The Culture War - Tim Pool - IT IS SO OVER

00:00:00.000 Well, thank you very much for coming on, Tim. I wanted to bring you on to ask you about a litany of topics that have been in the news recently. First and foremost, I want to ask you about the obvious, the elephant in the room, the SCOTUS ruling from yesterday.

00:00:12.380 Now, I brought on Mike Davis of the Article 3 project. He expressed how egregious the decision was, how this basically codifies this, and it's going to make it pretty much impossible to work around. Do you share the black pill that a lot of people have regarding this topic? Do you really think that this is just a massive setback, a massive defeat with no workaround whatsoever?

00:00:35.600 I couldn't be more white-pilled.

00:00:37.140 This is the greatest ruling we've ever gotten from the Supreme Court

00:00:40.140 because, as you know, I've been warning of a civil war for so long

00:00:44.340 that finally we get a ruling that's going to prove me right.

00:00:47.680 See, so that's all I really care about.

00:00:49.240 I'm kidding.

00:00:51.220 It's, you know, I genuinely thought with the election ruling

00:00:54.460 and with the birth, I don't know about birthright citizenship,

00:00:58.000 but at least the election ruling on Watson, BRNC,

00:01:01.180 we were going to get the temperature turned down to a degree.

00:01:04.600 we could see the semblance of an off-ramp scotus instead said let's just burn it all down not only

00:01:10.660 do you not have elections ballots can be cast indefinitely before and counted indefinitely

00:01:15.720 after election day but literally anybody who steps foot on the soil is american too

00:01:21.200 so we know for a fact as alito and thomas both pointed out there are what what is this about

00:01:27.200 like a million chinese nationals yeah who have a birthright to our country as an adversarial nation

00:01:33.260 enlisted and codified by Congress as an adversarial nation. So we're not going to get a constitutional 1.00

00:01:38.820 amendment. We're not going to get the SAVE Act. We're not going to get these things.

00:01:43.720 At a certain point, you have to ask yourself, as a Supreme Court justice, do we sit here

00:01:50.100 and rules lawyer or do we decide to save our country? Certainly there was a legitimate argument

00:01:57.880 that birthright citizenship did not pertain to anybody. Ask the Native Americans. When they

00:02:03.020 made this claim literally none of them actually got citizenship so we knew that wasn't the case

00:02:07.900 in which case why do we not have a majority court just saying exactly as it was when it was written 1.00

00:02:15.220 and instead playing a weird game to justify why a guatemalan woman can american ninja warrior over

00:02:22.480 the rio grande and that that baby she has on the spot is as american as apple pie my only conclusion

00:02:28.640 is that these justices intentionally they know what they are doing and it's on purpose yeah

00:02:35.180 absolutely i mean i'm glad you brought up that that last point about the you know the guatemalan

00:02:39.880 woman you know hopping skipping over the border and coming here because yes the birth tourism is 1.00

00:02:45.080 horrific with the chinese and the ccp angle and the fact that okay you know they pay a broker or 1.00

00:02:50.860 whatever have a baby here move back to china and then vote in our elections and whatnot but this 1.00

00:02:56.040 the scale of of this is actually far larger than people realize it's happening before our very eyes

00:03:00.640 i was just talking about um milo cones or however you say her name the ethiopian colorado

00:03:06.500 say again malat keros yeah malat keros who i thought was maybe just like a greek i don't know 0.98

00:03:12.400 like a greek business owner or something but no it turns out she's like an ethiopian socialist go

00:03:15.860 figure um people are like scratching their heads wondering where these people are coming from you

00:03:20.940 know are are just these like heritage americans in colorado just deciding all of a sudden like

00:03:24.820 maybe socialism is the answer is that what's going on here and it's like no uh it's actually

00:03:29.460 if you go look at new york city all the people that voted for giuliani live in like florida

00:03:33.180 and north carolina now you have a new voter block that's been imported and the reason why those

00:03:38.080 people are able to vote is because of birthright citizenship this isn't all just like naturalized

00:03:42.940 immigrants this is their descendants even their grandchildren in many cases who have not

00:03:47.100 properly assimilated haven't shaken their allegiances to their homelands and are now

00:03:51.060 voting and their interest and their interest is dsa you do you know who michael mccarthy is yeah

00:03:56.740 i we i interviewed him over the weekend we're airing that tomorrow night for the irl because

00:04:02.280 we're because it's the fourth weekend so i hope everybody watches it but he made a really great

00:04:06.420 point so i really do recommend this interview there was a somali a woman now hold on she's

00:04:11.960 an irish woman in fact but she is ethnically somali she was born in ireland to somali parents

00:04:17.100 and he said that she won some like Irish pageant for the nation.

00:04:22.700 I forgot, it's an Irish phrase,

00:04:25.280 but the Rose of Ireland, something like that.

00:04:27.000 And she's clearly not native Irish.

00:04:30.240 She posted a video apparently,

00:04:31.940 and in fact, I made this one because he told the story,

00:04:33.880 I'm giving you hearsay,

00:04:34.900 that she expressed something

00:04:37.120 that she had more affinity to her Somali sisters from Somalia

00:04:41.760 than to the Irish in Ireland,

00:04:43.680 despite being named some prominent Irish beauty pageant winner, and therein lies the big question

00:04:50.840 of what it means to have an identity. If you could be born in this country, in the United States,

00:04:55.120 but still swear your allegiance to a foreign land, it shows that you actually are not American.

00:05:02.580 The challenge here for all of us, I have no problem with saying America is a conquered nation, 0.74

00:05:09.200 Which means it is not entirely and wholly and absolutely a white Christian nation, but it is largely informed by, identified by, and built by white Christian colonizers who came from Europe, conquered a land. 0.99

00:05:23.760 And because it is a conquered land, you're going to find Native Americans. 0.94

00:05:26.720 There's going to be the descendants of black slaves. 0.95

00:05:30.240 Of course, I myself have some Korean heritage. 0.98

00:05:33.060 They fled conflict in Korea, came to the United States.

00:05:36.280 I think most people have no problem with that. The problem we have is there are people coming here. Their children do not have allegiance to this country, do not care about its founding. They adhere to a culture given to them by their parents. 1.00

00:05:51.500 So when it comes to like Ireland and the Irish, we know that there's an indigenous there.

00:05:56.540 When it comes to even Native Americans, I think there is certain respect that we give

00:06:00.780 to Native Americans as the now dominant, the dominion over this land. 1.00

00:06:06.380 But to have 10, 20 million third worlders come in and explicitly state they are here 0.96

00:06:12.480 for their home countries, this is the dissolution of the United States. 0.99

00:06:17.260 the scary thing is we have no other country we have nowhere else to go americans this is it 1.00

00:06:24.240 now if this ethiopian woman this uh mila akiros has a hard go of in america she can always go 1.00

00:06:30.060 back to ethiopia if nuclear annihilation comes to our doorstep she can go home the rest of us 0.76

00:06:36.300 we don't have anywhere else to go yeah absolutely and you're kind of seeing this play out in real 0.98

00:06:40.400 time at a very um sort of innocuous level with the world cup where you're seeing a lot of these

00:06:45.540 street interviews in like london or in berlin or paris where they will speak to people on the street

00:06:50.800 and they'll speak i'll just use london as an example is watching a video of a guy you know

00:06:54.680 just going around the street saying well who are you supporting in the world cup and you would have

00:06:58.240 these people who are visibly of sort of some sort of immigrant background um but you know in many

00:07:03.940 cases they would say well i was born in england i was raised in england and they said well you're

00:07:06.960 supporting england then right why would i support england i'm supporting ghana or i'm supporting

00:07:11.420 morocco or whatever um i am not really as angry with them because they are just following an

00:07:18.820 incentive structure that has been set up by our government i think this is like an important point

00:07:22.760 to make because a lot of people hear me hear you hear others who are expressing concern over third

00:07:27.880 world migration and they act like this is coming from some sort of like prejudice or some sort of

00:07:32.640 just outright dislike for for these people um and i have the complete opposite take really i love

00:07:38.300 diversity at the global scale right like i want morocco to remain moroccan you know i want ghana

00:07:43.200 to remain ghanaian um i just have concerns with the fact that when you bring these people here

00:07:48.520 um sort of bringing them into the tribe incorporating into some and incorporating

00:07:53.000 them into the tribe takes a lot more than just giving them a passport and sending them on their

00:07:58.040 way um in the united states the way that we had to assimilate the ellis island wave you know these

00:08:04.240 were southern and eastern europeans it took what two wars a great depression um and then a massive

00:08:10.340 you know economic boom and then 1950s 1960s roll around jfk um becomes the democrat nominee and

00:08:16.640 there's still a lot of concern over have the irish properly assimilated united states so it takes a

00:08:20.840 long time and a lot of different factors to bring these people into the fold but here's here's the

00:08:25.700 thing about that we talk about ellis island and you know we often hear these progressives they

00:08:29.920 try to equate you know hey the irish weren't considered white and it's like let me stop you

00:08:33.640 right there for a second um when without giving out any personal details of anyone privately but

00:08:40.500 friends of mine people that are actually in my family when their grandparents and great

00:08:45.360 grandparents came to this country in that whole wave they explicitly said to their kids you speak

00:08:51.540 english now yeah so i i have family members who uh their their grandparents their great

00:08:57.940 grandparents literally came from Europe speaking different languages. And they said, my children

00:09:03.420 will speak English. And now these, these people, they are Americans and they don't speak Spanish 0.76

00:09:09.980 or French or Italian. They speak English because that was the culture of America. Their parents

00:09:15.800 explicitly stated, we want you to be American. You want to be Americano, right? What we're seeing 0.70

00:09:21.600 now is we we've got Ilhan Omar saying, we're going to send money back to Somalia. We are Somalians.

00:09:27.580 They are not Americans. 1.00

00:09:28.720 They have no intention of being Americans. 0.67

00:09:30.920 And that's the principal issue that I think is going to result in conflict. 0.76

00:09:35.140 We had this debate last night in IRL.

00:09:36.980 You can't have two people of morally distinct ideologies living next to each other. 0.83

00:09:42.020 A good example of this is what we see in Dearborn, Michigan with female circumcision.

00:09:46.680 That's illegal in the United States, but it's culturally normal to many of these Muslims. 0.85

00:09:51.020 So what are we going to do? 1.00

00:09:51.960 We're going to send in the feds and go put the boot down on their culture?

00:09:55.160 well that's going to cause conflict yeah i mean this is what you're you've seen but i think it's

00:10:00.900 important to note and what you're discussing there is the idea of cultural proximity right

00:10:05.120 so it's going to be a lot easier to assimilate immigrants coming from countries that are

00:10:08.820 culturally approximate to the united states my evidence for this is donald trump himself where

00:10:13.280 on his dad's side his dad's parents or trump's grandparents were from germany and his mom was

00:10:18.920 an immigrant his mom was from the highlands of scotland so his mother's first language was

00:10:22.440 Scottish Gaelic. His grandparents on his father's side were German speakers from Germany. Yet there

00:10:29.040 really wasn't any difficulty assimilating in the United States because those people came to the

00:10:34.380 United States for other reasons than purely just economics. They came to the United States because

00:10:38.240 they were believing in the project in some sort of way. They wanted to be a part of that. They

00:10:43.140 saw it as a shining city on a hill. And you have to ask yourself, why were they able to identify

00:10:47.860 that like philosophical undercurrent

00:10:50.020 when a lot of other people aren't.

00:10:51.860 And I think it's because if you are German,

00:10:53.380 if you are from the Scottish Highlands

00:10:55.020 or sort of culturally proximate countries,

00:10:57.740 we're speaking the same language

00:10:59.480 from a philosophical point of view.

00:11:00.860 Like we are both Western countries.

00:11:02.440 We have that same philosophical understanding

00:11:04.040 and it doesn't make it difficult for them

00:11:05.940 to truly buy into that project.

00:11:07.680 But if you're from Somalia,

00:11:09.200 basic things like property rights, 0.82

00:11:11.780 like individual rights, individual liberties,

00:11:14.140 that's something that takes a lot of assimilation,

00:11:17.700 a lot of steeping to truly like understand if you're coming from a country like that and if

00:11:22.440 they're coming at very very small um levels then maybe it's possible but with the volume that

00:11:27.480 they've been coming here it's going to be entirely impossible i i genuinely wonder what these uh

00:11:32.380 powerful elites politicians corporations really do want you know if their goal is they want a

00:11:38.340 homogenized global culture this is not the way to go about doing it it eventually may result in

00:11:43.580 something like this, but you're going to get a lot of blood and death because you're mixing 0.95

00:11:47.800 cultures that hate each other. Maybe in 100, 200 years, people become more tolerant. But this just

00:11:54.840 seems like, I got to be honest, maybe what they really want, and by they, who is they? No, I mean

00:12:00.600 the big tech companies. I mean the Davos group, political elites. They want death. They want

00:12:06.800 abortions. They want population collapse, and they want culling to bring the population down.

00:12:12.920 And I think when you look at not every single element of governance internationally, but much of it is geared towards making sure there are substantially less people on this planet moving forward, which I suppose ultimately sends us back to the Stone Age to a certain degree.

00:12:31.080 Obviously, there are there's certain elements of technology will retain. But what people need to understand is that technology is a product of population size. You need as many specialties as as possible. One man cannot make a toaster. Believe me, he tried. He did a TED talk on it. So ultimately, I can't figure out what these people actually want other than for us to live like, I don't know what farmers or something.

00:12:55.120 Well, I mean, they're ultimately, I think you're right. I mean, I think they're ultimately trying to sort of turn, they're trying to create a global citizenry and then turn those people into the perfect consumer is sort of liberate them from their pre assigned identities, whether that be American or whatever nationality, you know, insert nationality here, they want to sort of decouple you from that hard identity, and get make you turn you into a human vacuum in which the only way that you could find an identity is through something that can be bought, right?

00:13:22.240 This is where you're seeing people now who will identify stronger with their NFL team,

00:13:25.860 which is just a corporation than their actual city.

00:13:29.140 Like Jerry Seinfeld actually had a really funny bit.

00:13:31.680 And there's a lot of truth of this is he was saying, you know, it's kind of nonsensical

00:13:35.460 to identify with a baseball team because the only thing that reflects your local community

00:13:39.020 is the name like the New York Yankees.

00:13:41.140 But no one on the Yankees, generally speaking, is actually from New York City.

00:13:45.900 Maybe the ones that are end up becoming local heroes purely because they're from New York

00:13:49.440 City.

00:13:49.640 So there's no serious like local identity with that team, but absent of any other identity that you have, a strong identity, you're going to have to identify with a corporation like that.

00:14:00.140 Or you're going to have to identify with Captain America because he makes you feel some sort of way.

00:14:03.880 They're ultimately trying to turn us into the perfect consumer. 0.96

00:14:08.420 Yeah, the sad reality, though, is the cultures that they're importing are remaining where they are. 0.99

00:14:13.840 They're just destroying ours. 1.00

00:14:15.580 And they make these arguments.

00:14:16.920 Trudeau said there was no core Canadian identity.

00:14:19.300 Of course there is. It's maple syrup and poutine and A at the end of every sentence. They did have something distinct. So now we see this mass migration. We are seeing the displacement of American tradition, hot dogs, apple pie, baseball, and all that stuff. But the people who come from Guatemala, Guatemala is going to retain its identity. It's going to retain its traditions and its history. But those Guatemalans are going to come here and they're going to displace ours. That is destructive to Western identity.

00:14:47.360 i suppose that's the end goal right yeah well and to your point it creates conflict i mean

00:14:52.800 go back to ellis island you know i talked about this when you were when you were out one friday

00:14:56.920 i was in charge of programming so i brought on jeremy carl scott greer and and steven edgington

00:15:01.740 and jeremy carl had made this point of like look the lesson from ellis island should have been

00:15:07.020 oh wow i can't believe we got well you know we made that work like oh thank goodness let's lick

00:15:11.260 our wounds and then never do that again no they learned the opposite lesson which was let's make

00:15:15.620 our immigration sources even more exotic and like let's just test ourselves i guess because

00:15:19.600 we even saw like with the irish who came to this country you know in 1870 in new york city you had

00:15:25.000 massive wars on the streets they called look up the orange riots of 1870 you had irish republicans

00:15:32.280 coming to new york city and there were northern irish orange men olstermen who were also in new

00:15:37.840 york city and they just engaged in their blood feud from back home on the streets of new york

00:15:42.360 city and they burnt buildings down and then you know i think it was done if hundreds of people

00:15:46.060 died and and etc etc caused quite a bit of damage and that was with a two groups that were so

00:15:52.540 culturally approximate to the united states that they were even like a present in the country at

00:15:56.480 the founding and so the lesson from that should have been oh wow i can't believe like we got out

00:16:01.220 of that in one piece but let's just never do that again um let's be a little bit more careful with

00:16:05.940 their immigration policy no they just went more exotic they're saying well if that worked then 0.98

00:16:10.180 surely Somalis will be able to come here. No problem. So what civil war, I guess, huh? 0.98

00:16:15.680 I don't think civil war gives us a bit of dignity on the way out. It's saying like, well, I'm

00:16:20.420 serious. Civil war gives us a bit of autonomy over our future, right? Civil war still gives us this

00:16:26.640 idea. It's almost like cope in a way because it still allows us to think like, well, when the

00:16:31.000 chips are down, we'll still be able to navigate our way out of this. If we just win this looming

00:16:35.360 civil war, I think it's the opposite. I think it's more like South Africa where we just continue to 0.83

00:16:39.660 get buried and buried and we react accordingly by like you know putting solar panels in the house

00:16:43.960 and building a wall outside of our of our home um and we just never actually reached that point

00:16:48.360 where we're like all right enough's enough like let's go for it it's just going to be us continuing

00:16:52.060 to take l's and reacting accordingly while they continue to crank the pressure up the funny thing

00:16:56.800 is uh if your grandparents it depends on the country but if typically it's like if your

00:17:01.280 grandparents were citizens or the child a child of citizens of a european country you can actually

00:17:07.340 get either a permanent visa or citizenship there but the problem i was going to say is you know

00:17:13.240 maybe there's no civil war so people flee but you can't flee to europe either because the same thing

00:17:17.480 is happening there too that and this is like a really salient point because i mean like again

00:17:23.700 it does seem to be primarily targeted at western civilization really i think broadly the global

00:17:29.740 north because japan is now facing the same pressures and i think this is why you can

00:17:34.400 accurately tie this back to ding ding ding marxism i know it's like almost cliche on in conservative

00:17:39.960 media to just like blame marxism for everything but quite literally marxism is when you reduce it

00:17:44.920 down a war from the uh from the um unimpressive it's war between the unimpressive and the

00:17:51.640 impressive and that's specifically why they're targeting countries like japan like south korea

00:17:55.880 because these are impressive countries the people that have built those countries have shown massive

00:18:00.740 of, you know, high levels of ingenuity and incompetence, et cetera. And the reward for

00:18:05.360 that is being targeted by this kind of global libtard cabal who just says, hmm, you guys must 0.99

00:18:11.260 be doing something evil in order for you to accumulate that much wealth. It's not actually 0.99

00:18:15.180 the fact that maybe the Japanese are just ingenuitive, you know, competent people. It must

00:18:19.940 be something else. So we need to import, you know, a million Indians to Tokyo. But they're not doing 1.00

00:18:24.620 it to China. Well, yeah, because China's this is this is a really good point, because, you know, 0.99

00:18:28.880 china is removed from this kind of global order and i think this is why you're seeing and i'm i 0.94

00:18:33.240 am not an orientalist i'm not going to do a tucker carlson routine like i do think the west still 0.99

00:18:37.080 should we should have a western-led world order but it must be said that the reason why countries

00:18:41.120 like china um are sort of skirting around these issues is because they're not plugged into the 0.84

00:18:46.060 global systems like the rest of the world is yeah i think uh what are we seeing with this birthright

00:18:52.440 citizenship ruling is that there's there's an estimated million or so chinese uh nationals

00:18:57.140 who are also american citizens so you just do the math the population is shrinking here and not that

00:19:03.720 china's population is growing i mean they're in trouble too but what happens in 50 years when

00:19:08.060 you've got two million chinese communist party members who have dual citizenship with the united

00:19:12.600 states and then they come here yeah and they run for office and our president's name is i don't

00:19:18.320 know chinese names uh guan is that a chinese name or something i don't know and he doesn't speak

00:19:22.620 english but he wins because it's a coalition of somalis sudanese guatemalans and chinese who vote

00:19:30.600 for him well this is why it matt this is why birth tourism um in a specific city is it's much more

00:19:36.940 relevant you know relative to the other forms of anchor babies we're seeing because it's targeting

00:19:41.180 like four cities it's like miami new york city los angeles san francisco i think seattle is another

00:19:46.300 city it sees high proportions of this so they're targeting like economic centers in the united

00:19:51.040 States. So you might hear 2 million Chinese and you're like, well, there's 300 and what,

00:19:54.560 335 million Americans. Like what's the big deal? Like they're not going to swing a presidential

00:19:58.440 election. It's actually far worse is they're going to be able to swing crucial bureaucratic

00:20:03.460 positions within cities like New York city, within cities like Miami, within cities like Seattle,

00:20:08.180 these cities that can, that oversee effectively like half of the economy. And now they're at the

00:20:14.960 sway of CCP officials. And I don't know if you'll see like, you know, Johnny Chong running for mayor

00:20:18.600 Seattle. Instead, you'll see Equalita Ramirez running for mayor, and then she's backed by all

00:20:24.540 of these, again, these CCP acolytes who are able to, again, A, vote for her, but B, occupy positions 1.00

00:20:30.120 to ensure that she can take power. One thing that we hear a lot of with the

00:20:35.180 illegal immigration issue is that they're voting. And it's not that they're voting,

00:20:38.920 it's that they count towards the census to give Democrats congressional seats and electoral

00:20:43.020 college votes. But one thing that we should mention in this is that Democrats have continually

00:20:47.400 tried to extend the right to local election voting to illegal immigrants. So it's important 0.99

00:20:53.560 to point out in the short term, we aren't as concerned about whether Trump will win. But like

00:20:58.640 you mentioned with these cities, with illegal immigration, these people are going to be voting

00:21:02.160 and the feds aren't going to go in to determine whether or not these municipal elections are

00:21:06.900 legally done or if there's widespread fraud. They're not going to investigate themselves when

00:21:11.380 they're doing this on purpose. And when you go from the roots upward, that's when that change

00:21:16.420 is going to happen. State senators, state reps, mayors, aldermen, whatever it is, are going to

00:21:22.100 be foreign aligned. It's actually really simple. The math is really simple. You know, I talked

00:21:27.640 about this with Rokhan. He came on the show last year. He's the child of immigrants. So his interest

00:21:32.900 is going to be in protecting his family. They're not Americans. So what does that mean? He's going 1.00

00:21:39.220 to vote in favor of policies that give other families like his access to our country. The

00:21:45.480 problem of course is he can go home this to him is a vacation this to them is conquest this to us

00:21:53.340 is all that we have so i'm i'm blackpilled i think a lot of people are but i would also stress

00:21:59.680 blackpilled just means in the short term really because what is the long term going to have for

00:22:06.800 us well the long term i can't tell you exactly what's going to happen the u.s may falter the

00:22:11.340 American people may lose access, but it never just ends there. There's an ebb and a flow to

00:22:17.260 these things. So if we end up seeing some kind of conflict, it's never the end of the story,

00:22:25.320 right? The world, they say the world may end someday, but in fact, the world has ended several

00:22:29.360 times. Ancient Egypt and the pyramids, the fall of Rome, civilization has collapsed and been

00:22:35.380 rebuilt the question is who is going to win in the long run and dare i say unfortunately for the 0.95

00:22:42.280 white european settlers they have bred a generation after generation of weak of effeminate liberal 0.99

00:22:51.220 minded fools who will give away what was built for them but in that you know one story that we're 0.99

00:22:58.320 seeing today it's uh getting a lot of attention front page of reddit as it were liberals and 0.98

00:23:02.560 leftists are having no kids yeah conservatives are starting to have more kids so this this uh

00:23:08.960 predicts something will change and it may get dark today but hard times will make strong men so

00:23:14.680 maybe maybe you don't got to be so black billed maybe you just got to go through some tumult

00:23:18.400 yeah i mean i i want to like propose two white pills here um one is the macro long term and

00:23:25.140 then the second is the short-term procedural white pill the macro long term is what you

00:23:29.140 outlined regarding birth rates yes conservatives uh christians um are in some instances when you

00:23:36.060 look at evangelicals and catholic white catholics are above replacement they're about 2.1 2.2 so

00:23:42.320 those populations aren't going anywhere um and they're gonna you know absorb uh more and more

00:23:47.520 political power even be even with immigrants because a lot of immigrants that come to the 0.99

00:23:50.300 united states their birth rates drop instantly so they can only keep it up for so long and we're 1.00

00:23:54.480 seeing all across the world india's gone sub-replacement africa's birth rates are tanking 0.88

00:23:58.440 So, again, it's not to say that we should like put all our eggs in this basket and say, well, if we wait it out, then eventually, like, I don't know, maybe we'll have like a, you know, 1960s American.

00:24:06.980 That's not what I'm saying.

00:24:07.740 I'm just saying, again, Trump coming in has given people hope that there's a future in this country again.

00:24:12.980 And that has a massive impact on people.

00:24:14.500 And they're responding by starting families.

00:24:16.080 And I think there's something to be said about that.

00:24:18.020 And then the second that I hit on is the procedural white pill, which is, yes, it would have been nice to put this issue away yesterday.

00:24:25.220 Right. 0.94

00:24:25.560 we wanted the court to rule birthright citizenship. It's gone. We're going by blood or whatever.

00:24:31.900 That's what we wanted, obviously. So I'm saying this is not a favorable outcome. But the Trump

00:24:37.920 administration now has the greatest incentive ever to crack down even harder on visas, on immigration

00:24:43.280 broadly, because in the back of their head, they're thinking, holy crap, like all these people around 0.72

00:24:48.340 the world just saw this headline. They're going to be flying over here at eight, nine months

00:24:51.540 pregnant. So we really got to go even harder on this. So procedurally, the Trump administration

00:24:55.820 now has the largest incentive ever to crack down even harder on legal immigration. And in addition

00:25:01.700 to that, we're seeing in Republican primaries, in GOP primaries, immigration is the issue.

00:25:06.300 John Cornyn just lost his gig over this. We're seeing incumbent senators getting primaried

00:25:11.600 by Trump, who his title policy is opposition to immigration. We're seeing active, ruthless

00:25:19.560 primaries now, where in the 2030s, we could be in a position as a party to act on birthright

00:25:25.620 citizenship at the congressional level. It must be noted, Kavanaugh did crack the door

00:25:29.660 to a congressional solution to birthright citizenship, and the dissent gives us a lot

00:25:34.200 of room as well. So I think there's two white pills there that it's not over. I mean, all that

00:25:39.640 really happened after yesterday is the status quo remains, but now the Trump administration has even

00:25:45.500 more incentive to crack down harder. I think Trump should just go him. I think he should go

00:25:51.040 executive order heavy. We saw this with COVID and we learned Cuomo signed executive orders to shut

00:25:57.640 down churches, not constitutionally allowed to do that. And when they, when the courts said, stop,

00:26:02.940 he said, I'll just issue another executive order, slightly different. And you can sue me on every

00:26:07.480 instance. One idea I heard that I think is really great. I think this was from Sean Davis was that

00:26:11.920 the states should stop issuing birth certificates to anchor babies and force SCOTUS and every court

00:26:21.940 to adjudicate each individual case. Good luck. Because even if they say we're going to do a

00:26:29.240 special class and they include, you know, this is where it gets real fun. If they do a special class

00:26:35.160 for, say, a large group of individuals who did not get granted their birth certificate,

00:26:38.320 it still is only going to be retroactive. And then after that, the state can still just say,

00:26:43.680 we're not going to stop. We're going to keep barring this. The interesting thing is they can

00:26:49.340 try to create a class of persons that includes the unborn, for which could result in a 14th

00:26:54.960 Amendment interpretation ending abortion outright. So they play with fire and you'll get burned. 0.99

00:27:01.060 That's one thing I'm really interested in seeing if they go in that direction

00:27:04.080 with the 14th Amendment, the argument, of course, that with birthright citizenship,

00:27:10.020 they are going to have to eventually argue, and they did before, but it's going to have to get

00:27:13.660 to this extreme degree, that the unborn are classes of persons who have rights, in which

00:27:18.780 case abortion's out the window. So close the door, open a window, we'll see exactly what happens. 0.71

00:27:25.560 The most important thing I can say is I saw this post about trans people, and a trans person said

00:27:32.760 that they're being genocided and the conservatives said you're confusing suicide with genocide

00:27:37.260 the funny thing is when we hear about the genocide of of a people or what what the left refers to as

00:27:43.560 the white genocide conspiracy theory or whatever my response is yeah there's an element of of

00:27:50.820 generational suicide not genocide in that white liberals are advocating for the destruction 0.86

00:27:55.800 with glee saying they hate white people so this is a choice made by at least half of the of the 0.89

00:28:02.200 the white population in this country advocating for not having kids and welcoming in third world 0.60

00:28:09.100 into the united states it's interesting that it's coming from you know the call is coming from inside

00:28:13.820 the house as it were yeah well there's two points there i mean on the first one you're talking about

00:28:17.680 again like these sort of procedural uh workarounds or defenses that trump can can apply here another

00:28:22.700 interesting one that i saw is that the 14th amendment only applies to the states uh but it

00:28:28.240 doesn't apply to our territory so trump should continue to push this issue by redrafting the

00:28:33.520 executive order that he signed that this was contested over to only apply to guam the northern

00:28:38.960 mariana islands puerto rico because a large part of chinese birth tourism specifically is done

00:28:44.480 through the northern mariana islands force the court to reckon with this decision force the courts

00:28:49.420 to take a look at that have to start contending even these insular cases make them like take what

00:28:55.820 their decision was to the furthest extent that they possibly can and make them reckon with that

00:29:01.020 i think that's a very natural decision to make it's it this is interesting and i think it's a

00:29:05.840 it's a great move because for one it would temporarily stop the guam and and you know

00:29:10.860 other territory birth tourism it would allow new arguments to come before the supreme court so

00:29:17.140 round two baby and then uh as an aside when trump signs his executive order about u.s territories

00:29:22.720 he can slip in canada under the implication that canada will be ours that's a very true salient

00:29:28.640 point um canada needs help to your point to your second point that you made anyone born in canada

00:29:33.720 is not an american citizen yet yeah real real by the way um and you made a really excellent point

00:29:39.540 there about kind of this suicidal tendency among among whites i think it's specific to anglos

00:29:43.620 actually i think anglos have a specific problem with this because when i was in south africa what

00:29:48.220 was fascinated me is how left-wing the anglo south africans are so the the south african whites of

00:29:53.780 english um extraction is they like literally would look around about how bad things have gotten over

00:29:59.160 the last 30 years and they're just assuming that equality hadn't been done right yet so even like

00:30:04.720 there's this idea on the right of like we should just accelerate we should just push this to the

00:30:09.660 the furthest extent and then people will wake up and there will be this like reckoning and everyone

00:30:14.140 will say we need to elect pinochet or something um that's not gonna happen like go look at south

00:30:19.080 africa talk to an english south african and you will be amazed by like how the cognitive dissonance

00:30:25.020 that is there they like they do not understand um that these policies that they're proposing will

00:30:30.480 just drive they'll exterminate them well let me let me let me tell you a funny story i interviewed

00:30:34.160 a couple south africans about 10 years ago and uh they told me south africa's not that bad i mean 0.98

00:30:40.680 this is what i'm paraphrasing what they're saying you know we hear all the time about how bad it is

00:30:44.280 in south africa and you know we grew up there it's not that bad uh the guy goes you know honestly i

00:30:49.280 think well i've maybe been carjacked only five times i mean and he was deadpan serious and i

00:30:55.720 was like i'm from chicago i have never been carjacked yeah they don't realize life can be

00:31:01.520 better they think this is the way it has to be it's it's it's terrifying when you have murders

00:31:07.520 when you when you have in south africa you have cages in your own home yeah so you can lock

00:31:13.220 yourself in a cage because someone got past the first cage and they're like oh yeah but i only

00:31:18.580 have to have two cages and i'm sitting here being like bro we still have neighborhoods in the united

00:31:22.260 states where we leave our doors unlocked yeah i mean this is my point where like people just get

00:31:26.340 used to how bad things are like as the decline continues people's expectations go with that so

00:31:32.040 again i don't think we're going to hit this point where people are like we need to go we need to go

00:31:36.160 the furthest extreme or we need to go to war or something like no people will just kind of

00:31:40.000 react accordingly as they've done in south africa another anecdote or story that i have is when i

00:31:44.220 was in pretoria um i was talking to some local students at the university and i was explaining

00:31:49.160 to them that like yeah these walls and fences around these houses to me are so shocking because

00:31:54.780 the united states we don't have that and they're like what do you mean i'm like yeah in the u.s

00:31:58.140 you just like walk up to someone's door and knock and you can like talk to them and they're like

00:32:01.280 what kind of fantasy land is this i brought this story up to a conscious character Ernst Van

00:32:05.740 zeal he's been on on my show um and he's like yeah i remember me and my wife he's a he's from

00:32:11.000 the johannesburg area and he's like yeah me and my wife we were watching some american movie

00:32:15.620 where a burglar approached the front door and like slipped something under the door or something like

00:32:20.280 that and he said he just looked at his wife and they just bursted out laughing because that is

00:32:23.560 just so out of like so unthinkable in south africa but did the south africans go to war over this or

00:32:30.080 like elected pinochet 2.0 no they just were like all right well let's just build walls one thing

00:32:34.840 that I always thought was really funny.

00:32:36.100 I had on one property I had years ago,

00:32:39.460 the front door was wood,

00:32:41.180 but it has this gigantic just glass window

00:32:44.560 on the front of it.

00:32:45.900 And I was thinking about that.

00:32:46.860 I'm like, you know,

00:32:49.200 like a wrench could break into this house.

00:32:51.580 The door automatically clicks locked

00:32:54.360 and then we have a deadbolt.

00:32:56.140 We're not super worried about it.

00:32:58.260 It's pretty wild to think there exists

00:32:59.960 these two distinct cultures

00:33:01.020 where someone might show up and be like,

00:33:02.820 wait, your door is made of glass.

00:33:04.160 it's like yeah so they could pick a rock off the ground like a pick up a rock they could literally

00:33:08.680 just punch through your door well yeah and walk right in and it's it's sad that we are losing

00:33:15.060 that that high trust society that we eventually will be living in cages with cages inside our

00:33:22.080 cages terrified of what's coming to this country yeah we'll be looking back at the the classic

00:33:26.400 hollywood trope where a kid hits the baseball and goes to the neighbor's window and they're like

00:33:29.860 oh no because now if a kid hits a baseball over someone's house like they'll have a mini

00:33:34.060 iron dome that'll shoot it down and then like attack dogs will go out and maul the kid or

00:33:38.040 something so that's a really that's a really good idea for a bit actually like the kids are playing

00:33:42.520 baseball and the ball goes over the third wall of the neighbor's house and they're like at the

00:33:47.780 navigate trenches to get through to find their their baseball yeah they gotta like dodge all 0.99

00:33:51.920 the palantir death robots that are gonna like try and kill them for breaking in their homes

00:33:56.200 yeah yeah sandlot seagull sandlot south africa well tim thank you so much for joining us today

00:34:03.020 um we are running out of time here but uh i'm really i really appreciate you coming on

00:34:07.360 where can people find you tim cast everywhere on that channel too you can literally just look at

00:34:14.300 the bottom of the screen follow tim so well thank you guys thank you very much for watching we'll

00:34:19.520 see you guys tonight at tim cast irl at 8 p.m you can follow me on x instagram at real tape brown

00:34:24.240 and thank you very much for watching see you later

00:34:33.020 You

The Culture War - Tim Pool - July 01, 2026

IT IS SO OVER

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript