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00:00:56.980 If they've been relying on American voters to be replaced by a coalition of resentful outsiders

00:01:04.700 and welfare-dependent immigrants, then the Republican Party has been the consent manufacturing plant 0.93

00:01:11.960 for that to happen under the guise of cheap labor and being lobbied by corporations

00:01:16.060 who employ Americans to then generate profits, the proceeds of which they use to lobby politicians

00:01:21.300 to import their cheaper replacements.

00:01:22.780 What is going on, everybody?

00:01:25.360 This is Tate Brown here holding it down.

00:01:27.040 I am back for another installation of Across the Pond.

00:01:30.440 This is the second consecutive episode.

00:01:32.560 That means it's a thing now.

00:01:33.840 I don't know, Connor, what are you thinking?

00:01:34.820 How are you feeling about this so far?

00:01:36.400 Well, I appreciate all the positive feedback that our viewers gave us on last week's episode,

00:01:41.500 so I can only hope that we performing monkeys can keep entertaining you

00:01:45.260 without having to turn to this knife fight on the cruise ship deck from The Simpsons.

00:01:48.940 It's true, yeah.

00:01:50.880 I mean, look, that's the ultimate that we're here for is we're just content jockeys, content donkeys.

00:01:57.200 We're just here to present the news to you in a way that is not putting you to sleep.

00:02:02.200 So, yeah, it was good to hear.

00:02:03.040 It was good to hear the feedback.

00:02:03.820 I think a lot of people are excited about the concept of Across the Pond, the British and American thing.

00:02:08.380 As far as I know, no one's really doing it.

00:02:10.940 And so, I mean, I don't know.

00:02:12.840 Maybe we have lightning in a bottle.

00:02:13.860 I don't know.

00:02:14.280 But with that, we do have a lot of insanity this week.

00:02:18.800 Trump had a moment, though.

00:02:21.080 The plan trusters were tested this week.

00:02:22.680 There's no question about that, you know.

00:02:25.400 Right, yeah.

00:02:26.140 So, Trump obviously has this interview with Lori Ingram that drops Tuesday.

00:02:30.260 And the messaging was off, to say the least.

00:02:33.260 It was pretty grim.

00:02:34.940 He basically gave a full-thorded endorsement of the H-1B program.

00:02:39.720 To the dismay of patriots everywhere, he said,

00:02:42.660 Well, you know, America actually might need labor from overseas.

00:02:46.980 That we might not have the talent at home.

00:02:49.820 Now, okay, look.

00:02:51.080 There's no question that's pretty indefensible.

00:02:52.680 That's a pretty horrible, horrible rhetoric.

00:02:55.180 That's kind of what you would expect to hear from, like, a Democrat.

00:02:57.060 Certainly not from Donald Trump.

00:02:59.280 But I think he got a little confused.

00:03:01.960 That's all I'm going to say.

00:03:02.600 I'm not coping.

00:03:03.820 You know, everyone's accusing me of coping.

00:03:05.100 I think he got a little confused.

00:03:06.000 I think he was referring specifically, I had in the back of his mind.

00:03:08.920 Because the way Trump sort of works is he'll just kind of regurgitate what the last advisor told him.

00:03:14.660 So the last advisor was talking about this plant in Georgia.

00:03:18.160 It's a Korean manufacturing plant.

00:03:21.080 And they had to bring over Korean workers to sort of train the locals on how to operate this manufacturing plant.

00:03:28.460 And ICE had conducted a raid there fairly recently.

00:03:32.340 And so Trump was saying, well, look, we might need to, like, tone that down.

00:03:35.780 Again, I disagree.

00:03:37.000 I think, like, I'd rather just give the gigs to untrained Americans and let us figure it out. 1.00

00:03:42.320 Because I just don't really trust these visa holders to be compliant with our regulations. 1.00

00:03:48.900 I mean, we all saw the Vivek December crash out where, you know, he was saying how Americans are intrinsically lazy.

00:03:57.740 And, like, because we know we don't do homework all day and we have sleepovers and whatever.

00:04:00.820 And, yeah, because people are posting all these H-1B listings where it's just, like, janitor gigs.

00:04:05.700 So it's like, okay, I see what Trump is saying, right?

00:04:07.520 I see he's like, okay, you know, in theory, you know, you could bring in these workers to help train the locals that maybe are a little, you know, need some guidance or whatever.

00:04:17.300 But that's just never been the case.

00:04:19.900 The H-1B program is always used just for battery farming Indians, effectively. 0.92

00:04:24.740 Yeah, what is it, 71% of recipients are Indian and then the next largest ethnicity is 12%, which are the Chinese.

00:04:32.220 And Trump, in the same interview, said, well, we need 600,000 Chinese students to prop up our historically black colleges.

00:04:38.740 Is that what you voted for, guys?

00:04:41.380 Is it battery farming the sons and daughters of the CCP and MIT to prop up historically black colleges so that Trump can say he's done more for black people than Abraham Lincoln?

00:04:50.900 Look, I believe in trusting the plan and always chimping as a transatlantic strategy as it happens. 0.80

00:04:58.740 However, I do think that Trump has hit the ceiling of his baseness that all boomers have in that we know for a fact behind the scenes in the Department of Agriculture and the like, in the restaurant industry, 0.79

00:05:14.100 there have been people that have been lobbying him to tone down the deportations, to rein in Stephen Miller a bit so they can keep their migrant slave class. 0.95

00:05:23.700 And so when Trump gives this example of the South Koreans working in the battery manufacturing plant,

00:05:29.600 he sets up the false binary of, look, we either have illegal workers in a black economy pricing Americans out of their jobs,

00:05:36.140 forcing them out of their homes because they can't afford to live in the town cities they grew up in because they don't have well-paying jobs despite taking on tons of college debt,

00:05:42.780 or, if we don't have illegal workers, we replace American labor with legal workers,

00:05:48.300 presuming that the qualifications in inferior education institutions overseas are exactly on parity with that of American institutions,

00:05:55.080 which are much more expensive and much more rigorous, and so if we don't have illegals, we get legals instead.

00:06:00.120 And what the problem is, at the heart of MAGA, is that there has been this sort of tech-bro, entrepreneurial, co-belligerent faction that has entered the coalition.

00:06:11.060 We think of Vivek, we think of Elon Musk, because obviously it was Musk who first declared that he was going to go to war over H-1Bs,

00:06:18.300 and that was his primary issue, was bringing in, you know, Indians to work in Silicon Valley tech firms rather than hiring Americans.

00:06:24.540 But the main driving force, whether it's the philosophical national conservatives like J.D. Barnes,

00:06:30.840 or whether it's just the middle American patriots who don't need a comprehensive philosophy for why they love their country,

00:06:37.160 why they want to protect their people, why they want to preserve their culture, is that Trump, in his immigration and economics rhetoric in this interview,

00:06:44.380 is picking the side of the tech bros who treat America as, like, a global bus station, or a global job center, or a shopping mall, or a sports team,

00:06:52.540 rather than a home full of family members whose constituent parts are irreplaceable.

00:06:57.660 And what people want to hear from Trump is the American exceptionalist rhetoric, but not just American values or America's abilities to generate GDP,

00:07:06.120 but it's the fact that all of those things are possible, that America is the gravitational center of geopolitics,

00:07:13.880 America is a titan of industry, America is a cultural manufacturing plant, because the American people are exceptional.

00:07:21.920 And, you know, as a Brit, I claim credit for spawning you guys, because you are our best invention.

00:07:26.420 And when Trump says, no, actually, in order to increase the GDP, we need tons of Chinese students and tons of cheap Indian workers, 1.00

00:07:35.780 I'm sorry, that's just not America first.

00:07:38.020 And so the base is chimping by necessity.

00:07:41.420 And so the people are saying MAGA is over.

00:07:43.520 I don't think so.

00:07:44.420 So don't, you know, ostracize yourself from the ability to exert pressure on the administration

00:07:50.520 to kick this up the chain from, you know, State Department staffers that are reading their feeds

00:07:54.080 and following anons all the way to Vice President Vance and President Trump.

00:07:57.720 But do chimp, because they do listen, and they're getting this wrong, 1.00

00:08:01.980 and if they don't solve the immigration question, they're going to get it wrong intergenerationally,

00:08:06.500 and they're going to render multiple states just like California when Reagan did amnesty.

00:08:10.780 Go from red to blue to solid blue for decades.

00:08:15.120 Yeah, absolutely.

00:08:15.860 I mean, you hit on it earlier.

00:08:17.500 I think you nailed it.

00:08:19.200 There's sort of a ceiling for baseness that you can really get from a baby boomer.

00:08:25.800 And, you know, Trump, he wasn't, I mean, he's, you know, always been a fairly political guy

00:08:30.220 as far as, like, he had opinions, but he wasn't a politico per se,

00:08:34.020 and he never really has been, and he probably never will be.

00:08:37.600 So when he came into politics, obviously, his first gig was president.

00:08:41.940 And the people that surrounded him sort of giving him, like, alternative messaging

00:08:46.320 when he's trying to, like, get policy passed.

00:08:49.380 And unfortunately, he takes a lot of their advice.

00:08:53.140 For one, that's why you get that moment where, you know, we're saying,

00:08:57.440 okay, we need these Chinese students to prop up these universities like the HBCUs. 0.99

00:09:01.680 That's because someone told him that that's, like, some sort of consulting group.

00:09:08.720 That's a consulting group written all over it.

00:09:10.480 That's something you would hear, you know, Nikki Haley say back in the day

00:09:14.840 or Jeb Bush say back in the day.

00:09:16.720 That's crazy, though, because Nikki Haley and her son are to the right of Trump on this issue.

00:09:20.240 Like, Nikki Haley is pointing out, saying, as an Indian, no more Indians, please.

00:09:23.780 And the HBCUs thing, sorry to interrupt, but it's like, you can guarantee that, as you said,

00:09:28.400 a consultant has come to him and said, oh, this is like a one-to-two-point bump among the brothers.

00:09:33.640 Therefore, make this marginal inroad with the fair-weather friends of black voters

00:09:38.160 who are wedded to the Democrat Party more than they are the wives and girlfriends

00:09:42.500 and baby mamas they skip out on, but neglect your majority 1.00

00:09:48.100 and also your most likely support base, which is young white guys

00:09:51.500 who just want to get a job, own a home, and have a family,

00:09:54.420 and who are staring down not just an average age of home ownership being 40,

00:09:58.260 not just taking on lots of college debt to then work multiple jobs

00:10:01.720 that don't actually allow them to repay said college debt

00:10:04.080 because they're more technically qualified than the job market will allow,

00:10:07.440 but also Trump's solution to lack of home ownership

00:10:10.600 caused by mass migration, market competition, and Biden administration regulations is,

00:10:15.280 well, let's add an extra 20 years to your mortgage and make you a rent-off. 0.97

00:10:18.940 It's like, but please, please, I'm begging out here.

00:10:22.700 Yeah, well, I think that's why you saw, you're seeing, like, Nikki Haley,

00:10:26.220 why you're seeing DeSantis outflank to the right is because I think they've realized

00:10:29.220 that the consulting class is part of the reason they are, like, being hamstrung,

00:10:32.640 and so now they're listening to their staffers for messaging on a lot of these things,

00:10:37.160 even if the policy isn't great, because honestly, like, you pull the hood up

00:10:39.920 on a lot of these supposedly really based guys, and you look at their voting records,

00:10:43.960 it's not that great, but a lot of times their messaging is good,

00:10:46.180 and it's because they're getting it from their, like, Zoomer staffers,

00:10:48.420 and they're tapped in, they're obviously on Twitter,

00:10:51.420 they're seeing the discourse as it's happening, these sorts of things,

00:10:54.680 but for Trump, he's completely insulated from that.

00:10:57.120 I mean, I would be very surprised.

00:10:59.420 I mean, I'm somewhat privy to the operations of the White House to a very limited degree.

00:11:04.040 I would be surprised if there was a Zoomer that was sort of, you know, 0.90

00:11:09.280 providing counsel to Trump on a fairly regular basis,

00:11:11.900 and you do actually have that with, like, Nikki Haley.

00:11:14.480 So, again, she has, like, a pre-built ideology that's just going to be principally opposed

00:11:19.380 to America First, but, I mean, on issues like visas, you know,

00:11:24.080 her Zoomer staffers are like, hey, this is, like, an easy money, easy winning issue.

00:11:29.060 Trump is completely caught flat-footed.

00:11:30.340 This is the same thing we saw with the Epstein stuff, you know, a few months ago,

00:11:33.720 where, you know, by all accounts, Trump, Bondi was just completely out of step

00:11:39.540 with what the base felt about the Epstein issue.

00:11:42.020 And it's kind of the same thing, which is, look, they,

00:11:46.020 Bondi and Trump consume Fox News primarily.

00:11:48.560 That's what they're, that's how they're ingesting sort of takes, I guess you would say.

00:11:53.060 So anything that they don't develop organically, they're going to get through Fox News.

00:11:56.640 No one on Fox is talking about the Epstein stuff.

00:11:58.400 No one really cares in that sphere.

00:12:01.500 The Epstein stuff was a very online thing.

00:12:04.540 And I'm not saying it's, you know, whatever.

00:12:06.680 Everyone has, should be upset about how that was handled.

00:12:09.520 There's no question about that.

00:12:10.700 What I'm saying is that people online really, really cared about this.

00:12:13.720 This feels a little different, though, this, this H-1B reversal,

00:12:17.440 because the Epstein stuff was always a sideshow.

00:12:20.180 It was Elon's idea to even include that as part of the, you know, 2024 campaign.

00:12:25.660 But the visa thing kind of strikes at the heart of what, like, making America great again looks like, 0.59

00:12:32.160 which is scab labor.

00:12:33.680 Like, this has been consistently his number one issue, scab labor.

00:12:38.280 So that's why the betrayal, it feels a bit more like a betrayal.

00:12:41.960 So, but then I want to get to your point as well as, yeah, there's a difference between calculated critiques, chimping.

00:12:50.240 There's a huge difference between that and, yeah, these, like, people that I think were almost excited to see Trump slip up.

00:12:56.680 So there's, there's an entire sphere that's just so desperate to be able to say, I told you so,

00:13:01.340 that they're just waiting for the first instance of Trump having a blunder to then trot out and declare that MAGA is dead, da-da-da-da-da-da.

00:13:10.880 And they also, these, these people, when they do declare this, I mean, they're all over this week.

00:13:16.240 Panikins, as a lot of them have been dubbed.

00:13:18.000 And they never really provide an alternative to Trump.

00:13:21.340 So they, they'll be the first people to ankle by and say like, oh, Trump, you know, he's not the guy or MAGA is dead, these sorts of things.

00:13:29.200 But they never really provide an alternative.

00:13:30.940 They just kind of, because I think right-wing media, the way it's developed thus far was inherently contrarian.

00:13:37.060 Because like, if you're, if you're on like the, you know, more further extremities of the right, you were used to being crowded out of institutions anyway.

00:13:44.460 So you just naturally developed a like certain degree of contrarianism, where now that Donald Trump is president,

00:13:49.660 a lot of these people still have their pre-built contrarianism and they, and they can't shake that.

00:13:54.680 They can't accept that they actually have sway over the U.S. government.

00:13:58.080 So they just react by spurging in, in every conceivable direction at all times.

00:14:04.140 Again, I'm not saying like, again, I'm not saying what happened this week was like overblown.

00:14:08.800 Like it was a really rough week.

00:14:10.140 It was a really bad messaging.

00:14:11.200 Some ways demoralizing, again, I'm not blackpilling.

00:14:15.380 I'm just saying it was kind of a gut punch to see.

00:14:17.720 But Vance came out yesterday, kind of mopped up the situation.

00:14:23.100 The clip is kind of a long clip, so I can just read his direct quote.

00:14:26.660 Vance quote, a lot of young people are saying housing is too expensive.

00:14:30.580 Why is that?

00:14:31.300 It's because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal immigrants who are taking the houses that ought by rights go to American citizens. 1.00

00:14:37.780 So like Vance messaging, this is where I think goes back to what my initial point was with the boomers have a ceiling on baseness is Vance being the first millennial, the first sort of generation that developed their political instincts online.

00:14:53.120 That's why his messaging is consistently so good, because he's like, I think he's just like fluent in the zeitgeist.

00:14:58.700 He knows what the base is going to want to hear to like relax and calm down.

00:15:02.880 And yeah, I mean, there's a tweet here from John Doyle is providing some commentary on it.

00:15:06.300 I think it's the perfect, perfect take here.

00:15:08.440 It's so funny because Vance's messaging is literally always perfect, yet the most base to count on here always cite him as the biggest villain who under no circumstances can be allowed to win in 28.

00:15:19.000 It really makes you wonder what their true motives are.

00:15:21.140 That's the thing.

00:15:21.780 I think it's the just natural contrarianism where they just panic.

00:15:26.780 They don't really know how to handle power.

00:15:28.420 They don't trust him.

00:15:29.040 So anytime any power is achieved, they're inherently skeptical.

00:15:32.160 They're like, something must be off because we're used to not being in power.

00:15:35.300 I don't know what you think about this.

00:15:36.680 I agree somewhat.

00:15:37.580 I do kind of want to steel man their position.

00:15:40.960 Not that I agree with it because I agree with you in the, look, with the Trump administration, you've got the first net emigration administration in how many decades? 0.80

00:15:51.340 I'm not happy that Kristi Noem is saying that she's, you know, rubber stamping various citizenship grants at an accelerated rate, which means that you're stuck with this problem intergenerationally.

00:16:00.760 No, you should be denaturalizing and deporting instead of expediting green cards into permanent citizenship. 0.79

00:16:05.400 But if I may, the success of chimping is that you beat your chest and sound threatening more than you fling turds around. 0.98

00:16:16.280 Because if it's just turd flinging, then you're the only one that gets covered in poop.

00:16:18.980 An apt analogy for talking about H1Bs, I suppose. 1.00

00:16:24.360 Yeah, there you go.

00:16:25.900 Tyler Olivera's ears are burning somewhere.

00:16:27.800 But what I think the guys that are critiquing Vance, saying that MAGA is over, posting the, you know, Fooled Again award are trying to do, is some of them are contrarian.

00:16:39.580 And some of them want to be vindicated more than they want to win.

00:16:42.580 Sure, fair enough.

00:16:43.580 But I think some of them, though, are playing a game where they're trying to enact political leverage via social disapproval.

00:16:51.240 Because, as we can see with Ron DeSantis, as we can see with Nikki Haley, as we can see with Nancy Mace, you know, myself and Will Chamberlain posting, we should denaturalize and deport Ilhan Omar, and then, you know, she brings it forward. 0.92

00:17:04.160 Politicians want to be liked, and therefore there is the opportunity for containment breaches if they go off script and chase popularity.

00:17:10.620 And so what a lot of these guys are trying to do, you know, I've put the Groypers in this category. 0.99

00:17:16.200 They did the same thing when they went to Charlie Kirk's TPOSA events, queued up, and confronted him on camera about his contradictions with Rob Smith promoting gay sex conservative or not being bothered about legal migration as well as illegal migration. 0.86

00:17:27.900 What they're trying to do is hold the perception of public support, whether or not it has electoral payoff, hostage to say the Republican Party, if it doesn't concede to all our demands, whether it's on foreign policy, whether it's immigration policy with H-1Bs, the Republican Party deserves to be destroyed. 0.86

00:17:45.540 And so it would be easier to start from scratch rather than making marginal gains but ultimately taking setbacks.

00:17:52.780 Think, you know, Ronald Reagan winning the Cold War but doing mass amnesty, doing no-fault divorce, putting limits on the Second Amendment.

00:17:59.840 So basically conceding to the Democrat narrative and putting the right on rails to drift leftward.

00:18:03.860 Or, with Vance, and I think these are unwarranted concerns given his rhetoric's always right, he's always on message, both publicly and privately with those group chat leaks, they are on the watch for containment.

00:18:14.900 And containment is persistent.

00:18:16.140 In the UK, in the US, I just did a stream on this about media and political containment in the UK.

00:18:20.540 It's a very long stream because there's a lot of it going on.

00:18:23.280 But they're worried that Vance, because he worked for Palantir before and they're suspicious about Peter Thiel, because, you know, any guy who talks about the Antichrist that much and then dodges the question when he's asked whether or not he is the Antichrist, fair enough, suspicions.

00:18:35.420 I've met Thiel, he's an interesting chap, but, you know, he might be a candidate.

00:18:38.520 The idea that he works for a giant surveillance corporation before, the idea that he's had assistance moving up his career, and that his opinions on foreign policy have evolved over time, his opinions on Trump himself have evolved over time.

00:18:52.160 People are being hyper-vigilant as to whether or not Vance is a Piper candidate, as Hillary Clinton once said.

00:18:57.600 And so what I think they're trying to do is they're trying to get a better Republican Party, or at least a Republican Party, that is more amenable to their concerns about immigration and foreign policy.

00:19:07.020 We may disagree or agree with them on some or all of those points.

00:19:10.580 However, I do think that they are needlessly ostracizing themselves in the MAGA coalition when they go so far as to back, you know, Kanye or Kamala or Gavin Newsom, whereas they not just critique Vance's positions, not just critique Trump's positions, but say it's over and they insult Vance's family as well.

00:19:31.060 Because if Vance's final thing, if I might, one of the main things that's turned people against H-1B visas is just the way Indians behave online. 1.00

00:19:38.560 Like, they are ethnocentric, they insult white people, they glorified the death of Charlie Kirk and that woman that got knocked out in Cincinnati by the black mob. 0.91

00:19:46.620 You know, they're very, they swarm, they are insulting, and one of the major irritants was when that Indian woman came up at the TPUSA event, 1.00

00:19:58.540 monopolized Vance's time, asked about 10 questions, interrupted him answering his own question, and made it personal by saying,

00:20:06.400 you sold us legal immigrants a dream, how dare you rip it away from us, and why are you erasing your children and your wife's religious and racial identity?

00:20:13.860 And so when you do that, when you do make it personal for Vance's wife, you know, his kids, you will get the administration's ears turned away from you, and you will be considered an enemy faction.

00:20:24.240 And so you will no longer be able to transfer your chimping into political leverage. 1.00

00:20:29.020 So, if you are trying to play it smart, if you are trying to get Trump to walk away from supporting H-1Bs, which you should be very clear about that, you absolutely should. 1.00

00:20:37.920 Take it from me, we get 250,000 Indians every year, we've just had a river in Oxfordshire turn to the Ganges, it bloody sucks. 1.00

00:20:44.840 Make sure that you aren't, in your chimping, throwing so many turds that you estrange the other side. 1.00

00:20:50.780 They just walk away because they don't want to get covered in your shit. 0.99

00:20:54.140 Right, well, it's kind of, it's the classic trope of like, there's the four quadrants of the political compass, and all four sides are saying, 1.00

00:21:03.860 when society collapses, my ideology is going to rise from the ashes.

00:21:07.140 So it's kind of the same thing with, I think, the specific groups of people we're referring to,

00:21:11.720 is they just assume that if there is a power vacuum in the GOP, if Trump gets out of the, you know, something happens, he's ousted, etc., etc.,

00:21:18.540 that their insurgent ideology is going to be the one that like, takes control of the car.

00:21:25.040 Are you, like, are you new around here, if you think that's the case?

00:21:27.840 Like, do you know how absurd Trump, it was for Trump to have the opportunity to be the nominee in 2016?

00:21:34.500 Like, it was a very, very big deal.

00:21:37.560 But the thing is, he had, he won over a lot of like, just normal Americans.

00:21:41.960 The thing with these ideologies that are being pushed now, that are, again, people assume that if the GOP has a power vacuum,

00:21:49.060 that their ideology will take place.

00:21:51.160 Most of these people that are making up Trump's base won't be as responsive to like, your very online ideas,

00:21:56.820 even if a lot of those ideas I support, it's not going to like, it's not going to play in Peoria as like, as the, as the phrasing is.

00:22:03.920 So it's like, it's a very online thing.

00:22:06.720 Yeah, I mean, with that, you made the point at the end, the lady who felt like her, her, her immigrate,

00:22:16.380 that she was invited, she was invited to the country and was rug pulled effectively is what she was saying.

00:22:20.540 I have this tweet here.

00:22:22.140 This is from a immigration lawyer who has just been crashing out.

00:22:27.060 He'd been crashing out because look, this is the beautiful thing.

00:22:29.620 So, you know, Trump, obviously horrible, horrible messaging this week is a very bad look,

00:22:32.580 but the administration is actually going up on the H-1B system, specifically on abuse quite extensively.

00:22:40.480 And my evidence for this isn't the government because, you know, a lot of people are starting to question

00:22:45.160 where they're getting a lot of their data from.

00:22:47.580 That's either here, they're under there.

00:22:48.740 Just look at how the people that are on the other side are reacting.

00:22:52.960 So this was Anna Gorsuch, Gorsuch, I think so you pronounce her last name.

00:22:57.900 She's a immigration lawyer and she has, she's been crashing out.

00:23:01.840 I've been loving looking at her Twitter because she's giving you good insight into what the

00:23:05.720 environment right now is for immigration in the United States.

00:23:09.660 I'll just read her tweet here.

00:23:11.960 I cannot take this anymore.

00:23:13.500 Neither can my clients make it stop.

00:23:15.420 If you plan to end it, lay out your proposals and be kind enough to allow us to plan.

00:23:20.800 Let us sort out how many people get back and give the immigration attorneys you so desperately

00:23:25.780 wish would lose everything and die to find a new career. 0.97

00:23:29.260 I'm a heritage American.

00:23:30.580 Does that matter at all?

00:23:32.120 And I never helped anyone break the law.

00:23:34.140 I helped them follow it in or out legal or not enough.

00:23:37.900 Pick one.

00:23:38.720 My career will die.

00:23:40.220 I will be homeless.

00:23:41.180 My rescue dog will have to go back to foster care and MAGA will throw a parade. 1.00

00:23:46.120 Can we, can we edit that into a speech bubble coming out of one tongue?

00:23:49.680 You know, when he's thrown on the steps off the theater and regains his consciousness.

00:23:52.840 He's like begging to be allowed to, to stay in Rohan.

00:23:57.620 Are we, are we throwing the parade?

00:23:59.900 I mean, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta consult the group chats, but is the, uh, the giant

00:24:04.900 balloons, you know, the tinsel, um, you know, so she, yeah, she's responding this whole crash.

00:24:12.140 And then at the end, she says, I have no idea why any immigrant would choose to stay here

00:24:15.580 in the face of this bleep.

00:24:17.520 Um, she's responding to Carolyn, Carolyn Levitt, just saying the labor secretary is going to

00:24:22.760 try and end H1B visa abuse.

00:24:25.200 We need to, we need to like, we literally need the, you know, the, the concerned wojack

00:24:29.600 and the smiling chat.

00:24:32.420 Literally.

00:24:33.760 Yeah.

00:24:34.280 And if you go to her Twitter, it's still, she's just constantly just losing her mind. 0.88

00:24:39.200 Cause her entire, her entire career is, if it's immigration law, I mean, if you know

00:24:42.540 anything about immigration law, like it's just people trying to take advantage of the

00:24:46.740 government and our systems.

00:24:47.660 And then these lawyers come in and sort of institutionalize that scamming and make it

00:24:51.580 a thing.

00:24:52.460 Um, yeah, she's just, she's completely melting down. 0.67

00:24:57.920 Um, I'll put a few of her, her tweets up.

00:25:00.020 Cause again, this is just, this is good insights.

00:25:01.720 This is good insights into the reality on the ground.

00:25:04.360 Cause people, again, people are dooming so much on, on Twitter, online, online Twitter.

00:25:09.760 Um, this is the reality on the ground is that, look, you know, we're at net negative

00:25:15.620 migration, which would have been unfathomable to two or three years, even Trump won.

00:25:20.360 Like that was not on the table because people for the longest time, I remember this vividly

00:25:24.040 is if you would go on any sort of like conservative podcast or show and say, I think our immigration

00:25:29.400 policy should be net zero migration.

00:25:31.580 People be like, what?

00:25:32.900 Like, what are you saying?

00:25:33.480 Like, what are you like Hitler? 0.51

00:25:34.440 Like, what's wrong with you?

00:25:35.220 And then now we're at net negative migration.

00:25:38.420 I mean, it's like totally, totally insane.

00:25:40.020 And people are still crossing their arms.

00:25:41.520 People still want more.

00:25:42.480 And this kind of goes back to the idea of like, look, the, for some reason, a lot of

00:25:48.140 people are looking to throw a Hail Marys, but the reality is we're going to have to move

00:25:53.020 the ball up the field about three to five yards at a time.

00:25:56.080 It's going to be just short run plays, but you're consistently moving the ball right

00:25:59.460 down the field rather than going for a Hail Mary, it's going to get picked off half the

00:26:04.140 time.

00:26:04.680 And that seems to be the case.

00:26:06.420 You know, your Hail Mary would be running a, you know, like a rapper for, for, for president.

00:26:12.740 And, you know, he says a few base things every once in a while.

00:26:15.540 So everyone's like, all right, fair enough.

00:26:17.160 And then he throws an interception.

00:26:20.440 Yeah.

00:26:21.480 Brings a chocolate milk glass and a net on a TV show. 0.65

00:26:24.660 And his wife's naked all the time. 1.00

00:26:27.740 It's, you know, that's neither here nor there.

00:26:29.660 I'm just saying you throw a lot of picks.

00:26:31.120 If you're a, you know, you turn into a, you turn into a con cap and you start throwing

00:26:35.480 a lot of picks, uh, if you try to go for Hail Mary.

00:26:38.000 So I don't think it's the best idea to run a candidate for president whose attitude to

00:26:43.240 foreign policy changes on whether or not he's watched 21 Jump Street that day.

00:26:47.340 It's probably not the most prudent pick.

00:26:50.660 Yeah.

00:26:50.940 It's one of the Hail Mary pass goes, I agree with moving the football down the field, but

00:26:54.300 allow me to introduce a slightly more nerdy, less sportsmanly analogy into it.

00:26:58.140 It's all well and good making incremental gains towards getting a touchdown.

00:27:03.180 But if Bain comes on the pitch and blows it all up, you know, and that, that is something

00:27:07.340 that the Republicans have to be wary of.

00:27:08.820 It's not just about the midterms.

00:27:09.900 It's if you guys lose the next time around, if J.D.

00:27:12.740 Vance is not president for eight consecutive years, America screwed.

00:27:17.120 Just is. 0.98

00:27:17.780 Yeah.

00:27:17.820 Because the Democrats have always already realized if they just open the borders and import

00:27:21.860 10 million illegals over a four year period, rob a stamp citizenship, uh, give mass 1.00

00:27:27.020 amnesty to the ones that are already here and enfranchise all of them, then you can demographically

00:27:32.680 gerrymander a bunch of states, be permanently blue, no matter who.

00:27:35.580 And this is actually the thing I wanted to pick up on in Vance's clip that you, that

00:27:39.240 you, uh, quoted from earlier.

00:27:41.460 Yes, he's absolutely right.

00:27:42.880 Democrats let in, you know, 13 million illegals.

00:27:46.160 Republicans also allowed it to happen too, by the way.

00:27:48.960 But something both Democrats and Republicans have agreed on that has put downward pressure

00:27:53.200 on housing, on jobs, is yet again, and this is part of the conversation about H-1Bs, legal

00:27:58.220 migration.

00:27:59.220 Because I happen to notice that if the Democrats have been relying on American voters being

00:28:06.820 replaced, um, as, there was a New York Times article, I think it was like by Stacey Abrams

00:28:11.340 or something, like four years ago, saying we can replace them.

00:28:13.700 If they've been relying on American voters to be replaced by a coalition of, uh, resentful

00:28:20.660 outsiders and welfare-dependent immigrants, then the Republican Party has been the consent 1.00

00:28:27.380 manufacturing plant for that to happen under the guise of cheap labor and being lobbied

00:28:31.800 by corporations who employ Americans to then generate profits, the proceeds of which they

00:28:36.700 use to lobby politicians to import their cheaper replacements.

00:28:39.260 And this conversation has been going on in the last week, of course, um, in relation

00:28:42.860 to Ben Shapiro's comments about housing, because conspicuously when he complained about Zoram

00:28:46.820 Mandani being elected in New York, he didn't mention that it's a product of immigration.

00:28:51.440 He mentioned it was purely a product of, like, ideological leftism and anti-Semitism, partially

00:28:55.120 of which is true, of course.

00:28:56.520 And then when he recommended, uh, policies that would stop young people from being so dispossessed 1.00

00:29:02.700 of not owning property because housing is too expensive, he said to cut regulations and

00:29:06.940 build more homes.

00:29:07.380 Now that's fine, I don't think New York needs more ugly high-rises, frankly, but the regulation

00:29:11.880 is a very real point.

00:29:13.200 The Biden administration made it much harder to buy homes, actually.

00:29:16.180 Matt Walker did a really good video on this the other day.

00:29:18.120 But do you know who needs the homes?

00:29:20.080 People.

00:29:20.800 And do you know how you get more people in America, especially if the majority of Americans

00:29:24.780 are not having enough kids to replace their own population?

00:29:27.460 Hundreds of thousands of Indians via H-1Bs in major cities that are not just sucking up 1.00

00:29:31.980 job opportunities but need somewhere to live.

00:29:33.700 And so, pricing and pushing Americans out of the towns and cities that they grew up in.

00:29:38.280 And you know what's not going to win them over to the Republican side, especially come

00:29:42.140 2028, if there's this massive faction war going on in the Republican base?

00:29:46.560 It's advocating for more H-1B visas, which Ben Shapiro did minutes before defending his

00:29:51.420 comments on trigonometry.

00:29:52.180 And then, when people complain that they can't get a job, they can't own a home, and that

00:29:56.280 their culture feels alien to them because it's been turned into Mumbai or Calcutta, just

00:30:01.440 going, have you considered moving somewhere cheaper?

00:30:03.560 Like, why should you be chased across your own map, like it's a PvP server, and compete

00:30:08.480 with the entire world in a labor pool and for homes and jobs in your own country?

00:30:12.940 Yeah, I mean, it's, back to the analogy of moving the football down the field, it's quite

00:30:17.460 easy when it's just 11-on-11, but when they start introducing hundreds of thousands of

00:30:20.760 Indians on the field, it gets a little bit more difficult.

00:30:25.860 Ben Shapiro comment was really, because he actually used a similar line in the past, I

00:30:31.000 believe it was his conversation with Tucker Carlson, like, way back, 2017.

00:30:34.540 And he was effectively saying, with the economy, he was saying, look, we can try and re-industrialize

00:30:41.780 the Rust Belt, but the reality is these gigs probably aren't coming back, and it would

00:30:45.500 be best if people adapted, they get a U-Haul, these sorts of things.

00:30:50.800 And that caused a lot of uproar, because, you know, this was a peak populism at the time,

00:30:56.480 like the Bannon kind of style populism, I think it was at its fever pitch.

00:30:59.540 And, um, yeah, I remember that line, and so when I saw people freaking out about this

00:31:06.880 new, or I say freaking out, I mean, they were justifiably crashing out over this new Ben

00:31:11.180 Shapiro quote, I thought he was saying the same thing.

00:31:13.740 I was like, I thought we've already had this conversation, like, we know he's, this is his

00:31:16.920 economic policy, he's not, like, a protectionist, like, we know these things.

00:31:19.900 Yeah, and then I watched the clip, and I'm like, oh, no, he's not even talking about, like,

00:31:24.220 tariffs or anything, he's talking about people, like, he's saying that if New York City

00:31:28.960 sucks, like, it's because of the immigrants, he's like, just try to move somewhere with 1.00

00:31:33.420 less immigrants, is that your solution? 0.99

00:31:35.940 And then, the, okay, the obvious has to be pointed out, um, this, even leftists are

00:31:41.760 pointing this out, it's just so true, is like, he would never say that about Israel, he would

00:31:47.100 never say that you do not have a claim to that land, you should just move, um, he would

00:31:52.180 never ever say that, but for the United States, it's a bit of a different story, saying, well,

00:31:57.020 you know, Americans, you guys move a lot, like, the chuck wagons and everything, and 0.95

00:32:00.780 it was like, because that was kind of under our own volition, I shouldn't have to trudge

00:32:05.000 into the wild west, because, like, my entire neighborhood turned, you know, Urdu, speaking, 0.51

00:32:10.480 like, overnight, and I can't find a gig, and my car's getting broken into all the time, I

00:32:14.680 should, that, that's not a reason I should have to move, it's just absolutely ridiculous,

00:32:18.740 and then, yeah, I mean, again, I don't know, would he ever make that point about Israel?

00:32:22.260 I don't think so, um, that the entire argument is contingent on, um, well, you know, we, this

00:32:27.780 is our native land from 2,000 years ago, these sorts of things, but Americans aren't allowed 1.00

00:32:31.400 to have that intrinsic connection to our land, and nor are the English, really, I mean, the

00:32:35.580 English is obviously a bit stronger case with, uh, you know, thousands of years of presence

00:32:39.980 there, but even at the United States, I mean, where we are, the native population, the heritage

00:32:44.300 Americans, there was no America before we were here, it didn't even have the name, et cetera,

00:32:50.880 et cetera, I mean, everyone watching knows these things, but, yeah, like, to act like

00:32:55.320 people don't have very deep roots where they live is ridiculous, that's, again, if he's

00:33:02.420 talking about the economy, that's a separate argument, it's not even really personal, it's

00:33:05.620 just like, okay, yeah, maybe, maybe we do need to start having conversations about, like,

00:33:10.240 um, protectionism, these sorts of things, but no, he's, he's specifically saying just flee,

00:33:15.580 every time, every time immigrants take over a city, just flee, um, really grim stuff, really 1.00

00:33:21.220 just nasty, nasty stuff, especially, yeah, like I said, with the context of, sort of, his

00:33:25.260 position on other issues, um, globally, it's insulting.

00:33:30.020 If the Israelis, if the Jews have a claim to indigeneity in Israel, despite the 2,000 year 0.93

00:33:37.060 gap between the fall of the Second Temple and reoccupying the land in 1948, hey, fine, you

00:33:42.640 know, understandable, if that holds true, then the same claim can be applied to heritage

00:33:48.560 Americans whose ancestors, you know, stepped off the Mayflower or have been in various colonies,

00:33:54.060 cities, towns for hundreds of years, and have voted against being replaced in those cities

00:33:59.620 and towns, and instead from both Republicans and Democrats, received high levels of not

00:34:04.140 just illegal, but legal migration that has made it unaffordable to do so, and just made their

00:34:08.800 towns and cities unfamiliar, as you said, when they voted against it, it's not their fault,

00:34:14.560 it's the fault of the donor class, the corporations, and the pundits that make excuses for it, who

00:34:20.520 then, ironically, are undermining the demographic and cultural givens upon which an economy rests.

00:34:26.640 I did a really long video on this on my own channel, reading from various authors like Eric

00:34:31.620 Kaufman and Christopher Lash, but it boils down to this. The economy comes from the word

00:34:36.320 oikos, which means home, which means that the economy and prosperity rests on the families

00:34:44.600 that make up a state, the culture that they pass down across generations, and the high trust

00:34:50.900 society, which is the enabling condition for free enterprise, free markets, free exchange of goods

00:34:56.560 with very little enforcement cost or theft. And so if you change out that population, if you change

00:35:01.640 out their culture for expedient economic gains, you not just destroy the economy, but then you

00:35:05.520 destroy the culture and the country in which the economy is thriving. And as you mentioned,

00:35:11.440 it's not just that Ben knows about the claims of indigeneity in Israel, it's that I happen to

00:35:17.320 notice that Israel isn't importing 100,000 Indians a year, H-1B visas, to fill their tech sector.

00:35:22.180 Instead, they are, unironically, they're developing the space lasers thing. Like, we were talking to

00:35:26.860 a guy when we went to the Israel trip, and he was like, oh yeah, we're developing lasers to shoot

00:35:30.460 down the missiles that are being shot over, because, you know, the Iron Dome's really expensive, but if

00:35:34.560 you can, with AI in a microsecond, focus lasers on the same point in a missile, you can blow it up.

00:35:40.040 And everyone was like, they're real? Wow. Okay. All right, then. Yeah, turns out they don't need the

00:35:44.300 whole of Mumbai to develop that. They're just doing it in, like, Tel Aviv or wherever else.

00:35:48.020 Interesting. So, weird that Ben would then advocate

00:35:51.600 more H-1B visas in the US, and not draw the connection to downward pressure placed on housing

00:35:56.140 by importing hundreds of thousands of people, especially who have higher birth rates than

00:35:59.540 the native population, and need somewhere to live. And this is the losing vision of the

00:36:03.000 Robbuckham Party, mind you. I think this is why there's a battle for MAGA at the moment,

00:36:07.800 and Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes are, like, proxy figures. They might have said some things

00:36:11.500 that are insulting and odious and etc., but what it really is is a battle over whether or not

00:36:16.580 J.D. Vance will be the successor to MAGA, because J.D. Vance's vision is completely different

00:36:20.380 to this, because in his NatCon and then Republican Convention acceptance speech, they're basically

00:36:24.120 the same speech. He said, America is not an idea. It is a nation, which means a people,

00:36:30.160 which means there are an American people with roots and ancestry and a claim to the land.

00:36:35.140 They have been laid to rest in that Kentucky plot that he said that his wife will be laid

00:36:40.380 to rest with him alongside his ancestors who, you know, fought in the Civil War and dug out

00:36:45.820 the coal and worked in the factories, and he wanted to return manufacturing, energy production

00:36:53.520 and well-paying jobs to give dignity to those people who built up that land and acted as

00:36:58.260 its custodians for its culture from birth right through to death when their children laid them 0.76

00:37:02.740 to rest in their ancestral cemeteries. What a beautiful vision. It's not just economically

00:37:07.160 coherent. It is a narrative that each American has a place in, and their part in that narrative

00:37:13.740 is irreplaceable. It is a heroic story. Whereas all Shapiro's offering is not a call to adventure.

00:37:19.340 It is not a reclaiming of your birthright. It is retreat. And you know what? Retreat is

00:37:23.300 not a good sales pitch to young people for conservatives.

00:37:26.500 It's doubling down on deracination, because that's like the biggest, that's the biggest

00:37:31.220 thing I think plaguing young men specifically is complete lack of identity. They don't know

00:37:36.920 who they are. They don't have anything eternal to hang on to.

00:37:39.320 Is like a tragedy for Jews? Then it's becoming a diaspora in your own country will be a tragedy 1.00

00:37:43.560 for Americans.

00:37:44.720 Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, we have one more American story here to hit.

00:37:50.280 It kind of ties right in. Actually, it ties in 100%. It's Dinesh D'Souza. I'll just read

00:37:57.460 his tweet real quick. We can put this away quite quickly before we get into our British segment.

00:38:02.800 How ironic it will be if a brown American like Zizek actually helps to fix education and raise the 1.00

00:38:10.040 prospects of white kids, while all the professional whiteys on X continue their idle boasting about how

00:38:16.640 they too could get us to the moon, quote, just like some white dudes did in 1969. 0.76

00:38:21.380 This is like, this is a next level resentment. That's, he was PO'd writing. It's like he was

00:38:30.460 mad. I don't know. I don't know what happened, but that was like a, this, that was like insane

00:38:35.740 mask off moment. I, I know what happened. Just close my ticket, bro. So I have done a video about

00:38:45.400 this. Dinesh replied to Tyler Olivera's post about him not wanting to put his documentary

00:38:52.620 out about the poop throwing festival because he was getting doxxed and harassed and threatened

00:38:56.240 by a bunch of Indians. Like his phone number got released. The Indian press was saying that

00:39:00.240 his non-existent sister had an OnlyFans. Like it was crazy. Dinesh replied to Tyler's post

00:39:06.200 saying he had been threatened and didn't want to put out the poop festival documentary by

00:39:10.160 saying, look at this festival. Future belongs to the poop throwers. And having a graph of 1.00

00:39:17.180 Asian Americans, not all of whom are Indians, by the way, there's Koreans and Japanese fitted

00:39:21.100 in there too, out-earning white Americans on average. Now what, number one, that is a problem

00:39:26.060 in your own country. If the, if the heritage diaspora of your own country are being out-earned

00:39:29.900 by mobile minorities, you should probably go, there might be a cultural problem in certain 1.00

00:39:34.300 areas of white America. Not in the same way that Vivek, you know, denigrates American culture

00:39:38.880 and says you need to be Steve Urkel rather than a jock kissing the captain of the cheer

00:39:43.200 team, which is basically the American dream. See, Taylor Swift, you belong with me. But

00:39:47.380 you should probably address that rather than gloat about it. And it's very telling the thought

00:39:52.300 to took the side of random Indian villagers of literally eating cow excrement because they 0.94

00:39:56.100 think it cures cancer over his supposed fellow American who is getting doxxed and harassed by

00:40:01.260 said Indians that Dinesh doesn't know, who are Hindus when Dinesh is a Christian, and when

00:40:05.520 Dinesh has made an entire career for decades preaching colourblind, liberal, individualistic

00:40:09.520 meritocracy. You know, I used to listen to Dinesh's Young America Foundation talks back

00:40:13.400 in 2017, back when we were all at the, you know, the left of the real racist stage of

00:40:16.940 the discourse, innocent times. But now he has a total crash out, unprompted, in discourse

00:40:22.060 that doesn't involve them, and then doubles down again using anti-white slurs to protect 0.50

00:40:25.680 the fact that H-1B visas can continue bringing Indians into the United States. And so, despite

00:40:30.980 him cancelling guys like Sam Francis and the V-Dare crowd back in the 90s with the book

00:40:35.240 The End of Racism, turns out that they were right. Everyone's a blood and soil nationalist

00:40:39.900 for somewhere, and for Dinesh, it's India rather than America. Which is why, I don't

00:40:44.240 know if you've seen this, but Vauban Books, the publishers of Camp of the Saints, the guy

00:40:47.560 that did the retranslation, they put out a meme of Fred from Scooby-Doo lifting the

00:40:52.100 mask on a ghost, and the ghost costume is the end of racism, and if you lift it up, it's

00:40:56.300 just Camp of the Saints. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I mean, look, all these classic characters

00:41:03.000 of conservatism that we're all, you know, we know and love, we grew up with, this is

00:41:07.080 going to keep happening as the what is an American question discussion advances further and further

00:41:12.200 as we're going to be losing a lot of these guys, because this isn't what they signed

00:41:15.560 up for, this isn't what they fostered. They wanted a very kind of safe conservatism that

00:41:22.360 really just functioned as opposition, where now guys like Vance, like you articulated

00:41:26.960 earlier, who are putting together a vision of what America can and should be, rather

00:41:32.340 than just like what policies he's opposed to that the Democrats are proposing. Part of

00:41:37.240 that, you know, vision that he's developing is he's having to address the question, what

00:41:41.320 is an American? The reason that question has to be addressed is because if we really are

00:41:44.420 expanding our deportation, our deportation programs, denaturalization is going to naturally

00:41:50.960 have to come in into the conversation. And then the question is, well, who do you denaturalize?

00:41:55.560 Because we've been told this entire time that as soon as someone gets off, you know, an

00:41:59.320 airplane at JFK and they get their paperwork signed, they're just as American as someone

00:42:03.640 that is a direct descendant of, you know, George Washington or something. So again, as that

00:42:08.680 conversation progresses, a lot of these guys are going to be kind of coming unglued a little

00:42:14.560 bit. So it's very sad to see. We love denaturalization. I mean, look, I like, I mean, I grew

00:42:19.500 up obviously adjusting a lot of his, his work. So, I mean, I'm not going to, I hate

00:42:23.160 when people, um, just start slamming these guys. It's like, well, to a degree, you should

00:42:28.940 credit them if, if they helped you along your, your sort of intellectual development

00:42:33.140 as, as a young person. But at the same time, it's like, this was completely out of line.

00:42:37.720 He calls whiteys. Like, what are we doing here? That's like a, that's like an Indian version

00:42:43.040 of like a Kanye crash out is when an Indian just gets like pushed to the limit and they just 0.68

00:42:47.180 start calling people whiteys and like, like boasting at the poop throwing festival. They're 0.99

00:42:50.980 actually kind of sick. You know, you know, the, uh, the meme of the Ninja Turtles being walked

00:42:56.720 along as like baby turtles by Master Splinter and then they're all grown up and they're walking

00:43:00.500 Master Splinter along. That's, that's us, but Dinesh towards a deportation flight. Literally,

00:43:05.940 literally, it's like, dude, I'm sorry you got us this far. I have some bad news for you.

00:43:10.460 What makes you, buddy? Extra leg room.

00:43:12.200 Yeah. Thank you, dude.

00:43:13.820 Joke. It's a joke. It's a joke. No, it's a joke. I genuinely liked, I liked Dinesh. It's,

00:43:18.620 it's all a joke.

00:43:19.120 I, you know what I really appreciate? He did that debate a while ago. It was with Fuentes,

00:43:22.500 right? It was on, um, yeah, yeah, it was, no, it was, I didn't watch the full thing,

00:43:26.620 but I saw the clip of like one kind of obnoxious guy who I presume is a griper phoning in and 1.00

00:43:31.420 just saying he had a question for Dinesh and just started shouting, do not redeem. And Dinesh

00:43:34.960 was laughing really hard. Like he took it on the chin. Like this is, this is the thing,

00:43:38.600 right? If, if Dinesh sees this, this is what we actually want. We want to be able to joke

00:43:42.120 about our differences. We don't want constant foreign ethno politics playing a part in our

00:43:48.080 politics. We don't want a double standard of everyone being allowed to play identity politics,

00:43:51.580 but then heritage Americans, white Brits, et cetera, aren't allowed to have to agitate for

00:43:55.960 their own interests in their own country. And just being frank, we just think poof-throwing 0.98

00:44:01.340 festivals are disgusting. And so we should have our borders open to areas of the world that

00:44:04.600 practice it. Sorry. And you should, you should think that's gross as well, considering you're

00:44:08.400 a Christian. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I don't want to hear any talking, any crap about him not eating 0.97

00:44:12.760 with his hands. If you're okay with the poop, they're invested. It's even worse. It's even worse. 0.98

00:44:16.920 Also like, yeah, I think at the very, at the very least, I would just appreciate if guys with names

00:44:21.400 like Dinesh and Vivek didn't operate with a huge chip on their shoulder. Like, yeah, you can keep the

00:44:25.660 name, just drop the chip. That's all I'm asking. Be like Nailen Haley. Absolute patriot. He said he is

00:44:31.240 setting the tone. Everyone should be like him, quite frankly. You think even the whiteys could 0.96

00:44:34.820 learn a thing or two from him. But, uh, anyway, with that, we'll get into the, uh, some of the

00:44:40.840 news out of the UK this week. Um, not much good news coming out. Um, unfortunately it's been a while

00:44:46.980 since I've seen some, like a white pill out of the UK. Um, I'm seeing this headline here.

00:44:52.280 Go ahead. Oh, I was going to say, speaking of denaturalization and deportation, the news story

00:44:57.320 out of the UK this week is whether or not we're going to bring Shemima Begum back. This actually has 1.00

00:45:00.740 implications for the U S because Trump administration is currently negotiating with

00:45:05.840 the new Syrian president, the jihadist who's renamed himself, uh, Ahmad Al Sharar. Trump was like, you

00:45:12.740 know, he has a rough background. Everyone has a rough background. He called him a handsome young

00:45:17.100 man and he joked how many waves he had. Cause he said, you can't tell from that part of the world.

00:45:20.460 I mean, like Chad move probably shouldn't be, you know, yeah, I understand you need to play

00:45:25.280 strong man politics. You need to court these kinds of people, but he's not the best guy to pal around

00:45:29.940 with. However, what Trump's trying to do at the moment is negotiate with the Kurds who run parts

00:45:34.640 of Northern Syria because new president Syria, jihadist in question wants complete jurisdiction

00:45:40.820 over it. There's a lot of oil in the area. And of course the Americans would quite like to lock

00:45:44.800 the oil down and also keep the Russians out on getting it because that was one of the original 0.99

00:45:48.520 reasons for the conflict in Syria. Tim's talked about this a lot before it was building the, the

00:45:52.980 Qatar Turkey pipeline through Syria in partnership with Russia. Anyway. So what they want to do is I'm going to

00:45:57.800 close down this massive, what they call a refugee camp, but it's literally like a jihadist training

00:46:01.720 camp where all of the ex ISIS detainees have just been milling about in the desert in Syria. There's

00:46:06.920 like 30,000 of them. One of them is this girl called Shamima Begum. She was a, an ISIS bride who 0.92

00:46:12.500 absconded from the UK with, with two other women who were born and raised in London and magically the

00:46:18.560 soil didn't work and she wasn't integrated. She was, she was born in Bethnal Green, which is that,

00:46:22.360 do you remember we were talking before about the Muslim area that had the guys in balaclavas 1.00

00:46:27.800 through it? It had the, the tube sign in Bengali exactly there. It's literally like a Bengali slum, 0.86

00:46:32.680 right? So she traveled to Syria to join ISIS in 2015. She ended up marrying a Dutch Islamic convert

00:46:37.580 called Yago Redjik, had three kids, all of whom died because you know, they're living in the middle

00:46:43.840 of nowhere. Um, hygiene isn't exactly a great thing when you're practicing the habits of seventh century

00:46:48.800 Arabia. And she was stripped ironically, um, in a sort of subcontinental ethnic feud of her citizenship

00:46:55.960 by the home secretary who himself was a Pakistani Muslim, Sajid Javid. We just have a revolving door

00:47:01.020 of Pakistanis running the UK home office over here in 2019 because he claimed that giving her

00:47:06.340 citizenship would not be conducive to the public good. Now, the good thing about the story was

00:47:11.100 actually it kept getting upheld. So her lawyers, um, kept contesting that, you know, she had been

00:47:17.300 groomed. She was actually the victim. She should be brought back and tried. But because Bangladesh has a 1.00

00:47:22.920 just sanguinist citizenship law, so it's by blood, it means that she would be hypothetically eligible

00:47:28.100 for Bangladeshi citizenship. So she would not be stateless if she was deprived of her British

00:47:33.080 citizenship. So the High Court upheld it. The Supreme Court wouldn't hear it. She's left to rot in the

00:47:38.700 desert. And we now have a precedent for denaturalizing and deporting people if we can allocate them

00:47:43.040 citizenship elsewhere. The problem now is that because the Trump administration are trying to

00:47:48.300 negotiate the close of this camp, there's a lot of pressure on the UK government, even on the likes

00:47:53.300 of Reform UK, who are trying to make inroads with the Trump administration, because Nigel Farage

00:47:58.040 suggested he would be up for this. But there's been a lot of pressure placed to bring Shemima

00:48:01.640 Begum back rather than letting her rot in the desert, because they want to close this camp. 1.00

00:48:06.380 And so there's this thing that's called, like, the Independent Commission on UK Counterterrorism.

00:48:10.560 It's one of these NGOs that tries to posit itself as an independent, neutral body.

00:48:14.200 But the members of this include Dominic Grieve, who was a former Conservative MP and Attorney

00:48:19.820 General, massively anti-Brexit, got kicked out of the Conservative Party by Boris Johnson

00:48:23.200 in 2019, because he was too left-wing even for Boris Johnson, who was just chairing an

00:48:28.080 Islamophobia definition board for the Home Office. So trying to criminalize, like, criticism

00:48:34.440 of Islam. And Saeed Avorsi, who was a baroness, independent, but used to be the chair of the Conservative

00:48:40.740 Party, whose chief of staff ran a unit in the Home Office called RICU. So it was the Research

00:48:46.260 Information Communications Unit. And it's basically like the Department of Justice's

00:48:49.920 Community Relations Service, where whenever a terror attack happens, they control the front

00:48:53.720 covers of newspapers, they bus imams out to the site of the terror attack for photo ops,

00:48:58.420 they feed the families of the victims lines to say on the media, and they staged, for example,

00:49:04.740 in the aftermath of the 27 Manchester Arena attack, the big concert with Ariana Grande that

00:49:08.740 said, don't look back in anger. Like, that was centrally planned by the government to stop

00:49:12.260 you from blaming Islam. The worst example of this as well, 2014, there was an ISIS beheading

00:49:17.260 of an aid worker called Anand Henning, and the Sun newspaper ran a photo of a woman in a

00:49:22.480 Union Jack hijab that had been prefabricated by a group called Breakthrough Media with the

00:49:27.760 Home Office. RICU called it Our Product. It had been made as part of a charity called Inspire,

00:49:34.260 with a woman called Sara Khan, who went on to become the Home Office's, like, independent

00:49:39.780 extremism commissioner. You know, similar titles here. Her sister was running RICU at the time.

00:49:44.720 RICU was ran by the chief of staff to Saeed Avorsi, and she's now part of this committee. They're

00:49:50.340 saying, oh, bring Shemima Begin back. It just so happens that you constantly run defence for 0.97

00:49:56.620 actual jihadist attacks and terrorists. And you say, don't you dare be Islamophobic. And you

00:50:03.000 state money to constantly gaslight the population. And they're saying that if she's left in the 0.94

00:50:06.980 desert, this will basically be Britain's Guantanamo Bay, right? It will be untenable according to

00:50:12.080 international human rights law to have this jihadist rotting out there because she absconded 1.00

00:50:17.000 from our country, betrayed it, and tried to join ISIS. Bear in mind, she was part of the morality

00:50:21.100 police, literally, like, watching as people were getting their heads cut off. She was apparently,

00:50:25.080 according to witnesses, sewing suicide vests together. Like, absolutely reprehensible evil

00:50:29.740 person. And now we've got the press, politicians, ex-politicians, independent bodies, lawyers,

00:50:36.320 et cetera, all lobbying to bring this woman back to, what, try her and have us house her 0.79

00:50:41.000 at our expense until she inevitably gets released and, like, joins another jihadist group or something?

00:50:46.040 She's totally unrepentant. Why should she be here? 0.99

00:50:48.240 Yeah. Well, this is like, this is, there's actually the UK, a rare instance where I think

00:50:54.720 the UK might actually have a more based, um, sort of standard on this sort of thing because the US

00:50:59.640 repatriates these citizens from these camps. It happened a lot. And I think in the first Trump

00:51:03.940 term, um, versus the UK, as far as I know, zero repatriations, um, they just stripped the

00:51:10.800 citizenship. Like the, the Americans lost it. There might be one actually. So the guy who interviewed

00:51:16.000 Shemima Begum a couple of years ago, uh, for, I think it was ITV has been doing the rounds and

00:51:22.980 they've been asking him, well, do you think she should come back? Cause you know, personally,

00:51:25.920 you still text her and that. And he said, it's funny. Apparently one of the members of a terror

00:51:30.840 group called the terror twins has already been brought back, but just nobody's been told.

00:51:35.720 So the government, much like when they were importing the like Afghan, uh, interpreters that 1.00

00:51:40.240 ended up being Taliban fighters and drug dealers and rapists, the government have been hiding

00:51:45.000 it from the public again. Like they've been hiding the fact that they've been importing 0.97

00:51:47.720 Palestinians over as well on chartered flights from Jordan, giving them full scholarships to

00:51:52.120 UK universities. I'm sure they're going to make good use of their engineering degree

00:51:55.340 at our expense. And they've just been doing it by the hundreds and just not telling us.

00:51:59.000 So I wouldn't be shocked if eventually she gets brought back and we just like find out about it

00:52:02.300 later. I mean, that would, that would destroy a very base precedent. Like you were saying earlier is

00:52:06.440 like that we are able to just strip citizenship because the United States just doesn't do that.

00:52:09.840 The United States, I think it's like 50, 60 plus us nationals that have been repatriated with ISIS

00:52:15.740 links. And, um, the main argument is like, we just legally wouldn't be able to strip them of

00:52:20.700 citizenship, even though they were literally in ISIS by all accounts. Um, and then they also,

00:52:26.300 there's also this argument that's like, okay, well, if you leave them in that camp and, um, and

00:52:31.040 whatever, then you run the risk of them becoming even like more radicalized, like, uh, you know,

00:52:35.720 enacting, putting together more terror plots, these sorts of things versus repatriating them to

00:52:39.820 the U S putting them, putting them in a court, putting, or putting them on trial, throwing

00:52:44.480 them in jail problem solved. But the reason, again, the, the reason why the UK model is

00:52:50.240 so important here is because it allows you to start having conversations about denaturalization

00:52:55.080 and the UK is not the only country I believe. I believe, I think, uh, France and Germany have

00:53:00.600 also stripped citizenships before. I'll fact check that after, but I know that they're very

00:53:05.040 reluctant to accept repatriated repatriations, um, of ISIS members, Canada, Australia, like

00:53:12.100 a handful between them. It's really only the U S that has this, uh, model where they repatriate

00:53:18.840 citizens from these detention camps. Um, and then the other you prosecute, obviously they 0.99

00:53:24.380 prosecute these, these people. Um, but oh my gosh, the thing about the thing that's so gay 1.00

00:53:30.480 about the, I think the UK situation is they're not using the American, um, the American sort

00:53:38.400 of theory on why you should repatriate them, which is like, okay, to put them on trial,

00:53:41.580 dah, dah, dah, dah. They're just saying, no, it's, she should come back because she could

00:53:44.560 help make the country. Um, she could help improve the country in some way. She has so much to

00:53:49.500 add. This is such a human rights violation. Like, why are, why are we doing this? I remember

00:53:52.780 I was seeing tweets about like, um, there's, they were showing pictures of her and they're like,

00:53:56.960 you can just see in her eyes. Like, this isn't who she is. She's so much better than this. Like,

00:54:01.060 uh, this, you can just tell she wants to change. I was like, are we, are we conducting our

00:54:06.580 counter-terrorism strategy off of like vibes now? Is that the new, is that the new play? I wasn't

00:54:11.180 aware of this. Can I, can I reach a sensible compromise? I was arguing with, are you familiar

00:54:15.400 with a guy called, uh, Peter Hitchens by any child? Yes. No, I'm very well. Yeah. Okay. So he is,

00:54:22.140 he's Britain's most curmudgeonly man. I, I describe him as Denethor because his advice

00:54:27.820 for young men in Britain is leave while you still can. But he has been advocating for

00:54:33.000 bringing Shemima Begum back because she hasn't been tried yet. So basically like one in terrorist, 0.85

00:54:39.620 one out native British. And so he's basically like saying flee, abandon your posts, men of 0.99

00:54:44.920 Minas Tirith, let all be walked in. So anyway, I was, I was arguing with him because he wasn't

00:54:48.640 even saying human rights. He was saying it wasn't the Christian thing to do to allow her

00:54:53.020 to rot in a desert after joining ISIS, you know, and she, this famous interview, there's

00:54:58.420 a, there's a hilarious clip of it that I'm sure people will be able to find where she

00:55:01.520 says, well, I haven't done anything wrong other than join ISIS. It's like, yeah, that's 0.71

00:55:04.920 pretty significant. You know, like the fact that you've admitted to that means that's just

00:55:09.120 a guilty verdict. Like we can, we can just fast track that, you know, you know, you know,

00:55:14.160 everyone, you know, like I, I was vegan for like a month. Um, you know, I had a buddy,

00:55:19.040 he drives an electric car. He just got called out on that. And you join ISIS. Like, you know,

00:55:22.480 these things happen, you know, it looks like it's, you know, no one's perfect. It's just

00:55:25.900 a face. Everyone's got a rough past. Yeah. All of, all of us have had the temptation at

00:55:29.620 some point. And, uh, so I was saying to you're at the boys, like, should we just join ISIS?

00:55:34.780 Why not? Something to do for the weekend, at least, you know? So I was saying to Pete Hitchens,

00:55:39.840 the compromise we can reach is rather than, you know, have the thorny issue of her sitting in the

00:55:44.100 terror camp for ages and, you know, possibly sponsoring other terrorists or rather than

00:55:49.200 bringing her back. And, and he was really confused when I said that, you know, making the British

00:55:53.180 taxpayer pay for a house. And he was like, well, why would I didn't advocate such a thing? Peter,

00:55:57.280 if she was tried and then went to prison, we'd be paying for her, like we'd be paying for her cell, 0.86

00:56:00.780 her food and her mosque. So yeah, we would rather than doing both of those things. Can we just turn 1.00

00:56:04.940 her into a fine red mist in the middle of Syrian desert? Like, I think that would be sensible. 1.00

00:56:08.780 Like I know, I know people are a little bit, um, touchy about that sort of thing in terms of,

00:56:14.100 the fact that foreign adventurism has been unmitigated disaster throughout the last how

00:56:19.560 many years. But I think if we know where our own homegrown Islamic terrorists are, if we 0.98

00:56:26.160 are enduring the threat of them being brought back and causing more problems, and bear in

00:56:30.380 mind, there have been multiple, uh, attempted and successful female terrorists. There was 1.00

00:56:34.960 a woman who stabbed a Labour MP in 2010. There was a recent case where there was a woman who

00:56:40.320 was, uh, she was like the, the nickname of the mother of the Taliban or something. And

00:56:44.760 the police had to retake her mugshot because her lawyer claimed it was offensive, that she

00:56:48.300 took it without a burqa on. So it's literally like there's a mugshot of her face and then

00:56:52.080 a mugshot of her just with the eyes slit. We are such a joke country. 0.97

00:56:55.200 A lighter box, like Boris said.

00:56:57.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally, like, it's just a legion of ninjas. So if we return to Shemima 0.96

00:57:00.860 Begum, she could be a genuine threat. Rather than just doing that, let's reach the compromise

00:57:05.540 of just executing an enemy combatant where it's clean to do so. And the idea that that's

00:57:12.920 not the Christian thing to do, sorry, but Christ multiple times in the Bible said and

00:57:18.560 did, use force to correct immorality. Not just the turning of the tables, not just the

00:57:23.920 sell your cloak so you can possess a sword, uh, not just the Gospel of Matthew verse that

00:57:27.940 says you're better off tying yourself to a millstone than trying to enter the kingdom

00:57:31.140 of heaven if you violated a child. Like, look at Revelation, for example. There are all

00:57:36.100 of these instances where righteous violence is possible. And I think that if you have

00:57:41.160 tried to violently overthrow Christendom and rejected your civilization, um, just like you 0.98

00:57:47.920 wouldn't get $200 if you keep passing go but stealing from the bank, you shouldn't be

00:57:52.700 afforded the grace of its laws, and so you should probably meet the sharp end of a drone

00:57:56.780 strike. Yeah, absolutely. I think potentially Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, and then with his

00:58:02.780 new name, I think if he wants his titles back, he should get back on his Falkland Islands era

00:58:07.720 warship and just start shelling the crap out of, like, you know, Syria and Yemen and stuff. 0.98

00:58:12.600 And then, like, you know, eventually if he's knocked out enough of these, you know, these

00:58:16.220 Shemima types, then maybe you could get, maybe not Prince, but we'll throw him a cool name, 0.95

00:58:20.260 like, you know, you know, Doctor or something. That's just an idea. I'm just spitballing here.

00:58:24.520 I, I, I, you know what, I think given, given, given the dark cloud of allegations hanging

00:58:28.640 over him, we can exile him to Epstein Island, but, um, when Harry is eventually dumped by

00:58:32.800 Meghan and sort of crawling embarrassingly back to sleep on his brother's sofa, maybe

00:58:36.700 he can get in an Apache and do it instead. Like, he, he might be next in line for royal 0.98

00:58:40.440 redemptions. It'd be like a Neil Ellis kind of arc, that'd be kind of nice to see.

00:58:44.100 Yeah. He has to, he has to wear the, uh, the Halloween party uniform, though. You know

00:58:47.520 which one. Yeah. Him and Trudeau could run duos in Syria, like Fortnite. That'd be

00:58:53.020 beautiful. That'd be a beautiful thing. I'm also seeing, this is, maybe you can outline

00:58:57.360 this a little bit, because this story, this, this was not on my radar at all. Uh, later

00:59:01.740 leadership crisis. I've, I've heard about the, you know, labor. There's been some, um,

00:59:05.660 there's been a little, uh, knife fight, so to speak, but, um, there's a whole plot to bring

00:59:11.680 Starmer down. Is this what's, is this what's happening? I didn't realize it'd gotten to this

00:59:14.460 point.

00:59:14.740 I think it's still rumbling along, because you're, you're getting leaks from, from Downing

00:59:21.100 Street now at this point, and when that tends to happen, it's because they've lost all narrative

00:59:24.520 control. So, Starmer's an advisor who positions himself as a sort of, um, left-wing populist,

00:59:32.720 you know, a left-wing on economics, but can, can outflank reform rhetorically on migration,

00:59:38.120 despite labor now slumping to fourth in the polls overall. They're behind the Green Party,

00:59:42.460 and the Green Party are literally just the gay race communist party. Like, they're led 0.99

00:59:45.360 by a guy who changed his name to be more Jewish, and a deputy leader, whose name is Mothin

00:59:49.280 Ali, who, when he was elected as a councillor in 2024, shouted, Allahu Akbar, this is for

00:59:53.500 Gaza. What this has to do with growing vegetables, I don't have any idea.

00:59:57.680 There you go.

00:59:58.360 So, so, now, because of Starmer's record on popularity, he's literally the most unpopular

01:00:04.400 prime minister since records began, because he has been incapable of handling the civil service,

01:00:10.140 because he hasn't brought migration down, because the economy is spiraling out of control

01:00:13.540 under him, and Rachel Reeves, who has been nicknamed Rachel Thieves, because she has put

01:00:17.980 an income tax on, uh, farmland. So, obviously, you're not going to be able to pay it unless

01:00:22.920 you sell off the farmland to, like, some megacorp so they can build a migrant battery farm on 1.00

01:00:26.660 it. And she's set to probably break a manifesto pledge in the next budget on the 26th of November 0.71

01:00:32.140 by raising income tax. Bear in mind, we've already got the highest level of tax since 1948.

01:00:36.620 We had that under the Conservatives, and it just keeps going up. And the economy is in

01:00:40.980 total freefall. You know, GDP is 100% of, of debt is 100% of GDP. There's marginal growth.

01:00:47.600 It's shrunk each quarter. So, when that budget goes through and it's record unpopular, people

01:00:53.300 think not only is she going to be scapegoated, but in a rarity for the Labour Party, they might

01:00:58.820 vote against Kirsten with a vote of no confidence. Uh, his deputy, Angela Rayner, just got ousted

01:01:03.700 as well because of a dispute about not paying tax on one of her homes that she bought. It

01:01:09.980 was like a second house. She didn't pay the stamp duty, even though she advocated for increasing

01:01:13.160 stamp duty as a tax to take more taxes from homebuyers. She's very popular in the party

01:01:17.900 because she's Northern, a woman, very foul-mouthed, and incredibly far left. And so, the rabid base 1.00

01:01:25.660 of the party who thinks Starmer is capitulating to the right, even though Starmer keeps calling

01:01:30.000 everyone far right, hate him, they really like her, and they're infuriated that he got 0.99

01:01:34.620 rid of her because she was a hypocrite and the media had to make wind of it. So, now that 0.99

01:01:38.920 Starmer is alone on an island of strangers, so to speak, the blades are starting to be

01:01:44.240 sharpened. So, Wes Streeting, who I've often called Brutus in waiting, he's the health secretary,

01:01:49.200 and he has been biding his time going for leadership. Wes Streeting would be an unmitigated disaster

01:01:54.880 because even though he tries to position himself as a moderate, one, he's got the least trustworthy

01:01:58.680 physiognomy known to man. And, you know, God rest him. You know when they used to make

01:02:03.880 those memes of Charlie Kirk with, like, his face shrunk on a really big head? That's

01:02:07.660 just Wes Streeting's face. It's horrifying. So, Wes's career is interesting. He co-wrote

01:02:13.220 the Islamophobia definition on behalf of the all-party parliamentary group on British Muslims

01:02:17.520 in, like, 2018 to 2019. He's a gay man, by the way, not a Muslim. And this particular 0.99

01:02:23.040 definition said that conversations about the grooming gangs are rooted in anti-Muslim racism.

01:02:27.360 The definition, by the way, you'll love this. It's very similar to the what-is-a-woman

01:02:30.800 definition. It is, Islamophobia is a kind of racism, rooted in racism, that targets Muslimness

01:02:36.960 or perceived Muslimness. Our brightest mind, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. He was also a member

01:02:43.440 of Stonewall, you know, the LGBT charity. And... I don't know him too well, but... Well, yeah,

01:02:50.060 yeah, yeah. You have some inside knowledge. What's going on? What's going on over there?

01:02:54.780 My friend told me about it. Um, yeah. You don't know her. She goes to different school. So,

01:02:59.500 he was a Republican staffer. They'll know all about it. Oh, yeah. They're all experts.

01:03:05.020 All the guys in Natalie Winter's DMs are, like, fully paid-up members, I'm sure. Um, so...

01:03:10.060 That's true. He was running their campaigns, and as health secretary, he has upheld a high-court

01:03:15.980 ban on giving puberty blockers to young people. So people were like, oh, maybe he's moderating

01:03:20.380 on the issue. But what he's done is open an uncapped trial with £10 million in funding

01:03:26.460 with the NHS to give children puberty blockers. Despite the cast review, despite all the horror

01:03:31.500 stories coming out, despite the fact that the trans issue has been basically settled, including

01:03:35.340 by the Supreme Court that's now ruled on the what-is-a-woman question and said it's a matter 1.00

01:03:38.300 of biological sex, his health department is still drugging children and castrating them.

01:03:43.340 En masse, we don't even know how many children. So he would be an absolute disaster. 0.99

01:03:47.260 And the alternative is Shabona Mahmood. Good British name. Very British, yeah.

01:03:51.740 Yeah, Pakistani Muslim Home Secretary who says that you can't say that she's not English because

01:03:56.380 that's racist, even though she's born to two Pakistani parents and was raised in Saudi Arabia. 0.76

01:04:00.140 And she says that her Sunni Muslim faith is the most important thing in her life and informs

01:04:04.620 everything she does in politics. I believe her. She also endorsed this Islamophobia definition. 0.98

01:04:09.660 But in recent weeks, including today, after this report has come out about Starmer being

01:04:16.540 under threat, she is trying to position herself as an immigration hardliner. So she is saying

01:04:22.540 that the Boris wave, the millions of immigrants granted indefinite leave to remain since Boris

01:04:27.980 Johnson brought them in after Brexit. And indefinite leave to remain means, and you're not going to

01:04:31.580 believe this, if you're in the UK for five years, you're just here, right? No matter on what visa,

01:04:36.460 no matter what you've overstayed, no matter what job you're doing, what you're earning,

01:04:39.420 what crimes you've committed, you get the right to remain in Britain forever, you get the access

01:04:44.300 to claim all benefits, you get the access to socially subsidised housing, you get the NHS,

01:04:49.580 so socialised healthcare, and you get an expedited route to citizenship for you and your children.

01:04:54.780 So the Boris wave is going to get that, and the bill for that, just like two years of the Boris wave,

01:05:00.300 is going to be $234 billion minimum. So she said, don't worry, the hundreds of thousands of people

01:05:07.660 that are eligible for this, you know, 95% of whom are never going to be net taxpayers,

01:05:12.700 all of whom weren't invited here because the public voted against immigration in Brexit and

01:05:16.860 with electing Boris, those people will have to wait 10 years to claim benefits. Wow, we're just

01:05:22.860 going to kick it straight into the long grass, don't worry, the bill won't come due for a little

01:05:25.980 while, guys. It's a bit like the mortgages that Trump's putting up. And she's also done these

01:05:30.540 like slick videos on Twitter saying the Home Office is deporting 50,000 immigrants, most of

01:05:35.660 those are paid voluntary returns, by the way. Like the Ethiopian sex offender, they paid 500 pounds 0.78

01:05:40.460 to get out of the country. And then she's tried to make these charities, this is something you flagged to

01:05:45.020 me, uh, induct migrants on this like forced volunteering scheme. Dude, it's all good for 1.00

01:05:52.380 prisoners in America, we just throw it, get them a stick with a neon and work their way down the

01:05:56.060 highway. It's like the same idea. It works. It's not a Harris solution, yeah. So, look,

01:06:00.780 the problem that she's got is because she's a demented open borders leftist and Islamic activist 1.00

01:06:05.260 and always has been, the charities she's tried to conscript have all signed a letter saying no.

01:06:09.580 So, 320 organizations, including the National Council for Voluntary Organizations,

01:06:15.020 the Charity Retail Association, and Age UK and Citizens Advice have said they can't

01:06:20.620 accept the unworkable proposal because it would be inhumane to force illegal immigrants that are 1.00

01:06:25.180 staying in five-star hotels at my expense, getting pocket money, DJ lessons, playstations,

01:06:30.460 and phones, I'm not exaggerating, and have a mini bus to take them on day trips to the seaside.

01:06:35.100 It would be unfeasible for them to spend an hour a week picking up literal working in soup

01:06:40.220 kitchens. The only saving grace by the fact that they've been denied this proposal is that they

01:06:44.220 won't be working any children's charities anytime soon.

01:06:49.020 I, like, we should be making them do, um, to test them. They should be, like, working,

01:06:55.740 like, I'm thinking stateside. We should make them work at, like, a Waffle House just for, 0.71

01:07:00.220 like, two or three weeks. Um, you know, maybe make them work, um, like, in a senior home, 0.99

01:07:06.460 be, like, the diaper changers. They kind of already work those gigs anyway. I'm just trying to think of,

01:07:10.860 like, frontline, like, truly the American gigs that you're, like, getting the brunt of the

01:07:15.180 American underclass and, like, in all of its, in all of its glory. And I'm thinking, like, 0.99

01:07:18.940 yeah, work in the desk at, like, La Quinta. You know, people are coming in to, like, just,

01:07:22.700 you know, cheat on their wives and do drugs and stuff. And you're just interacting with that.

01:07:26.700 And then you can, it's, it almost helps the refugee more because then they're like,

01:07:30.380 I don't know if I want to stay here. If this is, like, really, you know, America and it's all,

01:07:34.780 all of its, you know, brevity, I don't know if I'm ready. And I think that could be the solution.

01:07:38.860 So I think, you know, the charities don't worry about that in the UK. Maybe you make them work

01:07:41.740 at, like, a Greggs. I think that'd be nice. They won't, this is actually a good litmus test.

01:07:46.460 They won't work at a Greggs because of the sausage rolls. So my idea, my idea for America is,

01:07:50.700 of course, make them, make them staff the Walgreens in Brooklyn. And my idea for Britain is make them

01:07:56.140 staff dog shelters. I don't, I don't think we're gonna have an interview for tomorrow. Um,

01:08:00.300 this was just kind of a weird week. Uh, but we're getting into a good rhythm. I, so full disclosure,

01:08:05.820 we're setting up a studio at Timcast, um, primarily for this purposes of this show.

01:08:10.780 Well, that's nice to, uh, the audience who had a very positive reaction to the first episode.

01:08:17.420 Yeah. I think, you know, we, we had high hopes, but we were blown away. We genuinely were blown

01:08:22.220 away. Um, viewership was good. Uh, obviously the feedback was incredible. Um, so we're, we're super

01:08:28.140 grateful that this is able to work out. Um, and everyone at Timcast is super excited about it too.

01:08:32.540 I mean, that's something that's like, I don't think it's discussed enough is like, look, you know,

01:08:35.740 people that you work with, they love watching this kind of stuff too. And, um, so they're fired up.

01:08:41.260 It's just been great. So I'm really appreciative to all you guys watching and supporting like

01:08:44.380 genuinely. Um, it's, it's cool that we're able to get this idea out there. And then, yeah, as, as,

01:08:49.020 as time moves on, you know, it's going to be more and more of a polished product. I don't know.

01:08:52.700 Maybe you don't want the polished product. Maybe you like the rawness. Maybe you like that I'm in a

01:08:56.380 crowd or, uh, what's a, what do they call it? Like, uh, I don't even know what you call this

01:09:02.060 place. It's like where you can go and rent a room. Um, it's like a WeWork, but it's like not

01:09:05.740 a WeWork. It's in a middle-aged woman's living room. Yeah. It looked like I'm in a therapist's 0.99

01:09:10.620 office. Yeah. It's crazy. Um, but yeah, so I'm just, I'm in this like back room and a warehouse

01:09:16.060 in West Palm beach right now. I was at Mar-a-Lago yesterday and I get to do this for like a living

01:09:21.820 because people are watching this and it's great. But, um, yeah, next week I will be out of this

01:09:26.060 weird, um, like dungeon. And, uh, if they let me out. Yeah, let me film in San Diego. We just got

01:09:32.940 to guess where the location is each week you're from. I keep moving and I'll be in a, and I'll be

01:09:37.980 in a studio next week. So then we'll get moving. It's going to be a really good stuff. So yeah,

01:09:42.460 Connor, where can people find you? They can find me at con underscore Tomlinson on X. They can

01:09:47.980 find me at Connor Tomlinson on sub stack and on YouTube. And I do most of my writing for

01:09:52.700 courage media. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you. You can follow me on X Instagram at real tape

01:09:57.740 Brown. And, uh, yeah, we've got a whole slate of Tim cast content all week. You guys know where to

01:10:02.140 find that, but, uh, we'll be back next weekend and we'll see you there. Thank you very much.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - November 15, 2025

MAGA REVOLTS After Trump Defends H1-B Visas ｜ Across The Pond

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