The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Culture War #14 - Trent Talbot, Josie TRHL, Fighting Woke indoctrination in Schools

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00:00:58.140 One of the biggest elements of the culture war, one of the biggest concerns is our children.

00:01:07.420 And I often talk about how these leftists, they're very much in favor of policies that either

00:01:13.840 cause irreparable harm to themselves and their kids, or they outright just don't want to have

00:01:18.060 them either through abortion or sterilization. But when you look at the propping up of celebrities

00:01:22.440 like Lizzo, who has very serious health problems, it seems like the things they do are not conducive

00:01:32.720 to long-term survival. I'll try to be very nice about this. And so the response I get from people

00:01:37.920 is, yeah, that may be, but they're coming to indoctrinate your kids so they can turn well-adjusted

00:01:43.780 children into socialists or maladjusted individuals. And that's why we're hanging out with Dr. Trent

00:01:50.360 Talbot of Brave Books, because you are combating this. We also have Josie, the red-headed libertarian,

00:01:54.960 who actually has kids and has dealt with this stuff. So do you want to introduce yourself?

00:01:59.340 Yeah. Trent Talbot, founder, CEO of Brave Books. And yeah, super excited to be here and talk to you, Tim.

00:02:04.920 Yeah, what do you do?

00:02:06.840 Well, I started Brave Books, and what we do is we create Christian conservative children's books.

00:02:14.440 They're picture books, and we take on ideas that are out there so that we're a tool for parents to

00:02:22.200 help equip their children with truth so that whenever they're faced with these ideas that are out there,

00:02:27.420 they've already had these conversations with their parents. And we help parents reinforce the values

00:02:32.980 that they hold dear. And then I think there's one book that a lot of people probably know. It's,

00:02:37.300 what is it, Elephants Are Not Birds? Yeah, it's Ashley St. Clair. That was our first book.

00:02:40.900 Yeah. And yeah, Elephants Are Not, but that was our first book. That's part of the reason why I got

00:02:46.580 into this in the first place is that whole issue. And yeah, it struck a chord, and that sort of

00:02:53.360 launched us. And now we've done 23 books. Kirk Cameron's coming out, came out with his second book

00:02:58.780 with us yesterday called Pride Comes Before the Fall. So that's getting a lot of attention.

00:03:05.700 For kids? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, pride's a topic that kids need to know about. It's an issue.

00:03:13.540 Do you mean, so that is interesting. I want to get into that. But let's also introduce Josie.

00:03:18.020 Josie, who are you?

00:03:18.820 Hi, I'm Josie. I am the redheaded libertarian on Twitter. I'm a wife, I'm a mother,

00:03:22.760 I'm a blue state refugee, and I do outside media work at TimCast.com.

00:03:27.900 Right on. So let's jump right in. I think that's interesting that you said

00:03:31.740 pride is something kids need to learn about, because I think the argument with Target right

00:03:35.060 now is it's something they shouldn't be learning about. Having to explain, perhaps in the sense,

00:03:40.620 the way you're describing it is, perhaps in the sense that there is an ideological movement,

00:03:44.500 and that they're going to start coming across people who are espousing these things,

00:03:47.640 as opposed to what the left view is, in that you should be teaching children about overt

00:03:53.260 sexual proclivities.

00:03:55.260 So Kirk's book is not about the LGBTQ stuff. It's just about pride and humility.

00:04:01.720 Oh, okay, okay, okay. Not...

00:04:02.960 Right.

00:04:03.320 I thought you meant like pride in the...

00:04:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:05.620 Like it's pride month or whatever.

00:04:06.620 Right, yeah.

00:04:07.140 Oh, okay, yeah, no, I agree. I think, you know, with Target, there's a lot of people saying,

00:04:12.340 like, Target's always done this. And I'm like, yeah, well, I think parents are finally

00:04:15.860 getting fed up with it. And I think the issue is, it's one thing to have a parade. It's one thing

00:04:21.780 to have, you know, in this neighborhood, you're doing something. The problem has always been,

00:04:27.420 many of these people are stepping over the line in that, like the pride parades, you have a lot

00:04:31.800 of nudity. You have a lot of gratuitous adult activity happening on the streets, things that

00:04:36.740 should not, that aren't legal, to be completely honest. I don't even know how. And that's been that

00:04:40.980 way my whole life. But when it comes to the Target issue, I think it's, parents are

00:04:45.840 walking into Target. And then they're seeing, their kids are with them. And then I can't

00:04:51.640 imagine what it must be like, and you guys can tell me, having your seven-year-old say,

00:04:57.240 you know, what is, what is, what is, you know, homosexual mean? Or what is LGBT referred to?

00:05:06.260 And then now you're tasked with, I haven't even talked to my kid about normal reproduction.

00:05:11.820 How are we jumping into kink and these other things, right?

00:05:15.220 Right. Yeah, it's confusing for them. I mean, my oldest is about to turn three. So I haven't had,

00:05:21.620 I haven't, you know, been faced with that yet personally. I know you have, Josie.

00:05:26.300 But I could only imagine it's got to be super confusing for kids. I mean, it's kind of confusing

00:05:30.080 for me. So, so yeah, they, they've just gone way too far. And I'm happy that the Christian

00:05:37.460 conservative movements are flexing their muscle a little bit, you know, because the general principle

00:05:43.280 in life is that you, what you get in life is what you allow. And Christian conservatives have just

00:05:50.060 allowed, allowed this. They've allowed the corporations to slap them across the face time

00:05:55.320 and time again. And so it's, it's nice to see that, you know, this giant, this giant of the

00:06:01.000 silent majority is starting to wake up a little bit.

00:06:04.340 It is interesting to me that we had a, we had a caller on Timcast IRL last night for the members

00:06:09.220 show saying that, uh, asking, do we think that allowing gay marriage opens the door to what

00:06:18.400 we're seeing now? And my response is the very traditional liberal response of if two adults

00:06:25.840 are going to go do something private in their own home, if they want to be there for each other in

00:06:29.960 the hospital, like that's, that's, I, I don't care about that. I think they should be allowed to be

00:06:34.240 with the people they love and care about the idea that because one thing happens, we now are faced

00:06:39.940 with groomers and things like that. I disagree with, I think the issue is it's one thing to say,

00:06:48.860 look, those two, those two people can do what they want. It's another thing to be like, we sat by and

00:06:53.880 did nothing as people started trying to enter schools to groom children. The fact that there is

00:07:00.380 this major backlash, I think shows people are, are not accepting of everything. And the, and I, I,

00:07:07.860 I understand there's, there's obviously a correlation, right? The pride flags, everyone,

00:07:11.600 stuff like that. But I think the fact that you're even seeing traditional liberals be like, Hey man,

00:07:14.740 get that stuff away from kids. It shows that there's a red line for everybody that we may

00:07:19.400 tolerate, or we may say, okay, you know, fine. Like we want to make sure everybody can be with people

00:07:23.320 they love, but not when it comes to you indoctrinating kids and doing all that stuff. So I think the red

00:07:28.680 line's there. I think people are pushing back. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's whenever it gets into

00:07:33.740 the public square where kids are, kids are hanging out and kids are seeing that's whenever, that's

00:07:39.120 whenever I think that we have to draw the red line. And I think churches have let us down. I think

00:07:43.760 governments let us down and just letting it just be absolute chaos in the public square.

00:07:48.640 I mean, to say governments let us down is, you know, like what else is new, but, but, but I also

00:07:55.640 think it's, it's institutional capture. The people who want to implement these policies

00:08:00.180 will start taking roles in government, knowing they will get the power over you and they will

00:08:04.440 start implementing these cultural changes. Now you have in schools, kids being shown, I

00:08:10.360 think, what was that? What was the, the book? I can't remember what state it was. The teacher

00:08:13.800 brought in the book that it's called this book is gay. Yes. And it has, I mean, overt adult

00:08:20.980 activity descriptions. It even, it, it even explained to children how to use adult anonymous

00:08:27.980 gay sex apps and they're giving it to middle schoolers. They're kids who are like 10 or

00:08:32.420 11 years old. And it's like, okay, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That,

00:08:35.500 that woman should go to jail. Like, not, not, like, I'm not even kidding. Like that, that's

00:08:39.520 a criminal charge to go to a child and be like, here's how you can go on these anonymous

00:08:42.400 apps and engage. Like, what are you doing? You can't do that. This is what's happening

00:08:46.440 when they start infiltrating these spaces. And I think you see two kinds of people

00:08:50.660 the overt, the people who infiltrate and then want these things in the schools,

00:08:55.060 probably pedophiles. And then you have the ideologically captured people who don't know,

00:08:59.540 don't care. And just like, I'm going to do whatever the mob does. I'm going to do whatever

00:09:02.220 the crowd does. Right. Right. They're, they're just scared of speaking up and, and for whatever

00:09:07.660 they go along with it. Like, I don't think this teacher, well, it's hard to say on one hand,

00:09:14.340 I'm like, how come's razor would suggest a teacher who provides that information to these kids

00:09:18.900 is a pedophile. Yeah. In the absence of evidence, the solution that makes the least amount of

00:09:22.880 assumptions tends to be correct. But if we start to make more assumptions, if we get a little bit

00:09:27.380 more conspiratorial or maybe that's not the right word, it's this regular old teacher is

00:09:32.360 ideologically captured by algorithms and press so that she's putting these books in front of kids

00:09:37.920 just because it's popular. And I'm like, yeah, there's a strong possibility, but I look at like

00:09:43.380 60, 30, I think, or 60, 40. This, the simple answer is anybody who tries to teach a child how

00:09:49.160 to use anonymous adult gay sex apps is probably just a pedophile. Yeah. The thing that they do,

00:09:54.760 they conflate it with burning books if you don't let it happen. So porn's always been banned in school,

00:10:01.400 always been banned in schools. This is not a, this is not a new thing, but they'll tell you,

00:10:05.560 no, if Republicans are book burners, if they don't let the kids read, you're keeping kids from

00:10:11.840 reading. And then when they say this, they put up books like To Kill a Mockingbird. You know,

00:10:15.860 they're not putting up genderqueer, which, you know, shows incest and two boys doing adult acts

00:10:22.260 on each other. You know, they're not saying it's these books that are horrific. They're saying it's

00:10:26.120 these books about black people, you know, so things so that the average listener is going to be like,

00:10:32.420 well, well, that, that's, that's bad. Like when we've got genderqueer here, Ian bought it.

00:10:38.520 And I think conservatives need to read it. They never do. And I've asked a ton of conservatives,

00:10:42.460 like, have you read this book? And they're like, no, but I've seen the pictures. I'm like,

00:10:44.980 you have to read this book. I feel like if I read that book here, this channel would get.

00:10:48.620 Oh no, hands down. Absolutely. But you want to give it to middle schoolers?

00:10:51.920 If, if we were to, to read and show the pictures, if we did like a, we're going to read genderqueer,

00:10:56.360 we get, we get a strike. No question. It's got overt sex acts in it. And, but the book itself is

00:11:02.660 about horrifying child abuse. And this person does not know they were severely abused. And so as

00:11:11.120 someone who grew up in an extremely psychologically and emotionally abusive household, they think that's

00:11:16.960 normal. And to them, because it's baseline, anyone who says there should be structure and,

00:11:22.600 and there should be order is clearly a fascist. When, you know, when you come from a world of

00:11:30.040 total chaos, any amount of order is fascism. Yeah. For the average person who understands

00:11:35.480 there's a balance between order and chaos, authority and liberty, and we're trying to find

00:11:38.880 the right balance, typically leaning towards liberty. We know what fascism is when people like

00:11:44.320 this are taking control and abusing people. And, but yeah, in the, in the book, the woman who claims

00:11:50.000 to be non-binary explains how she couldn't read till she was 12, she would def, uh, she would

00:11:55.480 relieve herself outside. She would use, uh, day, she would, she would use pads, menstrual pads that

00:12:04.360 were so old, they were crusted with blood, which made her smell so awful that she had to be called

00:12:10.180 into the counselor's office. The other kids would make fun of her over her. Yeah.

00:12:16.680 Her social awkwardness and, and inability to, uh, to communicate properly and her stench.

00:12:23.280 And so what ends up happening is this, this young woman conflates all of that social trauma with

00:12:28.180 being a woman saying, but boys don't have to do these things. Therefore, being a boy is better.

00:12:33.380 And then in the book, she says she is sexually aroused at the thought of being a man.

00:12:38.580 So when she has, so she's, that's what she says. The inference from that is she says she's a teacher.

00:12:46.040 If someone comes and said, if a woman says that she is sexually aroused at the thought of being

00:12:49.580 a man, that's literally, she does literally say that in the book and then explains how she wants

00:12:55.420 children to call her a man. I'm like, okay, is this, I think this person's a pedophile.

00:12:59.880 Yes. That's, that's pedophilia. And, um, if she would, she was sexually abused at a young age from

00:13:05.360 my understanding with the book. Well, I don't think the book doesn't say that she was sexually

00:13:10.060 abused. Okay. She was emotionally. I, I, I think it's abusive to have your child urinate in the yard

00:13:17.300 outside. Okay. I think it's abusive to have your kid not be able to read at 12 and she had to teach

00:13:22.020 herself how to read because she wanted to read Harry Potter so bad. I mean, it's a horrible story.

00:13:25.260 That's, that's so sad. I think it's abusive, extremely physically abusive to send a girl

00:13:31.140 going through puberty, experiencing menstruation with dirty old pads, crusted in blood. That is

00:13:37.200 when you get child protective services to come in and say, something's wrong here.

00:13:42.760 So what happens with a lot of people who are pedophiles is they were assaulted when they were

00:13:47.080 children, which is why I was, I assume that that was part of it. Um, I've only read parts of this book,

00:13:53.900 but the, she may have felt safe around children as a child because all the adults in her life were

00:14:02.280 terrifying, you know? So now as an adult, she still feels safe around children, but that leads to

00:14:07.480 sexual proclivities too, such as pedophilia. Well, you know, not an excuse, not defending it by any

00:14:13.160 means, just explaining it. She says that she is an auto androphile. Okay. She is sexually aroused

00:14:18.540 at the thought of her as a man. Yeah. And then she has children call her male things. I'm like,

00:14:24.980 she is intentionally trying to use these children for her sexual kink. So this is the author saying

00:14:29.940 these things? Yeah. It's her memoir. And they put that book in great, in middle schools. And so I

00:14:35.620 bring this up not to, I, cause you want to, when I get into this stuff, I'm like, I can't believe this

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00:16:08.920 They have it in front of kids. I have a friend who is who is gay. And when I'm talking to her about it,

00:16:15.260 I'm like, look, like, you know me, like, I don't care about you and the people you love and you care

00:16:19.640 about. You're one of my best friends. I want you to be happy. But you got to see this book. I mean,

00:16:24.320 they're showing children these overt adult acts. And she said, no way. And I was like, let me show you

00:16:31.360 the books. I have it. I show her the book. And she goes, yeah, but there's no way that's in grade

00:16:35.460 schools. And I'm like, let me pull up the story and show you that Ron DeSantis specifically was

00:16:39.900 like, this should not. And when he tried to get to get it banned, they say he's he's banning books.

00:16:44.280 Right. You know, what's ironic about the banning books thing or burning books thing is what the

00:16:49.700 left is doing. They're taking Roald Dahl and they're editing his books. You know, that is closer to

00:16:55.300 book burning than saying, no, you children can't read this book. Everybody else can. Children can.

00:17:01.360 You know, it's putting a limit on this. Like, like, but going into a store and buying pornography,

00:17:06.320 you have to be 18. Like, that's not book burning. You know, are your books in schools?

00:17:12.620 We are in a very small amount of schools. You know, Scholastic is the big behemoth when it comes

00:17:18.760 to kids books. So they're the world's largest children's book publisher, but by far the largest

00:17:24.000 children's book distributor. So they they get all kids books into schools, libraries, Barnes & Noble,

00:17:29.960 bookstores, everything. And so, yeah, if you're really looking at sort of who to point fingers

00:17:36.600 to, I mean, there's probably people that I'm not aware of groups that are making sure these

00:17:41.520 get in curriculums and things like that. But Scholastic is definitely captured. Yeah. Yeah,

00:17:47.020 for sure. Wow. If you look at their like who owns the bulk of Scholastic, you see the same

00:17:53.000 people, BlackRock, Vanguard. It's so crazy. They're trying to capture the world with CEI,

00:18:00.480 DEI and ESG. I think it's I think it it look, I don't want to be conspiratorial. So I often put it

00:18:09.760 simply as intent doesn't matter. Actions and results matter. The implication is the actions

00:18:16.280 speaking louder than words and the results are these people are Malthusian. They want less people.

00:18:20.300 They there's too many human beings on this planet. Now, look, man, I'm not going to disagree that

00:18:24.360 we've got pollution problems, that people who live in cities live like slobs. I'm sorry, man. You

00:18:29.860 know, I'm not trying to be mean to the average person, but living out in a rural area, you drive

00:18:35.380 around and what do you see? I mean, people compost, people have gardens, people have animals. They

00:18:40.340 produce a little bit of their own food. It's way more sustainable. You see solar panels everywhere

00:18:45.360 because they got good sunlight. You'll go to cities. It's the opposite. Hyper concentration of filth,

00:18:49.420 pollution, garbage. So, look, I get it. But you end up with these massive multinational

00:18:56.240 corporations that are actually plaguing society with with ills and detriment. That's not going

00:19:03.040 to improve things. Improving the system, if you're upset about it, is through what what you're doing

00:19:09.300 with these books for kids. It's teaching kids good moral behaviors. Instead, it feels like they're

00:19:15.140 powerful elites who are just like, let's just get rid of them. Let's, you know, we're not going to

00:19:20.460 cull, but we will sterilize, abort, and promote morbid obesity and other ails and things like that.

00:19:31.000 Yeah, it definitely, I see where you're coming from. But if there are going to be people,

00:19:38.400 we want them sexualized from an early age. We want them confused. We want them.

00:19:43.180 They're saying that.

00:19:44.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, not brave books.

00:19:47.440 That's a weird thing for you to promote.

00:19:49.460 No, but I was thinking about this too. And I'm like, intent is irrelevant, right? You come out

00:19:54.820 and say there's a large group of multi of power. It was really funny. I said that the world is

00:19:59.400 controlled by powerful elites. And then media matters called me a conspiracy theorist. And I was just like,

00:20:03.920 if you go to Greta Thunberg and ask her if the world is controlled by powerful executives who

00:20:08.600 have bad intentions and want to destroy the planet, she will say yes. Yeah. Yeah. The oil companies,

00:20:13.140 the big financial firms. I'm like, that's literally my point. But we don't even need to say that.

00:20:19.620 You've got all of these policies that just end with one result, less human beings. And I was

00:20:25.740 thinking about, okay, sterilizing kids is very obvious. You take a kid, put them on puberty blockers,

00:20:32.360 the likelihood that they're able to have children drops substantially. Some may be able to get a

00:20:37.680 puberty blockers and resume normal puberty, but it's not absolute. There's going to be a large

00:20:41.960 amount of people. I was reading this website. We read it on IRL. It says, warning about this,

00:20:47.380 you may never develop the ability to have sexual reproduction. Yeah. Mayo Clinic says that.

00:20:52.740 So you'll end up with people who can't have kids. You end up with people being sterilized,

00:20:57.160 women getting mastectomies or young girls, young teenage girls getting mastectomies.

00:21:00.680 And the end result is these people can't have kids. Then you're promoting abortion.

00:21:06.400 And then I thought about like, but what about the weird grooming stuff?

00:21:09.880 I think what does that result in?

00:21:13.760 Whether it's intentional or not, if you have people who grow up with a normal,

00:21:18.420 healthy education and responsible parents, they're likely going to get married, have kids.

00:21:24.360 That is like the default human behavior. But what if you start abusing them and twisting

00:21:28.940 their minds? They'll grow up and start engaging in activities related to like weird objects and

00:21:36.360 paraphilias. And those things don't result in children.

00:21:39.800 Yeah.

00:21:40.220 So what is the suicide rate of the trans community?

00:21:44.740 It's my understanding is that's very high.

00:21:46.540 Very high.

00:21:47.140 I'm not entirely sure.

00:21:47.340 So they're inducting children into a cult with a high suicide rate, which goes right back to

00:21:51.800 depopulization.

00:21:54.220 Perhaps. I mean, I do think it's fair to say that endocrine disruptors are a component as to why

00:22:01.180 we're seeing so many trans kids right now. And it's not so simple to say it's all social.

00:22:05.360 I do think there's a social element to it. And it could be correlation and causation could come in

00:22:10.820 either direction. That is to say, the reason we're seeing so much of this ideological bent

00:22:15.020 in, in, in, you know, towards kids is because there are people who are born of endocrine disruption,

00:22:20.800 whose hormonal imbalances has resulted in them saying, this is who I am. And I want what I see

00:22:28.200 to be spread around. But I think if you look at genderqueer, it really breaks down very, very well

00:22:32.500 what the bulk of what's happening is. Parents abused their child severely. That kid does not

00:22:40.100 understand. It's abuse because it's, it's normalized. And they have books about abuse

00:22:45.360 that kids could read, like the cage, the animals up at night and a child called it. These are books

00:22:49.960 available to, I read them in middle school, but the, the, the theme of that book is that this was

00:22:55.800 very bad. And here is how I've overcome it and grown into a person for her. It's like, this is

00:23:02.340 because I was a woman, like she's faulting, you know, people, but also not understanding what

00:23:06.580 happened to her. Like, but these other books have a reflective, like, I'm going to tell you my

00:23:11.640 experience, but I'm telling you from a point of knowing that it was wrong and it was bad now as

00:23:16.760 an adult who's adjusted. You were an ophthalmologist. Yeah. How did you go from that to making these

00:23:22.080 books? Well, um, started when I had my, my first daughter, Charlotte, but before that, so my, my fourth

00:23:30.380 year of med school, med school, I started a test prep publishing company. Um, just cause I, I started

00:23:35.000 to get a sense that I was not going to like doing, doing medicine full-time. So I started that it grew

00:23:42.160 and became pretty successful. I started a second publishing company where we did joke books and then

00:23:47.020 I was practicing, um, a pretty good amount, not full-time. And then I became a Christian in 20,

00:23:55.400 2019, early 2019. Oh, wow. Very, very quickly there. Uh, after that met the woman who's now my wife

00:24:03.160 and we got married quickly, then had a, had a kid, um, in the summer of 2020. So this is like

00:24:08.680 peak COVID craziness, peak just craziness. Um, and, and within the first few weeks of her life,

00:24:17.220 you know, it's, it's sort of like getting a new car where you see that new car everywhere because

00:24:21.380 it's raised in the love of your, of your awareness after a kid after I had no idea that there was this

00:24:26.100 indoctrination of our kids was not on my radar when she was born. It was like, I've seen it everywhere.

00:24:31.060 Oh, I've seen it. Barnes and Noble. Um, the number one book on Amazon was anti-racist baby.

00:24:36.900 And then what really sort of put me over the edge was I saw that trailer for the film cuties.

00:24:42.080 Oh yeah. And you know, Charlotte, I just, she's going to be that age before I know it. And, and just

00:24:48.340 thinking about the world that she's going to be growing up and just, I could not get out of my

00:24:52.000 head for whatever reason. And I was always thinking about, about that, that issue. And, um,

00:25:01.060 and then this idea for brave books, freedom Island started to come into my, to my mind.

00:25:06.400 And eventually it, the, the vision for it was too fun. And, and it just seemed like a fun fight

00:25:15.480 to get into and a worthwhile fight, you know, and it'd be a challenge. So, so eventually I decided to go

00:25:21.920 for it and, um, sent out some, my fear was that I didn't want to launch books, launch a company and

00:25:32.700 nobody hear about it. So I, I reached out to, um, different conservative influencers, Ashley St.

00:25:37.880 Claire responded, wrote back and said, Oh, I'd love to do this. This needs to happen and worked with

00:25:42.240 her. And first, first book was elephants, not birds. And then, and then, um, started the,

00:25:47.440 the freedom Island book club where our subscribers get a new book every single month that teaches a

00:25:52.460 new traditional value. And, um, and then, yeah, the rest is history. And we've, we've had a lot

00:25:58.120 of success where we're up over 30 employees and growing, growing crazy. Yeah. So I suppose to

00:26:04.080 exemplify why this matters, Josie, you had an experience with, with your kids, your blue state

00:26:10.200 refugee. Do you want to tell that story? Sure. So, uh, I, I mean, there's a lot to my story. It's

00:26:15.840 between the trans agenda and the COVID, everything that was happening when I lived in Massachusetts.

00:26:21.640 So I have my oldest daughter is a tomboy or she was when we lived up in Massachusetts. She's

00:26:27.160 much more girly now that we're in Florida. But, um, I received an email from an adult in her life

00:26:33.600 that was referring to her as a they, them. And it took me some time to figure out what I was reading

00:26:39.960 because it didn't make sense in the way they were doing the pronouns. Um, and I, I thought there was

00:26:46.100 like a group of people she was referring to. I read it a few times and then I realized my daughter was

00:26:50.480 being misgendered. So I wrote the person back and I said, um, did she ask you to do that? And the

00:26:57.920 person wrote back, no, I didn't want to assume though. And I was like, all right, this is, this is

00:27:03.120 kind of getting into some weird territory. My daughter had come home, uh, when she was 10 and

00:27:10.460 told me, um, and at this time it's 10. So yeah, at this time it's 2020. So we're into the COVID,

00:27:16.620 we're into the COVID stuff. So 2020, 2021. So she might've been 11 actually, now that I'm thinking

00:27:20.840 about it. Yes. 11. So she comes home. Um, we're able to like kind of see certain people, this and

00:27:27.400 that she comes home and, uh, she'd, she'd seen a friend briefly, social distance, all that bullcrap

00:27:33.180 that you have to do, uh, up there and told me she was a lesbian. And I'm thinking, okay, 11 years old,

00:27:39.680 do you like girls? And she said, no. And I'm like, then, then you're not, you know? And she was like,

00:27:46.120 started getting upset and like, well, they told me I was cause of how I dressed and what I look like.

00:27:51.720 And I was just like, all right, like, this is, this is just alarming to me at this point. Like these two

00:27:56.700 things are coming from my daughter based on what she looks like, based on the things she does,

00:28:02.320 based on who she associates with. They're drawing these conclusions that they're trying to indoctrinate

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00:29:33.300 on care. Did I mention that we care? A teacher told your daughter? Yeah. So why is a teacher going to

00:29:45.220 an 11-year-old and saying you're gay? Going to their mother. So this teacher referred to my

00:29:52.540 daughter as a they-them to me, which is when I asked her, did she tell you to do that? And the

00:29:59.660 teacher said, no, she didn't. So I'm not sure what was going on in the school, but I know to me,

00:30:05.960 my daughter was a they-them. But did your daughter say who was telling her she was a

00:30:10.880 lesbian? One of her friends or two of her friends, two of her friends. And that's the issue with

00:30:15.180 this stuff's not appropriate for children. They don't know what they're talking about.

00:30:20.500 Absolutely. She had no idea. Like I mean, she was, like I said, 11. So she had no idea.

00:30:26.080 Maybe they're just insulting her.

00:30:27.360 No, no. They were doing it in a way where they were, they wanted a gay friend.

00:30:34.580 Oh, wow.

00:30:35.220 Okay. Because this is like a clout thing for kids now, you know, to show how accepting they are

00:30:39.380 because of who their parents are and that. So that's what I got to the bottom of when I had

00:30:43.440 really dug into what the heck was going on was these kids were just wanted to have a gay friend.

00:30:49.300 And so if they had a gay friend, then they were going to get points for having the gay friend,

00:30:53.740 you know, and this is already 10, 11 years old figuring this out.

00:30:57.360 So, so, I mean, that's, those were the two really big things that pushed like me being

00:31:02.320 like, all right, you know, we have to get out of the state. We have to get somewhere where

00:31:04.780 this doesn't exist. Like, cause I know my daughter, I know my daughter better than anybody.

00:31:09.020 I know that she used to write her, you know, her crush's name on the heart and in a heart

00:31:14.380 on the bathroom mirror. And it was a boy, not a girl, you know, cause it's, it's deeply ingrained

00:31:18.900 what your, what your sexuality is even as a child, you know, when it comes to, when it comes

00:31:23.860 to that cause of how their parents model it. So, you know, I, I knew my daughter wasn't

00:31:29.980 gay, but I knew she also had to, had been a little brainwashed at that point and had

00:31:33.900 to figure it out herself. And this is stuff I've protected her from. Like she doesn't

00:31:39.100 know about the email from the teacher. She doesn't know how I dug in to figure out why

00:31:45.180 her friends were calling her a lesbian. Like she doesn't, she doesn't know any of that.

00:31:49.640 This is stuff I protected her from because I could still protect her to an extent from

00:31:53.980 the stuff that she had been exposed to where I couldn't protect her. So, so we moved to

00:32:00.260 Florida and a lot of that had to do with COVID too, lots of stuff. So it was just everything

00:32:04.340 coming down on that, but moved to Florida and we're there, we're there in Florida. It's,

00:32:09.440 it's like about three months in and she tells me, I'm so happy here. I feel like I could

00:32:15.900 be myself. I feel like when I lived up in Massachusetts, people expected me to be a

00:32:21.740 certain way and I couldn't get away from that. She's like here, she's like, I have like a new

00:32:26.340 start. So she's like, not as tomboyish anymore, you know, because girls outgrow being a tomboy

00:32:32.480 when they're in middle school. But tomboys are also targeted so hard by the queer agenda

00:32:38.540 because it targets mostly girls because girls feel really uncomfortable going through puberty.

00:32:43.600 We have very obvious changes to our bodies that make us uncomfortable and that is normal.

00:32:48.560 So the thing to do is to tell girls, this is normal to feel uncomfortable when your body is

00:32:52.540 changing. Not to say, oh, that's because you were born in the wrong body. But girls are very

00:32:56.520 easy targets for this agenda and tomboys in particular who are already starting to kind of present as

00:33:03.160 boyish. So, so she was a target, but we're living in Florida now. She's 14. She's beautiful.

00:33:10.140 Um, she, uh, she has her first boyfriend. She wears pink. We did up her room in pink and gray.

00:33:17.400 Um, she's, she still loves sports because that's who she is, but definitely not non-binary,

00:33:24.420 definitely not a lesbian. But these are things that were at a very impressionable age when her

00:33:28.700 mind was so malleable, they were coming at her with this stuff. And the fact that they came to me

00:33:34.420 about the they, them, like I said, I have no idea if that happened in the school. I know it happened to

00:33:38.040 me. I assume it was happening in the school. Yeah. I would make that assumption. Well, kudos to you.

00:33:43.680 I mean, what a, what a great story of, um, an example of a parent who, you know, fights for their

00:33:48.080 kid and knows their kid and, you know, I, I do want to say I didn't have a plan when we moved. We

00:33:55.080 just moved. Like that was it. We sold the house and we got out. Cause that's the big excuse. A lot of

00:34:01.400 people that are like, Oh, I can't, I don't have the resources. I don't have, I didn't. You just,

00:34:07.600 you just, you're like, all right, this is everything I've ever saved up. And we're just

00:34:10.400 gonna live. One of the, uh, there was a big controversy last night, the night before recording

00:34:16.460 this, where what is a woman from daily wire was censored on Twitter. I believe now as of recording

00:34:22.400 this, it's totally unlocked and can be shared and everyone's starting to share it now. And Elon saying

00:34:26.420 like the Streisand effect is going to help it and carry and all that stuff. But there's a clip from

00:34:30.880 it where a dad, one of the clips that got banned was a phone call with a dad whose daughter was

00:34:37.580 taken and undergoing a medical intervention. And the crazy thing to me was Matt Walsh says,

00:34:46.180 is your daughter on the, the, the cross-sex hormones? And he says, yes, the, the, the court

00:34:51.980 mandated she can do, she can do what she wants. And I'm just kind of like, it's amazing to me that

00:34:56.180 there are people who would say they would rather not have to deal with the struggle

00:35:00.720 of moving, selling a house. They would, they, they would rather not have to do that. Even if it meant

00:35:07.200 their child would be taken from them and placed in a medical intervention that would sterilize

00:35:13.440 or destroy them. And it's just strange to me, but maybe, maybe, I don't know. I don't have kids.

00:35:18.620 So I kind of just assumed that parents would do anything to save their kids. When I hear stories

00:35:24.740 of people saying like, I live in the city and I can't leave. And there, there's two,

00:35:29.240 there's two takes on this. If I hear about someone who's like, look, my job's here. I'm not going to

00:35:35.180 leave. And I'm like, it's kind of crazy that you would keep your children in these environments

00:35:40.260 because it's too, because it's not that it's impossible, but that it's just difficult.

00:35:45.460 I'm like, wouldn't you run into a burning building for your kid is selling your house and moving the

00:35:49.340 hardest thing. Now, to be fair, there are many people pointed out they literally can't leave for a

00:35:52.740 variety of reasons. There are a lot of reasons people are stuck in cities and that is where it

00:35:55.740 gets scary. The notable one is there are many people who are like, my wife left me and took

00:36:00.020 the kids. There's nothing I can do and I'm not going to abandon them. I'm going to stay here and

00:36:03.360 keep fighting for them. And I'm like, that I get. Yes. Can't do anything about that. Yeah. But in the,

00:36:08.200 in the story of, uh, you know, when I have people email saying like, look, I live here,

00:36:12.740 my whole life's here, my family, my friends, I can't just up and leave. I'm like, I get that.

00:36:18.100 But that's an emotional argument about it's really, really hard to leave. Yeah. My question

00:36:22.860 is if in five years your child has been placed on sterilization drugs of some sort, would you then

00:36:29.940 think back and say, maybe I should have just left and moved or homeschool, you know? Yep. That's the

00:36:36.580 way to get them out. Yeah. Yeah. That's the other thing. People are like, oh, I just can't, I just

00:36:39.960 can't homeschool. And you know, I get that. Cause there are, you have a full-time job. You're a single

00:36:43.820 parent. You can't homeschool. Like I totally get that. There's co-ops. There's, there's different

00:36:47.920 ways to do it with people who are like-minded than you. There's your private schools. There's

00:36:51.560 charter schools that aren't all that bad. And you even do find some public schools that really have

00:36:55.940 great school committees who are on top of this. Um, especially in Florida, you're, you're very

00:37:01.420 lucky to find those. But what, what was on my radar when I was going through this in Massachusetts

00:37:07.080 was that they were starting to talk about laws that would, if you didn't recognize your child's

00:37:11.900 identity, they would take your child from you because it was child abuse. Um, and they have

00:37:16.260 those. That's what that clip was about. Exactly. And they have that now. They have that where

00:37:20.540 they can do that. They have, uh, these bills, they're called trans refugee bills. Have you

00:37:24.780 seen these? All right. So it's Minnesota, Washington. Uh, I think Maine's trying to pass one right

00:37:29.980 now. Um, so what, what these are is they say, if you are a child and you can't get your sex

00:37:37.960 change in Florida, say you can come to our state, we'll do it. We'll put you, we'll,

00:37:42.560 we'll chop off your breasts. We'll put you on hormones. We'll do all of that. Um, without

00:37:47.720 your parents' consent and we will not extradite you. So it is legalized trafficking, legalized

00:37:53.280 kidnapping, mutilation, sterilization of children. And they have this in States now. And it was

00:37:57.100 kind of the knee jerk reaction to Florida's bill saying, we're not going to sex change children

00:38:01.940 here. Yeah. This is what they did, man. This all goes to dark places. Washington. Washington

00:38:08.200 is where they can kidnap your child. How do you have States that are becoming so hyper

00:38:13.840 polarized when it comes to the issue of abortion, when it comes to the issue of sex

00:38:18.180 changes for children, you've got some States that are absolutist in some States that are,

00:38:23.320 uh, uh, abolitionist. Yeah. And so, you know, using that language, of course, I wonder where

00:38:29.360 this, this ends up. If you know, a lot of people have said, it's a good thing. I hear

00:38:34.340 that a lot from conservatives. It's very interesting to me to say, it's good that we're getting

00:38:37.120 federalization. Let the blue States do what they want. And I'm like, okay, well, the blue

00:38:40.560 States are saying they're going to take your kids without your consent or knowledge, and

00:38:43.120 they're going to sterilize them. What do you not think that law enforcement should be able

00:38:47.520 to, if your child runs away to Washington at 14, 15, and the S the state of Washington then

00:38:56.280 performs a sterilization procedure, whatever the procedure may be, the federal government's

00:39:01.640 not gonna do anything for you. What do you do? I mean, there's, there's not much that,

00:39:06.220 that you can do. Like if the Congress passed these laws, the Congress is in their, in their

00:39:11.360 States, their state legislatures pass these laws saying, Oh, we're, we're a trans refuge

00:39:16.200 state now is what they call them. So, um, so the police can't do anything because it's,

00:39:21.460 it's lawful. Well, I, what is in our control as, as parents is what our kids are exposed

00:39:27.460 to and how, how they're brought up. And so, you know, I would imagine that these kids that

00:39:35.620 are, get sent to Minnesota and California for sex change operations, like they, they weren't

00:39:42.100 brought up in a way where they were just instilled in truth and solid values. And, and they were

00:39:48.620 left their, their children are vulnerable and it sounds like they were left out with

00:39:53.840 the wolves. And, and so, so to me, you know, some things that we can do as parents to make

00:39:59.820 sure our kids don't end up, you know, as refugees, um, to get there, to get sterilized is we, we,

00:40:07.980 we teach them truth. We teach them right from wrong. We get them away from screens until they

00:40:14.040 are like 16, 18, where their brains fully developed their, their, their worldviews developed.

00:40:19.260 Um, we, we pay attention to who, who they hang out with. We, um, we, we, we ourselves, we, I think

00:40:28.100 we, all of us need to do a better job of building stronger communities. Community in this country

00:40:34.140 has just evaporated and it's left all of us vulnerable because we don't have those roots,

00:40:39.380 you know, roots give us strength and purpose and, and strong relationships that, hey, if I, if I know

00:40:47.680 what, if I say something stupid here, I'm still going to be beloved back home because I have a

00:40:52.460 strong community. But if all my relationships are online and they're fragile and they're,

00:40:56.820 they're shallow, then I'm vulnerable for groupthink and, and all of that. So, so I think it just comes

00:41:03.360 down to, we just need to do a better job with our kids as parents. And I, then I think a lot of

00:41:07.360 these government, you know, a lot of these issues won't affect our kids.

00:41:13.280 Yes. You make a lot of really good points. I do want to point out though, that a lot of children

00:41:17.260 even raised in the best household because of who they associate with will rebel. And in the way

00:41:23.560 that, you know, I may have rebelled as like a skater kid in the nineties, they might rebel as

00:41:28.920 trans. They might rebel as non-binary. They might rebel in a different way to kind of set them apart

00:41:35.560 because that seems to be what, what this is a lot of the time. So it is very important to

00:41:39.940 know your children's friends, to meet their parents, make sure that they're there, that

00:41:43.840 they're, that they're from good, a good home. Yeah. Something. Cause if your child's going to be

00:41:48.640 spending time there, then your child's going to be in that home too. And you want to just make sure

00:41:51.700 that they're safe as well. You know where we're headed? Where? There's going to be,

00:41:55.660 and may already be, let's say you live in Texas and you think, look, my kid goes to a good private

00:42:06.000 school. We're good kid at the local park. You know, let's say your kid's 12 or whatever, riding

00:42:11.880 bikes and has got little friends, a little Jimmy, Johnny, Sarah, and Jenna. And you're like, they're

00:42:18.960 good kids. I see them playing. Nothing weird out of the question. Your kid goes and hangs out with

00:42:25.880 Jenna's parents at Jenna's house and they're having a birthday party and Jenna's parents are very woke,

00:42:31.600 but also they know not to say these things to conservatives. They're very concerned. If we say

00:42:38.020 they may freak out and it could be bad for the child. And then without your knowledge, your kid

00:42:42.960 is being told you're actually a lesbian. You're actually, yeah, I can tell by the way you dress. Did your

00:42:48.000 parents tell you this? Do they let you know? And the kid says, no. And it's like, they'll probably

00:42:51.740 get really mad at you. This is very groomerish behavior. But you know where I see this going?

00:42:56.100 With these new laws, it's only a matter of time before one of these kids says, do you feel like

00:43:01.960 it? Yeah, you do? Yeah. Okay. Get in the car. They drive them to Colorado or whatever state nearby.

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00:44:31.360 really big on care. Did I mention that we care? You now haven't heard from your kid. They bring

00:44:40.960 them to Washington and they say this child is trans and needs the procedure. You freak out and call the

00:44:46.980 police. Washington says they did nothing wrong. There's literally nothing wrong with what they

00:44:51.740 did. It's protected under the law. That makes my skin crawl as a mom, that story. Now, I think

00:44:58.340 some iteration of that is the doors being opened because of the laws, the sanctuary laws that are

00:45:05.220 being passed. Texas will still say something like, you kidnapped this child, and they'll say,

00:45:11.120 do something. Washington's protecting us. The federal government, of course, under Democrats,

00:45:16.360 they'll be like, nothing wrong. Nothing wrong happened. A child is being abused and they say,

00:45:21.440 rescue the child. Bye. And then you don't see your kid. Or when you do, they come back, they're

00:45:26.500 sterile. Oh my God. That's like a terrifying future. That's frightening. Well, this is, how would a child

00:45:33.240 get to Washington? They have to, they could take a bus or to get a ride. Yeah. So another scenario is

00:45:40.080 one of your kid's friends' parents, because you don't know them, says, I'm going to give you

00:45:45.840 $100. You get on this bus and you go to Washington and you get the procedure. They're going to say,

00:45:52.060 they're going to say, people there will take care of you and they'll go, okay, okay. And this kid

00:45:56.020 is impressionable, doesn't understand. They get driven to the bus and then the kid gets on the

00:46:00.080 bus and says, I didn't do anything. The child told me that they were being abused. So I gave them

00:46:04.160 some money. That's it. And then in Texas, they're going to say, well, Jenna's parents didn't do

00:46:09.140 anything wrong. And then you're gonna say, where is my child? Where did my kid go? And then you're

00:46:13.560 going to get a phone call two or three weeks later saying, this is Washington Department of Health and

00:46:18.300 Human Services letting you know, we've provided gender affirming care to your child. Her breasts

00:46:23.160 have been removed. She has, you know, undergone cross-sex hormones. And because of the concern of

00:46:29.880 abuse, we will not be returning her to you. That's it. My kids aren't ever seeing friends again.

00:46:34.160 Yeah. Oh, what's that? I have a funny story about my- I think Florida's mostly okay though,

00:46:39.640 you know? Funny story about one of my daughter's friends. She gets a, she gets a text from one of

00:46:43.320 her friends in Florida and she goes, and he goes, is your mom the redheaded libertarian? And she goes,

00:46:47.820 yeah. She goes, I was watching Timcast with my dad and I pointed out that's my daughter's name,

00:46:54.000 mom. And he didn't believe me. So this is like the friend she just had at school. She hadn't been

00:47:00.300 hanging out with him or anything. So yeah, he'd been over for like her birthday party or

00:47:04.020 something. So I ended up bringing her to his house a few weeks later. And like the dad comes

00:47:08.740 out and the mom comes out and they're just like, I'm like, your kid is not a liar.

00:47:13.460 This is where it gets weird because for me, at least I'm not, I'm not Christian, but this

00:47:17.540 is why church is so important. It's why I've praised Shabbat with Jewish families. It's why

00:47:23.320 I think church is so important because what you get with these are people of strong morals meeting

00:47:30.080 with each other, sharing a particular worldview. And it is a safe place. The thing I think I find

00:47:37.800 absolutely fascinating about Shabbat, Jewish families say disconnect Friday evening and it's

00:47:44.440 family time until Saturday evening. And what that does is it creates a protective barrier against the

00:47:49.720 ills of social media where your kids are trying to indoctrinate you and all these things. Now you

00:47:54.820 have 24 hours where it's just the family together talking. And then if a kid says something, they can

00:47:59.580 say, let me explain to you. Yeah. The same thing with church. You have people on Sunday, they show up,

00:48:06.280 they, they share a communal moral framework. They know each other, they trust each other, and it is

00:48:11.760 substantially safer having your children associate. You know, what really blew my mind? I was hanging out

00:48:18.040 with Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes. He was at church and, you know, he let us know like, I'll be,

00:48:24.660 I'll be getting out around this time. We'll meet up. We meet up with them and we're hanging out outside

00:48:28.120 of this church in Charlestown, West Virginia. And all of these little kids are wearing, wearing,

00:48:32.760 they're dressed up. They have ties, they have button up shirts. And I was just thinking to myself,

00:48:36.620 like, look, man, you can rag on religion and Christianity and whatever, and there's bad people of all

00:48:44.480 backgrounds. But when I see a bunch of little kids dressed nicely, being polite, giggling and having

00:48:50.180 a good time. And then I think about what it was like in Chicago at these public schools. I'm like,

00:48:55.480 church is better for your kids, religious schools. I, I, I wonder about this, you know,

00:49:04.000 because I went to Catholic school when I was younger and my parents, uh, who are Christian and my mom is

00:49:09.820 still very Christian, said it wasn't about religion. It was about community and a good

00:49:16.480 school that would raise kids. Right. That's why they wanted us to go there. And then eventually we

00:49:21.520 went, we, we encountered hard times. It became expensive. So public school was free and that's

00:49:24.680 what we opted for. But I do think it was, it was very good for me to go from, from kindergarten until

00:49:31.720 the end of fifth grade at a Catholic school, which was much more rigid and then go to public school and

00:49:37.940 go, my God, like seeing what was going on in public schools was crazy. Drugs, drinking. And these

00:49:43.760 are, these are middle schoolers. And you were South side, right? Yeah. Yeah. Southwest. Okay. You

00:49:48.020 know, so it's, it's the South side. It's, it's rough, but it's like slightly better than the like

00:49:52.760 South side. South side. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, you, you touched on a lot and, and,

00:50:00.020 and, but there, it's not a coincidence that as America, you know, we used to, we used to be a

00:50:09.020 strongly Christian country and over the past 30, 40 years, it's become more or less a secular

00:50:14.200 country. And, and I, I think, I think that's probably at the root of a lot of this is you,

00:50:19.700 you had stronger churches. You had just the, the overall culture was a Christian culture and,

00:50:25.300 and that was the standard. And, and, and as we've gone away from that, it's just, it's a lot of chaos

00:50:32.920 because there's, we all, we all, we all want to be our own gods, you know, and being our own gods

00:50:39.360 allow us to make our own rules of what's right and wrong. And that's a recipe for chaos. And I think

00:50:43.860 that's what we're seeing. Yeah. I think a large component of the culture war is a Judeo-Christian

00:50:50.840 moral framework versus no moral framework at all, or a fascistic moral framework that believes there

00:50:56.560 is no truth, but power. Right. And that's the, the postmodernists, that's the neo-Marxists.

00:51:01.460 They, they believe they're justified in lies and manipulation because the only thing that matters

00:51:06.880 is whether or not you can wield power effectively. And there's some truth to that. People who have

00:51:11.300 power can control people's minds and they can influence culture. And I suppose the interesting

00:51:18.140 thing is me, I believe there's a God. I believe beyond this universe, beyond us, there is something

00:51:25.720 greater in however you want to describe it. And I think it is infinitely ignorant to assume humans are

00:51:31.260 the end all be all of, of consciousness. In which case, whether you believe in God or, or, or not,

00:51:37.220 there is likely mathematically something more powerful, something more capable, more intelligent,

00:51:44.720 wherever, however, whatever. And then you have people who just genuinely do not believe that

00:51:49.760 they believe they are the center of the universe and thus there will be done. Yeah. And that is a

00:51:55.440 creepy thing in my opinion. But I say that knowing they don't believe that. And one of the mistakes I

00:52:02.520 think we make when it comes to the culture war is telling someone, Hey, this is wrong because of this.

00:52:08.360 And in their mind, they don't care. You can say it is creepy for you to believe your God. And they

00:52:15.780 think to themselves, ha ha ha, what an idiot, because they believe their God. They believe that

00:52:20.140 we are figments of their imagination. And that's a, an extreme way to put it. But many of these people

00:52:25.220 have this, um, Satanist view in a sense of they are, you know, the, the end all be all their

00:52:34.120 existence, their reality. It is about them. Yes. That's a Satanism. So you were explaining

00:52:40.340 that your belief is that like, you don't follow a structured religion, but you believe there's a

00:52:44.440 God or higher power or something overall. Oh yeah, absolutely. So that is a deism. It's actually

00:52:49.640 what many of our founding fathers who were came here as an evangelicals and, um, of, of other

00:52:54.620 Christian religions, all or most of them, many of them, uh, Thomas Paine, George Washington,

00:52:59.820 many of them ended up go like moving more as they were, as they were building this country

00:53:05.000 and writing the bill of rights and the constitution. And as they were figuring out like natural

00:53:08.560 rights and deciding that many of them started gearing more toward deism, like, okay, maybe

00:53:13.380 it's not that there is a structured religion, but there is something greater than us to answer

00:53:18.740 to, or something greater than us that created us. And so it's deism is a, is a, that's, that's

00:53:24.220 a lot what smart guys. Um, I do think if you look at the Christian moral framework,

00:53:29.800 there's obvious that you can always look back at anything and be like, look how evil

00:53:34.620 it was. Anything people talk about, you know, Oh, the slave trade in the United States.

00:53:40.660 So how evil the founding of this country was. And then I'm like, let's go back a little

00:53:43.900 bit further. Oh, how evil it was for these African nations to capture and sell off their

00:53:47.960 enemies as slaves. There's evil everywhere. Let's try and get rid of that and maintain

00:53:53.180 the good. And so I look at, I love bringing up this point because I get to, uh,

00:53:59.220 challenge Bill Maher, Bill Maher, his whole worldview is a Christian moral framework.

00:54:05.240 There's no question. And he doesn't understand this. He thinks he's an atheist. He is an atheist

00:54:10.540 and that's fine. But as long as he understands his moral framework is, is Christian, what he

00:54:16.640 doesn't understand his view that you are innocent until proven guilty, his belief in free speech,

00:54:22.440 these things are rooted in the, in the Judeo Christian moral framework. There's differences

00:54:28.200 between Judaism, uh, Jewish moral framework and Christian moral framework, but they, they heavily

00:54:32.160 overlap. People in China don't have that concept of, of innocent until proven guilty. They did not

00:54:39.020 develop a culture based on these biblical moral frameworks. Yeah. There are things in the Bible

00:54:45.340 that we now deem very bad, you know, talk about slavery and stuff. Yeah. We we've moved beyond

00:54:50.900 that. We, we, we respect the rights of humans, but we've built and retained, built upon and retained

00:54:56.680 some of the best ideas. The easiest example I often use is the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

00:55:01.680 If there's but one righteous man, this, you know, I will spare the city. And that is the root of

00:55:05.920 innocent until proven guilty. That's where Blackstone's formulation originates. That's where

00:55:11.580 Benjamin Franklin's quote originates. And that's how we get the fifth and sixth amendments.

00:55:15.540 That's how we, as the American people protect the innocent and have created

00:55:19.620 the greatest nation this, this world has ever seen in China, which is becoming very powerful.

00:55:25.360 They did not have that. They've never had that. So what do they get? Well, Chinese communism,

00:55:30.060 they have feudalism, they have imperialism, and now they have Chinese communism in their world.

00:55:35.620 In, in, in their perspective, there is no innocent until proven guilty.

00:55:39.160 It is you're, you're accused of a crime. We remove you from society because you are dangerous

00:55:43.440 and then we'll figure it out. So for someone like Bill Maher to say, I believe this, that,

00:55:48.580 this, and we should run these things. The woke are bad, they're cultists, and all, whatever he

00:55:52.500 wants to say. I'm like, Dennis Prager called it cut flower politics, I believe. The root,

00:55:58.660 the flower has been cut from the root, and it still looks beautiful for a little bit,

00:56:01.700 but then starts to decay. And Bill Maher represents that in that there are so many good ideas he has

00:56:07.220 that doesn't understand are unique to a Christian moral framework. And that it doesn't mean you need

00:56:13.500 to believe in God, but you can certainly understand the teachings that we've chosen to keep

00:56:17.320 as to why they're a good thing. And that's where I come back to, I think the church is a massive net

00:56:22.340 positive in building community, bringing people together, getting rid of the bad ideas, and

00:56:28.980 progressing with the good ideas. Here's the challenge the church has, in my opinion. This country still

00:56:34.180 is majority Christian, like 70%, I think, somewhere around there. They're too tolerant. Absolutely too

00:56:40.120 tolerant. And a lot of live and let live. Yeah. And it's, it's to a certain degree, virtuous,

00:56:47.180 but, but not really. Right. Tolerance to a certain degree just becomes letting your child jump off a

00:56:53.120 cliff. Right. So at a certain point, we say we want to love, let live and respect. But you have to

00:56:59.480 recognize that there will always be a red line. And if you don't enforce that, this is what you get.

00:57:03.940 Exactly. Yeah. If you let the devil into the public square, then, then chaos ensues. And, and the

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00:58:54.760 So something interesting about how our country's rooted in Judeo-Christian, because people will

00:59:01.040 push back on that immediately and say, no, it's not. But it is. It's because the Declaration of

00:59:05.860 Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, all of these things are rooted from,

00:59:12.640 but they took a lot of that from the Magna Carta. The Magna Carta is rooted in Judeo-Christian

00:59:16.720 principles. So, and that was their major, that was like their outline for what they were going to

00:59:23.000 do to our country was the Magna Carta. So, that's a truth, you know, and people will push back against

00:59:29.820 that saying it's not a Christian country, but technically.

00:59:33.100 You mentioned, you know, the Founding Fathers being deist, many of them overt Christians.

00:59:38.240 Obviously, this country was like 99.9% Christian back then. And so to say that, it's strange to me

00:59:45.140 that the left makes the argument that the country was intended to be secular. And it's like, no,

00:59:49.600 I'm pretty sure there are quotes about, because Seamus definitely loves to bring this up,

00:59:54.000 that the country is intended for a religious people or something like that, a moral...

00:59:59.480 Yes, Jefferson. Yep, Jefferson has a quote. I don't remember it off the top of my head,

01:00:03.320 but it was something about that. Like, if this country will not stand if there is not a moral

01:00:08.220 framework, essentially, was what Jefferson's quote was.

01:00:10.940 Yeah, because there's too much freedom. And, you know, with capitalism...

01:00:14.120 So, you need more morality as a red line.

01:00:16.760 Yeah, exactly.

01:00:17.620 Exactly.

01:00:18.540 The red line shouldn't come from government. It should come from our own God-given conscience.

01:00:24.060 Yes.

01:00:24.880 And so when there isn't that, capitalism, democracy turns into not very good systems.

01:00:32.320 Exactly.

01:00:33.200 So when it comes to atrocities like abortion, I always look to Dr. Ron Paul about this. He says,

01:00:40.620 abortion should be unthinkable, not illegal. All right? Because it should be such an unthinkable,

01:00:47.540 tragic, awful thing to happen that the government doesn't need to get involved because there's no

01:00:53.900 reason to make it illegal because our moral framework is so fixed that this is bad. This

01:01:00.660 is objectively bad.

01:01:02.300 I say it all the time. Laws are meaningless. The Constitution, unfortunately, meaningless.

01:01:09.320 Now, I don't mean that in an absolute sense. What I mean to say is the meaning of the Constitution

01:01:14.840 is absolutely fantastic. The meaning of the Bill of Rights and many of the amendments,

01:01:19.660 many of them, not all of them, are fantastic. The concept is brilliant. But it only works if you

01:01:25.300 agree. If there are three people in a room, someone says, hey, if we order pizza, we all split the

01:01:32.240 bill. You say, yes. The pizza shows up, everybody eats. And then one guy says, I ain't paying anything.

01:01:36.580 What can you do about it? You can say, get out. You can say, we won't do deals with you anymore.

01:01:40.480 But the reality is the agreement you had is meaningless if people are unwilling to abide by it.

01:01:46.220 We have a Constitution in this country which sets forth the framework for how the country operates.

01:01:51.200 Typically, when we mention the Constitution, it's really fascinating to me. We're talking about the

01:01:53.800 Bill of Rights specifically because the Constitution has a lot of stuff in it. Like here's how the

01:01:57.660 executive branch operates. Yeah. We really mean the Bill of Rights, the amendments that were added

01:02:00.780 to it. So it is the Constitution. The amendments are completely meaningless to a society that was

01:02:07.260 moving towards chaos and no moral framework. Because sooner or later, if we don't resist the

01:02:14.660 breakdown, you get a knock on the door. And there's a police officer saying, you engaged in

01:02:20.060 hate speech. Why? You bought a pride flag and you burned it. And then they say, because of that,

01:02:25.380 you're under arrest. And you say, but it's my property. Burning flags is constitutional practice.

01:02:29.560 It's like, we don't care what the Constitution says. You've offended us. And we have power. Turn

01:02:34.440 around. Put your hands behind your back or else. This is why you got to get to red states.

01:02:39.100 For sure. I mean, pick your red state well. But blue states, that's going to happen in blue states.

01:02:45.200 It's less likely to happen in a red state. They tend to, you know, not care, not do anything,

01:02:50.120 which is what conservatives can kind of be famous for, is not doing anything. Like being a big talk,

01:02:56.500 but not really walking a walk. So that's my recommendation. I did it. You should do it too if you need to.

01:03:00.780 I think we should, we can play that game. If they say that burning a pride flag is hate speech and

01:03:07.000 intimidation, then burning an American flag is too, because national, a nation of origin is a

01:03:11.720 protected class. There you go. So if someone is choosing to destroy an American flag, that's hate

01:03:17.660 speech. You got to play their own game better than them. That's how you beat them. You know, in the end,

01:03:22.900 I think if you own a flag, you should be allowed to burn it just safely. Like it's funny when the left

01:03:27.840 tries to burn an American flag in the middle of the street and the cops stop, you know,

01:03:31.640 stop them from doing it. And they're like, this is protected under the constitution. It's like,

01:03:34.240 no, no, no. You misunderstand. Not in a public space where you are threatening the lives of other

01:03:38.700 people by starting large fires. Yes, exactly. Perhaps on your own property where you're legally

01:03:43.320 allowed to have fires, you can burn your own property within reason, because there's even

01:03:46.720 laws against, I'm pretty sure it might be illegal to burn a flag because of the chemicals that are in

01:03:49.660 it, you know, dyes or whatever they use or the synthetics and stuff like that.

01:03:53.200 It's all about getting that clip of the cops stopping them from burning the flag for level

01:03:58.280 one thinkers who don't realize that they're being stopped because they're going to start a fire and

01:04:03.540 kill people in a public space. I think one thing that should start happening is parents should sue

01:04:10.840 schools that have pride imagery in the classroom and say these symbols are antagonistic and offensive

01:04:17.300 to Christians and Christians are a protected class. I think Florida parents can push back on

01:04:23.820 things. I'm not sure if that's one of them, but Florida parents are able to. In Massachusetts,

01:04:27.720 there is a kid who wore a shirt that said there are two, there are two genders and they said you

01:04:34.040 can't wear that because it's offensive to people of different gender identities. He didn't insult

01:04:39.800 anybody. He stated his, he stated a scientific fact. Yeah. Now granted they changed the definition

01:04:45.920 of gender. You can make it mean whatever you want to mean, but why is that offensive to anybody?

01:04:51.580 Okay. If that's the case, if they say this innocuous statement is offensive, I say the pride flag is

01:04:57.660 offensive, but the problem is conservatives just play defense. So they wear the shirt smugly smile and

01:05:03.640 then get sued and then told to take the shirt off. And I'm like, sue them, make them take their,

01:05:08.580 the judge ruled. The kid can't wear the shirt until the case is settled. It's like, okay,

01:05:12.900 in the meat, I would demand to the judge than any other symbols that are deemed offensive by Christians

01:05:17.160 be removed from the class as well. And I guarantee you, you can get 1 million signatures from

01:05:23.700 Christians saying pride flags are offensive overnight. I'd be willing to bet if I went right

01:05:27.500 now and said, fill out this form. If you're a Christian who finds pride imagery offensive,

01:05:33.620 then here you go, your honor, here's 1 million people. I think that warrants,

01:05:39.200 this is offensive to a protected class. I mean, it's bastardizing the covenant with God.

01:05:43.680 That's exactly my point. Yeah. I mean, exactly. They've taken, they've taken God's covenant

01:05:49.460 with man and turned it into, you know, celebrating gay sex. Yeah, exactly.

01:05:55.800 That's offensive. But Christians don't do anything about it. Right. Right. So, so what is the best way for

01:06:01.940 conservatives to start being on the offense? I mean, I, I think we, we have to engage with our

01:06:10.420 kids and we have to teach them the values. That's what brave books is doing. And we have to build our

01:06:15.340 own communities, but what else? Like, like, how else do we take the country back? If they come for

01:06:22.300 you, you come for them. So it's, so it's about more than just being a great parent and having a

01:06:28.100 community. It's like, if the outsiders come for you, then you go for the outsiders while also,

01:06:33.880 you know, minding your business, taking care of your family and doing your community and all of

01:06:37.220 that. But you gotta, you gotta stop the outsiders and hit them back. Cause that's a lot of, we mind

01:06:43.740 our business, which is wonderful, but also elections. I mean, these people are determined.

01:06:50.780 They, they, they, I don't, I don't know what happened, but you have a left that is driven

01:06:56.400 by this vitriolic rage and you have a complacent traditional class. I don't even like to say

01:07:04.060 conservative because what we're seeing on the culture war is disaffected liberals.

01:07:07.060 Yeah.

01:07:07.580 You know, uh, even Bill Maher is now more and more complaining about the left and he's a secular

01:07:12.920 guy. So I think ultimately you have to, we're starting to see it though. I I'm, I'm not

01:07:19.700 saying any of this to be like, Oh, the end is nine. We're doomed. I actually feel fairly optimistic,

01:07:22.880 especially with what you guys are doing. Clearly there is a red line and people have been pushed

01:07:27.540 up against the wall and they're starting to get angry about it. You got to sue. You can't just be

01:07:33.820 sued. You know, or, or, you know, what they're doing is Massachusetts, they're suing saying the kid

01:07:39.380 can wear this. How did it get to the point where the kid was told not to in the first place?

01:07:43.860 Why do you have to sue? It's because you don't sue. So be proactive. I say,

01:07:48.960 anybody who hears this, if your kids are in a school with pride flags, file the lawsuit. Now

01:07:54.140 reach out to like America first legal or something. There, there are tons of nonprofits that will sue

01:07:59.280 and say this symbol is a, in fact, you can even approach it another way. The rainbow is a religious

01:08:05.200 iconography. It is God's covenant. And then putting it in the schools is a violation of separation of

01:08:11.160 church and state. I like that. Not so. Oh no, this is the pride flag. It means Bible. It was a symbol

01:08:17.280 of God's covenant and you're sneaking it in. Now you don't need to do that. I think you should

01:08:20.960 outright just say it's an offensive symbol because it appropriates God's covenant as an

01:08:25.900 insult to Christians. Yeah. And if they don't, if they say we disagree, be like, it doesn't matter

01:08:30.360 if you agree or not. That kid was told he can't wear the two genders shirt by a judge. Judge says

01:08:34.340 you can't wear it. Now it's pending, but he says, while it's pending, you can't wear it. I say,

01:08:38.360 okay, if the basis for which you cannot wear a shirt is someone got offended,

01:08:43.200 take them pride flags down right now. You can't play that game. And unfortunately this kid and his

01:08:48.900 family and the legal team, their, their mentality is we don't complain when you put up the pride flag

01:08:52.960 because you're allowed to believe what you want. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no complain.

01:08:57.480 The schools should not be putting up religious iconography. I view the pride flag as religious.

01:09:04.180 It is a non-theistic religion. It has all the tenets of religion. It has the structures of

01:09:08.580 religion. And just because you say, but it's not, sorry, you can't play the game. When the schools

01:09:13.680 tried to introduce creationist curriculum, they said, no, it's religious. Nothing about creationism

01:09:18.820 is religious. In fact, it could be simulist. It is the, it is a scientific perspective. The universe

01:09:24.440 is in fact a simulation, in which case the concept of basic creation is a scientific thesis. Nope,

01:09:31.220 it's banned. It's religious. Okay. Well then pride, Marxism, all that stuff, religion,

01:09:35.900 get it out of the schools, CRT, et cetera. I don't know. It seems like, it seems like fighting

01:09:41.440 on their turf is a losing battle and, and the pub public education system, you know, they've

01:09:47.440 been captured. And I, I think we need to, I think we need to be in, we need to be innovative

01:09:54.140 and come up with just redesign, redesign things, redesign schools, redesign communities.

01:10:01.780 I mean, like there's all sorts of, there's, I don't know how we're still doing school the

01:10:07.140 same way and that there's not options, you know, but like states should, should support

01:10:12.220 entrepreneurship in schools. You know, like there's all sorts of ideas. I, I've, I've got

01:10:16.720 an idea for what I think is being an awesome school. Like you, you, you, you, it's like a mix

01:10:22.320 between Hogwarts, homesteading and military training. Okay. I'm, I'm following. Yeah.

01:10:28.140 You, you break kids up into like four, four houses, you get a plot of land, four acres. So

01:10:32.840 and all right, this house is responsible for this acre and they've got their animals, their,

01:10:36.840 their farm and, and they're, they engage in some commerce and they're competing sort of against the

01:10:41.880 other houses. And, and that's a great idea. And then, and then, you know, engaging in, in some

01:10:48.640 military tactics, training, physical, you know, especially boys, you know, it would be all boys

01:10:53.340 science contests. You think only in all boys school, I think you do. Well, I, I think boys

01:11:00.260 need to be around each other and boys and girls are different and you can do girls, something very

01:11:04.220 similar, but maybe not so physical and military type stuff. No. Right. Yeah. I, I, I like the idea.

01:11:09.660 It's brilliant. I think, I think it should be a co-ed school, but I think you can have boys and

01:11:13.260 girls programs. So it's like the boys at this time will go and do this training and the girls at this

01:11:17.380 time. We'll, we'll go and do this kind of training, but they still socially interact,

01:11:20.940 you know, maybe, maybe there's girls in their own houses, you know, like Hogwarts, like Hogwarts.

01:11:26.960 Yeah. Yeah. Actually, did they do that? No, they were mixed. They were mixed in the video game.

01:11:31.600 They're not mixed. Oh really? Yeah. In the video game, you have to choose which, which,

01:11:34.400 which dorm you go in. The boys and girls are separate. Huh? Boys. Maybe it's the movies that did

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01:13:08.340 You know, you do. You set it up and you call it Hogwarts. You don't call it military training. You

01:13:13.940 call it Defense Against the Dark Arts.

01:13:15.400 Yes.

01:13:15.800 And then you go to millennial urban liberal parents and say, it's like a Hogwarts thing.

01:13:20.060 The kids are sorted. We don't really have a sorting hat. That's not possible. But it's a fun

01:13:24.480 experience where the kids get to...

01:13:26.560 You can put it in AI. AI can sort them.

01:13:28.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have them answer personality tests and then they get sorted into different

01:13:32.620 houses. And you call it the Hogwarts experience or you say, it's not Hogwarts because, you know,

01:13:38.340 it's copyrighted. But we want kids to have a summer camp experience where they get to be like they're

01:13:43.780 going to Hogwarts. And it's not real magic. But, you know, the Defense Against the Dark Arts will be

01:13:49.260 like, we'll teach the kids a little taekwondo, a little karate and stuff.

01:13:52.020 You can learn the Bible.

01:13:53.900 Yeah. You can't bring it to the millennial parent.

01:13:56.380 Magic book. The magic book.

01:13:58.300 The magic book. There will be magic books and things like that.

01:14:01.900 Yeah.

01:14:02.300 But then you'll get millennial parents be like, oh, that sounds like so much fun. And then what's

01:14:06.000 actually happening is whether you get the Bible in there or not, you give kids a structure,

01:14:10.140 you give them obedience. I think it's a good way to actually get liberal parents to bring their

01:14:16.420 kids out to something that may introduce these traditional moral values without being so overt.

01:14:24.080 Summer camp.

01:14:25.100 Yeah.

01:14:25.380 Two months, you get sorted into one of four houses. They play sports against each other.

01:14:30.720 They still interact with each other. Nobody's trying to make anybody against each other,

01:14:33.920 but they have their team basically. And they get a plot of land. They can learn how to garden and

01:14:37.860 there'll be animals and it'll be so much fun. And then when the kids come there, they get

01:14:41.500 real moral life training.

01:14:44.840 Yeah.

01:14:45.580 That's a good idea.

01:14:46.360 Well, there's all sorts of opportunities like that for just creativity and building new

01:14:50.100 things. And to me, that's what we're trying to do at Brave Books. And I think it's a better

01:14:57.780 way to go about it than, I don't know. It's like, I want to care for kids that are in public

01:15:03.340 schools because I grew up in a public school. You don't want to just forgo that, but it seems

01:15:08.740 like a losing battle, at least for the time being until there's a spiritual revival across

01:15:14.640 the country that changes all these institutions.

01:15:17.320 It was Dr. Peterson who had talked about this in one of his clips that I watched said, boys

01:15:24.220 should be playing all the time to the point of exhaustion every single day. And so at this

01:15:32.620 point, he was saying schools are structured all wrong for boys. He goes, boys need to play

01:15:37.360 like sunup to sundown constantly, like roughhousing, touching, running, like everything. And he said,

01:15:45.220 but instead people are like, oh, my child has ADHD, you know? And so they, they put them on drugs

01:15:52.600 and, and instead of just, and then they're like, I bet your child doesn't have ADHD. This is what

01:15:57.280 Dr. Peterson said. He's like, I bet you, your child can sit in front of a video game and play that

01:16:01.440 straight through with no interruptions. Cause they don't, they don't have ADHD. They just need to be

01:16:07.300 a boy. Yeah. I think, uh, schools are trash. And, uh, if I was going to structure some kind of

01:16:15.400 learning facility, it would be, there's gotta be games. It's not about play the video game,

01:16:22.940 have fun. You walk away. It's about this child must learn strategic thinking, forward thinking.

01:16:30.680 So chess is a bit rudimentary. I don't know if I would advocate for something like that,

01:16:34.560 but I do think a variety of games would be very, very good for kids. Uh, Pokemon cards,

01:16:40.940 excellent for children. Very, it's great. You have to plan ahead. You have to think about what

01:16:45.400 your opponent has in his cards and Pokemon's very popular. So it's a great opportunity to teach kids,

01:16:50.600 uh, about probabilities to teach them about strategic thinking. And again, forward thinking

01:16:56.560 schools are all the same. Sit down, read the book, do the homework, take the standardized test.

01:17:02.780 Yeah. It's, it's nonsense. It's not, it's not helping anybody become, uh, uh, a well-rounded

01:17:07.540 person. If this country took every child and started teaching, first of all, in this country,

01:17:16.440 we skip ages zero through five, which is psychotic. Those, those, those are the most important years

01:17:22.200 of a human being's life. And what do we do? Nothing. They just hang around with mom and they put

01:17:25.880 them in front of the iPad and they ignore them. Kids should be learning the moment they can learn

01:17:29.440 whatever they can learn. They should be, you know, teach them. A lot of people make the mistake of

01:17:35.460 thinking kids are stupid. They're not stupid. They're ignorant because it takes a long time to

01:17:39.640 learn and gather information and then connect the dots of the information, which is wisdom.

01:17:44.380 That means a child who is four years old is not stupid. You just have to give them that information.

01:17:51.060 And it's always remarkable to me when people say, say things like, well, they're too young to learn

01:17:55.000 that. I'm like, no, they're not there. It may take them a long time to figure things out,

01:17:59.180 but you have to start immediately with like a, B, C, D. You don't wait until they've experienced the

01:18:07.700 world. You got, so we skipped that. But I think if this country gave every kid in school, uh,

01:18:16.220 physical, like gym is, is nonsense. We need actual physical play dodgeball. So much fun that everybody

01:18:23.720 likes dodgeball. Some kids don't like it. You got to figure out what they do like. And you've,

01:18:27.140 and, and kids have to be given structure. So there, if there's a kid who's like, I don't want

01:18:30.920 to do it, but like, we're going to, you're going to do something. If you don't want to play the game,

01:18:34.160 let's get some jumping jacks, get some pushups and you make the kid do it. Not to the point where

01:18:38.320 the kids hurt or anything like that. You just, you have to understand kids don't know. And so you say,

01:18:44.520 you don't want to play dodgeball. Totally get it. It can be stressful for a lot of people.

01:18:48.240 Jumping jacks. Now let's do, um, I forgot a lot of these things are called make them run laps.

01:18:53.240 Yeah. And it's, it's like it to many of these liberals running laps sounds like punishment.

01:18:56.800 And I'm like, no, I haven't go for a run. Find out what they like. Are they an individualist?

01:19:00.660 Do they like skateboarding? Do they like martial arts? Do you like team sports? Find it. Then you

01:19:05.360 want strategic games. It's not just about to the point of physical exhaustion, mental exhaustion,

01:19:10.260 that kid that there should be an hour every day of kids doing physical activity and then doing

01:19:16.720 mental activity. Imagine what school would be like if you were like, all right, at noon,

01:19:21.160 we're all going to go out and play some sport. It's not going to be, go do whatever you want.

01:19:24.560 Resets. It's going to be literally, we're going to find games to play. Then when you're back,

01:19:29.340 it's Pokemon card time. Kids would be like, dude, so cool. Like, wow, they'd be so excited.

01:19:34.560 And then you got all the kids in the room learning strategy, forward thinking, and memory.

01:19:40.420 How many cards are in your deck? You can have four of each card. You've drawn two of that card.

01:19:45.980 You have two cards left. There's 50 cards left in your deck. What's the probability that card's

01:19:49.980 going to come up and you're going to win this turn? That's the stuff you learn when you're

01:19:52.940 playing games like this. Yeah. And you also learn the social aspects of it too. You can't go and

01:19:58.200 celebrate in front of everybody's faces. You have to be a gracious winner and loser. And to me,

01:20:04.340 just to piggyback on that, one thing I think is super valuable that we teach our youth is just

01:20:09.460 the practical knowledge, things like how to fix things around the house, how to get your hands dirty,

01:20:15.760 how to, um, like my kids, I'm, I'm, I really want to teach them how to be in touch with the land,

01:20:23.680 you know, to, to, to how to grow things, how to raise chickens and animals and things like that.

01:20:27.880 I mean, that's, that's so healthy. We used to do that. But you know, what's crazy is that, um,

01:20:33.440 the funny thing about sex ed is that it used to be decently simpler in that kids grew up on a farm.

01:20:40.240 Yeah, exactly. Oh, we've seen that happen. Right, right, right. Yeah. And, uh, parents

01:20:46.840 would protect their kids to a certain degree. And then eventually be like, you know,

01:20:50.320 the kids grow up, they generally understand this. And so it wasn't as

01:20:53.980 shocking to a kid to first hear when you're exposed to these animals. But think about how

01:20:59.880 crazy that is. Wasn't it up until I think like the early 1900s at the average, on average, a family

01:21:04.640 had one cow? Yeah. You had a cow, you had your family cow and you got milk. And then you'd be

01:21:10.820 like, who's got a bull? And then they'd come and the bull would sire your cow. And then you'd get

01:21:14.640 milk and then you get another cow. And then you could, you have two cows now and the cow just eats

01:21:18.680 the grass. Yeah. I mean, and there's so many benefits there. One typically, you know, from my

01:21:25.260 understanding of, of our, our culture in like the 1800s, where everybody was doing a little bit of

01:21:31.340 farming and homesteading, it forced community because not everybody could have the full on

01:21:35.880 thing. So you were borrowing, you were borrowing goats to make, you know, and so it creates

01:21:39.900 community for kids there. They have some responsibility that's meaningful, you know,

01:21:44.880 like a cow, that's a life that, that you're responsible for. And kids can play a role in

01:21:49.940 that to go milk it, to, you know, to pick up the eggs, to, to, and there's, and you're just in

01:21:55.720 touch with nature and touch with reality. And, um, it's so, it's, it's a, it's a great way to

01:22:03.300 learn. Just getting your hands dirty. I wonder if we should also have at a certain age, you know,

01:22:08.040 that they do that thing where they give the kid an egg and it's like protect your egg for a week.

01:22:11.820 Oh yeah. I did that in a health. Yeah. I think they should actually be like, we're going to

01:22:15.980 incubate an egg and you're going to have a chick. Oh my God. And guess what? Sadly, some chicks may die.

01:22:22.860 We had a baby chick just die. Nothing we could have done about it. We are very good to our

01:22:26.640 chickens. They have, these are, these are chickens. These are 1% of chickens. This is a 0.1. These

01:22:31.260 chickens are like the billionaires of the chicken world. Chicken city, gated walls, automatic door.

01:22:36.700 There's nothing more you could do today. People can watch them online. It's a show that the food

01:22:41.720 comes down. But so we had these babies, uh, that we hatched and one died. The, uh, Cochin, we have

01:22:47.820 chicken. It's a fluffy, short little chicken brooded and hatched, I think two eggs and they're

01:22:56.400 not her babies, but she did it anyway. Cause she had the eggs and then she hatched them. And now

01:23:00.640 there's two little babies running around. It's great. And, um, then the silkies had four babies,

01:23:04.880 three of them died. We let the silkies do their thing. They hatched some babies. The babies were born

01:23:11.980 and then three of them, three of them ended up dying. That was entirely on the chickens.

01:23:17.020 You have kids raise some chicks, some will die. And then I think, you know, you do if the chick

01:23:21.780 dies, you incubate and raise another one. The teach these kids, the responsibility of protecting life

01:23:28.440 of, of what you need to protect that life. And I imagine this for one, obviously I love chickens

01:23:34.800 because they're hilarious. They're so funny. They're just goofy little, they're, they're great pets

01:23:38.820 and they give you eggs, but you have a kid who hatches their own baby chick. It's theirs.

01:23:46.020 There's an emotional attachment to it as there should be. You got to get food. Baby chick needs

01:23:52.020 water and food. If you don't get it to them, they're going to die. Where do you get it?

01:23:56.340 Then you attach that to some kind of responsibility with the school or whatever program the kid is

01:24:02.000 doing. We're not just going to give you the food and you need the food. Like upon completing this

01:24:06.420 test, we will. Obviously there's, you know, you have to have some kind of emergency fail safe.

01:24:10.980 We're not going to let the baby chick starve, but you've got to be like, you, you can't just have

01:24:14.700 free food. And they're going to say, but my chick is hungry. It's crying and be like,

01:24:18.240 take the test, finish it. I'll give you the, or sweep the floor. I'll give you the food.

01:24:23.480 My daughter's school has a 4-H program that does this. It's middle school. Yep. Middle school. So

01:24:28.020 her best friend, uh, all year raised a pig and every day her and every morning and every night,

01:24:35.580 her mom would have to bring her to the place where the pig was because the pig was the pig stays on

01:24:40.440 its farm, but it's the daughter's responsibility. The daughter would go every day, feed the pig,

01:24:44.540 uh, twice a day, every day. And that was like, it was such a responsibility because I mean,

01:24:49.140 they really couldn't not do it. You know, the, the pig would suffer. Um, so, so at the end of this

01:24:54.980 year where she took care of the pig, she had to bring it to the fair and sell it to be a meat pig.

01:24:59.900 No, she named it. I mean, it was everything, but so they do that. They also though, do it with

01:25:05.200 rabbits and chickens where you don't have to have to do that. You know, like you actually get to keep

01:25:10.700 the rabbits and the chickens that she raised at the end of the year.

01:25:13.060 Rabbits are hard to keep as pets. Yes. Yes. But those are, so she's going to be getting into this 4-H,

01:25:18.460 um, in eighth grade, which is what she's going into. And she's going to do it too. We're not doing a pig,

01:25:22.760 but I was thinking of doing chickens. Chickens are good.

01:25:24.980 What's funny is every rural conservative who's listened to this is laughing. They're like,

01:25:30.520 what do you mean? Have them learn how to raise chickens in school. The kids have already raised

01:25:33.240 500 chickens at our, in our backyard as it is. We're on like, you know, or, or we've got 12

01:25:38.140 chickens already and we've already incubated for this year. Kids who live on the country,

01:25:43.100 you don't need to teach them that they learned it already. I, I, I genuinely think the problem that

01:25:47.360 we have right now is cities have become plague infested garbage holes and the policies of these,

01:25:55.620 these, these politicians, whether intentional or not, are destroying them. Um, Democrats and, uh,

01:26:01.640 it's unfortunate, but I don't, I don't know what there is to be done.

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01:27:33.140 I mean, the way a human being should live is more reflected in conservative rural lifestyles than it

01:27:41.360 is in urban environments. We're not meant to live in clouds of brake dust. You know,

01:27:46.880 Ian brings up all the time, inhaling all this garbage and brake dust and dirt and grime and oil

01:27:52.060 and chemicals. You can't produce food in a city.

01:27:55.460 Yeah.

01:27:55.960 And think about like-

01:27:56.660 Maybe garden on your roof if you're wealthy enough to have a roof access.

01:27:59.860 Yeah. And these kids don't touch grass ever.

01:28:04.080 They're not grounded.

01:28:04.660 It's a concrete jungle. There's no grass to touch. And this is so, so important. Like,

01:28:12.100 I mean, it's like, I guess I was, I was raised in like a rural area. So I had like huge, like

01:28:16.960 acre yard and I was grass. I was like an outdoor kid, you know, but, and my kids are also outdoor

01:28:22.520 kids. It was such a blessing to be able to have that. But I mean, even as an adult, I go outside

01:28:27.820 to take my shoes off. I touch grass and it's just like, you're just rooted in it.

01:28:33.040 Yeah. You were touching on something in the beginning where you were saying that this trans

01:28:38.000 movement may have something to do with our endocrine system.

01:28:40.400 Yeah.

01:28:40.760 Would you mind talking more about that? I mean, because-

01:28:43.660 The plastics and stuff.

01:28:44.500 Yeah. I know our testosterone levels are dropping.

01:28:46.480 Oh yeah. I think it's plastics. We had James Lindsay on, Tim Castirel, and he said,

01:28:51.080 there's such a thing as a trans kid. And I said, I disagree. Clearly, you know, however you

01:28:54.980 want to define it, there are kids who are experiencing gender dysphoria.

01:28:57.820 Or social, rapid onset, gender dysphoria, social, whatever. There are people, I think

01:29:03.560 Blair White was asked, when did she know she was trans? And she said, she was a very, very

01:29:09.400 little kid, you know, and it was just apparent to her. And, you know, that gets me thinking

01:29:15.040 about, obviously, there are social pressures. I think that is a very large component of this,

01:29:19.900 especially among young girls who are looking for likes and social validation more so than

01:29:23.820 boys may be. But, you know, both boys and girls seek social validation. I think girls just

01:29:27.420 a little bit more than boys. What we do know, and we've known for a long time, because I've been

01:29:31.200 reading about this since I was a teenager, birth controls in the drinking water in cities.

01:29:35.300 It gets through the filtration systems. And it's in the water in trace amounts or something like

01:29:39.880 that. We know that phthalates, PCBs, which is poly...

01:29:45.160 Polycarbonates.

01:29:48.160 Polychloral biphenols or something like that. I don't know.

01:29:50.040 But what it is, are you sure? Serge is saying I'm right. I'm like, okay, I don't know. It's like...

01:29:55.940 Thanks, Serge.

01:29:56.760 Yeah, I know about phthalates. When did plastics start becoming ubiquitous?

01:30:01.980 Into the 60s, into the 70s, we started seeing more and more plastic products.

01:30:05.180 I went to an antique store, and it's all the stuff from the 50s is metal and glass.

01:30:09.280 You're not getting these chemicals into your system. Here's what I see happening.

01:30:13.760 With the expansion of plastics in every facet of life, everything we drink, everything we eat is

01:30:19.380 wrapped in it. We know that endocrine disruptors, chemicals, are leaching into our foods.

01:30:24.320 Enter the 80s, you get the parents, the boomers of the millennial generation.

01:30:30.760 The first generation to have subsisted off of plastic entrenched products are now getting

01:30:35.800 pregnant and consuming foods laced with endocrine disruptors.

01:30:41.540 Brings you to the millennial generation.

01:30:43.760 You see this uptick in LGBTQ and trans and these things.

01:30:48.580 Then you get Gen Xers.

01:30:51.440 They're having kids, which is Gen Z.

01:30:53.420 There's an overlap. I know it's a wave. It's not analog.

01:30:56.440 But you'll get between the baby boomers and the Gen Xers, Gen Z, which is absolute saturation

01:31:04.560 of these endocrine disrupting chemicals in our food supply, in our water.

01:31:09.180 And now you see Gen Z being very heavily LGBTQ or whatever.

01:31:13.360 Many on the right and the culture war right, but also disaffected liberals immediately say social.

01:31:22.720 And I say probably a large component, but we've known endocrine disruptors do this for decades.

01:31:29.200 We have known, there are studies, you can read, that says certain birth control was masculinizing female fetuses.

01:31:38.580 And they found that women who took a certain birth control who had daughters had like an eight times higher chance of that daughter being a lesbian.

01:31:46.740 The introduction of that birth control is new.

01:31:50.780 It just happened.

01:31:51.760 So we have to reconcile with that fact that endocrine disruptors likely are.

01:31:56.560 I mean, look, we've got, I'm looking right now at our stock bar.

01:31:59.820 Everything's plastic.

01:32:00.960 Granted, the booze is all glass bottles.

01:32:03.080 We get the good stuff.

01:32:04.040 But we've got honey sticks, plastic tubes, candy wrappers, plastic wrappers, vitamins, plastic bottles.

01:32:09.860 All that stuff leaches in.

01:32:12.000 Yeah.

01:32:12.240 And then that has an impact on fetal development.

01:32:17.100 So why is the testosterone is dropping?

01:32:20.080 This is probably a huge component of it.

01:32:22.200 It can't just be that all of a sudden humans started to evolve to not have testosterone.

01:32:27.000 Right.

01:32:27.660 The Try Guys, the famous BuzzFeed video from 10 years ago or however long it was, where these four guys get their T levels checked and they have the testosterone of 80 year old men.

01:32:36.380 Shocking.

01:32:37.120 Yeah.

01:32:37.380 It's a combination of, in my opinion, endocrine disruptors, but also there is a social component.

01:32:42.800 Screens and just being in a state.

01:32:44.380 Not exercising, not eating meat.

01:32:46.860 Testosterone is heavily tied to fat consumption and exercise.

01:32:50.400 So if you're eating a lot of fat, you're eating a lot of protein and working out, your body is more testosterone.

01:32:56.100 That plays a role too.

01:32:57.660 So social elements there for sure.

01:32:59.800 Guys who want social validation aren't getting it so much from being ripped and being strong.

01:33:04.500 That still does exist, but it's now from weird social behaviors.

01:33:07.980 We have social media behaviors.

01:33:10.800 We now have, you know, hey, you can be famous and successful if you prance around and shake your butt and do kink stuff and drag stuff.

01:33:18.040 So obviously there are guys who are seeking validation in that direction.

01:33:21.060 But I do believe a large component comes from chemical saturation in the food products that we consume and big pharma.

01:33:30.500 Can endocrine disruptors, like disruption be undone?

01:33:34.280 Or is it like, nope, you're permanently.

01:33:36.000 It may be permanent.

01:33:37.000 Yeah.

01:33:37.480 So that's.

01:33:37.920 But we can reverse that trend by.

01:33:39.580 So you'll notice that all the waters that we have.

01:33:41.840 Glass bottles.

01:33:42.340 Glass bottles.

01:33:43.140 We do have plastic bottles.

01:33:44.660 Don't get me wrong.

01:33:45.260 We have because we.

01:33:46.860 But I always tell people, like when it comes to the water in this studio and the stuff that I drink filtered, it's double nine stage filtered glass bottles.

01:33:55.840 I love it.

01:33:56.620 I am interrupting my endocrine as we speak with my smart water.

01:34:01.160 It's not absolute.

01:34:02.200 I don't.

01:34:02.600 I think it's subtle.

01:34:03.720 I think what we're looking at is not that plastic is guaranteed to make a child trans.

01:34:07.720 It's that if you have 100 million human beings born and the endocrine disruption rate is 0.02, you're going to get some.

01:34:15.240 You're going to have tens of thousands.

01:34:16.640 Yeah.

01:34:16.800 Well, I mean, 0.02, you're looking at hundreds of thousands of people who are going to be gender non-binary or something like that or be atypical in their sexual development.

01:34:26.000 You know what's weird about the cross between like liberals and conservatives?

01:34:29.120 Liberals used to be the earthy, crunchy, like stay away from the chemicals, GMOs.

01:34:32.920 And now they're like, inject me with this, this, you know, like it's, it's incredible.

01:34:38.080 Big farm of me, daddy.

01:34:38.920 Exactly.

01:34:39.300 And then you get, then you get conservatives and libertarians and they have chicken farms and they source their own meat.

01:34:44.880 But they've always hit chicken farms.

01:34:45.440 Yeah.

01:34:45.780 But I'll just say they, they, they do all these things that otherwise, that, that are more organic, I guess.

01:34:50.720 It is crazy to me.

01:34:51.960 You know, you look at the conservatives of 10 or 15 years ago and there's a big difference.

01:34:56.540 They were much more industrialist and you had a lot of leftist hippies.

01:35:01.500 The liberals were very capitalist too.

01:35:03.320 Don't get me wrong.

01:35:03.860 The Democrats, of course, they were just, you know, I don't know.

01:35:07.540 They, they, they, they still do feign that environmental stuff, but it's fascinating that in the past few years you get, it's, it used to be the hippie, hippie leftists who were anti-vaxxers.

01:35:16.980 Yes, exactly.

01:35:17.780 And they were like, I don't know, but let's took me in, you know, now, now it's like conservative MAGA hat wearing rural people being like, I don't trust big pharma.

01:35:23.820 You know, but, but I do think the, the reason that is, is because Trump ignited a large portion of the country who didn't normally vote.

01:35:32.280 And these are regular salt of the earth people and working class people so that they don't trust these big companies.

01:35:38.460 And especially when it comes to, to big pharma, the opioid crisis devastated West Virginia and many of these, these, these, these communities.

01:35:47.540 So they're not trusting of it.

01:35:49.860 The, this is why I was, I was on Twitter the other day.

01:35:51.860 I called Tom Morello a fascist.

01:35:53.820 Because fascist means bad guy.

01:35:56.700 The left will call you or anyone else a fascist.

01:35:59.480 It's meaningless.

01:36:00.880 But Tom Morello posted this meme where he was like, in Germany, they say, if nine, if nine Nazis are sitting at a table and one person who's not a Nazi is there, you have 10 Nazis or whatever.

01:36:08.560 And I'm like, oh, so he's a fascist because he's associated with corporatists and authoritarians.

01:36:13.880 He's promoted massive government control and, and no bid, no liability contracts for major multinational corporations.

01:36:20.400 So if we're going the, the lucrative merger of corporation and state fascist route, that's him.

01:36:26.060 And then I get these lefties being like, you're wrong.

01:36:27.560 Fascism isn't that.

01:36:28.280 I'm like, I don't care what you say, dude.

01:36:29.820 You're, you're, I've seen what makes you cheer.

01:36:31.260 I get called fascist all the time for being a libertarian, which just.

01:36:33.860 It's nonsense.

01:36:34.360 So I just say, look, if you can call anybody a fascist and it just means bad guy, Tom Morello is certainly that.

01:36:40.940 But we're talking about a guy who was in, who, who, who started a band called Rage Against the Machine.

01:36:45.820 And I love the mindless cult like mentality of liberals in that I criticize Tom Morello.

01:36:51.560 And the response I get is, it's funny how conservatives don't know what these songs are about.

01:36:55.700 It's like, dude, I can play those songs on the guitar.

01:36:58.900 I grew up, I know what he's saying when he's saying killing in the name of, and when he calls the police, the chosen whites.

01:37:05.400 I know all about that.

01:37:07.080 That's why I grew up punk rock and traditionally liberal.

01:37:10.840 And actually for a while, very far left because I'm like, racism is bad.

01:37:14.840 But here's the thing, when I say racism is bad and then y'all come out and create POC rooms and non-POC room, I'm like, you are exactly what I was talking about when I said racism was bad.

01:37:27.580 So when you come out and you say some of those that run forces are the same that burn crosses, and I'm like, yep, I know all about that.

01:37:34.920 And then when I say we want to end racial prejudice and segregation, and you bring out Derek Bell, who writes a book that says discrimination is a good thing.

01:37:43.280 That's what he claims.

01:37:44.240 I'm like, y'all are the bad guys.

01:37:49.260 Here's the problem for conservatives and people in the culture war right.

01:37:53.900 They assume that when the left said racism is bad, there was an agreement we should not, that we should, they thought the agreement was, I have a dream that one day my four little children will be judged based on the content of the character, not the color of their skin.

01:38:07.960 No, this is a mistake.

01:38:09.620 I learned this the hard way.

01:38:10.580 I know a lefty guy.

01:38:13.020 He told me because we were, we had, you know, associated with each other back during Occupy.

01:38:18.700 I was like, what happened, man?

01:38:19.940 Used to support free speech.

01:38:21.180 And he goes, no, no, you misunderstand.

01:38:22.740 We knew that you did and we exploited you because we wanted to shift the narrative in our direction.

01:38:29.220 So if you were attacking the establishment, we were on your side.

01:38:32.360 Now that the step we have gained establishment power, you are threatening our control.

01:38:36.900 So when the left said we oppose racism, what they were really talking about was structures of Judeo-Christian moral framework and values.

01:38:45.040 And now that that's starting to erode, those of us that were actually talking about people disparaging others based on race are seeing that.

01:38:53.700 They're saying, no, no, no, the left does want to segregate based on race.

01:38:56.780 They were using us and those of us that believed in true meritocracy, individuality, who believe that all people are created equal.

01:39:04.460 Those were lies.

01:39:05.180 They didn't really believe that.

01:39:06.380 They just saw us as a means to an end to subvert the system so they can act their version of it.

01:39:11.660 Yeah.

01:39:12.420 They, that's why they changed the definitions.

01:39:14.180 That's why.

01:39:14.960 So, you know.

01:39:16.220 Well, I've got a question for you.

01:39:19.100 Sure.

01:39:19.240 So we started off talking a little bit about the Target stuff.

01:39:23.760 I, so when I saw the Bud Light thing, my assumption, well, one, it was super cool to see the Christian conservatives boycott and really hurt, you know, their pocketbooks.

01:39:34.800 And I was like, okay, this is, this is the path.

01:39:36.860 And then I see Target and Ford just sort of voluntarily step in front of the conservative shooting squad.

01:39:46.380 And, but, so that just, that blew my mind because they had to know what was going to happen, but they did it anyway.

01:39:54.000 And then I saw a thread, I didn't finish all of it as long, but it was really good where you were talking about ESG scores.

01:40:01.640 And, and I was like, is there like a second form of currency that's starting to be developed in, in the way of like social, social, social scores?

01:40:10.420 Yeah, the woke credit score.

01:40:11.360 Yeah.

01:40:11.680 So, so I, my thought about this, as you explained it to me is, so Bud Light's getting all the flack, right?

01:40:17.660 So, so they all have, as I wrote in that thread, they all have to meet these demands by the, um, the.

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01:41:53.200 The HRC who sends these lobbyists out with these demands that you need to meet these demands.

01:41:58.240 Or, you know, we're going to take your funding.

01:42:00.420 We're going to take your advertisers.

01:42:01.940 Like, nobody's going to do business with you.

01:42:03.640 We're going to penalize anybody who works with you.

01:42:06.200 Right?

01:42:06.800 So Bud Light is getting all the flack from this.

01:42:09.020 Because this is, they have to do it.

01:42:10.380 They have to abide by that or they don't exist.

01:42:12.380 Right?

01:42:12.580 But then at the same time, they abide by it and they lose their customers and they don't exist.

01:42:17.640 Right?

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01:42:18.120 So there's just no winning.

01:42:19.280 But they're trying to comply to hope that maybe they'll survive.

01:42:22.760 So I think as Bud Light is in the public getting all of this flack, Ford and Target are like,

01:42:27.260 okay, I think now's a good time.

01:42:28.720 Now's a good time to jump out there.

01:42:30.120 Because like the attention is on Bud Light.

01:42:32.300 But that's not how it works.

01:42:33.380 Everybody pays attention to everything.

01:42:34.700 And as Tim had said last night on IRL, he pulled up the stocks.

01:42:39.840 Right?

01:42:40.280 So Bud Light or Budweiser, Anheuser-Busch.

01:42:43.800 Right?

01:42:44.240 Yeah.

01:42:44.460 So Anheuser-Busch, their stock going and then the Dylan Mulvaney stuff happens.

01:42:48.800 And it drops a little, but then it goes back up.

01:42:50.860 Because as Tim said, he's like, okay, well, these people are thinking we're going to buy

01:42:55.400 at the dip because boycotts don't work.

01:42:57.000 Right?

01:42:57.560 And then they keep going and Anheuser-Busch keeps pushing it and pushing it.

01:43:01.860 And then it just plummets.

01:43:02.880 Right?

01:43:03.060 Target, that didn't happen.

01:43:06.080 They just dropped off.

01:43:07.300 There was no buy the dip at all because they realized perhaps boycotts work now.

01:43:13.280 So it's interesting.

01:43:14.280 We're kind of in uncharged waters with that.

01:43:15.980 But what's the motivation for Target and Ford?

01:43:21.200 For them to come out at that time or for them to be doing this?

01:43:23.460 So are they hoping to please the big banks for future access to like cheap debt or something?

01:43:30.820 I think that they were, while all the attention was on Budweiser, I think they were hoping

01:43:35.540 that they could come out and meet their demands while everybody was distracted by Bud Light and

01:43:41.540 they could come out and have this woke agenda while the attention was on Bud Light because everybody has to do it.

01:43:54.180 All the big corporations that identify as American have to do it.

01:43:57.860 I think while that HRC stuff and ESG, all that stuff does play a big role in this, access to capital is tied to ESG and things like that.

01:44:06.600 I really do think it's just people have mentioned Target's been doing the pride display for a long time, like 10 years or whatever.

01:44:12.000 I think it was the tucking stuff that got people and the baby outfits with the pride stuff.

01:44:18.380 But it's become socially normal.

01:44:20.220 And every year, every pride month, what I think happens is you have institutional capture where woke ideology is intentionally pushing this.

01:44:29.680 And this, the problem is that I think the right doesn't shock the system.

01:44:35.340 So what happens is right now you have these policies in businesses, like we were reading about Dallas doing this.

01:44:41.460 The government says you have to use someone's pronouns in New York state.

01:44:45.240 I believe state.

01:44:46.320 I know for, well, let's just say city because I know for a fact I've read the city human rights code.

01:44:49.820 You must use someone's pronouns.

01:44:51.740 But pronouns are only used typically when someone's not near you.

01:44:55.260 Like when I'm talking to you, I don't say he, he would, he would like, like what?

01:45:00.720 I'm right here, dude.

01:45:01.960 But when you're not around, I would say, oh, Trent was over.

01:45:04.320 He was saying X to use someone's pronouns is to talk.

01:45:07.500 It's only when they're not around.

01:45:08.520 It makes no sense.

01:45:09.660 Now it's possible you could be near me and I can, you can say something like, hey, are there any staplers?

01:45:15.420 And then I can go, oh, hey, Josie, do you have a stapler?

01:45:17.600 Trent was asking for it.

01:45:18.700 He's looking for, he's trying to finish a paper, some paperwork.

01:45:21.500 You might be an earshot of it.

01:45:22.580 But typically when someone's talking about you.

01:45:24.020 What happens is people don't experience the pronoun thing all that often.

01:45:29.500 They may experience a person who's non-binary or whatever, and they're told to say she, her, or whatever, or they, them.

01:45:34.680 And they go, okay, whatever, it doesn't really affect me.

01:45:37.620 But where this goes is increasingly more extreme.

01:45:41.780 What is happening is that our culture is being shifted incrementally in ways that are not seemingly unreasonable.

01:45:50.260 And while there are conservatives who are like, it is unreasonable, I will not use your pronouns, most people are like, I don't want the conflict.

01:45:58.940 So the conservatives need to introduce it to them.

01:46:01.440 Instead of saying something like, I'm not using your pronoun, what happens is, we'll put it this way.

01:46:09.420 You'll have a jury.

01:46:11.280 And it will be maybe the guy committed the crime.

01:46:16.220 Let's just get out of here.

01:46:18.100 The jury room, they say, look, it seems like he's guilty.

01:46:21.380 Can we all just say guilty and go home?

01:46:22.820 And one guy goes, no.

01:46:23.880 And they say, look, just say he's guilty.

01:46:25.780 Social pressure.

01:46:26.720 Just do it.

01:46:27.440 It's easier.

01:46:29.040 I remember when I was a kid, we were hanging out at this, there's like a construction site off of this main busy road.

01:46:35.540 And we were skating around.

01:46:37.180 And some guy walks up to me and my friends.

01:46:39.840 He's got a walkie-talkie.

01:46:40.920 And he goes, turn around, hands against the car now.

01:46:43.140 And I was like, who are you?

01:46:44.640 And then my friends go, shut up, just do it.

01:46:45.940 Just do it.

01:46:46.880 And I'm like, what?

01:46:47.600 Who's this guy?

01:46:48.340 And he goes, don't back, don't back talk.

01:46:50.120 Hands against the car now.

01:46:51.400 And they both look at me and go, Tim, do it.

01:46:53.780 And I'm like, fine.

01:46:55.000 And then the guy starts laughing.

01:46:55.940 He goes, you guys are idiots.

01:46:56.900 He was a construction worker.

01:46:58.000 He wasn't a cop.

01:46:59.020 So what happens is people fearing conflict will say, let me just give in.

01:47:03.760 They don't want to resist.

01:47:05.360 Okay.

01:47:06.840 Let's, if you want to play the game, we'll play the game.

01:47:09.220 If you are a conservative, a disaffected liberal, libertarian, anti-woke, whatever,

01:47:13.740 and you're in a workplace where they've mandated this stuff through DEI,

01:47:16.740 tell the DEI instructor during your training that your pronouns are glob-glob-adon.

01:47:21.980 And they'll say, what was that?

01:47:23.100 Glob-glob-adon-glob-adon self.

01:47:25.280 It makes me feel good.

01:47:27.200 And here's the reality.

01:47:29.040 You know it'll make you feel good to say it, right?

01:47:31.820 It's asserting yourself.

01:47:33.600 And if they ask you, why do you want those pronouns?

01:47:35.520 You say, it makes me feel like I matter.

01:47:38.380 It makes me feel like you will respect what I'm asking of you.

01:47:41.220 And that's a true statement.

01:47:43.040 When you're at work and they're telling you you have to do something, you say,

01:47:45.300 okay, then I want you to do it too.

01:47:47.200 Don't disrespect me.

01:47:48.280 It makes me feel bad.

01:47:49.180 Now, all of a sudden, you're going to have coworkers being like,

01:47:52.080 glob-glob-adon self?

01:47:53.320 I can't remember that.

01:47:54.160 I'm not saying that.

01:47:55.260 And then you can be like, you will be fired unless you do.

01:47:58.940 Shock the framework.

01:48:00.040 If you let them slowly push everybody, what's going to happen is you're going to be like,

01:48:06.280 I don't want to say Z.

01:48:07.200 And they'll be like, just say it so we can go home.

01:48:09.640 I don't want to waste time here.

01:48:12.160 Okay.

01:48:13.100 Make it hard for them to do that.

01:48:15.600 Make your coworkers say, you know what?

01:48:17.440 This new pronoun policy is insane.

01:48:19.080 I can't remember glob-a-dib-a-dib-adon.

01:48:21.100 I don't know it.

01:48:22.020 My pronouns are tunin-an-ashab-a-depressure and bad-a-calf care.

01:48:25.140 And next, they'll rest itself.

01:48:26.820 And if they say, those are not real pronouns, but like, yes, they are.

01:48:30.820 They make me feel valid.

01:48:32.760 When you say that, it makes me feel like I actually have some control in my life.

01:48:38.580 True statement.

01:48:40.000 If they're coming to you and trying to take the power from you to force you to say something

01:48:42.920 you don't want, tell them you want them to say something they don't want.

01:48:47.420 Use, to the truest extent, their own policies.

01:48:50.420 But here's what happens.

01:48:51.040 As I stated, the average person will say, just say she, her, they, them, he, her.

01:48:56.900 It's not that hard.

01:48:58.180 We don't want to be fighting about it.

01:49:00.440 We just want to go home.

01:49:01.940 Uh-oh.

01:49:02.560 I can't remember.

01:49:03.520 Next, no rest itself.

01:49:05.540 Practice.

01:49:06.440 No, that's too much work for me.

01:49:07.900 Make it more difficult to engage in the policy than it is to just go along with it.

01:49:15.400 And then you'll get regular people protesting and complaining and saying, I, you can't punish

01:49:21.840 me for this.

01:49:22.440 I don't understand what's happening.

01:49:25.000 Yeah.

01:49:25.480 Only way to do it.

01:49:27.140 So that's interesting that the city of New York has that because that's compelled speech

01:49:31.020 to force somebody to say something.

01:49:32.840 That's right.

01:49:32.860 And it's compelled speech.

01:49:33.660 So it's, so it's the city of New York.

01:49:35.460 So that's a government.

01:49:36.420 That's a local government saying you were compelling your speech and you need to abide by it.

01:49:40.700 Tell them your pronoun is, uh, something they don't want to say, you know, like I say globity

01:49:49.660 be down or whatever.

01:49:50.340 It's like, no, say it's, you know, give them, give them something like that.

01:49:54.900 They're going to be like, Ooh, master, your majesty, my liege.

01:50:01.020 It's spelled M I L E E J. It's like, I'm not going to call you my liege.

01:50:05.880 Be like, you just, you have to, yes, my pronoun.

01:50:09.280 No, you're, you're confusing the English words, my and liege with my liege.

01:50:15.740 M I L E E J. My liege.

01:50:18.020 Just say it.

01:50:18.900 You have to.

01:50:19.980 And then they're going to be uncomfortable.

01:50:21.420 But I am not calling you that.

01:50:23.220 Imagine you have somebody.

01:50:24.260 Oh, here's a good one for you guys.

01:50:26.000 You work with someone you don't like, right?

01:50:28.220 You're in an office and like old, old catty Deborah.

01:50:31.980 Tell her from now on, she has to call you your majesty or my liege.

01:50:35.660 My liege is good, Lord.

01:50:37.000 And she's going to be like, I am not calling you that.

01:50:40.360 And be like, I'll go to HR right now and say, you won't use my pronouns.

01:50:43.880 From now in New York, you can have any name you want.

01:50:47.880 Regardless of what's on your ID, it is protected.

01:50:50.800 Tell them your name is Lord, Lord, John King.

01:50:56.680 Call me King.

01:50:57.760 That's my name now.

01:50:58.660 And they'll say, no.

01:50:59.280 Like, if you don't, I will report you for not respecting my gender identity.

01:51:03.560 And when they say, then do it.

01:51:04.660 Say, okay.

01:51:05.640 And you don't got to be specific.

01:51:06.680 You go to HR and say, I told them my pronouns and they yelled at me.

01:51:09.120 And they told me no.

01:51:10.060 And they insulted me.

01:51:10.920 And if it happens again, I will sue you.

01:51:12.420 And they will freak out.

01:51:13.920 And they'll go to the person and say, I don't care what the pronouns are.

01:51:16.300 He was saying King.

01:51:17.140 And so I don't care.

01:51:18.780 It is policy.

01:51:19.680 You have to do it.

01:51:20.320 It is the law.

01:51:22.660 And then the person you absolutely don't like working with, who is mean and rude to you,

01:51:26.000 is going, here are your documents, King.

01:51:28.800 And you go, thank you, servant.

01:51:31.880 Yeah.

01:51:32.040 And then I guess the strategy is ultimately, if everybody did that, they'd have to just

01:51:36.120 get rid of the policy.

01:51:36.940 Yep.

01:51:37.380 Because then that person will be like, then you got to call me King.

01:51:39.580 And they'll be like, okay.

01:51:40.840 Yeah.

01:51:42.080 Yeah.

01:51:42.420 Exactly.

01:51:42.660 And then one up and say, oh, okay.

01:51:45.460 Then I'm Lord and Master.

01:51:47.380 Now you got to call me Lord and Master.

01:51:48.720 And they're like, I was calling you King.

01:51:50.120 I am not going to, you want to play the game?

01:51:51.700 We'll play the game.

01:51:53.000 My liege.

01:51:54.540 So why, why are things so crazy?

01:51:59.700 Like what?

01:52:00.480 Cultural decay.

01:52:01.760 That's what you think it is?

01:52:03.740 You know, for whatever reason, over a long enough period of time, people squander what they

01:52:11.460 were, what they inherited.

01:52:13.000 The founding fathers had it pretty difficult.

01:52:16.200 And the revolutionary period was over 20 years.

01:52:18.740 It's remarkable that people don't understand that the American war for independence was

01:52:22.620 not like, we declare independence and then like, we go to war.

01:52:25.800 Like 1776 done.

01:52:27.200 No, it lasted for years.

01:52:28.640 It was 20 years.

01:52:29.260 Before 1776.

01:52:30.540 Oh yeah.

01:52:30.840 Oh yeah.

01:52:31.140 There was the Boston Tea Party.

01:52:32.340 The Boston Massacre was 1770.

01:52:34.660 Right.

01:52:35.080 Yep.

01:52:35.460 Yep.

01:52:35.640 They had the TX.

01:52:36.720 The Tea Party was what?

01:52:38.720 What, uh, what, what, what, the, the, the, the tea party, tea party, right.

01:52:42.040 It was three years after the massacre.

01:52:43.940 Yeah.

01:52:44.520 Yep.

01:52:44.680 Three years.

01:52:46.020 Exactly.

01:52:46.580 The, the revolutionary period began, uh, like stamp back the tea act in the 1760s.

01:52:51.960 That means a new, uh, it was, there were people born in the revolutionary period while all

01:52:58.300 this was going on who then fought the war for independence.

01:53:00.900 Mm-hmm.

01:53:01.580 These people born into a world where an oppressive force was targeting them, was stealing from

01:53:08.420 them, and they lived that.

01:53:10.660 And then they said, when they said, we declare independence, they said, I am ready to fight

01:53:14.400 for this new nation.

01:53:16.320 They gifted what they had fought for to their children, who then gifted that country to their

01:53:23.580 children.

01:53:25.520 And then some of them gifted it to another generation, but around that period, you get

01:53:30.000 a civil war 80 years later.

01:53:32.220 So this is maybe three generations on and they had to fight to preserve.

01:53:37.940 You see, they squandered to a certain degree and fought over and then had to fight again.

01:53:44.340 Then you get world war one and world war two straws out generational theory.

01:53:49.140 We are now in a period of this country where nobody's fought for anything.

01:53:55.180 Yeah.

01:53:55.740 Self-entitled, narcissistic, lazy.

01:53:59.820 I'm not saying every millennial.

01:54:01.640 I'm not saying every Gen Z-er.

01:54:03.900 I'm saying more and more we are seeing the emergence of narcissistic entitlement.

01:54:09.420 People who demand without doing the work.

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01:55:36.860 And of course, if people don't do work, things don't exist.

01:55:43.120 And I think a lot of them are just, they want to be a part of something big.

01:55:47.440 Like our generation was 9-11.

01:55:50.180 That was our something big.

01:55:51.380 That was something that united us all.

01:55:53.140 That was something we could all get behind.

01:55:55.140 Something that we all thought we were going to fight for justice.

01:56:00.880 Like, you know, we're kind of like, we're figuring it out because like we were kids at

01:56:04.300 the time, like both of us were high school aged.

01:56:07.040 So, so, so that was like our thing.

01:56:10.100 But now we're 20, 25 years away from it, you know, 23 years away from it.

01:56:14.520 And we have a generation of kids who don't have that.

01:56:16.720 So it's like everything that happens has to be their thing.

01:56:20.680 It's like, oh my God, Me Too movement.

01:56:22.320 That's our thing.

01:56:23.220 Black Lives Matter.

01:56:24.020 That's our thing.

01:56:24.960 No purpose.

01:56:25.560 But also they're narcissists.

01:56:27.380 Yes.

01:56:27.760 Not all of them.

01:56:28.500 There's a lot of them.

01:56:29.240 There's a lot of them.

01:56:30.280 Yeah.

01:56:30.420 There was that study about the left wing and narcissistic personalities.

01:56:33.380 This work is beneath me.

01:56:34.160 I should be famous.

01:56:35.740 The demand for fame is terrifying.

01:56:38.400 Or they think that they, they don't see the value in work in and of itself.

01:56:41.980 They think that work has to be activism, you know, and, and, and, and because they think

01:56:47.580 that that's their purpose.

01:56:48.640 That's where they're going to get fulfillment.

01:56:50.220 And they don't realize that that's not going to work, you know, that fulfillment comes

01:56:55.040 from relationship with your creator.

01:56:56.640 Well, you look at some of the, the, like, the communists.

01:56:58.900 Exactly.

01:56:59.280 You look at some of the communists and they're like, you know, what's your job going to be

01:57:02.420 after the revolution?

01:57:03.220 I'm going to run a farm.

01:57:04.180 It's like, you sleep till noon.

01:57:05.440 You have no idea about running a farm, you know, because they've, they've just been activists

01:57:08.820 their whole lives.

01:57:09.440 And they have this fantasy that they're just going to live on a farm and everything's going

01:57:11.980 to be happy and they're going to paint.

01:57:13.320 And that, that's not, I would, I would, I would, I would love to work on a farm to

01:57:18.680 wake, I wake up with the sun every day to wake up at the crack of dawn to get out there

01:57:24.260 and go hang out the chickens for a little bit, collect some eggs, chop some wood, tend

01:57:28.480 to the animals.

01:57:29.820 That day sounds amazing.

01:57:31.620 You're getting physically active.

01:57:33.280 You're feeling, you're getting sweaty.

01:57:34.600 You're feeling good.

01:57:35.380 You're productive.

01:57:36.360 Getting sun.

01:57:37.380 You're getting sun.

01:57:38.580 Talk about, that's the way humans are supposed to be living.

01:57:41.680 100%.

01:57:42.040 Yeah.

01:57:42.620 Good, hard work, roll up your sleeves.

01:57:45.140 Yeah.

01:57:45.400 You know, sometimes I wonder how much of what we're seeing with all the craziness is just

01:57:51.040 part of an empire that's on its way out.

01:57:54.660 You know, like all, all empires, they're cyclical and they fall.

01:57:58.840 I worry about what's going to replace our empire.

01:58:00.600 I don't, I'm not worried.

01:58:02.060 You know, well, that's, I'm glad it's happening.

01:58:03.660 Why aren't you worried?

01:58:04.240 The empire is the wokeness.

01:58:06.180 Oh, oh, right.

01:58:07.280 Oh, I'm, I was thinking of the constitutional empire.

01:58:09.600 Oh, the constitution.

01:58:10.540 No, no, no.

01:58:10.980 No, the, this country was subverted a long time ago and it's institutionally captured.

01:58:16.260 The same people who are woke are the ones waving Ukraine flags.

01:58:20.380 The people who want international war and conflict and invasion in Syria and, and these

01:58:25.120 other countries, they overlap almost one for one with woke people.

01:58:30.120 Not completely, but very much so.

01:58:31.960 Like when you see these, uh, uh, without naming any of them, when I see leftist high profile

01:58:37.720 YouTubers with a million subs, and I mean, leftist, not liberal saying, look, we don't

01:58:41.860 like Joe Biden, but we can't have Trump.

01:58:43.440 I'm like, oh, please your overlap is apparent.

01:58:46.920 I would vote for Dave Smith, but I understand voting for Trump on the foreign policy issue.

01:58:51.820 What I see is empire in decline.

01:58:54.220 And that is wokeness.

01:58:55.320 When the empire crumbles and it looks like it is because they cannot maintain Joe Biden,

01:59:02.340 come on the international, the liberal world order, they called it the CFR constant for

01:59:07.240 relations cause of the liberal world order.

01:59:08.660 And it's, it's breaking apart.

01:59:11.020 And when it does, yeah, we'll have problems with China, but we will be better off greatly.

01:59:17.580 We will have better, stronger borders.

01:59:19.480 We will start rebuilding community.

01:59:21.120 Our constitution will be reinforced.

01:59:23.040 First, wokeness will not be able to exist because anti-meritocratic policies and ideas

01:59:27.840 cannot survive without life support.

01:59:31.620 Without the printing of money, the federal reserve and international conflict, wokeness

01:59:36.260 evaporates overnight and people who want to eat have to work.

01:59:40.420 And it's not going to be the hardest life in the world.

01:59:42.500 It's just going to be, you don't get to write Buzzfeed articles about Brad Pitt's junk

01:59:46.500 and get paid $90,000 a year.

01:59:48.280 That's psychotic.

01:59:49.020 Like, no, you're going to have to go and like plant a garden and learn some basic animal

01:59:54.220 care and you're going to live pretty well.

01:59:57.140 It's remarkable that the left believes that medieval peasants had more time off than they

02:00:01.000 did.

02:00:01.940 Yeah.

02:00:02.360 It's like, that's that whole, but I'm like, not knowing how to run a farm thing.

02:00:05.640 No one's stopping you from going and working on a farm.

02:00:08.600 No one's, you can go out right now.

02:00:10.900 They would love to have you.

02:00:11.740 And many of these farms pay like 14 bucks an hour for labor.

02:00:14.000 They're like, you know, the medieval peasants got a hundred days off and they got sun.

02:00:18.800 And it's like, dude, if you want to go pick berries, I know people who've done it.

02:00:23.400 I knew somebody who worked at Starbucks and then said, this is boring.

02:00:26.700 And then looked online and found farms.

02:00:28.940 And they said, we pay 14 bucks an hour for daily crop harvesting and stuff like that.

02:00:33.160 And they went and started picking fruit.

02:00:34.500 And they're like, it is so cool to go out with a little cart full of apples and stuff,

02:00:38.640 bring it back in and then watch them do the sorting.

02:00:40.640 I make 14 bucks an hour.

02:00:41.800 I'm like, I'm out in the sun all day.

02:00:43.440 I get sweaty.

02:00:43.880 I get exercise.

02:00:44.220 It's so much fun.

02:00:45.380 And I was, they were like, I just needed a side job and I wanted to get out into nature.

02:00:48.360 And I'm like, see that right there.

02:00:49.920 See, I believe you.

02:00:51.500 These people who are in cities and like, I should be a medieval peasant.

02:00:54.680 Like, okay, go work on a farm.

02:00:56.240 Yeah.

02:00:56.560 They don't want to do it.

02:00:57.360 They want to do nothing.

02:00:59.520 Or they want to be famous for something.

02:01:01.960 I love, you know what I love?

02:01:02.780 I love when these people quote themselves on the internet.

02:01:05.800 They'll write something and then put it in quotes and put their name under it.

02:01:08.680 You just quote yourself.

02:01:09.800 Yeah.

02:01:10.040 And it's like, there is a general understanding.

02:01:12.880 And just because somebody of repute said it doesn't mean that it's better said than what

02:01:19.420 you said, but there's a reason why we quote people.

02:01:22.220 And it's not because one day they said something and we decided we're going to attach ourselves

02:01:25.380 to it.

02:01:25.760 It's because there's someone who has contributed greatly and then presented us with an idea

02:01:30.240 and resonated.

02:01:31.580 Right.

02:01:32.020 But I just think this generation, millennials, uh, and a lot of Gen Z, I do think Gen Z has

02:01:39.960 a lot of really, really great components to it.

02:01:41.520 I think Gen Zers are seeing the ills of millennials and I believe millennials are the worst.

02:01:45.160 I think that if you were to look at like, if we're going to do, is this fascinating?

02:01:49.540 If we're going to do like a flat line, it's like the older generation to the younger generation

02:01:52.620 and then a deviation scale.

02:01:55.160 It's like the boomers have a little bit.

02:01:57.640 Gen Xers have a little bit more.

02:01:59.120 Millennials spike really high.

02:02:00.900 And then Gen Z is a little bit higher than Gen X, but way lower than millennials in that

02:02:05.520 whatever happened to millennials, man, broke the brains of a generation that not even Gen

02:02:10.920 Z experiences.

02:02:12.160 I think it's because, um, I mean, millennials, I'm, I'm, I'm in the zennial category.

02:02:16.920 It's the micro generation and this generation, you're probably in it too.

02:02:20.680 It had to go through.

02:02:21.760 Zennial?

02:02:22.060 No, I'm a millennial.

02:02:22.820 Okay.

02:02:23.020 You're a millennial.

02:02:23.560 So, so I think it's 78 to 85.

02:02:26.680 So it put me right at the end.

02:02:28.120 So yeah.

02:02:29.080 So you're just, just out of it.

02:02:30.420 But we had to go through at a very impressionable age.

02:02:32.500 We had to learn, um, we had to go from analog to digital.

02:02:36.440 So, and we had to learn this at like middle school at like right through middle school

02:02:40.240 and high school.

02:02:40.680 And we had to switch how we did life and it didn't make sense.

02:02:43.680 And then we were the first ones on the internet, you know, so we had the ALO.

02:02:46.620 So we had to kind of like, we had connections.

02:02:48.520 We were the last group of people to play outside and bike to our friend's house and knock on

02:02:52.780 the door.

02:02:53.180 That doesn't happen anymore.

02:02:54.420 We're the last generation to do that.

02:02:55.660 Or not knowing where your friends were.

02:02:56.680 Yeah.

02:02:56.940 Not knowing.

02:02:57.700 Like I'm 10.

02:02:58.360 Yeah.

02:02:58.540 I go to my friend's house, knock on the door.

02:03:00.840 You know, is Jason home?

02:03:02.080 Nope.

02:03:02.360 Do you know where he is?

02:03:03.020 I don't know.

02:03:03.360 He went riding his bike.

02:03:04.180 I'm like, I guess I'm not hanging out with him today.

02:03:05.680 Yeah.

02:03:05.940 That was, we're the last generation to have that, you know?

02:03:08.060 So we had to like relearn how to exist.

02:03:11.660 And, um, it, it tapped into a lot of narcissism.

02:03:14.820 I mean, it tapped into, it tapped into, it, uh, coaxed out a lot of mental illness and

02:03:20.060 stuff too.

02:03:20.720 I think that's a component.

02:03:21.560 Maybe it's the trophy participation trophy.

02:03:23.560 Yes.

02:03:24.300 It's awards.

02:03:25.260 And then I think once you get, once you start introducing participation trophies, millennials

02:03:30.000 start developing this narcissism, narcissism and entitlement.

02:03:32.760 Yes.

02:03:33.160 Then with Gen Z, with everyone already getting it, they're meaningless.

02:03:36.500 Mm-hmm.

02:03:37.240 So that's why they want to be famous.

02:03:39.080 So for the, so look at this way, the millennials are raised in a culture where it's like, get

02:03:43.300 a trophy and you're good.

02:03:44.340 And they go, Ooh, I want to win a trophy.

02:03:45.780 Then they say, we're going to give you a trophy no matter what you do.

02:03:47.920 And they're like, Oh, I get a trophy.

02:03:49.840 I should get a trophy.

02:03:51.240 Trophies are good things.

02:03:52.160 Yes.

02:03:52.580 Then Gen Z is raised where everyone has trophies and they're like, who cares?

02:03:55.480 Everyone has one.

02:03:56.460 It's meaningless to me.

02:03:57.600 So that kind of reduces the deviation towards narcissism.

02:04:00.380 It's like a demoralization too.

02:04:02.840 It is.

02:04:03.260 Yeah.

02:04:03.440 There's, there's nothing to work for.

02:04:04.620 The problem is Gen Z, I think more than any generation lacks skills.

02:04:10.260 Yes.

02:04:10.780 And that is not an insult of Gen Z.

02:04:12.640 It's an insult to Gen X and, and to a certain degree, boomers.

02:04:17.500 You know, I love boomers because they've made so much awesome stuff, but man, they did not

02:04:21.320 raise millennials well.

02:04:22.300 No, they didn't.

02:04:23.060 Yeah.

02:04:24.220 That's sad because there were a ton of opportunities for it.

02:04:28.540 Star Trek, the next generation should have been mandatory watching in schools.

02:04:31.160 The problem with schools is that they have detached themselves from the world and they

02:04:36.580 make no sense.

02:04:38.100 Our culture does things, finance, pop culture, physical activity, mental activity.

02:04:44.420 What do schools do?

02:04:45.560 An interrogative sentence ends in a, in a question mark, an imperative sentence.

02:04:50.440 Ends in a period.

02:04:51.600 Yeah.

02:04:51.760 How important was that ever to my life?

02:04:53.860 If I guess I can tell someone those things, history is very important, but I think you

02:05:01.000 get a show like Star Trek, the next generation.

02:05:03.460 It was the biggest show on television at the time.

02:05:05.620 It was syndicated on multiple networks.

02:05:07.720 And I'm not literally saying every day, play an episode, but playing an episode at least

02:05:13.220 once in a school year to say, this is what your parents are watching.

02:05:17.080 This is why they're watching it.

02:05:18.300 So take a look at this show so you can see, and I can, and you can ask me questions about

02:05:22.880 what the show is, how does it work?

02:05:24.460 And then you get a kid saying, why is this show so popular?

02:05:28.240 And the teacher can say, you know, honestly, I don't know.

02:05:30.040 I have an opinion on it.

02:05:31.140 It's dramatic.

02:05:32.080 There's action.

02:05:32.800 There's, there's philosophy.

02:05:35.340 It's so popular and it's on three networks.

02:05:37.000 Do you know what a network is?

02:05:37.840 Right.

02:05:38.020 You've seen it.

02:05:38.460 You've watched ABC, right?

02:05:39.580 Well, this airs on these channels, CBS and, and you know, UPN.

02:05:43.500 It's syndicated, meaning it's explaining common worldly things to kids so they can understand

02:05:49.920 it is what, is what, is what I think we need to introduce.

02:05:53.380 Yeah.

02:05:53.780 The boomers seem like they were a very self-focused generation and just sort of, you know, did,

02:05:59.580 did passive parenting to a, to a T and weren't.

02:06:02.680 I don't want to be like my parents.

02:06:03.920 My parents were strict.

02:06:04.980 Right.

02:06:05.660 Yeah.

02:06:06.080 It made you a good person.

02:06:07.340 Yeah.

02:06:07.940 You, they, the Star Trek, the next generation is, is in my opinion, will always be looking

02:06:13.480 at as one of the greatest philosophical and artistic feats that humanity has created.

02:06:19.200 Just, just anybody who's not watched the show, they're like, that's nerd stuff.

02:06:22.700 Now you're wrong.

02:06:23.440 When, when Picard talks about, I'll, I'll, I'll tell you, there is a, there is a character

02:06:29.220 named Data.

02:06:29.780 For those that don't, for those that know Star Trek, you know exactly what I'm talking

02:06:32.040 about.

02:06:32.220 For those that don't, Data's an android.

02:06:35.300 He's the only of his kind.

02:06:36.760 For the most part, he ends up having a brother and another brother, like they're, they're

02:06:40.000 androids that were created by a scientist.

02:06:41.920 They are sentient life.

02:06:43.500 There's an episode where a tribunal occurs, where they try to determine whether or not

02:06:47.080 he is entitled to civil rights or not as a, as a creature or a machine.

02:06:51.740 Amazing philosophical arguments about the inherent rights of life.

02:06:55.940 Wow.

02:06:56.560 But the best that, well, there's just so much good stuff.

02:06:59.920 One of the best is when Data the android creates a progeny and he says it is the, it

02:07:05.180 is the function of all life to reproduce.

02:07:07.100 And I thought it imperative that I do the same.

02:07:08.940 And so he creates a lull, a daughter, and then Starfleet officers outranking Captain Picard

02:07:17.420 say, you will order Data to hand his child over to the state.

02:07:21.340 They don't say it like that.

02:07:22.420 They say, you need to understand that Data being the only of his kind, we need to be able

02:07:27.520 to preserve and replicate this information and knowledge so that Data and what he is can

02:07:33.580 persist.

02:07:34.860 And so they go and they say, you are property.

02:07:38.160 Actually, I think this is, this might be the same episode, the, the, where they determine

02:07:42.180 whether or not he's, no, no, no, no, they're different.

02:07:43.840 They're different.

02:07:44.540 One episode, they want him, Data to turn himself over so they can research him and study him.

02:07:48.540 And the other, they want to take his daughter from him.

02:07:50.260 And Captain Picard says, I, I will defy those orders.

02:07:54.100 He, he, he says, you know, Data, you are here by order to turn over your daughter.

02:07:58.400 And Data says, okay.

02:07:59.920 And Picard says, belay that order.

02:08:01.840 And they go, excuse me.

02:08:03.220 And then the, the Admiral says, you are risking your career, Picard.

02:08:07.180 And he goes like, so what?

02:08:08.960 I will not allow the state to take this man's child.

02:08:13.120 And I'm just like, that's the kind of moral framework that influences a lot of what I

02:08:18.260 believe, a lot of what people in this country believe.

02:08:20.380 And then the, the best, the best, there are four lights.

02:08:25.100 It's a meme.

02:08:26.200 Most people have heard it.

02:08:27.320 Maybe they don't know where it comes from.

02:08:28.260 Captain Picard is being tortured by an adversarial alien race.

02:08:33.960 And, uh, the goal is his rank brings him in and says, Picard, we're both, you know, ranking

02:08:40.120 men.

02:08:40.600 We are both men of, of repute, blah, blah, blah.

02:08:42.960 And he's like, I can give you a good life.

02:08:45.400 He lies to him and says, Starfleet's being destroyed.

02:08:49.080 Our, our, our, our armada is wiping them out.

02:08:51.380 You've lost the war.

02:08:52.200 Why don't you live comfortably on Cardassia?

02:08:56.700 That's their planet.

02:08:57.360 And he's like, why don't you live comfortably?

02:08:58.980 And he says, all you have to do is tell me how many lights do you see?

02:09:02.480 And Picard, who's been stripped of his clothes and is wearing a torture device, says there

02:09:07.620 are four lights.

02:09:09.340 Shock.

02:09:10.400 Tortured.

02:09:10.980 And he falls on the ground writhing in agony.

02:09:12.340 You're mistaken.

02:09:13.460 There are five lights.

02:09:14.760 Now tell me how many lights do you see?

02:09:16.780 And Picard says, four, he shocks him again.

02:09:20.040 And it created this cultural meme.

02:09:22.060 There are four lights.

02:09:22.980 The refusal to deny reality.

02:09:25.520 Today, what do we have?

02:09:26.980 What is two plus two equal?

02:09:28.900 Exactly.

02:09:29.520 Four or five.

02:09:30.380 How remarkable.

02:09:31.680 That replicated in the real world.

02:09:33.160 They would demand of you.

02:09:34.500 You say two plus two is five.

02:09:36.440 No, it's four.

02:09:38.140 And they ask you again.

02:09:39.980 You're mistaken.

02:09:41.240 You don't want to lose your job, do you?

02:09:43.100 You don't want your children taken from you, do you?

02:09:46.360 So, for me to sit here and proudly talk about Star Trek The Next Generation.

02:09:51.880 But this is why.

02:09:53.060 Because these questions of morality were given through a pop culture TV show that inspired

02:10:00.660 so many people that people who were inspired conveyed in these ideas.

02:10:05.800 And if you're not a big fan of like the sci-fi elements, what you really have in this show

02:10:10.160 is naval tradition, the military ranks, naval exploration.

02:10:14.420 You could do the whole show on Earth with a seafaring vessel during World War II, replace

02:10:25.780 the alien race with a foreign nationality torturing someone, doing the exact same things.

02:10:31.420 The ideas are brilliant.

02:10:34.020 And conveying that morality is so important in my opinion.

02:10:35.960 So, when I look at something like that, I grew up on that.

02:10:40.380 I was inspired by that.

02:10:41.380 I believe in that.

02:10:42.600 I also recognize children today who are growing up on neo-Marxist garbage, when they're my age,

02:10:48.060 they're going to say, I remember the Transformers episode when Starscream said he was non-binary

02:10:52.640 and I felt so much in my heart.

02:10:54.360 But they're going to say that.

02:10:56.100 We need them to be exposed to the ideas of classical liberalism.

02:11:00.220 And I don't mean American-style colloquial liberalism.

02:11:03.200 I mean the Founding Fathers' views of what it means to be a good citizen, to be responsible,

02:11:08.200 but to have your rights protected.

02:11:09.640 Yeah.

02:11:09.920 So, this sort of comes back to Brave Books a little bit.

02:11:12.900 Our vision for Brave Books is when kids sit three years old, their parents or grandparents,

02:11:18.860 subscribe them to our little Freedom Island Book Club.

02:11:21.460 And they get a new book every single month, a picture book, for about four or five years,

02:11:25.200 and it switches over to two-chapter books.

02:11:26.880 And basically, the topics that we hit, the stories, they grow with the kids.

02:11:32.780 But they grow up in our world.

02:11:34.500 Right.

02:11:34.600 And that world, like our whole brand, our whole business is built on trust with our customers

02:11:39.620 that we're not going to go woke.

02:11:41.560 And they're going to grow up in a safe place for their imaginations to run wild because they need that.

02:11:45.920 It's so helpful.

02:11:46.980 It obviously made an impact on you.

02:11:49.020 And right now, they don't have that.

02:11:50.880 All the brands are corrupted.

02:11:53.040 And they need those heroes, those worlds of stories that resonate with them.

02:11:58.100 Because it's like you want to talk to your kid about whatever it is, gender identity, all that.

02:12:08.220 We're used to talking to adults.

02:12:09.580 And we talk to adults through conceptual-type language.

02:12:12.800 Memes.

02:12:13.500 Yeah.

02:12:13.820 Yeah.

02:12:14.180 But the way to reach a kid is to tell a story.

02:12:19.700 And then that gives you the framework to then have a conversation.

02:12:23.060 And so, like, with our books, we design them to where we have a story.

02:12:26.800 It's like two-thirds of it.

02:12:27.880 And in the back, we have these games and discussion questions.

02:12:30.020 So that the story serves as the framework to then have a conversation between you and your kids.

02:12:35.360 And our hope is that they'll bring families together, start conversations, so that the parent becomes the primary resource that kids look to when they're confronted with whatever.

02:12:47.820 You know what's really great about the style of how you do this?

02:12:51.400 You said they get a book once a month?

02:12:53.520 Yeah.

02:12:54.380 Do you remember being a kid and how exciting it was to get mail?

02:12:57.760 Oh, they freak out.

02:12:58.400 Oh, yeah.

02:12:58.940 Yeah.

02:12:59.600 Remember the – I don't know if you guys did this.

02:13:01.020 They get the Scholastic order form.

02:13:02.840 And we'd look through it.

02:13:03.860 And then you write down how many books you want on that little strip in the back.

02:13:08.220 And then rip it out and give it to the teacher.

02:13:10.060 Mom will give you $10 and the book comes.

02:13:11.920 And you're like, it's book day.

02:13:12.900 I did.

02:13:13.520 I had a – I was a babysitter's club.

02:13:16.880 And I got a new book, like a package, every single month.

02:13:20.780 And I looked forward to it.

02:13:22.300 And that got me really invested.

02:13:23.920 I was so excited to read the next book.

02:13:25.900 And so this is – that model is brilliant to bring – to get kids excited about that in that format.

02:13:32.060 And I was going to say about what you said about Star Trek.

02:13:34.360 The writers studied authoritarian regimes.

02:13:37.960 Yeah.

02:13:38.360 Absolutely.

02:13:38.720 And they wrote about them in a way that was entertaining.

02:13:43.200 Deep Space Nine.

02:13:44.760 This era of Star Trek, no joke.

02:13:47.820 There's an episode of Deep Space Nine called In the Pale Moonlight.

02:13:51.340 At this point, Next Generation was 89 until I think 97 or something like that.

02:13:56.560 Maybe I'm getting the years wrong.

02:13:57.520 Maybe it was 87 or something.

02:13:58.740 I don't know.

02:14:00.180 They had Voyager.

02:14:01.500 They had Deep Space Nine.

02:14:02.940 In this era of Star Trek, you had this continuous story that was masterfully done.

02:14:10.080 Deep Space Nine is about a space station.

02:14:12.420 A wormhole opens that connects two quadrants of the galaxy, which introduces new alien races of massive power.

02:14:19.260 A war breaks out called the Dominion War, where they're called changelings.

02:14:24.140 They're creatures that have moderate shape-shifting abilities, begin infiltrating.

02:14:26.760 And then when the war breaks out, the Federation is losing.

02:14:30.620 In the Star Trek universe, the next generation, you have—let's go back in time.

02:14:37.580 In the original series, Klingons are the bad guys.

02:14:40.420 When they create the next generation, they say, let's show that there's been development.

02:14:43.980 And they now show that a Klingon actually works on a Federation ship as an officer.

02:14:47.840 And this was to show that progress had occurred.

02:14:51.400 They wrote an amazing backstory as to how this happened.

02:14:53.760 It's called the Kittimer Accords.

02:14:55.500 What happened was Romulans, another bad guy from the original series, began attacking a colony outpost of Klingons, women and children, because they're merciless.

02:15:05.200 And the Enterprise got the distress signal and charged full speed to the attack, sacrificing itself to save the women and children of the Klingons.

02:15:18.140 The Klingons, being an honor-based society, said we did not realize how honorable the Federation was.

02:15:26.240 And this created an alliance.

02:15:27.720 Then, in Deep Space Nine, I'm giving you all this backstory, but trust me, I just—this stuff is so profound and good morals.

02:15:36.520 And in the Dominion War, the Romulans absolutely will not join the Federation and the Klingons as they're being crushed by the Dominion.

02:15:44.680 So, the commander of the space station organizes a false flag attack, executing, assassinating a Romulan senator to frame the Dominion to force them to enter the war on the side of the Federation.

02:16:01.880 You could replace all of this stuff with American tropes throughout American history, and the message is there.

02:16:08.100 So, I think there's some people might be like, oh, that's sci-fi stuff.

02:16:10.660 I'm not into that.

02:16:11.280 Like, make it about World War II, whatever.

02:16:13.120 The point is the moral message behind it.

02:16:15.780 And then you have this monologue from Sisko, the commander, explaining the deep moral questions of killing a senator to trick an enemy nation into joining your side in a war.

02:16:28.300 And it worked.

02:16:29.820 And then they begin winning.

02:16:31.940 Crazy, awesome storytelling.

02:16:33.880 We don't have that anymore, you know?

02:16:36.020 But we are running late, so I guess my last question for you—otherwise, I'll just ramble about Star Trek and how much I love it.

02:16:41.720 I don't mind the newer stuff that's coming.

02:16:43.320 I don't think it's okay.

02:16:43.880 But you mentioned as kids get older, they get two-chapter books.

02:16:47.300 I'm wondering, what about young adult?

02:16:49.100 What about, you know, kids who are now looking for those bigger stories that might contain the moral lessons that I've been talking about?

02:16:56.360 Yeah, it's coming.

02:16:57.920 So, yeah, the vision is chapter books will probably start coming out in the next 12 to 18 months.

02:17:06.720 But, yeah, that's the vision.

02:17:07.940 So when they're in that three- to seven-, eight-year-old range, they're getting picture books, then chapter books, and then young adult novels, all that stuff.

02:17:16.200 All the while, we're giving animated television shows, live-action television shows.

02:17:21.960 Cool.

02:17:22.300 And they just grow up with this world.

02:17:23.640 And so when you're going off on your Star Trek rant, I was sort of—I was listening to you, but I was sort of envisioning a kid 20 years from now giving that same rant but talking about freedom on island.

02:17:34.080 Yes.

02:17:34.680 So I'm—what I want J.K. Rowling to do, especially now that she's experiencing it, what did she do?

02:17:41.440 Harry Potter, what's it about?

02:17:42.780 It's about Hitler.

02:17:44.080 Anybody who's read Harry Potter knows that he's talking about Hitler.

02:17:45.920 He's a magic supremacist with large followers.

02:17:49.520 They take over the government, blah, blah, blah.

02:17:52.280 And what did she write for the prequels?

02:17:56.000 Magic Hitler.

02:17:58.060 Seriously, Grindelwald is once again a magic supremacist who's doing the exact same things.

02:18:03.180 She needs to write a story in the Harry Potter universe about wizards and witches who think it is wrong to have magic because it creates class oppression between those with magic and muggles.

02:18:14.940 Those with magic and those without.

02:18:17.180 And then you end up with a Stalinist.

02:18:19.080 So she can tell the moral lesson of why it's wrong to strip people of their rights and privileges and things like that.

02:18:25.160 Have you ever seen the crossover of Harry Potter and Star Wars?

02:18:30.140 How the parallels in that?

02:18:32.540 Well, it's, you know, the guy who's got a crush on the girl and he's his scruffy friend.

02:18:39.540 She ends up with the scruffy friend and they don't have lightsabers.

02:18:42.880 They have wands and there's just all these, you know, then there's Vader as opposed to Voldemort.

02:18:47.780 So, yeah, there's all these parallels.

02:18:48.980 Oh, yeah.

02:18:49.540 Well, anyway, we went a little bit over, I think.

02:18:51.400 But thanks for hanging out, man.

02:18:52.180 This has been a blast.

02:18:52.960 So fun.

02:18:53.600 Do you want to shout out your links and stuff?

02:18:55.800 Bravebooks.com.

02:18:56.820 Go Bravebooks.com.

02:18:57.780 Subscribe.

02:18:58.920 Kids, nieces, nephews, grandkids.

02:19:03.580 Yeah, you'll get some great books and it'll help bring the family together.

02:19:07.920 Get off screens.

02:19:09.100 Read a story.

02:19:10.060 Have some conversations that are meaningful.

02:19:12.240 It'll be a blessing.

02:19:13.100 Right on.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - June 02, 2023

The Culture War #14 - Trent Talbot, Josie TRHL, Fighting Woke indoctrination in Schools

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