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00:00:15.460 What is going on, guys?

00:00:17.040 This is Tate Brown here, holding it down.

00:00:18.880 We are back for another installment of Across the Pond.

00:00:22.600 Only on The Culture War.

00:00:24.560 Except tomorrow's episode will be on Connor Tomlinson's channel.

00:00:27.980 Unbelievable. Really changing things up here.

00:00:30.120 And this is the last time you'll probably see this set.

00:00:33.400 If you've seen what's going on at Timcastle, it's like the Matrix coming to the office.

00:00:37.100 I'm having to duck and dive and get my Riot Shield out.

00:00:39.840 I have to use the Riot Shield loadout right now.

00:00:41.600 I'm taking up a very valuable secondary spot in my toolbar.

00:00:45.360 But what are you going to do?

00:00:46.440 It's the world we live in.

00:00:48.040 Connor, how's it going, man?

00:00:49.280 Yeah, good.

00:00:49.800 I thought you were going to have the Juggernaut suit on when you came and sat down.

00:00:53.480 I only came equipped with dual-wheeled FMGs.

00:00:56.340 And I haven't got Scavenger on, so I'm going to run out real quick.

00:00:58.540 Oh, the more innocent days when we were sitting there wasting hours saying slurs on Call of Duty.

00:01:03.860 Oh, take me back.

00:01:05.140 Take me back.

00:01:05.600 Yeah, now we can't even say slurs on YouTube.

00:01:07.320 It's heartbroken.

00:01:09.060 The woke left won't let me say slurs on YouTube.

00:01:11.360 I was thinking the other day about there's all these gun laws, all these gun restrictions coming into place.

00:01:18.320 And I'm wondering what those guys over at Palantir are cooking up.

00:01:21.320 I'm wondering if we will finally get a pack-a-punch in real life.

00:01:24.060 That's what really excites me.

00:01:25.240 It's been percolating in my head, this idea of bringing the pack-a-punch to the real world.

00:01:30.520 I don't know.

00:01:30.880 That sounds really exciting to me.

00:01:33.100 Yeah, I can't wait for all of the, on every street corner, all of the quick-revive soda cans.

00:01:40.860 It'll be fantastic.

00:01:42.140 And then when, obviously, the apocalypse inevitably hits after the Civil War that Tim's been predicting for years now,

00:01:47.260 you can trade in the bottle caps.

00:01:49.020 It's true.

00:01:49.540 You know, when you really think about Hinduism, it's kind of like COD in a little way with the revive.

00:01:55.420 Really, you respawn in many ways.

00:01:57.420 And that's kind of exciting to me.

00:01:58.580 Maybe the Hindus, you know, I wish they were right, because that would be really something if you could just respawn. 1.00

00:02:03.380 Like, you know, Team Deathmatch or something.

00:02:05.440 I guess that would be more the Middle East would be sort of a COD lobby in many ways.

00:02:09.620 But unfortunately...

00:02:10.840 No, it looks like there's a, what is it, Dead Man's Hand, that part?

00:02:15.460 I'd probably get arrested for saying that in my country.

00:02:17.880 I just don't care anymore.

00:02:19.540 Yeah, well, they had a Dead Man switch.

00:02:22.920 We invaded their countries, and they just sent them all here. 1.00

00:02:25.620 So what are you going to do with that?

00:02:28.260 Well, on that note, obviously, this show, we talk about the affairs of our countries.

00:02:33.480 It's very pertinent, the diaspora of the Middle East.

00:02:36.760 But we're taking a break from immigration.

00:02:38.800 We talk immigration a lot on this show.

00:02:40.580 We have a variety of topics today on tap.

00:02:43.160 We're going to break down the Tyler Robinson trial.

00:02:45.620 Obviously, it kicked off yesterday.

00:02:46.940 There's a lot of discourse around it, a lot of drama, to say the least.

00:02:51.880 I mean, it really is.

00:02:52.820 This is really probably one of the most high-profile cases, certainly of the 21st century, but possibly

00:02:58.620 American history.

00:02:59.560 So everyone's got a close eye on it.

00:03:01.440 So we're going to sort of break down that first day.

00:03:03.620 And more importantly, we're going to break down Tyler Robinson himself and sort of how does a

00:03:09.060 Tyler Robinson come about?

00:03:10.000 What creates a Tyler Robinson?

00:03:12.560 We also are going to cover the Fuentes and Piers Morgan interview, which you probably saw the clip circulating.

00:03:18.900 And then we also had a thread posted by an anon Solianoth.

00:03:23.100 I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly.

00:03:24.500 And he expressed some serious, serious hot nuclear takes on the dating and sort of the sexual dynamics between the men and women, obviously.

00:03:37.140 And he breaks it down.

00:03:38.300 And there was a bit of a pile on.

00:03:39.700 But we want to analyze what he had to say and see if there's something there.

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00:04:59.100 Obviously, yesterday, well, this would be yesterday.

00:05:01.560 We're filming on Friday.

00:05:02.600 So when you see this, it'll be Saturday.

00:05:04.060 So Thursday was the opening of the Tyler Robinson trial.

00:05:11.120 Obviously, everybody has been keeping an eye on this.

00:05:14.040 Everyone on the right, obviously, wants to see the entire book thrown at this guy.

00:05:19.860 Charlie Kirk being perhaps the most high-profile political assassination, not just in the United States, but globally of the 21st century in many ways.

00:05:29.160 Certainly in the United States.

00:05:30.380 There's no doubt about that.

00:05:32.080 And so Tyler Robinson obviously was brought into court yesterday.

00:05:36.500 It was his first physical court appearance.

00:05:38.660 This was in Provo, Utah, and he previously had attended some of these hearings remotely.

00:05:43.480 So this was his first time in the courthouse, and he appeared in civilian clothes.

00:05:47.880 And then, obviously, the prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

00:05:51.100 He's being charged with multiple counts, including aggravated murder, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, and a violent offense in the presence of a child for the September 10th shooting at Utah Valley University.

00:06:01.960 And the interesting thing, the debacle right now is obviously there was cameras in the courtroom yesterday.

00:06:08.520 They temporarily would halt the cameras when rules were broken.

00:06:12.580 But obviously, Tyler Robinson's legal team is pushing for this not to happen.

00:06:19.160 They don't want to turn this into a spectacle, which it's going to be.

00:06:23.680 Like I said, this is the most high-profile assassination of the 21st century in the United States.

00:06:27.800 I'll say at least in the United States.

00:06:28.800 So his defense is pushing for limited media access.

00:06:32.320 Obviously, the entire media, left, right, center, whatever, wants to be in that courthouse because, again, this is unbelievable.

00:06:39.560 This is really going to be a landmark case in many ways.

00:06:44.520 So they're fighting.

00:06:45.640 They're pushing hard for access and transcripts of certain hearings and these sorts of things.

00:06:49.520 So right now, the judge is weighing how open proceedings will be.

00:06:54.320 And the fact that Robinson is wearing civilian clothes but remains restrained sort of shows the judge is trying to balance things.

00:07:04.520 He's trying to balance transparency with fairness.

00:07:07.720 So with that, Connor, what are your thoughts on this trial so far?

00:07:13.020 Obviously, there was the clips going around of Tyler sort of smirking throughout the trial.

00:07:19.420 The debate has been, is Tyler Robinson just a crazy person? 0.90

00:07:23.140 Is he just a psychopath? 1.00

00:07:24.680 Obviously, he's a psychopath. 1.00

00:07:26.000 But is he just a crazy person? 0.99

00:07:27.040 It's not all there? 0.75

00:07:27.940 Or is this someone that actually is cold and calculated and knows exactly what he's doing?

00:07:33.600 Well, first of all, I was, for one, shocked.

00:07:37.300 There were no men in maroon t-shirts, beekeepers, or representatives of the Egyptian military in attendance.

00:07:42.760 So I'm sure the court is missing a trick there.

00:07:47.040 Dark jokes aside.

00:07:47.960 No head taps or watch taps or anything.

00:07:49.840 It was wild.

00:07:50.960 Yeah, nobody disappeared through a trap door.

00:07:53.040 Nobody had a flight to catch back to Cairo. 0.99

00:07:55.460 Fucking crazy. 0.99

00:07:56.020 No one invented it. 0.99

00:07:58.440 I'm sure Ian Carroll will be on it by tonight.

00:08:00.520 Yeah, so I did see Poso pointed out the conspicuous colors of Tyler Robinson's tie, though, not to get conspiratorial, but it was baby pink and blue.

00:08:09.460 So immediately just wearing a trans flag on his tie.

00:08:12.420 Interesting choice.

00:08:13.400 And there's also the remorseless grin on the face of a man who has probably the least trustworthy physiognomy I've ever seen in his life.

00:08:21.360 It's weird to have your chin and your forehead be equidistant from your facial features.

00:08:26.380 It's very strange.

00:08:27.300 I wonder if any of his bedroom habits caused said chin to be so recessive.

00:08:32.740 But, you know, still allegedly.

00:08:34.380 But I think at this point, considering his own dad turned them in and his printer found on a gun and we've got his Discord messages, not just from the FBI,

00:08:42.220 but actually there was a really good substack piece by Anonymous Byrd that Poso had posted on his ex from a third-party source that was in the same Discord server

00:08:52.340 that went through all of the posts that Robinson and Twigs had made from his own phone.

00:08:58.880 So we've got it externally verified, photos of his house, you know, all these texts and photos of the squalid conditions they were living in

00:09:05.040 with, like, Temu trinkets and used condoms littered everywhere.

00:09:08.320 I think it's pretty fair to say that Robinson was the shooter and that the motive seems to have been a defensiveness

00:09:14.680 because his degenerate, gender-bending, furry lifestyle was implicated in Charlie Kirk's perfectly reasonable observation

00:09:22.200 that you can't change sex by thought. 0.97

00:09:23.660 And he took that personally, of course, and killed.

00:09:29.140 Probably, this is probably, other than if Matthew Thomas Crooks, who, again, lots of questions surrounding him there that the FBI still haven't answered

00:09:36.620 and his fascination with Muscular Woman on DeviantArt.

00:09:40.480 Other than if Thomas Crooks had succeeded in blowing Trump's head off, this is probably the highest-profile political assassination in world history

00:09:48.980 for sheer number of eyes and people's ability to cover the ensuing trial.

00:09:54.760 Because, obviously, you know, John Wilkes Booth shot JFK, not JFK, Lincoln, then there's JFK assassination.

00:10:03.380 You've had a bunch of political assassinations, but just sheer numbers of people who watched Charlie Kirk.

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00:10:36.540 Especially because he wasn't a president.

00:10:38.880 It's astronomical how many people are paying attention to this.

00:10:41.300 And also, you've got the compounding factor of then the media circus of people like Ian Carroll or Candace Owens

00:10:47.220 making already disproven and outlandish claims to millions of people

00:10:51.560 and turning it into a true crime drama or a soap opera

00:10:54.520 and causing people to mob Erica Kirk and Tony Point employees and even Tim

00:11:04.620 for implying that they're somehow in on it.

00:11:07.680 That every government you could name,

00:11:09.540 Bajeet McCrone, the CIA, MKUltra,

00:11:12.480 every conservative influencer, Charlie's own wife,

00:11:14.880 were in on killing him rather than this guy who got a bit upset

00:11:17.960 that Charlie Kirk insulted his troon lover. 0.68

00:11:21.340 And I actually think,

00:11:23.320 my great worry,

00:11:24.700 because obviously I've been following all the coverage

00:11:27.040 that's come out from the Tim Koss compound

00:11:29.100 because I love you guys and I hope that you're safe.

00:11:30.600 And my great worry is this trial doesn't put it to bed.

00:11:35.120 You're still going to get people that have been driven to a form of psychosis

00:11:38.120 because they've been watching all sorts of conspiratorial content

00:11:41.100 by people that don't know what the hell they're talking about 0.53

00:11:42.780 and don't have the humility to say otherwise.

00:11:45.120 And they're never going to accept the verdict.

00:11:47.560 Even though they're living with a performative contradiction, by the way,

00:11:50.960 of not campaigning for Tyler Robinson's release.

00:11:53.420 Have you noticed that?

00:11:54.240 How none of them are raising money for his family

00:11:57.180 or they're saying,

00:11:58.060 free him, he's the wrong man.

00:11:59.380 And it's actually, you know,

00:12:01.820 Mohammed from the Egyptian military.

00:12:03.800 Like, none of them are doing this.

00:12:05.920 They kind of know that they're making a lot of money

00:12:08.540 off of this spectacle

00:12:09.280 and driving people to the point of literally schizoparanoid delusion.

00:12:14.360 And I don't think that they can't walk that back.

00:12:17.800 And so all they can do in the aftermath of this

00:12:19.380 is double down and present themselves as

00:12:21.340 the only credible source on the one truth that nobody's telling,

00:12:24.660 even if Robinson does get convicted.

00:12:27.000 Yeah.

00:12:27.140 Well, I mean, I made this point.

00:12:28.800 I'd actually spoken to Oron McIntyre a few days prior on The Noon Live.

00:12:33.340 He'll be joining us tomorrow if you guys are interested.

00:12:35.600 It's going to be a great show.

00:12:36.800 But I made the point to him that what we're kind of seeing here

00:12:38.900 is we've seen on, in the, in right-wing media,

00:12:42.580 you know, the sphere,

00:12:44.160 we've seen sort of this Mr. Beastification of content

00:12:46.820 where the actual, you know, depth of the arguments

00:12:50.620 has been watered down in favor of just surface-level polemics.

00:12:53.620 And it's very loud, it's very, you know, the graphics are very colorful,

00:12:57.220 the thumbnails will, you know, AI over the top, these sorts of things.

00:13:00.420 And that indicates sort of a Mr. Beastification of political, of polemics.

00:13:05.580 But now we're seeing sort of this new wave,

00:13:08.340 which is the Netflixification of polemics,

00:13:11.200 in which, you know, these people you named,

00:13:13.080 Candace Owens, you know, Ian Carroll,

00:13:15.280 these sorts of people,

00:13:16.060 is they're actually trying to string together a narrative

00:13:19.220 and they have to sort of one-up the previous,

00:13:21.740 the previous story,

00:13:23.900 the previous, you know, fact that they disclosed.

00:13:26.560 And that's just a really dangerous thing

00:13:28.440 because the only way they're going to be able to maintain their audience

00:13:30.380 is continuing to escalate the story

00:13:32.100 and make it more dramatic

00:13:33.040 and it would have a deeper web.

00:13:35.620 So with that, I mean, we have that side of things.

00:13:39.480 Michael Knowles made this point on a show yesterday,

00:13:41.680 and it's a really good point.

00:13:42.920 And it's something that I think needs to be made

00:13:44.680 because I think the right would be better off

00:13:47.320 coming to grasps with this reality.

00:13:50.220 And the point that he made is that political assassinations work.

00:13:53.800 And again, that's not something people want to hear.

00:13:56.240 We want to pretend like,

00:13:57.900 look, we can just pick up where he left off

00:13:59.920 and we can, you know, band together and unite

00:14:01.880 and hit him stronger than ever.

00:14:05.180 But there's a reason that they assassinated Charlie Kirk.

00:14:07.680 They wanted to take him off the board.

00:14:09.100 He was, I've said it before on the show,

00:14:11.780 he was the quarterback of the MAGA movement.

00:14:13.660 And we're in a significantly worse place as a movement without him.

00:14:20.540 And like Michael Knowles said,

00:14:22.460 it's a very salient point is that political assassinations work.

00:14:27.220 And that's just the reality of the situation.

00:14:29.480 Yeah, and it's also very easy for someone to,

00:14:35.060 and don't get me wrong, you know,

00:14:36.100 we both have our criticisms of the administration

00:14:38.260 not going far enough on certain issues,

00:14:39.780 but we've also praised,

00:14:41.060 especially the stuff they're doing in the State Department

00:14:42.580 for the Anglosphere in Europe.

00:14:44.740 But it's very easy for people who do basically have an evac,

00:14:48.460 like, not being funny,

00:14:49.940 and I've met George Farmer, he's a very nice chap,

00:14:51.640 but he's very wealthy and he lives in Britain.

00:14:54.780 If anything ever goes wrong,

00:14:57.720 Candace Owens can just pick up and move elsewhere, 1.00

00:15:00.640 so she doesn't actually have to give a damn about the midterms,

00:15:02.900 she can just give a damn about her own YouTube channel. 1.00

00:15:05.640 Whereas people who are rooted in their states, 0.78

00:15:08.800 like, you know, you guys in West Virginia,

00:15:11.040 and me here in London,

00:15:13.260 we actually have to stay and fight,

00:15:15.940 and we have to, like,

00:15:17.900 we have to substantiate our claims.

00:15:19.800 We've got a lot higher of a barrier to entry

00:15:22.820 to actually get things done,

00:15:24.480 rather than just turn everything into making a murderer

00:15:27.400 or some great drama.

00:15:29.300 And in terms of the doubling down,

00:15:30.820 you're correct,

00:15:31.500 because pretty much every TV show

00:15:33.640 that has been major in the last decade or so,

00:15:37.560 perhaps except for Breaking Bad,

00:15:39.840 has ended really poorly,

00:15:41.480 because they don't know how to stick the landing.

00:15:43.800 Whether it's Stranger Things or Game of Thrones,

00:15:46.800 none of them have known how to pull it off,

00:15:50.160 and so instead they often just drag it on

00:15:52.260 well past their sell-by date.

00:15:53.480 And this is where,

00:15:54.600 was it Cheers originally,

00:15:56.300 that the phrase jumping the shark came from,

00:15:58.880 where they got so absurd with their plots

00:16:00.600 that they ended up having him, like,

00:16:01.960 jump over a shark tank on a motorbike.

00:16:04.140 Was it Happy Days?

00:16:06.220 Oh, was it Happy Days?

00:16:06.940 That would be it.

00:16:07.400 It was Happy Days, yeah.

00:16:08.660 Yeah, so it was just,

00:16:09.500 it had run on too long.

00:16:10.880 And I think you're going to end up seeing that,

00:16:12.600 where the claims just get so absurd

00:16:13.920 and they continue to run on too long.

00:16:15.320 But I think,

00:16:15.960 and God forbid I be an optimist,

00:16:18.720 I think this might actually be quite useful,

00:16:21.440 because we've had this op going on for quite a while, right?

00:16:24.440 It was woke right,

00:16:26.000 and now it's Gruyper,

00:16:27.080 and it's any slur that's thrown out

00:16:28.720 to try and clean house on this new ragtag coalition

00:16:32.160 that won Trump, the White House,

00:16:34.800 for a second time.

00:16:36.500 They're trying to basically use the old containment tactics

00:16:38.800 that they used against Sam Francis,

00:16:40.640 or during the fusionist era,

00:16:41.740 William F. Buckley,

00:16:42.800 against Pat Buchanan.

00:16:44.180 And this time,

00:16:45.580 I think it might happen in the inverse.

00:16:47.040 Like, you might have a healthy cleaning house

00:16:49.040 of people who do actually do their own research,

00:16:51.180 who are talented,

00:16:51.840 who are credible,

00:16:52.740 who go,

00:16:53.460 no, you've been trying to tar us

00:16:54.920 with the schizo-conspiratoid brush

00:16:56.820 for a long time,

00:16:57.660 just because lots of conspiracy theories

00:16:59.120 turned out to be right,

00:17:00.140 you know, during COVID and the like.

00:17:01.960 And instead,

00:17:03.300 these people are going to so discredit themselves

00:17:05.020 by pandering to a massive third-world audience

00:17:07.860 or bored housewives 0.99

00:17:09.100 that want the Charlie Kirk assassination

00:17:12.120 to be actually a tragic tale

00:17:14.780 of two lovers torn apart

00:17:16.580 by multiple governments

00:17:17.840 and a secret transsexual or something. 0.67

00:17:21.160 And instead, 0.92

00:17:21.800 they will discredit themselves

00:17:23.200 and cut them adrift.

00:17:24.080 And the one encouraging thing

00:17:25.520 of all of the voices of reason,

00:17:27.400 as Tim has said,

00:17:28.380 has been Fuentes coming out multiple times

00:17:30.700 and saying,

00:17:31.340 if they killed Ben Shapiro,

00:17:32.240 would you blame Israel too?

00:17:33.120 There's no evidence here.

00:17:34.040 Like, Ian Carroll was tweeting that,

00:17:35.960 oh, you worked for the Jews 1.00

00:17:37.020 that killed Jesus

00:17:37.700 about three or four days

00:17:39.060 before Charlie Kirk was killed,

00:17:41.560 and now you're coming out

00:17:42.560 and saying,

00:17:43.040 he was about to flip, bro.

00:17:45.300 The IDF and Mossad

00:17:46.660 probably shot him

00:17:47.460 with a thousand-yard gun. 1.00

00:17:48.940 Like, what the fuck 1.00

00:17:50.780 are you talking about? 0.99

00:17:51.940 And so it does mean

00:17:53.140 that we're going to have

00:17:53.820 a sort of

00:17:54.320 an organic season change

00:17:57.780 on the faces and figures

00:18:00.020 that are involved

00:18:00.580 in right-wing discourse,

00:18:01.640 and it might be

00:18:02.520 that the people

00:18:03.100 that actually come equipped

00:18:04.760 with citations and sources

00:18:06.960 and reading ahead of time

00:18:08.260 win out against people

00:18:09.580 that just, you know,

00:18:10.660 pull the threads

00:18:11.620 between various pictures

00:18:12.660 and form the Charlie Day photo

00:18:14.900 from It's Always Sunny.

00:18:16.420 Yeah, well,

00:18:17.100 that's actually a really great point,

00:18:18.920 I mean,

00:18:19.300 because I think we're seeing

00:18:20.420 two filters at play here.

00:18:22.260 The first filter,

00:18:23.300 I think,

00:18:24.400 came around.

00:18:26.300 It started, obviously,

00:18:27.620 with Trump 1,

00:18:28.360 the Never Trumpers,

00:18:29.340 but a lot of them

00:18:29.820 were kind of laundered

00:18:30.520 back into the movement,

00:18:31.980 but then it was

00:18:32.420 when DeSantis ran,

00:18:33.520 they just jumped right back

00:18:34.740 onto the Never Trump train,

00:18:36.080 and this isn't to disparage

00:18:37.120 the people that laid out

00:18:37.900 really good case,

00:18:38.920 a case for DeSantis.

00:18:40.320 I'm personally loyal

00:18:41.360 to President Trump,

00:18:42.480 but there were some people

00:18:43.260 that, you know,

00:18:43.660 they made a compelling case,

00:18:44.940 and they believed in DeSantis,

00:18:46.280 or perhaps they're Floridians,

00:18:47.380 that's a very valid reason as well,

00:18:48.880 but there was a large segment

00:18:50.460 of the pro-DeSantis crowd

00:18:51.980 who were just simply waiting

00:18:53.320 for the first option

00:18:54.260 to get off the Trump train,

00:18:55.580 and they pulled the lever,

00:18:57.320 they pulled the ejection cord.

00:18:59.960 So that was the first filter,

00:19:01.900 and I think that's been

00:19:02.740 really useful

00:19:03.360 because it's sort of

00:19:04.840 siphoned off

00:19:05.740 a good chunk

00:19:06.560 of conservative media

00:19:08.220 who,

00:19:10.060 the most gratuitous explanation

00:19:11.640 are counterproductive.

00:19:12.920 They're just constantly

00:19:13.820 punching right, 0.84

00:19:14.720 et cetera, et cetera.

00:19:15.320 These are your

00:19:15.700 James Lindsay types,

00:19:17.100 and the American public,

00:19:19.120 specifically the conservative

00:19:20.160 sphere in the United States,

00:19:21.980 has sort of learned

00:19:23.080 to just ignore these people,

00:19:24.380 and they've been

00:19:24.680 completely discredited

00:19:25.420 because they're wrong

00:19:25.980 about everything.

00:19:27.080 This includes your

00:19:27.760 Bill Crystals,

00:19:29.820 you know,

00:19:30.080 you name it.

00:19:30.840 There's quite a few people

00:19:32.220 in this wing,

00:19:32.980 and those people

00:19:33.640 were occupying

00:19:34.360 quite a bit of space

00:19:35.460 on the right.

00:19:36.740 They had a lot of resources,

00:19:37.860 a lot of influence,

00:19:38.980 you know,

00:19:39.280 name recognition,

00:19:40.040 et cetera,

00:19:40.500 and so pushing those guys

00:19:41.940 out of the way

00:19:42.540 has created a vacuum

00:19:44.100 on the right,

00:19:44.760 and it's been filled

00:19:45.520 simultaneously

00:19:46.920 by some really solid people,

00:19:48.700 but unfortunately

00:19:49.620 also some crazy people,

00:19:51.080 or people at the very best, 0.78

00:19:52.920 at the very least,

00:19:53.680 are also wrong

00:19:54.960 from a different perspective.

00:19:57.360 And now we're seeing

00:19:58.460 a second filter

00:19:59.360 following,

00:20:00.140 I would say,

00:20:00.540 October 7th,

00:20:01.600 the October 7th attacks,

00:20:03.020 where people just learned

00:20:05.220 about different critiques

00:20:07.400 of Israel

00:20:07.800 for the first time

00:20:08.400 in their lives,

00:20:08.980 and it just completely

00:20:09.800 one-shotted them,

00:20:10.700 and it became

00:20:11.200 their entire goal in life

00:20:14.040 is just to tie everything

00:20:15.500 to Israel.

00:20:16.540 So, again,

00:20:17.400 it's frustrating,

00:20:18.120 I think,

00:20:18.400 in our sphere

00:20:18.840 as Zoomers 0.97

00:20:19.400 who have been,

00:20:20.380 you know,

00:20:21.240 you and me

00:20:21.620 and probably

00:20:22.400 a good majority

00:20:23.060 of the people watching

00:20:23.860 who have been wonks

00:20:25.420 from a young age.

00:20:26.900 Zoomers,

00:20:27.320 obviously,

00:20:27.820 by and large,

00:20:28.480 are fairly disillusioned

00:20:29.740 with Israel,

00:20:30.600 or at least the relationship

00:20:31.360 with Israel,

00:20:32.520 and so,

00:20:33.240 you know,

00:20:33.440 we've been discussing

00:20:34.860 these things

00:20:35.400 at length for years,

00:20:37.140 laying out,

00:20:37.740 you know,

00:20:37.900 what this relationship

00:20:38.660 should look like,

00:20:39.680 you know,

00:20:40.200 what should our,

00:20:41.140 you know,

00:20:42.060 what should our

00:20:42.440 geopolitical strategy be

00:20:43.640 when it comes

00:20:44.140 to the Middle East.

00:20:44.740 October 7th happens

00:20:46.060 and you basically

00:20:46.820 have all of these 0.90

00:20:47.580 schizophrenics storm in, 0.65

00:20:49.520 immediately adopt

00:20:50.680 all these talking points

00:20:51.960 and then take it

00:20:52.680 to the extreme,

00:20:54.380 and then they call you

00:20:55.880 a Zionist shell 0.83

00:20:57.260 for saying,

00:20:57.900 like,

00:20:58.100 hey,

00:20:58.360 no,

00:20:58.660 you're spurging out,

00:21:00.020 that's,

00:21:00.300 like, 0.99

00:21:00.640 that's retarded 0.99

00:21:01.260 on the face, 0.75

00:21:02.180 and they turn around

00:21:03.240 and call you that,

00:21:03.980 and it's like,

00:21:05.300 you just showed up here

00:21:06.320 yesterday,

00:21:06.840 before October 7th,

00:21:07.920 you were,

00:21:08.260 like,

00:21:08.320 a full-blown Zionist, 0.89

00:21:09.080 I mean,

00:21:09.340 Candace Owens,

00:21:10.080 like,

00:21:10.360 hello,

00:21:11.120 like,

00:21:11.380 before October 7th,

00:21:13.020 you know,

00:21:13.420 maybe,

00:21:13.780 I don't know,

00:21:14.160 specifically when her

00:21:15.240 first sort of take

00:21:16.260 on Israel came out,

00:21:17.160 but certainly in her

00:21:18.080 turning point days,

00:21:18.880 she was a vocal advocate

00:21:20.420 for the state of Israel, 0.93

00:21:21.440 so it's just ridiculous, 0.95

00:21:22.980 and I think it's creating 0.83

00:21:23.860 this second filter now,

00:21:25.460 again,

00:21:26.060 for people on the right

00:21:28.040 who have their head

00:21:29.000 on their shoulders

00:21:29.540 and are fairly solid

00:21:31.340 in their convictions

00:21:32.040 are seeing that

00:21:33.080 this sphere of people

00:21:34.140 are also fairly

00:21:35.120 counterproductive,

00:21:35.900 they're ankle-biting

00:21:36.480 at the Trump administration,

00:21:37.580 who I correctly see

00:21:39.440 as sort of our last ticket,

00:21:41.060 our last option,

00:21:42.400 our last viable option,

00:21:43.840 again,

00:21:44.520 if Trump fails,

00:21:45.580 it's pretty much over,

00:21:47.060 so the fact that

00:21:48.800 now these people

00:21:49.600 are being exposed,

00:21:50.660 and this filter,

00:21:51.920 some people on the right

00:21:52.900 that are,

00:21:53.600 you know,

00:21:54.140 kind of wising up

00:21:55.140 are realizing,

00:21:55.720 like,

00:21:56.480 yeah,

00:21:56.840 the filter is here,

00:21:57.740 and that's where,

00:21:58.180 like,

00:21:58.260 Nick Fuentes comes

00:21:59.060 into the fold here,

00:21:59.820 where he's coming out

00:22:00.480 and he's saying,

00:22:00.940 like,

00:22:01.280 no,

00:22:01.640 these Tyler Robinson 0.98

00:22:02.380 conspiracies are ridiculous, 0.99

00:22:04.040 this guy, 1.00

00:22:05.040 by all evidence

00:22:06.640 that we have available to us,

00:22:07.840 killed Charlie Kirk,

00:22:08.740 there's not too much

00:22:10.580 questions left,

00:22:11.680 I mean,

00:22:11.880 there's still some,

00:22:12.660 I'll grant,

00:22:13.240 but by and large,

00:22:14.340 it looks like Tyler Robinson

00:22:15.400 did kill Charlie Kirk,

00:22:17.580 and Fuentes,

00:22:18.700 you know,

00:22:19.060 has said,

00:22:19.400 like, 0.97

00:22:19.480 this is ridiculous, 0.98

00:22:20.200 like, 0.97

00:22:20.440 what are we doing here,

00:22:21.140 how is this productive,

00:22:22.140 not everything is about Israel,

00:22:23.260 so there's a lot of guys

00:22:24.280 who have previously

00:22:24.960 been ostracized

00:22:25.820 that I think are seeing

00:22:27.280 the pathway

00:22:28.360 for sort of rehabilitation

00:22:30.400 in many ways,

00:22:31.520 and they're taking that,

00:22:32.840 again,

00:22:33.480 because I think

00:22:34.180 that second filter

00:22:35.240 is being set up

00:22:35.920 to further tighten

00:22:37.200 the ranks

00:22:37.660 of the conservative

00:22:38.580 commentariat

00:22:39.300 and provide commentary

00:22:41.060 to people on the right

00:22:42.820 that is consistent,

00:22:44.060 that tracks,

00:22:44.740 that's grounded in reality,

00:22:46.360 but also isn't

00:22:48.000 just conceding on everything,

00:22:49.520 like your Bill Crystals

00:22:50.380 and these sorts of things,

00:22:51.040 where they'll use

00:22:51.420 one data point

00:22:52.180 to justify flooding

00:22:53.540 the country with,

00:22:54.620 you know,

00:22:54.880 as many immigrants 1.00

00:22:55.460 as they can fit in.

00:22:56.900 Yeah,

00:22:57.460 I think the important point here

00:22:58.980 is that Israel

00:23:00.380 has become

00:23:00.960 the sort of friend-enemy

00:23:02.040 distinction

00:23:02.580 for a lot of people,

00:23:04.580 and I,

00:23:05.420 last time I was on

00:23:05.900 or on the show

00:23:06.520 about a week or so ago

00:23:07.520 discussing Piers Morgan's

00:23:09.520 crash-out over Curry

00:23:10.500 with Tucker Carlson,

00:23:11.600 we said that

00:23:12.780 actually it's not,

00:23:14.060 because you can have

00:23:14.660 substantive criticisms

00:23:15.780 of Israel,

00:23:16.620 and you can also

00:23:17.360 oppose the Palestinians 1.00

00:23:19.160 because 30% of them 0.98

00:23:20.560 support suicide bombing, 0.51

00:23:21.560 and that's like 0.75

00:23:21.880 the largest population

00:23:22.880 of anywhere on the earth,

00:23:23.800 and they don't exactly 0.71

00:23:24.460 like white people very much,

00:23:25.940 but if you are

00:23:28.040 so focused on

00:23:28.820 an external issue

00:23:30.080 that your answer

00:23:31.300 is not

00:23:31.880 our people,

00:23:33.000 our interests,

00:23:33.880 then you've been

00:23:35.980 misguided,

00:23:36.860 right?

00:23:37.300 So, I mean,

00:23:38.100 for me,

00:23:38.400 the friend-enemy issue

00:23:39.100 is demographics,

00:23:40.240 immigration,

00:23:41.160 culture,

00:23:41.800 identity,

00:23:42.600 ethnicity,

00:23:43.200 etc.,

00:23:43.900 and that's

00:23:44.720 unquestionable,

00:23:45.700 and this is coming

00:23:46.580 from,

00:23:46.880 as you said here,

00:23:47.760 like,

00:23:48.060 we've been

00:23:49.000 politicos for a

00:23:50.000 number of years,

00:23:50.780 we're Zoomers,

00:23:51.360 so we're not wedded

00:23:52.540 to the post-war to booze,

00:23:53.540 if anything,

00:23:53.920 we reject it

00:23:54.700 because we understand

00:23:55.920 that a preference

00:23:56.460 for our people,

00:23:57.160 our history,

00:23:57.540 our heritage,

00:23:57.980 our culture,

00:23:58.420 our nation

00:23:58.760 does not make us

00:23:59.380 Adolf Hitler, 0.80

00:24:00.100 and we're bored

00:24:00.700 of being told that,

00:24:01.420 and the very fact

00:24:02.900 that he's become

00:24:03.340 secular Satan

00:24:03.980 is an excuse 0.95

00:24:04.960 to hit us

00:24:05.740 with inexpungible

00:24:06.780 racial guilt,

00:24:07.440 and the only time

00:24:07.920 we can have

00:24:08.320 a collective identity

00:24:09.020 is when it's negative,

00:24:10.140 so, you know, 1.00

00:24:11.320 fuck you, 1.00

00:24:12.120 that's our attitude 1.00

00:24:12.940 to that,

00:24:13.660 and we've actually

00:24:14.520 both been to Israel

00:24:16.300 on the sort of

00:24:16.960 various trips,

00:24:18.040 and we weren't

00:24:19.200 magically won over

00:24:20.260 by the sales pitch

00:24:21.560 that, like,

00:24:21.880 Ted Cruz says,

00:24:22.600 which is,

00:24:23.180 you know,

00:24:23.580 if Israel falls,

00:24:25.500 then so does America,

00:24:26.540 it's, you know,

00:24:27.220 we have a religious duty,

00:24:28.460 it's like,

00:24:28.780 no,

00:24:29.020 it's a country

00:24:29.480 like anywhere else,

00:24:30.320 and if they have

00:24:30.960 undue influence

00:24:31.600 over our politics,

00:24:32.800 they should be repudiated,

00:24:34.340 and if they're allowed

00:24:35.260 to defend their own people

00:24:36.520 and have a nation

00:24:37.560 for their own interest,

00:24:39.020 cool,

00:24:39.480 whatever,

00:24:39.880 don't care,

00:24:40.420 I just want that

00:24:40.920 for my own people,

00:24:41.640 thank you very much,

00:24:42.480 and if you don't,

00:24:43.200 if I think,

00:24:43.760 if you don't have

00:24:44.420 that approach,

00:24:45.140 which I think,

00:24:46.080 despite some of the

00:24:46.800 insulting things

00:24:47.440 that Fuentes has said

00:24:49.060 about Jewish people

00:24:50.620 that have got their

00:24:51.060 hackles up,

00:24:52.280 I think that is his approach,

00:24:54.460 I think that's become

00:24:55.480 the dividing line,

00:24:56.480 and now,

00:24:57.040 this is why he's

00:24:57.980 sort of broken away

00:24:59.240 from people

00:25:00.080 that he was

00:25:00.700 lumped in with

00:25:02.580 for a very long time

00:25:03.700 to become

00:25:04.460 a pretty prominent voice,

00:25:06.800 and I think

00:25:07.640 the other people

00:25:08.420 that have discredited

00:25:09.040 themselves,

00:25:10.140 they're engaged

00:25:11.140 in political discourse,

00:25:12.320 not because

00:25:13.300 they see this as a

00:25:15.120 kind of bringing

00:25:16.720 the team together

00:25:17.560 in a huddle

00:25:18.220 to work out

00:25:18.960 what the strategy is

00:25:19.700 to win the game,

00:25:20.500 like you said about

00:25:21.060 Kirk being a quarterback,

00:25:22.040 right,

00:25:22.460 his ambition was to

00:25:23.720 move the ball down the field,

00:25:24.560 this is something

00:25:24.940 that Doyle talks about

00:25:25.680 all the time,

00:25:26.620 and you might not agree

00:25:27.860 with everyone on the team,

00:25:28.800 but you do need to get

00:25:29.440 the team together

00:25:30.020 for everyone to play

00:25:30.700 their part,

00:25:31.500 and so,

00:25:32.220 I think that

00:25:33.120 whether it's Nick,

00:25:34.100 whether it's Doyle,

00:25:34.800 whether it's us,

00:25:35.740 we don't see this

00:25:36.600 as an eternal conversation,

00:25:38.020 we're not bought into

00:25:38.920 the liberal lie

00:25:40.520 of everything can be

00:25:42.260 resolved via debate,

00:25:43.380 no,

00:25:43.680 we're trying to,

00:25:44.580 this show takes a lot

00:25:46.000 of things for granted

00:25:46.740 that our viewers

00:25:47.600 already agree with,

00:25:48.800 and so we're discussing

00:25:50.140 the news of the day

00:25:51.300 in light of our

00:25:52.480 pre-existing priors

00:25:53.520 that we're bringing

00:25:54.060 to bear on the conversation

00:25:54.940 to say,

00:25:55.920 how do we interpret

00:25:56.800 these news stories,

00:25:58.380 and what do we do

00:25:59.340 about the problems

00:25:59.960 facing our respective

00:26:00.780 countries,

00:26:01.380 this is basically

00:26:02.300 like an open air

00:26:03.280 strategy meeting,

00:26:04.400 whereas,

00:26:05.340 as Oran said

00:26:06.140 in his interview

00:26:06.600 with you,

00:26:06.860 which was very good

00:26:07.340 and everyone should

00:26:07.720 go watch by the way,

00:26:08.960 for Candace

00:26:10.280 and Ian Carroll

00:26:11.160 and all the other people,

00:26:12.380 it's Netflix,

00:26:13.180 you are just a character

00:26:14.040 in their drama,

00:26:14.760 your death is a plot point,

00:26:16.180 the fall of the country

00:26:17.180 is just a cliffhanger

00:26:18.480 about which they will

00:26:19.720 make a whole other season,

00:26:21.360 and they've already got

00:26:21.960 the budget for it in mind,

00:26:23.120 so these people

00:26:23.680 are not engaged

00:26:24.400 in the same conversation

00:26:25.520 as you,

00:26:25.860 they're not engaged

00:26:26.520 in how do we fix

00:26:27.460 our country,

00:26:28.100 how do we solve

00:26:28.580 these problems,

00:26:29.400 these people are engaged

00:26:30.760 in theatre,

00:26:32.400 it's a circus,

00:26:33.120 it's a sideshow,

00:26:33.900 it's a distraction,

00:26:34.780 and so the dividing line

00:26:35.580 will end up being

00:26:36.180 not just credibility,

00:26:37.700 not just are you serious

00:26:38.920 on these given issues

00:26:40.240 while also having

00:26:41.300 a broad perspective

00:26:42.960 on things like

00:26:43.500 foreign policy

00:26:44.180 and the like,

00:26:45.760 it is are you in this

00:26:47.420 seriously,

00:26:48.680 are you in this

00:26:49.440 to basically feed

00:26:50.500 talking points

00:26:51.300 to risk-averse

00:26:52.160 politicians,

00:26:52.960 to popularise issues

00:26:54.200 and enforce issues

00:26:55.660 that they have to confront,

00:26:56.960 are you in this

00:26:57.620 to normalise

00:26:59.120 certain conversation topics,

00:27:00.720 to come up

00:27:01.220 with policy ideas,

00:27:02.420 are you in this

00:27:02.940 to raise the awareness

00:27:04.700 and the identity

00:27:05.500 of the left-behind

00:27:06.500 constituencies

00:27:07.020 of our countries

00:27:07.820 to then not just

00:27:08.760 vote once every

00:27:09.800 four or five years

00:27:10.680 but also get involved

00:27:11.700 in politics,

00:27:12.580 you know,

00:27:12.780 take up positions

00:27:13.480 in NGOs

00:27:15.140 and in local

00:27:16.300 government

00:27:16.700 and in various

00:27:18.360 congressional

00:27:18.880 or parliamentary

00:27:19.440 staff positions

00:27:20.180 to influence

00:27:21.040 policy makers,

00:27:22.080 are you engaged

00:27:22.660 in that enterprise,

00:27:23.800 like actually

00:27:24.300 practically doing

00:27:25.120 things,

00:27:25.720 or are you sitting

00:27:26.500 there saying,

00:27:27.760 tune in tomorrow

00:27:28.760 for the next

00:27:29.360 bombshell,

00:27:30.180 I just got an email

00:27:31.040 or a dream

00:27:32.040 or a vision

00:27:32.740 from Hare Krishna

00:27:33.840 telling me

00:27:34.800 that Charlie Cook

00:27:36.140 was betrayed

00:27:36.760 by his grandparents,

00:27:39.120 like just,

00:27:40.040 okay, 1.00

00:27:40.480 cut this shit out, 1.00

00:27:41.540 we have things 1.00

00:27:42.100 to do.

00:27:43.740 Yeah,

00:27:43.940 it's people that

00:27:45.120 don't realize

00:27:46.140 what the stakes are

00:27:47.200 or perhaps

00:27:48.020 even more sinister

00:27:49.080 they do realize

00:27:50.060 and they actively

00:27:50.920 are participating

00:27:52.560 in this because

00:27:53.120 they know they can

00:27:53.740 capitalize on this

00:27:54.940 demise and I think

00:27:55.680 that's the most

00:27:56.580 pernicious part

00:27:57.940 about it all

00:27:58.600 because someone

00:27:59.600 like Candace Owens,

00:28:00.500 I imagine she has

00:28:01.400 received over the years

00:28:02.400 quite a few threats

00:28:03.800 I would imagine

00:28:04.360 as everyone in the

00:28:05.260 commentary space

00:28:06.000 at the highest level

00:28:06.560 has,

00:28:07.220 so in her case,

00:28:08.840 Ian Carroll,

00:28:09.340 no one cares,

00:28:10.000 I mean he's probably

00:28:10.400 got nothing,

00:28:11.020 but Candace Owens,

00:28:12.360 you know,

00:28:13.080 she's been high

00:28:13.800 profile for quite

00:28:14.880 a long time

00:28:15.660 and her vocal

00:28:16.500 support for Donald

00:28:17.160 Trump obviously

00:28:18.020 put a target

00:28:18.540 on her back

00:28:19.240 as it did for

00:28:21.340 everyone else

00:28:21.660 in the space,

00:28:22.220 so she understands

00:28:23.420 probably,

00:28:24.040 I would assume,

00:28:25.040 the stakes

00:28:25.620 of what's going

00:28:26.700 on,

00:28:27.140 I would hope

00:28:28.160 that she understands

00:28:29.380 that again,

00:28:30.220 I'll say it again,

00:28:31.640 Donald Trump

00:28:32.200 really is sort

00:28:33.080 of the last stand,

00:28:34.500 I mean we ran

00:28:35.180 out of time

00:28:35.860 like 10 years ago,

00:28:37.120 so this is like

00:28:37.960 already a big lift

00:28:39.260 from this movement

00:28:40.660 and anything

00:28:43.200 that's actively

00:28:44.000 undermining it

00:28:44.700 is just nonsensical.

00:28:46.140 Quickly on that,

00:28:47.800 as far as solving

00:28:48.520 problems and the

00:28:49.580 assassination having

00:28:50.440 worked,

00:28:50.780 I wanted to tie

00:28:51.180 those two threads

00:28:51.800 together.

00:28:53.340 In the interest

00:28:54.180 of solving problems,

00:28:55.100 let's be clear

00:28:56.300 here to again

00:28:57.800 our audience

00:28:58.620 who are broadly

00:28:59.540 supportive of the

00:29:00.240 Trump administration

00:29:00.860 and are definitely

00:29:02.020 glad that he won

00:29:02.820 the last election

00:29:03.500 compared to the

00:29:04.080 alternative.

00:29:05.040 The Trump

00:29:05.400 administration

00:29:06.020 really have made

00:29:07.500 good on that

00:29:08.160 meme that was

00:29:08.740 being circulated

00:29:09.560 in the aftermath

00:29:10.160 of Kirk's murder

00:29:10.940 where it said

00:29:11.640 we are going to

00:29:12.480 do absolutely

00:29:13.680 nothing to you.

00:29:14.920 They've done

00:29:15.260 nothing.

00:29:16.400 They've declared

00:29:17.400 Antifa a terrorist

00:29:18.260 organization.

00:29:19.260 I know there are

00:29:19.900 people behind the

00:29:20.600 scenes,

00:29:21.080 there are our

00:29:21.720 guys working

00:29:22.780 in the administration

00:29:23.440 quietly trying to

00:29:25.140 document all of

00:29:26.080 Antifa's international

00:29:27.020 activity.

00:29:27.580 I've made a video

00:29:28.180 in the last week

00:29:29.020 that has made its

00:29:32.400 way to DC

00:29:32.900 pointing out that

00:29:34.300 Hope Not Hate,

00:29:34.940 which is a

00:29:35.560 self-described

00:29:36.040 anti-fascist

00:29:36.960 communist doxing

00:29:38.080 organization that

00:29:39.020 doxed Roreg

00:29:39.960 Nationalists that 0.93

00:29:40.880 has defamed me,

00:29:42.340 that has attacked

00:29:43.520 politicians and

00:29:44.680 put people in the

00:29:45.500 firing line of

00:29:46.100 jihadists,

00:29:47.140 has links to the

00:29:48.040 intelligence agencies

00:29:48.920 and the sitting

00:29:49.460 government and they

00:29:50.340 get funding from

00:29:51.720 the home office and

00:29:52.700 they're protected by

00:29:53.160 the police and

00:29:53.780 they've skirted the

00:29:54.240 law, all these

00:29:55.080 things and they're

00:29:55.700 feeding information

00:29:56.380 to Swedish Antifa

00:29:57.820 networks and have

00:29:58.580 gotten people attacked

00:29:59.180 before.

00:29:59.960 So they should be

00:30:01.240 putting these things

00:30:01.700 on their radar but

00:30:03.580 nothing's been done.

00:30:04.180 They haven't been

00:30:05.000 rolled up, their

00:30:05.860 funding hasn't been

00:30:06.800 seized and

00:30:08.240 redistributed back

00:30:10.640 to the families of

00:30:11.800 those affected like

00:30:12.760 Aaron Danielson or

00:30:13.860 the Kirk.

00:30:14.880 Like nobody's been

00:30:16.580 cracked down on yet.

00:30:17.740 I understand that

00:30:18.600 people are still

00:30:19.040 mourning, I understand

00:30:19.960 that there's quiet

00:30:20.560 work going on in the

00:30:21.560 halls of power but

00:30:22.860 people have to see

00:30:23.800 results.

00:30:24.440 You're not going to

00:30:24.980 save the Republic with

00:30:25.960 hype edits and pissing 0.74

00:30:27.160 off Sabrina Carpenter. 1.00

00:30:28.280 It's just not good

00:30:28.880 enough, right?

00:30:29.760 You need to start

00:30:31.000 cracking down on these

00:30:31.540 people because people

00:30:32.400 are getting killed.

00:30:32.940 And nobody knows,

00:30:35.120 you know, the police

00:30:36.640 are still investigating

00:30:37.200 I'm sure, why some

00:30:38.960 nutjob fired three

00:30:40.440 shots at Tim's

00:30:41.200 compound.

00:30:41.780 But it's not a

00:30:42.700 non-zero chance, it's

00:30:43.820 yet another disgruntled

00:30:44.860 leftist who feels

00:30:45.680 empowered about the

00:30:46.700 fact that Charlie

00:30:47.820 Kirk's assassination

00:30:48.440 seems to have been a

00:30:49.220 success for everyone

00:30:50.200 except Tyler Robinson

00:30:51.340 who's currently on

00:30:52.040 trial.

00:30:52.440 But all the people

00:30:53.120 that celebrated it,

00:30:54.020 all of the copycats

00:30:55.020 that are going to

00:30:55.440 come forward,

00:30:56.240 these people will be

00:30:57.800 allowed to get away

00:30:58.420 with it if the Trump

00:30:59.320 administration

00:30:59.720 doesn't act.

00:31:00.500 And they need to

00:31:01.500 act to prevent

00:31:02.520 further Charlie

00:31:03.320 Kirk's.

00:31:04.200 Yeah.

00:31:04.600 I mean, I know the

00:31:05.800 foreign terror 1.00

00:31:06.620 organization listing

00:31:08.380 gave the DOJ some

00:31:10.120 toys to play with

00:31:11.260 as far as, I won't

00:31:14.020 speculate because some

00:31:14.960 of it's insider

00:31:15.480 information, but some

00:31:16.120 of the options that

00:31:16.820 they have at their

00:31:17.400 disposal, it certainly

00:31:18.520 has expanded the

00:31:19.380 purview of that.

00:31:20.340 And that is true and

00:31:21.240 that's being communicated

00:31:21.900 to me and I understand

00:31:22.720 that and I am happy

00:31:24.160 with that.

00:31:24.680 And like you said,

00:31:26.560 the administration has

00:31:28.220 a lot of patriots

00:31:29.140 working in there and

00:31:29.860 they're actively working

00:31:31.240 to save this country.

00:31:32.060 There's no question

00:31:32.480 about that.

00:31:33.040 But I agree with your

00:31:34.620 point is, is which

00:31:36.060 like, let's communicate

00:31:37.300 that to the American

00:31:38.240 people through arrests

00:31:40.480 and through seizures

00:31:42.380 rather than hearsay

00:31:45.100 coming from people on

00:31:46.180 the Hill.

00:31:46.500 It's just not, it's not

00:31:47.820 good enough, especially

00:31:48.480 because on the

00:31:49.460 immigration side,

00:31:50.900 they're publicizing all

00:31:52.080 their victories to the

00:31:52.920 point, like you said,

00:31:53.580 where we have hype

00:31:54.660 edits and TikToks

00:31:55.820 and that sort of

00:31:56.140 thing.

00:31:56.820 And, you know, I

00:31:57.720 think the reason people

00:31:58.720 are growing frustrated

00:31:59.420 at that is like, that

00:32:01.100 would be great if that

00:32:02.100 was just like on the

00:32:03.600 side and we have that

00:32:05.080 and all of the sort of

00:32:06.780 we would have edits of

00:32:08.660 all of the goals of the

00:32:09.740 Trump administration.

00:32:11.520 Unfortunately, we're

00:32:12.120 just, we're not there.

00:32:13.540 And the thing about

00:32:14.860 leftist violence,

00:32:16.280 political violence is

00:32:17.120 the situation is still

00:32:18.340 unraveling.

00:32:19.060 The republic is still

00:32:19.920 dissolving in many ways

00:32:21.300 and it's going to ramp

00:32:22.560 up.

00:32:22.820 And if you don't

00:32:23.260 create that environment

00:32:24.140 of fear, which, you

00:32:26.620 know, to be fair, on

00:32:27.620 the immigration side,

00:32:28.500 part of the reason

00:32:28.920 you're seeing so many

00:32:29.460 self-deportations is

00:32:30.520 because the Trump

00:32:31.080 administration has

00:32:31.860 created an environment

00:32:32.800 that is quite hostile

00:32:34.280 towards people ripping

00:32:36.060 off the American 0.91

00:32:36.840 people, using or

00:32:38.840 exploiting our

00:32:39.520 immigration systems.

00:32:40.960 But you have to

00:32:42.300 create that environment

00:32:43.020 with the political

00:32:44.800 violence situation.

00:32:45.960 I mean, you have to

00:32:46.620 create an environment

00:32:47.100 where you would be

00:32:48.060 absolutely petrified to

00:32:48.840 take shots at the,

00:32:50.000 you know, the compound

00:32:50.880 of Tim Pool.

00:32:51.640 That wouldn't even

00:32:52.200 occur to you because

00:32:53.000 you would be so

00:32:54.260 petrified of the state

00:32:56.280 coming down on you

00:32:56.920 with the full force.

00:32:57.920 And the fact that

00:32:59.020 that's not the

00:32:59.940 environment that's

00:33:00.700 been created, it

00:33:01.360 shouldn't be terribly

00:33:03.080 difficult either,

00:33:04.860 especially considering

00:33:05.820 the options that the

00:33:06.720 Biden administration

00:33:07.420 used against right

00:33:08.780 wingers for doing

00:33:09.640 far, far less.

00:33:11.260 I mean, like, you

00:33:11.840 can just look at

00:33:12.480 January 6th and,

00:33:13.680 you know, you knock

00:33:14.100 over a lamp and

00:33:14.800 you're getting thrown

00:33:15.200 in solitary.

00:33:15.960 So, I mean, it's 0.91

00:33:16.400 absolutely ridiculous 0.80

00:33:17.080 ridiculous that the 0.98

00:33:18.500 Trump administration 0.87

00:33:19.260 isn't able to get

00:33:21.300 this communicated to

00:33:22.080 the American people

00:33:22.700 like, hey, we're on

00:33:24.160 it, we're on it.

00:33:24.940 That needs to be a

00:33:25.820 priority because,

00:33:27.060 again, people, you

00:33:28.860 know, not to big up

00:33:29.580 these guys, but people

00:33:30.820 look up to Tim Pool

00:33:31.880 for his commentary.

00:33:32.860 I've always said for

00:33:33.740 years that Tim Pool

00:33:34.640 probably has the best

00:33:35.660 conversion rate of

00:33:36.620 libertarians to MAGA.

00:33:38.100 I think there's

00:33:38.540 something to be said

00:33:39.200 about that.

00:33:40.040 There's a lot of

00:33:40.680 people that really

00:33:41.260 value Tim Pool's

00:33:42.300 insights.

00:33:42.760 He kind of does

00:33:43.960 bring a different

00:33:44.480 perspective to the

00:33:45.280 table, sort of being

00:33:46.040 in many ways kind of

00:33:47.720 a disaffected liberal

00:33:49.280 and a lot of people

00:33:49.860 resonate with that.

00:33:51.740 And the left knows

00:33:52.820 that.

00:33:53.160 The left knows that.

00:33:54.020 Again, they understand

00:33:55.020 that assassinations do

00:33:56.800 work and that's why

00:33:58.360 the Trump administration

00:33:58.980 does get on top of

00:33:59.740 this because we can't

00:34:00.380 lose these guys.

00:34:01.180 Because when you lose

00:34:01.860 these guys, it just

00:34:02.580 creates a vacuum and

00:34:03.760 typically it gets filled

00:34:04.980 with opportunists,

00:34:06.180 people that can

00:34:06.680 capitalize on the

00:34:07.380 situation as we're

00:34:08.280 seeing with Candace

00:34:10.200 Owens. 0.95

00:34:10.940 So, with that, I

00:34:12.660 think we should

00:34:13.140 jump into our

00:34:13.800 next story.

00:34:15.640 This story, obviously,

00:34:16.880 is doing the rounds

00:34:18.280 on Twitter specifically.

00:34:19.580 But I will say,

00:34:20.580 where it's really

00:34:21.140 seemed to dominate

00:34:21.780 is my Instagram

00:34:22.560 reels.

00:34:23.160 I don't know,

00:34:23.600 Connor, if you've

00:34:24.140 noticed, but Instagram

00:34:25.420 reels has really

00:34:26.280 become a wild west

00:34:27.400 in recent weeks,

00:34:29.140 really recent months.

00:34:30.740 It's like every

00:34:31.340 other reel I get

00:34:32.200 is like slurs and

00:34:33.720 like Agartha edits

00:34:34.700 and everything.

00:34:35.060 It feels like a

00:34:36.160 total containment

00:34:37.420 breach.

00:34:38.100 But on top of that,

00:34:39.400 what I'm getting

00:34:39.780 constant Instagram

00:34:40.660 reels for, and I

00:34:41.440 know this isn't

00:34:42.020 targeted at me

00:34:42.700 because everyone

00:34:43.140 else is saying the

00:34:43.840 same thing, is

00:34:44.900 clip after clip

00:34:46.060 from the Nick

00:34:46.740 Fuentes-Piers

00:34:48.280 Morgan debate.

00:34:49.900 Now, obviously,

00:34:51.100 Fuentes is kind

00:34:52.480 of, he's kind

00:34:53.280 of, he's got a

00:34:54.080 hot streak right

00:34:54.820 now.

00:34:55.240 His Tucker Carlson

00:34:56.860 interview, obviously,

00:34:58.800 went mega viral,

00:34:59.700 one of Tucker's

00:35:00.240 biggest interviews

00:35:00.840 he's ever done as

00:35:01.900 far as, you know,

00:35:02.800 exposure goes, as

00:35:04.280 far as reach goes.

00:35:05.680 And a lot of people

00:35:06.360 on the right, you

00:35:08.220 know, specifically

00:35:08.760 in our circles have

00:35:11.100 expressed some

00:35:12.040 discontent with

00:35:12.860 this.

00:35:13.140 They're saying,

00:35:13.560 well, you know,

00:35:14.520 you're allowing him

00:35:15.360 to sort of

00:35:15.820 rehabilitate back

00:35:16.880 into the right

00:35:17.520 considering, you

00:35:18.760 know, he's been, I

00:35:20.460 mean, he was

00:35:20.940 working against the

00:35:21.780 Trump campaign in

00:35:22.780 2024.

00:35:23.840 He was actively

00:35:24.840 trying to undermine

00:35:26.180 the Trump campaign.

00:35:27.860 And so many people

00:35:29.140 are frustrated that it

00:35:30.100 seems like he's being

00:35:30.820 rewarded for

00:35:31.560 disloyalty in many

00:35:32.860 regards.

00:35:34.020 And I certainly, I

00:35:35.360 certainly see that as

00:35:36.480 well.

00:35:36.820 It is a bit

00:35:37.920 frustrating, but

00:35:39.460 instead of that, I

00:35:40.300 think it's more

00:35:40.860 important to tap into

00:35:41.820 why specifically is

00:35:43.280 Nick Fuentes resonating

00:35:45.500 so much with young

00:35:46.500 people.

00:35:47.420 And I do think I'm

00:35:48.720 not tying the two,

00:35:49.500 but I do think it

00:35:50.120 ties in with what

00:35:51.480 creates Tyler Robinson's

00:35:52.700 as, as, as it is like

00:35:54.080 a left-wing analog is

00:35:56.060 the regime is

00:35:57.080 completely delegitimized.

00:35:58.300 There's nothing for

00:35:59.160 young people to believe

00:36:00.160 in.

00:36:00.500 There's nothing for

00:36:01.120 young people to buy 0.84

00:36:01.900 into.

00:36:02.340 Um, our

00:36:03.320 inheritance has been

00:36:04.100 robbed before our

00:36:05.000 very own eyes.

00:36:06.180 And, uh, yeah, people

00:36:07.440 are kind of like Piers

00:36:08.400 Morgan in many ways,

00:36:09.540 correct me if I'm

00:36:10.060 wrong, but, um, he

00:36:11.440 really just is the

00:36:12.960 face of like the

00:36:14.020 globalist, um, regime

00:36:16.400 messaging.

00:36:17.260 He's kind of the

00:36:18.040 mouthpiece.

00:36:18.560 He's kind of the, uh,

00:36:20.280 the, uh, spokesperson

00:36:21.000 in many ways.

00:36:22.160 And so if you could

00:36:23.080 pick like a worse

00:36:24.240 person to throw up

00:36:25.480 against Nick Fuentes,

00:36:26.240 I can't imagine one

00:36:27.480 like Piers Morgan

00:36:28.540 might be the worst

00:36:29.340 possible guy for that

00:36:30.520 because does anyone

00:36:32.240 actually know what

00:36:33.160 Piers Morgan's like

00:36:34.740 philosophical convictions

00:36:36.220 are beyond like what

00:36:38.160 the WEF would parent

00:36:39.500 or what you would see

00:36:40.800 from a infographic

00:36:42.160 coming out of the

00:36:43.080 BBC, this guy, he's

00:36:44.620 really just is vapid.

00:36:47.300 He doesn't, he

00:36:48.340 doesn't reflect, he

00:36:49.200 doesn't reflect anything

00:36:50.100 interesting or intriguing

00:36:51.020 about life.

00:36:51.580 It's just standard

00:36:52.640 boilerplate neoliberal,

00:36:54.660 um, politics.

00:36:56.160 So this is the worst

00:36:57.640 possible, worst possible

00:36:59.080 guy to throw up

00:36:59.700 against Nick Fuentes

00:37:00.320 because no matter

00:37:01.360 what Piers, no matter

00:37:02.580 what data point he

00:37:03.440 threw at him, no matter

00:37:04.120 what video he threw

00:37:05.140 at him, no matter

00:37:05.740 what critique, whatever,

00:37:07.120 you could throw the

00:37:07.600 best, um, you know,

00:37:09.000 oppa research you

00:37:09.900 wanted at Nick Fuentes

00:37:10.720 on an interview.

00:37:11.720 Piers Morgan is going

00:37:12.600 to lose that in the

00:37:13.820 eyes of Zoomers because 0.95

00:37:15.340 in the Zoomers' eyes, 0.96

00:37:16.920 Piers Morgan is not a

00:37:17.940 real person.

00:37:18.500 He's been delegitimized.

00:37:19.680 He's just a, he's a

00:37:21.700 shell. 0.94

00:37:22.200 He's a, he's a, he's

00:37:24.060 an avatar of the regime

00:37:26.580 of the politics that

00:37:28.140 have destroyed us.

00:37:29.800 And the reason I brought

00:37:30.780 up Tyler Robinson is I

00:37:31.620 think the left-wing

00:37:32.620 analog is, is someone

00:37:33.660 like him.

00:37:34.140 Again, a Zoomer that 1.00

00:37:36.220 has correctly identified

00:37:37.720 that their inheritance

00:37:38.420 has been stolen.

00:37:38.900 There's nothing for them

00:37:39.420 to buy into, but rather

00:37:41.020 than sort of delving

00:37:42.260 into right-wing politics,

00:37:43.400 which, uh, is structured

00:37:44.480 on hierarchy and will

00:37:45.360 bring some order about

00:37:46.480 to your life.

00:37:47.280 Um, it's a life, life

00:37:48.420 boat in many ways.

00:37:49.280 Christianity is

00:37:50.100 obviously intrinsically

00:37:51.360 tied to it.

00:37:52.220 The left-wing analog is

00:37:53.560 self-destruction and

00:37:55.040 that's what Tyler Robinson

00:37:55.960 is engaged in.

00:37:56.840 Uh, his boyfriend is

00:37:58.160 certainly an indicator

00:37:59.400 of that.

00:37:59.740 This is someone that, uh,

00:38:00.720 cuts themselves up and, 0.70

00:38:01.980 and wears wigs and

00:38:03.080 whatnot and just really

00:38:04.180 at every turn attempts

00:38:05.920 to destroy themselves.

00:38:07.380 Um, it's really the

00:38:08.380 perfect picture of

00:38:09.560 left-wing politics, what

00:38:10.560 it does to a human

00:38:11.200 being.

00:38:11.980 Um, but the reason I'm,

00:38:13.480 I'm kind of contrasting

00:38:14.520 both of those is to

00:38:15.260 illustrate the point

00:38:15.980 that Zoomers, there's 1.00

00:38:18.000 nothing for them to buy

00:38:18.920 into, everything is

00:38:20.160 completely delegitimized.

00:38:21.800 They can feel the, um,

00:38:23.780 instability under their

00:38:24.860 feet.

00:38:25.260 They can feel that the

00:38:26.160 Republic is dissolving

00:38:27.320 and they're looking at

00:38:28.120 their options.

00:38:28.680 They're looking at the

00:38:29.380 menu.

00:38:29.860 And Nick Fuentes, again,

00:38:31.440 I, I, I've laid out the

00:38:32.640 critiques.

00:38:33.120 I am really frustrated,

00:38:34.100 um, with his continued,

00:38:35.740 um, undermining of the

00:38:37.360 Trump administration.

00:38:37.960 I just think it's not

00:38:39.120 useful.

00:38:39.560 I think it's

00:38:40.060 counterproductive.

00:38:41.240 Um, but he is

00:38:42.680 providing something.

00:38:44.180 He is, he's providing,

00:38:45.240 um, he's providing

00:38:47.320 Zoomers with an avatar 1.00

00:38:49.400 to sort of channel the

00:38:51.340 energy to, to send a

00:38:53.220 message to these older

00:38:54.660 generations that like,

00:38:55.720 look, we don't believe in

00:38:56.420 this anymore.

00:38:57.240 Uh, this means nothing to

00:38:58.680 me, the system, I'm not

00:39:00.280 going to inherit any of

00:39:01.020 it.

00:39:01.160 So I don't really care.

00:39:03.700 Yeah.

00:39:04.100 I think for young men, 0.98

00:39:05.040 it's you either die 0.53

00:39:06.180 Nick Fuentes or you live 0.99

00:39:07.260 long enough to see

00:39:08.020 yourself become a, a

00:39:09.380 Lance Twiggs.

00:39:10.080 I mean, in his Tucker

00:39:11.660 interview, he actually

00:39:12.640 pointed out the kinds of

00:39:13.980 people that Lance Twiggs

00:39:15.700 and Tyler Robinson are

00:39:16.820 very well.

00:39:17.780 They often form

00:39:19.560 parasocial relationships

00:39:20.540 with, uh, chat GPT and

00:39:23.380 treat it like a therapist.

00:39:24.500 And I think that's sort of

00:39:25.700 like trying to shake one of

00:39:26.800 the tendrils of the

00:39:27.960 beyonders from D and D

00:39:29.320 like you're, you're

00:39:30.060 basically grasping,

00:39:31.540 grasping some sort of

00:39:33.060 amorphous appendage from a

00:39:34.680 demon that you don't quite

00:39:35.420 understand there.

00:39:36.180 It's basically like playing

00:39:37.020 with a Ouija board.

00:39:37.680 Um, also, you know,

00:39:38.620 addicted to like THC vape

00:39:39.960 pens and, uh, sitting

00:39:42.200 there doing scrolling

00:39:42.840 Instagram reels all the

00:39:43.780 time.

00:39:44.040 All of this was in the,

00:39:44.840 in the text with a third

00:39:45.820 party that got the

00:39:47.360 clothes on that sub stack.

00:39:48.300 So we're really building

00:39:48.900 a picture of these 0.96

00:39:50.180 resentful porn addicted 0.96

00:39:52.680 freaks who have 0.95

00:39:53.720 outsourced their internal 0.92

00:39:55.440 monologue to, uh,

00:39:57.480 algorithmic programming

00:39:58.920 and, uh, simulacra

00:40:01.380 conversations with AI.

00:40:02.980 And it's really unhealthy

00:40:04.180 and it generates horrible

00:40:05.520 people.

00:40:06.020 Whereas to the inverse,

00:40:07.720 you've got, and I, I,

00:40:09.520 I think, uh, so there's a

00:40:12.000 few directions I want to

00:40:12.560 go with this.

00:40:13.080 First, I will, I will

00:40:13.820 perhaps steel man Nick's,

00:40:15.420 uh, disloyalty because I

00:40:16.960 feel as someone who has

00:40:18.300 also been kicked out of

00:40:19.260 the club for pretty much

00:40:20.320 every political party in

00:40:21.420 the UK, if you're trying

00:40:23.140 to force an issue, uh,

00:40:24.900 you'll, you'll try and

00:40:26.180 use whatever political

00:40:26.980 leverage you can to force

00:40:28.300 that issue.

00:40:28.680 Now, I think Nick made a

00:40:30.620 very poor political

00:40:32.240 calculation by, uh, floating

00:40:34.720 support for Gavin Newsom

00:40:36.480 or trying to run yay

00:40:37.600 2024, uh, and even

00:40:40.560 suggesting that Kamala 0.88

00:40:41.480 was brat. 0.77

00:40:42.080 Like, all of these things

00:40:42.880 are hyperbolic, but

00:40:44.100 you're right, it did show

00:40:45.100 disloyalty to the

00:40:45.900 administration.

00:40:46.560 It meant his, his

00:40:47.520 concerns were less

00:40:48.300 listened to before the

00:40:49.280 election cycle.

00:40:49.860 But since the election

00:40:50.860 cycle, uh, being too

00:40:53.360 large to ignore, he is

00:40:55.080 trying to force the

00:40:56.120 administration to

00:40:56.780 basically live up to

00:40:57.600 their own principles, to

00:40:58.440 be America first, to

00:41:00.020 ensure that America is

00:41:01.240 governed for the interest

00:41:02.760 of heritage Americans

00:41:04.040 rather than various

00:41:05.520 client groups imported

00:41:06.720 into the country, or

00:41:08.060 various foreign lobbies

00:41:09.440 who have diasporas in

00:41:10.520 the country, but also

00:41:11.520 nations elsewhere they

00:41:13.040 can escape to if America 0.53

00:41:14.080 goes belly up, which it

00:41:15.080 increasingly is looking

00:41:15.960 likely to.

00:41:17.060 And so, what he's trying

00:41:18.280 to do is apply carrot and

00:41:21.240 stick.

00:41:21.880 Like, Doyle and Oron and

00:41:24.640 yourself are the carrots

00:41:26.020 for the administration when

00:41:27.240 they don't just post hype

00:41:28.740 edits, they actually do the

00:41:29.720 deportations in order to

00:41:31.080 film said hype edits.

00:41:32.120 Whereas Nick is saying, I

00:41:35.040 will apply stick in case

00:41:36.620 that you think that you

00:41:38.320 could deploy troops in

00:41:39.760 the aftermath of the

00:41:41.220 Iran nuclear facility

00:41:42.360 bombing and basically get

00:41:43.760 away with appeasing the

00:41:44.560 neoconservatives.

00:41:45.240 No, remember your base is

00:41:46.460 us.

00:41:46.700 And I think there's

00:41:47.120 actually a useful function

00:41:48.040 there, whether or not

00:41:49.380 hyperbole or saying that

00:41:51.640 Hitler was cool because of 1.00

00:41:52.420 the hype edits might be

00:41:53.420 able to detract from

00:41:55.100 whether or not the

00:41:56.140 administration can

00:41:56.920 actually bring him into

00:41:57.540 the fold.

00:41:58.200 But in terms of Piers

00:41:59.020 Morgan, you're right.

00:42:00.360 Piers Morgan is an avatar

00:42:01.440 of the acceptable

00:42:04.420 transgressions within the

00:42:05.920 liberal Overton window.

00:42:07.380 So, perfect example of

00:42:08.900 this, we have a woman

00:42:09.600 named Kelly J. 0.87

00:42:10.240 Keene, who I think has

00:42:11.040 been on Tim's channel

00:42:11.800 before.

00:42:12.800 She used to be called

00:42:13.480 Posy Parker, but she's 1.00

00:42:14.520 basically like the

00:42:15.740 archetypal Victorian woman,

00:42:18.120 right? 0.93

00:42:18.720 She is the anti-trans, 0.99

00:42:21.900 pro-traditional mother 0.80

00:42:24.240 who, she went to a 0.97

00:42:25.880 women's swim meet and

00:42:27.120 started heckling the guy

00:42:28.740 who was swimming there in

00:42:30.040 the aftermath of the,

00:42:31.780 what's his name?

00:42:33.260 Something Thomas, what's

00:42:34.640 his real name?

00:42:35.400 Leah Thomas, I think his

00:42:36.440 real name was Logan or

00:42:38.320 something.

00:42:39.180 Yeah, his real name's 0.98

00:42:40.500 ridiculous. 0.97

00:42:41.020 Anyway, that dude. 0.99

00:42:42.500 So, she went down there

00:42:43.800 and started heckling that. 0.98

00:42:44.640 She's very famous for 1.00

00:42:45.760 Let Women Speak, an 1.00

00:42:47.340 organization that kicks

00:42:48.800 men out of women's 0.99

00:42:49.920 changing rooms.

00:42:51.260 But she's not the, well, 1.00

00:42:53.560 it was all fine, feminism 0.99

00:42:55.000 was just fine until men

00:42:56.380 took over our space and

00:42:57.180 actually trans is just a 0.98

00:42:58.120 form of misogyny. 0.91

00:42:58.900 She's like, no, the

00:42:59.800 feminists brought us here 1.00

00:43:00.580 and they're also to 0.98

00:43:01.200 blame, so let's get rid 0.99

00:43:02.120 of all that too.

00:43:02.920 So, she went on Piers

00:43:03.620 Morgan's show and Piers

00:43:04.780 Morgan went, oh, you're

00:43:05.800 a transphobe, aren't you? 0.93

00:43:06.660 You're transphobic.

00:43:07.520 And she was like, yeah,

00:43:08.900 sure, I am.

00:43:09.780 By your standards, yeah,

00:43:10.600 I don't care.

00:43:11.080 I don't care what that

00:43:11.700 name is.

00:43:12.460 I don't care what you

00:43:13.200 call me. 0.80

00:43:13.660 I don't want men in 1.00

00:43:14.800 women's sports teams, in

00:43:16.040 women's locker rooms, in 0.98

00:43:16.920 women's changing rooms, in

00:43:18.500 women's prisons. 1.00

00:43:19.300 I don't want men 1.00

00:43:20.100 pretending to be women.

00:43:21.000 And utterly vindicated.

00:43:21.980 And now, Piers Morgan,

00:43:23.400 having seen the

00:43:24.160 shifting political winds,

00:43:25.060 has caught up to the

00:43:25.740 Kelly J. Keene position

00:43:26.580 but never apologised to

00:43:27.560 her.

00:43:28.160 And the same thing's

00:43:28.720 happening with Fuentes.

00:43:29.960 Why did he ever think,

00:43:31.260 and I think I know why,

00:43:32.120 but why did he ever think

00:43:33.120 that pulling Nick Fuentes

00:43:33.900 on and showing him viral

00:43:35.440 clips, that Fuentes doesn't

00:43:38.560 care if it exists because

00:43:39.920 he does a two-hour show

00:43:41.480 live and for free every

00:43:42.980 single day where he makes

00:43:43.980 hyperbolic statements.

00:43:45.080 Why did he think showing

00:43:46.420 him those clips and trying

00:43:48.220 to get him to denounce

00:43:48.860 himself was a kind of

00:43:49.620 struggle session?

00:43:50.640 And it's because he lives

00:43:51.880 in the boomer truth

00:43:52.500 paradigm.

00:43:52.880 which says that

00:43:54.280 anything that isn't an

00:43:56.540 open society which treats

00:43:58.100 everyone as indistinguishable

00:43:59.360 blank slates, anything

00:44:01.160 which doesn't consolidate

00:44:02.480 the gains of the civil

00:44:03.600 rights movement and the

00:44:04.480 sexual revolution, leads 0.99

00:44:06.300 ineluctably to Adolf

00:44:08.300 Hitler, Gas Chambers and 0.95

00:44:09.320 Auschwitz.

00:44:10.320 And Nick has recognised

00:44:12.380 that morality.

00:44:13.100 He even referenced R.R.

00:44:14.420 Reno's book, Return of

00:44:15.500 the Strong Gods, he just

00:44:16.200 didn't name the title, when

00:44:17.100 he laid the blame at the

00:44:18.400 feet of Karl Popper and

00:44:19.840 the open society and Adorno

00:44:21.100 and the authoritarian

00:44:21.740 personality.

00:44:22.420 During the interview, Nick

00:44:24.400 has recognised that

00:44:25.620 hierarchy.

00:44:26.160 He's recognised that

00:44:26.920 basically Hitler, the 0.89

00:44:27.900 Holocaust, the Second World 0.96

00:44:28.720 War is a kind of gravity

00:44:29.540 well around which all

00:44:30.720 contemporary politics

00:44:31.580 revolves.

00:44:32.600 And contemporary politics

00:44:33.620 puts straight, white,

00:44:34.860 heterosexual men at the

00:44:36.120 bottom of that totem pole,

00:44:37.980 yet demands that they

00:44:39.300 finance all of these

00:44:40.500 aggrieved racial and

00:44:41.620 sexual minority groups,

00:44:43.320 that they astroturf women up 1.00

00:44:45.640 the corporate ladder and

00:44:46.860 put them into meaningless

00:44:48.040 make-work spreadsheet jobs

00:44:49.420 that deracinate the birth

00:44:50.720 rate and turn them to hate

00:44:52.140 men that they might

00:44:52.700 otherwise have lasting and

00:44:54.180 loving relationships with.

00:44:55.160 And he just goes, well,

00:44:56.140 sorry, why would I uphold

00:44:57.200 that moral order and

00:44:58.420 participate in upholding

00:44:59.820 that moral order by

00:45:00.860 recognising the slurs that

00:45:02.200 you're throwing at me,

00:45:03.780 the violation of progressive

00:45:05.120 morality like racist and

00:45:06.380 sexist?

00:45:07.620 Why would I uphold that by

00:45:08.940 acquiescing to saying those

00:45:10.860 slurs have moral legitimacy? 1.00

00:45:12.660 And so he's completely

00:45:13.980 inverted it to the extent of

00:45:15.040 where he's willing to make

00:45:15.960 Holocaust jokes and say that 0.99

00:45:17.380 Hitler was cool and by that 1.00

00:45:19.340 he then clarified on the

00:45:20.480 following show that he meant

00:45:21.860 that he doesn't abide by the

00:45:24.280 atrocities of the 20th century

00:45:25.500 and he doesn't want that kind

00:45:26.700 of government, but you have to

00:45:30.060 provoke those taboos to say,

00:45:32.580 to have the ever-present

00:45:33.620 threat of actually white 0.76

00:45:35.940 Europeans, Americans and

00:45:37.100 the like have the greatest

00:45:37.760 civilisations throughout

00:45:38.520 history, and if we decided

00:45:40.480 to throw off the yoke of

00:45:42.000 white guilt, reject the

00:45:43.940 post-war liberal consensus

00:45:45.240 morality that makes us

00:45:47.320 second-class citizens in our

00:45:48.360 own country, then yeah,

00:45:49.920 you should basically live in

00:45:51.340 fear of what we're capable

00:45:52.240 of doing even if we don't

00:45:53.500 endorse those regimes.

00:45:55.320 We should be able to just

00:45:56.540 be unapologetic champions for

00:45:58.540 our history, our heritage,

00:45:59.840 our identity, our culture and

00:46:00.900 our civilisation without

00:46:02.140 engaging in the atrocities of

00:46:03.580 the 20th century.

00:46:04.520 I think he might do better to

00:46:06.400 perhaps drop the ironic

00:46:09.340 Hitler and Stalin praise 0.94

00:46:11.380 because it clouds the message

00:46:12.460 a bit, but this is why

00:46:13.980 Piers Morgan didn't understand

00:46:15.220 why his struggle session

00:46:16.300 didn't work.

00:46:17.040 This is why Piers Morgan made

00:46:18.840 the most confusing possible

00:46:20.580 decision to have Danny

00:46:21.460 Finkelstein zoom in, and

00:46:23.680 Finkelstein, by the way,

00:46:25.700 doesn't like me either because

00:46:26.580 I went through one of his

00:46:27.320 articles at length where

00:46:28.220 Finkelstein said, and you won't 0.99

00:46:29.680 be aware of this, but I shit you 0.97

00:46:30.520 not, he writes to the Times, 0.97

00:46:31.980 in the summer he wrote,

00:46:33.440 there's no future in the

00:46:34.380 politics of victimhood.

00:46:35.980 Okay, Danny, then why did you

00:46:38.180 zoom in to berate Nick Fuentes

00:46:39.920 about how me mum and me dad

00:46:41.360 were persecuted by Hitler and

00:46:42.680 Stalin, which is of course 0.91

00:46:43.440 tragic, but that doesn't mean

00:46:44.440 that you can't have borders

00:46:45.260 anymore.

00:46:46.020 And why, Danny, does Israel 0.72

00:46:47.740 exist if not to protect the

00:46:49.820 Jews from a second Holocaust, 0.99

00:46:51.180 which current politics is

00:46:53.700 always suspicious that white 1.00

00:46:54.800 people are going to do if

00:46:56.640 they decide to take power in

00:46:57.840 their own countries and, you

00:46:59.160 know, reject multiculturalism and

00:47:01.080 minority grievances.

00:47:02.540 So why Piers Morgan thought

00:47:05.100 that that would be an

00:47:06.160 effective line of attack on

00:47:07.060 Nick Fuentes, that would get

00:47:08.360 his own viewers to denounce

00:47:09.440 him, is perplexing to

00:47:11.440 Zoomers because we stepped 1.00

00:47:12.460 outside the post-war paradigm,

00:47:13.900 but boomers don't understand 0.98

00:47:15.260 why everyone wouldn't find

00:47:16.740 him appalling because they're

00:47:17.800 still within the post-war

00:47:18.820 paradigm and have a lot

00:47:19.660 emotionally invested in

00:47:20.580 consolidating the gains of

00:47:21.600 those revolutions.

00:47:22.800 Two more quick points, if I

00:47:23.680 may.

00:47:24.560 Nobody wants to be Piers

00:47:25.620 Morgan because he's a 0.97

00:47:26.380 cuckold. 0.95

00:47:27.100 Like, quite literally,

00:47:27.820 they've all come out ever

00:47:28.700 since.

00:47:29.300 You know, his wife has an

00:47:30.340 Instagram where she keeps

00:47:31.460 posting photos of her draped

00:47:32.640 around other men and joking 0.96

00:47:34.000 about having sex with a man 0.84

00:47:35.320 that she calls Mr. Suds, 1.00

00:47:36.860 which is a black guy in a 0.83

00:47:37.680 speedo washing her car.

00:47:39.140 She famously took a six-week 0.99

00:47:40.320 sabbatical from Piers Morgan

00:47:41.420 and insinuated that she was

00:47:43.200 sleeping with other men during

00:47:44.000 that time. 0.98

00:47:44.820 And Piers Morgan is fat, 0.99

00:47:47.060 effeminate, incapable of 0.99

00:47:48.520 taking a joke, and very

00:47:50.920 emotionally overwrought.

00:47:52.280 And so he's not an

00:47:53.440 admirable man.

00:47:54.260 Instead, he sort of stood

00:47:55.280 idly by or enabled the

00:47:57.480 ideology that has encouraged

00:47:58.720 atrocities throughout our

00:47:59.660 country.

00:47:59.980 For example, you know, the

00:48:00.740 Pakistani grooming gang is 0.86

00:48:01.620 covered up by the slur of 0.98

00:48:02.800 racist.

00:48:03.960 I'm sorry, I would rather be

00:48:05.380 called a racist than be

00:48:06.560 party to mass industrial 0.97

00:48:08.580 racial child rape, Piers. 0.94

00:48:11.160 And then the other thing was, 0.99

00:48:12.340 how are you going to get

00:48:13.420 young men to abandon Nick

00:48:16.040 Fuentes if you claim to be a

00:48:17.640 Catholic but also support 0.77

00:48:18.980 female priests, sex before 1.00

00:48:21.080 marriage, and abortion? 0.99

00:48:23.440 Because he told Tucker Carlson,

00:48:24.840 he believes in a woman's right

00:48:25.860 to choose.

00:48:26.320 And it's like, okay, Piers,

00:48:28.380 Catholicism is not a proto

00:48:30.400 version of John Lennon's

00:48:31.980 Imagine.

00:48:32.580 It's not just liberalism with

00:48:34.860 smells, bells, and incense.

00:48:36.520 It's actually an entirely

00:48:37.920 comprehensive metaphysical

00:48:39.380 doctrine of the good, which is

00:48:41.140 irreconcilable with your

00:48:43.140 progressive platitudes that

00:48:45.180 you put out there.

00:48:46.020 And no, it's not being a

00:48:47.280 fanatic or an extremist or

00:48:48.960 basically Catholic Bin Laden 0.57

00:48:50.940 to be consistent to the

00:48:52.540 catechism and church

00:48:53.220 teaching. 1.00

00:48:53.560 You are just a hypocrite 1.00

00:48:55.680 who is wearing my religion 1.00

00:48:56.680 like a skin suit to morally

00:48:58.040 browbeat me into agreeing

00:48:59.280 with a regime that has

00:49:00.460 enabled atrocities and

00:49:02.120 considers me to have

00:49:04.040 inexpungible racial guilt.

00:49:05.240 And if I stand up and say

00:49:06.080 something about it, then I

00:49:07.340 should be cancelled from

00:49:07.960 polite society.

00:49:08.620 And that's why Fuentes not

00:49:10.340 just got the better of him,

00:49:11.400 but seems to be on what he

00:49:12.980 is calling a generational

00:49:14.060 run.

00:49:15.180 Yeah.

00:49:15.600 Well, it just, it really

00:49:16.980 illustrates the point that

00:49:18.480 these, these boomers and 0.80

00:49:21.560 boomer aligned, you know,

00:49:24.240 operations don't really

00:49:26.380 understand that fundamentally

00:49:27.760 what Fuentes is trying to

00:49:29.180 do is be deliberately

00:49:30.060 provocative because a lot of

00:49:32.100 people on the right, people

00:49:34.040 in our sphere, the, the

00:49:35.360 pragmatic sort of crowd, our

00:49:38.320 biggest critique of Fuentes

00:49:39.400 has always been that this

00:49:40.800 appears to be more of an

00:49:41.880 aesthetic rebellion rather

00:49:43.260 than a strategic effort to

00:49:45.720 preserve Western civilization.

00:49:47.600 It's more spectacle than

00:49:49.180 substance.

00:49:50.300 That's always been our

00:49:51.140 critique.

00:49:52.940 And those who are his 0.50

00:49:54.540 detractors that are on the

00:49:56.160 left or in the, in the

00:49:57.160 neoliberal, or even just the

00:49:58.860 older folks on, on the

00:50:00.060 right that are trying to

00:50:01.620 sort of take him down, they

00:50:04.540 buy into the framework that

00:50:06.000 he's presenting.

00:50:06.780 This is always the issue.

00:50:07.720 This is fundamentally

00:50:08.280 issue.

00:50:08.580 We'll probably talk about it

00:50:09.440 with Oron that you can

00:50:11.180 never win an argument if

00:50:12.220 you're stepping into someone

00:50:13.060 else's framework and what

00:50:14.600 Piers Morgan and all these

00:50:15.580 guys do every time they

00:50:16.640 debate Nick Fuentes is

00:50:18.540 rather than attack his

00:50:20.580 sort of strategic goals,

00:50:21.880 his, again, failures like

00:50:23.760 we've seen with Yay 24,

00:50:25.540 the Kamala, you know, the

00:50:27.520 ironic Kamala endorsement,

00:50:29.640 or that seemed to be

00:50:30.900 actually tangible because

00:50:31.700 he was trying to organize

00:50:32.340 people in Michigan to not

00:50:33.720 vote for Trump, Gavin

00:50:35.040 Newsom, you name it.

00:50:36.340 Instead of going there and

00:50:38.520 attacking there, they just

00:50:40.520 step into his framework,

00:50:41.800 into his aesthetic rebellion

00:50:43.400 and try to, like, attack him

00:50:45.600 there, and it's just never

00:50:46.860 going to work.

00:50:48.240 And then Fuentes on top of

00:50:49.360 that is pretty funny, so he's

00:50:51.480 able to really just spin

00:50:54.260 Piers any which way he

00:50:56.200 wanted him.

00:50:56.760 It was like watching a boxer

00:50:58.820 in the ring with an amateur.

00:51:00.380 I mean, it really was.

00:51:01.820 And it was quite amazing that

00:51:03.180 Piers was doing a victory lap

00:51:04.520 afterwards because, I don't

00:51:06.080 know, maybe his producer said

00:51:07.260 he nailed it.

00:51:07.920 That must be the only takeaway

00:51:09.100 because, again, it was just an

00:51:10.640 objective disaster.

00:51:12.660 So all this to say, they're

00:51:15.020 just not very good at this.

00:51:17.700 There's a reason why society

00:51:19.220 has collapsed under their

00:51:20.100 watches.

00:51:21.140 A, yes, their ideology doesn't

00:51:23.980 work and fundamentally will

00:51:25.620 cause society to break apart

00:51:28.700 at the seams.

00:51:29.640 But also, they're not very good

00:51:32.540 at what they do.

00:51:33.420 They're not prudent.

00:51:36.180 They're not good at actually

00:51:38.180 putting into place their

00:51:40.660 policies and implementing

00:51:41.920 them correctly and they're not

00:51:43.120 good at polemics. 1.00

00:51:44.460 They just suck. 0.99

00:51:46.720 It's just so abundantly obvious. 1.00

00:51:48.700 So all this is going to do is

00:51:49.840 continue to embolden Fuentes.

00:51:51.180 And that's what's so funny is

00:51:52.380 because that's sort of their

00:51:54.220 that's sort of their fear.

00:51:55.960 But all this is going to happen

00:51:57.800 is this culture war theater is

00:51:59.900 all it's going to do is have

00:52:02.080 this red pilling effect, really,

00:52:04.200 is it just, again, opens up the

00:52:06.080 gateway for disillusioned young men.

00:52:08.180 Um, and I'm not going to sit 0.93

00:52:09.880 here and, um, be gay about it 0.93

00:52:13.060 and be like, oh, this is these 0.98

00:52:14.760 these men have no right to be

00:52:15.960 disillusioned.

00:52:16.400 The system's great.

00:52:17.300 That's like typically the

00:52:18.340 counter Fuentes argument.

00:52:20.240 And I just think that's a

00:52:21.580 failure.

00:52:22.140 You need to understand why these

00:52:24.460 young men are disillusioned and

00:52:25.480 really address those same

00:52:26.680 points.

00:52:27.240 Um, just provide like some

00:52:29.340 strategy.

00:52:30.520 Um, again, I think Trump actually

00:52:32.220 does an excellent job at that

00:52:33.620 personally.

00:52:34.360 Uh, and, and obviously he's in

00:52:36.700 office, so he has the power to

00:52:38.640 enact a lot of those changes that

00:52:40.680 disillusioned young men would

00:52:41.640 like to see.

00:52:42.380 But, um, yeah, it's just a

00:52:44.820 complete disaster.

00:52:45.820 And later in the interview, Piers

00:52:47.640 Morgan, bizarrely for being a

00:52:49.700 devout Catholic who Catholics, um,

00:52:51.620 you know, and Christians broadly,

00:52:53.860 uh, you know, it's in the

00:52:55.820 scripture that abstinence should be

00:52:57.480 practiced prior to marriage.

00:52:58.820 Um, again, we should be having 0.99

00:53:00.980 sex with one woman, that woman 1.00

00:53:02.320 being our wife and, uh, Piers 0.99

00:53:05.240 Morgan, like weaponized this

00:53:06.600 again.

00:53:06.860 He's supposedly a Catholic, um,

00:53:09.220 Fuentes for what it's worth

00:53:10.780 taking the Christian, um, moral 0.53

00:53:13.760 the correct Christian moral take,

00:53:15.720 which is no, I'm not going to have

00:53:17.340 sex until marriage. 0.53

00:53:18.040 Uh, I think he went on to say

00:53:20.000 it was like, uh, he said before 0.99

00:53:21.640 it's gay, having sex is gay, 1.00

00:53:23.200 which, you know, is neither here 0.99

00:53:24.200 nor there.

00:53:24.540 But, um, I kind of wanted to tie it

00:53:26.420 in with that solely enough tweet

00:53:27.760 that I, I, I brought up at the

00:53:29.400 beginning of the show, um,

00:53:31.920 where this is actually kind of

00:53:33.900 what Fuentes is actually sort of

00:53:36.200 alluding to.

00:53:37.020 And, um, Sullyanoth put this

00:53:39.140 commentary, he tagged this onto

00:53:40.600 that clip, uh, that where Fuentes

00:53:42.720 was saying, you know, sort of his

00:53:44.680 frustration surrounding the whole

00:53:46.260 dating, uh, market as it stands.

00:53:49.660 I'll just read a little bit of it

00:53:51.160 here because it's a very long tweet.

00:53:53.020 Um, he said, quote, having sex is 0.95

00:53:55.240 the easiest thing in the world. 0.80

00:53:56.400 I can make a dating app profile

00:53:58.260 profile and lose my virginity by

00:54:00.500 dinnertime, but few people alive 0.93

00:54:02.620 have ever actually had sex.

00:54:05.100 They've performed a social ritual,

00:54:06.980 sort of like hazing.

00:54:08.060 They've slammed, they've slapped

00:54:10.120 their damp, clammy body against

00:54:12.280 another damp, clammy body, like

00:54:14.320 the wriggling of a suffocating

00:54:15.880 fish.

00:54:17.260 Um, there's a bunch of gross stuff

00:54:19.420 in here.

00:54:19.800 They've never made love.

00:54:20.880 They've never experienced passion

00:54:22.120 or tried to melt into another

00:54:23.480 human being.

00:54:24.140 Uh, to be crude for a moment, it

00:54:27.100 sounds more like more or less the

00:54:28.600 equivalent of a salary man dipping

00:54:30.180 into the bathroom and having a

00:54:31.420 30 second wank simply so that he

00:54:33.800 can more easily concentrate on

00:54:35.140 whichever set of numbers he is

00:54:36.540 currently moving from one column

00:54:38.380 of an Excel sheet to another.

00:54:39.920 It's nothing but a physical

00:54:41.760 phenomenon removed of any tell

00:54:43.360 us.

00:54:44.080 So again, this tweet received like a

00:54:46.440 ton of criticism.

00:54:47.700 Everyone is dunking on this guy,

00:54:49.080 but I think he actually is alluding

00:54:51.300 to, I don't know if this is what

00:54:53.080 Fuentes specifically was alluding

00:54:54.840 to.

00:54:55.000 I think for him, it's more of a

00:54:55.920 bit, but, um, there's some truth

00:54:58.620 that literally every single thing

00:55:00.740 for young people has completely

00:55:02.900 unraveled.

00:55:03.760 And the sexual revolution, this 0.67

00:55:05.320 would require a whole episode to

00:55:06.760 really cover, but the sexual

00:55:08.240 revolution has been a complete

00:55:10.140 disaster to the point where what

00:55:11.700 Solianoth is really alluding to 0.89

00:55:13.060 is that sex and the casual sex

00:55:15.980 fundamentally is just mutual 0.99

00:55:17.760 masturbation. 0.99

00:55:18.300 masturbation and it's completely 0.99

00:55:20.020 eliminated, uh, something that

00:55:21.880 was very, uh, something that was

00:55:24.100 very, uh, it was ordained by God.

00:55:26.800 I mean, it was ordained to

00:55:27.840 illustrate his, his love for the

00:55:29.220 church and it's been turned, it's

00:55:30.420 been commodified.

00:55:31.460 And, um, what he's expressing here

00:55:33.460 is sort of frustration with this

00:55:35.520 overemphasis from older people on

00:55:37.900 sex saying like, oh, this is, if

00:55:39.840 you're not receiving this, you're 1.00

00:55:42.080 just an incel and you're like a 1.00

00:55:43.620 loser or whatever. 0.99

00:55:44.400 And what Solianoth is saying is 0.99

00:55:45.960 like, what's even so special about

00:55:49.600 this anymore?

00:55:50.160 You, your generation, the boomer 0.74

00:55:51.960 generation who really kickstarted 0.89

00:55:54.280 the sexual revolution, eliminated

00:55:56.140 all the value around it.

00:55:57.560 So it's like, what are you even

00:55:59.200 really missing out on?

00:56:00.700 This is something that you can fire

00:56:01.920 up Tinder and have, you know,

00:56:03.780 resolved by the evening.

00:56:05.780 So again, what, what Solianoth

00:56:08.040 specifically is alluding to is

00:56:09.260 that, you know, abstinence actually

00:56:11.200 has quite a bit of value to it

00:56:12.840 because again, sex in the, in the

00:56:15.900 correct view would be something 0.84

00:56:17.160 that would be, uh, with your wife

00:56:19.260 and, and done within the confines

00:56:20.820 of love and, and all these sorts

00:56:22.060 of things, people melting into

00:56:23.240 each other was the words he used.

00:56:25.140 Um, but again, this is just another

00:56:26.600 example of something that is

00:56:27.800 fundamental to the human

00:56:28.580 experience that has been

00:56:30.060 completely flipped on its head by

00:56:32.820 this neoliberal boomer sort of

00:56:35.900 regime.

00:56:36.340 And, and so again, this is just

00:56:38.240 something that's not fair to be

00:56:40.240 using as like a club against

00:56:43.300 young people because it's like, 0.96

00:56:44.460 what, what's so great about it?

00:56:46.200 The, the system you've created,

00:56:47.440 the, the, uh, the new sort of

00:56:49.560 paradigm that you've introduced

00:56:50.820 has stripped any meaning away

00:56:52.340 from it.

00:56:52.800 It's like, like, what are we

00:56:53.860 doing here?

00:56:55.020 Yeah.

00:56:55.460 This is where the line of

00:56:56.140 attack didn't work by peers.

00:56:57.500 Uh, he also tweeted out after the

00:56:59.640 show that he's going to start

00:57:01.040 branding people who shame women

00:57:02.820 who stand up for women's rights,

00:57:04.080 women phobic. 1.00

00:57:05.400 And it's like, yeah, man, sure.

00:57:08.340 The line of attack that men just

00:57:10.300 don't respect women enough 1.00

00:57:11.680 after spending 20 to 30 years

00:57:13.020 going through feminized

00:57:13.940 institutions, being told that

00:57:15.280 they are guilty of every

00:57:16.740 historical atrocity that has

00:57:18.000 ever existed and that anytime

00:57:19.520 they want to be competitive or

00:57:21.680 competent, but this is proof of

00:57:24.180 their attempts to oppress

00:57:25.420 everyone.

00:57:26.560 Um, this is just not an

00:57:28.840 effective line of attack.

00:57:29.760 Neither is the idea that they

00:57:30.920 haven't lived in a culture

00:57:32.360 which is sufficiently sexually

00:57:33.620 oversaturated.

00:57:34.640 Like these guys have grown up

00:57:36.060 since they are 10 being preyed on

00:57:38.220 by porn companies that know

00:57:39.340 what they're doing and have been

00:57:40.740 given the license to do so by

00:57:42.840 boomer adults who believe that

00:57:44.560 we are all generated free and

00:57:46.040 equal and any limitation on

00:57:47.560 their autonomous, anonymous

00:57:48.900 right to goon is somehow

00:57:51.040 tantamount to oppression.

00:57:52.240 So we just throw these kids to

00:57:53.620 the wolves and have them

00:57:54.960 trune out like, uh, Tyler

00:57:56.820 Robinson and Lance Twiggs.

00:57:58.100 And so the idea that you were

00:57:59.640 ever going to hit Fuentes or his

00:58:01.200 audience on this when we have a

00:58:02.200 completely different framework

00:58:03.160 for sexual morality was doomed to

00:58:05.020 the start, Piers.

00:58:05.620 And it's also doomed when

00:58:06.800 people then, again, dig for your

00:58:08.240 wife's Instagram and find out 0.96

00:58:09.620 that you aren't the man of your

00:58:11.300 own house.

00:58:12.380 Like, why would we want to

00:58:14.140 respect that?

00:58:14.840 Why would we want to respect you?

00:58:16.820 And the final thing is the

00:58:18.180 incel charge.

00:58:19.680 So, look, uh, for my sins, I'm a

00:58:22.180 terrible Catholic. 0.96

00:58:22.780 I did not listen to Nick's advice 0.95

00:58:24.080 and saying no e-girls ever.

00:58:25.660 So I wasn't quite as abstinent

00:58:26.800 before, uh, my marriage.

00:58:28.700 Uh, however, there is, there is

00:58:30.040 nothing value if it is given away

00:58:31.880 basically for free.

00:58:33.760 And, uh, Solian Araf, in his post

00:58:36.280 there, alluded to the fact that

00:58:38.000 we are getting to the point now

00:58:39.600 where a certain contingent of

00:58:41.200 people, um, will just have

00:58:43.420 hookups to fulfill a desire that 0.99

00:58:45.900 has been left by the complete

00:58:47.660 breakdown in relationship norms

00:58:50.220 and the stigmatizing of

00:58:51.280 commitment.

00:58:51.920 And now we're in the territory

00:58:53.100 where people are, we were for a

00:58:55.800 time, people were having sex all 0.73

00:58:57.460 the time in a kind of brave new

00:58:58.900 world or, uh, Zamyatin's we fashion

00:59:01.040 where you could almost schedule

00:59:02.060 it in.

00:59:03.160 But they were told not, not to

00:59:04.680 catch feelings, not to get

00:59:05.660 attached.

00:59:06.480 And so in that sexual

00:59:07.640 oversaturation, in that

00:59:09.080 carousel, that revolving door

00:59:11.180 of sexual partners, which is

00:59:13.500 ultimately unfulfilling and

00:59:14.520 emotionless and kind of soul

00:59:16.080 destroying, uh, fewer people

00:59:17.920 are now having sex than 0.77

00:59:19.160 other.

00:59:19.360 You've got a rising number of

00:59:20.620 people that have never had an

00:59:21.540 intimate partner under the age

00:59:22.620 of 30.

00:59:23.120 Fewer people are getting married.

00:59:24.220 Fewer people are having

00:59:24.940 children.

00:59:25.520 And civilization is going the

00:59:26.800 way of the dodo for it.

00:59:27.760 And then that then

00:59:28.920 manufactures a consent for the

00:59:30.220 kind of demographic replacement

00:59:31.400 that Piers Morgan supports

00:59:32.700 because he wants to fill his

00:59:33.980 trough of foreign slop. 0.86

00:59:35.560 And so Piers Morgan's entire

00:59:37.260 worldview is anathema to the

00:59:40.280 organic bottom-up worldview that

00:59:42.200 zoomers have built and the 1.00

00:59:43.720 kinds of men that watch Nick

00:59:44.660 Fuentes have built.

00:59:45.660 Not because, as Piers Morgan

00:59:46.980 alleged, they just go out and

00:59:48.900 are angry the moment they see

00:59:50.180 someone else with a different

00:59:50.860 skin color.

00:59:51.480 But from their immediate

00:59:52.280 experience, their ability to

00:59:53.460 notice patterns without the

00:59:54.500 help of ChatGPT and an entire

00:59:57.020 production team feeding you

00:59:58.360 false information about per

00:59:59.560 capita, which Piers Morgan

01:00:00.420 couldn't understand, they

01:00:01.820 instead have built a worldview

01:00:02.960 from the bottom up that is

01:00:03.840 reassessing the gains of the

01:00:05.920 civil rights movement, the

01:00:06.660 sexual revolution, the 0.99

01:00:07.380 post-war order, and realizing

01:00:08.420 that it has either broken its

01:00:09.800 promises or has left them

01:00:12.200 nothing to inherit, has left

01:00:13.740 them bereft of a

01:00:14.320 civilization, and so they've got

01:00:15.540 nothing to lose by turning

01:00:16.800 over the tables of that moral

01:00:17.860 order.

01:00:18.220 And that's why Morgan lost.

01:00:19.700 Alrighty, guys.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - December 14, 2025

Piers Morgan Does NOT Understand Gen Z ｜ The Culture War's Across The Pond

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