The Culture War - Tim Pool - JD Vance DEFENDS Young Republicans Over Group Chat Leak, Cancel Culture Is OVER ft. Gabe Guidarini

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00:00:45.040 So it just goes to show when you give people oxygen in this way,

00:00:50.980 in a double standard environment where the left is able to get away with just about everything that they do wrong,

00:00:57.640 and the right are constantly monitored with a microphone, with a magnifying glass.

00:01:06.080 When that double standard exists, the last thing you want to do is cave in and give that double standard any more legitimacy.

00:01:14.000 It's time for Republicans to start playing hardball.

00:01:16.460 Hey, everyone. I am your host, Tate Brown, here, holding it down for Tim Pool.

00:01:20.540 We have a big story here, an exclusive story from Politico.

00:01:25.100 Leaked messages. I love German painter here.

00:01:28.200 Leaked messages expose young Republicans' racist chat.

00:01:31.680 Look, this is a real shocker. I know. Zoomers are a little edgy, right?

00:01:35.360 Their group chats are a little rough around the edges.

00:01:37.740 It's, you know, total, total shocker. It's absolutely no one.

00:01:40.960 But they dropped this yesterday, and the reaction has been wild.

00:01:44.940 Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about a variety of things.

00:01:51.340 This was a Telegram chat that was leaked yesterday.

00:01:54.160 I'm sure you've seen the article by now.

00:01:55.900 But the reaction from a lot of people in the GOP has been condemnation, firing.

00:02:01.540 It's basically just cancel culture, rehashed.

00:02:03.260 Meanwhile, on the left, you have Jay Jones, the AG candidate, who was literally endorsing death and despair for his political opponents.

00:02:15.580 And no one in the Democrat Party has provided a full-thirted condemnation of this.

00:02:19.740 They completely dance around about this.

00:02:21.580 And the reaction from Vice President J.D. Vance to this Politico article was absolutely fantastic.

00:02:25.580 Here's what he tweeted yesterday.

00:02:27.040 This is far worse than anything said in a college group chat.

00:02:30.460 And the guy who said it could become the AG of Virginia.

00:02:35.300 I refuse to join in the pearl-clutching when powerful people call for political violence.

00:02:39.960 So Vice President Vance setting the framing very well here.

00:02:43.900 He is excellent. He gets it.

00:02:45.420 He's saying now is not the time to punch right when this is what we're up against.

00:02:49.580 This is the firestorm of leftist political violence that has been engulfing our country.

00:02:54.740 And so, fantastic.

00:02:55.660 And many people in the GOP are to the left of the Vice President.

00:03:00.960 What does that say about the moment we're in as a party?

00:03:03.980 Unbelievable.

00:03:04.500 If you're to the left of the Vice President right now, you're not helping.

00:03:07.800 You're not on the team.

00:03:08.560 So we're going to bring in Gabe Guidorini here.

00:03:10.780 He is a college Republicans expert.

00:03:13.500 He's been in this space for a very long time.

00:03:15.760 He's very familiar with it.

00:03:17.240 And he's going to break down what's going on here, what his reaction was to the article.

00:03:20.440 But more importantly, we're going to drill down on the GOP's reaction, a lot of people in the GOP's reaction.

00:03:25.500 And we're going to break all that down.

00:03:27.300 So we have the interview coming up.

00:03:28.860 Stay tuned.

00:03:29.800 It was a great chat.

00:03:30.620 So I'm Gabe Guidorini.

00:03:32.240 I've been in Republican politics on the young Republican side for a long time.

00:03:37.460 Previously, I was Vice President and then Acting President for the College Republicans of America,

00:03:43.120 which oversees an overwhelming majority of the college Republican chapters around the country.

00:03:48.880 And then currently, I'm the chairman of the Ohio College Republican Federation,

00:03:53.760 which oversees all the college Republican chapters in the state of Ohio.

00:03:58.300 And I've been working with a lot of different groups before and just trying to get young people engaged

00:04:06.020 and fight back against the left on our campuses.

00:04:09.920 Totally.

00:04:10.480 Well, that's great.

00:04:11.080 Well, thanks for hopping on.

00:04:12.480 Before we get into the reactions to the Politico article, can we first get your reaction?

00:04:17.360 What was your reaction yesterday when this article got dropped into your desk?

00:04:21.360 What did you think?

00:04:23.120 Well, the first thing that I really noticed right off the bat was the, you know,

00:04:28.540 it's just another instance in the pattern of left-wing journalism that isn't really focused on enlightening people.

00:04:37.320 It isn't really focused on helping people understand the facts and understand the truth.

00:04:42.820 But it's more focused on painting the Republicans as evil, more focused on getting a political agenda across. 0.98

00:04:50.780 And in this case, that political agenda is all Republicans are Nazis, fascists, racists, whatever you'd call it. 0.99

00:04:58.080 And it's just another pattern. 0.99

00:05:00.500 And they've been doing this stuff for a long time.

00:05:02.660 But what really struck me is how swift and coordinated the response was to condemn these people.

00:05:11.160 And not everyone in that chat even had texts that were, you know, really that bad.

00:05:17.380 Not everybody in that chat.

00:05:19.000 There were like, what, 12 or 13 people in that chat.

00:05:22.040 Not everybody in that chat had, you know, really, really scathing texts attributed to them.

00:05:28.560 But everyone in that chat felt the same fire from the GOP establishment.

00:05:33.460 They felt the same wrath from the establishment elements of the Republican Party and of the political system.

00:05:41.320 And it just goes to show that no matter who you are, no matter what association you have, no matter what you've actually said,

00:05:49.400 people will throw you under the bus at a moment's turn if they believe that they are at risk from the left.

00:05:54.880 And, you know, the thing that I really, you know, like to communicate, and J.D. Vance talked about this yesterday, is it doesn't matter what you say.

00:06:03.900 It doesn't matter what, you know, who you associate with or what you do or who you talk to.

00:06:10.460 The left will call you these things regardless.

00:06:13.640 The left will do these things to you regardless.

00:06:15.700 It doesn't matter what you are or what you say. 0.88

00:06:18.660 The left, to them, to the left, you are a Nazi. 1.00

00:06:21.600 You are a fascist. 1.00

00:06:22.560 If you are a Republican, if you are a Trump supporter. 0.93

00:06:25.980 So that's the double standard that really comes into play here, especially when you consider how the left treats their own radical elements,

00:06:33.760 treats their own people who say way worse things.

00:06:37.460 Jay Jones said something miles worse than what was said in this chat,

00:06:42.780 which is he was fantasizing about murdering a Republican lawmaker and his children because he believed that he was intrinsically evil.

00:06:50.280 And those text messages were released.

00:06:53.740 Not a single Democrat has come out and defended and revoked their endorsement of Jay Jones for what he said in those text messages.

00:07:03.640 So, you know, it's a major contrast from what you see from the Republican establishment condemning, instantly condemning and throwing under the bus all the people who were in that group chat for edgy jokes at best, poor taste content at worst.

00:07:21.000 But it's a really stark contrast between how the GOP treats their elements that are perceived as radical and how the Democrats treat their radical elements.

00:07:32.740 Totally. I mean, what does this say?

00:07:35.140 Because we saw the last three primaries now where this sort of cancel culture sort of mentality loses at the ballot box every single time.

00:07:43.380 Donald Trump himself is a repudiation of cancel culture, of this finger wagging, of punching right, because he understands the moment we're in.

00:07:51.480 He understands what time it is.

00:07:52.460 And he understands that the left has these radical elements that ultimately want to kill us, as the AG candidate in Virginia has clearly demonstrated.

00:08:00.180 What does that say about some of these, I guess you would call them stragglers, but there's obviously entrenched power that is outflanking the vice president of the United States to the left?

00:08:11.160 Well, I think it just goes to show that the Republican Party isn't on the same page.

00:08:15.900 We do not know, you know, the motivations behind all the people who are pushing this out.

00:08:22.000 But it's very clear that there was coordinated activity behind the scenes before this article came out to instantly throw these people under the bus.

00:08:31.000 People were fired even before this article came out.

00:08:34.040 And I think that really goes to show how eager and desperate a lot of establishment elements in the Republican Party are to clean house with anyone who isn't in the establishment wing.

00:08:45.580 And this gave them, this unfortunately gave them a basis by which to do so.

00:08:51.960 But it just goes to show, you know, J.D. Vance and Stephen Miller and a lot of these really, really good elements within the Republican Party, they know the correct way to do this.

00:09:02.300 They know the correct way to respond to this, which is to not give the left any oxygen whatsoever because they deserve none.

00:09:08.380 And you may recall in 2016, during the Access Hollywood taste, when that was released about Donald Trump, when he was first running for president, when those came out, everyone in the Republican Party who meant anything threw him under the bus at a moment's notice.

00:09:24.260 They said he's dead on arrival.

00:09:26.380 He's, you know, cooked.

00:09:27.880 He's not going to make it.

00:09:29.620 These audio recordings are as scathing as can be.

00:09:33.460 And what did Donald Trump do?

00:09:35.040 He stood firm, completely unapologetically.

00:09:39.380 He stood firm and defended himself, defended his reputation, defended his legitimacy as a candidate.

00:09:46.860 And he won, much to the shock of all those establishment Republicans who many of them have since joined forces with Trump and have gone in line, and rightfully so.

00:09:56.800 So it just goes to show when you give people oxygen in this way, in a double standard environment where the left is able to get away with just about everything that they do wrong, and the right are constantly monitored with a microphone, with a magnifying glass.

00:10:17.920 Because when that double standard exists, when that double standard exists, the last thing you want to do is cave in and give that double standard any more legitimacy.

00:10:26.020 It's time for Republicans to start playing hardball.

00:10:28.320 And until, you know, I tweeted this out, like until, and a few people have actually talked about this too.

00:10:37.480 Brandon Gill, a congressman from Texas, who I think has been really great, texted this out, look, these text messages are horrible.

00:10:45.600 From Jay Jones.

00:10:47.540 Yeah.

00:10:47.640 And the Democrats will not condemn it at all.

00:10:49.840 The Democrats never say anything about their radical elements.

00:10:53.320 So why should we give them any more oxygen by throwing other Republicans under the bus?

00:10:58.640 I don't see any reason to.

00:11:00.420 Totally.

00:11:01.140 Totally.

00:11:01.700 Well, I mean, there's something to be said about J.D. Vance.

00:11:04.780 There's like a little echo on your end with the, maybe it's the laptop.

00:11:08.240 I'm not sure.

00:11:09.840 Possible.

00:11:10.560 Yeah.

00:11:10.740 But, um, yeah, so we have, I mean, J.D. Vance specifically going out and getting the framing correct.

00:11:18.000 He, he, he set the framing, he set the tone for how people should be responding to this.

00:11:22.100 Could you maybe speak a little bit?

00:11:23.220 Cause J.D. Vance has been, um, he, he kind of has a finger on the pole specifically with what young Americans are feeling, young Patriots are feeling.

00:11:30.720 Could you maybe speak a little bit to J.D. Vance's reaction, what that says about the future of the GOP?

00:11:36.200 Yeah.

00:11:36.600 Um, you know, J.D. Vance's reaction, I think just kind of paints him more as the future of the GOP, because, you know, the reason I think it goes both ways, he is the future of the GOP.

00:11:50.280 And that's also part of the reason why he is ascended as far as he has, you know, I, I, I remember getting my start in Ohio politics, actually interning on his campaign back in 2022, when he was running for U.S. Senate.

00:12:03.360 And one of the things that got me and a lot of other young people in Ohio so motivated about his campaign was that he was young, that he understood the issues that actually appeal to young people, and that he was ready to play hardball against the left.

00:12:19.120 And J.D. Vance and Stephen Miller do this better than just about anyone in the upper echelons of the, echelons of the Republican Party.

00:12:27.440 And that's why I think they've ascended so far, is because young people see that, and they are recognizing, they are remembering that there are people in the Republican Party who are willing to stand by them, who are willing to support them, and who are willing to fight for them against the left, for fight for their interests, fight for the future of this country against a left that has abandoned all sense of morality, that has abandoned all sense of pride and country.

00:12:56.360 And J.D. Vance and J.D. Vance and J.D. Vance and Stephen Miller are setting the blueprint for how Republicans should be playing hardball against the left.

00:13:03.640 And that's, I think, why J.D. Vance has become, in many ways, the frontrunner for the GOP nomination in 2028.

00:13:10.780 And that's why I think he'll continue to have a large influence in conservative circles going forward, because he consistently proves his expertise and good talking points and good messaging on issues like this, messaging that we sorely need right now.

00:13:28.260 Totally. I mean, well, J.D. Vance just, I mean, he gets this one principle, which so many in the GOP don't, is if you're in a dogfight, don't punch right, don't punish people who are ultimately on your team.

00:13:39.720 That's just like politics 101. I mean, I saw this tweet, this was earlier today, Will Chamberlain actually, you know, he quote tweeted it.

00:13:46.080 This is from an attorney out of Chicago, an immigration attorney, Eric Lee, and he said, quote,

00:13:52.060 If your visa was denied or revoked due to Charlie Kirk related speech, the Consular Accountability Project is interested in representing you pro bono.

00:13:59.540 So he's obviously responding to the Department of State's, you know, policy where they're not going to distribute visas to people who are dancing on the grave of Charlie Kirk.

00:14:09.240 The left has zero appetite to police their radicals whatsoever, because they understand that they're in a war with us.

00:14:17.560 And why would they attack people on their team? But there's a degree to it, because they're defending people that want to kill people.

00:14:26.200 They're defending political violence, people that celebrate political violence, versus the right, we're already just throwing people under the bus for edgy jokes.

00:14:33.720 I mean, maybe you could elaborate more on the types of actors that the left is going to bat for and sort of their reaction to their radicals.

00:14:45.120 Yeah, well, I mean, the left only has so much political capital in this environment that they can afford to spend.

00:14:51.940 I think that the young Americans, especially, and polling shows us too, are kind of turning against the political left.

00:14:59.680 And I think that older Americans are too.

00:15:03.220 I think one of the things that really sparked this off originally was September 10th, and the murder, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:15:11.900 Democratic leaders, right, this was a very transparent moment.

00:15:16.280 Democratic leaders were coming out and condemning it and condemning all political violence.

00:15:21.580 But their interns, the people underneath them, their supporters, the most vocal people in the young left and the Democratic Socialist organizations were coming out.

00:15:33.880 They were just mocking Charlie Kirk.

00:15:35.480 They chose to either ignore it or worse, they chose to actively joke about it, mock Charlie Kirk.

00:15:43.920 And what it says, I think, about the left is that in many ways, the left is not only worse than the Republican Party.

00:15:53.400 They are about as bad as you can get in terms of systemic ignorance regarding the extremism of their own circles, of the actual people working underneath them. 0.96

00:16:04.040 Look, you look at Capitol Hill, most of these Democratic politicians are, you know, they're old white guys. 0.90

00:16:10.400 They're probably a lot more moderate.

00:16:12.380 They would, in olden days, they'd probably be more blue dog types.

00:16:16.080 But their interns who pull their strings are about as far left as you can go. 0.99

00:16:21.840 These are people who truly, you know, 50 years ago, they'd be in the weather underground.

00:16:26.740 These people truly have a disdain, not only for America in general, but also for Republicans as people because they disagree,

00:16:37.380 because they believe that Republicans are morally reprehensible and that they are morally unable to assimilate to their vision,

00:16:45.580 their progressive idea of what this country should be.

00:16:49.560 And that just continues to show itself more and more every single day.

00:16:54.360 The amount of people, you know, it was the fact that there were 100,000 people in this country, at least,

00:17:01.840 those are only the people that we know of that were put on that database for laughing or supporting Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:17:10.480 It just goes to show the systemic rot in this country has gotten really deep.

00:17:16.340 And people are taking note of that, not only on the political right, but in the political center as well.

00:17:22.140 So the Democrats are now, I believe, in a panic frenzy to try and shove all this stuff under the radar.

00:17:30.220 And I think that's where a lot of this comes in, too.

00:17:32.680 They believe that by painting the Republicans as actually being Nazis or actually being fascists,

00:17:38.720 that they can shove the attention away from them and put it on the right and label all young Republicans,

00:17:47.320 label the young generation of conservatives as far-right Nazis, morally reprehensible.

00:17:56.080 What people may not be expecting and people may not have expected is the unlikely ally or perhaps likely ally

00:18:05.960 that they have received from the moderate right, from the establishment elements of the Republican Party,

00:18:11.700 who seem completely ready and willing to go to bat for the left and to work with the left to paint the extremists,

00:18:21.080 you know, paint these people as extremists, to try to push aside every element of a more conservative right wing away

00:18:30.260 by labeling everyone as Nazis, by trying to make examples of people, by ruining their lives.

00:18:39.140 So it just goes to show that, you know, when the left plays hardball, they are able to get away with it.

00:18:46.980 They are able to try and push it aside.

00:18:49.400 But the right can't play hardball if we have half the party desperately trying to work with the left to put the attention back on the right.

00:19:00.480 The attention needs to be on the left because they're the people that, you know,

00:19:03.720 the left is where the violent energy is coming from.

00:19:07.700 Not all leftists, obviously, but when there is political violence going on in this country over the past several months,

00:19:15.640 whether it's with Charlie Kirk or whether it's violence directed at ICE agents in Chicago and Portland,

00:19:21.680 it's coming from the left.

00:19:23.500 It comes from a place of political leftism and progressivism.

00:19:28.680 And Republicans need to start acknowledging that much more boldly.

00:19:31.820 And J.D. Vance and Stephen Miller are paving the way.

00:19:34.940 Totally.

00:19:36.000 That's so true.

00:19:37.700 Because you're tapped into these college GOP circles, obviously, through Turning Point and other of your, you know,

00:19:43.440 with your experience and that sort of thing.

00:19:45.300 What is the reaction from young Republicans across the country to this whole situation?

00:19:51.960 What are you hearing?

00:19:52.880 What are they saying?

00:19:54.040 These sorts of things.

00:19:55.800 Well, I think to most young Republicans, the actual, you know, in the broad scheme of things,

00:20:01.620 it's an environment where Charlie Kirk was killed and where Jay Jones hasn't lost a single endorsement

00:20:07.900 for his horrible statements that he made over text messages that were released.

00:20:13.020 I think young Republicans have really exhausted all their energy to care about this particular situation.

00:20:20.960 What infuriates us more is the response from establishment Republican elements.

00:20:27.420 And it just goes to show, look, if somebody is placed in a difficult situation, if somebody has somebody go after them or allege something about them,

00:20:37.320 that the people that they work for, the people who they are supposed to rely on, who they believe that they should be able to rely on,

00:20:45.300 will just throw them under the bus at a moment's notice to protect their own name, to protect their reputation among donor groups.

00:20:52.200 And it just goes to show that these people are just not in line with the young elements of the GOP whatsoever.

00:21:01.020 And I think it's a lot more systemically induced than that.

00:21:06.260 You know, the Republican Party, in many cases, actively seeks to shove young people away from the table.

00:21:13.120 And when they do have young people that they try to bring in, usually these young people are more focused on, you know,

00:21:21.440 they're people who they believe that they can control, they can control their rhetoric, they can, you know,

00:21:27.840 they can make sure that these people are parroting the right talking points.

00:21:32.220 Look at who makes up the RNC Youth Advisory Council, for instance.

00:21:36.000 So these, the Republican Party will bring those people in.

00:21:41.440 And then you have people like Dan Crenshaw, who go out and say, if you're under 25, you should not be running for office.

00:21:48.400 Who says something like that?

00:21:49.800 We need more young people running for office.

00:21:52.100 I feel like that's something that even most older folks can agree on,

00:21:56.000 that more young people should be in leadership positions in this country.

00:21:59.160 But the fact of the matter is a large amount of the Republican Party does not want more young people in leadership positions

00:22:06.120 because they know that young Republicans and young conservatives are willing to play hardball on the issues that matter most.

00:22:13.380 Totally.

00:22:14.080 What is the prescription here for these stodges, these old heads that are basically ladder pulling these young guys? 0.98

00:22:22.320 I mean, obviously, it's a matter of time, you know, given a few decades, this will flush itself out of the system.

00:22:27.720 But the moment we're in where we're facing an existential threat, an internal, a domestic, you know, existential threat,

00:22:35.260 what in the short term can we do to sort of mitigate this ladder pulling to get people that are focused on breaking this leftist power

00:22:43.800 into positions of prominence and boxing out these stodges that don't really get it, that are functionally Democrats?

00:22:50.220 Well, we have to show them who, where the energy is actually coming from within the Republican Party

00:22:57.340 and show them how little leverage they actually have.

00:23:00.680 And that means combating the precedent that they're trying to set right here and right now with this particular issue.

00:23:09.060 Ratio, you know, look at all these establishment Republicans getting ratioed on Twitter right now.

00:23:14.380 I think it was pleasantly surprising that these people are seeing serious backlash because the Republican base at this point

00:23:22.420 just has no energy for firing to the right.

00:23:27.680 They want all the fire.

00:23:29.900 They want all the arrows.

00:23:31.060 They want all the attack messaging.

00:23:33.420 They want all the energy placed on making sure that people recognize that the left is the issue in the political system right now,

00:23:44.480 that the left is the facet of our political system that's actually contributing to violence

00:23:50.680 and contributing to the political decay and polarization that we're seeing right now.

00:23:56.520 So just setting that message, making sure that these people are aware, because they're in bubbles, right?

00:24:01.920 These establishment Republican types are in bubbles.

00:24:05.200 They hang out in musty old rooms with other old people. 1.00

00:24:09.000 And they are not, you know, they're not plugged in with what young people are saying.

00:24:14.220 And that needs to change.

00:24:15.580 And you saw it yesterday and today with these people, these establishmentarians coming on to Twitter to instantly denounce these people,

00:24:24.400 thinking that they'd be OK.

00:24:26.020 Meanwhile, they just have a bunch of right wing young people coming in and just totally torching them

00:24:31.640 because they're throwing people under the bus and putting no attention on the left whatsoever.

00:24:36.780 And then the left still calls them Nazis.

00:24:39.600 So it doesn't they gain nothing out of doing that.

00:24:42.740 And, you know, making an example out of them in that way is really important for being able to build a Republican Party that knows how to fight and knows how to win.

00:24:52.580 Yeah, well, I want to drill down a little bit on the sort of the the the overall vibe among young people, because, look, we saw the group chat.

00:25:03.180 We read the text.

00:25:04.000 It's in the article, these sorts of things.

00:25:06.700 If you're older, that's obviously very scandalizing.

00:25:09.380 But for young people, it's it's not so much.

00:25:12.780 This is actually kind of familiar.

00:25:14.240 These these group chats are typically quite edgy.

00:25:16.600 You know, there's a lot of dark humor, these sorts of things.

00:25:19.800 And a friend of mine, Nathan Halberstead, he posted this graph on on Twitter that did numbers, which was showing the percentage of Americans who are homeowners and married by 30.

00:25:31.440 And it was like, what, 60, 70 percent in the 1970s.

00:25:35.360 And it's just completely fallen off a cliff where I think was hovering around like 10 percent today.

00:25:40.220 And I look at stuff like that.

00:25:41.880 I look at a variety of metrics that indicate how bad or how difficult it is for young people to properly matriculate into adulthood.

00:25:49.260 Right. Like a lot of these conventional avenues are being shut off.

00:25:53.100 And so it's like it's no wonder that these these guys, the young people broadly, which would include myself, are kind of edgy.

00:26:01.720 They're they're kind of a little they have a little less regard for convention because ultimately convention has failed them.

00:26:07.100 Ultimately, the orthodox pathways have failed them.

00:26:10.500 So they're going to they're going to, you know, be a little rough around the edges just naturally.

00:26:14.740 It just comes with the territory.

00:26:16.140 But I don't know. Maybe you can drill down a little bit on that.

00:26:18.360 Well, I mean, I'm not going to defend, you know, a lot of the things that were said in that chart are not going to defend it.

00:26:25.040 It was a lot of tasteless content.

00:26:27.660 But I think just generally speaking, the Republican base, especially young people in the Republican base, have been pushed to a point where they just don't care about how they're interpreted anymore.

00:26:40.600 Because if you come out again in support of lower tax rates, they will call you a Nazi at this point.

00:26:47.220 If you come out and you say, I don't want unlimited immigration or I actually just want to stop illegal immigration, they call you a Nazi.

00:26:56.780 So if they call you a Nazi, even when you're being a moderate Republican, if you're saying things that probably 70 percent of Americans can agree on, then what's the point in trying to adhere to those lines?

00:27:08.760 Eventually, eventually, people stop caring again.

00:27:12.120 Eventually, people stop giving a hoot and, you know, they just start, you know, they start spouting off.

00:27:20.360 And I think that's a point where the left has has taken a lot of people in the right, too.

00:27:25.840 And the establishment GOP just doesn't recognize that because at the end of the day, they they don't have to face that they aren't in contact with the left.

00:27:35.020 They don't know what it's like to be in close contact with the left.

00:27:38.560 You know, college students like the ones that I represent in my role as chairman, they are on campus and face harassment from left wing people all the time.

00:27:47.320 But if you are living in a multimillion dollar McMansion in northern Virginia and the only experience that you have with the opposite side of the aisle is in the halls of Capitol Hill, you're not going to get that same experience.

00:28:04.160 And that's a dichotomy.

00:28:05.500 That's sort of a contrast of experiences that's being formed.

00:28:09.060 And until it is resolved, the young base will continue to be at odds with the with the older establishment element of the Republican Party.

00:28:19.200 Yeah, absolutely.

00:28:20.600 We're running against the clock.

00:28:22.480 We have a little more time.

00:28:23.760 I don't know.

00:28:24.040 Do you have any maybe any closing thoughts?

00:28:26.100 Maybe how what sort of reaction you would like to see?

00:28:29.460 Maybe maybe from these GOP apparatchiks?

00:28:33.620 Well, the reaction I want to see is the reaction I saw from J.D. Vance and Brandon Gill.

00:28:39.060 And a whole lot of other people, which is the Democrats never condemned Jay Jones.

00:28:44.400 Nobody has revoked their endorsements for Jay Jones after what he did.

00:28:48.400 If they want to play like that, then we'll play like that, too.

00:28:51.060 We're going to fight fire with fire.

00:28:52.940 And we're not you know, we're not in the in the mood to punch right.

00:28:58.920 We just want to punch left.

00:29:00.880 And that's the only way that we're going to be able to actually not only push the Overton window, but actually prevent the left from having political power.

00:29:09.060 In this country in the way that they did during the Biden administration, because they're angling to get back into it.

00:29:16.620 And the number one thing that they want when they hopefully, you know, they want to reclaim power.

00:29:22.740 They want to defeat Vance or whoever it's going to be in 2028.

00:29:26.320 They want that precedent to be set so that they can really restrict freedom of speech in this country to prevent another Trump or Republican or conservative or right wing presidency from ever happening again.

00:29:40.180 And the number one thing that's going to help them achieve that precedent is by labeling all of their political opponents as Nazis, fascists, whatever.

00:29:49.420 They want to make sure that that we can be as alienated as humanly possible.

00:29:54.140 And the only way that that we're going to prevent that from happening is by getting Republicans who will stand up and and press all the fire to the left.

00:30:02.180 Dude, so good.

00:30:03.940 So thank you for your insights, man.

00:30:05.620 Thanks for hopping on.

00:30:06.500 Where can people find you if they want more?

00:30:09.780 I'm on X at Gabe Guiterini.

00:30:12.360 You'll also find me on on most of the other social media platforms as well.

00:30:16.400 But most of my political commentary and analysis is done on Twitter.

00:30:21.480 Guiterini.

00:30:22.040 OK, I was trying to nail the pronunciation beforehand.

00:30:25.460 So it's it's so Italian.

00:30:27.200 I could like I could taste the wine as I was saying it.

00:30:29.840 It was it was fantastic.

00:30:31.720 Well, thank you so much, man.

00:30:32.900 We'll we'll have you back here sometime soon.

00:30:34.500 So appreciate it, man.

00:30:36.500 Appreciate it, man.

00:30:36.980 Thanks for having me on.

00:30:37.680 Yes, sir.

00:30:38.540 All righty.

00:30:39.420 Well, that was the the college Republican.

00:30:43.320 He has his finger on the pulse.

00:30:44.300 He has his finger on the pulse.

00:30:45.900 And that's why we had to bring him on.

00:30:47.200 I couldn't think of anyone better to break this down.

00:30:50.640 Totally correct.

00:30:51.820 J.D. Vance setting the framing.

00:30:53.560 Correct.

00:30:54.480 He just gets it.

00:30:55.440 He just really he really just does get it.

00:30:57.040 And if you're to the left of J.D.

00:30:58.960 Vance right now, if you're not just that, let's just kind of, you know, take a step back.

00:31:03.380 If you're to the left of the vice president of the United States, what are you doing?

00:31:08.100 What's going on here?

00:31:09.220 You know, you got to take a long, long look in the mirror.

00:31:11.860 So with that, I'm going to wind us down.

00:31:14.440 We are going to raid Devoray Dawkins.

00:31:16.180 He is live and we're going to give him a raid here.

00:31:18.880 Let me get this fired, fired up raid.

00:31:25.140 Let's see if I can get this boom, boom, losing my, my young, my young status here.

00:31:32.680 Okay, we got it.

00:31:33.660 So raid is fired up and we're confirming the raid to Devoray Dawkins.

00:31:37.980 He is a, he's, he's fantastic.

00:31:39.700 He's going to love it.

00:31:40.440 So yeah, thanks for watching.

00:31:42.220 You can follow me on X and Instagram and elsewhere at real tape Brown.

00:31:46.160 Come follow me over there.

00:31:47.040 We'll be back tonight at 8 PM for Tim cast IRL.

00:31:51.220 And it's going to be a great show tonight.

00:31:52.680 You're going to not want you, you are not going to want to miss it.

00:31:55.240 So I'll be there tonight.

00:31:56.380 And with that, thanks for watching.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - October 15, 2025

JD Vance DEFENDS Young Republicans Over Group Chat Leak, Cancel Culture Is OVER ft. Gabe Guidarini

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