SCOTUS Strikes DOWN Trump Tariffs, Trump Says He Has ＂Backup Plan＂
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On today's show, we discuss the Supreme Court striking down the Trump administration's tariffs on steel and aluminum, the impact on the economy, and why you should be worried about the possibility that you might vomit all over the desk.
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This is Tate Brown here holding it down on this beautiful Friday.
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I think that's going to be the wave on Fridays.
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Let me know because in the later, in the second half of the show, we are going to have a mailbag
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You guys are absolute psychopaths, but we're going to open chat.
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I think I'm going to probably, at some point in the show, vomit all over this desk because
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this is all I've had in this day, just water and this yerba madre.
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So there is a chance that I completely, my innards, I just vomit them all over the desk.
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So with that, before we get into the show, we do have some exciting stories.
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The Supreme Court of the United States has weighed in on the Trump emergency tariffs, and
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Now, a lot of people are coming completely unglued.
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They're saying the country's wrecked, et cetera, et cetera.
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It is true that these tariffs, the specific tariffs they've struck down, make up about 70%
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So it will cause some issues, that is for sure.
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But we're going to get into all the tariff action.
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And I have a few interesting stories, some more cultural stories, seeing as it is Friday,
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With that, we got all our stories we're going to get into.
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I'm going to fight the urge to vomit all over the desk.
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I think that's actually like, if you go on Cal sheet right now, probably 20% odds if I
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But this first story, probably even of more magnitude than the tariffs.
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You know, everyone is saying, wow, these tariffs are a serious blow against the Trump administration.
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We have, from the New York Post, dancers reenact the ice shooting of Rene Good and Alex
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You know, the Supreme Court, the judicial system sort of really running the show in this
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I'm not worried about these activist judges or the Supreme Court giving us unfavorable results.
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Now she's being ascended, I presume, hoisted into the heavens.
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Now they've taken the tires, so I presume this is reenacting Detroit.
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So as you can see here, you know, this is in our nation's capital, obviously, as you saw,
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this was taking place outside of the Kennedy Center. This has to strike fear into the heart
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of the Trump administration, strike fear into the heart of patriots everywhere. The performative
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dances have begun. I didn't think the left would go there. You know, they've been terrorizing
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conservatives, you know, political violence, you know, lawfare. We've seen all sorts of things,
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the Biden administration, the evil actions they conducted. But quite frankly, this is crossing
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the line, I would say. This is really a petrifying situation. They have engaged in a performative
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dance protest. And I have to say, I'm really nervous. I don't know about you guys in the
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audience. You know, again, like I said, we've withstood a lot. And I'm not afraid, you know,
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I'm really not afraid of all these threats made against us and these sorts of things. Again,
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I'm not afraid. You know, I'm willing to stand for what I believe in. I'm willing to die,
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quite frankly, for this country, for my beliefs. But this, this really is absolutely petrifying.
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Quite frankly, I was shaking like a Parkinson's victim. I'm absolutely terrified of this. And
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we really need the DOJ to act swiftly here because quite frankly, this can't go on,
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these performative dances. I mean, this is going to sway even the most loyal of Trump supporters,
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even the most loyal plan trusters, I think might see this and they might be swayed over to the left.
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Really petrifying stuff. So with that, I wanted to, I wanted to reemphasize that this is truly
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what's important. This is truly what we need to be worried about as MAGA supporters, as Trump
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supporters, or anyone just concerned of the country at large. And something not as important as the
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Supreme Court's decision today, you know, it's whatever compared to the performative protest.
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Okay. What a bunch of people in robes made a decision on what Trump can do. Okay. Big whoop.
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All that to be said, this is a quite a serious situation. So the SCOTUS ruled against
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President Trump's tariffs today. Again, is it an incorrect decision? Okay. Who knows? Neither
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here nor there. There is fairly interesting here. So this is from America First Insight. This is the
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commentary they put together. It was a 6-3 ruling. SCOTUS struck down the Trump tariffs. They struck
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down a portion of the Trump tariffs. So the Trump tariffs that he used, that he implemented using
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emergency action, that is what they struck down. Again, this makes up about 70% of the tariffs. I will
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open up the stats here real quick, just to really hone in on this. So 70% of new tariff value was
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under the IEEPA, which is again, like emergency tariffs. This is what you see, the 10% universal
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tariff, and then the country specific tariffs, like the 25 to 35% that we saw in Canada and Mexico,
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the 30% we saw in China. So there's two other sections of tariffs that were not,
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that are unaffected by this ruling, which is Section 232, which is sector-specific. So that
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would be like 50% tariffs on steel, aluminum, copper imports, 25% on auto parts. The other one,
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Section 301, which is continued China tariffs. That's about 10% of the remaining tariffs.
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That's also not affected by this SCOTUS ruling. This affects entirely the IEEPA,
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which is the emergency tariffs. So this is from America First Insight. This is a commentary they
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put. This is a great account. Actually, I need to be following. What's going on here? Embarrassing.
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I'm not following them. I am now. This marks the first major legal defeat for the Trump
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administration, but it also is certainly not the end of tariffs. I think this is absolutely correct.
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As with the Biden administration's student loan forgiveness, the policy can be re-implemented with
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slightly different legal basis and probably go through the whole song and dance again.
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SCOTUS did not touch the idea of refunds for tariffs. So if you look here, here's the 6-3
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decision. Obviously, these people are useless. Gorsuch and Barrett. I mean, Roberts, at this
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point, we know he's a liberal. He has no teeth, these sorts of things. That's not surprising. But
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again, every time you see Gorsuch and Barrett switch sides here, it's really offensive. It really
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is. And it's just like, what's the point? I mean, Kavanaugh, for what it's worth, he's received a lot
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of ire over the years. But fair enough. He has voted to keep tariffs. And if you go in, I think
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it's worth reading Kavanaugh's dissent that he wrote on this decision. And so he basically lays
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this out, what America First Insights is saying here, is they're saying this decision is not the
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end of tariffs by any stretch. And Kavanaugh actually lays out the other avenues that Trump
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can do to, again, re-implement these tariffs, but in a legal manner. Let me find it here.
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I had it. I had it in the stack. I don't know what happened to it. But that's effectively what
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Kavanaugh is doing. Kavanaugh is just laying out, you know, just re-implement these. You can
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re-implement these, you know, sign the dotted line on a few different forms, and we should be able to
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re-implement these tariffs. It is really not the end of the world. Some people are engagement
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farming on Twitter today, and they're coming out and saying the country is ruined, you know,
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et cetera, et cetera. The tariff regime is over. This is like the end of our economic policy. That
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is really just not the case. Again, Trump himself said here, this is good. Kellen put this in the
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stack. Trump are brutally law-mogged by Scott as for tariff maxing a decision that is sure to
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spike the White House's cortisol. While this is true, and it's in jest, Trump has already said here,
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he has a backup plan for tariffs. If the Supreme Court ruled his tariffs to be illegal, again,
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his entire team has anticipated that this would happen. So again, they have the wherewithal.
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This could take a few months, certainly, to re-establish these tariffs, but I am not terribly
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worried. Also, if you look in the ruling, they don't actually address, you know, people are saying,
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well, you know, Trump's going to pay back, you know, all the money that was extracted using these
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tariffs. Again, the Supreme Court didn't really touch that. The Supreme Court didn't seem to be
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terribly worried about it. You can see here, this is in the ruling. The United States Supreme Court
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has stated that refunding billions from Trump's legal tariffs collection is likely to be a mess,
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but may be required. To me, that is the kind of language that indicates that they just don't
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actually know how to even possibly handle that. Matt Forney puts great commentary here. In other words,
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Trump is just going to ignore the ruling because it's impossible to comply. This is the language
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courts use when they want to sound tough, but they know they have no enforcement power. This is the
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strategy the left uses MAGA wins. Again, this is true because again, tariff collection is likely to
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be a mess, but may be required. Okay, what is that going to look like? They don't actually outline that.
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They don't actually outline how that would be implemented, how that would work, why that would be
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needed, these sorts of things. So I really don't think this is the doomsday scenario like the people are
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saying. I don't see the sense in dooming right now. Rand Paul here, for what it's worth, he puts
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this statement out. And I think this is a weak statement. In our defense of the Republic, the
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Supreme Court struck down using emergency powers to enact taxes. This ruling will also prevent a
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future president such as AOC from using emergency powers to enact socialism. So Rand Paul, obviously,
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as everyone knows, is a libertarian. So he's never been in love with tariffs. He's not been a big fan
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of tariffs. This language right here, I really hate this. And we've gone on and on and on and on and on
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and on and on about this on Tim cast on our various shows. So you guys are quite familiar with this
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argument by now, where he says this ruling will also prevent a future president such as AOC from
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using emergency powers to enact socialism. No, it won't. No, it will not. Again, you could ask Phil
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Levante, he will go on and on and on about this as you should not make decisions. Like fearing potential
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retribution from the left because they don't really care. I mean, again, we saw with the Biden
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student loan forgiveness, no matter how many courts weighed in, he would just use other legal pathways
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to make this happen. The left, again, would not be hung up on this Supreme Court ruling. And this is
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why I think this was excellent commentary from the White Papers Policy Institute. Regardless of your
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opinion on these tariffs, this is a terrible take from Congressman Rand Paul. You should want to win
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and to govern not doing things because the other side might do it is ridiculous. The left is going
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to do it in any way, play to win or get out of the way. I think this is absolutely correct.
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Again, we're playing for keeps. We should be operating under the assumption that if Trump
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loses, or I should say, I guess if J.D. Vance loses in 2028 or whoever the nominee is going to be,
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again, a lot of things can happen. Presumably J.D. Vance, let's just say a Democrat comes into power
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in 2028. It's over anyway. In many ways, MAGA, Trump, et cetera, is our last stand. We're running out of
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time. We kind of ran out of time like 10 years ago, quite frankly. So this idea of operating out
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of fear of what the left is going to do rather than operating that we need to win now is just
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ridiculous. He puts it perfectly. You should want to win and to govern, not do things because the
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other side might do it. And I think that is absolutely correct. And that is a very salient
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point. And yeah, so if you want to get into the nitty gritty of this ruling, Tim did like an hour long
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live stream earlier today on it. And he had some different perspectives on it. He's a bit more
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fearful of the implications of this decision. Again, I would recommend going and watching that
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after the close of this show if you haven't seen it already. Because, you know, from my perspective,
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this is my analysis so far, but there's a lot that's going to shake out. Again, we have people
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combing through the decision and they will sort of uncover maybe some of the hidden mechanisms that
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could be activated here. But again, Trump has said we have a backup plan. He said this before. He said
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back in November that he anticipated potentially this happening and that he would have what he
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called a game plan B that he could implement in this situation. So I am not panicking yet. I am not
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super fearful. I don't think this is the end of tariffs by any stretch of the imagination.
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I think this is a minor setback for a major comeback. I just think that the Trump administration
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So when they finally went on tour, Martha bundled her flight and hotel on Expedia to see them live.
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She saved so much, she got a seat close enough to actually see and hear them.
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Sort of. You were made to scream from the front row. We were made to quietly save you more.
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Different forms, different avenues. Who knows? I mean, I'm not holding my breath on this,
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so I wouldn't sort of bank on this. But Congress could just get some backbone and make this happen.
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Because what the SCOTUS decision effectively was doing was saying, no, Congress is the one
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that levies taxes, not the executive in this situation. And so who knows? Maybe John Thune
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grows a backbone. Not long on that. I think the Trump administration is going to have to be
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the ones that make this happen. So again, no sense to panic. No sense. We don't need to
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churn out yet. We're going to be okay. That is my assessment. So with that, we have some more
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stories we should get into. What should we get into here? I had... This was quite interesting.
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Where was it? This was quite interesting to me. Before we get into a more serious story,
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this was from Tasteful Lindy. This was the post they had to put up. Every once in a while,
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you run into the aging millennial in New York City, now balding with a beard, clinging to the days of
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his hipster youth. Hasn't realized the era has changed like the Japanese soldier who didn't know
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the war was over. And he put up this clip. And this is really a fascinating clip.
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You guys probably remember this song. This is a really fascinating cultural moment that we had
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about 10 years ago. And what's interesting about this, again, it's Friday, so we're kind of coming
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in more with the cultural stories here, is from my perspective, from my analysis, this sort of,
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you know, hipster granola culture, whatever you want to call it. That was like the last
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explicitly like Anglo cultural movement that we had in the United States. Correct me if I'm wrong,
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but this really seems like this was like the last like distinctly unmistakably like Anglo white
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sort of cultural moment that we had in the United States was this hipster millennial thing that
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happened. And so it's kind of interesting because a lot of people are kind of coming back and dunking on
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this. They're saying, well, this is so cringe, etc, etc. And sure, it's dated. But there's something
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to be said about the fact that like these cultural movements that we have now are sort of are not
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like, here's a good example, like country music. Now country music is the culture that I think a lot
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of white Americans are rallying around. They kind of feel like this is, you know, something that's
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sturdy that can sort of preserve them, these sorts of things. But when you listen to it, there's a lot of
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other elements that are sort of blended in like the biggest country act right now is Morgan Wallen by
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far, just by streaming numbers alone. But if you listen to Morgan Wallen music, it has like the
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hip hop style high hats, there's often there's rap verses on the song. So there's a lot of like infusion
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of black culture in country music today. And so I think it's interesting that this sort of culture,
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this sort of, I guess, aesthetic, for lack of a better word, received so much vitriol, because,
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again, this kind of seemed like the last sort of explicitly like, like English, like white cultural
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movement that we had in the United States. You know, people dunk on the the burger restaurant where
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it's like a $30 burger, and the guy has like black nitrate gloves that makes it and the fries are sold
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separately and these sorts of things. But you know, you're going to kind of miss it when it's gone, I
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think, and it already is kind of gone. So that was kind of my analysis of that. Wanted that to be said,
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I wanted to defend the hipsters a little bit, I think it's kind of sad to see that it's gone. So with
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that, Kellan just put up an update here, which is quite interesting. President Trump will hold a press
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briefing on the Supreme Court tariff decision at 1245pm Eastern Time. So maybe we jump to that. At a certain
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point, we'll do mailbag for a little bit and then jump to that.
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They're late a lot. But if we get it, we'll pull it up.
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Yeah, so maybe we go to mailbag early. I don't know.
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Let's see what I have one more story here, a few more posts here that I think we can get to.
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This is again, why I don't think I don't think now is the time to panic right now in regards to the
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performance of the Trump administration. This was a really good report put together by the White
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Papers Policy Institute was by the Niskanen, I think is how you say it, the Niskanen Center.
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And they were providing their commentary on it. This is quite interesting. This is a white pill
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coming from the Trump administration. Visas granted abroad are down across the board,
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a lot fewer people are being allowed into America, a 19% drop in H1B visa issuances is the most notable
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should still be abolished. I agree. H4 visas, which is family of H1Bs are down 20%. K1 and K2 visas,
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which are family visas are down by 52% and 48%. So again, you know, there's this narrative right now that,
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you know, Trump, the mass deportations aren't happening, and that we're flooding the country
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with H1B visas, we're flooding the country with Chinese students. But if you look, visa issuances
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are down across the board. So again, I understand why people are a little frustrated. But you got to
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understand there's a difference between data and the difference between like vibes or commentary.
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And again, you see some statements from the Trump administration every once in a while,
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that's quite worrying, you know, where they will go to bat for, you know, migrant visas,
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like over the farm workers, that sort of thing, which is pretty much entirely the auspices of
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the USDA. But even like with the student visas, these sorts of things, visas are down across the
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board, you see a few pop ups every once in a while, but these are visas that are not commonly issued.
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So there's sort of some other explanations why you see spikes in these visas. But again, look at this,
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this is read across the board. This is very encouraging stuff. This is why I just don't think
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it's I don't understand this narrative that, again, Trump is like, okay, he's supporting
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legals, but he's allowing all these H1Bs to come in 19% drop, it should be 100% drop, right? I'm not
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saying this is like, you know, perfect, this is not perfectly executed. But H1Bs, everything is down,
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everything is down across the board, there are less people coming into the country, we're at net
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negative migration, that is absolutely massive. That is a policy. And I say this all the time.
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It is a policy that if you were to just advocate for it five years ago, you would be ostracized from
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the conservative movement. If you were to go on a conservative panel, and like 2019, and say we
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should have net negative migration, they would lambast you as like, you know, someone like an
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unserious person, I guess, for lack of better word, they would ridicule you. And now it is the official
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policy of the United States, entirely because of President Trump and the Trump administration. So
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again, this is why it's there's no sense in blackpilling over these sorts of things. And
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there's still so much work to do. I'll read this real quick. And then maybe we can get into our
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mailbag portion. This was interesting. This was an expose. So this this is where I still think
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there's some work to do is on the affirmative action front. Helen Andrews put together a really
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good report here. Harvard did not stop discriminating by race. This is what she wrote, it simply stopped
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doing so against Asian affirmative action continues. But now it is entirely at the expense of
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one race instead of two. So again, everyone was popping the champagne over the Harvard ruling.
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And they're saying it was the end of affirmative action. Affirmative action is dead, but that was
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premature. So I want to read here. This was a snippet from Helen Andrews piece in the compact
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magazine. Since the ruling was issued, the share of Asians and Harvard's freshman class has gone up
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from 26% of the class of 2025 to 41% of the class of 2029. But the share of whites has gone down.
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White students were 47% of freshmen in the class of 2025 and approximately
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31% of the classes of 2028 and 2029. Harvard published percentages for every race, but white
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for those years and 8% of each class reported no race, making the white share a matter of inference.
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Black and Latino shared shares have stayed roughly the same with small fluctuations. So Harvard did not
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stop discriminating by race. It simply stopped doing so against Asians. Affirmative action still continues.
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So this was interesting. I'll just go back to white papers policy and said they've been doing fantastic work.
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Um, and I'm hopefully we'll get their spokesperson on soon because, um, they're doing incredible work
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here. Harvard was so upset when they told they, when told that they could not racially discriminate,
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that they decided to be more vindictive and racially discriminant, but only against white Americans.
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The dropped admissions of whites by 60%, their own data shows in a merit system, whites would be 50% of
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freshmen. Again, that is the important number here. Their own data shows that if they had a purely,
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if they had a pure meritocracy, whites would be 50% of their freshmen right now. They're like 31%,
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I believe is what the data, what the, the, the number was from Helen Andrews. So this is really
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shocking stuff. This is why like, okay, so I agree, you know, on the, on the, on the visa front,
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things are moving in the right direction, but there's still so much work that the DOJ specifically
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needs to be doing and holding these universities accountable. You know, you could say, well, it's
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Harvard, you know, we shouldn't even be going, we should let this school die. But the reality
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is I think Elon Musk, uh, demonstrated this very well when he took over X is some institutions
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can't be replaced or displaced rather. Some institutions cannot be displaced. Okay. That
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is just the reality of the situation. It's unfortunate. You cannot build another Harvard.
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That's just the reality of the situation. I wish it wasn't the case. You know, this is not,
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I'm not happy to say that, but you cannot build another Harvard. You cannot replace Harvard. Harvard
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is Harvard. Yale is Yale. And if we are truly trying to restore the country, we should be trying
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to restore our great institutions and Harvard and Yale are great institutions. Historically speaking,
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they are the elite institutions of the United States. And again, we're not going to not have an
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elite. Every country, every society in human history has an elite class. The goal should be replacing the
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elite, right? We should be putting our elite. We should be putting our people into the elite class
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and taking out their people from the elite class. How do you do that? That's a big part of it is
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taking back institutions like Harvard. And so when you see open discrimination like this and nothing
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is, you know, Harvard literally had a SCOTUS ruling go against them and they do not react. They're still
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discriminating more viciously, quite frankly, towards white Americans. This is where you need to
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concentrate fire. This is why I said Elon Musk demonstrated this very well as I think it became
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quite obvious. You know, we tried to launch as conservatives, we tried to launch all these different
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alternatives to Twitter, but we realized Twitter is Twitter. You're not going to replace Twitter.
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They've built up the infrastructure. It is where people go. It is the public square.
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Elon bought Twitter and just took it back. He just restored that institution and it made it something
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that would be viable for conservatives. Everyone got unbanned, these sorts of things. So again,
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Elon Musk has demonstrated the only pathway forward, the only pathway to victory is restoring these
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institutions. We just can't, some institutions we can't rebuild. Maybe your local private school,
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you could, you know, you could, you could displace, but Harvard is Harvard. We're not getting rid of
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Harvard anytime soon. So I think it's a very salient point that this needs to be more concentrated fire
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on. Again, the DOJ specifically, I'm sure they are, you know, have some sort of plan together,
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but this is the type of stuff that you really need to send a message on because this is the elite.
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We're talking about the composition of the elite in the United States. We need more
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right-wing normal Americans and the elite. It is unacceptable that this is happening. So