:04:26.480 to have a wonderful father.

01:04:27.680 And it's been such a joy

01:04:29.140 to watch my husband

01:04:30.980 be such a wonderful father.

01:04:33.040 And we're raising

01:04:33.800 a little boy

01:04:34.840 who is going to grow up

01:04:35.820 and be a wonderful father,

01:04:36.940 I hope.

01:04:37.340 And Myron,

01:04:38.060 I hope that someday

01:04:38.960 you can be as happy

01:04:40.560 in a relationship

01:04:41.440 as I am in mine.

01:04:42.780 Yo, Myron's going

01:04:43.520 to have a daughter

01:04:43.960 and his whole show

01:04:44.980 is going to shift.

01:04:45.460 He's going to be

01:04:45.940 a raging liberal.

01:04:47.040 I want to say one thing

01:04:47.880 to Kat, though.

01:04:48.900 Kat.

01:04:49.860 No daughter.

01:04:50.880 Well, I do want to say, though,

01:04:52.900 that you are a female comedian,

01:04:55.460 very successful,

01:04:56.260 and a male-dominated industry.

01:04:57.620 Yeah.

01:04:57.940 Wouldn't you give a lot of credit

01:04:58.860 to having a strong father?

01:05:00.340 I give a credit

01:05:01.120 to having a strong father

01:05:02.200 every single day.

01:05:03.320 I talk to my dad every day.

01:05:05.240 I am so grateful,

01:05:06.460 so grateful

01:05:07.080 to have the father that I have.

01:05:08.240 And I think that

01:05:08.900 men that are as wonderful

01:05:10.280 as my father

01:05:11.260 deserve all the credit

01:05:12.820 in the world.

01:05:13.320 Is he funny?

01:05:14.520 He is funny.

01:05:16.180 And I agree.

01:05:17.000 I think that's a lot of,

01:05:17.880 even in the black community,

01:05:19.240 obviously, I think it's a lot

01:05:20.220 of the broken home situations,

01:05:21.920 Myron,

01:05:22.160 that there's actually

01:05:23.020 a lot of examples

01:05:23.720 where black guys

01:05:24.360 have both parents there

01:05:25.160 and they're incredibly successful.

01:05:26.280 So I think that, you know,

01:05:27.300 the way that people

01:05:27.960 are brought up,

01:05:28.940 the patriarchy

01:05:29.640 or whatever you want to call it,

01:05:30.540 is very important

01:05:31.220 to their, you know.

01:05:32.160 Well, yeah,

01:05:32.480 I've always said it

01:05:33.080 that strong dads

01:05:34.000 keep daughters off shirt poles

01:05:35.100 and sons out of jail.

01:05:36.100 It's very important.

01:05:36.920 But isn't part of the issue

01:05:38.040 that we're outlining here

01:05:39.000 that you're saying

01:05:39.600 is that society

01:05:40.680 doesn't have empathy

01:05:41.360 towards men,

01:05:41.960 which I would actually

01:05:42.540 just agree with.

01:05:43.120 There's really good research

01:05:44.060 on this, actually.

01:05:44.680 If you look at, like,

01:05:45.440 the age at which we view

01:05:46.640 boys becoming men,

01:05:48.280 it almost completely overlaps

01:05:50.160 with the spike of suicide rates

01:05:51.720 amongst young boys,

01:05:52.700 which is about the age of 14.

01:05:54.360 So I would actually

01:05:55.040 wholly agree with you

01:05:55.840 that society doesn't have,

01:05:57.060 like, empathy for men

01:05:57.920 in any way, shape, or form.

01:05:59.520 Right?

01:06:00.020 And we have this kind of weird,

01:06:02.260 infantilized empathy for women

01:06:03.720 that I think is actually

01:06:04.540 harmful to them in a lot of ways

01:06:05.660 because it robs them

01:06:06.580 of a lot of their agency.

01:06:07.900 But when you're saying, like,

01:06:08.860 it's women that don't

01:06:09.720 have empathy for men,

01:06:10.460 I feel like you're actually

01:06:11.480 missing, like, 50% of the pie

01:06:13.100 when it's society.

01:06:14.680 Nobody cares about men.

01:06:16.100 They don't care

01:06:16.480 that you're struggling.

01:06:17.140 They don't care

01:06:17.500 that you're lonely.

01:06:18.180 They think your tears are gross.

01:06:20.020 And I think that that's

01:06:20.580 a horrible state.

01:06:21.740 But I don't think

01:06:22.140 this is a woman-driven thing.

01:06:23.860 This is a societal issue.

01:06:26.020 I want to say this point,

01:06:26.740 too.

01:06:26.840 The infantilization of women,

01:06:29.720 I think that it's very obvious,

01:06:31.460 though, that women's social power

01:06:34.060 only goes down with age

01:06:35.500 as men's go up.

01:06:37.120 So it's directly inverse.

01:06:39.080 So you would want

01:06:40.100 to infantilize a woman

01:06:41.440 because her value

01:06:42.620 is more when she's younger.

01:06:44.260 So she would want to skew

01:06:45.680 and tend to be more young.

01:06:47.560 I mean, isn't that right?

01:06:48.500 I think we should only

01:06:49.120 infantilize children.

01:06:50.080 I don't think adults...

01:06:51.180 I'm not pro,

01:06:51.740 but I'm saying, isn't that...

01:06:52.380 I don't like infantilizing adults.

01:06:53.660 I understand why.

01:06:54.760 I think you're right

01:06:55.420 as to, like,

01:06:55.940 why we oftentimes, like,

01:06:57.380 systemically infantilize women more.

01:06:59.200 I just think it's harmful

01:07:00.100 to both women and to men

01:07:01.500 because it leads to this, like,

01:07:02.520 really weird disjunct

01:07:03.720 where if a woman is, like,

01:07:04.680 sexually aggressive with a man,

01:07:05.960 people are like,

01:07:06.540 ha, ha, ha, he probably loved it.

01:07:08.200 But if a man does the same thing

01:07:09.480 towards the same age woman role,

01:07:10.680 like, he's a monster.

01:07:12.060 And I think that

01:07:12.820 that creates this disjoint

01:07:14.000 of unparody

01:07:15.580 that I think is harmful

01:07:17.040 and devalues men

01:07:18.440 in a way that they don't think is good.

01:07:19.680 Yeah, I mean, again,

01:07:20.780 I'm not sitting here

01:07:21.700 trying to feel sad,

01:07:22.440 but I'm just saying, like,

01:07:23.020 this is just the honest reality

01:07:24.480 when it comes to, like,

01:07:25.420 how women deal with men

01:07:26.260 and how men deal with women.

01:07:27.200 Like, men have to understand women,

01:07:28.820 whereas women don't really

01:07:29.540 have to understand men

01:07:30.380 to be able to get the same access, right?

01:07:32.280 But if they understood women better,

01:07:33.600 they'd probably have longer marriages

01:07:35.040 and women would be leaving them

01:07:36.200 less often, I'm assuming, right?

01:07:37.560 Because women cite the same reasons

01:07:38.980 over and over

01:07:39.500 for why they end the marriages.

01:07:40.900 Even though I would argue to women,

01:07:42.460 like, there should probably be more work.

01:07:43.920 Women end relationships

01:07:45.060 a lot of times

01:07:45.520 because they have this concept

01:07:46.520 that they should always be happy.

01:07:47.980 And that overrides duty to the family.

01:07:50.120 So that's another reason, too,

01:07:51.760 why women end marriages

01:07:53.140 and relationships

01:07:53.580 because we tell women

01:07:54.700 that their happiness

01:07:55.300 overrides everything.

01:07:56.540 And they'll be like,

01:07:56.920 oh, you know what?

01:07:57.280 I could do better.

01:07:57.920 Like, women have this perpetual,

01:07:59.420 the grass is green

01:08:00.000 onto the side.

01:08:00.600 I could do better.

01:08:01.200 I could do better.

01:08:01.780 It's usually I could do better without.

01:08:03.120 It's usually why they're leaving men.

01:08:04.900 They don't say,

01:08:05.580 I can find a new man who's better.

01:08:06.820 They say,

01:08:07.180 I'd rather be single

01:08:08.240 than fucking put up with each other.

01:08:09.400 That's usually why women leave men.

01:08:10.880 I have a stupid,

01:08:12.300 uninformed hypothesis

01:08:13.220 where I think women

01:08:14.900 will average

01:08:16.280 at a slight state

01:08:17.060 of discontent

01:08:17.780 relative to men.

01:08:19.060 And the reason why

01:08:19.400 I think that might be

01:08:20.120 is that imagine

01:08:21.460 there's two tribal,

01:08:23.700 you know,

01:08:24.340 Plains, Savannah-dwelling humans.

01:08:26.600 Two tribes.

01:08:27.600 And in one,

01:08:28.600 the woman is always content

01:08:30.020 with what is.

01:08:31.440 So the guy comes back

01:08:32.300 and says,

01:08:32.900 hey, I caught us some fish.

01:08:34.460 We have food for the day.

01:08:35.120 And she goes,

01:08:35.440 that's perfect.

01:08:36.620 The other woman

01:08:37.640 in the other tribe

01:08:38.400 is no matter what happens,

01:08:39.600 she's always a little unhappy

01:08:40.520 and demanding more of the man.

01:08:42.080 So he says,

01:08:42.680 I brought enough fish for food.

01:08:43.760 And she goes,

01:08:44.040 why am I only getting two fish?

01:08:45.180 This is bullshit.

01:08:45.780 I want three fish.

01:08:46.660 And he goes,

01:08:46.840 okay, I'll go get you more fish.

01:08:47.760 Jeez, calm down.

01:08:48.940 One day,

01:08:49.900 there's a famine.

01:08:51.120 The woman who was always complaining

01:08:52.580 has more and survives.

01:08:54.360 And the woman who was content

01:08:55.260 does not.

01:08:55.680 It's not to dig on women.

01:08:57.020 I'm saying that women

01:08:58.100 are demanding of their men

01:08:59.220 because they want to survive.

01:09:00.780 And so they constantly

01:09:01.420 expect more from men.

01:09:02.740 Yeah, I mean,

01:09:03.280 when it comes to,

01:09:03.940 like I've said this,

01:09:04.640 women get mad at me

01:09:05.200 when I say this,

01:09:05.660 but like women are literally

01:09:06.380 designed to extract value

01:09:07.460 from men.

01:09:07.920 Like that is what

01:09:08.400 they're designed to do.

01:09:09.160 We're designed to provide value.

01:09:10.280 Their values,

01:09:11.220 what they do is extract value.

01:09:12.960 This is why I like.

01:09:13.400 You don't got to say it

01:09:13.960 in such a dick way.

01:09:14.860 You know what I mean?

01:09:15.740 Amber,

01:09:16.200 what do you have to say, Amber?

01:09:17.220 This is why women.

01:09:18.060 Well, you're asking her

01:09:19.160 to commit 18 years of her life

01:09:20.800 and to carry a body

01:09:21.800 that is destructive

01:09:22.980 to our body.

01:09:23.800 Being able to bear a child

01:09:25.380 is like.

01:09:25.940 We understand.

01:09:27.220 Annihilates our body.

01:09:28.120 But the point I'm trying

01:09:29.060 to make is that women

01:09:30.220 are literally designed

01:09:31.180 to extract value from men.

01:09:32.200 But you're narrativizing

01:09:33.000 it in a way

01:09:33.380 that I think is unfair.

01:09:34.020 This is why when a man

01:09:36.200 makes more,

01:09:36.780 when a woman makes more money

01:09:37.660 than her man,

01:09:39.080 she starts to think like

01:09:39.940 what the hell is going on here?

01:09:40.980 Like women are not designed

01:09:41.980 to provide long term provisioning

01:09:44.360 to a man.

01:09:44.640 That's only true.

01:09:45.700 That's only true

01:09:46.500 that when women earn more

01:09:47.600 than their male partners

01:09:48.420 that it's a problem

01:09:49.060 for the relationship.

01:09:49.700 If the male has a very

01:09:50.940 traditional view of masculinity

01:09:52.160 and she does too.

01:09:53.180 The moment that you remove

01:09:54.280 a traditional view

01:09:54.900 of masculinity

01:09:55.420 where for example

01:09:56.080 the woman goes like

01:09:56.820 I'm the breadwinner

01:09:57.860 and that's totally fine with me.

01:09:59.460 Suddenly the relationship

01:10:00.460 is completely balanced out.

01:10:01.620 The data is just robust in this.

01:10:03.300 I don't know what to tell you.

01:10:03.400 I wanted to ask.

01:10:03.880 Yeah, it is.

01:10:04.920 Women don't do well

01:10:05.840 when they're in the football.

01:10:06.140 One last thing, Amber.

01:10:06.960 They were to bring somebody else up.

01:10:07.400 I just wanted to ask.

01:10:08.200 It is also in my experience

01:10:09.600 I would say

01:10:10.180 not every man

01:10:11.220 could be with me.

01:10:12.520 I think a lot of men

01:10:13.360 have being with me

01:10:15.180 felt emasculated.

01:10:16.620 That's cute.

01:10:17.500 Have felt emasculated by me.

01:10:19.080 You could never handle me, Myron.

01:10:20.320 That's obvious.

01:10:20.840 I wouldn't want to.

01:10:21.580 That's obvious.

01:10:22.220 Thank God.

01:10:22.800 And I would never either.

01:10:24.300 I would never either.

01:10:26.000 But my man is very, very masculine

01:10:27.760 At least she's not a black guy.

01:10:28.740 So that's good.

01:10:29.220 And very, very, very strong

01:10:30.460 and able to be with me.

01:10:32.060 Let's try and get Amber in.

01:10:33.020 All right, all right, all right.

01:10:34.160 Broad question for the group.

01:10:36.220 Sure, calm down, calm down.

01:10:38.320 I want to get everyone's opinion on this.

01:10:40.860 I had pushed a baby out of my vagina.

01:10:43.480 That's about as feminine as you can get.

01:10:45.480 Well, men can't have babies.

01:10:46.980 But you talk like a guy

01:10:48.080 when you have a deep voice.

01:10:49.220 All right, all right, all right.

01:10:50.280 So I want to focus this one

01:10:51.840 on third wave feminism specifically

01:10:53.940 and what I think the underlying issue is

01:10:56.800 because I'm not, Myron,

01:10:59.080 I'm not arguing for women

01:10:59.960 to not get the right to vote, et cetera.

01:11:01.180 But if we look at third wave feminism,

01:11:03.420 I think one of the distinct problems with it

01:11:05.380 is that it's not that women

01:11:08.520 shouldn't be considered equal to men.

01:11:10.500 It's that third wave feminism

01:11:12.180 pushed the message

01:11:12.920 that men and women were the same.

01:11:15.280 Yeah, I hate third wave feminism.

01:11:17.100 I mean, I'm a feminist,

01:11:17.820 but I'm not pro third wave feminism.

01:11:19.780 Well, we agree.

01:11:20.460 All right, Amber, thank you so much.

01:11:21.500 Thank you guys.

01:11:22.280 Give it up for Amber Duke.

01:11:23.560 All right, our next thing

01:11:24.520 is Joe Kalman here.

01:11:27.320 Joe Kalman.

01:11:28.080 Joe, are you here?

01:11:30.380 Yeah, Joe.

01:11:31.280 Come on down to the right side.

01:11:32.540 These guys are all centrally located tonight.

01:11:34.120 I love it.

01:11:34.680 Yeah, thank you, Joe.

01:11:35.740 What do you got for us?

01:11:37.360 Kind of retarded, but...

01:11:39.860 Good way to start off.

01:11:41.380 Great, good start.

01:11:42.620 So I have a two-part question.

01:11:44.740 For the feminists,

01:11:46.400 do you think that a time 200 years ago,

01:11:50.240 the way that feminism

01:11:51.920 and females' roles in society,

01:11:54.520 do you think that that was oppressive?

01:11:56.340 Yes or no?

01:11:57.600 Yeah.

01:11:58.280 I mean, before women had rights,

01:12:00.920 yeah.

01:12:01.680 Yeah, I mean,

01:12:02.080 it was robbing of their agency.

01:12:03.860 Did they have a particular role

01:12:05.900 in the society

01:12:06.980 that would not be able to exist

01:12:10.540 back then?

01:12:12.520 I feel like I'm not understanding

01:12:14.040 the question.

01:12:14.500 I have no idea.

01:12:15.320 What the hell are you talking about?

01:12:16.520 I feel like you're begging the question.

01:12:18.120 Do you want to just make your point

01:12:19.000 and then ask a question?

01:12:20.080 What do you think about this?

01:12:21.320 We have a lot of consumerism

01:12:23.500 and technologies nowadays

01:12:25.900 that I think enable feminism.

01:12:28.380 Do you think that a time

01:12:30.280 when they didn't have paper towels

01:12:31.800 or a washing machine

01:12:33.280 or all of these other things

01:12:35.880 that women used to do,

01:12:39.840 were they oppressed in that role

01:12:42.180 taking care of a house?

01:12:43.640 I like this question.

01:12:44.860 Do you like it?

01:12:45.620 Yeah, I think...

01:12:46.140 I do like this question.

01:12:46.780 I think essentially

01:12:47.440 that when you take away

01:12:48.540 people's political rights,

01:12:49.960 you are robbing them of agency,

01:12:51.260 which I think is inherently oppressive.

01:12:52.940 I think stealing people's ability

01:12:54.300 to make choices is bad.

01:12:56.020 And most importantly,

01:12:57.000 you can see this, for example,

01:12:58.000 when you look at Spartan women

01:12:59.120 versus Athenian women.

01:13:00.540 Spartan women were actually

01:13:01.560 expected to manage the household

01:13:03.220 because Spartans thought

01:13:04.080 it was gay for men

01:13:05.040 to touch money, basically,

01:13:07.300 which is funny.

01:13:08.560 But Spartan women, as a result,

01:13:11.200 were able to negotiate

01:13:12.200 a lot more things

01:13:13.060 like better wages,

01:13:14.380 better marital care,

01:13:15.780 better maternity leave,

01:13:17.480 whereas Athenian women

01:13:18.240 were basically rejected

01:13:19.440 from society.

01:13:20.280 And as a result,

01:13:20.820 they were entirely powerless.

01:13:22.280 So yes, not having

01:13:23.460 any political power or agency

01:13:24.920 diminishes your ability

01:13:26.660 and does create

01:13:27.460 a system of oppression.

01:13:28.080 Let me ask you to the point

01:13:28.740 of the technology of it.

01:13:30.440 Sure.

01:13:30.960 Women of the 1800s,

01:13:32.140 were they oppressed?

01:13:34.640 Broadly, the poor ones,

01:13:36.700 especially, yes.

01:13:38.040 The rich ones, yes,

01:13:40.380 to a lesser degree.

01:13:40.520 Was it oppressive

01:13:41.060 that they were expected

01:13:42.300 to be doing womanly things,

01:13:44.120 cleaning laundry?

01:13:44.760 No, it was the robbing

01:13:45.920 of the rights.

01:13:46.800 It was that they had

01:13:47.680 no other choice

01:13:48.280 to do anything else.

01:13:48.980 Can't we all agree

01:13:49.820 that even since

01:13:50.720 the beginning of time,

01:13:51.560 women have had gender roles,

01:13:52.880 different gender roles

01:13:53.720 than men, though?

01:13:54.480 I mean, is that, yeah.

01:13:55.220 Men and women are not the same.

01:13:55.860 No, I'm saying I agree with you.

01:13:57.040 So that's from

01:13:58.320 the beginning of time

01:13:59.420 we've known this.

01:14:00.220 The difference is,

01:14:01.220 men could choose cobbler

01:14:02.440 or these sorts of things.

01:14:03.560 Women were only allowed

01:14:05.060 to have babies

01:14:05.840 and make the house.

01:14:06.740 And that was basically it.

01:14:07.720 The reason why I think

01:14:08.140 this is a good point,

01:14:09.000 actually,

01:14:09.460 is that firearms

01:14:10.700 have greatly equalized

01:14:12.740 power between men and women

01:14:13.500 in a lot of ways.

01:14:14.720 So if you were a woman

01:14:16.660 in the 1800s,

01:14:17.380 you weren't going to be

01:14:17.860 a sheriff, right?

01:14:19.460 Yeah.

01:14:19.660 Because, you know,

01:14:20.780 I think what,

01:14:21.680 it wasn't until like

01:14:22.160 the late 18,

01:14:23.180 they didn't have cartridges

01:14:24.420 until the late 1800s.

01:14:25.820 So if you're late,

01:14:26.900 if you're late 1700s,

01:14:28.420 it was not oppression.

01:14:29.620 They said a woman

01:14:30.140 can't be in this role.

01:14:31.260 It was the physical

01:14:32.440 impossibility of it.

01:14:33.580 It was both, right?

01:14:34.740 But the other thing too is,

01:14:35.740 they would even say

01:14:36.560 she like invented something

01:14:37.740 or some superpower woman

01:14:39.000 who could theoretically

01:14:40.040 maintain the same job.

01:14:40.900 She wasn't allowed to.

01:14:42.100 But the issue is,

01:14:43.320 you're not likely

01:14:43.980 to see a woman,

01:14:45.200 you know,

01:14:45.660 manually tilling fields

01:14:46.920 with pickaxes.

01:14:48.120 That's not true.

01:14:48.760 Actually,

01:14:49.040 women were regularly

01:14:49.980 doing farm labor.

01:14:50.860 In fact,

01:14:51.100 that was one of the main

01:14:51.760 domicile areas.

01:14:52.440 Specifically tilling the fields.

01:14:53.900 Yes, they would.

01:14:54.320 Men were pulling these things

01:14:55.500 before beasts of burden.

01:14:56.420 So were women.

01:14:57.340 I don't know what to tell you there.

01:14:58.500 This was just shared

01:14:59.540 by the household.

01:15:00.080 You're making the argument

01:15:01.580 that women were doing

01:15:02.520 physical feats,

01:15:03.480 that men were disproportionately

01:15:05.400 doing those physical feats.

01:15:06.440 No, I'm making an argument

01:15:07.580 that men had agency.

01:15:08.860 Well, no,

01:15:09.420 I said men had agency

01:15:10.540 and women didn't, right?

01:15:11.460 My issue isn't that women

01:15:12.560 had traditional gender roles.

01:15:13.840 My issue is that women

01:15:14.560 had no choice of anything else.

01:15:15.240 The reason why men carried

01:15:15.260 heavy things in chopped lumber

01:15:16.420 was not because they oppressed women.

01:15:17.700 I don't have a problem with that.

01:15:18.760 I have an issue

01:15:19.320 if women can't choose

01:15:20.480 to do things like teaching

01:15:21.620 or own real estate.

01:15:23.120 Men did not invent pickle jars

01:15:24.220 to oppress women.

01:15:25.360 They're just hard to open.

01:15:26.600 I don't know why you're running

01:15:28.020 away from this argument.

01:15:28.840 Because now they have

01:15:29.820 automatic pickle jar openers.

01:15:31.380 You don't need men anymore.

01:15:32.340 There's nothing masculine

01:15:33.200 about owning property, right?

01:15:34.580 There's just nothing inherent.

01:15:35.660 There's nothing.

01:15:36.280 That's what I'm talking about.

01:15:37.580 The point he made was

01:15:39.240 with technological advancements

01:15:40.620 allowing for women

01:15:41.180 to not have to do these jobs

01:15:42.280 is a depression when they did.

01:15:43.800 And I think it's an interesting point

01:15:44.820 that men chop lumber

01:15:46.140 because they have big upper bodies

01:15:47.680 and heavy arms.

01:15:48.380 I never said I want women

01:15:49.380 in the 1800s to chop lumber.

01:15:50.680 But now that we have

01:15:51.140 automatic lumber splitters,

01:15:52.400 it's not a big deal

01:15:53.140 to have women doing that job.

01:15:54.180 They weren't oppressing women

01:15:54.880 by saying,

01:15:55.280 no, we're going to have

01:15:55.620 a guy chop lumber.

01:15:56.260 I'll just state my opinion again

01:15:57.260 because I don't think

01:15:57.740 you're engaging with it.

01:15:58.520 I'm not saying that women

01:15:59.500 were oppressed in the 1800s

01:16:00.660 because they weren't lumberjacks.

01:16:01.840 I'm saying women were oppressed

01:16:02.840 because they didn't have

01:16:03.660 the option to be anything

01:16:04.740 but homemakers

01:16:05.620 and own private property.

01:16:06.960 That's why they were oppressed.

01:16:07.600 I think she makes a good point.

01:16:08.940 Okay, all right.

01:16:09.580 Go sit down, Joe.

01:16:10.280 I don't think that was that great.

01:16:11.300 Jory Brooks.

01:16:12.980 Jory Brooks.

01:16:13.780 Is Jory Brooks here?

01:16:14.960 Come on down.

01:16:16.300 Am I saying that right, Jory?

01:16:18.620 He's coming.

01:16:19.020 Come on, Jory.

01:16:20.180 You know,

01:16:20.760 we have a limited time limit here.

01:16:23.240 Over here, brother.

01:16:23.880 A time limit.

01:16:24.660 Make a show

01:16:25.000 one more hour next time.

01:16:26.020 Yeah, we do need

01:16:26.700 a four-hour show actually

01:16:27.480 but what do you got for us?

01:16:28.600 All right, I got a simple question

01:16:30.080 for Myron.

01:16:31.480 Do you think these things

01:16:32.360 should be legally enforced

01:16:33.560 or just culturally pushed?

01:16:36.880 Like putting women

01:16:37.620 back in the kitchen?

01:16:38.780 Yeah, stuff like that.

01:16:40.560 Women as second-class citizens,

01:16:42.260 basically.

01:16:42.460 Or repealing the 19th Amendment?

01:16:44.020 Yeah.

01:16:44.600 Yeah, I mean,

01:16:45.080 I think if we do it,

01:16:46.020 because here's the thing,

01:16:46.520 women are followers, right?

01:16:48.000 They're not really leaders.

01:16:49.140 So if we culturally shame

01:16:50.740 them being sluts

01:16:52.020 or voting

01:16:52.460 or any of that other stuff

01:16:53.180 and say like,

01:16:53.660 hey, you need to get back

01:16:54.540 in the kitchen,

01:16:55.160 education isn't great for you,

01:16:56.420 I think they'd follow that.

01:16:57.340 We don't need to force them

01:16:58.520 to do it

01:16:58.880 because women are followers.

01:17:00.240 So why do you want

01:17:00.720 to repeal the 19th?

01:17:01.520 Yeah.

01:17:02.140 What was that?

01:17:02.560 Why do you want

01:17:02.960 to repeal the 19th

01:17:03.700 if you think social shame

01:17:04.540 is effective enough?

01:17:05.380 Well, again,

01:17:06.400 in that regard,

01:17:07.460 we really got to make

01:17:08.080 sure you guys can't vote.

01:17:08.940 But yeah, other than that,

01:17:09.800 everything else could be cultural.

01:17:10.580 That's the question.

01:17:11.240 That's the question.

01:17:11.740 Why?

01:17:11.840 Yeah, yeah.

01:17:12.220 So no,

01:17:12.780 when it comes to voting,

01:17:13.680 we just don't let them in.

01:17:14.460 They're like,

01:17:14.820 oh, I'm here to vote.

01:17:15.600 LOL.

01:17:16.080 And then tell them to go home.

01:17:17.140 Real quick, real quick.

01:17:18.160 You know what I mean?

01:17:18.680 It's just simple.

01:17:20.320 I don't want to take away

01:17:21.160 the rights

01:17:21.480 except for the right to vote.

01:17:22.500 Would you guys agree

01:17:25.460 that women should

01:17:27.600 have to sign up

01:17:29.140 for Selective Service

01:17:29.660 same as men?

01:17:31.560 That or nobody has to sign up.

01:17:33.020 Yeah, I don't believe

01:17:33.560 in the draft at all.

01:17:34.540 So then,

01:17:35.180 so right,

01:17:35.720 so either remove it completely

01:17:36.720 or women have to do it.

01:17:37.580 I think equity

01:17:38.080 would be fine there, yeah.

01:17:39.240 You know,

01:17:39.600 I don't think women

01:17:40.380 should be cops.

01:17:41.420 I don't think

01:17:41.680 they should be in the military.

01:17:42.580 I don't think

01:17:42.780 they should be doing any of it.

01:17:43.620 He wants to take away

01:17:44.340 women's rights.

01:17:45.200 I don't think women

01:17:46.160 should be cops

01:17:46.840 because they shoot people.

01:17:48.300 They get emotional.

01:17:49.020 So what he wants to say is

01:17:50.360 what he wants to say is

01:17:52.240 there's not allowed

01:17:53.060 no matter what.

01:17:53.900 It's about I am right.

01:17:55.000 You guys don't need

01:17:56.420 to be in the military.

01:17:57.260 It's not philosophy.

01:17:58.200 It's real reality.

01:17:59.320 Whenever I see female,

01:18:00.280 I used to work in law enforcement.

01:18:01.280 Let me tell you something.

01:18:02.040 All right?

01:18:02.480 You guys are fucking useless

01:18:03.340 when it comes to anything

01:18:04.240 that has to do with enforcement.

01:18:05.120 I'll tell you why.

01:18:05.940 They don't know

01:18:06.300 how to do things tactically.

01:18:07.600 They can barely go ahead

01:18:08.500 and actually subdue a subject.

01:18:10.020 So whenever I had women

01:18:10.880 and I did an operation plan,

01:18:11.940 I put these bitches

01:18:12.500 on the perimeter

01:18:12.980 because they can't effectively

01:18:14.280 get into a fight

01:18:14.960 and they put everyone else in danger.

01:18:16.920 So when it comes to military,

01:18:17.860 law enforcement,

01:18:19.080 anything like that,

01:18:19.900 I think women shouldn't be involved

01:18:21.020 in those professions.

01:18:22.020 They should be only in a support role.

01:18:23.880 There's actually a very...

01:18:24.700 Only in a support role.

01:18:25.800 Myron's right.

01:18:26.820 And then with that said,

01:18:28.180 since they're not in the military,

01:18:29.160 they shouldn't have the right to vote.

01:18:30.300 That should be left to the men.

01:18:31.500 Because here's the other problem too.

01:18:32.740 When you put women in the military,

01:18:33.740 you put them in law enforcement,

01:18:35.260 you effectively weaken

01:18:36.200 the entire force for what?

01:18:37.580 Their feelings

01:18:38.000 so they can feel equal?

01:18:38.840 Get the fuck out of here.

01:18:39.220 You're only as strong

01:18:40.080 as your weakest link.

01:18:41.000 And there was just a Houston,

01:18:42.080 a female Houston cop

01:18:43.120 that went and pulled a gun

01:18:44.920 on a guy

01:18:45.720 because the guy had cheated

01:18:46.940 on her sister.

01:18:48.700 Yeah, women do crimes

01:18:50.320 and that's bad.

01:18:50.840 The issue is that...

01:18:51.340 I don't want to tell a female cop...

01:18:52.900 Again, I'm not saying

01:18:54.100 women should be cops.

01:18:55.060 You're more likely to get shot

01:18:55.180 by a female cop

01:18:55.880 than a male cop

01:18:56.420 way faster.

01:18:57.540 Okay, hey,

01:18:58.060 Jessica,

01:18:58.400 Jessica,

01:19:00.980 I don't know

01:19:01.280 how you're handwriting shit.

01:19:03.100 Jess, come on down, Jess.

01:19:04.960 There you go,

01:19:05.300 that's easier.

01:19:06.960 What do you got, Myron?

01:19:07.980 No, I was just going to say

01:19:08.780 while she waits.

01:19:10.220 But his answer is

01:19:10.880 he doesn't just want

01:19:11.580 to socially shame,

01:19:12.400 he wants to steal rights.

01:19:13.400 Anyone that's in the military

01:19:14.260 or a police officer

01:19:15.220 will tell you

01:19:15.680 having female backup sucks.

01:19:16.980 Then make sure

01:19:17.700 that the standards are equal.

01:19:18.900 Just make sure

01:19:19.480 the standards are equal.

01:19:20.080 I do want to point out

01:19:20.960 the inherent sexism

01:19:21.680 of this show.

01:19:22.240 I did ask Myron

01:19:23.080 to sit there

01:19:23.540 because I said

01:19:24.120 he could beat the shit

01:19:24.760 out of anybody

01:19:25.200 who fucked with him

01:19:25.780 from the audience.

01:19:27.900 I love you all.

01:19:28.960 All right, Jess,

01:19:29.520 what do you got for us?

01:19:30.720 All right.

01:19:31.140 I think you ladies

01:19:33.220 have an idealized view

01:19:34.800 of feminism

01:19:35.780 and I do believe

01:19:37.180 it will bring down

01:19:38.240 Western society.

01:19:39.700 All right.

01:19:40.380 Come on down.

01:19:40.800 Come on, Talia.

01:19:41.440 That was great.

01:19:42.720 Back in the kitchen.

01:19:43.640 Let's go.

01:19:44.500 Come on, hurry.

01:19:45.180 This way.

01:19:46.280 Now you're letting her

01:19:47.020 out of the kitchen, Myron?

01:19:47.940 Wow.

01:19:49.300 Yeah, he only likes women

01:19:50.300 that agree with him.

01:19:51.320 Imagine that.

01:19:52.400 They can have rights.

01:19:53.100 They can have rights, actually.

01:19:53.960 Jess, just right now.

01:19:54.920 What do you got for us, Jess?

01:19:55.780 Rights for now.

01:19:56.320 All right.

01:19:56.720 Let me pull my nose back up.

01:19:57.700 Speak into the microphone.

01:19:58.640 I just think it is

01:20:02.460 a more collectivist plot

01:20:05.020 for societal division

01:20:06.020 than it is.

01:20:06.840 What do you mean

01:20:07.160 by collectivist?

01:20:08.720 As in right now

01:20:10.100 when you have,

01:20:12.120 I'll just give an example,

01:20:13.260 the feminist movement

01:20:13.940 being tied with transgenderism

01:20:16.140 and all these other

01:20:17.140 sorts of things

01:20:18.280 that is more left-wing

01:20:20.000 and just more collectivist

01:20:21.140 in mindset.

01:20:22.120 I mean, you can just say

01:20:23.340 those parts of feminism

01:20:24.400 I disagree with.

01:20:24.980 I already said

01:20:25.460 third-wave feminism.

01:20:26.480 Not a big fan.

01:20:27.180 Women and men

01:20:27.680 are not the same.

01:20:29.000 So, in a broad sense,

01:20:30.460 feminism as a whole

01:20:31.260 includes a lot of really bad shit.

01:20:32.560 Sure, of course.

01:20:33.020 There's lots of things

01:20:33.560 in feminism I disagree with.

01:20:34.440 Real quick, but aren't we...

01:20:35.700 Wait, with the trans movement,

01:20:37.840 wouldn't...

01:20:38.300 And I'm not, you know,

01:20:39.280 social scientist,

01:20:40.060 but aren't we almost

01:20:40.720 in fourth-wave feminism now?

01:20:42.560 We are in fourth-wave.

01:20:43.240 That's what I'm saying.

01:20:43.960 No, we are in fourth-wave.

01:20:45.580 Alex knows his feminism.

01:20:46.740 Guys, come on.

01:20:47.100 I know this.

01:20:47.460 I love ladies.

01:20:48.180 I love my baby.

01:20:49.040 I know.

01:20:49.420 Let's go.

01:20:49.980 I love...

01:20:51.220 I mean, I'm not going to lie.

01:20:52.380 I'm not going to...

01:20:52.940 No, my question was actually

01:20:54.200 for Myron.

01:20:54.960 Oh, shit.

01:20:55.540 Oh, yeah.

01:20:56.200 All right.

01:20:56.740 Okay, so have you considered

01:20:58.420 that you may be surrounding yourself

01:21:00.300 with low-quality women

01:21:01.440 that are skewing

01:21:02.240 your perception of dating?

01:21:04.060 And how would you address

01:21:05.180 the fact that other men

01:21:06.240 buying into this narrow viewpoint

01:21:07.940 of relationships

01:21:08.840 tend to become unhappy and single?

01:21:11.680 Okay, so I like that you asked that

01:21:14.180 because a lot of people

01:21:14.620 say that all the time.

01:21:15.400 Myron, you're in Miami.

01:21:16.160 You're around a bunch of bimbos,

01:21:16.960 blah, blah, blah.

01:21:17.820 So the reality is...

01:21:19.120 Shut up.

01:21:19.660 Yeah, well, here's the thing.

01:21:20.740 I brought girls on.

01:21:21.460 We actually keep data.

01:21:22.120 We bring girls on

01:21:23.280 that have PhDs,

01:21:24.940 master degrees,

01:21:25.960 educated with bachelor degrees,

01:21:27.320 all different types of job fields.

01:21:29.560 And, you know,

01:21:30.500 I've still noticed

01:21:31.240 some very interesting similarities

01:21:33.040 despite education level,

01:21:34.280 cultural background, et cetera,

01:21:35.820 with the women.

01:21:37.140 So my thing is,

01:21:38.680 unfortunately,

01:21:40.260 almost all women...

01:21:41.220 Well, damn near 99% of women

01:21:42.940 are all very hypergamous.

01:21:44.400 And what I tell guys is

01:21:45.740 the reason why they need to rise up

01:21:46.960 and make more money

01:21:47.560 and get in the gym

01:21:48.220 and just be the best they can be

01:21:50.240 is because women's standards

01:21:51.560 have went up.

01:21:52.120 And since women's standards

01:21:52.840 have went up,

01:21:53.300 most guys don't qualify.

01:21:54.660 And I think for any guy

01:21:55.640 to be able in a relationship

01:21:56.340 where they can, like,

01:21:57.100 make it last

01:21:57.600 and have their girl

01:21:58.080 be somewhat satisfied

01:21:59.340 is they have to be

01:21:59.820 the best version of yourself

01:22:00.620 because women are pickier

01:22:01.840 now than ever before

01:22:02.660 thanks to feminism.

01:22:04.660 So...

01:22:04.900 And not only that,

01:22:05.940 but, like,

01:22:06.300 women are encouraged

01:22:06.900 to get the best they can.

01:22:07.860 So my thing isn't necessarily

01:22:09.400 that I'm around

01:22:10.040 lower quality women,

01:22:11.300 you would say.

01:22:12.340 It's just that I'm around

01:22:13.540 a lot of different types of women

01:22:14.780 from different walks of life.

01:22:15.820 And I would argue

01:22:16.400 the hotter the girl,

01:22:17.300 the more hypergamous

01:22:17.920 they're going to be

01:22:18.380 because they can be.

01:22:19.160 I would argue, though,

01:22:20.440 you may be personally

01:22:23.220 trying to find

01:22:23.880 an eclectic bunch,

01:22:24.520 but you're not going to church,

01:22:25.440 right?

01:22:25.760 Are you going to churches

01:22:26.800 that have these debates?

01:22:27.720 Well, here's the thing.

01:22:28.580 We bring a lot of girls

01:22:29.320 that are religious, too,

01:22:29.900 on the podcast.

01:22:31.000 And you find they're all the same?

01:22:32.020 No, he does bring a lot.

01:22:32.840 We have four church goers?

01:22:34.200 No, we brought girls in

01:22:35.280 that are religious, too.

01:22:36.020 I mean, religious girls

01:22:36.700 are going to want...

01:22:37.480 They're going to want a guy

01:22:38.580 that's more traditional.

01:22:39.440 So, like,

01:22:39.980 the point is this.

01:22:41.240 The guy needs to be

01:22:41.900 a complete package

01:22:42.560 is my argument nowadays.

01:22:43.700 Like, you can't be

01:22:44.500 an average guy nowadays

01:22:45.400 and still be able to,

01:22:46.580 you know, get a girl

01:22:47.900 or get a woman

01:22:50.440 of course it is.

01:22:51.660 But what I'm saying now

01:22:52.380 is that, like,

01:22:52.920 average women

01:22:53.700 no longer want average men.

01:22:55.460 Bro, historically,

01:22:56.680 40% of men reproduced.

01:22:58.880 Of course.

01:22:59.260 And now it's 83.

01:23:01.380 83% of men now?

01:23:02.860 No.

01:23:04.220 83% don't reproduce.

01:23:05.620 Well, no, no, no.

01:23:06.140 I'm sorry.

01:23:06.480 As of the younger generation,

01:23:07.440 sure, but historically,

01:23:08.760 throughout thousands

01:23:09.560 and thousands of years,

01:23:10.360 of course,

01:23:10.740 the number was around 40.

01:23:11.820 Modern history,

01:23:12.580 it's around 80.

01:23:13.240 Of course, I understand

01:23:14.120 Gen Z is dropping off.

01:23:15.380 And here's the thing, too.

01:23:16.260 We had guardrails, right?

01:23:17.240 Before, like, you know,

01:23:18.160 you had the church.

01:23:18.940 You had social shame.

01:23:20.000 You had stigmas

01:23:20.680 with women behaving

01:23:21.800 and acting in a way

01:23:22.980 to, you know,

01:23:23.480 effectuate their hypergamy.

01:23:24.640 But these guardrails

01:23:25.460 are gone now.

01:23:26.120 So, like, women can literally

01:23:27.060 do whatever they want.

01:23:27.980 Well, part of the reason

01:23:28.840 why men...

01:23:29.640 They're going to pick

01:23:30.120 the best guy.

01:23:30.760 Part of the reason

01:23:31.280 why historically men

01:23:32.480 weren't spreading their seed

01:23:33.360 is they were dying

01:23:33.980 in the mines

01:23:34.400 and they were dying in war

01:23:35.360 because the way

01:23:35.900 that society dealt

01:23:36.700 with what we call,

01:23:37.520 like, the young male syndrome,

01:23:38.640 which is a real issue

01:23:39.540 of young men

01:23:40.160 that don't have mates

01:23:40.940 because typically young men

01:23:41.940 don't actually get mates

01:23:42.840 because you guys are immature

01:23:43.740 and have to grow up

01:23:44.440 a little bit.

01:23:45.000 This has always been

01:23:45.640 historically true.

01:23:46.720 This is absolutely true.

01:23:48.360 This is what war is fed

01:23:49.540 because a major issue

01:23:50.720 in all nation states

01:23:51.740 when they were beginning,

01:23:52.580 you can go back

01:23:53.060 to, like, the 700s,

01:23:54.240 is the question

01:23:55.020 of the young male issue.

01:23:56.280 Young men are more violent,

01:23:57.840 more aggressive,

01:23:58.480 and stupid.

01:23:59.080 And you guys often

01:24:00.240 have to get shipped off

01:24:01.140 to bad places.

01:24:02.040 Now, I love

01:24:02.740 the Western civilization

01:24:04.140 where we don't do that

01:24:05.060 to young men

01:24:05.440 because I think

01:24:05.900 that's fucked up.

01:24:06.520 Yeah, we do.

01:24:07.240 No, we don't.

01:24:07.620 We don't send men...

01:24:08.820 We're not killing off men

01:24:09.980 in the numbers

01:24:10.580 that were regulated

01:24:11.520 in history,

01:24:12.440 and I think that

01:24:12.860 that's good.

01:24:13.240 Okay, sure,

01:24:13.740 but we still have drafts

01:24:14.640 and we still have war.

01:24:15.280 Sure, but the issue

01:24:16.040 is when you talk about,

01:24:16.980 like, men aren't spreading

01:24:18.140 their seed in history,

01:24:19.140 it's because they were dying.

01:24:20.660 All right, real quick.

01:24:21.340 Do you have one last thing,

01:24:22.380 Jess, before you go?

01:24:23.240 It's been three minutes.

01:24:24.320 One last thing

01:24:25.000 you want to say?

01:24:27.480 I'm a veteran.

01:24:30.840 I just want to...

01:24:31.760 I do want to make

01:24:32.780 one point additionally

01:24:33.920 because I was talking

01:24:34.640 about collectivism

01:24:35.240 a moment ago,

01:24:36.100 and I feel like with Myron

01:24:37.440 saying, like, all men,

01:24:39.080 all women,

01:24:39.800 and just coming at

01:24:40.920 your audience

01:24:41.780 with that narrative,

01:24:42.900 it leaves out

01:24:44.080 the traditional view,

01:24:45.980 kind of like Tim was saying,

01:24:47.040 of I'm 23

01:24:47.980 and I meet someone

01:24:48.940 and do this,

01:24:49.520 and you grow with

01:24:50.240 that person together.

01:24:51.200 Like, I was with my husband

01:24:52.220 while I was going

01:24:53.200 through college.

01:24:54.000 Yeah, that's great,

01:24:54.560 but I mean,

01:24:54.940 but you're an exception

01:24:55.500 to the rule.

01:24:56.260 Okay, but...

01:24:58.040 No.

01:24:59.040 You have a selection

01:24:59.940 bias, Myron.

01:25:00.860 Your 23-year-old girls

01:25:02.320 are not going to do that.

01:25:02.980 No, I'm sorry.

01:25:04.340 This is just not true.

01:25:05.520 Like, when you look

01:25:06.080 at dating,

01:25:06.620 typically women are going

01:25:07.380 to date people

01:25:07.940 within their economic

01:25:08.920 and their age bracket.

01:25:11.400 The reason why your data...

01:25:12.940 Utsav, real quick.

01:25:13.820 Utsav.

01:25:14.820 Utsav Sanduja.

01:25:17.420 The reason why

01:25:19.160 your show

01:25:20.040 has such a bad

01:25:20.800 selection bias

01:25:21.580 is because most women

01:25:22.680 don't want to go on

01:25:23.520 to get, like,

01:25:24.040 bullied by the audience

01:25:24.940 forever.

01:25:25.640 However,

01:25:26.160 if you have an OnlyFans,

01:25:27.880 you absolutely want

01:25:29.100 to go on whatever

01:25:29.720 and your show

01:25:30.360 to promote it.

01:25:31.000 So you just...

01:25:31.380 Counterpoint.

01:25:31.660 You just do have

01:25:32.100 a selection bias.

01:25:32.880 The women who tend

01:25:33.600 to write articles

01:25:34.740 for large publications

01:25:35.780 are single and childless.

01:25:37.660 True.

01:25:37.820 And so the media

01:25:38.540 that's going out

01:25:39.140 to women

01:25:39.460 at the more affluent level

01:25:41.340 tends to be feminist childless.

01:25:42.900 I would actually argue

01:25:43.820 most, like,

01:25:44.480 third-wave feminism

01:25:45.260 underserved most women

01:25:46.580 as well.

01:25:47.000 In fact,

01:25:47.380 it only benefited women

01:25:48.360 like myself

01:25:48.880 or maybe Kat

01:25:49.500 who are, like,

01:25:49.760 more up with it.

01:25:50.680 All right,

01:25:50.880 who's up?

01:25:51.240 What do you got for us?

01:25:51.820 No, just nuanced.

01:25:52.540 Hey, Myron,

01:25:53.240 it's me,

01:25:53.480 your favorite d***.

01:25:54.420 We debated

01:25:55.080 in the next while back.

01:25:56.940 What was that?

01:25:57.580 He's your favorite d***.

01:25:58.600 Yeah, favorite d***.

01:25:59.360 Okay.

01:26:00.020 What's up, man?

01:26:00.600 Yo, brother.

01:26:01.520 God bless you.

01:26:02.360 Assalamualaikum.

01:26:03.600 So,

01:26:04.120 I know you're

01:26:04.680 Islamist,

01:26:05.320 allegedly.

01:26:06.200 My question

01:26:06.660 is very straightforward.

01:26:07.860 In the age of AI,

01:26:09.220 does it really matter

01:26:10.080 if it's, you know,

01:26:11.380 a male versus female debate?

01:26:13.140 Because we're all

01:26:13.480 going to get replaced anyway.

01:26:15.140 Wall Street Journal,

01:26:15.880 which is our favorite newspaper,

01:26:17.560 you know,

01:26:17.720 Trump doesn't like them.

01:26:18.620 I don't blame him.

01:26:19.720 They talk about how

01:26:20.680 a lot of our jobs

01:26:22.200 are going to be replaced

01:26:23.080 by these freaking bots.

01:26:24.660 There's a lot of sectors

01:26:25.780 that are just going to be

01:26:26.720 wholesale replaced.

01:26:28.320 We're all f***ed.

01:26:29.120 I'm sorry to swear.

01:26:29.420 No, let me tell you something.

01:26:30.540 You're the biggest threat,

01:26:31.620 you stupid Indian

01:26:32.360 with your DEI bullshit.

01:26:34.000 I'm not worried

01:26:35.040 about some damn AI

01:26:36.280 taking my job.

01:26:37.500 I'm worried about you

01:26:38.700 decens coming over here

01:26:40.160 and making chicken

01:26:41.260 tikka masala

01:26:42.160 in the damn company microwave

01:26:44.240 and stinking up

01:26:45.240 the whole place

01:26:45.780 like curry.

01:26:47.240 AI didn't know

01:26:48.180 how to use a microwave.

01:26:49.300 So let me tell you

01:26:50.100 my favorite friend

01:26:50.960 who is a n***er.

01:26:52.500 I love you.

01:26:54.960 Shalom.

01:26:56.080 God bless you.

01:26:57.340 Peace be with you.

01:26:58.840 And whatever sky God

01:27:00.060 you believe in,

01:27:00.700 I wish all the best to you.

01:27:01.660 Hey, wait, wait, hold on.

01:27:02.240 I got a counterpoint.

01:27:03.620 That AI software company

01:27:04.900 tried to be 700 Indians.

01:27:07.320 That's not a joke.

01:27:08.520 You're in.

01:27:09.440 Honestly,

01:27:10.160 I just don't care anymore, guys.

01:27:11.900 You just are all jealous.

01:27:12.840 I don't give a fuck.

01:27:13.860 I am jealous.

01:27:15.400 I'm terrible at using my computer.

01:27:17.600 I wish I knew how to use it better.

01:27:18.700 It just goes through me.

01:27:20.080 I have a question for you.

01:27:21.240 What's up?

01:27:21.740 Do you know how much money

01:27:22.940 OpenAI made

01:27:24.600 in this last financial year?

01:27:25.740 Too much money.

01:27:26.640 Do you know how much?

01:27:28.120 Okay, good response.

01:27:29.220 Do you know how much, though?

01:27:30.020 I'm just curious.

01:27:30.520 No, I don't know, ma'am.

01:27:31.200 Okay, they made 20 million.

01:27:32.280 Do you know how much they spent

01:27:33.260 to afford their data centers

01:27:35.180 and the electricity

01:27:36.000 that's required for them?

01:27:37.000 A lot of R&Ds put in a lot of money.

01:27:38.320 28 billion.

01:27:39.260 Yeah, it's a lot.

01:27:40.040 They lost a lot of money.

01:27:41.240 So this idea that bots

01:27:42.280 are going to replace us,

01:27:43.380 somewhat,

01:27:44.040 there's always,

01:27:44.660 with automation,

01:27:45.580 we see a shrinkage

01:27:46.460 of labor jobs.

01:27:47.560 We saw this with farming

01:27:48.340 and mining

01:27:48.780 when we got tractors

01:27:49.900 and shit like that,

01:27:50.720 which is bad for the...

01:27:55.460 But how much has Uncle Sam

01:27:56.860 put into OpenAI?

01:27:57.800 That's what I want to know.

01:27:58.760 That's absolutely not true.

01:28:00.060 This is what ChatGPT5 is,

01:28:01.400 actually.

01:28:02.000 What do you have?

01:28:03.280 Is it's a cheaper version

01:28:04.700 of ChatGP4.

01:28:05.500 I'm going to disprove

01:28:06.480 your argument

01:28:07.080 because I ordered Chipotle

01:28:08.580 and they got the order wrong

01:28:09.780 and DoorDash doesn't have

01:28:12.580 a phone to call.

01:28:13.300 It's a robot.

01:28:14.260 So I called Chipotle

01:28:15.940 on the phone

01:28:17.040 and a robot answered

01:28:18.080 and it literally said,

01:28:19.140 there is no one

01:28:19.700 who can answer the phone for you.

01:28:20.960 We want Gurpreet's back

01:28:21.960 and AI out.

01:28:22.780 That's true.

01:28:23.520 Get those AI out of there, man.

01:28:24.540 All right, sit down.

01:28:25.600 Sit down.

01:28:26.380 We love you, though.

01:28:27.080 God bless.

01:28:27.740 I love Israel,

01:28:28.780 greatest ally.

01:28:31.280 Well, hi,

01:28:31.760 and we love you.

01:28:32.580 We love it.

01:28:33.100 Benjamin Netanyahu sent him.

01:28:34.380 All right, Adam Irving.

01:28:36.160 Is Adam Irving here?

01:28:37.460 Come on down, Adam Irving.

01:28:38.560 Get your ass down here.

01:28:39.440 I see him in the back.

01:28:40.180 Come on down.

01:28:40.600 Give it up for Adam Irving.

01:28:42.220 Give it up for Utah.

01:28:43.420 Thank you.

01:28:44.580 We love our Indian brothers

01:28:45.700 and sisters.

01:28:47.620 This guy is going slow.

01:28:48.180 Keep him over there, though.

01:28:49.180 Yeah, I know.

01:28:49.920 Keep the deodorant Dodgers

01:28:50.820 back over there.

01:28:51.480 They made zero.

01:28:53.600 They made zero.

01:28:54.520 Open A made zero.

01:28:55.800 How much did they lose?

01:28:56.360 They lost $5 billion

01:28:57.480 on $3.7 billion in revenue.

01:28:59.040 All right,

01:28:59.300 what do you got for us, Adam?

01:29:00.460 Yeah.

01:29:01.280 They're in a deficit.

01:29:02.120 I just wanted to say

01:29:03.160 that Jesus Christ

01:29:04.160 is the King of kings

01:29:05.020 and the Lord of lords.

01:29:08.900 I think that everybody

01:29:10.520 has a worldview

01:29:11.380 and that everybody

01:29:12.480 stands on that foundation.

01:29:13.900 and when we all have opinions

01:29:20.120 and so forth,

01:29:21.340 it boils down to that foundation

01:29:24.220 you're standing on.

01:29:27.040 Meaning,

01:29:29.020 What was that?

01:29:32.600 Yeah, come on.

01:29:33.320 Keep going.

01:29:34.040 You thought this one through.

01:29:35.240 Yeah.

01:29:35.780 To all your points,

01:29:37.060 like to every single one

01:29:38.100 of those points.

01:29:38.620 It all comes down to Jesus, right?

01:29:40.500 Is that what you're saying?

01:29:41.180 Wait, were you the guy

01:29:41.980 that was shouting the most?

01:29:43.080 Who said you were going

01:29:43.880 to come up?

01:29:44.440 Oh, that was somebody

01:29:45.100 over here, okay.

01:29:46.560 What I'm saying is that

01:29:48.080 your foundation

01:29:48.920 that you stand on

01:29:50.160 is where you're going

01:29:50.940 to line up

01:29:51.860 with the way you conduct

01:29:53.080 yourself in the world.

01:29:54.700 That's not true.

01:29:55.480 That's true.

01:29:56.060 We've got all these atheists

01:29:57.020 and one Christian, okay?

01:29:58.500 I'm the only one

01:29:59.320 who's based and believes

01:30:00.280 in Jesus.

01:30:00.860 All of you sinners.

01:30:02.220 Doesn't the Bible say

01:30:03.020 that women should be silent

01:30:03.920 and obey their husbands, though?

01:30:05.020 It does,

01:30:05.760 but it also says

01:30:06.360 men submit yourselves

01:30:07.260 to women in the way

01:30:07.880 that Christ died for the church.

01:30:09.380 Oh, wow.

01:30:10.580 Ruh, ruh, ruh.

01:30:11.540 It does.

01:30:12.280 Look it up.

01:30:13.080 Listen, we love Jesus Christ,

01:30:14.580 but no, get down.

01:30:16.160 All right, sit down.

01:30:16.660 Come up.

01:30:17.320 All right, hey,

01:30:17.780 the guy with the backwards hat,

01:30:19.000 the guy, he was here last time.

01:30:20.560 Were you the one shouting?

01:30:21.560 You want to say something

01:30:22.120 for a minute?

01:30:22.760 Yeah, get to it.

01:30:23.380 Uh-oh.

01:30:23.980 I know this guy.

01:30:24.720 T-Bone.

01:30:25.420 Yeah, give it up.

01:30:26.520 T-Bone.

01:30:27.000 T-Bone.

01:30:27.520 T-Bone.

01:30:28.120 T-Bone's a good guy.

01:30:29.160 I like T-Bone.

01:30:29.780 I couldn't think of his name.

01:30:30.580 T-Bone's funny.

01:30:31.200 All right, T-Bone,

01:30:31.680 what do you got for us?

01:30:32.720 All right, hey, guys.

01:30:33.380 Let's go, D.C.

01:30:34.700 Thank you so much, Tim.

01:30:35.560 This is a great event.

01:30:37.200 So my question,

01:30:37.940 you guys were talking about it earlier

01:30:38.940 about the women in military and such.

01:30:44.620 So, Kyla, you were actually saying

01:30:46.040 that you want women in the military

01:30:48.360 for the draft.

01:30:49.620 Myron, you were saying

01:30:50.240 that you kind of don't want women

01:30:52.200 in the military.

01:30:53.120 So, Kyla, you say that you want them?

01:30:55.020 I said they either are part

01:30:56.880 of the selector draft or they're not.

01:30:57.980 It should be equal between men and women

01:30:59.380 when it comes to voting.

01:31:00.220 So, if they were supposed

01:31:01.200 to go into the draft,

01:31:02.100 what exactly would you want them to do?

01:31:04.280 Like, would you want them

01:31:04.780 to be a nurse, a mechanic,

01:31:06.380 or would you want them

01:31:07.080 to be on the front lines

01:31:08.200 in, like, combat roles?

01:31:10.040 I feel like you think

01:31:10.820 that this is a crazy feminist gotcha.

01:31:12.520 My answer is pretty nuanced.

01:31:13.900 I want aptitude tests,

01:31:14.900 and I want them to be in the spots

01:31:16.040 that they would best serve the military.

01:31:17.660 Yeah, T-Bone,

01:31:18.160 that's not a good gotcha.

01:31:19.000 Go sit down.

01:31:19.620 That's not.

01:31:20.980 Thanks, Try, though.

01:31:22.420 I really had higher expectations.

01:31:24.200 Yeah, I did, too.

01:31:25.440 Barry from Brooklyn.

01:31:26.380 Come on down.

01:31:26.820 We got some people

01:31:27.500 we got to get through.

01:31:28.140 We only got about

01:31:28.820 less than 20 minutes left,

01:31:30.560 so about 26 minutes.

01:31:32.040 All right, what do you got for us, Barry?

01:31:32.880 What's up?

01:31:33.160 This is the second time

01:31:33.800 I drove from Brooklyn.

01:31:34.640 Five hours to get here,

01:31:35.620 so I'm glad to be here.

01:31:36.520 Yeah!

01:31:37.500 My city sucks,

01:31:38.560 so don't come back.

01:31:39.660 Don't ever come.

01:31:40.340 I'm trying to leave, too.

01:31:41.140 It's horrible.

01:31:41.880 Anyways, there are 70 Muslim countries

01:31:44.100 in the world,

01:31:45.140 maybe a little bit more.

01:31:46.780 How do you...

01:31:47.780 This is for the feminists on the side.

01:31:49.520 Do you think that...

01:31:50.100 Shut up!

01:31:50.700 Do you think that

01:31:51.540 those men are going to respect

01:31:53.960 women leaders?

01:31:54.980 Look at the countries like Germany.

01:31:56.260 Not a great country.

01:31:57.660 It's a beautiful country,

01:31:58.740 but not great.

01:31:59.560 Look at England.

01:32:00.060 They're just like every Mohammedan.

01:32:01.780 So because they're submissive

01:32:02.760 to these Muslim nations,

01:32:04.440 what do you think is the best...

01:32:06.520 Do you think that women

01:32:07.780 are going to be respected

01:32:08.480 by these men leaders

01:32:09.440 in Muslim countries?

01:32:10.600 You know what they're going to respect?

01:32:11.920 The F-15.

01:32:12.620 They don't even let women drive.

01:32:13.260 The F-15.

01:32:14.060 That's what they're going to respect.

01:32:15.120 So I'm not super worried about it.

01:32:16.240 The American military

01:32:17.100 is the most predominant thing

01:32:18.480 on the planet,

01:32:19.100 and the reality is that

01:32:19.980 whoever is wearing

01:32:20.680 the American name,

01:32:21.640 they're going to respect

01:32:22.280 because they should.

01:32:22.960 I think we've got to be honest.

01:32:24.800 Come on.

01:32:25.060 If Kamala tried to negotiate

01:32:26.360 with Saudi Arabia...

01:32:27.620 I don't know what to tell you.

01:32:30.260 Who invaded after she visited?

01:32:32.520 Come on, man.

01:32:34.000 The reality is that

01:32:35.100 our economic ties

01:32:36.060 are so strong

01:32:36.640 with these countries

01:32:37.160 and the military.

01:32:38.000 Yeah, they'd probably

01:32:38.920 behind the scenes

01:32:39.880 be like,

01:32:40.300 man, fuck that bitch.

01:32:41.340 She's a stupid woman.

01:32:42.420 The issue is that

01:32:43.120 it's still America

01:32:43.900 that they have to negotiate with

01:32:45.060 and they're going to care.

01:32:45.960 Not just here,

01:32:46.720 but I'm talking about

01:32:47.160 other countries.

01:32:47.860 There are many countries

01:32:48.880 and there's 207 countries

01:32:50.220 in the world

01:32:50.600 and a few of them

01:32:51.580 are ran by women,

01:32:52.180 but do you think

01:32:52.660 the men in these Muslim countries

01:32:54.100 are going to respect

01:32:54.700 these women as leaders?

01:32:56.480 So again...

01:32:57.200 No, they're not.

01:32:57.680 Well, now we have to be...

01:32:58.220 Wait, it's clearly not.

01:32:58.820 Okay, so you just want

01:32:59.540 to say no.

01:33:00.060 Okay, well,

01:33:00.520 if you want to have

01:33:01.000 your own conversation

01:33:01.760 on a mic,

01:33:02.460 go for it.

01:33:03.500 Mary, I wouldn't call you up

01:33:04.480 but you're Jewish

01:33:05.020 and I don't want Myron

01:33:05.600 to kill you.

01:33:06.500 I'm an Italian Jew.

01:33:07.620 I'm morally bad

01:33:08.360 and that's all that matters.

01:33:09.280 True.

01:33:09.460 It's better to be morally right

01:33:10.880 than factually correct.

01:33:11.980 True.

01:33:13.100 All right, go sit down.

01:33:14.220 Supa, come on down.

01:33:15.540 Supa, is Supa here?

01:33:16.980 Supa Fox?

01:33:17.740 Does anybody know

01:33:18.260 who the hell that is?

01:33:19.020 Yeah, he's out his way.

01:33:20.880 All right, Supa,

01:33:21.600 come on down.

01:33:23.060 I can see when I do this.

01:33:24.160 Is that your name?

01:33:25.220 Yes, my name's Supa.

01:33:26.260 How are you?

01:33:27.340 Supa Fox is your actual name?

01:33:28.720 Fox is my actual name.

01:33:29.700 He's a furry.

01:33:30.760 Don't judge.

01:33:32.380 And I'm sorry

01:33:33.160 that I forgot your name.

01:33:35.000 Don't worry about it.

01:33:35.680 Kyla, Kyla.

01:33:36.860 That was a great joke

01:33:37.700 that you had earlier

01:33:38.380 where you pointed out

01:33:39.300 that it is actually gay

01:33:41.040 to handle money.

01:33:42.440 The Spartans were right about that.

01:33:43.120 That wasn't a joke.

01:33:43.740 I was talking about Spartans

01:33:44.980 and how they view it.

01:33:45.400 Yes, yes.

01:33:45.860 The Spartans were right about that.

01:33:46.880 It's gay to handle money.

01:33:47.840 But it's not gay to

01:33:48.920 wrestle your bro in Greece.

01:33:52.460 Oh, you're talking about like,

01:33:53.300 I don't know what to tell you.

01:33:54.880 Like, Spartans would look at you

01:33:56.200 and snap.

01:33:56.860 What do you even look?

01:33:57.700 Yeah, a Spartan would walk up to you,

01:33:59.500 punch you in the face

01:34:00.100 and snap you over his back.

01:34:01.180 I don't know why.

01:34:01.800 You're being like,

01:34:02.240 oh, they're gay because they wrestle.

01:34:03.580 I don't know what to tell you.

01:34:04.200 They're the peak of masculinity

01:34:05.060 and they get fucked.

01:34:05.700 It's called a joke.

01:34:07.100 Okay.

01:34:07.420 Bro, in Sparta,

01:34:08.320 the only way for a guy

01:34:09.420 to get a tombstone

01:34:10.280 was to die.

01:34:11.400 And the only way a woman

01:34:12.460 could get a tombstone

01:34:13.620 was to die in childbirth.

01:34:14.740 Yeah.

01:34:15.200 Otherwise, fuck you.

01:34:17.280 All great jokes.

01:34:18.160 All right, well,

01:34:18.440 this isn't Sparta.

01:34:19.300 Go sit down.

01:34:20.120 All right, Edgar the Puppet.

01:34:22.420 Come on down.

01:34:22.980 Edgar, hurry.

01:34:23.640 Get your ass up here.

01:34:24.420 We love Edgar.

01:34:25.840 We got to get to Edgar.

01:34:27.960 Hey, Alex,

01:34:29.220 can I come up?

01:34:30.100 Can I just fucking come up?

01:34:30.780 Yeah, I guess.

01:34:31.560 Just come up.

01:34:32.520 Let me switch hands

01:34:33.700 because my spirit animal

01:34:34.920 has to adjust.

01:34:35.520 Don't suck.

01:34:35.760 Just come up here, Edgar.

01:34:36.820 Gosh dang it.

01:34:37.480 We all have so much time.

01:34:38.740 Give it up, guys.

01:34:39.260 Give it up.

01:34:39.740 We got a couple other names

01:34:40.180 we have to pull.

01:34:40.960 So give it up for Edgar the Puppet.

01:34:43.000 You think he's...

01:34:43.760 He's a racist blue puppet,

01:34:45.520 sexist, misogynistic puppet.

01:34:47.220 Nice.

01:34:47.680 We love him.

01:34:50.240 Okay, what do you got for us?

01:34:54.100 Greetings, bitches.

01:34:54.980 I represent Ask America

01:34:56.880 with Edgar,

01:34:57.620 the number one fascist puppet show

01:35:00.120 in D.C.

01:35:00.600 It is a YouTube channel.

01:35:02.320 Thank you for inviting me up here.

01:35:04.120 Please do not pay attention

01:35:05.320 to my spirit animal here.

01:35:06.740 He has nothing important to say.

01:35:08.400 It is all...

01:35:09.240 You know what's better

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01:35:11.660 Two big things.

01:35:13.000 Exactly.

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01:35:18.680 Yep, it's the most powerful iPhone ever.

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01:35:32.580 Oh, me.

01:35:35.980 Okay, listen.

01:35:37.520 I just want to say

01:35:38.880 the problem is...

01:35:40.760 I side with the hotties

01:35:42.400 on the far right side,

01:35:45.020 Kat and Kyla.

01:35:46.140 Absolutely, 100%.

01:35:47.460 I'm against this

01:35:48.960 Saudi Arabian virgin right here.

01:35:51.660 Absolutely.

01:35:52.700 Sorry.

01:35:53.320 Sorry, Myron.

01:35:54.740 You know, listen.

01:35:56.400 I believe the problem

01:35:57.400 is not feminism.

01:35:59.100 The problem is

01:36:00.360 the feminization of men.

01:36:03.520 Yes.

01:36:04.320 Yes.

01:36:04.920 Yes, it is.

01:36:05.840 Yes, it is.

01:36:06.300 Men, you have to take ownership

01:36:07.600 of your own problems

01:36:08.440 and I want 100% tariff

01:36:10.420 on cuck chairs

01:36:11.700 until we figure out

01:36:12.800 what the hell is going on.

01:36:14.760 Myron, that's a good point.

01:36:15.760 What do you think about

01:36:16.200 all these men that are cucks

01:36:17.420 and it's like a normalizing destiny?

01:36:19.400 That's a weird thing

01:36:20.340 that's normalized.

01:36:21.440 Yeah.

01:36:22.500 Look, I like destiny,

01:36:23.460 but I get a lot of them.

01:36:25.080 I know, but he sucks

01:36:26.020 d**k on camera.

01:36:27.160 He does suck a lot of d**k.

01:36:28.780 He sucks acres of d**k, Myron.

01:36:30.020 He does revenge porn

01:36:31.120 and d**k girls and d**k guys

01:36:33.500 so he's like a sexual pervert.

01:36:34.520 He would d**k his own face

01:36:35.820 if given the opportunity, Myron.

01:36:37.180 And his own son hates him

01:36:38.600 and thinks he's a retard,

01:36:39.600 but I know he's a really good guy.

01:36:40.280 I feel like Alex needs to talk to destiny.

01:36:41.760 You don't like destiny.

01:36:42.600 Weak men.

01:36:43.200 I like him.

01:36:44.140 I think he's awesome.

01:36:45.200 His son hates him.

01:36:46.100 Sure.

01:36:46.960 Wait, Myron, Myron, Myron.

01:36:48.940 Can we talk about

01:36:50.020 the great uncucking of Alex Stein

01:36:52.400 who up to a few months ago

01:36:54.160 until he decided to lose weight

01:36:55.760 was a complete grotty unfuckable

01:36:58.320 who no one would run either.

01:36:59.380 That's not true.

01:36:59.900 I got more b**ty than that puppet ever got.

01:37:01.720 No, no, no.

01:37:02.400 Give me that f**king of my pussy.

01:37:05.140 Give me that f**king of my pussy.

01:37:07.260 You abusive bitch.

01:37:08.960 I am.

01:37:10.280 No, no one would even get near you.

01:37:12.220 That's right, but I was f**king when I was fat.

01:37:13.920 I just want that to know.

01:37:14.420 No, you gave up bread and sugar.

01:37:16.180 You gave up bread and sugar.

01:37:17.100 I just f**k better now.

01:37:17.760 No, you gave up 40 pounds.

01:37:19.700 You used to be a fat, disgusting f**k,

01:37:21.600 and I'm so proud of you, man.

01:37:22.900 Thank you.

01:37:23.480 I love you.

01:37:23.980 It actually feels good.

01:37:24.640 You're a Myron puppet.

01:37:25.660 I love you, too.

01:37:25.980 Alex Stein is the only man

01:37:27.020 who can put his hand in my puppet hole

01:37:28.660 with consent.

01:37:29.560 And it's not gay.

01:37:30.400 Let me, let me, let me.

01:37:31.100 I want to address this.

01:37:31.700 I want to say

01:37:32.060 there are,

01:37:34.380 I'm sick of,

01:37:35.380 who was it?

01:37:35.920 Was it Carl Benjamin

01:37:36.860 who said,

01:37:37.680 all these guys online

01:37:38.700 complaining about women,

01:37:39.380 stop acting like f**king women?

01:37:41.080 Like, the point he's making

01:37:42.180 is that they go online

01:37:43.200 and say,

01:37:43.400 oh, women do this,

01:37:44.020 women do that.

01:37:44.380 It's like,

01:37:44.580 stop f**king complaining.

01:37:45.360 You're a man, okay?

01:37:46.400 Go carve yourself out of stone,

01:37:47.760 get shoved in the mud,

01:37:48.660 and crawl until you make

01:37:49.660 something of yourself,

01:37:50.460 and stop b**ching on everybody else.

01:37:51.720 All right,

01:37:52.020 and Angelina Belcamino,

01:37:54.200 Belcamino,

01:37:54.840 come on down.

01:37:56.320 She'll kick you off.

01:37:57.140 Come on down.

01:37:58.040 Come on down.

01:37:58.640 I love her.

01:37:59.400 What do you got?

01:37:59.920 You can say something.

01:38:00.940 No, no, Edgar,

01:38:01.420 you can say something to her.

01:38:02.160 She's 40, no kids.

01:38:03.340 Yeah, look,

01:38:03.640 I believe I'm the perfect person

01:38:05.380 to bridge this divide

01:38:06.520 because I'm ostensibly male,

01:38:09.700 but I never feel so alive

01:38:11.080 as when a man is inside me.

01:38:13.340 Well, congratulations.

01:38:14.920 Thank you.

01:38:15.380 I'll be here all week.

01:38:16.220 I'm so glad

01:38:16.880 Conservative saved comedy.

01:38:18.000 Subscribe on YouTube,

01:38:19.060 you bitches.

01:38:19.660 A bold lib joining us.

01:38:20.880 Come on, bold lib.

01:38:21.820 Give it up for Edgar.

01:38:26.460 The boldest lib on the internet.

01:38:29.440 Hello.

01:38:29.720 What do you got for us?

01:38:31.000 Well, first of all,

01:38:31.920 I'm sitting next to Myron,

01:38:32.980 so I want to say

01:38:34.880 the world is healing.

01:38:37.900 I have a question for you, Tim.

01:38:39.460 I wanted to know

01:38:40.120 if a woman was working

01:38:41.860 like you were dealing with

01:38:42.780 at the casino last night,

01:38:43.820 if your issue

01:38:44.400 would have been resolved.

01:38:45.680 If a woman was working?

01:38:46.760 Yeah.

01:38:47.140 What do you mean?

01:38:47.940 That you were going to

01:38:50.000 with the problem

01:38:50.740 you were having.

01:38:51.060 It was both men and women

01:38:52.620 who told me to go fuck myself.

01:38:53.880 Okay, so no one had you.

01:38:55.640 I feel like men

01:38:56.440 are better managers

01:38:57.500 than women.

01:38:59.460 Like a casino or something.

01:39:01.580 Casino employees

01:39:02.300 are usually better as men,

01:39:03.340 to be honest.

01:39:04.480 Why?

01:39:05.140 I don't know,

01:39:05.900 because it's money,

01:39:06.720 it's more masculine.

01:39:07.760 There are female gamblers.

01:39:10.300 I think they sucked equally

01:39:14.020 in different ways.

01:39:15.660 And this is actually

01:39:16.640 more of a robot question.

01:39:18.120 Because I'm not going to get

01:39:18.720 into the full details

01:39:19.480 of what happened,

01:39:20.140 but basically a robot

01:39:20.900 stole money from me.

01:39:21.800 And everybody looked,

01:39:24.160 bro, it was a room

01:39:25.640 full of managers

01:39:26.520 with their thumbs up

01:39:27.220 their asses being like,

01:39:28.080 there's nothing we can do

01:39:28.800 because the robot said so.

01:39:29.800 I'm like,

01:39:30.040 what the fuck

01:39:30.600 are you talking about?

01:39:31.460 So both men and women

01:39:32.340 equally had their thumbs

01:39:33.340 up their asses.

01:39:34.140 Okay, I was curious.

01:39:35.460 I also wanted to push back

01:39:36.480 on something that Myron said.

01:39:38.080 Please, because that,

01:39:38.980 yeah, let's talk about

01:39:39.620 something interesting,

01:39:40.300 not Tim's gambling addiction.

01:39:41.640 Let's talk about,

01:39:42.260 hey, hey.

01:39:42.700 Come on, sorry, sorry, Tim.

01:39:44.640 You know, just about women

01:39:46.000 not knowing what they want.

01:39:47.760 I wanted to push back on them

01:39:48.920 and say,

01:39:49.260 I do know what I want

01:39:50.100 and it's not that.

01:39:51.300 Okay.

01:39:51.880 I'm pretty sure,

01:39:52.780 like, I don't want to hear

01:39:53.520 that I'm stupid and weak

01:39:55.360 and things like,

01:39:56.480 I'm having a hard time

01:39:57.820 understanding how you're

01:39:58.880 so good at empathy

01:40:00.080 when, you know.

01:40:01.740 Yeah, women don't tend

01:40:02.520 to like the truth,

01:40:03.140 which is fine.

01:40:03.760 No big deal.

01:40:04.760 I'll just be,

01:40:05.360 continue to be toxic

01:40:05.980 and masculine

01:40:06.380 and women love that.

01:40:07.160 Well, I got a question.

01:40:07.980 Do they?

01:40:08.380 Real quick.

01:40:09.360 Yeah, actually,

01:40:09.960 women love guys

01:40:10.780 that can tell them

01:40:11.640 that they're dumb

01:40:12.300 and shut up

01:40:13.080 and to, you know,

01:40:13.940 be assertive.

01:40:15.440 No, they don't.

01:40:16.220 Here's an honest question.

01:40:17.100 What percent of women

01:40:18.340 actually prefer

01:40:19.460 to be submissive

01:40:20.280 and dominated by men

01:40:21.160 who are aggressive with them?

01:40:22.220 That's an honest question.

01:40:24.140 I mean, it's not me.

01:40:26.100 I don't know the statistics

01:40:27.040 on that.

01:40:27.940 Women are more subby-wubby

01:40:29.220 than they are,

01:40:29.840 but the issue is,

01:40:30.420 like, being a sub

01:40:31.140 is not the same thing

01:40:32.120 as being, like,

01:40:32.940 abused and berated.

01:40:34.180 These are not the same thing.

01:40:35.640 Bernie Sanders wrote about that,

01:40:37.040 how women like to go home

01:40:37.860 and fantasize about being raped.

01:40:38.960 They do, right?

01:40:40.080 Like, and in the same way

01:40:41.000 that, like, men like to fantasize

01:40:42.180 about, like, fucking, like,

01:40:43.040 magical, like, troll girls.

01:40:44.260 Like, yes, we all fantasize

01:40:45.800 about weird, stupid shit, right?

01:40:47.460 The issue is that, like,

01:40:48.400 you know, in the case

01:40:49.060 of, like, my marriage, okay,

01:40:50.420 yeah, my husband is my leader

01:40:51.820 and I respect him,

01:40:53.340 but part of why I feel that way

01:40:55.680 towards Nick

01:40:56.420 is because he respects me,

01:40:58.320 he cares about me.

01:40:59.220 When we disagree

01:41:00.080 and it comes to, like,

01:41:01.400 who's gonna be right,

01:41:02.520 I know that, like,

01:41:03.100 nine times out of ten

01:41:03.800 he, like, has my best interest in mind.

01:41:05.460 It's not just because

01:41:06.060 he's, like, this male superior.

01:41:07.600 And if you're, like,

01:41:08.240 a lot of these men be like,

01:41:09.100 yeah, men do need to tough it up.

01:41:10.260 He is superior

01:41:10.840 because you're deferring

01:41:11.860 to his authority.

01:41:12.400 See, women don't want

01:41:13.020 to acknowledge the fact

01:41:13.860 that they want a guy

01:41:15.660 that can tell them

01:41:16.500 what to do

01:41:17.220 and can make the decision.

01:41:18.520 Women want to sit there

01:41:19.120 and be like, oh, well,

01:41:19.880 we're equal.

01:41:20.480 But in reality,

01:41:21.140 when push comes to shove,

01:41:22.400 they want to be able

01:41:22.840 to follow your lead.

01:41:22.940 Well, the issue, Myron,

01:41:24.060 is that I'm able

01:41:25.020 to look at the world

01:41:25.780 and recognize

01:41:27.180 that some people

01:41:28.000 are good at some things

01:41:28.940 and other people

01:41:29.580 are good at other things.

01:41:30.520 And both of these people

01:41:31.360 have moral value.

01:41:31.860 Women suck at everything

01:41:32.420 that matters.

01:41:33.020 That's not true?

01:41:33.940 Have a fucking baby.

01:41:35.640 Good luck.

01:41:36.140 That's the only thing

01:41:36.620 you can do

01:41:36.920 but you still need

01:41:37.340 a man for that?

01:41:38.000 Oh, it's almost like

01:41:38.760 raising a child

01:41:39.360 is the most important

01:41:40.360 thing for society.

01:41:41.220 Haven't we been talking

01:41:41.920 about declining birth rates

01:41:42.920 and how important

01:41:43.560 child rearing is

01:41:44.400 and now all of a sudden

01:41:45.040 it's been like,

01:41:45.460 oh, all they are good

01:41:46.480 for is a womb.

01:41:47.080 Yeah, but you need a man

01:41:47.100 for that.

01:41:47.580 Then buy a womb.

01:41:48.140 And anything where both

01:41:49.100 men and women can compete

01:41:50.300 and both of them

01:41:51.140 can actually do it,

01:41:51.720 men are better.

01:41:52.540 I would argue this.

01:41:53.960 Like, for my marriage,

01:41:55.280 it's, I'm basically

01:41:56.660 in charge of externalities.

01:41:57.840 She's in charge of internality,

01:41:58.960 like internal issues.

01:42:00.360 So when it comes to

01:42:01.440 what she needs for the baby,

01:42:02.620 what she needs for the house,

01:42:03.740 where we're going on vacation,

01:42:04.700 who we're seeing for holidays,

01:42:06.020 I just say,

01:42:06.900 you know what?

01:42:07.420 I have no idea.

01:42:08.320 That's up to you.

01:42:09.200 But when it comes to

01:42:10.240 calling lawyers,

01:42:11.440 dealing with bullshit,

01:42:12.740 getting shit done,

01:42:14.260 I'm going to go and fight.

01:42:15.680 You know, I put all this.

01:42:16.560 I'm going to fight

01:42:16.960 the grizzly bear

01:42:17.520 if it shows up

01:42:17.980 with my bare hands

01:42:18.580 and then die.

01:42:19.820 You save the baby.

01:42:20.600 Yeah, you delegate authorities,

01:42:21.840 but that's a part of being

01:42:22.780 a man and being a leader.

01:42:23.820 That's why, like,

01:42:24.540 when a woman's

01:42:25.020 in a leadership role,

01:42:26.080 it's a problem

01:42:26.880 for the relationship.

01:42:27.520 It's probably not going to last.

01:42:28.460 Women want a guy

01:42:29.100 who's going to be assertive,

01:42:30.060 dominant, taller,

01:42:30.820 stronger, everything.

01:42:31.540 They try to sit there

01:42:32.060 and say,

01:42:32.280 I'm equal to you,

01:42:32.880 but they're really not.

01:42:33.620 They're inferior

01:42:34.040 and they want to feel inferior.

01:42:34.800 I disagree, though.

01:42:35.700 Like, I've been in

01:42:36.200 a lot of relationships

01:42:37.060 where we handle the conflict.

01:42:38.700 Okay, where are those guys now?

01:42:41.180 Well, that's a problem

01:42:42.680 with them.

01:42:43.480 Hold on.

01:42:43.840 That's a problem with them,

01:42:44.820 not a problem with them.

01:42:45.360 They've been in a lot of relationships.

01:42:46.660 Okay, where the big is that now?

01:42:47.820 The nuanced answer,

01:42:48.700 the real answer

01:42:49.360 is that probably 80% of people

01:42:51.180 do prefer a gender

01:42:52.080 traditional relationship

01:42:53.020 and that's totally fine.

01:42:54.060 I have no issue

01:42:54.580 with people wanting

01:42:55.100 gender traditional relationships.

01:42:56.260 The problem with your worldview

01:42:57.260 is there's no space

01:42:58.160 for anything else

01:42:59.020 and the reality is that

01:43:00.200 non-gender traditional relationships

01:43:01.780 just do exist and can flourish.

01:43:03.480 No, because I understand

01:43:04.340 that women can't make

01:43:04.980 their own decisions

01:43:05.440 so I have to do it for them.

01:43:06.680 So you'll sit there and say,

01:43:07.420 oh, 80% is actually higher than that

01:43:08.800 because the reality is

01:43:09.560 women are attracted to men

01:43:10.840 that are better than them.

01:43:11.640 That's how it is.

01:43:12.100 Now you have to fight

01:43:12.960 with all of science and data.

01:43:14.220 And my bad

01:43:14.680 when you guys

01:43:15.280 how you want to be treated

01:43:15.900 which is inferior.

01:43:16.820 That's what it is.

01:43:17.520 How come whenever

01:43:17.980 there's a polycule

01:43:18.700 the woman's always like fat

01:43:19.840 and the guys are all weird looking?

01:43:22.080 I've seen a lot of polycules

01:43:23.380 that are like one man,

01:43:24.540 two women

01:43:24.860 and everyone's kind of hot.

01:43:26.120 I'm not going to lie.

01:43:29.020 Big fat chick

01:43:29.620 with three fat guys.

01:43:30.680 Yeah, it turns out

01:43:31.400 not everything you see online

01:43:33.060 is real.

01:43:33.520 I would also say

01:43:34.060 that there's a huge difference

01:43:35.140 between being assertive

01:43:37.600 and being a leader

01:43:38.240 and just calling women

01:43:39.560 stupid and hoes

01:43:40.740 over and over again.

01:43:41.500 If anything,

01:43:42.220 that's weak

01:43:43.060 and it's really kind of boring.

01:43:45.800 Well,

01:43:46.200 and this is,

01:43:47.140 I'm not even trying to argue

01:43:48.080 myron's.

01:43:48.800 Oh, it's like

01:43:49.240 wham, wham, wham, wham, wham.

01:43:50.140 Who's that chick

01:43:51.020 with the YouTube channel

01:43:52.240 where all she does

01:43:52.820 say women suck?

01:43:53.380 That's boring too.

01:43:54.060 Yeah, but Kat,

01:43:54.780 Kat, you know,

01:43:55.560 there is something

01:43:56.280 kind of like inherently

01:43:57.400 even from a young age

01:43:58.700 when guys would bully girls

01:44:00.240 that meant they liked them.

01:44:01.340 You know what I mean?

01:44:01.900 You know what I mean?

01:44:02.420 So you're saying

01:44:03.060 Myron likes me?

01:44:04.800 Yeah.

01:44:05.140 You started with me first

01:44:06.720 so I think it's

01:44:07.220 the other way around.

01:44:07.860 I know that sounds weird.

01:44:08.820 It sounds counterproductive

01:44:09.800 but that's kind of like a thing.

01:44:11.600 So I think Myron likes women

01:44:12.860 but it's like this weird thing

01:44:13.980 that if you attack them

01:44:15.080 that makes them

01:44:15.640 like you back.

01:44:16.420 Strong men can't be honest

01:44:17.520 about their feelings.

01:44:18.500 Got it.

01:44:18.640 Kind of.

01:44:19.280 It is hard

01:44:19.880 because this is another thing.

01:44:21.540 Well, one thing

01:44:22.020 I will tell you guys

01:44:22.760 never cry in front

01:44:23.980 of your girlfriend

01:44:24.500 you're a f**k

01:44:25.180 if you do that.

01:44:26.500 There's certain things

01:44:27.580 You can be vulnerable

01:44:31.460 in front of me

01:44:31.940 and then she'll use it

01:44:32.480 against you a year later.

01:44:33.580 Don't cry.

01:44:34.700 I don't know what to tell you.

01:44:35.760 Get out of those relationships.

01:44:36.500 There's only one time

01:44:37.640 a man is allowed to cry

01:44:38.540 in front of a woman

01:44:39.660 is when your dog dies.

01:44:40.600 Yeah, dog dying.

01:44:41.280 That's it.

01:44:41.300 Nothing else.

01:44:42.420 If your dog dies

01:44:43.080 you can cry

01:44:43.600 but go cry in the bathroom.

01:44:44.920 All right, stay up here Angela

01:44:46.000 but Tiani

01:44:47.040 is that Tiani?

01:44:48.160 Is Tiani here?

01:44:48.840 Maybe we can get in

01:44:49.320 one more female

01:44:50.600 before the end of the night.

01:44:52.020 Give it up for Tiani.

01:44:52.940 Come on down.

01:44:54.900 I hope you got something good.

01:44:56.440 You got one minute.

01:44:58.820 You got the bold lib.

01:45:00.540 Myron Gaines,

01:45:01.380 Cat Tim,

01:45:02.040 and Natsu Uridite.

01:45:02.840 What do you got for us?

01:45:03.740 Okay, so if we

01:45:04.740 as a society

01:45:05.840 want to get back

01:45:06.960 to traditional values

01:45:08.300 and a strong nuclear family

01:45:09.640 how are we supposed

01:45:10.700 to do that

01:45:11.120 when we lack

01:45:11.840 strong male role models

01:45:13.160 in the public eye

01:45:13.960 especially when we've got

01:45:16.220 public figures

01:45:17.520 with strong influence

01:45:18.900 amongst young men

01:45:19.800 and boys

01:45:20.420 who are constantly

01:45:21.840 criticizing 304s

01:45:23.880 but bragging about

01:45:25.460 having multiple

01:45:26.020 What do you mean?

01:45:26.360 You got Andrew Tate.

01:45:27.900 No, but we've also got

01:45:28.860 Myron Gaines.

01:45:29.300 Let's see what Myron has to say.

01:45:30.360 What do you got, Myron?

01:45:32.080 Well, I think

01:45:32.860 what we tell guys

01:45:34.080 if you watch the content

01:45:35.420 we talk a lot about

01:45:36.080 self-improvement

01:45:36.620 going in the gym

01:45:37.280 understanding that

01:45:38.100 you got to be

01:45:38.880 the best version of yourself

01:45:39.840 and then obviously

01:45:41.080 pursue the women

01:45:41.820 after you become

01:45:42.680 that complete package

01:45:43.780 because nowadays

01:45:44.480 with the way hypergamy is

01:45:45.560 women don't want

01:45:46.220 average men anymore

01:45:46.960 so we're very vocal

01:45:48.220 about that.

01:45:48.720 I think people only

01:45:49.760 look at the content

01:45:50.380 of me debating

01:45:51.040 women or whatever

01:45:52.000 but they don't look

01:45:52.420 at all the self-improvement

01:45:53.160 content I put out

01:45:53.820 on improving your credit,

01:45:54.980 real estate investing,

01:45:56.200 getting in the gym

01:45:56.760 and training.

01:45:57.020 No, I've seen a lot of that

01:45:57.700 and I agree with you

01:45:58.420 on a lot of things

01:45:59.220 but I don't agree

01:46:01.720 with you having

01:46:02.720 multiple women

01:46:03.500 because I know

01:46:05.380 that you believe

01:46:05.880 in a strong father figure

01:46:07.040 and traditional values

01:46:08.320 but you just don't

01:46:08.840 practice that

01:46:09.420 so that's what

01:46:10.620 here's the thing

01:46:11.560 what I teach guys

01:46:14.580 is you need to get

01:46:15.280 in a position

01:46:15.660 where you choose

01:46:16.480 what you want to do

01:46:17.160 if you want to go

01:46:17.920 and have 10 girlfriends

01:46:18.680 you can

01:46:19.040 if you want to go

01:46:19.540 ahead and be a

01:46:20.000 monogamous guy

01:46:20.620 and live a certain

01:46:21.680 lifestyle

01:46:22.060 you can do that too

01:46:22.700 but the point is

01:46:23.200 that guy needs to

01:46:23.800 get to a position

01:46:24.440 where he can make

01:46:25.340 that choice.

01:46:26.040 If you had a daughter

01:46:26.700 would you be okay

01:46:27.300 with that?

01:46:28.560 I mean if I had a daughter

01:46:29.340 would you be okay

01:46:30.480 with her being

01:46:31.000 with a man

01:46:31.480 that has 10 different women?

01:46:33.000 Yes

01:46:33.260 and I'll tell you why

01:46:34.260 because that's reality

01:46:35.740 right?

01:46:36.120 Because this is the ugly part

01:46:37.580 that women don't like

01:46:38.340 to understand.

01:46:39.580 You either can

01:46:40.220 you can have a higher

01:46:41.260 status guy.

01:46:41.760 Punisher if that happens.

01:46:42.940 Well here's the thing

01:46:43.600 I have to be honest with her

01:46:44.940 the reality is that

01:46:46.360 women think that

01:46:46.840 they're going to have

01:46:47.300 a higher status guy

01:46:48.040 all to themselves

01:46:48.600 it just doesn't work

01:46:49.480 that way most of the time.

01:46:50.760 That's not what women

01:46:51.400 are dating

01:46:52.240 in their socioeconomic status

01:46:53.780 in their age

01:46:54.360 like women are just

01:46:55.080 dating people

01:46:55.940 in their social space.

01:46:57.460 I'm sorry

01:46:58.060 I don't know what to tell you

01:46:59.120 you guys are wrong

01:46:59.940 just go look up the data

01:47:01.060 the reality is that

01:47:02.020 women are dating people

01:47:02.920 in their social sphere

01:47:03.640 this is why warm approaches

01:47:04.680 are good

01:47:05.100 and Tinder is AIDS

01:47:06.400 you shouldn't go on Tinder

01:47:07.380 by the way

01:47:08.080 but when you talk about

01:47:09.140 who you're marrying

01:47:09.800 it's people in your social space

01:47:11.220 with similar values

01:47:12.000 and similar socioeconomic status

01:47:13.480 this is why you never listen

01:47:14.140 to women's dating

01:47:14.580 no one cares

01:47:15.520 the reality is

01:47:16.220 science is really spooky

01:47:17.600 no no no

01:47:17.980 because here's the thing

01:47:19.180 a study is not going

01:47:20.000 to replicate this

01:47:20.460 the reality is

01:47:20.980 women have access

01:47:21.620 to higher status guys

01:47:22.540 via the internet

01:47:23.420 via Instagram etc

01:47:24.240 so you might meet a girl

01:47:25.760 studies can replicate this

01:47:26.840 literally walk me

01:47:28.380 through the process

01:47:28.980 of how a scientific study

01:47:30.240 can't capture

01:47:30.980 which socioeconomic status

01:47:32.600 people are marrying within

01:47:33.740 like literally tell me

01:47:34.920 the science that can't do it

01:47:35.600 marrying within

01:47:35.980 and then having access to

01:47:37.640 and dating etc

01:47:38.580 are two different things

01:47:39.440 so what I'm trying to explain here

01:47:40.720 is that regular women

01:47:41.980 have access

01:47:42.620 to above average men

01:47:44.060 a girl

01:47:44.840 a lot of the times

01:47:45.580 especially if she's attractive

01:47:46.680 to some degree

01:47:47.280 has probably dated an NBA player

01:47:48.880 or met with a celebrity

01:47:50.060 or whatever

01:47:50.500 what percentage of women

01:47:51.720 do you think have met

01:47:52.440 or dated an NBA player

01:47:54.000 women have way more

01:47:54.020 sexual access

01:47:55.020 to men

01:47:55.940 than men have to women

01:47:57.220 so what I'm saying

01:47:57.900 is that that

01:47:58.460 that shapes

01:47:59.980 the way they view men

01:48:00.900 that shapes how they

01:48:01.620 what they think they deserve

01:48:02.920 that shapes their world view

01:48:04.080 a lot of the times

01:48:04.660 if a girl dates an NBA player

01:48:06.240 she's going to think

01:48:07.060 damn

01:48:07.320 I qualify for this level of guy

01:48:09.180 average men are no longer

01:48:10.500 worth it

01:48:10.920 because women have

01:48:11.620 a perpetual mindset

01:48:13.020 of the grass is greener

01:48:14.360 on the other side

01:48:15.260 so that's what I'm trying to say

01:48:16.440 so my thing is

01:48:17.540 I tell guys

01:48:18.080 be the grass on the other side

01:48:19.740 that's greener

01:48:20.420 be the more attractive guy

01:48:21.420 because it's going to be

01:48:22.100 extremely competitive for you

01:48:23.060 and then I want the guy

01:48:24.040 to be able to decide

01:48:24.580 what he wants to do

01:48:25.140 you want to be a monogamous

01:48:26.000 in a Christian relationship

01:48:26.760 fantastic

01:48:27.320 go do it

01:48:28.020 you want to go ahead

01:48:28.840 and have a bunch of girls

01:48:29.580 go do it

01:48:30.300 my thing is

01:48:30.980 I want men to have the choice

01:48:32.920 not women

01:48:33.460 because women have the choice

01:48:34.320 they ruin your fucking life

01:48:35.520 we got a couple people

01:48:37.160 up we got to get through

01:48:37.800 Tiani thank you so much

01:48:38.680 now one of our last people

01:48:39.920 Noah Sanders

01:48:40.640 come on down

01:48:41.300 hopefully we can get through

01:48:42.040 we love Noah

01:48:43.440 come on

01:48:44.260 come on down Noah

01:48:49.540 hopefully we can get through

01:48:50.340 one or two more

01:48:51.220 before we go

01:48:51.980 what do you got for us Noah

01:48:53.160 all right

01:48:54.920 thank you all for coming out

01:48:56.900 here tonight

01:48:57.340 I'm down here

01:48:57.940 I'm up here from Atlanta

01:48:58.900 so I'm very glad

01:49:00.400 I could make it up

01:49:01.060 thank you Noah

01:49:01.820 for coming down

01:49:02.580 so with second wave feminism

01:49:03.880 women became

01:49:04.660 women were encouraged

01:49:05.880 to get jobs

01:49:06.480 and have careers

01:49:07.040 and that's a great thing

01:49:07.900 that they had that option

01:49:08.760 but due to that

01:49:09.780 the workforce

01:49:10.440 was doubled overnight

01:49:12.580 that caused more workers

01:49:13.860 competing for jobs

01:49:14.600 driving down overall wages

01:49:15.940 that led to the standard

01:49:17.100 of dual income households

01:49:18.220 making it nearly impossible

01:49:19.380 for a sole breadwinner

01:49:20.600 to own a home

01:49:22.500 or raise a family

01:49:23.380 do we think

01:49:24.440 do y'all believe

01:49:25.300 that coupled

01:49:26.500 with modern feminism

01:49:27.460 promoting long term

01:49:28.320 not promoting

01:49:29.420 long term relationships

01:49:30.520 or marriages

01:49:31.020 that it has all

01:49:32.220 ultimately led

01:49:32.960 to the economic struggles

01:49:34.240 that we as young people

01:49:35.360 are facing today

01:49:36.180 yes

01:49:36.520 no

01:49:36.620 absolutely not

01:49:38.480 and I'm so glad

01:49:39.120 you brought up

01:49:39.720 the economy

01:49:40.440 not only is it inevitable

01:49:43.320 that women are going

01:49:44.020 to enter the workforce

01:49:45.260 it was necessary

01:49:46.100 because you have to compete

01:49:47.540 as an economy

01:49:48.380 at a global market

01:49:49.400 and it's very very important

01:49:50.960 that your GDP

01:49:51.640 is globally competitive

01:49:52.940 if everyone else

01:49:54.360 lets women enter

01:49:55.080 into the workforce

01:49:55.700 which inevitably

01:49:56.500 is going to happen

01:49:57.280 if you're globally competing

01:49:58.340 increasing your labor product

01:50:00.560 by 50%

01:50:01.460 is an explosion

01:50:02.940 when it comes

01:50:03.760 to economic momentum

01:50:05.080 things like productivity

01:50:06.920 the reality is that

01:50:08.480 women being in the workforce

01:50:10.180 is a major part

01:50:11.520 of what has led

01:50:12.220 to the American

01:50:12.880 predominance

01:50:13.740 of the economy

01:50:14.540 it's just going

01:50:15.780 to be a good thing

01:50:17.040 planes crashing

01:50:18.260 it's not at the cost

01:50:20.460 of your children

01:50:20.900 your children have

01:50:21.660 a higher quality

01:50:22.460 of life

01:50:22.820 than they've ever had

01:50:23.760 why are you blaming

01:50:25.220 women

01:50:25.640 when you should be mad

01:50:26.540 just come up

01:50:27.540 we can't hear you

01:50:28.240 go grab the mic

01:50:29.060 if you have a point

01:50:29.940 wait do you have a point

01:50:31.120 get up and go on the mic

01:50:32.000 real quick

01:50:32.300 and then Taylor Lorenz's ex

01:50:33.760 come on down

01:50:34.660 you're going to be

01:50:35.200 our last one

01:50:35.900 if you want to say something

01:50:37.040 get on the mic back there

01:50:37.900 we like an aggressive

01:50:39.240 female like you

01:50:40.100 we're sexist

01:50:44.940 thank you Noah

01:50:45.980 we love you Noah

01:50:46.760 you made some great points

01:50:47.780 we already said

01:50:48.120 we don't like men

01:50:48.700 get on the mic

01:50:49.560 I'm here because

01:50:51.420 my husband

01:50:52.520 Eric McCartney

01:50:54.280 watches y'all show

01:50:55.480 I yell at him

01:50:56.940 like we need a date night

01:50:58.440 and he watches y'all shit

01:51:00.520 this is our fucking date night

01:51:02.600 yeah

01:51:02.980 yeah the man's

01:51:04.020 making decisions

01:51:04.840 obviously

01:51:05.560 dead ass

01:51:06.600 I'm a supportive woman

01:51:08.360 okay

01:51:09.440 we've raised nine children

01:51:11.640 between us

01:51:12.220 yours mine

01:51:12.960 ours and theirs

01:51:13.960 three biological

01:51:16.380 okay

01:51:17.400 I understand

01:51:18.820 what y'all saying

01:51:19.480 yes

01:51:20.020 women

01:51:20.400 we deserve a right

01:51:21.960 to go to work

01:51:22.540 we own our house

01:51:23.980 because I worked hard enough

01:51:26.220 to buy it myself

01:51:27.680 but we cannot be legally married

01:51:29.600 because America

01:51:30.780 no longer supports

01:51:32.620 family fucking

01:51:34.020 household

01:51:34.680 wait

01:51:35.260 sorry

01:51:35.640 if you're married

01:51:36.680 to your husband

01:51:37.560 guess what

01:51:38.280 you get less benefits

01:51:41.060 no matter how much you work

01:51:43.220 you're committing

01:51:43.640 social services fraud

01:51:44.480 I worked my ass off

01:51:45.140 my parents were crackheads

01:51:46.900 and heroin addicts

01:51:47.140 you were going to go to jail ma'am

01:51:48.260 I was in foster care

01:51:49.420 I worked my ass off

01:51:51.260 to get my house

01:51:52.780 I bought my house

01:51:54.000 on my name

01:51:54.500 but guess what

01:51:55.180 my husband pays for it

01:51:57.380 once I worked hard enough

01:51:58.560 okay mortgage fraud

01:51:59.580 is a crime

01:52:00.300 and we don't need to

01:52:01.260 why can't you be married

01:52:03.300 you know what I mean

01:52:03.400 I don't know

01:52:04.180 I have no idea

01:52:04.980 what you mean

01:52:05.260 the system of welfare benefits

01:52:06.420 favor single women

01:52:07.420 because you're like

01:52:08.280 a little cutesy bitch

01:52:09.500 that's probably cap

01:52:10.800 I don't know

01:52:12.260 what you're saying

01:52:12.660 but I'm from Baltimore bitch

01:52:14.780 I came from the bottom

01:52:16.400 and I worked my way up

01:52:17.860 that's awesome

01:52:18.500 give it up for her

01:52:19.360 alright guys

01:52:20.060 that's what true feminism is

01:52:22.580 if you find a man

01:52:24.440 that you know

01:52:26.260 will support you

01:52:27.780 you work hard enough

01:52:28.600 to hold your own

01:52:29.220 can I ask you a question

01:52:30.220 oh yes bitch

01:52:31.120 I got you

01:52:32.060 that's what it boils down to

01:52:34.280 why is a competitive GDP

01:52:35.920 important

01:52:36.440 I'm sorry if you don't get that

01:52:36.680 why is a competitive GDP

01:52:38.700 important for a country

01:52:39.720 huh

01:52:40.460 why is a competitive GDP

01:52:41.800 important for a country

01:52:42.860 this bitch is drunk

01:52:44.400 she doesn't know shit

01:52:45.000 about GDP

01:52:45.440 but that ain't real reality

01:52:47.240 of America

01:52:47.940 honey I'm an American

01:52:49.520 that's going to be the same question

01:52:52.440 let's see their green cards first

01:52:54.340 I love that argument

01:52:56.620 but I'm talking about

01:52:56.700 everyday American

01:52:57.380 that works

01:52:57.980 it's not that argument

01:52:58.840 graph go up

01:52:59.440 thank you so much

01:53:00.420 thank you

01:53:01.240 that it a lot

01:53:02.080 graph go up

01:53:03.080 why

01:53:03.480 I'll ask you Tim

01:53:05.040 if you're saying it's graph

01:53:05.920 it's not graph go up

01:53:06.840 I'm not saying just have

01:53:07.800 a bigger GDP

01:53:08.360 I'm saying competitive

01:53:09.360 a competitive GDP

01:53:10.500 why does that matter

01:53:11.240 when you have no kids

01:53:12.600 it doesn't

01:53:13.140 why does it matter

01:53:13.760 for a nation state

01:53:14.500 to have a competitive GDP

01:53:15.460 if you have no kids

01:53:16.680 it doesn't

01:53:17.280 it absolutely does

01:53:18.360 not if you got no kids

01:53:19.360 yes it does

01:53:20.020 real quick guys

01:53:21.600 we're almost done

01:53:22.260 Taylor Lorenz

01:53:23.220 we wanted our one

01:53:24.240 transgender representative

01:53:25.480 because we need that

01:53:26.860 alright Assassin's Creed

01:53:27.800 you got one minute

01:53:28.440 Taylor Lorenz

01:53:29.540 are you here

01:53:30.200 is Taylor Lorenz X here

01:53:31.480 oh yeah

01:53:31.780 god that mask

01:53:33.280 you look so fucking scary

01:53:34.700 first off

01:53:35.340 first off let me say

01:53:37.020 I'm not wearing a spicy vest

01:53:38.280 the American left

01:53:42.340 has been getting pretty cozy

01:53:43.440 with Muslim and Islam culture

01:53:45.000 and that seems to be

01:53:46.700 in direct conflict

01:53:47.700 with their pet issues

01:53:48.560 of feminism and LGBT

01:53:50.120 as a center right

01:53:51.960 leaning transsexual myself

01:53:53.160 I am concerned

01:53:53.820 about the mainstreaming

01:53:54.680 of Islam

01:53:55.100 and eventually

01:53:55.860 Sharia law

01:53:56.420 in this country

01:53:56.980 and to tie it back

01:53:57.800 into today's theme

01:53:58.880 I would imagine

01:54:00.020 feminists would have

01:54:00.720 similar feelings

01:54:01.380 how does this conflict

01:54:02.500 work itself out

01:54:03.360 I feel that the left

01:54:04.540 is just using feminism

01:54:05.640 and LGBT

01:54:06.380 as disposable weapons

01:54:07.620 useful only when they

01:54:08.940 align with their

01:54:09.480 political goals

01:54:10.120 what do you all think

01:54:11.420 go sit down Taylor

01:54:13.460 don't land on your balls

01:54:14.820 when you do

01:54:15.200 I think that is

01:54:15.980 a really good point

01:54:16.480 about how modern feminism

01:54:17.560 is very deferential

01:54:19.160 to Islam

01:54:19.640 which is weird

01:54:20.520 I just

01:54:21.320 yeah I agree

01:54:22.100 I'm extremely

01:54:22.880 anti-Muslim

01:54:23.900 I think that

01:54:24.640 like Islam

01:54:25.680 is extremely oppressive

01:54:27.260 to women

01:54:27.660 and I'm not a fan of it

01:54:28.500 and I actually agree

01:54:29.060 I think it's an area

01:54:29.680 that third wave neglected

01:54:30.620 fourth wave is actually

01:54:31.560 a lot more attentive to it

01:54:32.540 feminism is mostly bad

01:54:33.740 we agree

01:54:34.100 is what

01:54:35.120 what

01:54:35.640 I just didn't hear you

01:54:37.020 alright

01:54:38.280 well guys

01:54:39.720 give it up for yourselves

01:54:40.740 thank you guys

01:54:41.460 for being here

01:54:42.140 this evening

01:54:42.840 now before we end

01:54:45.560 Angela you go first

01:54:47.200 say where people can find you

01:54:48.280 and how they can support you

01:54:49.080 oh thank you so much

01:54:50.280 I'm at Angela

01:54:51.620 Bell Camino

01:54:52.300 on X

01:54:53.240 TikTok

01:54:53.720 Instagram

01:54:54.580 all that jazz

01:54:55.280 thanks guys for having me

01:54:56.700 Myron Gaines X

01:54:59.540 on everything

01:55:00.140 Rumble

01:55:01.220 YouTube kick

01:55:02.020 etc

01:55:02.320 and Fresh Fit Podcast

01:55:03.280 as you guys know

01:55:04.160 go live every day

01:55:05.500 and yeah

01:55:06.140 I'm primetime

01:55:09.200 Pib on a blimp

01:55:09.820 thank you guys

01:55:10.360 for being here

01:55:10.800 we're gonna do

01:55:11.200 some more of these

01:55:12.040 these wouldn't be possible

01:55:13.680 without you guys

01:55:14.400 so thank you guys

01:55:15.040 for being here

01:55:15.700 thank you guys

01:55:17.500 for hosting me

01:55:17.980 thank you guys

01:55:18.340 for being so gracious

01:55:18.940 as to bring me here

01:55:19.620 not so erudite

01:55:20.520 everywhere

01:55:21.040 YouTube

01:55:21.520 Twitter

01:55:21.920 you can fight

01:55:22.520 with me there

01:55:22.980 you all had big opinions

01:55:23.980 so come fight with me

01:55:25.200 uh yeah

01:55:27.260 I'm Kat

01:55:27.800 thank you all

01:55:28.600 uh Kat Timf

01:55:29.900 on everything

01:55:30.720 and yeah

01:55:31.740 can't wait to

01:55:32.480 can't wait to hear

01:55:33.380 from all you guys

01:55:34.240 thank you

01:55:37.240 alright everybody

01:55:38.000 thank you so much

01:55:39.500 for coming out

01:55:40.040 to our third

01:55:40.860 Culture War Live

01:55:41.940 we have many more

01:55:42.840 in the works

01:55:43.300 we are planning them out

01:55:44.260 we will set them up

01:55:45.220 who knows where we'll be

01:55:46.220 maybe New York

01:55:46.900 maybe D.C.

01:55:47.720 maybe Florida

01:55:48.680 we'll figure it out

01:55:49.500 you guys can follow me

01:55:50.720 on X and Instagram

01:55:51.360 at Timcast

01:55:52.220 stay tuned

01:55:52.960 more to come throughout the day

01:55:54.000 and we'll see y'all next time

01:55:55.200 peace

01:55:55.700 give it up guys

01:56:02.120 give it up one more time

01:56:03.340 for our panel

01:56:04.020 and for D.C. Comedy Live

The Culture War - Tim Pool - August 15, 2025

Has Feminism Destroyed The West？ Myron Gaines vs Kat Timpf w⧸ Alex Stein & Tim Pool

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