The Culture War - Tim Pool - MAGA Civil War EURUPTS Over EPSTEIN Files, Trump Says ENOUGH, BACKS Bondi ft. Kyle Seraphin

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00:00:33.140 Epstein fallout poses a loyalty test.

00:00:36.180 Trump or MAGA?

00:00:39.000 CNN writes,

00:00:40.420 In the days since the Trump admin released a memo about Epstein directly at odds

00:00:43.720 with conspiracy theories pushed by the president and some of his top lieutenants,

00:00:47.700 Trump's movement and most ardent supporters are in revolt.

00:00:50.560 The Justice Department and the FBI released a memo last week

00:00:52.980 concluding there was no evidence that Epstein had a list of powerful men

00:00:55.740 who participated in his alleged underworld of sex trafficking and pedophilia.

00:01:00.320 It is also said that disgraced former financier died by suicide and was not murdered in his New York jail cell.

00:01:06.120 Yet after years of big promises to the president's base,

00:01:08.440 the memo failed to produce a smoking gun,

00:01:10.000 undercutting Trump and his team's own words.

00:01:12.800 And MAGA world isn't happy,

00:01:14.960 pitting the president's closest allies against one another.

00:01:17.980 With Trump defending the findings,

00:01:19.420 situation has set up an unprecedented loyalty test between the president and the movement he created.

00:01:23.720 Now, I want to pause with these conspiracy theories.

00:01:27.680 You can see already CNN front-loading the story, poisoning the well.

00:01:33.040 It is not a conspiracy theory that Epstein was engaged in these behaviors because,

00:01:37.680 well, Pam Bondi said he was.

00:01:40.240 Ghislaine Maxwell was charged for it and so was Epstein.

00:01:44.480 We know that Virginia Giuffre was a witness

00:01:47.980 and made claims about Prince Andrew, who was also accused.

00:01:53.720 None of that is a conspiracy theory.

00:01:56.520 That is a pattern of behavior factually reported in the press far and wide.

00:02:01.800 The question is to what extent?

00:02:04.900 Recently, I should say in recent history,

00:02:08.420 Kash Patel, before entering as FBI director,

00:02:11.600 stated that the FBI has Epstein's black book.

00:02:14.780 Definitively, he stated it.

00:02:16.080 But Bongino wasn't as definitive, though.

00:02:19.260 People tried to drag him.

00:02:20.660 He said, you're not being told the truth about the Epstein story.

00:02:23.000 We got to keep pressure up.

00:02:25.080 Now there seems to be tumult.

00:02:27.300 Who actually has the black book?

00:02:30.040 What's really going on?

00:02:31.740 According to an unsigned, undated memo,

00:02:34.240 which everybody saw in the past week or so,

00:02:36.880 Epstein kept no client list and the trafficking only went to him.

00:02:41.620 It's possible.

00:02:42.840 But you see, there was a butler

00:02:44.340 that had been criminally charged for trying to sell the information on Epstein's clients.

00:02:48.840 There's a photo of Ghislaine Maxwell, a 17-year-old girl, and Prince Andrew.

00:02:54.160 Is the client list just one guy?

00:02:56.560 I find that hard to believe.

00:02:58.540 So what is really going on?

00:03:00.520 Would the FBI have this information?

00:03:02.920 And I don't know, my friends.

00:03:05.980 Are you going to trust the plan, as it were?

00:03:08.940 We're going to be joined by someone who actually worked in the FBI.

00:03:12.360 He knows how this stuff works right now.

00:03:14.420 And the interesting thing is, I trust Kash Patel.

00:03:16.800 I do.

00:03:18.180 But he's inside right now, and there's some questions.

00:03:20.960 So we're going to pull in Kyle Serafin.

00:03:23.660 There's a video where Kash says that the black book for Epstein is in possession,

00:03:30.400 that the FBI's got it.

00:03:32.120 What do you think changed?

00:03:34.180 And does the FBI have this Epstein information?

00:03:37.640 Okay, so it's a complicated question.

00:03:39.320 But at the end of the day, I think people are looking at it in kind of a simple way.

00:03:42.140 And they've been kind of doing this Fox News boomer routine,

00:03:44.900 where they've been kind of talking about truckloads of files, which is absurd.

00:03:48.240 The files would be on a computer, just like everybody would expect a file to be done.

00:03:52.240 They were talking about it being at the Southern District of New York.

00:03:54.700 The FBI holds on to its own evidence.

00:03:56.460 It would bring it to trial, but it's not hanging out at some United States attorney's office.

00:04:01.400 That's not reasonable.

00:04:02.280 So these things all seem kind of nonsensical.

00:04:04.540 To talk about the black book, everybody has this idea.

00:04:07.240 The black book is all the contacts that he would have and all of the nefarious actors.

00:04:10.940 And that would be the list of clients and the people that he was doing shady stuff with.

00:04:14.700 And that may exist.

00:04:15.820 There may be some book.

00:04:16.940 I don't know that Jeffrey Epstein was a guy who ran around with a black book,

00:04:19.380 but that is something that people used to have.

00:04:21.280 The same thing as saying, who's in your Rolodex?

00:04:23.740 However, the list of clients would not be something that Jeffrey Epstein had on a file

00:04:29.660 that was like client list.

00:04:31.020 That's not what you would do.

00:04:32.200 What you would have is an investigator saying these are the people that are implicated

00:04:37.560 in either conspiracy or implicated in child sex trafficking

00:04:40.780 or implicated in the child sexual abuse scandal that was the concern.

00:04:46.100 Now, none of that could be real.

00:04:47.120 It could be absolutely realistic that there is none of that there and this was all hype.

00:04:50.960 But the real scandal, and I think the reason that there's fallout for MAGA people,

00:04:55.160 I think the reason that there's fallout for people that feel like they are betrayed,

00:04:58.280 is that it was an issue in the campaign.

00:05:00.740 Donald Trump brought it up himself.

00:05:01.960 He was on Lex Friedman.

00:05:02.780 He brought it up.

00:05:03.720 Donald Trump Jr. brought it up in front of large crowds talking about how they went after his father,

00:05:08.200 but they didn't go after people that were on the Epstein list, whatever that is.

00:05:11.460 J.D. Vance brought it up on Theo Vaughn.

00:05:14.120 Dan Bongino did whole podcasts about it.

00:05:16.300 Cash Patel did multiple appearances, whether it be on Glenn Beck or with you or others.

00:05:20.080 He went out there and talked about it regularly, repeatedly, and didn't ever explain.

00:05:24.140 The difference is we have a cognitive dissonance of people said one thing

00:05:27.400 and they didn't do anything that showed us that what they said previously was wrong.

00:05:32.660 This morning I mentioned on my own program that one of my proudest moments in the FBI

00:05:36.320 was actually being able to show exculpatory information based on a false allegation

00:05:41.100 that was brought to me that we investigated in all good conscience,

00:05:44.640 and it looked really damning up front.

00:05:46.820 And it was specifically about a guy who supposedly was a child sex offender or was a sex offender

00:05:51.620 and was hanging out with kids in a way that was against the law.

00:05:54.720 He was using a fake name.

00:05:55.800 He was traveling illicitly.

00:05:56.980 He was leaving down to Mexico, and he was hanging out with a bunch of poor kids

00:05:59.660 in the colonias outside of Juarez and bringing them bicycles by the hundreds,

00:06:04.380 which seems super scandalous if you have a guy that is supposedly on the sex offender registry,

00:06:09.880 which he was.

00:06:10.400 But then you find out the details of it.

00:06:12.420 You find out that his conviction was actually really sketchy,

00:06:15.820 and if it was done today, it probably wouldn't have happened,

00:06:17.780 and it was about 15 different items of child sexual material that was in a huge folder

00:06:22.200 that he downloaded from Napster and he may have never even seen.

00:06:24.660 There's no implication that he was actually targeting that, that he wasn't interested in children.

00:06:28.100 It just happened to be on something he downloaded back in the day when file sharing was a thing,

00:06:31.540 and people used to take him down by the megabytes because we didn't have gigabytes back then.

00:06:35.680 Nobody had that kind of bandwidth.

00:06:36.620 So that was the thing, and I was able to show through unsealed court records

00:06:40.920 that this guy probably wasn't the guy that we thought he was,

00:06:43.240 but all of the smoke looked like there would be fire, and the fire was actually not there.

00:06:47.980 This could be the same thing.

00:06:49.240 It could be that they've been talking about this,

00:06:50.980 that he's been kind of a right-wing boogeyman, and we were all wrong about it.

00:06:53.740 I wasn't on the case. I don't know.

00:06:55.520 But I know all the things that look intense.

00:06:57.840 We saw that there was a United States attorney that said that he was Intel's property,

00:07:01.160 that he was working with intelligence agencies, that he was an asset.

00:07:03.660 We know from 2008 filings that the FBI actually did go out and lean on him when he was convicted,

00:07:09.120 and they were able to go get information from him of what value.

00:07:11.720 We don't know because that's not declassified, but we do know that he had contact with the FBI,

00:07:15.600 and so probably got signed up as a CHS.

00:07:17.320 So there's a lot of smoke.

00:07:18.740 The only way that you clear that smoke is a full, transparent mea culpa,

00:07:24.180 we said a bunch of stuff, and we were wrong.

00:07:26.860 And what you saw instead was, and this is why there's all this turmoil,

00:07:29.540 you saw a leaked memo to Axios on a Sunday evening, in my opinion,

00:07:34.000 hiding behind the tragedies that happened down the street from me in Texas.

00:07:37.000 I live in central Texas in the Hill Country, so we just had people washed away with floods.

00:07:40.820 We had torrential rains yesterday, more flooding again,

00:07:43.380 and it looked like they tried to sneak this thing out.

00:07:46.580 And when I was talking to Alex Jones, he called it trying to drop a fart in church.

00:07:49.580 Sometimes you get a silent but dead to the one that gets out there.

00:07:52.080 Sometimes it squeaks, and everybody looks at you.

00:07:53.900 This was a squeak.

00:07:54.680 Everyone looked and went, wait a minute, what?

00:07:56.400 You just going to drop this memo on us that says that there are no co-conspirators.

00:08:00.220 He killed himself.

00:08:01.020 No one else is going to be indicted.

00:08:03.180 And by the way, there's no evidence that he was doing anything wrong.

00:08:06.780 He killed himself for no reason.

00:08:08.820 You're going to have to explain it a little bit better than a two-page unsigned memo,

00:08:12.360 which the deputy attorney general came out and said,

00:08:15.420 Dan Bongino signed on to it, Cash Patel signed on to it,

00:08:18.740 and he, Todd Blanche, signed out on it.

00:08:21.080 Like, there's no daylight between them.

00:08:22.660 That was his official statement on X from his official account

00:08:26.120 representing the government's position with both of their SEALs on it.

00:08:29.860 So then we started seeing the other chaos.

00:08:31.860 Let me try something right now.

00:08:33.920 So what—

00:08:34.660 Do we have—

00:08:36.160 I think we have monitors on.

00:08:38.960 Anyway.

00:08:41.340 This is really hard to do with the Echo.

00:08:43.560 I'm fighting through it.

00:08:45.300 But let's do this.

00:08:48.860 Where was it?

00:08:49.600 Do you think that there is something big behind Epstein?

00:08:55.740 I hear what you're saying.

00:08:56.980 They basically hyped it up.

00:08:58.940 They made this really, really big story.

00:09:01.040 And it may be a big story, but they're not finding the evidence that they thought they were going to have.

00:09:06.900 That's exactly—yeah, that's what I think is the possibility.

00:09:09.700 Now, there's also a possibility that it's a problem.

00:09:12.060 And, you know, the problem is we're not in a position to actually assess that evidence.

00:09:15.580 And for me, the scandal is actually not Epstein specifically, although the idea of letting child sex traffickers get away with it is abhorrent to me.

00:09:22.660 I'm a father, and so that makes me want to puke.

00:09:25.400 It's something that I think Americans on the left and the right are going to get on.

00:09:28.460 I think the folks that are in the left-wing media that are taking this up are seeing an opportunity to drive a wedge between folks, so that's awful.

00:09:34.180 But, listen, for me, this is the same sort of unforced error that the Biden administration withdrawal from Afghanistan was.

00:09:40.380 Like, no one made you do it.

00:09:41.380 No one made you come out and message it poorly.

00:09:43.760 There was a way to do it right.

00:09:45.020 They got either bad information or it was being—you know, some subterfuge was happening.

00:09:49.560 We're talking about a group of people from the FBI that are in mid-level management that are giving the worst advice possible and want to see Kash Patel and Dan Bongino fail.

00:09:57.020 That is their mission set.

00:09:58.280 They want to continue the status quo.

00:09:59.980 That's what a quote-unquote deep state does.

00:10:01.580 That's what an administrative state will do. 0.96

00:10:04.080 Everything we hear about is that Dan Bongino is miserable there because these people keep telling him that if he doesn't do everything that they want and sign off on all the programs and stay in the office late hours, that New York is going to explode or California is going to have a bioattack or some other crazy thing.

00:10:17.200 Cyberattack will take down the grid. 0.98

00:10:18.620 So he's the man standing there in the gap.

00:10:20.660 In reality, at some point, he'll realize that they're just hammering him with the same stuff they do to agents at Quantico.

00:10:26.800 It's this tactic of just getting cortisol overload and stressing you out to the point where you make bad decisions.

00:10:32.060 But it doesn't take away from the fact that there was a right decision, which was either coming out in full transparency.

00:10:37.760 They could have just not talked about it for a while and said, we're still working on it.

00:10:40.500 We haven't heard anything about the J6 pipe bomber.

00:10:42.180 We haven't heard anything about the cocaine case, the Dobbs leaker, all the other things they said we were going to get transparency on haven't materialized either.

00:10:47.980 So they didn't have to drop it this way.

00:10:50.220 That's probably not their best move.

00:10:52.240 But the big real problem is that Pam Bondi went out and said, there is this material.

00:10:56.800 It does exist, that there is evidence of something horrific.

00:10:59.920 We had Alina Haba say the same thing.

00:11:02.440 And again, these guys who were not in the government at the time said it.

00:11:05.460 What you also will, for evidence, those two ladies on the DOJ side have been hyping this up. 1.00

00:11:10.460 What you've actually seen is an undersell from Cash Patel and Dan Bongino over the last, let's say, three months.

00:11:15.740 They've gone out on Fox, looked like they were sitting on kind of like thumbtacks, like really uncomfortably trying to kind of let this thing out slowly saying, hey, listen, by the way, like he didn't kill himself.

00:11:25.100 And everyone went like, wait, wait, what?

00:11:27.260 That may be the case.

00:11:28.200 It may be 100% accurate, but then you've got this other undermining thing where the video came out the other day and it was edited in Adobe Premiere and it was spliced together for multiple takes.

00:11:37.720 And, you know, there's a possibility of a timeline sync and some things like that.

00:11:40.960 And you go like, this is not how you look, transparent and genuine and honest.

00:11:45.800 It's not the way that you do a rollout where you go out and you show all your cards, which is what needed to happen for people to feel like if you're going to change it 100%, if you're going to do a 360 from what you said last year,

00:11:56.060 you have to actually say I was wrong and I'm totally comfortable with knowing that I did it wrong.

00:12:03.140 Like I said, when I was in the Bureau and I did that, it was a really relieving moment because nobody wants to go after somebody who's innocent.

00:12:08.620 Nobody wants to go out and make a claim and then have to, you know, retract it.

00:12:12.460 But it's better to retract it than to lie about it and try to cover it up.

00:12:15.660 And I think they tried to get away with the best of both worlds, which was that maybe if we say it quietly, nobody will hear us.

00:12:21.320 Why not just lie better?

00:12:22.220 The lies have been poor.

00:12:28.700 It's a jumbled mess.

00:12:30.440 They could have come out.

00:12:32.080 Dan Bongino could have winked on camera and done nothing else.

00:12:35.260 And this story would not be happening.

00:12:38.500 Yeah, all true.

00:12:39.580 No, this is like the worst possible outcome.

00:12:42.080 Mike Howell, who's over at the Oversight Project, they're a spinoff from Heritage Foundation.

00:12:46.400 He said if you were going to teach a class on the worst possible way to do a government rollout of information, this would be one of the top lessons on not how to do it.

00:12:56.220 You did it with nobody signing it, so nobody put their name to it.

00:12:59.500 So you've got no sort of credibility behind the original memo.

00:13:02.160 Then it turns out that memo is legit.

00:13:04.240 Because if you remember, the Sunday question was all the MAGA influencer types were out there going like, well, it's coming from Axios.

00:13:09.180 We don't trust Axios, and rightly so.

00:13:11.640 Axios is a mouthpiece for a couple things.

00:13:14.000 One, people on the political left and sort of the murky, swampy administrative state, but it's also a mouthpiece for the intelligence community, which means they are favorable to doing a leak, and they will take that access, and they're happy to be the exclusive provider of this.

00:13:27.720 And something that people are not going to know because if you don't – well, they weren't part of this conversation.

00:13:32.760 But I had a private conversation with Kash Patel before he was sworn in.

00:13:35.380 And one of his big concerns was media leaks, which is something that plagued Ray's administration, was an issue for the last DOJ and the last FBI, mostly because they were doing things that were nefarious and unseemly.

00:13:48.180 And a longtime retired FBI agent and a whistleblower attorney brought the following information to Kash's awareness, which I guess he wasn't aware of.

00:13:56.660 It makes sense.

00:13:57.580 He said leaks to the media are a tool of the FBI director.

00:14:02.260 They've been going back at longest – probably, you know, since before 9-11, but definitely in the post-9-11 world.

00:14:07.980 Mueller used them effectively.

00:14:09.520 Comey used them effectively.

00:14:11.060 McCabe did as well when he was in the interim role.

00:14:13.680 And, of course, Chris Ray did as well.

00:14:15.220 So they could go out, and you can share and turn the narrative.

00:14:18.220 Not only do you choose the information you're going to share and when you're going to share it and how you're going to share it, but you also choose the outlet that you're going to go to.

00:14:25.160 And if you go to a Newsweek, it's going to hit differently than if you go to a Fox News or if you go to an independent media source.

00:14:31.900 And if you go to Axios, it has a certain hit.

00:14:34.140 And so he got – I think they made a strategic move.

00:14:37.000 I just think it was the worst possible one.

00:14:38.960 So whoever is advising them – and that fits with my theory that the folks that are inside the bureau that want to see bad outcomes, they're cheering right now.

00:14:46.260 Because you're never going to hear the advisors who briefed Kash or Dan.

00:14:49.160 You're never going to hear those people's names.

00:14:51.060 They're not going to be someone that you're aware of.

00:14:52.540 But maybe I might hear about them from people inside the bureau that reach out and say, hey, by the way, this is the person that was the last one to touch this.

00:14:58.920 But other than that, it's not going to be transparent.

00:15:02.100 The people who are going to be left with egg on their face, the two guys that are at the top of the agency, and used to be only one person would get it.

00:15:08.360 It used to be just Chris Ray.

00:15:09.280 Like most people don't know who Paula Bate was, and they don't know who David Bowditch was, the previous deputy directors.

00:15:13.920 These are not people that are in their sphere because the deputy director is kind of a low-key role that runs the bureau, executes the policy,

00:15:21.520 and the director is the one that's kind of the PR face.

00:15:26.140 There was another story, and that's the Biden auto-pand pardons.

00:15:30.940 So he didn't sign off on these.

00:15:32.800 He had a general meeting.

00:15:34.440 Someone claims he offered these pardons.

00:15:37.480 You know, there's a question of how would the FBI handle something.

00:15:40.620 If someone is pardoned, can you guys go after them?

00:15:43.660 And then I'm just curious your general thoughts on the pardons themselves, if they're legit, and what should be done.

00:15:48.740 So this is a novel problem, right?

00:15:51.320 So you're using an executive power that probably cannot be delegated, although I guess there's some question on whether or not you can delegate that under Article 2.

00:15:58.060 Can you delegate it to a subordinate in the same way?

00:16:00.660 You know, law enforcement authorities are delegated to the attorney general.

00:16:03.100 The ability to either investigate and or prosecute are all delegated to the FBI and so on and so forth.

00:16:07.960 So the way that it would play out is an FBI director would decide, you know, it would obviously probably be the deputy and then somebody who's actually running, let's say, criminal investigation, counterterrorism investigations.

00:16:17.820 It would be below that.

00:16:19.200 They would decide we are going to do an investigation to fill in the blank person for the following allegations.

00:16:23.660 They have to be, you know, for criminal aspects, it has to be an allegation that some federal crime took place and that this person is the alleged perpetrator of it.

00:16:31.080 And they would investigate it.

00:16:32.480 You can investigate anybody for anything as long as you have that authorized purpose.

00:16:36.120 There are different levels of FBI investigations.

00:16:38.200 They go from preliminary to full.

00:16:39.700 They have a thing called an assessment, which is another animal.

00:16:42.140 But at the end of the day, allegation or information that a federal crime took place is good enough for you to open that investigation and sign off and you get the resource to go along with it.

00:16:49.380 So the investigation is easy.

00:16:51.040 No problem.

00:16:51.600 You can investigate anybody even if they've been pardoned.

00:16:54.460 Then comes the questions whether or not you can indict them.

00:16:57.120 That's going to be a question of political will more than anything else.

00:16:59.340 You bring it over to DOJ and somebody, either a United States attorney or a subordinate there, what's called an assistant United States attorney, a line prosecutor, will accept it and say, yeah, I am willing to prosecute this case.

00:17:09.940 They're going to have a whole bunch of different questions.

00:17:12.180 There's a process of vetting out the person that is called the subject through what's called the SIM, the sensitive investigative matter.

00:17:17.900 So they've got all these policies that will come into play.

00:17:19.840 But at the end of the day, if they want to do it, yes, they could totally do that.

00:17:23.020 Then they could bring that information in front of a grand jury and get the indictment.

00:17:26.580 The grand jury is going to say, yes, we believe that there's probable cause to believe that this person committed this federal crime.

00:17:32.420 And so we're going to indict them.

00:17:33.960 And they're either going to surrender themselves or there's going to be an arrest warrant issued.

00:17:36.920 Take your pick.

00:17:37.540 And then they go forward.

00:17:38.840 And then comes the question on whether or not that indictment can stand and whether or not that prosecution can continue.

00:17:43.880 And that would happen from the defense end.

00:17:45.700 They would raise motions saying, hey, by the way, this person was already pardoned.

00:17:48.580 And then you probably have not a question of whether or not the law was broken.

00:17:53.500 You'd have a question of the procedures that would go, as far as I understand it, would go to the appeals courts.

00:17:58.000 And they would actually question whether or not the law was followed.

00:18:00.780 And that's where you start having these constitutional issues.

00:18:02.640 Maybe even the Supreme Court probably would have to weigh in on, can you delegate the power of pardon to a subordinate?

00:18:09.720 And if the president's not aware of it, and can you prove that he was aware of it or that he wasn't or that he was cognizant or not, that might come into play then.

00:18:17.520 So they could march it forward and they could push that moment to a crisis where you would find out whether or not they could ever get away with this thing again.

00:18:24.120 That might be a good move.

00:18:25.360 Find a really good example of someone who's absolutely committed a crime and then push forward against them, against an auto pen pardon, and really put it to the test.

00:18:34.840 And then you're going to basically create precedent that's going to invalidate or substantiate the validity of that pardon.

00:18:41.900 I think it's a great option.

00:18:43.100 I think it's going to – we'll see.

00:18:45.020 We'll see.

00:18:45.440 Stephen Miller seems aggressive on that kind of stuff.

00:18:47.420 It seems like he would advise that that's the way to go get it done.

00:18:50.320 And I think the MAGA base in general is going to want to see that because we can't have unnamed bureaucrats who no one's ever going to hold accountable and didn't get voted in.

00:19:00.340 We can't have those people deciding whether or not American citizens or criminal actors are able to go free in this country.

00:19:07.540 That seems completely absurd.

00:19:09.360 It's totally anti-American.

00:19:10.760 You'd think the left would want that as well because it could be abused on either side. 0.94

00:19:14.080 It looks like from the New York Times, some staffer told some aides, Biden approved this, use the auto pen.

00:19:22.580 It's not even that it's delegated.

00:19:24.520 We don't even know Biden ordered it.

00:19:26.100 Right.

00:19:27.780 Again, and so then the question is because now you're coming into an area of executive privilege too.

00:19:32.580 So you've got some other concerns in there.

00:19:34.040 I could see why this would be dicey only because you can't pull certain records.

00:19:38.200 The judiciary doesn't have the ability to order it.

00:19:39.940 But we're now talking about a new administration that might want to undermine the previous administration and they theoretically could actually offer it out.

00:19:47.180 In fact, it kind of goes along with what Biden was doing where they were going after Trump, right, and he was the former chief executive.

00:19:54.000 Is it great for America?

00:19:55.360 I think at the end of the day, it starts getting kind of banana republically when you start having one executive supplant the other and then going after him.

00:20:02.400 But they've already started down this path.

00:20:04.100 I don't think we can avoid the fact that some wrongs were done.

00:20:07.400 They probably should be righted.

00:20:09.000 I don't think regular people, including now the left-wing media, they're selling books on it.

00:20:13.180 Jake Tapper's done a whole book tour.

00:20:14.940 They all kind of realize that the guy that was occupying the White House for the last four years wasn't sentient.

00:20:20.240 My buddy Steve friend calls him the human Roomba.

00:20:22.940 And once you see him on stage towards the end of that four years where he's just kind of like doing 30-degree turns and looking for the dock station, it kind of lines up with what he looks like and how he operated.

00:20:32.920 So was that guy really making any decisions at all?

00:20:35.500 And can we adjudicate it?

00:20:37.400 Like I said, I think if the executive is on board, the current one, I think he can.

00:20:41.420 And I think we probably need to because we can't have it happen again, not if America wants to continue and have legitimacy.

00:20:47.340 Maybe ban auto pen. 0.87

00:20:51.240 What was that?

00:20:52.160 Ban auto pen.

00:20:53.600 I hate it.

00:20:54.500 Yeah, I don't like that at all.

00:20:55.660 Like really?

00:20:56.400 Is that something that is totally necessary?

00:20:58.180 Also, I didn't realize that. 1.00

00:20:59.220 And who knows what we pay for these stupid things. 0.99

00:21:01.180 Look, DocuSign is feasible. 0.99

00:21:03.280 Can we not really just print things off and have a president actually sign them?

00:21:07.220 Can we not do some version of a DocuSign?

00:21:09.020 When you're in the law enforcement realm, where I was at the FBI, if you want to sign off on and certify a document, so you'd certify your time card, you'd certify statements you made, they're evidentiary, they are testimonial, and they hold the full weight of you actually doing it.

00:21:24.640 What you would do is you would insert a card, which has your name, and it's called a cat card, I think, when you're in the DOD.

00:21:32.200 We had a different name for it, but it's a very similar type of thing.

00:21:34.640 Sax badge is what it was called.

00:21:35.680 You'd push it into a card reader that would authenticate that it was you, and then you would have like a code that you would authenticate who you were, and it would automatically sign things digitally.

00:21:44.720 The same way that you've signed real estate documents and everybody else has signed contracts or you sign with advertisers.

00:21:50.240 Americans have gone digital.

00:21:51.540 We accept that that's a thing.

00:21:53.140 Why we have a machine that has a mechanized arm that duplicates your signature with a physical wet signature is beyond me.

00:22:00.300 It doesn't happen for all kinds of other things, subpoenas and legal process.

00:22:04.860 You can swear out on a Zoom call to a judge now and have somebody have their freedom taken.

00:22:09.040 Why we need a mechanical arm signing the president's signature is really bizarre.

00:22:13.660 It seems like a throwback.

00:22:14.660 And when you see the machine, it looks like they made them probably in the 60s or 70s.

00:22:17.800 So why we're still doing that?

00:22:20.620 Probably because they cost a lot of money and somebody gets a maintenance contract.

00:22:23.860 Indeed.

00:22:24.040 Indeed.

00:22:24.540 Well, I apologize for the echo, but where can people find more from you?

00:22:29.480 People can find me on Rumble right now.

00:22:31.180 It's rumble.com slash Kyle Serafin, or they can find me on X if you want to mix it up and say things that are nice or mean.

00:22:36.540 I'll do it too.

00:22:37.100 It's at Kyle Serafin.

00:22:38.240 It's always my name.

00:22:39.000 Easy to find me there.

00:22:39.820 Same thing on YouTube.

00:22:40.900 Right on.

00:22:41.200 Thanks for hanging out, man.

00:22:42.120 We'll see you next time.

00:22:43.280 Thanks, Tim.

00:22:43.860 We'll get this one fixed.

00:22:44.560 Thanks, too.

00:22:48.700 All right.

00:22:49.260 So we had an echo problem, and now the echo problem is gone.

00:22:55.320 So I'll grab some of your guys' rumble rants while we're here.

00:22:59.900 And, you know, looks like we only got a couple.

00:23:02.180 We only got a couple.

00:23:04.220 Copium Poppy says, Tim should start singing with the echo on.

00:23:07.300 So here's the thing.

00:23:08.160 The echo delay at the right modulation is actually a weapon.

00:23:14.320 So they do this.

00:23:16.400 They have the capability with protests and what's called an LRAD.

00:23:20.620 This is the brief thing I mentioned at the beginning.

00:23:22.780 The long-range acoustic device.

00:23:24.680 One of the tactics they've used, it's not very common, but it's possible.

00:23:29.400 They will capture the sound of the protests and then delay it by a half second and repeat it.

00:23:34.840 And it creates, it makes it very difficult for you to talk.

00:23:37.840 When you talk, you're hearing yourself in your own head.

00:23:40.000 When we have monitors, so like right now when I'm talking, my headphones are playing back my own voice to me real time with no delay.

00:23:47.140 So I can hear myself.

00:23:48.760 It's also how singers do it.

00:23:49.920 They wear the earpiece when they're singing.

00:23:51.000 They can hear their own voice because otherwise too loud.

00:23:53.440 By creating a delay, your brain is hearing back itself, causing you to stutter.

00:23:58.440 And it becomes very difficult to speak.

00:24:00.760 And you've got to focus really hard on what you're saying while ignoring yourself saying something out of sync with what you're saying.

00:24:07.220 So it's actually a mentally disruptive thing.

00:24:10.740 But you guys don't, you've probably experienced before with like monitors and feedback.

00:24:14.420 All right.

00:24:15.420 Nostick Revival says DOJ Bondi blocked HHS RFK Jr. from taking fluoride out of the water nationally.

00:24:22.140 I had seen something like that.

00:24:23.680 I haven't confirmed it yet, but that's crazy.

00:24:26.360 Amtru says doesn't matter if the pardons are null because the DOJ won't prosecute anyone.

00:24:30.500 Watch.

00:24:31.880 Yup.

00:24:34.040 Dude, I don't even know anymore.

00:24:36.260 With the Epstein stuff, there's a lot I wanted to say to Kyle and actually ask him to follow up on.

00:24:41.320 But because of the echo, we weren't able to get there.

00:24:43.240 I think he actually makes a lot of really great points.

00:24:45.380 It's not, it's a middle ground.

00:24:47.560 And we're not getting that middle ground.

00:24:49.180 And that middle ground is the Epstein stuff is really bad.

00:24:51.960 It's not, it's not as bad as everyone assumed it was going to be.

00:24:54.740 That is, yeah, he was trafficking.

00:24:56.780 There's probably some people involved.

00:24:58.400 It's probably not going to be this massive list of hundreds of world leaders, but he 0.58

00:25:03.860 was a diddler and they were bringing in underage girls.

00:25:06.660 And there are some people who are probably implicated.

00:25:09.460 That is, they hyped up this thing so much that when they get in, I do think they're covering

00:25:15.660 up for people, and I'm not saying this theory is correct.

00:25:17.980 I'm saying it's a, it's a, it's a, it's plausible that the reality is if they did drop the client

00:25:24.240 list, it's going to be a dozen people, maybe like Prince Andrew.

00:25:27.740 And then they're going to be like, no one's going to be satisfied by this.

00:25:31.460 They're going to call it a coverup no matter what we do.

00:25:33.780 It still sounds to me that if that were the case, Trump's using the blackmail.

00:25:38.080 So we will see, but I'm going to wrap it up there.

00:25:40.380 My friends, we're going to get you ready for a raid on our good friend, Russell Brand,

00:25:44.420 who is gearing up.

00:25:45.500 He is actually, I believe it might be live now.

00:25:48.000 So we'll send that raid on its way.

00:25:49.920 My friends, make sure you go timcast.com, join, join timcast.com's discord.

00:25:55.240 You'll get access to these live events.

00:25:58.400 We do, we have 30 designated tickets for our members, plus a members only after show.

00:26:04.560 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:26:05.660 Now, as for the event itself, we actually are going to have, if you show up on the spot

00:26:10.360 and tickets are available, you can come in because we're trying to figure out how we can

00:26:13.620 get more liberals to come up and join these debates.

00:26:16.180 And so we did last time and it was really, really great.

00:26:18.960 We're going to encourage that this time around as well. 0.80

00:26:21.860 So it will be silly.

00:26:23.260 But the point of the event is, although politics can be contentious, we're wanting it to be

00:26:27.940 laugh, like a laugh, right?

00:26:29.700 You know, like have fun, joke.

00:26:32.960 Everybody disagrees, but we leave laughing, though we disagree.

00:26:36.980 That's the hope.

00:26:37.980 I hope we get there.

00:26:39.480 Follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast, my friends.

00:26:41.520 Stay tuned.

00:26:42.100 We got more coming up 8 p.m. tonight at TimCast IRL.

00:26:44.740 Thanks for hanging out and we'll see you all then.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - July 14, 2025

MAGA Civil War EURUPTS Over EPSTEIN Files, Trump Says ENOUGH, BACKS Bondi ft. Kyle Seraphin

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