MAGA CIVIL WAR In Full Swing, Trump, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones And THE TRUTH
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On today's show, we have a special guest on the show, Alex Blumberg. Alex is a former White House correspondent for the New York Times and the host of the show "Nice Vice" where he covers the intersection of race, culture and politics. In this episode, Alex talks about how he got his start in the business, how he became a reporter, and what it's like being a reporter in the corporate world.
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Talk about the ultimate black pill, my friends.
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We're getting story after story about the mega civil war.
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Megyn Kelly is slamming Trump. She's going after Fox News.
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You know, on YouTube, I've long criticized these channels, actually defended, of all people, Hassan Piker.
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And the reason why criticizing liberals but actually defending Hassan is because Hassan's channel actually is composed of a bunch of different news stories.
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Not that I think he's right about these things or that I think he's a good person or anything like that.
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But when you look at the show he does, he talks about various stories in the news.
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Sometimes he says shocking and inflammatory things.
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But then there are other liberals that just every single post is Trump is bad.
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It's like the only thing unifying people these days, they don't like Donald Trump.
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Several years ago, a decade ago, I worked for the corporate media.
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I worked for an ABC News Univision joint venture at an ABC News badge.
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And I worked in the ABC News building in New York City.
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Got to go on the elevator with Whoopi Goldberg.
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So I was like, it's Guinan. I think she's kind of off a rocker for the most part. But hey, you know, always going to love Guinan and Star Trek The Next Generation. While working there, I, you know, I saw this shift in people's worldviews that didn't quite make a lot of sense.
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they had brought me on to be nice vice they called it nice vice they said we like that you travel
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the world and cover on the ground stories and for this we would like to hire you and pay you a large
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sum of money and i said that sounds great let me do my thing and i did and it's funny because while
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working there i was the only one who actually got views on content my content was largely apolitical
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uh went to uh fukushima fukushima in japan uh to check on the aftermath of the earthquake
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several years on uh i had gone back to brazil and uh you know several other places went to new
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zealand and i did these interviews and things like that and something started changing about
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eight months in people all of a sudden they started becoming woke and my attitude largely
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was hey man look i don't really care about your politics right i was a big bernie guy so this is
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2015, 16. And I really care for the woke stuff where they're like talking about Marxism. I was
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just like, listen, this guy's been consistent for a long time. And I respect that he's fighting for
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the working class, closed borders. He said, Open Brothers is a Koch Brothers proposal.
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And I said, here, here. But when it came to doing political content, I said, no, not really. I don't
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really care about that stuff. I did not have strong political opinions. I didn't come out. I
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didn't support Trump or anybody like that. I did not. I voted for Obama in 2008. Yet it was it
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was interesting. They had a forum event, the black and brown forum where they were going to talk to
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presidential candidates, including I believe Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton to be there.
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And I found out about it not through the chain of command, even though I effectively reported
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straight to the president of the company and was one of their senior talents. Things changed at
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the company. And they brought in outside talent to be up on the panel for this black and brown
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forum. Certainly, I'm not black. I'm only a tinge yellow, I guess. And I found out that they had
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brought an outside talent. So they had Alicia Menendez, you know, who is now MS now and a few
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other people. And I'm on good terms with all these people. Again, I was this is this is pre Trump.
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I wasn't a Trump supporter. I wasn't voting or supporting anybody. I was making strong political
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statements. It was largely just general. Like I had been fairly critical of the police during
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Occupy Wall Street for free speech issues, but not super political on any grounds or anything
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like that. So I go to the president and I asked him, why was it that they had brought an outside
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talent? And he says, well, I mean, you look too white. And I was like, I'm second generation
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mixed race. Like my family understands a lot of this stuff. You don't owe me any favors. I don't
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got to go on your show. I'm just, you know, tell me where to stand and I'll stand there. Right.
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Despite the fact that I was the only one getting views, that the content I was producing was
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We covered the California drought, very generic stuff.
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They basically iced me out for looking too white multiple times.
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And then when I actually had complaints about that and said that I'm mixed race, they called
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I had done coverage of police stuff in Brazil, had discussed about potentially going to like
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So I found this to be shocking and strange and tried quitting the company.
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The new editor in chief they brought in, his Twitter profile was his banner photo was a
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I still did not go to these people and say, like, y'all are crazy or anything like that.
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you know what I mean? I did not complain that they're making trans kids videos or anything
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like that. The videos I was doing was on free speech, tech, censorship, and on the ground
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reporting. And we were getting like 50 to 100k views on these videos. And the president told me
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you're the only one who actually gets views. And I'm like, well, you know, I guess I got my finger
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on the pulse. And for some reason, they still iced me out from everything. But whatever, I didn't
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care. I was like, hey, look, you pay me, you know, it's a job, a job is a job. But after about a year
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of this, I said, I don't know why I'm here. Okay. Like if you don't want to use me for any of these
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projects, what am I doing? They told me to stick around. They said, uh, stick around.
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So what ends up happening is there's nothing for me to do. They're not interested in what I
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produced. The narrative completely shifted towards woke. And so when I tried leaving and they told
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me not to, a few months later, I get a call and I'm thinking this is going to be it. They're going
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to fire me. They're going to, they're going to agree to release me from contract. Instead,
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they gave me $40,000. I just did not understand. They were like, you're getting a bonus into your
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bank account. I was like, I am? I was like, a bonus from what? We're not making money.
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They gave me a bonus. I genuinely, like if they, if they literally never asked me to do anything,
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I just don't even understand. So ultimately then when August came around, I get the call and
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they're like, we're not going to be repping your contract. And I was like, Hey, I'll get it. I was
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like, cause I don't even know what you want me to be doing at this point, but I appreciate the money.
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things changed around this time it was it was very very weird and I tell you this story because
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of the change that we are seeing now and how things are going I'm not going to bend the knee
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I'm not going to join the woke I was never going to accept it I think they knew this
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and so what ends up happening is I make my own YouTube channel and Donald Trump goes on TV and
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says did you see what happened last night in Sweden and I saw this thought it was interesting
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went viral. Liberals were mocking Trump, saying nothing happened in Sweden last night. And I said,
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well, what is that all about? Well, Trump wasn't talking about something in Sweden the night
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before. He was talking about a news report on Fox News about Sweden. And so I said, okay,
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that's fun. And I saw a post from Paul Joseph Watson. He said he was offering $2,000 to any
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journalist brave enough to spend the night in Malma, Sweden. And me being somewhat like oblivious
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to the culture war stuff that had been bumbling up. I just, I tweeted at him or something. I was
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like, I'll do it. And he DMs me and he was like, oh, well, I mean, I was kind of just taking the
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piss. But he's like, if you, I was like, I got a GoFundMe set up to raise money to go and do this
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reporting. And he was like, okay, like, sure. And I had had, I think, like 70 or 80. No, I might
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have had like 120,000 followers at the time. I can't remember. And he was like, sure, I'll donate
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to your GoFundMe. And he did. And then he announced to all the journalists that he had
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satisfy the terms of his statement or whatever. So all of a sudden I get these messages from
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journalists that I knew who worked at Vice and Fusion. And they said, don't do it.
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And I'm like, don't do what? And they're like, don't go to Sweden and cover this story.
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And I'm just like, what do you mean? Like, this is what I do. This is what I've always done. I go
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on the ground. I film stuff. And they're like, yeah, but Trump's lying. And I said, yeah, I think
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so. So let me expose that. And they're like, no, don't do it. No joke. Like there's like three or
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four different journalists who had worked at Vice and a couple of fusion DMing me on Twitter at the
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time being like, don't report this story. And I was like, I'm genuinely confused. You're saying
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Trump is lying. I'm saying, OK, I'm going to go cover this and prove that he's lying. One of them
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said, donate the money to a pro Muslim charity instead. And I was like, yeah, that's fraud.
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that's illegal, dude. I was like, I raised money to do this. I have to do it. I can't just take
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that money for something else. And so I went. And it was interesting because when I went there,
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I interviewed a Green Party politician. And he said, yeah, we have crime. Crime's increased. It
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is bad, but it's not as bad as people think. I said, fascinating. And I got praise. Huffington
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Post did a good job. The weirdest thing imaginable, the hyper-tribalism, when I was simply just like,
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Tell me what's happening. My friends, we are in a ongoing psychopathic culture war and the result of which is tribalism and anger at the other, not for what makes sense politically, policy wise or for what is actually happening.
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But it's because there are groups that view the other as enemy. And part of this is it's born from our tribal. I believe it's born largely from the Democrat Republican conflict. And where we are now is a crossroads, a shift. Something interesting is occurring. I don't know exactly what the end result is going to be, but I'll tell you why I make I tell you these stories and where we're at now.
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maga exiles flock to support group citing trump lies indeed the daily beast and many others have
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been reporting like crazy that maga is fracturing from trump the daily beast has repeatedly claimed
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that i was calling saying trump would be humiliated and turning on him which doesn't
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that sound a little strong for someone like me i don't come out and harshly attack in that way
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eh, Candace Owens, I did. I did apologize for that, but it didn't matter. Nobody cares, right?
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So where we are today is something interesting. Once again, we are seeing something very similar
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to what I witnessed in, you know, 2015 or 16. Many people are breaking from Trump. They're
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calling him a mad king. They're calling him demonic. And it's just not, it's nonsensical.
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I'm sorry it is. I'm not going to change my opinion because people send mean tweets or
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comments on social media. I'm not going to change my opinion because people will unfollow me and
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then call me a shill or yell at me for, they claim taking money from Russia, which I never did,
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or having secret meetings with Netanyahu, which was publicly known about and I talked about.
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It's all tribal insanity. I've never played these games and I won't play these games.
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What matters to me is what is true and what makes the most sense. But what we're seeing right now
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is online, people are figuring out who butters their bread. And when you take a look at YouTube,
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I think there's something very fascinating in that it's been reported that right-wing
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media is suffering a major decline, that they're seeing a drop-off in their ratings, and that's
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For us, in winter, Timcast IRL was getting between 50,000 and 80,000 concurrent viewers,
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Well, in the same period in the previous election cycle, we were doing about 27,000, 28,000.
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So it looks like moderate growth in the long run, but it is down from where it was over
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the past couple of years, especially the peak in 2020.
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And then everything kind of normalized out the next year, and we averaged around like
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Things pick up once we get into a primary season, and people figure out where things
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Now, what I will say is this civil war looks similar to what happened with Ron DeSantis.
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When Donald Trump was fading from the limelight, and he was after 2021, Ron DeSantis was
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ascendant. And many people came out in support of Ron DeSantis. This sparked a rift. The Daily
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Wire, of course, was very pro-DeSantis, as was I. I said, I don't know that Trump's coming back.
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We may be on the back end of the Trump era. And DeSantis has had the professionalism
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in Florida. And I think he would make a great president. Unfortunately, when it came time to
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run out that campaign, he did a pretty bad job of it. And Trump came back with a vengeance.
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But at the time, everybody was fighting. They were saying, you know, you anti-Trump people,
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the DeSantis people were attacking the Trump people. Well, then Trump came, Trump won,
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and here we are now. But many of these dire Trump people are not breaking from him in ways that I
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would say largely does not make sense. Now, to be fair, Trump has recently come out attacking
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Tucker, Candace, Alex Jones. So I can understand why they're pushing against him. But I have also
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seen a coordinated effort from social media accounts targeting myself as well. They want me
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to come out and just be overtly anti-Trump. Guys, I can be critical of Trump for a lot of reasons.
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I can tell you that I would not have voted for this war. I don't support the war with around
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all of these things. But I have never been, nor will I be, someone who spins on a dime,
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changes my opinion because people are yelling at me on the internet. I've never done it,
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and I'm not going to do it now. There are certain issues where I have found reasoned arguments and
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agreed with them and said, you know what, maybe I was wrong about that. But while I may be critical
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of Trump for a lot of reasons, I'm not going to come out and call him the mad king or a demon
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and agree with these people. There's going off on him. Truth matters. And what is true is ultimately
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what will guide me. And this is the ultimate black pill, my friends. It seems like what we
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are seeing is, I don't know, people are just ditching Trump because, well, let me put it like
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this. My honest opinion, viewership is down, but viewership for anti-Trump content has been up and
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been consistent for a long time. Now that we got the war with Iran, criticisms of Israel, the death
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of Charlie Kirk, I will tell you this. When I mentioned that viewership for the right is down,
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it's not the same for the leftists and the liberals who have been attacking Trump.
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I mentioned the praise for Hassan, how he talks about a plethora of news. By all means,
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you can criticize his opinions on those things. That was always allowed. But I respect that he's
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talking about the news in general. Whereas most of the liberal podcasters and commentators
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only talk about Trump. And here's the truth. They still get millions of views. And the people who
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are talking about nuance, defending Trump or otherwise, we're getting less and less viewership.
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So now you can see where Candace Owens is at. And a really good example of this would be like,
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we get Candace fans who will spam the chat in Timcast IRL saying, ha ha ha ha, look at you,
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you're only getting 20,000 concurrence on YouTube. Oh, how the mighty have fallen, like insulting me
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as if my motivation has been the viewership. Simultaneously, they'll post on X, and in the
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comments, Tim only cares about clicks and views. Suppose if that was the case, I would just agree
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with whatever Candace Owens was saying. But I think truth matters. And where we are now is,
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well, I think where we've always been is largely for people, truth just never mattered.
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You take a look at my story from Fusion and Vice, and you can see that truth wasn't the issue. The
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issue was being an avatar for the lowest common denominator. And so this is a post that I made
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on X earlier today, where I highlight, there is the job of the influencer to be the avatar
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of a tribal sect. Now, of course, I have talked about that on this show and in Tim Castile quite
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a bit. The way it works is this. Let's say, oh, you know what? There was that woman who talked
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about private equity who got massively popular for a brief period and still maintains a decent
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audience. But she was top of the world. I believe it was Tiffany Cianci, shout out. She called out
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this practice that was happening with some private equity firms where they were gutting companies and
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destroying them to make money. This resulted in massive support. She genuinely believes these
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things. She's genuinely concerned about it. And that was always allowed. And she got a big following
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when the zeitgeist found her. But as she maintains that view and that presence, the audience is
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largely shifted in other areas, notably Israel. So she's not as prominent now as she was at that
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one moment. This is the job of the influencer. I would describe this as an organic moment.
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Someone who spoke truth at the right time and captured an audience. Nick Shirley did the same
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thing in December with the Minnesota fraud stuff. And while he's certainly very prominent and doing
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well, the conversation isn't the same around Nick Shirley. I had a similar moment with Occupy Wall
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Street. When I captured the raid on the camp and the culture latched on to me, boom, it props you
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up. The truth is, I mean, it works in all facets. Like music, you might have a song, everybody loves
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it, but maybe you're a one at wonder, maybe you're not. Maybe you can find a way to speak to the
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masses for a longer period of time. The job of the internet influencer is to be the avatar of that
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emotion in that state. And so someone like Candace Owens, she's a person who knows how to surf that
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wave indefinitely. She's quite good at it. This means that first she's a lib. She was social
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autopsy, doxing conservatives, they claim. I'm not super familiar with what that was.
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And then she becomes red pill black. She sees the red pill wave. She sees the pro-Trump wave
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and she jumps onto it. She then ends up working with PragerU and Daily Wire and becomes massive,
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adhering to what the largest sect of tribalism wants to hear. Ultimately, she leaves the Daily
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Wire because I think she's a smart person and she understands the tides were shifting. She jumped
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ship before the Daily Wire took their downturn, and they have, no disrespect, but the Daily Wire
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views are down. Everybody in right-wing media is seeing this downturn. And she shifts the narrative
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to Blake Lively, Bridget McCrone, and now Charlie Kirk in Israel, and her viewership has never been
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better. She has ridden that wave of where she thinks the people are. Jeremy Boren came out
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and he pointed this out, saying that she just tries to be whatever the people want her to be.
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She's quite good at it. But there are others that just try to stay true to what they genuinely
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believe. Well, people like that will eventually find themselves staying static as the wave moves.
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So I've gotten some tweets. People have said, has Tim not changed his opinion on Israel? Well,
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guy, you claiming Israel is evil or crazy is not going to change my opinion on Israel.
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I know about foreign policy and I'm quite well versed in the histories that we are seeing in
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modern times. Thus, your narratives do not align with reality. And I'm talking about the narratives
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of like, you know, Israel controlling the United States foreign policy and everything like this.
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They certainly are an influence on it and are politicians to a great degree. But it doesn't
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explain Greenland, Panama, Taiwan, etc. So while they play a role, it makes no sense. And I'm not
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going to come out and just scream Israel is everything when it's not true. Well, these people
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get mad because in their world it is. And I do not represent where the tide has shifted for this
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group of people. If you are someone who's interested in nuance and you're interested in reality, I
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guess, you'll probably find yourself enjoying a show like this. But perception is reality. So for
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the people who have only just seen the spam blasting of Israel, Israel, Israel, then their
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reality is Israel and nothing else matters. So Tim Pool will be damned. He certainly does not
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represent the truth anymore. He's sold out. Well, I suppose I'd make the argument that if you're
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simultaneously claiming my views are down and that I'm a sellout, that's contradictory in that
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my views should be doing pretty dang well if I was a sellout, right? I'd be doing better than
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ever. Indeed, Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes are banned from YouTube, but Candace Owens is not.
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She's propped up because she is the individual who surfs the social wave. Good for her. You know,
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she makes a lot of money doing it. I suppose you can make arguments that she's a shill or a
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psyop or whatever, like attacking Nick Shirley made no sense. But maybe it's because she's a lib.
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Why did she attack Nick Shirley? Because that gets clicks on social media,
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because liberals are culty and will follow and, you know, whatever.
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So the other day, I've had a series, or I should say since yesterday, I've had a series of tweets.
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And one of them was a sarcastic, I am done with Trump.
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The comments I make where I say what I'm saying now, 50 retweets, if that.
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If I came out now and really cared about just the clicks and the views,
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I would just straight up be like, oh, Trump has crossed the line. I'm done with him. You know,
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the liberals were right the whole time. In fact, another post I have with a thousand plus retweets
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is, what if it was Trump and Epstein the whole time and not the Democrats? And the Democrats
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take it seriously because they're not smart if they don't care. And that proves my point.
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Guys, I think what I think about Epstein. I have interviewed Thomas Massey and Ro Khanna and both
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praise their work in releasing the Epstein files. The people who watch the show understand the
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nuance. So I guess I'd put it like this. I think the people who are retained in watching my show
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have been consistent and genuinely curious people. The people who have stopped watching it
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are more likely to be tribalist. These are people who come by and they leave. It may mean that in
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the future, I don't get very big viewership at all, but I don't know. That was never the case.
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That was never the point. The point was to talk about what I want to talk about and express
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my feelings, thoughts, and views on these issues. And so here we are right now.
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The issue is that the times they are a changing and anti-Trump is the way to go.
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I criticized Trump and Epstein the whole time. These people don't care. What they want is an
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avatar of their anger. And I get it. But I have. It is what it is. I want to show you some examples
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the guys supporting this show. But let me show you where we're currently at. So this story from
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the Daily Beast is just the example of them saying, look, MAGA is broken. We have this from
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media. Alex Jones says Trump's got big problems, asks God to free him from the demonic influences.
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I like Alex. I have to say this, though, with all due respect to the work that he's done,
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he's appeared on my show several times blackout drunk, sickly and seriously ill. And for that,
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I believe, you know, he deserves some criticism. There are a lot of people that are upset about
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it. He was very sick the last time he came on Tim Castile while we were in Austin, and he had to
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leave the show early because of his inebriation. Again, with all due respect to the work that he's
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done, I'm a big fan and he did apologize for this. I can only address it because everyone
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knows it happened. I'm not trying to be mean to the guy, but it did happen. And he apologized. He
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did. It's not the first time he's done it. He, you know, we had a morning culture war show with
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Alex talking about the state of the world, and it was one of the best shows we'd ever done. And so
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it is sad when he could be serious and we could have his conversations, but he doesn't. He just
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shows up drunk. So I do think he does have a lot of good things to say, however. Whatever people
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want to claim. All right. I brought this up this morning, but I'm going to bring it up now. Last
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night in Timcast IRL, I made the point that the Internet is largely composed of fake news,
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clips that are taken out of context for the purpose of smearing or claiming something
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supports you. So I made a fake post or I should say this. I said, watch, everybody's lying about
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everything to get clicks. They can make things up and it'll work. And we don't do that. But
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you know what? I could do it right now, too. Watch. Then I said Trump called me on the phone
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and then said, see, that's fake, but people will clip it,
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And sure enough, tons of people did, like clockwork.
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They just want something that will generate traffic.
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Now, by all means, if you are a first order thinker,
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maybe second or third, you're going to see that clip
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and you will see the responses where people go like,
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And it's fascinating because the higher order thinkers,
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the people who are consistent viewers on my show,
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are going, wow, it's eye-opening. The reason I do this is kind of like a Galman amnesia effect
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revelation, showing that there are many people who believe things to be true despite never
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actually investigating or trying to figure out the meaning behind it. So a handful of these people
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who share this, I've just been like, oh, bro, don't. Come on. Guys, come on. And they do it
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anyway. I'm not going to slam these individuals, but some of them are friends of the show,
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but on the show because they don't care. Loyalty be damned. You know, there are people but on the
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show who instead of calling me or texting me and saying, like, can we talk? They just made up fake
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stories. This is the ultimate black pill. There's one guy who almost lost his his job and his
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business because the government was targeting him. We had him on the show. He then went on Twitter
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and made up a fake story, claiming that he had been to the West Virginia studio, which he never
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did. He was at the Maryland studio, claimed we did not have security, which we have extensive
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security. And he did this because he knew it would generate traffic. That is what we are largely
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seeing, my friends. Is Trump perfect? No, of course not. Can you criticize him? Absolutely.
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Did Israel pressure us into starting this war with Iran? They did. In fact, Marco Rubio said it.
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Now, it's true that Rubio and Trump said we wanted to go to have this operation to begin with,
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But we were pressured into it early because Israel said, we're going to go in with or without you.
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And so we decided to move in because we were concerned that there would be collateral damage against U.S. assets and troops.
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But the Internet is largely based on fake news.
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One thing I've told you guys about, I warn you about, is that we are moving towards a restructuring of the media world.
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The goal is to have four or five subscription services that everyone gets their news and
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entertainment from. YouTube will be one of them, but it's becoming increasingly harder
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to become a prominent YouTube personality. They want you to have a certain message.
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I wonder if YouTube has actually just become the rat trap. And what's going to happen is it's
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going to be Netflix, Paramount, and maybe Peacock or something that are the dominant
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streaming platforms, maybe Disney. But Disney, I think, is a little in trouble. But you know,
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And then YouTube slowly lose relevance. So the people that are on YouTube that are pushing these
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narratives, I wonder if they'll actually make it in the long run because the machine is absolutely
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trying to re-control or gain control of the narrative once again. I don't know if there's
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a world for someone like me in there. I guess I don't really care. I always have stated I have
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no problem living in a van down by the river. But that is where it's going. That is what they've
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been claiming and what they're going to be pushing for. I'm going to show you some of the responses
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to this post. Shuanhead says, to be fair, it's really not that crazy to believe you had a private
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call with Trump when you've had literal private meetings with Netanyahu. I don't blame people for
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falling for this. Someone said he never had a private meeting with Netanyahu. He's invited
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with a whole bunch of people to have a debate with Netanyahu. Nothing private about it at all.
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I stopped watching when they added a Jewish correspondent. We have a correspondent who
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happens to be Jewish. It's absolutely insane. Retardious Maximus, he is licking Trump's ass.
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show has been unwatchable since his brain broke. And someone said, oh, shoot, not you too. You
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caught the retard virus. Someone said, huh? One second before he said it literally, I'm about to
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say is not true. Talk about falling for it. Indeed. What I can say about shoe on head is she's a
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perfect example of this. Shoe on head was friends with Lauren Southern for a while. They did videos
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together. When Lauren Southern was deemed persona non grata and was banned from Patreon,
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Shuan Head came out saying, I am not friends with Lauren Southern. I found it to be shockingly
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offensive. There is a famous moment in media and culture war history, which I respect deeply.
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There's a man named Andrew Arnheimer, who is a, I guess he's a Nazi, neo-Nazi. I mean,
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he's Jewish. He's a hacker. He was friends with many people in the hacker community,
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people that I consider to be friends to this day. And it was a wild, wild story back, you know,
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12, 15 years ago. Weave is the name he went by. And this guy was friends with a journalist by
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the name of Quinn Norton. Quinn Norton is a progressive. She's fairly lefty, probably not
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a fan of mine, but I know her. And we were friendly. I don't consider us to be like great
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friends or anything, though we had hung out on occasion because she's friends with many of these
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hackers. Quinn got a job with the New York Times. And she was going to be doing, I think,
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like cybersecurity reporting. But word got out that she was friends with Andrew Ahrenheimer,
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who has a giant swastika tattoo on his chest. When people attacked her, her response was,
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F you, he's my friend. And I will have infinite respect for her always for saying that.
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And I say this for many people that I have been attacked over being friends with.
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Many people have attacked me recently for having Milo Yiannopoulos on the show.
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I don't consider it to be like great friends or anything.
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He has, you know, maybe some issues of contention between us.
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I don't have to appreciate if he's mean to someone.
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Look, I've got no real beef with June or anything like that.
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Certainly Milo is not an innocent guy or anything, whatever.
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He's had bad things about other friends of mine.
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But he's done right by me and he's been nice to me.
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And my response is, I got no issue with the guy.
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And then people say, how could you have that guy on the show?
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People have commented saying I should fire Shane Cashman because he's far right or he's
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I don't live in worlds, the world of perfect people.
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I don't live in a world where everyone is holding hands, singing songs under a rainbow
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because they all believe in the exact same politics.
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I live in a world where we have friends and I will stand by my friends even if they disagree.
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Well, you know, Shane and Milo are friends as well.
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I'm not going to fire, disavow or insult people who are nice to me and who I respect.
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And even if we disagree strongly on a lot of things, you know, Milo come on the show
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and he's like, I'm just so sad about you and Candace.
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At any point, if any of these individuals want to insult, disavow or cast me out, so
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I don't consider myself to be beyond, you know, criticism or otherwise. And sometimes people say
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things you can't support. When Quinn said, you know, F you, he's my friend about weave. I was,
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it was, it was, I was inspired. It's one of the, it's a formative moment in my life for sure
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at this time. Again, not that I think Quinn probably respects me or anything like that,
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but I think it was a very, very important moment. And I think about that. And I think about one of
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the most important human attributes, and that's loyalty. One of my favorite stories is the story
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of Hachiko the dog. If you don't know the story, I'll just give you the quick, you know, cliff
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notes. The dog who waited at the train station every day for years, he would go, he would wait
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for his owner, his best friend, to get back from work, and he was a professor, and they'd walk home
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together. Except one day, the professor had a stroke while he was at his university teaching
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and died. And Hachigo waited for him for 10 years. They tried to move him, but he would always come
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back and he would wait, refusing to leave because he was waiting for his friend and
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he was never going to give that up. They celebrate in Japan Loyalty Day. Loyalty, I think, is one of
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the most important things. Blind loyalty can be dumb. Someone could be evil and they could be
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betraying you. Maybe that's Trump, maybe not. But loyalty matters. People who have been good to you
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and have helped you deserve the same. And if it comes to a point that someone I know who's a
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friend of mine says something abhorrent, my response is I don't agree with what they say,
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and I pray for them to come back to their senses. But I will never betray a friend.
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I may be betrayed. People have betrayed me like crazy, and it is sad. But I'm not going to do that.
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Right now, what we're seeing, in my opinion, is the epitome of betrayal from betrayers.
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I've never started any direct beef with shoe on head or anything like that, but I don't consider
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to be an honorable person, though I know that many people may be fans of hers because of what
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she did to Lauren Southern. Lauren Southern is my friend, and no matter what she has said,
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she is my friend. The same thing with Ashley St. Clair, who has been attacked relentlessly.
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She has been critical of Elon. She has disavowed her statements on trans kids,
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and she's gone Democrat. And my response will be the same. F you. She's my friend. I don't hang
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out with her a whole lot or anything like that. People's opinions change. I'm disappointed in some
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of the stances she's taken, but she's always been nice to me. And I don't understand this world of
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betrayers and mutineers. It's shocking to me, really. Now, I get it. Elon's a powerful guy.
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He follows me on X. I'm a big fan, actually. I love SpaceX. Critical of a lot of the stuff that
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he does. But it's crazy to me to see that so many people would just turn on Ashley, an attacker like
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crazy people that were friends with her. I mean, not like general audience on social media, because
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of that, because they want the favor of Elon Musk. I like Elon. I've chatted with him online, never
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met him in person. I'm a big fan of the work that he does. I love Tesla and I love SpaceX. I have
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invested in Tesla as well, a little bit. But Ashley is also my friend. And I am not a part
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Internet personalities exist to become avatars of emotion
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your job as an influencer is to adapt to the views
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Notably, again, I'm not trying to drag you over this,
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but you are the top comment on this post exemplifying this.
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And you did write a letter attacking Lauren Southern,
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with Lauren Southern was a risk to your social status,
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and your revenue and your job. You disavowed her. I think that's disgusting. I think that's really
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bad. She says it's not really crazy to believe it a private call with Trump. Indeed. But the
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point of the clip was that I was going to say something that did not happen to expose that
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people are going to clip it, share it and not even bother to look into what actually happened,
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despite the fact it actually is kind of silly to think the president called me before he made
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this post to thank me for being a supporter. I don't know, man. Everything's fake. I do love,
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I can't tell if he's being sarcastic or not. Okay, so you just troll people and take the
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bait. Well done. And what was the point? The point, Tim Jipping, if that is your real name,
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was to expose that online, most of the commentary you absorb is fake. Sam Seder is a great example
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of this, he too will pull clips out of context, then lie about them. And he literally admitted
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to doing it on my show when I was debating him. He asked me about the hypothetical position
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Republicans would take should they ban abortion, to which I don't agree with. And then I said,
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I suppose they'd do it like this. And he goes, explain it. So I explained it. And they start
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screaming at me, talking about how I would force women to get a letter from a judge and blah,
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blah, blah. And I'm like, but I don't agree with any of that. And he goes, no, I just wanted that
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clip because it's not real. At least he can admit it. I'll give Sam that respect. He flatly says on
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my show, I'm lying to my audience, but it makes me money and gets me traffic. Another great example
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of this was him. David Pakman made a video saying that Trump pooped his pants despite there's
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literally nothing happened. It was a press conference. This is the nature of reality.
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Can I show you? Let me see if I can. Trump poops. Yeah, here we go. Let me pull this up. I love that
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David Pakman. He has this video, press rushed out after Trump, quote, pooped pants.
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This has 2.5 million views. The basis for it is literally nothing. I'm not even kidding. It's
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actually literal nothing. Trump held a press briefing. He finished the press briefing,
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and then they said, OK, everybody, we're closing. And so they just made up that they closed because
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Trump pooped his pants and it got 2.5 million views. I think this is largely why you're seeing
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many people break from Trump. If you want to get views and political commentary, this ain't it.
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If you want to get views and political commentary, you need to say that Trump pooped his pants.
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And congratulations, I guess, then you will get 2.5 million views based on nothing.
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My point about this clip where I said Trump called me was this. On the basis of nothing,
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people who want to generate traffic to make money will knowingly manipulate the content
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to trick people because it works. None of it is honest, but to be fair, they didn't care in the
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first place. They're happy just to reshare the post without actually investigating or asking
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what happened. The funny thing is, I actually had a few people reach out to me and be like,
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is this true? Did Trump call you? And I was like, no. And they went, oh, okay. I'm like,
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hey, good job. Good job actually checking into it. The scarier thing, of course, is when
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Grok absolutely just says, yes, it happened. Look at this. Grok says, yes, according to Tim Poole.
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That's amazing. Grok is an idiot. There's actually this huge thread where Grok
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just keeps demanding it's true that Trump called me. I also said, funny enough, right after that,
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I said, wait, that one's not salacious enough. Let me say this. How dare Donald Trump posts
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about Tucker? I'm done. I am voting Democrat from now on. I am sick of the Republicans.
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Where's that one going viral? Because it's whatever is going to get the clicks.
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Trump hate gets the clicks. Me saying I support Democrats doesn't get the clicks.
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So on YouTube, you are probably going to see a bunch of people saying like Trump is still
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Tim is still defending Trump. You know, Trump defended Tim Poole and Tim defended Trump
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because that Trump hatred generates traffic. I tweeted this in response to Ed Krasenstein.
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Look at this one. It's got 4.5 million views with 1,400 retweets, 5,300 replies.
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Ed Krasenstein said, Trump just completely turned on Tucker, Candace, etc. I said,
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that does it. I am done. This is the last straw. I am so angry.
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I was actually just mocking Ed, who said Trump is done. This is it. Because I've never much cared
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for this stupidity. Yet here we are. This is the nature of reality. Democrats retweeted this like
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crazy and are now posting that Tim Pool is quitting the Republican Party. Well, I'm not a Republican.
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I can tell myself independent, currently leaning Republican, though I do expect Republicans to get
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BTF owed, blown the F out, as they say in the Trump circles. Trump's base is fracturing because
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anti-Trump content makes money. I'm not going to make content that says orange man bad.
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I'm not going to do it. I make content consistently about how Democrats do bad things
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because they do. And I think it's fair to criticize Donald Trump when it is bad things,
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which I've done, but I still largely view the Democrats as lunatics needing of reform and the
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Republicans largely as do nothings. So I was asked once, why do you make videos like Reagan on
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Democrats all the time? I said, they do bad things. And I get asked, yeah, but what about
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Republicans? I'm like, okay, like what are, what are, what do they do? Uh, yeah, I don't know.
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Sure. The Epstein files. Guess what? I had Thomas Massey and Ro Khanna on, I think both twice
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to get the Epstein files released. And we promoted those videos. But for the most part,
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Republicans do nothing. They're not passing the SAVE Act. So I've called them fake. And it's a
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scan. Criticize them for refusing to pass the SAVE Act. Indeed. The Democratic Party has been crazy
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with leftist woke policies, DEI, and going after Trump to get him arrested, arresting his lawyers.
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All of these things are insane. The Republican Party has largely done nothing. They've sat there
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like the Washington generals to the Democrats' Harlem Globetrotters. Not much to really go
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after the Republicans on when they don't do anything. And we want to stop the weird leftist
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policy stuff. I'm not a fan of the Iran war, of course, but I would stress that you're going to
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get war with any one of these presidents. Kamala Harris absolutely would have brought you this war.
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And I think keeping one hand in the steering wheel is the effective way to control
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to the best of our abilities. I wonder now what the true intention is. But what I will say is this.
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It is, my friends, the ultimate black pill that. People are turning on Trump because it makes money.
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I have a few examples. Let me let me drag at least one conservative. I went after shoe on head.
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You make a comment, shoe. I'm going to comment on you. But there's another one that I want to pull
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up. And it is from Brandon Strzok. And I'm going to throw some shade your way, Brandon.
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I tweeted this sarcastically. Y'all don't get it. Trump is saving them. He's casting them out,
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knowing that Democrats will come after anyone who supports him after the midterms. This is Trump
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being magnanimous. The word being magnanimous, that is showing deference to those weaker than you.
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generosity in a sense and then kellen walks in as i was like i'm gonna talk i'm gonna tweet this
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and he's like he sees magnanimous and he goes magnanimous i was like oh that's too good so i
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threw the extra a in there it's funny brandon strock says at i find retards you are needed
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i find retards is an account that comments on retarded posts and mocks the people for believing
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retarded things. Unfortunately for Brandon Strzok, this is very obvious sarcasm and you thought it
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was real. So you asked, I find retards to come and comment. And so I posted the meme, call an
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ambulance, but not for me. And do people still not get Tim Pool as a troll online? It's not even
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that I'm trolling. It's that I'm making a point using sarcasm. I'm not intending people to take
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that seriously when I use the word magnanimous. But you see people just, they don't want to ask
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the question. They want the sensationalism. I use sarcasm to make points. This is not bait.
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I did not post this so that people would think I was being serious. I posted it to literally
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and sarcastically mock Trump. But these people are retards. Brandon Strzok. Walk away campaign
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supporting Donald Trump. One million followers. I'm going to take a look at your X accounts and
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see what your views have been recently. He says MAGA has become tribal, hive minded at war with
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itself. I said it plainly at CPAC. That's his pinned post. I respect that. He then has a post
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about Karen Bass announcing 360 million for NGOs aimed at homelessness. Interesting story.
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When did he post this? 13 seconds ago. Just one up. Here's the next one. Deputies evacuated an
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apartment complex after a maintenance building fire triggered explosions, prompting an emergency
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response. Okay. He posted this 40 seconds ago. That's not even political. The walkaway campaign.
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Okay, I guess your last post was just general news. Well, interesting nonetheless.
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20 seconds before that, federal agents detained multiple people outside of a Rancho
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Cucamonga courthouse, sparking confrontations. A little political. This one was posted a minute
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ago. It's got two retweets. In that same minute, he posted this. Rep. Brandon Gill slams the
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Dignidad Act. Okay, that's political. Wow. That's, what is that, four posts in a minute?
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Four posts in one minute. Wow. Okay. Well, anyway, this one's got five retweets.
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Two minutes before that, he posted, Matt Walsh blasts California influencer for allegedly
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explaining how to exploit home health care programs. Cultural issue. It's interesting.
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That same minute, he posted, George Conway grows emotionally, emotionally discussing his major
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donation to Biden's effort. No retweets, 219 views. Two minutes before that, he posted a clip
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from Fox News. Senate Republicans head to the White House for high-stakes meeting.
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30 minutes before that, he posted the walk-away campaign, a retweet from the walk-away campaign.
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Oh, okay. A couple of them. A couple of them. A video from Hassan Piker talking about working
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class Americans. An hour before that, students at North Carolina chant F ice. Some political stuff.
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Okay. Here's a video from an hour ago that's got three retweets and 4,000 views.
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Tourists at Thailand's Maya Bay face strict enforcement with fines of $260 for staying
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Don't know what that has to do with the walkaway campaign, Brandon.
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Then he's got to Fox News Post, where Peter Doocy talks about it in that same hour.
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In that same hour, another Fox News clip about the UAE.
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Another, oh, this is, I'm sorry, Good Morning America.
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Thieves in Long Beach stole steel pickup tires during the gas tanks.
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Here's another one about EMS workers being assaulted.
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Here's parents performing CPR on their 19-year-old son.
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Here's the point I'm making, Brandon, about what you're doing.
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You want to send the retard finder my way.
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When viewership gets salty for Republicans, they've done two things.
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conservatives have shifted to posting general content spam blasting it as it were i mean
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homeboy brandon you're posting non-stop video clips generic without comments some just general
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viral clips a podcast with ben sass who has facial scoring from his cancer treatments
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uh the reality of student loan debt uh there you go uh a clip from the megan kelly show
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Texas Roadhouse honey butter contains no actual butter.
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Some of these, of course, are cultural political.
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But how many posts per hour is Brandon blasting out?
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I think it's fairly obvious Brandon's not running this account.
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as well as many other prominent individuals on the right, have started taking to posting
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general informational and viral videos. Because that's the way to get clicks right now, I guess.
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What we're seeing is pretty obvious, in my opinion. There are many people who are never
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truly sincere. Some were, some were not. Now, I'm not going to throw Brandon complete under
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the bus because the dude did go to prison over January 6th and being there. But there are many
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people who have realized that the times they are a changing. And so two big trends that we're
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seeing is prominent Trump personalities have flipped. Why? Well, on the surface, it's really
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obvious. David Pakman gets 2.5 million views saying Trump is bad, pooped his pants. You make
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a video saying Trump is good, you might you might get a couple hundred thousand. Many prominent
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conservatives have chosen, OK, anti-Trump still plays. Anti-Israel plays. Pro-Trump, pro-Israel
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does not play. So if you want views and you want money, that's your angle. Others who are unwilling
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to take that jump have shifted to general viral videos. I've seen a bunch of these people that I
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used to follow. I've unfollowed some of them because I used to follow them for commentary on
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news, but now they're just posting like black people fighting at a Walmart. I'm not even kidding.
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And I'm just like, okay. You know, Libs of TikTok has done it a little bit, posting viral content.
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and there are a few other accounts that literally sold their accounts to viral posting farms for
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that purpose. My friends, I'm going to be honest with you, I'm not interested in any of that.
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I'm not interested in posting viral content for the sake of viral content. I'm interested in
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talking about things that I care about, but it seems that the cultural uniformity is around
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hating Donald Trump. If you want the largest market share, this is the tribe that watches the
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most. That's what we are seeing. So I can't say I'm surprised to see the infighting at turning
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point, Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories, the Trump base is fracturing. Pick your poison, I guess.
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Well, you know, I don't know. I'm not going to, nor have I ever been, have I desired to
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try and be an avatar for a shifting cultural landscape. I will talk about what I think matters
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culturally, my thoughts and opinions on them. And the replies have been rather funny. Has Tim
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changed his opinion on Israel yet? He hasn't? I won't watch him then. Okay. That was always allowed.
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I wasn't asking you to watch me for my opinion on Israel. And if you develop the new opinion on
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Israel based on the views of the videos you're watching and your hatred for Trump, you're allowed
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to do that too. There's the door. You don't got to watch me. Now you can certainly be like Candace,
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insincere and get as many views and make as much money as possible. But I was never interested in
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that. So that's where we are. I call this, my friends, the ultimate black pill moment.
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But I have to be honest with you. If you've watched my videos for a long time, you know that
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I've said this a long time ago. After Occupy Wall Street, the left loved me. I was a hero.
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My opinions never changed. Maybe on guns, but for the most part, my opinions on free speech
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never changed. Yet they made me their enemy because I wouldn't support their political
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power plays. Well, I suppose the same is now for the people that are breaking from Trump and hating
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Israel. They love me once. They hate me now because I will not be an avatar of whatever
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their whims are. I will just talk about what I think. And then they say Tim's narcissistic.
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He's egotistical. He thinks he's so right. Yeah, I do. That's kind of the point. And if you think
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I'm wrong and stop watching. That was always allowed. So that's it. If you want someone who
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will just say what you think back to you, you can go find it with Candace Owens. Good luck. Have fun.
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I ain't bitching. I'm gonna do my thing. Make videos about what I want to make videos about.
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I don't know where all this goes. The midterms are coming up and it looks like the Republicans
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are gonna lose. So I suppose we'll just have to figure that one out. If you made it this far
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Probably we're going to talk about similar things
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were less than the views that we're getting now.
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Timcast IRL is doing about 600,000 views per day, 7,000 if you include all the audio downloads.
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We were doing about 350,000 to 400,000 at this same time in the previous election cycle.
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So, guys, you can scream and cry and say, Tim's viewership is down and all that stuff.
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Half our audience watches on Rumble, half on YouTube.
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So, YouTube is down to a certain respect, but we track the metrics and we do the sales.
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Our sales numbers are better than they've ever been.
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I imagine that as we get into the midterm cycle, these rifts will sort of die down.
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But at least elevate yourself to a higher order of thinking.
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Don't just blindly follow what everyone is telling you to believe.
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I've never received money from any political group. I've not ever received any money from
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any foreign government. In fact, I've only ever rejected it. The claims that I have received money
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from Israel are a lie and stupid, or that there was anything discussed in that meeting with Netanyahu
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other than the war with Iran, to which half the room is agreed with. The statement that I received
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money from Russia is a fabrication, which has never been proven, and it's just plumb false.
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The idea that the amount of money we received for licensing the culture war show, this show,
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was substantial is also a lie, considering Call Her Daddy gets substantially more money.
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And despite the fact that Culture War, when we were doing it live, was around the 10th
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biggest live stream in the country every week on Friday, we license at a lesser rate
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than smaller shows. But they lie. It's what they do, because the name of the game is political
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power. And are you useful to those that are seeking that power? If not, away with ye.
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So maybe away with me, but it is what it is. I'll make poker content, we'll play some Magic
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the Gathering, and we'll talk cultural issues. I'll talk politics because I care about it,
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but I'm never going to lie and pander to angry mobs on the internet. I'm not going to start
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posting random viral clips where, you know, on my Timcast News channel, I have done some of that
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in the past. A lot of the videos I had early on were just like trendy news stories about fights
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at bars. Shift a little way from that, but sometimes I'll do it. My ex-account is never
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going to just start spam posting news clips because I need the engagement. But whatever.
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You guys do you. If you've got issue with what I've said, Shu or Brandon, like, by all means,
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tell me I'm wrong. That was always allowed as well. And it is what it is for everybody else.
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The point of that statement on IRL about Trump calling me. It's because you guys don't actually
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listen. It's because you don't investigate. It's because you believe whatever the clip is,
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regardless of context. And while mine was an egregious, obvious skit, an example that some
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may fall for. Think about the times where you've seen a video where someone said something like
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Trump is bad or Trump is good. For instance, right now, this is the network effect.
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Democrats are circulating widely that I have finally left the Republicans that I've denounced
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Donald Trump because of one sarcastic post. Instead of looking at my Twitter feed or watching
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my show to see what I really think, they see one joke, take it seriously, and they've created a
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narrative in their own minds. Okay. The Hodge twins have been accused of this. I'll throw them
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before we go. I don't know if it's true, so I don't want to accuse them because, you know,
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I don't know. But what I've been told, what the rumor is on X is that on X, they're very critical
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of Trump and Israel. On Facebook, they're very pro-Trump and pro-Israel. I don't know if that's
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true, but again, this is what you'll see if you see it on X. And I say I don't know if it's true
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or not because I may be doing exactly what I criticize others of doing. But this is a good
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point in that bigger picture. There is a belief that the Hodge twins have handed over their
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accounts to managers and their interest is engagement. So on Facebook, they're pro-Trump
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where they get a lot of boomers, and on X, they're not, where you get a lot of anti-Trump sentiment.
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If that's false, it's another example of exactly what I'm talking about.
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If it's true, it also is exactly what I've been talking about. Kind of funny how that works,
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right? Either people are lying about them because it gets clicks, or the Hodge twins are lying to
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you because it gets clicks. It's weird, isn't it? So I guess my friends, we'll wrap it up there.