Ann Coulter joins me to talk about the Epstein scandal, why Trump should have pardoned Jelaine Maxwell, and why he should not have been pardoned at all. She also gives her thoughts on Trump's interview with Laura Ingraham.
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00:00:25.960You would think by now, it had been, this one little thing has been beaten into them enough.
00:00:35.880Americans need the jobs. Americans are good workers. Americans are being sold out.
00:00:40.900And I'll get back to why Americans are better workers.
00:00:45.520What is going on, guys? This is Tate Brown here holding it down for Tim Pool.
00:00:49.080I've got a great interview with Ann Coulter.
00:00:51.300Obviously, you probably saw the Trump interview on Fox yesterday.
00:00:55.020It didn't go so great. The messaging wasn't there.
00:00:58.080Ann Coulter had a lot of thoughts on this interview, so stay tuned and check out her response.
00:01:03.480Well, first, I wanted to say, I was taking a look at your new, your sub stack, Unsafe.
00:01:07.820Really tremendous stuff. Can you tell us a little more about it?
00:01:10.600Yes, it's great. You got my column delivered directly to your inbox before everyone else can read it and rip it off.
00:01:16.100This week, it's on something kind of tangentially related to what we're talking about, and that is I read all of Virginia Jiffra's book, Nobody's Girl, and it is so much more.
00:01:28.560She was one of the most vocal and articulate spokesmen of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein, and it's shocking.
00:01:35.800It's really, really shocking, which I just finished it when I see the headline.
00:01:42.460Jelaine Maxwell says, new prison cell. Fantastic.
00:01:45.900So, you know, this is another great thing Trump is doing for his MAGA base, which I absolutely cannot understand.
00:01:54.540These emails that were released today, I mean, the Democrats are so desperate to tie Trump to Epstein.
00:01:59.580I don't think those are particularly implicating.
00:02:01.780But the fact that Trump refuses to rule out pardoning Jelaine Maxwell, when you read, you don't have to read the book, read my column.
00:02:13.100It's going up later today to see how intimately involved she was, not only in procuring the girls, but in the really disgusting molestation.
00:02:23.320And it was Trump's decision to move Jelaine Maxwell to this minimum security prison where she's having such a wonderful time.
00:02:33.100I mean, the assumption among every—I've been following this case since it first broke in Palm Beach, long before the national media had it.
00:02:39.320I did get Bill O'Reilly to talk about it, and that was it.
00:02:45.000But the assumption among people who have been following this is that it's not Trump, that young girls don't really seem to be his type, even back when he was a Democrat, but that it's his donors.
00:02:58.180This is—to have—to snub your nose on something this important to the MAGA base, I mean, I think as a lot of people have been saying, including Tim Poole, this is so going to destroy Republicans in the midterms.
00:03:13.520Now let's get to what we're really talking about.
00:03:18.060It's a lot of this—you're just seeing people, the vitriol from the base, and it's just—there does seem to feel—it feels like there's a bit of a distance from the admin officials and the base, which didn't seem to always be there, especially in, like, campaigns.
00:03:30.060It seems like the Trump administration super—or the Trump campaign is super reactive to the base.
00:03:34.100And then as soon as we get into, you know, into office, a bit of a gulf erupts.
00:03:39.500Now, I gotta say, before—Anne, like, I'm a huge fan.
00:03:41.860I've never done this before on an interview.
00:03:44.220My family was, like, so excited that you were coming on.
00:03:47.080So I'm glad we got you, because this story, I couldn't think of anyone better than Ann Coulter to break down.
00:03:52.940I wanted to ask, before we, like, get into the, you know, meat and cheese here, with the—coming from media background, a lot of people were saying the Laura Ingraham interview was, like, a bit of a hit.
00:04:03.060They were saying, oh, well, you know, she set him up with some of the questions, or maybe it was adversarial.
00:04:07.920I mean, did you get that sense at all?
00:04:09.660I mean, I'm sure you have a relationship with Laura, but I don't know.
00:04:12.500No, I—my sense is more that expectations for Fox News hosts are so low.
00:05:16.620It was the year before Adios America about immigration that got me banned from all media because it was about immigration, everything everyone's saying now.
00:05:25.540Right before In Trump We Trust came out, literally that day, Trump was being interviewed by Hannity at the border.
00:05:33.660And I forget exactly which part of this he came out for, but I think he said he would consider amnesty and he'd do a trade on amnesty.
00:05:40.340This is when he's still running for office in 2016.
00:05:44.340So we've—and during some of the Republican debates, he started talking about how, oh, we need workers.
00:05:49.600And then he'd have to—and his campaign would put out a press release clarifying, i.e. taking back everything he said.
00:05:57.940So he's always been very soft on this.
00:05:59.920You would think by now it had been—this one little thing has been beaten into him enough.
00:06:35.580And the gal from Stanford was particularly interested in why Trump wasn't cutting back on Chinese students.
00:06:43.240And she told me the Stanford campus is at least 30 percent Chinese nationals.
00:06:48.900And all these American students at Stanford University, one of our premier universities, majoring in computer science, they can't get jobs.
00:06:57.260They're being undersold by the H-1B workers.
00:07:01.440And their theory—and I don't know enough about this to know whether it's true, but I don't know.
00:07:05.900A Stanford undergrad is smarter than I am.
00:07:07.720They think it's because Trump is worried about the rare earth minerals we need from China.
00:07:13.060Now, if true, I think he ought to get that message out through the grapevine.
00:08:24.420Well, I mean, I remember this was the whole brouhaha around last Christmas where, you know, a few figures on the right were coming out and saying, like, oh, Americans are lazy.
00:08:32.640And it's, like, intrinsic in our culture, which is just ridiculous because, like, we can look up on the moon and see a flag up there.
00:08:56.420Let's just, for the sake of argument, let's grant that.
00:08:58.300My question is, how do we guarantee the workers are compliant with H-1B standards?
00:09:03.360Because go back to December, everyone was posting all these listings from, like, public databases showing that we were bringing in, like, hundreds of thousands of workers from India to work, like, janitor gigs.
00:09:15.700Like, it was absolutely ridiculous the amount of scamming going on.
00:09:18.780So I'm like, look, first of all, I hate the taste of turmeric, so I don't even know if I want them here anyway, even if they were, like, you know, like, monster workers.
00:09:26.500But there's just, there's, like, scams left and right.
00:09:29.740And it's India, so, I mean, go figure.
00:09:31.280But there's, like, it's just ridiculous.
00:10:29.820Because there it is, another example of Trump goes out and says something stupid about bringing in foreign workers, and everybody around him has to rush out.
00:11:04.700And then, also, the Indians and the Chinese and the H-1B workers come in, and then they bring their elderly parents so they can instantly go on Social Security.
00:11:22.080I think we've, like, invented new casts of Indians just in America alone, like in Silicon Valley.
00:11:26.680I mean, like, for example, and I totally agree with your prior point where, like, Besson, yeah, like, they have to come out and kind of smooth over everything.
00:11:33.260And then we can talk about gnomes comments later, obviously.
00:11:37.380But, like, to your point with the H-1B, it's like, okay, yes, they're taking jobs, but they're also, and this is a very valid concern to have, is they're changing our communities.
00:11:46.520I mean, there's all across the United States.
00:11:48.000I grew up outside of Memphis, Tennessee, a very American place that's primarily black and white.
00:11:52.280It's been that way for its entire existence.
00:11:54.840The suburb I grew up in, I was looking at the elementary school I was zoned to, and FedEx is headquartered right outside, right outside of this school.
00:12:01.420So, FedEx has brought in all these H-1B workers.
00:12:04.040They're battery farming, like Indians, basically.
00:12:06.180And the demographics of this elementary school have radically swung from primarily being a black and white school to, like, 80% Asian.
00:12:13.620And if you break that down, it's mostly South Asians.
00:12:16.140And so it's like, yeah, the jobs, taking the jobs is, I think, the primary concern, obviously, because that impacts people directly.
00:12:23.200But even the changing, like, the demographic changing of some of these communities that are, like, around these major headquarters, that's a very valid concern as well.
00:12:31.660And that's not being addressed as much.
00:13:03.600Everyone we bring in makes us less free, makes our culture different, makes us less of a high-trust society.
00:13:10.440You can take in little, you know, little bits of immigrants.
00:13:13.740It's like, you know, putting a spice on a meal.
00:13:16.400You have a nice filet mignon, put a little salt on it.
00:13:18.660But if all you're getting is a huge chunk of salt, that's not the same recipe.
00:13:24.020And it absolutely changes our culture.
00:13:27.860When we're talking about, you know, some little pissant culture in the middle of the ocean where they're still running around in loincloths and haven't invented the wheel,
00:13:36.220oh, be careful, don't interrupt the indigenous culture, we must protect it.
00:13:40.480Okay, we've got the best culture in the world, and we're not allowed to protect our culture?
00:14:44.420The birthright citizenship, and I insist on calling it anchor babies and not birthright, but I mean, not just because it's more descriptive.
00:14:55.120Um, it's one thing to say legal immigrants here who have not yet been naturalized, but we looked them over, we admitted them, um, we want them to be our fellow citizens.
00:15:07.000It's one thing to say if they drop a baby, that baby is an American citizen.
00:15:11.520It is another thing entirely to say an eight-month, you know, pregnant Mexican lady runs across the border, evades, uh, you know, border control.
00:15:23.760I mean, it is preposterous that this is what our founders, our framers, were thinking about of the 14th Amendment right after the Civil War.
00:16:45.180Because the data they put out, 56% of foreign-born-led households are on some form of welfare, whatever that is, versus I think it was about 43% of Native Americans.
00:16:56.680So it's like the whole argument that immigration is our strength for insert reason here.
00:17:01.060You just look at that one data point, it just completely falls apart right in front of your very eyes.