The Culture War - Tim Pool - Housing Prices Are RADICALIZING Gen Z ｜ The Culture War's Across The Pond

00:00:00.080 What is going on Patriots? We are here back for another installation of Across the Pond.

00:00:06.160 We have an unbelievable, unbelievable guest. I love this man. I'm so glad we wrangled him

00:00:11.160 between all of his different projects he's going on. He's one of the most dynamic men in the game

00:00:15.660 right now. Nathan Halberstadt is here. Nathan, who are you? What do you do? Timcast viewers

00:00:20.840 probably know who you are, but just in case they don't, what do you do? Well, thanks for having me

00:00:26.280 back, Tate. We've had, I guess, a series of appearances together now, which has been

00:00:30.900 fantastic. The New Founding podcast, you came on, I've been on your show, a few different shows,

00:00:35.600 a few different times, and then Connor, nice to finally be on a show together as well.

00:00:40.740 I'm hearing it's like 2026 will be the Tate and Connor generational run. It turns to my background,

00:00:47.440 I'm at New Founding. It's a venture firm. We're based in Dallas, Texas. I'm a partner there.

00:00:52.180 I travel around a good amount. So partly meeting with founders, investors, things like this, and

00:00:57.880 then very interested in the political and civilizational and cultural questions. And

00:01:01.740 it's a big part of why I enjoy talking with you, Tate. And Connor, I've been following some of your

00:01:05.780 stuff as well. So excited about the conversation. I love it. I love it. Well, we are thankful. And

00:01:11.060 we got a great topic. I mean, when I saw this topic jump up on the timeline, it had to be Halbs.

00:01:17.060 Had to be Halbs. So I'm just going to jump in here. I'm going to read. This was a headline

00:01:21.400 that dropped this week. It instigated quite interesting discourse. The boomers and zoomers 1.00

00:01:27.300 went at it again. This happens like every three months. This was the headline. Gen Z has cut down 1.00

00:01:33.480 on their effort at work because they do not think it is worth it if they cannot afford long-term

00:01:39.060 financial calls per YF. So obviously there's been this big rift between boomers and zoomers. 0.99

00:01:46.100 Pretty much as soon as zoomers could talk, this discourse started in which zoomers are saying, 0.53

00:01:52.680 look, I'm looking towards the future. All of these promises that were made to me, this inheritance

00:01:57.200 that I was supposed to receive is no longer there. Therefore, I'm going to black pill. Therefore, 0.86

00:02:01.800 I'm going to check out. Housing prices are through the roof. Unemployment is super high. And when I do

00:02:06.360 get a degree, I don't even feel like I can get a job that would utilize my degree. I don't think I'm

00:02:10.400 going to get married. I can't even like riz up women anymore. Like where the hoes at has become 1.00

00:02:15.040 a very salient question for the zoomer patriot, sensitive young patriot males. There's just a

00:02:19.960 variety of issues that are causing zoomers to black pill. I don't know what you guys think of 1.00

00:02:25.380 this, what your consensus is, what your reaction is to the discourse. Do the boomers have a point? 0.98

00:02:29.360 Are the zoomers just inherently flawed? Or maybe do the zoomers have a point? The boomers are selfish 1.00

00:02:33.820 and pull the ladder up behind them? Or is the truth somewhere in the middle? I want to first ask

00:02:38.260 Connor for his take. And then Nathan, you can give us the correct take and just lay out all

00:02:41.940 the data and probably provide some graphs like you typically do.

00:02:45.460 Well, first of all, Tay, I know that you have far too large a harem of e-girls to really engage 1.00

00:02:52.120 in the question of where the hoes at. So this is truly a 1% male problem. I remember the Sigma 1.00

00:02:59.840 male grind set meme going around a few years ago and everyone, of course, lionizing the aesthetics

00:03:04.620 of Patrick Bateman. And now it is not in vogue to dedicate your entire life to having your personal

00:03:13.020 life be cannibalized by working away, whether it's day trading or slaving in a giant corporation.

00:03:20.700 Having most of your hours dedicated to filling out spreadsheets for corporations that are lobbying

00:03:25.020 politicians to replace you with your cheaper counterparts from India and Africa. And I think a 0.87

00:03:30.620 lot of people are realizing that there's no use engaging in the pull yourself up by your bootstraps

00:03:37.480 boomer promise that you can work 30 years at a corporation, retire in your 60s with a golden 0.66

00:03:44.040 watch and have the white picket fence and a large family on a single income. Because since before we

00:03:49.400 were born, we've been indebted and flooded with third world dependents that are not just changing 1.00

00:03:55.740 our culture, but also pricing us out of jobs and housing. This is the work that Nathan's done. This

00:04:00.660 is the stuff that I brought up in the recent rhetorical kerfuffle with Ben Shapiro appearing

00:04:05.360 on Trigonometry saying, well, if you can't afford to live in the city you were born into, you know,

00:04:08.560 just move. And at the same time, while insisting his comments are taken out of context, he was

00:04:12.880 supporting H1B visas, which is exploited for like mid-level jobs and startup firms and big tech

00:04:18.640 corporations where your average white collar, decently educated white guy would have got his start a few

00:04:25.100 years ago and built his role up in a corporation, but is now inaccessible to him. And so this is

00:04:29.780 behind, I think, a lot of Gen Z dispossession. And I think it cuts both towards men and women, 0.94

00:04:35.340 because while men are being legally, systemically, and culturally discriminated against by feminine

00:04:41.660 institutions, but also anti-discrimination laws and equalities legislation, the Civil Rights Act in

00:04:46.440 the US, the Equalities Act, the Companies Act in the UK, there's also this burnout that Zuma women 1.00

00:04:52.580 keep expressing this kind of existential rage on TikTok by saying that they don't feel safe

00:04:58.100 commuting to their cities, regardless of which permissive migration policies and criminal justice

00:05:02.900 policies they may vote for. God bless them. They don't enjoy their work. They don't feel it's

00:05:08.560 meaningful. They feel alienated from their jobs and their roles and their social circles, and their job

00:05:14.460 tires them out so much they don't have time to date or socialize. And so you get this kind of

00:05:18.760 existential angst being expressed on social media by women who think it's a good idea to film their 0.94

00:05:23.620 mental breakdown. However, we should have sympathy for them because this isn't how men and women are 0.87

00:05:26.820 meant to interact. It's not how we're meant to live. And so Gen Z have kind of realized that the

00:05:31.280 ladder's been pulled up for them. There's no use continuing to give more and more of your life and

00:05:37.560 energy to something that isn't paying dividends. And so checking out is actually the reasonable response

00:05:41.800 off to a certain point. Also, I'll just add that I was talking with a VC, let's say previously based,

00:05:50.120 I won't say where based, but the individual was probably coming from more of a libertarian type

00:05:54.100 of background. So not necessarily somebody who was really probably up to speed with a lot of the

00:05:59.220 things that we think about and talk about. And he pointed out to me that the percent of Americans that

00:06:05.400 believe in capitalism still has been declining year over year, and it's much sharper in the younger

00:06:11.240 generation. And actually, we're hitting right about 50% of people who view capitalism positively.

00:06:16.680 And at the same time, so this is like trending down of how you view capitalism. This is a turbo

00:06:20.560 boomer take, by the way. So it's like doing like a libertarian capitalism. So, so, so, so like,

00:06:25.540 forgive me here. But then on the same time, actually, the views of socialism is like increasing in

00:06:31.300 sort of its people's positive views towards it. So I think, you know, nationally, it's approaching 40%

00:06:37.020 positive view of socialism. So like, we're actually approaching this convergence where like,

00:06:41.240 the view of capitalism may actually dip below, you know, we're probably on a, on trend for

00:06:45.920 something like 2030 or something like that, that's a crossover. And then when, of course,

00:06:49.420 when you segment by, by demographics, of course, as you move into the, like sort of the foreign

00:06:53.840 demographic, you know, they're generally much more pro-socialism. And then actually younger

00:06:58.780 people are, are also much more pro-socialism. I would argue for very different reasons, but

00:07:02.960 so maybe like, this is me throwing, like granting a, like throwing a bone to the boomer and saying,

00:07:07.500 like, maybe it is kind of true, actually, to some extent that like, young people are like,

00:07:12.280 they're a little bit more radical. Maybe they don't believe in capitalism as much as you and like,

00:07:17.460 you know, maybe as, as Warren Buffett did. But then I think we have to like ask like why that is,

00:07:21.760 of course. Probably for the, for the foreigners, for the migrants, it's, it's resentment,

00:07:26.180 right? It's that they, they showed up here. And I think that they like resent colonization,

00:07:32.840 and they resent sort of Westerners. On the reverse, and I think for younger Americans,

00:07:38.300 it's probably more of these economic problems that we talked about, and cultural problems. So,

00:07:43.540 you know, like some of the really basic stuff, I won't pull up a graph, I'm tempted to, but,

00:07:48.920 but, you know, basic stuff like the cost of home relative to, of a home relative to your income,

00:07:54.480 you know, went to, went from about two times to six times, you know, from the boomer generation to

00:07:59.740 ours. Like that's a, like a three X there is pretty meaningful, actually, like median income

00:08:03.840 to medium, median home price. And then, yeah, we talk about marriage rates and family formation and

00:08:10.380 things like that. And it's just like, let's just say for the average person who maybe just like

00:08:16.900 gets a skilled labor job, or, you know, goes to a state school, you know, sort of like the

00:08:23.320 probability of being able to like really stick the landing by 25 is like actually a lot lower than

00:08:27.500 it used to be. And so, you know, in those conditions, it's maybe like, it's maybe like

00:08:34.840 hard to believe in capitalism in that scenario. And so that pushes people maybe further to the

00:08:41.060 right, in some cases. And then in other cases, it's like, where did Mamdani come from? Or like

00:08:45.340 Rokana? I mean, I'm in SF right now. This is this, this, this, I can't say too many negative things

00:08:51.120 about it, because I guess there's like, there are good, some good people here. But, you know, maybe,

00:08:55.120 maybe to say a few things about what's happening out here is, I mean, there's this wealth tax that's

00:08:58.300 been proposed. And it's going to tax unrealized, unrealized gains. And you know what that's going

00:09:03.480 to do to like, even the founder ecosystem, you know, if you're a founder, and you maybe have like

00:09:08.360 a, let's say paper gains, nice markups, maybe you like you, you know, you raise a seed round,

00:09:12.120 series A, series B, you know, you now owe taxes on that, but it's not liquid, like you don't have any

00:09:16.700 way to like, you know, you might be worth 40 million on paper, but you might have 70,000 in your bank

00:09:21.260 account, and all of a sudden, you have to pay this massive tax bill. You know, that's, that's like

00:09:26.980 an extremely, that's like, just like, raw socialism, like, that's like a very left wing, just like

00:09:32.140 extracting wealth from people who are producer, you know, producing and this really, you know,

00:09:37.280 investors, capitalists, and people who are own own production, essentially. And anyway, I just say,

00:09:43.080 like, you know, that stuff is, I'm very pessimistic, pessimistic that that will actually pass into law,

00:09:48.140 and that that'll have like really negative consequences out in California. And then out

00:09:52.660 in New York, you have Mom Donnie as well. And I just think I see this as all kind of like the same

00:09:57.520 story, where it's like, conservatives haven't had good solutions. Libertarians haven't had good

00:10:02.260 solutions, kind of the boomers failed, of course. And, and we have serious problems, and we do have to 1.00

00:10:10.140 solve them. Yeah. For one, I love when Connor just casually dropped H1B in his opening monologue,

00:10:15.920 and then Halberstadt, like the gorilla meme, just like looks up at the camera, generational lock-in.

00:10:21.380 And then Halberstadt. 30 minute segment on H1B, he's like, I'm ready.

00:10:25.360 Literally, H1B's whole show. And then also Halberstadt, live, right in front of her very eyes, is

00:10:30.440 like constructing a graph. He's, he's throwing up the door.

00:10:33.880 Like, he's just like literally watching.

00:10:35.560 I can just move my hands here.

00:10:38.020 Yeah. Beautiful thing. But there's so, I mean, there's so many different directions we could go.

00:10:41.960 So, I mean, I think it's important to hit on. Again, this is going to be like a turbo boomer

00:10:47.320 nuclear take, but like socialism is bad, broadly. It's not a controversial opinion in our sphere,

00:10:53.620 especially on the TempCast channel. But the interesting thing is, this isn't of the flavor,

00:10:58.700 this isn't the socialism of the flavor of sort of the Scandinavian, let's just try it and see if

00:11:03.540 these redistributionist policies could work. Because maybe there is something to be said about that.

00:11:09.140 Because, I mean, for the longest time, things were actually going quite well in Scandinavia

00:11:13.600 to a degree in Canada as well. But these things are predicated on favorable demographics. It

00:11:19.860 requires a degree of homogenization that just a homogenous population that doesn't exist anymore.

00:11:26.120 And so the socialism, the flavor that we're seeing with Gen Z is more of the flavor of 1.00

00:11:30.580 vindictiveness, more of the flavor of like retribution, which is why you get a Mamdani. 0.94

00:11:34.760 Because Mamdani is not an economics scholar who is just really convinced that if we get the

00:11:41.120 certain policies in and get the stats right and the numbers down, we will create prosperity and

00:11:46.220 generate prosperity for New Yorkers. That's not really what he's going for. His is quite literally

00:11:50.940 more just based off of resentment. And I think that gets at Zoomers generally. Our politics generally, 0.98

00:11:56.740 even on the right, is based on a degree of resentment. I know that's like an unpopular take,

00:12:00.920 an unpopular opinion, but it's true. And I would say in many ways, both right and left among Zoomers, 1.00

00:12:05.080 they actually do kind of have the right to be resentful to a degree. The problem is the left

00:12:09.660 wing Zoomers, their resentment is more channeled at the people that actually would create a prosperous 1.00

00:12:15.560 civilization in the first place. It's typically just, they just hate white people fundamentally. 0.98

00:12:19.020 That's where the resentment is stemming from. Mamdani, et cetera, you name it. They just tell you 0.86

00:12:23.360 openly. Or on the right, it's resentful more at the correct, you know, directed correctly,

00:12:28.760 which is at this post-war consensus, this liberal regime, this idea of the blank slate

00:12:33.160 that is just completely deracinated Zoomers. I mean, again, there's a whole variety of different 0.96

00:12:38.320 ways we can go with this topic. But a lot of people know for me, I really am interested in

00:12:42.540 anthropology, specifically like religious anthropology. And you're seeing among Zoomers, 1.00

00:12:46.920 this push into Catholicism. And I think the reason that's happening is because Zoomer men, 1.00

00:12:53.500 particularly Zoomer men, feel incredibly deracinated. They feel incredibly, 0.99

00:12:57.840 sort of cut off from heritage, cut off from lineage, cut off from the roots.

00:13:02.400 And they see an institution that is ancient, that has sort of this clear, distinct connection

00:13:06.820 to the past. And they're like, this is like oxygen for them. They can finally have something

00:13:11.440 that is grounded, something that is real. And so they jump into it with two feet.

00:13:15.960 And I think that's kind of what's going on, is I think there are very few places for young men

00:13:22.320 where they can feel connected to the past, where they can feel a sense of rootedness,

00:13:26.440 because the modern man really is just cut off from the past. And the problem with that

00:13:31.880 is very obvious, is the past is always going to make claims on the present. And boomers hate that.

00:13:37.640 Fundamentally, that is the biggest gripe boomers have, is with the idea that the past will make

00:13:42.140 claims on the present. That is why, in a variety of ways, they're frustrated with Zoomers. Because 0.62

00:13:49.780 Zoomers are saying like, no, we actually, we actually kind of like the restrictions that the

00:13:53.940 past puts on us. We actually don't like individualism, because the problem with human

00:13:57.640 nature is you do need guardrails to some degree. You do need a sense of purpose. And oftentimes,

00:14:03.000 society is what prescribes purpose to your life. It's very hard to expect people to just sort of pull

00:14:09.560 purpose out of thin air. That's why Zoomers are returning to Christianity broadly, is because it 1.00

00:14:15.040 just prescribes you purpose. This is what you're supposed to do. Go do it. That's very hard for

00:14:19.200 Zoomers to just generate out of thin air. Boomers inherited that. Their parents actually did give 1.00

00:14:23.400 them these sort of assignments, so to speak. And they bucked it. They bucked it on purpose in favor

00:14:28.220 of sort of pursuing individualism. But it's very frustrating. This whole debate started, at least

00:14:34.780 the last time I remember seeing this discourse start, was over Vivek and his disparagement of the

00:14:40.100 term heritage Americans. And what he was getting at was that, no, American...

00:14:44.200 Over a year ago, it's hard to even believe it's been that long.

00:14:48.140 Yeah, I know.

00:14:49.980 Yeah. And then obviously, he had his speech at Amphus, where he's saying, like, okay, well,

00:14:53.580 Heritage American is not even a real thing. Like, American is defined by your ideology.

00:14:58.040 The problem with that, for a variety of reasons, is it just further contributes to the

00:15:02.880 deracination of Zoomer men, Zoomer Americans specifically. Because again, it just puts them 1.00

00:15:09.180 back in the same position that's destroyed us in the first place, is the situation where,

00:15:13.960 hey, you're on your own, figure it out. Whatever your calling is, just pursue your calling,

00:15:17.680 man. Just pursue your passions. We can't do that. It's ruined us. It really has. Like,

00:15:22.480 we do need some guardrails. We do need some purpose.

00:15:24.740 I just want to jump in and add two things here. It's like, one is it's like hilarious,

00:15:28.620 like Vivek, like back-to-back Christmas crash-outs.

00:15:31.420 I can't wait for what 2026 has in store.

00:15:36.040 It's the most Indian time of year. 1.00

00:15:37.820 You know, more could be said there. But, you know, you mentioned, of course, these ideas around,

00:15:43.920 let's say, like, tradition. And, you know, Chesterton has the famous quote, like,

00:15:47.540 tradition is the democracy of the dead. And I think that it's actually, that quote is,

00:15:53.560 like, particularly true and, like, a funny sort of, like, if you read it, like, very literally.

00:15:56.940 Like, the boomers were, you know, many of them are still alive, of course. But they, 0.96

00:16:01.540 of course, were, like, fundamentally quite rebellious as a generation. Of course,

00:16:05.060 you could talk about, like, the 60s counterculture. And I was out at, I was,

00:16:09.420 like, out stopping at the Stanford Review two nights ago out here. And you think about a place

00:16:13.340 like Silicon Valley and the, like, places like Stanford, like, UCLA, whatever, you know,

00:16:18.680 broadly California was, you know, sort of these technologists were this combination of,

00:16:23.660 like, rebels, visionaries, and sort of, like, hippies. But they were, like,

00:16:29.060 they rejected, like, every form of tradition. You still sort of see it out here,

00:16:32.100 actually. Like, like, people kind of, you know, now I'm going to start attacking SF.

00:16:34.880 Like, people just, like, dress like slobs, of course. It's sort of, even the way

00:16:37.500 that they talk, it's very, like, sort of everything is, like, is, like, layers of

00:16:40.760 subversion. And this was, like, very much so, like, the boomer generation,

00:16:45.640 sort of, this is inherited. So, when people, like, when Zoomers say, okay,

00:16:48.340 you go to the Stanford Review, many of them are converts to Catholicism.

00:16:51.760 Like, why is that? And it's that, I think they're trying to, like, reach,

00:16:55.480 they're trying to, like, leap over the boomers to the dead people that the 0.91

00:16:59.400 boomers subverted. It's, like, roughly how I would describe it. And, but otherwise, 0.99

00:17:04.400 I just agree with everything that you said, yeah.

00:17:08.100 Yeah, Connor, what's your take on this? Is there a resident Catholic on the panel?

00:17:12.720 Carl Schmitt was correct when, in his critique of Protestantism, he compared 0.95

00:17:17.520 Protestantism to being quite literally rooted to the land and place and tradition.

00:17:21.760 Whereas, he saw Protestantism as a seafaring ideology that was necessary in

00:17:28.040 conquering the new world, but much like Max Weber drew connective tissue between

00:17:32.480 Protestantism and then the American work ethic and then the ever-revolving dynamo of

00:17:39.320 liberal capitalism, which liquidates identities. He saw that the rootlessness of

00:17:44.300 that led to the human life being fed into the thresher more of ever-growing technological

00:17:51.660 progression and GDP generation. And now we've got, you know, mass migration to keep the GDP

00:17:56.960 growing so that they can bet the GDP figures against the debt they've already accumulated

00:18:01.220 and will never pay back in order to pay for boomer entitlements like Medicaid and Social Security 0.91

00:18:06.420 in your country or pensions in the NHS in my country. And so we're, you know, we're just

00:18:11.740 devouring the future of not just ourselves, but those who haven't been born yet. And to do the 0.86

00:18:18.920 Burke quote for tradition rather than Chesterton's, tradition is the thing that connects the living

00:18:24.120 with those who have come before them and those not yet born. Breaking the tradition allows you to

00:18:30.080 mortgage off the futures of those not yet born or just to kill them in pursuit of your own 0.97

00:18:34.860 personal hedonism. It's the, the other thing that's connected to that as well is that you don't

00:18:41.460 need the, the Protestant ethic or the secular version, which is limitless limbic capitalism,

00:18:47.100 where you're just working to basically goon in order to see that you, there is a degree,

00:18:54.260 and this is what the Catholics have recognized with things like distributism. There is a degree

00:18:58.940 of needing to own at least a subsistence level of property in order to have a stake in the land in

00:19:03.840 order to continue your traditions and have a, have a reason to participate in society.

00:19:08.680 And so when you have things like in my country, since 2015 to 2016, when they, when the first

00:19:14.280 years of the new student finance system came into effect, you've now got the impossibility of most

00:19:19.460 people ever paying off their student finance because the interest on the student loan is higher

00:19:23.880 than the average payments that are made. So you'll have people making loads of payments as a kind of

00:19:29.160 extra income tax all their lives. But then when they check their student finance, it's, it's a larger

00:19:33.300 loan when they originally started. And the same thing happens in the US. And this is what's turning

00:19:36.780 a bunch of, especially women, like college age women, the one who got these nonsense degrees and now 0.99

00:19:40.920 working in Starbucks to voting for the resentful socialism of Zoran Madani, who just says, we're

00:19:45.240 going to take rich white people's stuff and give it to you. Or we're going to, we're going to steal

00:19:49.080 from homeowners. And then, you know, his housing czar is quizzed on the fact that her, her mother

00:19:54.240 owned this massive property and she breaks down in tears. It's not about a coherent ideology. It's

00:19:58.340 not even about having the labor theory of value or the idea that expropriating property will have

00:20:04.000 us all live in a kind of kumbaya, John Lennon's imagine of infinite prosperity. It's just, I have

00:20:09.900 no stuff. They have all the stuff. I don't see a path to me getting stuff and I need stuff.

00:20:14.120 Otherwise, I don't feel like I belong in this civilization. So give me the stuff now. And if,

00:20:18.720 if our politicians don't fix that problem by actually upsetting the entrenched boomer class for which 0.97

00:20:23.320 they farm for votes, especially in my country, then they're going to have a revolution of various

00:20:27.680 flavors on their hands. Um, and it doesn't take a genius to see that. And, and the one thing I will

00:20:32.760 raise, cause Nathan will enjoy me mentioning H1Bs again, is Vivek in his, in his piece, which ended up

00:20:39.220 having to be retitled to what was it like, Groiperism is not Americanism. Um, in, in his piece, he said,

00:20:45.140 the solution to white guys realizing that every single other group has played identity politics

00:20:50.320 successfully at their expense is not for them to engage on the same terms. No, no, no.

00:20:54.600 Keep fighting with one hand behind your back. And instead we give to every child born in America,

00:20:59.820 a very, you know, clever rhetorical trick there, cause Vivek is an Indian anchor baby. 0.98

00:21:04.120 We give them the chance to, to have, uh, uh, X amount of stocks invested in fortune 500 companies.

00:21:10.520 We give them a chance to, to have their own apartment. And it's like, okay, even if you built

00:21:15.760 enough affordable housing across the entire Rust Belt so that every single person could have

00:21:20.460 a studio flat and, and a job filling in spreadsheets for info size, that still wouldn't

00:21:27.300 solve the problem of belonging that is causing the existential angst of Gen Z in order to, you

00:21:33.040 know, make them identify with the more concrete religions like Catholicism or rediscover their

00:21:36.940 identity as English people or heritage Americans, because they would still be packed cheap by jowl 1.00

00:21:41.380 with scammers and, and, and social climbers from the Indian subcontinent. So actually it's as much 0.99

00:21:47.480 a demographic and a identity issue as it is an economic issue. And so we can fix all the economics and

00:21:53.060 we need to, but you're still going to have that problem of feeling dispossessed in your own homeland

00:21:57.460 and severed from your patrimony. Even if, even if Vivek's, you know, is at farming at American

00:22:02.720 first pays off. Well, it's bred this really pernicious combination of simultaneously being nihilist,

00:22:10.780 but also being narcissistic. And it's a really, really grim combo that just completely grinds

00:22:15.800 your soul up. And I think why that's happening is the point that Connor made, um, or the multiple

00:22:20.500 points Connor made, which is you need, you need a sense of stake in the world to truly feel secure.

00:22:26.080 And what's happening with zoomers is as a lot of people have prescribed, uh, especially on TikTok is

00:22:31.000 zoomers all have main character syndrome. And what that means is, I guess in short, is they believe 1.00

00:22:37.880 that look, my only way I'm going to leave a mark on this world is by doing something big. And that's

00:22:42.740 going to be by being an influencer of some sort, because that, that seems for zoomers to be the 1.00

00:22:46.700 only avenue in which you can feel like you're taking up space in the world to feel like you're

00:22:50.760 possessing, um, space in the world that you're again, uh, leaving a mark in any meaningful way.

00:22:56.920 Cause that really is the only avenue that allows you to have your name put somewhere to again, feel

00:23:01.700 like I existed. I've proof that I existed on this earth. And that's because again, we are, we can't

00:23:07.700 own property. Like we, most zoomers have just given up on that. Um, there's data point after data point

00:23:12.180 just indicating that most zoomers are literally convinced they're never getting their property. 0.99

00:23:15.120 So they don't feel like they're ever going to have physical stake in this world. And then also they

00:23:19.700 don't feel like their heritage or their identity is going to have stake in this world. Because again,

00:23:23.380 they've flooded the place with third worlders. So it's like, they look around and it's like, 1.00

00:23:27.600 is my culture even going to like last another generation or my kids just going to experience

00:23:34.140 the same thing I did where I look around and who I am, who my identity as, as an American is,

00:23:39.380 I mean, going to be reflected in the environment around me. And it's just breeding this, breeding

00:23:43.460 this really horrific, uh, sort of, I guess, ethos for lack of bed work among zoomers where they're like, 1.00

00:23:50.060 well, if my identity is not going to be reflected in this world, there's gonna be no memory of memory of

00:23:54.900 me. And if I'm not going to leave a physical, you know, stake in the world, I'm not going to leave

00:23:58.600 any inheritance behind for my children. There's going to be no physical recollection of who I was

00:24:03.700 on this planet. So that only leaves me with one avenue, which is, you know, like the influencer

00:24:09.180 thing. So again, just leave my stake somehow in the, um, and the culture through entertainment and

00:24:14.740 these sorts of things. And that's, what's really breeding this main, uh, main character syndrome.

00:24:19.460 Tate, I think this is a great point. One of the, so Tate, you and Connor, you guys both do an

00:24:23.940 excellent job with all of your, you know, let's say all your like public facing communication and

00:24:28.080 such, but you know, there have to be other pathways for people to leave a mark, right?

00:24:32.600 We need more, uh, let's say zoomers to have the ambition to, you know, maybe become like a great 1.00

00:24:37.020 doctor, come back to their hometown, like, you know, really excellently serve their community

00:24:42.120 and then end up with, let's say like the school being named after them after they like coached the

00:24:46.220 team for this long and gave this money and whatever else. And like, increasingly that's not

00:24:49.960 the ambition of like the Gen Z individual, despite that being probably like in the twenties and thirties,

00:24:55.680 what we know was sort of an ambitious person would aim for. And that's, you know, that stuff

00:24:59.580 is really fundamentally pro-civilizational behavior. And like everybody's sort of trying to go viral on,

00:25:05.680 on Tik TOK or like, you know, maybe, uh, dabbling in looks maxing or, or, or, you know, trying to

00:25:11.500 mog online is like probably, uh, probably not, probably not healthy, um, uh, for us or, you know,

00:25:17.140 for future generations. I'll, uh, I really want to steer this towards the, towards the H1Bs. Like I, 1.00

00:25:21.880 I, um, thank you both for like teeing this up, like, you know, teeing this up, but no, really,

00:25:27.240 I actually, I want to lead to this historian from the late 20th century. Um, and, um, it's Helen

00:25:33.320 Horowitz and she, I was a professor across like, like a number of different sort of Ivy League and

00:25:38.400 adjacent, um, uh, universities. And it's really interesting, um, uh, let's say, uh, sort of way

00:25:45.260 of organizing campus life. And I think it relates actually to what we're seeing, um, in America

00:25:50.260 right now. And she essentially categorizes, um, students and she wrote mostly in like the eighties,

00:25:55.280 um, uh, was on this topic. Uh, she categorized students into three groups. Uh, the first is

00:26:00.740 college men. This would be like traditionally people like fraternity, ROTC, kind of like

00:26:05.480 traditionally even like wasps. And then the second would be the sort of rebels, which I mentioned

00:26:10.420 as relates to like, this is probably more of like the, uh, Vietnam war protester type, where even

00:26:14.840 like the Silicon Valley type, like sort of subverting, uh, the core. And then the third

00:26:19.860 would be like the outsider grind. And this would include, uh, you know, again, sort of

00:26:24.040 like very low, like low, low stats, low status, low class type individuals for maybe sort of

00:26:28.140 climbing through going to college. And there was always sort of a place for that. And, um,

00:26:32.220 and it could even like point to examples like Hamilton, right. Of course, who, uh, very, you

00:26:36.200 know, sort of low, low background, but really, uh, he would have been sort of in that

00:26:39.800 category, but, but made it through these sorts of institutions. Uh, but then finally,

00:26:43.780 like, you know, what's really important to note is that like foreigners are all in that

00:26:47.740 category and especially like foreign students and H1Bs. And I think that that heuristic actually

00:26:52.600 applies like broadly to our civilizations. Like really what we have with the boomers is 1.00

00:26:56.440 like the, like a whole bunch of people who should have been the core, like kind of the

00:26:59.480 college man or, you know, it's sort of a grouping. So it includes women as well. Um, you know,

00:27:03.680 maybe all of them sort of like moved into this like more rebel category, subversive category

00:27:07.480 and, or not all of them, but a great number of them are far too many. Um, and then now you

00:27:12.360 have all of these foreigners here, right. All different sorts of like visa programs, 0.95

00:27:15.960 legal migration, refugees, illegal immigrants, whatever else. And there's just like so few

00:27:20.680 people left who are actually preserving the core, like who like actually represents like

00:27:25.060 the, like the core Western identity and, and like our actual civilization. And this is like

00:27:30.060 fundamentally the biggest problem with the H1B. Like, yes, we can talk about the fact that

00:27:33.600 they're like, they're taking certain jobs. Like, yes, it is true that like H1B legally is supposed

00:27:38.140 to be for like critical skills that are missing. And it is true that like, as we, as we all saw

00:27:42.940 on Twitter and it was like, this is like, this was like published in prominent news versus like,

00:27:47.780 you know, the, the H1Bs were being used for a $30,000 per year cook number three at a hotel.

00:27:52.780 Like that's not like, that's, there's, there's like fraud. There are other problems. Like none

00:27:56.320 of this makes any sense, but at a very high level, you know, the, the problem is that there's,

00:28:02.200 there's just like not enough people advancing our civilization. And there are like far too many

00:28:06.860 people like advancing sort of like fundamentally foreign, um, you know, you, we could even go

00:28:12.000 into like the question, like, you know, a lot of these people are like, like, you know, in this

00:28:15.920 case, it's like, all of them are Hindu, right? It's like, you know, that's, this is like, like

00:28:19.280 base level idolatry, like pagan, like Eastern paganism. Like, we want to import like 50 million

00:28:27.300 more of those. Like, do you want your kid to have to like debate the merits of Hinduism in middle 0.75

00:28:32.340 school and like be proselytized or something? I think like some of this stuff, we have to like take

00:28:36.620 it, you know, uh, you know, maybe even moving like a stage, a step outside of the material

00:28:41.280 consideration for real, uh, like the cultural considerations and sort of like these sorts

00:28:46.200 of things I think are also particularly motivating for, uh, let's say Gen Z people who are like

00:28:50.580 reaching as you described, like, like, why are they looking at Catholicism? Why are they

00:28:54.080 like kind of maybe like yearning for more stability or like, like ownership or a stake? Um, you know,

00:28:59.860 a lot of assets do with, there's like actually not a lot to grab onto right now. And, um, uh, so,

00:29:05.300 like that's something we actually have to solve. Are you, are you implying that the founders didn't

00:29:09.760 envision a giant golden monkey god warrior statue in North Carolina? Are you, are you saying the

00:29:21.480 founding father Martin Luther King would have judged, uh, Hindus unfavorably on the content of

00:29:26.040 their character for that particular movie? Look, look, look, I mean, you, uh, you're the one,

00:29:30.220 you're the, you're a, you're the British lad, I guess. So, so, uh, I don't know if I should,

00:29:33.740 uh, I should, but yes, you're right. So they were not. So yeah, they wouldn't be allowed to do that

00:29:40.160 over here because obviously, uh, the Muslims wouldn't allow it. Exactly. What? Yeah. 1.00

00:29:48.220 Back on. I thought it was over, but I guess it's back. Yeah. I'll, I'll, I'll throw out something as

00:29:53.040 well. Like, I think, you know, not enough has been, not enough has been said on the, on the student

00:29:57.620 visa side of things. Like I think there's been a really good, um, really excellent attack on the

00:30:02.920 H1B where it's like pretty sour, like on average, probably like, you know, we talked to, we started

00:30:06.500 here like perception of capitalism, perception of socialism, perception of H1B has been, has been

00:30:11.140 tanking publicly, which is good. That means that, you know, we're winning the argument. I would say

00:30:15.140 student visas. It's still, uh, I think people still have a favorable view. Uh, you know, it's, it's like,

00:30:20.360 you know, NYU has 27,000 international students. Like I, it's like hard to even sort of wrap,

00:30:25.280 wrap your head around that, you know, MI, MIT has over a thousand citizens, like Chinese

00:30:30.640 communist, you know, like, like six full-blown CCP, um, you know, uh, people's Republic of China,

00:30:36.500 uh, people like currently like there and, you know, Stanford also that I was, you know,

00:30:42.580 with like some of the people at Stanford review, they blew a big story at Stanford that there was,

00:30:47.060 uh, you know, they reported on a, like a fully operationalized, basically like espionage

00:30:52.000 through students operation at Stanford, um, by, by, by China. And like, those are the,

00:30:58.220 there's like national security concerns, things like this. But then, um, you know, culturally

00:31:02.660 too, it's like, you go on campus and it's like, you know, like hall, it's like Halloween or

00:31:06.720 Thanksgiving or Christmas or whatever. And it's like, okay, like dude, what every year,

00:31:11.480 less of the student body even cares or participates. And, and this gets at like,

00:31:15.360 what we call like subversion of the core. Um, you know, I, I, I guess I want like our

00:31:21.280 colleges to like still have Halloween parties and like to still celebrate, like, let's do Christmas

00:31:26.180 actually at our colleges. And the fact that every year fewer people do is concerning, of course.

00:31:33.480 Yeah. It's quite depressing actually this year because, um, so my wife and I, we, so we actually

00:31:37.620 are one of the few zoom or she's a millennial, but we, we got a house. Um, it was 10 times when you said

00:31:48.560 earlier that, you know, American house prices have gone up from, you know, three times your average

00:31:52.360 income to a in Britain, it's gone from two times to 11 times. Like why? Yeah. My, my, my parents got

00:31:58.100 their house in the late nineties. It's tiny house, similar size to ours for, you know, less than a

00:32:03.940 hundred thousand pounds. And we paid North of 400,000 for ours. And it's like the same house

00:32:10.420 size just a few years later. Anyway. So when it was Halloween this year, we, we bought chocolate

00:32:15.220 expecting people to knock on doors. Cause obviously everyone goes trick or treating. We had one set

00:32:20.500 of kids knock on our door and it was two, two Asian kids. That's it. And we are, we are still

00:32:25.700 in a, a, we're in the, one of the only two places in London that's still like a English 0.99

00:32:30.260 majority borough. Nobody has kids in our suburb. It's so you're, you're right in that. Yes.

00:32:36.180 It's, it's also, you know, replacement migration. It's got economic effects. It's got national

00:32:40.720 security effects. We, we have about until the most recent immigration numbers, we had

00:32:45.880 90,000 Chinese visas issued every year. Pretty much all of those were students and a few extra

00:32:50.500 thousand as well from Bangladesh and India. So we had about a hundred thousand students

00:32:54.120 in again, a country, the size of New York state, our university system is entirely corrupt.

00:32:58.120 There was loads of intellectual property errors, but also, you know, campuses became an unfamiliar

00:33:02.980 environment. All of the best student accommodation was given to the Chinese students who were paying 1.00

00:33:07.200 for up from, and, you know, gambling in the common full, full sticker price. And same here

00:33:10.900 in America, I mean, we have one and a half million foreign students. And, uh, you know, a lot of it

00:33:14.740 is really this like interesting arrangement between the university administrations and these foreign

00:33:19.120 students where it's like, they, they sort of like profit personally, but I would argue a great

00:33:23.440 detriment to American students and to our sort of our country. Yeah. In Scotland where the university

00:33:28.660 is there, like, cause the Scottish students get free tuition. So there's zero incentive for these

00:33:33.000 Scottish universities actually accept Scottish students. So they just like literally battery

00:33:36.920 farm foreigners, as long as you're willing to pay again, full sticker price, come on in, 0.92

00:33:41.580 here's your visa and how you get two years extra in the UK. And there's a lot of people in China

00:33:46.100 and India. Right. And so it's like, it's not that hard to find like one, one guy whose parents are

00:33:52.320 willing to like cough up the 45 K or whatever it costs to send them to this place. And, and for them,

00:33:57.020 it's sort of a, you know, a way to sort of enter maybe some sort of another, you could be like,

00:34:00.780 you know, that, that incentive system is, is, you know, that, that's to be crushed. Of course,

00:34:04.860 like you can't, we can't have like the colleges that all of us went to just simply become like,

00:34:10.240 like farming zones for foreign students. Like, it's like, uh, it's, it's actually very dystopian.

00:34:15.040 Yeah, literally. And also it destroys your college teams. I mean, we need like, we need like,

00:34:19.120 Americans are the most athletic people on planet earth. What's Harvard going to do when it's all

00:34:23.020 Chinese? Seriously. I mean, like the, yeah, yeah. Oh, so many Jeremy Lens out there, you know, 1.00

00:34:28.800 like this is a serious consideration, but you two have both made a good point, which is like,

00:34:33.100 this needs to be amplified in the right is yes. There's a plethora of economic arguments against

00:34:40.120 mass migration or immigration broadly. And I accept all those and I utilize them myself,

00:34:45.620 but the demographic makeup of your country is a very, in and of itself is a very valid reason to

00:34:52.880 be opposed to immigration. Even if these immigrants were coming here and they were like economic miracles,

00:34:56.380 which they're not, but let's just presuppose that it's still valid to have a concern over

00:35:02.060 what my neighborhood, what my state, what my country looks like. Cause again, like I made the

00:35:07.400 point earlier, that's what gives you a sense of belonging in the world. That is when you look

00:35:11.880 around and there's people that reflect your culture and who you are as a person, that is a

00:35:16.280 stabilizing force. That gives you a sense of security in your life. Like you're not worried about

00:35:21.880 my culture, my people that are an extension of me, my nation, my people. You're not worried about that

00:35:27.540 being exterminated overnight. Like you still feel like you're going to have a degree of eternal,

00:35:32.740 um, you know, like you're going to have an echo of yourself continuing on after you pass.

00:35:38.960 Yeah. I mean, I've been, I've been spending, uh, maybe a little bit more time recently with a few,

00:35:42.860 let's say, look on my closer to fundamentals Baptists and you know, what's, what's,

00:35:47.560 that's always good for you. Right. I think, I think everybody should do a little bit more of that.

00:35:50.480 Even, even, even you caught her as a Catholic. Um, so, so, you know, you know, you, even just 0.74

00:35:56.240 like going back to the old Testament, right. And, uh, yes, we can, yes. First, before we go to the

00:36:01.440 old Testament, we can look at, you know, sort of the history of Christendom in, in Europe and across,

00:36:05.380 let's say, you know, after the fall of Rome up until sort of, uh, uh, let's say like, you know,

00:36:10.860 early modernity, but, um, you know, look, look at what like the actual old Testament says about like

00:36:16.140 how, how leaders of a nation should think about like foreign idolaters. Right. And, um, like,

00:36:22.600 just like, look at what Exodus has to say, like, yeah, it really is pretty explicit. Like you shall

00:36:26.000 like, you shall make no covenants with them or their gods. Like they shall not dwell in your land.

00:36:30.180 Like this is exactly what it, what it says now. Of course, this is a speaking to, to Israel in that

00:36:34.260 context, but of course, like, you know, uh, many of these things still apply. Like the, the church is

00:36:38.860 the sort of new Israel, the, the, the body of Christ. And yes, like, you know, I think people

00:36:43.860 took this seriously and, you know, whether you looked at like the battle of the Ponto, you know,

00:36:47.860 in 1571, you know, Christendom, you know, basically driving out the Muslims. Uh, it's like, 0.99

00:36:53.960 it's, um, you know, United forces and sort of interestingly, it's primarily, primarily Catholic,

00:36:58.160 but, uh, some, you know, like some like German Protestants, Lutherans came in and joined in,

00:37:02.080 in that, in that struggle. And I think like, you know, it's not just the Muslims. We have all sorts of,

00:37:07.020 you know, sort of, uh, sort of problems right now, I would say. And some of it's just nihilism,

00:37:11.420 atheism, like, you know, it was like the weirdest thing, of course, as well. And, um, these things

00:37:15.560 are real. And, uh, I think in the coming decades, uh, it's not going away. Like, uh, it, it will

00:37:20.440 require, you know, sort of like men who are, you know, men of the West who are Christian, who care

00:37:24.600 about these sorts of things to actually, uh, you know, let's like, you know, to actually like

00:37:29.440 advance, uh, something that's a little bit more, um, positive and serious, I would say.

00:37:34.220 Yeah. You're going to struggle to convince me diversity is a strength when it's

00:37:36.920 literally listed, uh, uh, as a punishment rule by foreigners in Deuteronomy. Like,

00:37:42.060 yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think, um, you know, there's, let's say previous generations

00:37:47.200 probably just like, didn't, didn't take this seriously enough, right. That this is like,

00:37:50.780 not going to go that well, actually in the, in the coming decades. You look at like, look

00:37:54.600 at Yugoslavia, look at what happened to South Africa or like, you know, all other places that

00:37:58.080 you could, you could look at, like this doesn't end well. Um, for, so, so, you know, it's important

00:38:03.100 that we, you know, people of our generation will say at least take it seriously. Yeah. Well,

00:38:07.580 like lip charts will literally be like, Oh, the reason these African countries are so 1.00

00:38:11.180 dysfunctional is because the European colonial powers arbitrarily drew borders without considerations

00:38:15.520 for like the tribal allegiances and qualms and that sort of thing. And I'm like, you just

00:38:19.780 accepted my terms, which is that diversity in and of itself will create a dysfunctional country.

00:38:25.000 They'll accept it when it comes to Africa. And that for the record is vaguely correct. 1.00

00:38:30.000 But then as soon as you import people from literally the other side of the world to the 0.99

00:38:34.340 United Kingdom, to the United States, and then that breeds dysfunction, it's attributed to

00:38:38.360 other factors rather than the truth, which is, yeah, you need, you need like demographic

00:38:43.300 cultural cohesion for a country to be functional.

00:38:47.100 If you create Somali spawn points in your suburbs though, I'm sure it'll just all go very well. 1.00

00:38:52.160 This is, this is the major frustration I have with a lot of, uh, liberals on the right where

00:38:58.320 they have blank slate presuppositions baked into their language, especially in Britain.

00:39:04.160 But you, you get a lot of this on the legacy American right, not, not much of the sort of

00:39:09.240 heritage American new right. Um, it's the idea that if we just got rid of the amplification

00:39:15.500 of differences caused by woke identity politics and kind of shut our eyes and refuse to recognize

00:39:22.520 intractable cultural and identity ethnic differences between groups. And if we just

00:39:28.180 did a rising tide raises all ships approach to the economy, and yet again, you know, we

00:39:33.120 need to fix a bunch of economic issues that have been dispossessing young men and women

00:39:36.740 of their opportunity to own a home and have meaningful work and have families, don't get me wrong.

00:39:41.100 But if we just rectified, if we just twiddled the dials on education, cultural cohesion,

00:39:45.480 and economic opportunities, then actually the, the kind of liberal utopia, the, the Mondani

00:39:52.880 socialists use as window dressing for their anti-white racial resentment, um, it will be

00:39:59.600 achieved. And it's actually, the problem is that the left are just going about the shared

00:40:04.660 premises the wrong way. I mean, this is, this is how you end up with the left and right

00:40:09.880 being the two cheeks of the same post-war liberal consensus backside that Reno's written about

00:40:13.920 before. And the, the, what I think we've recognized is with these fractured ethno-cultural

00:40:20.080 circumstances, which has, we've been born into because of just diversification and operating

00:40:26.680 our border and economic policies on blank slate assumptions, we recognize the natural tribalism

00:40:31.360 of human beings, and we are much more pessimistic about the prospect of integration and of the

00:40:36.480 material considerations that you spoke about, Nathan, resolving those intractable differences.

00:40:40.280 But our willingness to be honest about that is both the solution to the problem, but it's

00:40:46.120 also the reason the boomers recoil in horror from any person under 30 on their own ostensible

00:40:52.240 political side who is more honest about these issues. Like there is, there is no, nobody under

00:40:58.520 30 actually believes in the blank slate. They're either full-throated gay race, communist revolutionaries, 0.98

00:41:03.620 um, and appeasing various oppressed non-white groups or, or various perverted sexual identities, 0.99

00:41:11.220 or they're, they're just spouting 1350 and saying, saying Scott Adams quotes, uh, rest in peace.

00:41:18.100 Um, whereas your, your, your, your average boomer, like we've, we had this, we had this meltdown

00:41:22.720 recently where a bunch of liberal liberals on the ostensible right in the UK reacted to the,

00:41:28.680 the civil war in America between Shapiro and Vivek and Tucker and Fuentes by saying, oh yeah,

00:41:33.680 there's groupers all over the UK and they're talking about ethnicity and identity and they're

00:41:36.860 against civic nationalism. It's like, number one, that's not what that means. But number two,

00:41:39.860 we just speak in completely incompatible terms and you're not willing to recognize our concerns

00:41:45.820 as legitimate. And therefore, just like with economics, they're pulling up the political

00:41:49.940 ladder off to themselves and then wondering why their ideas don't have any purchase.

00:41:53.660 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, Nathan, I know you have a hard out coming up here soon,

00:41:59.740 seeing as you are in the business of solutions and, uh, you talk about this quite extensively on your,

00:42:05.180 uh, musings on Twitter and elsewhere in your publications. Could you give a sort of prescription

00:42:11.300 for young men watching this show? Um, obviously they are accepting all of our arguments because

00:42:16.420 they're just objectively true. We're just administering the correct take here. Can you maybe give a

00:42:20.560 prescription, um, and sort of a reaction to this, uh, you know, this entire conversation as we, uh,

00:42:26.200 close down here? Yeah, I would just say, I would, you know, I would encourage people to not fall into,

00:42:31.640 into nihilism or, or lack of action. Um, you know, what's exciting about doing venture capital is that

00:42:39.360 I get to talk with many of the young people who are excited about solving these problems. So things

00:42:44.400 like, like addiction in America or, um, you know, let's say family formation or home ownership,

00:42:50.920 uh, we generally look for young founders who are solving these problems. I just like,

00:42:56.200 so name one or two really quickly. Like we recently invested in sunflower sober, which is a platform for

00:43:01.520 people struggling with addiction. The founders passionate about, uh, solving opioid addiction,

00:43:06.100 other things in America, like the American housing corporation is doing basically, uh,

00:43:10.400 row home builds in cities that are well constructed for families. Uh, and there's some technology that

00:43:15.860 allows them to essentially build at a much cheaper price and sell to families. And so we're constantly

00:43:21.900 looking for people like that. And, uh, maybe my call to young people would be to, you know,

00:43:27.740 find people like that who are ambitious and are working on the big problems and, uh, go work on them

00:43:33.480 yourself. And so that might mean moving, um, or it might mean like investing more locally in your

00:43:39.260 community, but, uh, to, you know, like actually be, be a player character or maybe, you know,

00:43:44.400 we talked about, there's a little bit of like a main player syndrome, but maybe to like not do it as

00:43:48.020 much as the, like the influencer TikTok side, but to just go, like, go build and go, go do useful

00:43:52.980 things. And, uh, and then politics also matters. So I'd say, you know, you should be involved with that

00:43:57.180 as well. I love it, dude. Well, where can people find you? I'm on X. So just Nathan Halberstadt or

00:44:04.520 like at N-A-T-H-A-L-B-E-R-S-T-A-D-T. And, uh, also have a podcast, the new founding podcast where

00:44:12.840 I often try to talk with, uh, people across the cultural, political, and like technology type,

00:44:17.760 uh, type spaces that, uh, are, you know, working on some of the problems that we've been talking

00:44:22.360 about. I love it, dude. Fantastic. Well, thank you so much for hopping on Connor. Where can people

00:44:26.620 find you? And maybe if you have a similar anecdote for young guys. Uh, yeah, I don't know. I don't

00:44:33.080 have much advice other than, uh, in the inverse. Um, always, if you get the opportunity before you

00:44:39.280 have to enter the, the world of work proper, do a physical job. Like I would go insane if I didn't

00:44:45.660 have my garden. And I'm very glad that I was doing like day laborer gardening with my grandfather and

00:44:50.500 my uncle in my teenage years. Uh, it gave me some grounding and improved my work ethic. And it's

00:44:55.520 hopefully in Cincinnati's fashion, what I can go back to when we've, when we've won and we've pressed

00:44:59.680 the fix ever mix, which you can find me at Connor Tomlinson on YouTube and on sub stack should

00:45:04.860 be under Tomlinson talks. And you can follow me on Twitter at on the con underscore Tomlinson.

00:45:10.240 I love it. I love it. I agree with both your analysis. Yes. Find good people. That's the

00:45:14.480 most important part. It's the most difficult part of being a young person is finding other

00:45:17.960 like-minded individuals, but they're out there and trust me, you will find them if you look in

00:45:22.340 the right place. Uh, and yeah, I also agree with Connor. I mean, yeah, do something with

00:45:26.140 your hands, like figure out what you are capable of physically. I know it's, uh, you know, some

00:45:31.040 people in this space, they really go overboard with that, but there's so much truth. There's

00:45:35.040 you really need to know what you're capable of. If you are going to determine what your

00:45:38.600 purpose is and sort of which avenues you want to pursue. So I totally agree. Uh, with that,

00:45:42.980 you can follow me on X and Instagram at real tape Brown. We will be back next weekend with

00:45:47.000 more across the pond. Nathan, thank you so much for hopping on. We'll probably see you again

00:45:51.080 soon. So with that, we will see you guys next week. Thank you very much. Thanks guys.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - January 18, 2026

Housing Prices Are RADICALIZING Gen Z ｜ The Culture War's Across The Pond

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