00:05:01.040I mean, the homeless problem here is – and it's been terrible for a while.
00:05:05.780But it's crazy how they've enabled it over the last decade plus because I lived in Venice Beach for seven years.
00:05:14.680And for a lot of people, people don't understand how L.A. works as a city because we have L.A. County, which is like the biggest county in the country by population.
00:05:26.120And L.A. County is made up of a bunch of little cities, and most of those cities are technically a part of L.A. City.
00:05:33.860and then some of them like Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, uh, in the South Bay where I live, uh,
00:05:41.020we're separate for technically our own different incorporated cities. So like, I can't even vote
00:05:46.040for Spencer, even though I live in LA County and I'm fully surrounded by LA city. Like I cannot
00:05:52.140leave my city unless I leave by boat or by plane without crossing, um, LA city. Uh, and of course,
00:05:58.580all the problems, all the problems bleed over. Um, so we have a very kind of interesting form of,
00:06:04.960of government here. Um, but where I lived in Venice, which is like technically a part of LA
00:06:10.900city, um, you know, Venice beach, it's kind of a grungy thing. You see people wear these hats
00:06:17.260to say like, keep Venice weird, which is just like, keep it full of homeless people. Like,
00:06:21.760what are you, what are you trying to do here? You know? Um, and I lived there for seven years
00:06:27.040after college. And I had a post that went kind of viral about just like a number of stories. And it
00:06:32.360was like a fraction of the actual stories of things that I experienced living in Venice. But
00:06:37.200I mean, people talk about walkable cities. When I lived in Venice, I pretty much didn't even use
00:06:42.760my car and I walked everywhere. I would encounter hundreds, thousands of homeless people every day.
00:06:48.540I would talk to them because they're just sort of there. They're on your way. On my path,
00:06:54.540that would cross the same people every day.
00:09:56.860He reminds me of like the guy in your hometown group chat that's apolitical, but just sees
00:10:01.360the issues independent of the news cycle, and then just concocts his own explanation
00:10:05.500for it, concocts his own reason why this is happening.
00:10:08.120And typically, that's going to be a right wing explanation.
00:10:10.080Because again, if the news can't launder the information to you first, you're probably
00:10:13.320going to take away a more like conservative approach to these types of things.
00:10:17.080So Spencer Pratt, what's so refreshing is he's jumping in, he's hitting on these issues,
00:10:20.200but he's not using these like normie con like talking points of like, you know, they
00:10:24.620need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
00:10:26.120He's taking a very pragmatic approach, but it still ends up being fairly conservative
00:10:30.560just because that is it's almost a cliche to say but it is like common sense approaches so that's
00:10:35.020what's kind of refreshing about him he's like i want my family to live here i don't want like i
00:10:38.480have steak here this is hard to watch it's it's just like it's just normalcy right yeah um and
00:10:45.900and you're right because he's not mired in that kind of political discourse where he gets a lot
00:10:50.800of like the really corny traditional stuff but yeah honestly so you know this is the thing for
00:10:55.400those of us who are involved with like uh online right-wing politics we sometimes become too
00:11:00.760online and we get trapped up in all this really like minutia of stuff that like the average person
00:11:05.400does not know or care about right and when people try to run these very online campaigns and they
00:11:10.540get absolutely destroyed and they think because they get a couple like rumble viewers that you
00:11:16.080know that there's like real voting power here but it's you have to be able to speak to the
00:11:20.600constituency of like the voting base yeah and like some kind of niche esoteric uh internet stuff is
00:11:27.620just not what anyone cares about and so this is perfect because like he kind of i'm not like just
00:11:34.120to say not to say like i'm like spencer pratt but like before 2020 i was very apolitical and i kind
00:11:38.860of defaulted into something that was like vaguely libertarian but it was just sort of i mean there's
00:11:43.640a lot of things i didn't understand then but if you don't get all wrapped up in all the kind of
00:11:48.380craziness that happens online and kind of develop like 17 mental illnesses um you're just like hey
00:11:53.960this doesn't work this doesn't work this is really clear cut i'll have to do a step outside and for
00:11:59.100him stepping outside he has nowhere to his house is gone so there's no you know there's nothing
00:12:04.940there so there's no more real world um facing the actual ramifications of everything that we've
00:12:11.700dealt with um but but he like this is not just like kind of like a meme catchy uh cool campaign
00:12:20.100ad campaign if you listen to his interviews he has incredible recall of data information numbers
00:12:27.820how the government works so he has done his research he has assembled a team around him
00:12:32.560and not just that he's done his homework very very well clearly i went to a um a fundraiser for him
00:12:37.800last week. And I got to see him talk. And right off the cuff, people asking him questions. He
00:12:42.880knows these things. Yeah. And it's not just like he's memorized, like, oh, there are 40,000. It's
00:12:48.460like, no, he actually understands exactly the different layers at the government where this
00:12:53.100is implemented, and that is implemented. And it's very clear that this is not just sort of like a
00:12:57.980charade. And you know, what's weird is a lot of people say that like someone like Trump
00:13:02.360is just doing this for his own like self aggrandizement and for his own thing.
00:13:06.460but someone like trump cares to succeed so much that even if it's purely for his own self-interest
00:13:12.640his self-interest is i want to be the best president of all time and i want to save america
00:13:17.120and if pratt is motivated by yes like if you're someone who's in the public world of any kind you
00:13:23.000are motivated by some level of fame and notoriety and legacy and it's like this guy really seems
00:13:29.160like he actually wants to fix things yeah and i've never being from california and being in los
00:13:34.820sandras i've never in my life had a single politician at any level that i even was remotely
00:13:41.100uh excited by like you know you know that scene in uh uh seinfeld where george takes the bite of
00:13:48.600mango and he's like i think it moved like just one fraction of movement of excitement you know
00:13:54.080one just modicum of any hope and all of a sudden it's just like this is the most exciting thing
00:13:57.960that's like ever happened in my life politically as a californian yeah i mean well i mean to start
00:14:04.460you made that point where spencer pratt i think most of his political philosophy developed from
00:14:07.580just walking outside and this is what again kind of reminds me of donald trump because again when
00:14:10.920donald trump came into the political i mean obviously he'd been like you know broadly
00:14:14.880politically adjacent for a long time but it's when he really like got serious about a political
00:14:18.240career um he wasn't canning like sean hannity talking points like he didn't come to these
00:14:23.320conclusions about the country because of fox news or because of twitter it was the literally literally
00:14:28.360the fact that he lived in trump tower and when he left trump tower he looked around and saw the
00:14:33.720state of everything and he said this something's gotta give here something and so spencer pratt
00:14:37.740reminds me of that where again you can tell that he doesn't think los angeles is bad because someone
00:14:41.520told him it's bad or because sean hannity was railing on it he thinks los angeles is bad because
00:14:45.920his house burnt down and he can walk around and he has eyeballs like that's the main reason that's
00:14:50.140his main takeaway and then to your point i mean i was listening to him on rogan and you know i saw
00:14:54.860spencer pratt taking off and i was like here we go here's another situation which the conservatives
00:14:58.560find a hero and they work themselves up into a frenzy and he's ultimately like embarrass us or
00:15:02.640something. And I listened to him on Rogan. I'm like, oh, this guy's legit. Like he's actually
00:15:06.920like to your point, like just recalling facts. He has an encyclopedic understanding of how the
00:15:11.660like city government functions, like very refreshing. It's almost like oxygen. And so
00:15:17.080that's why it's really exciting. But to the point I made, I mean, you still have the tamper
00:15:21.360expectations a little bit because you almost don't want to get your heart broken here. I mean,
00:15:25.860this is my question for you on the ground. I mean, are people talking about Spencer Pratt or
00:15:29.760are people that maybe would not be typical voters or even Republican voters indicating that they
00:15:35.020might vote for him? I mean, what is the general mood atmosphere in SoCal right now? I mean,
00:15:39.840there's, there's an actual buzz, like, without a doubt. There's a Jean Parmesan made a little
00:15:47.420AI ad about like women at Pilates. And, you know, going, you know, oh, wait, like, actually,
00:15:54.000I'm voting for Pratt and I'm voting, you know, and it kind of, I mean, obviously, that's completely
00:15:57.200fake at ai ad but like i have heard some of the areas that i you know i i live near the beach so
00:16:02.780i walk along the beach and uh i go to the gym and so i kind of just hear like ambient conversations
00:16:09.020and i can i know for sure like i've seen people wear his hats and i've heard chirps right i just
00:16:17.580like i've overheard conversations where i hear people say his name right i don't know what the
00:16:21.640content of those i don't know how many people are saying but all i know is like there's something in
00:16:26.400the air for sure. And, um, you know, he has a very legitimate chance. People are like, he stands no
00:16:32.760chance. The only no chance factor is of course, how much they cheat with everything when it comes
00:16:38.540to voting. Um, but I would say that it's like damn near guaranteed that he's going to make it
00:16:45.280to the November runoff, but there's a very legitimate chance that he clears this right now
00:16:50.740by June 2nd. And I think part of that is because they're not going to have all of their stuff in
00:16:56.900place for the primary part of the election as much as they would for the November runoff.
00:17:03.780And, you know, to kind of go back to the Trump thing, because I think this is a really interesting
00:17:07.420kind of important part of where the state of politics are now. Having a, you know,
00:17:12.420when people are like, we want to go return to like a reasonable Republican thing. It's like,
00:17:17.200How did Mitt Romney do? If you try to be the reasonable guy, it just doesn't work with the dynamics of the Democrat and just general liberal left-leaning domination of our culture and the way that they have all their political systems entrenched.
00:17:33.600So in 2022, our election for mayor was between Karen Bass and Rick Caruso. Rick Caruso was a lifetime Republican who had gone independent a few years prior and ran as a Democrat.
00:17:46.360and what's crazy is if all you do is put a d next to your name or like you know that changes so much
00:17:53.080with the way that californians and angelinos think but rick crusoe was a businessman he's like a real
00:17:58.940estate billionaire um or multi multi multi hundred millionaire um but you know extremely rich right
00:18:05.100and he actually like built a lot of lot he was kind of like a west coast trump in the sense that
00:18:10.920he was a real estate developer but of course with none of the persona at all yeah and and he ran he
00:18:17.480ran a fully practical campaign he self-funded his campaign i think with like 120 million dollars i
00:18:24.200believe and he got like 46 of the vote he was he was winning going into the night of election night
00:18:32.620when all of a sudden there's massive ballot dumps and all that so i mean i think that he actually
00:18:37.320won last time but if you understand that the game means not just winning the election but out out
00:18:43.420kicking the um uh uh taking into account the the cheat zone right you have to too big to ring type
00:18:51.640it yeah um so like i i don't remember seeing anything about him and it's not that you need
00:18:59.780to run a super online campaign but what he didn't understand is he put all that money into um just
00:19:06.420generally campaigning when on a local election like this it's all about ballot harvesting
00:19:11.240can you get those ballots in yeah so all this buzz is amazing and unless that translates to
00:19:17.680people on the ground being able to go and get ballots because this is what the the democrats
00:19:22.200do so well is the reason why they have all of these patronage networks and these especially
00:19:27.900with things like the homeless is they can show up to homeless encampments and get tons of ballots
00:19:33.540from people and then and and it's so easy like hey uh you know they have all these um
00:19:40.740all these ways are done unofficially they're not done through the campaign and so them giving you
00:19:45.860money or them giving you food or god knows what they're giving these people it's really easy for
00:19:50.100them to go into these areas where people just don't vote and just accumulate votes that are
00:19:55.300legitimate votes but they're like not real votes and so that is like the ground game in that sense
00:20:01.060is really what this is going to come down to um i know people are really really motivated and this0.97
00:20:05.460is one of the things that like women are so good at this because women are very uh social and um0.90
00:20:11.460kind of work in these little these little kind of hubs of people where they know all the neighborhood1.00
00:20:18.100people they know their neighbors names and they they walk their neighborhoods and they kind of
00:20:22.660knock on the doors and they're you know a nice woman and they're very unassuming you know like
00:20:26.340if a bunch of like big dudes just like knock on the door like hey vote for pratt you know it
00:20:31.680kind of doesn't hit as well but um there's there's that's kind of really going to be what
00:20:36.620it's going to come down to but you need someone like a trump like a pratt who understands the
00:20:42.640the practical game of all this but can put can can kind of angle things where he's just cutting0.75
00:20:47.840through all the political jargon bullshit right like if you watch the debate he just destroyed
00:20:52.940them because they're one he has the advantage because they're both incumbents right she's the0.97
00:20:57.720mayor uh ramen is a council member who's like her whole thing is focused on homelessness in la which0.99
00:21:03.680is like perfect um and he's just like you guys suck you guys have screwed up you guys have been0.98
00:21:09.200in office for like 10 combined years the whole city burned down there's homeless people everywhere0.99
00:21:13.080there's crime everywhere and back to what you were saying about you know just kind of walks
00:21:18.140his neighborhood we remember what it was like when it was when we were younger yeah it wasn't
00:21:22.840this bad it was much cleaner there were still areas that were really bad like i went to usc
00:21:27.780and uh my gym was uh next to skid row so like you know this was like 15 years ago and it was still
00:21:35.440still skid row was bad um but but the thing is this is bleeding all over the city they're like
00:21:42.540the areas that were the worst were probably always like skid row and then of course you have like
00:21:47.020south la which was always just like the hood and then places like venice beach this bleeds into
00:21:52.460everything where like santa monica's bad there are drive-by shootings in beverly hills now
00:21:57.060you know what i mean right so when people say uh i've seen people say you don't actually live in
00:22:02.260los angeles you live in santa monica it's like dude what do you think there's a border wall
00:22:06.380right there yeah you think all this field like where i live i live in like a really quiet little
00:22:12.700beach town manhattan beach there was a uh jewelry store robbery a few years ago where a big group of
00:22:18.680teens you know pull their car up and they all run into the store at one time so now there's an armed
00:22:22.800guard outside the jewelry store we never had that one time not a single time we never had any home
00:22:28.840we had one homeless person in my entire hometown my entire life and everyone knew who he was he was
00:22:35.180like the son of some like you know local wealthy guy who just kind of got screwed up on drugs
00:22:39.820and he just walked up and down the strand by the beach and like didn't really bother anybody he
00:22:45.180just had this big hair and big beard and a big belly and he just kind of walked up and down all
00:22:48.840day yeah and you know it's just sort of like okay that was like our one guy and he was kind of like
00:22:53.780a i mean it'd be preferable if he wasn't homeless but he was kind of like everyone understood sort
00:22:58.380of he's totally fine they're they're just random i see homeless people like sleeping in the in the
00:23:03.360park when i go for a walk there's a little trail here they're like sleeping in a bench underneath
00:23:07.360the tree they're they're dragging their um shopping carts along the along the beach along
00:23:12.640the strand that was just never a thing there and you go you don't live in la it's like dude
00:23:16.800it's all bleeding over we're still in la county it's all the same thing and again just back like
00:23:21.840it didn't used to be like this it doesn't have to be like this yeah if you enforce it so this is
00:23:26.880like what spencer's doing so perfectly because peep some people even on our side they want him
00:23:31.680to like lean more right wing right they want him to like oh dude say the base talking point or be0.97
00:23:37.440more aggressive on this like this is los angeles and you know republicans are like a disease like0.68
00:23:44.160uh what's the like leprosy right they're lepers right no one wants to touch republicans yeah um0.66
00:23:49.600and he's just like i'm going to enforce the laws that are already on the books if you just enforce
00:23:54.960the laws yeah none of this is like it's not legal to sleep on the street but what they do is they
00:24:00.880They just refuse to do their sweeps like just what mom Donnie did.
00:24:04.680I was actually in New York that weekend when they had that really bad storm in January and like 13 homeless people died because he said we were not going to sweep the homeless people off the street.
00:24:24.240So we have we have you know everyone understands that it comes down to district attorneys which is of course what Soros understands really well.
00:24:30.880So whenever like Elon does a tweet, like, wow, it's like, dude, Elon, you had a trillion
00:24:55.280Do you realize like people understand how cheap politics are?
00:24:59.240And by that, I mean, like, for people who are really rich, your return on investment when you get the politics that you want, if that billionaire tax passes, that is so much more expensive than if you just given millions of dollars to these various campaigns.
00:25:24.080And that's like – that's the thing that – what I think we're going to find is like the future of the GOP or whatever the right is now is a lot of people who found themselves on the – and I don't like this thing that we should be taking all the leftover liberals, but people who were never truly liberal, they just found – because of their personality types, they might have been more artistically – because the Democrats are totally people-focused, right?
00:25:50.600and and republicans are all like like process and like outcome focus right so uh uh right wing
00:25:57.500rich people don't donate money they want an investment right they don't understand that like
00:26:03.000there's this whole game that's being played with all these people so the left understands people
00:26:06.900and the right understands these kind of processes if you take people who don't politically actually
00:26:11.860they don't actually believe in the stuff on the left they're just people driven people
00:26:16.100that's how they're focused like a trump who is you know a builder a businessman but he's he's a
00:26:22.600media mogul right he's on tv he did miss universe he did apprentice he understands people and
00:26:28.140spencer pratt is someone who's like my whole family's democrat again people also don't
00:26:31.940understand like california los angeles our democrats and republicans are not like other
00:26:36.860cities democrats and republicans for the most part i mean i was like a karen bass is a literal
00:26:41.540communist right like she trained you know ramen is little communist like for especially like you
00:26:47.320know the majority of the white population and even like the more uh entrenched like older uh0.97
00:26:52.920hispanic population that didn't come here in the last like 30 years illegally uh to be a liberal
00:26:58.960in california still is very aesthetically like right-wing yeah like all of my liberal like you
00:27:05.820know like spencer pratt says like all of my friends i grew up with for the most part have always been
00:27:09.720liberal and i was like kind of one of the odd ones out just kind of you know in in 2000 in my
00:27:15.440mock election i voted for george bush you know like in the fourth grade um but uh they're all
00:27:22.020but like they're all just like normal white people who have like don't have weird hair colors and
00:27:27.680aren't covered in tattoos and have like normal jobs and families and they just go the republicans
00:27:32.420are the bad guys though like they just there's no there's no interest beyond that so you get a lot
00:27:38.220of people who are just like oh wait like i actually kind of have this disposition that um finds me on
00:27:44.240the left because i'm people focused but uh i got mugged you know like a reality punched me in the
00:27:49.900face and i actually don't believe in these politics at all yeah i was just kind of saying it because
00:27:53.660i felt left out it's the drew pavlu political consciousness yeah right mugged right into right
00:28:00.340wing extremism yeah literally well i mean we're we're are running a little bit out of time so
00:28:04.580before i let you go i do want to go bigger picture here i mean because you pointed out you know what
00:28:08.040happens in LA. I mean, that directly affects like Orange County, Riverside, etc. But even the whole
00:28:12.420state, obviously, the gubernatorial election seems like it's in play as well. I mean, we had for a
00:28:17.340while two Republicans topping the jungle primary now swabble drops out and looks like, you know,
00:28:21.700that those voters are getting absorbed into other Democrats. But what is your take on this
00:28:26.060gubernatorial? Just real quick, what is your take on this gubernatorial race? Do you think Steve
00:28:28.920Hilton has a chance? I think I think he has a very real chance. You know, and this is the kind of
00:28:34.600thing with strategic politics is like is is bianco hilton has the advantage over bianco is bianco
00:28:40.220going to siphon some of hilton's votes right um it'd be it you know so there's a very real
00:28:45.040possibility that we have two republicans in the uh in the runoff and newsom's already saying i'm
00:28:50.460gonna pull out stops to prevent that right so just understand how rigged the game is but like that
00:28:55.260doesn't mean that it's hopeless we have a very very real chance of winning both uh la mayor and
00:29:01.840um and california governor like it's very very real i think hilton stands the best chance this
00:29:07.640guy tom tom steyer is billionaire dude like he's the one who kind of came in and is swooping up
00:29:12.480all the votes i think it's very very realistic that it's hilton steyer uh runoff and again like
00:29:18.360it always just comes down to ground game it comes down to the polls because they're the ones who
00:29:25.000count the votes they're the ones who handle all this stuff and until people who are republicans
00:29:30.600are right-leaning can get involved in those levels we're always going to be playing this like
00:29:35.140too big to rig type game but i like people need to know that this is not hopeless it's very very
00:29:41.300real all it takes is like one election to shift things you get the people in power and that's one
00:29:47.000of the things that pratt's talking about is like because la is the biggest city uh your second
00:29:51.600second biggest biggest city in the whole country so obviously the biggest city in california
00:29:55.000if he can wrangle the voting, the voting corruption in LA, he can actually change the
00:30:01.160course of total California politics. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and then beyond that,
00:30:05.800I mean, even with early voting, we're seeing some, some promising indicators that the Republicans
00:30:09.180actually have a shot statewide. Oh, the turnout is way in our advantage right now. Absolutely.
00:30:13.700Yeah, it's huge. So we are at a time, I mean, like just Spencer Pratt alone, I think we could hit on
00:30:17.560for hours, but there's, there's so much there. I don't know what to bring you back on soon as the
00:30:21.320race kind of comes out of the wire so josh thank you very much for joining me today where can
00:30:25.440people find you for more uh at josh rainer gold so rainer spelled r-a-i-n-e-r twitter uh instagram
00:30:33.520youtube mostly talk health fitness with health and fitness with some you know political shit
00:30:38.380posting and fun memes and all that kind of stuff awesome well it's a privilege to have you on man
00:30:42.020you're one of the best i appreciate it we'll catch you next time yeah thank you so much tate yep see
00:30:46.480Yep. All right. Well, that was great. Josh Reiner was great. It's great to finally get him on because he's he's I would say a leading expert on California ground game as far as like what's happening, you know, on the ground talking Angelenos.
00:30:57.920What are people seeing? What are people feeling? I second it. I do think Spencer Pratt has a chance.
00:31:03.460I really do. I really I know everyone's like trying to tamper expectations and don't get their heart broken.
00:31:07.320But it's like, dude, I mean, I'm not saying that there's going to be a great awakening among Californians.
00:31:12.280I'm just saying that depressed Democrat turnout, high Republican turnout.
00:31:15.720There's still a lot of Republicans in California.
00:31:18.740And then, yeah, to this point, I mean, a lot of these people that are just culturally liberal, a lot of magic can happen, folks.